COMING UP NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON: IT'S THE JOURNALISTS ROUNDTABLE.

WE'LL LOOK AT THE WEEK'S TOP STORIES, INCLUDING THE INCREASINGLY CONTENTIOUS RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE GOVERNOR AND THE STATE LEGISLATURE.

THE JOURNALISTS' ROUNDTABLE, NEXT, ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.

I'M TED SIMONS.

IT'S FRIDAY AND THAT MEANS IT'S TIME FOR THE JOURNALISTS' ROUNDTABLE.

JOINING US TONIGHT FOR A LOOK AT THE WEEK'S TOP STORIES: LAURIE ROBERTS OF THE ARIZONA REPUBLIC AND A?

CENTRAL.COM.

HOWIE FISCHER OF CAPITOL MEDIA SERVICES.

THIS IS A BOMBSHELL.

THIS IDEA THAT THE FORMER ATTORNEY GENERAL INVESTIGATED ALL OF THESE CLAIMS OF ELECTION FRAUD AND MALL FEE SENSE.

THE BIG INVESTIGATION AND SAT ON IT.

JUST FORGET TO TELL US ABOUT IT.

THIS FORMER ATTORNEY GENERAL MARK BRNOVICH IN THE LAST YEAR OF OFFICE WHEN YOU KNOW HE WAS REASON HER TO SENATE DES ITALY TRYING TO RISE OUT OF A CROWDED REPUBLICAN PRIMARY AND AND NOT MAKE THE TRUMP PEOPLE TOO MAD AT HIM.

PE HAD BEEN INVOLVED IN A YEARLONG INVESTIGATION OF ALL THE ELECTION CLAIMS THAT CAME IN.

HE CAME OUT IN APRIL WELL THIS REPORT THAT SORT OF IN SEN U WAITED A IN SAID THAT THE 2020 ELECTION WAS MESSED UP AND EVEN FOLLOWED UP ON VARIOUS RIGHT WINGED BROADCAST INCLUDING STEVE BANNON AND SAID THAT.

WHAT WE DIDN'T KNOW WAS THAT A MONTH BEFORE HIS OWN INVESTIGATORS HAD TOLD HIM PURCHASE GIVEN HIM INTROREPORT IN WHICH THEY HAD FOUND NOTHING.

NO EVIDENCE TO BACK UP ANY OF IT.

FOR FORWARD THEN HE LOSES THE PRIMARY THE NEXT MONTH THE FINAL REPORT OR WHAT I GUESS, AMOUNTS TO THE FINAL REPORT COMES OUT IN WHICH THEY FIND THE ELECTION WAS JUST FINE AND FOUND NO EVIDENCE OF ANYTHING.

ALL THE LEGISLATURES WERE LOUDLY SCREAMING WON A PROVIDE ANY EVIDENCE IN PRIVATE.

THERE WAS NO THERE THERE.

>> THAT'S THE POINT.

AFTER HE LOST THE PRIMARY CAME IN THIRD IN THE REPUBLICAN SENATE PRIME PRIME A ARE RY SEPTEMBER REPORT COMES CAN OUT.

THAT WAS HE PROBLEM.

IT DIDN'T COME OUT.

>> , UNTIL CHRIS CAME IN AND LOOKED AROUND AND SAID, US WHAT LEFT OVER STUFF HERE.

S THAT THE Z KEY.

AT THE POINT LOST THE PRIMARY.

I AM SURE AT SOME PONT YOU HAD A PARTY AND SAY, OK. WE FINISHED THE INVESTIGATION.

WAS REQUIRED TO DO EVERYTHING TO GROUND T. I WAS REQUIRED TO CHASE DOWN ALL OF THESE.

I WAS REQUIRED TO CHASE DOWN MARK FINNSTROM'S CLAIM OF A COUPLE IN DREAD THOUSAND FAKE BALLOTS THEN ASKED UNDER THE ABLES OF THE INVESTIGATOR IN LYING TO POLICE.

DON'T KNOW NOTHING.

BUT, THAT IS WHEN HE SHOULD HAVE RELEASED.

THE CRIME IF YOU WILL.

I IS NO AT CRIME.

MAYBE IT IS.

WAS HAGUE THIS REPORT AND BEING ABLE TOLL RELEASE IT AHEAD OF THE 2022 ELECTION AND WHEN IT COULD HAVE CALM THINGS DOWN AND PUT A COCK IN KARI LAKE.

>> IT WOULD HAVE SAVED A LOT OF GRIEF, A LOT OF DEATH THREATS, A LOT OF IN THES THAT HAPPENED TO ELECTION OFFICIALS AND MARICOPA COUNTY OFFICIALS I PANE, GOODNESS GRACIOUS YOU GOT THIS RE.

RELEASE.

A LOT OF THE CLAIMS COMING THE SO-CALLED AUDITS AND PEOPLE LIKE TO CALL IT.

THE SENATE INITIATED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO THEN CLAIMS THE LAW K MA HE IS MADE AND GENERATED AS YOU MENTIONED THREAT AND DEATH THREAT TOWARD ELECTION OFFICIAL WORKERS ELECTED OFFICIALS SOMETIMES.

AND, AND YOU HAD CANDIDATES A LOT OF THE STATEWIDE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES RUNNING ON THE COMPLETELY BOGUS CLAIMS CAN AT THE AG'S OFFICE KNEW AND HAD NO MERIT AND INVESTIGATED AND FOUND NO EVIDENCE THE SO-CALLED OUGHTEDDER TOES COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING TO BACK THIS UP THE BUT THE WORST PART HERES WAS THE IN INTERIM REPORT THAT MARK MARK BRNOVICH PUT OUT LAST YEAR EN APRIL ALL OF THESE END SEN WAS AND DEFECTIVE PROEAD DOORS FORKING DOORS THAT THE COUNTY WAS NOT COOPERATING AND TURNING OVER PUBLIC RECORDS.

WE, THE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE RELEASED WE SEE THAT HIS OWN INVESTIGATORS SAID THE LEAST TO NOT VALID CLAIMS LIKE THIS IS NOT RU.

THEN, FOR INTERIM REPORT THERE IS A RECENT PROSECUTORS DON'T COME PENT ON THE INVESTIGATION.

RIGHT.

RIGHT.

NOT ONLY BROKE THAT RULE, LIKE, I COULDN'T FIND ANY EVIDENCE OF EVER DIDDING THIS FOR DECADES BUT HE SAID THINGS AND HIS OWN INVESTIGATORS SAID WERE FALSE.

WHAT YOU SAW THIS WEEK WAS EVIDENCE OF A STATEWIDE OFFICIAL WHO PUT HIS OWN SELF INTEREST ABOVE THE INTEREST OF THE STATE BY KEEL!

KEEPING THIS INFORMATION SILENT AS YOU SAY WITH DEATH THREATS GOING ON AND ALL SORT OF QUESTIONS THEN WHEN YOU GO BACK TO WHAT THE AUDIT WAS POSED TO DO AND THE SOONER NINJAS SUPPOSED TO RESTORE CONFIDENCE OUR ELECTIONS THEN THEY LET IT SIT OWN THERE AND LET THIS REPORT WHICH WOULD HAVE EXONERATED ALL OF THESE OFFICIALS SIT OUT THERE AND BECAUSE HE WANTED TO SHOW AND TOO TOY WITHIN THE SENATE PRIMARY.

WE ARE ALL ASSUMING THAT EVEN IF THE REPORT HAD COME OUT THAT ANYONE WOULD BELIEVE ANYTHING.

THEN THE CYBER NINJAS REPORT.

THEY WENT AND COUNTED EVERY BALL LET AND SPENT MONTHS AT THE COL LEALLY SEE YEM.

HE ACTUALLY WON BUY A LARGER MARGIN THEN CAME BACK AND SAID, OH, BUT THIS.

OH BUT THAT.

INTHEN IT MAY NOT HAVE MADE ANY DIFFERENCE ANYWAY NO MATTER WHAT.

>> BUT YOU, YOU ARE THE ATTORNEY.

YOU ARE THE CHIEF LAW ENFORCEMENT FER OF THE STATE.

YOU SPENT GOD KNOWS HOW MANY THOUSANDS OF MAN HOURS GOING OVER THIS AND LOOKING AT EVERYTHING TO SKEW VOTES.

I THOUGHTETTE WAS.

>> HE SAID ITALIAN.

KOREAN BALLOTS.

AND BAM BUT A AND ALL OF OF THIS STUFF WAS INVENTED AND SO THEY GET AWAY WITH THIS STUFF BECAUSE THERE IS NO ONE HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR ANYONE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE STATE BAR CAN DO SOMETHING AND I DON'T KNOW.

DO THE LARS HAVE REQUIREMENTS I HAVE NO IDEA?

WELL, THEY DO.

BECAUSE REMEMBER, THAT KATIE HOBBS FINE FILED THINGS COMPLAINT AGAINST HIM FOR PLAYING BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET INVESTIGATING WHILE THEY PREREPRESENTING IT, SO YEAH, AND ETHICAL TO WITHHOLD SOMETHING THAT MAYBE YOU DON'T KNOW.

S THAT THE HARDER ONE.

MEAN I THINK ARE ISSUES THERE AND CIVIL LIT IS GOING AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS AS WE TALK ABOUT YOU WHAT HAPPENED IN THE SENATE THIS PAST WEEK, TOO.

I THINK, BE THIS THERE ARE PEOPLE WHOLE SAY ANYTHING AND KNOWING THAT NO ONE WILL HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE.

WELL, MARICOPA COUNTY THE SUPERVISORS THEY ASKED LAST YEAR DURING THE ELECTION TO RELEASE THE FINDINGS AND THEY KNEW WAS GOING TO EXPECT ON RATE THEM AND NOTHING TO ANY OF THESE WILD AND OFTENTIMES JUST COME LOTLY LUDICROUS ALLEGATIONS BRNOVICH WOULD NOT RELEASE IT AND NONE OF IT CAME OUT UNTIL AFTER HE LEFT OFFICE TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE GREATEST HITS OF THESE CLAIMS FROM THE AUDITS FOU HE.

THEY SAID, THAT THE BALLOT TABULATION MACHINES WERE CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET WHICH THEY FOUND TO BE FALSE AND LOTS OF DEAD PEOPLE VOTED OR INELIGIBLE VOTERS OR PEOPLE VOTED IS AND FOUND THAT TO BE AD'S OFFICE FOUND THAT TO BE COMPLETELY WITHOUT MERIT AND PROBABLY FOR GITGETS.

DUPLICATE AND PROBLEMS WITH SELLING TOOS ALL OF THESE THINGS TO THREATING RECORD OR SOMETHING.

I KNOW THE PRESIDENT WHO ORDERED THOUGHTED IT DID STILL FEX IT AS ON AND SAID THAT NONE OF OF THIS HAD ANY MINUTE.

>> HERE IS REALLY IMPORTANT POINT NO MATTER WHAT YOU THOUGHT OF CHRIS AND VOTED FOR HER OR NOT IF ATTORNEY GENERAL AND MY GUESS IS WE WOULDN'T HAVE SEEN THAT REPORT.

OH WE WERE WAITING.

LAST PINT ON THIS.

THAT IS ONE OF THE WILDEST WILDLY MOST UNSUCCESSFUL AND DAMAGING CAREER IN REPUTATION CAMPAIGN YOU CAN REMEMBER?

I THINK HE HE IS DONE.

IT IS SAD.

ITS NOT ALL OF HIS DOINGS BECAUSE IF YOU, IF YOU GO WAY BACK EVER BEFORE AL THE CRAZY BEGAN, PROBABLY YOU HAD THE BEST CHANCE OF DEFEATING MARK KELLY.

HE HAD BEEN STATEWIDE NAME I.D.

HE WAS A SITTING STATE OFFICIAL A. NOLL ONE KNEW WHO THEY WERE.

THE WHOLE TRUMP THING YOU HAVE TO MARCH IN LOCKSTEP WITH TRUMP AND WHAT THEY DID AND HELPED THEM ALONG WITH IT.

BY TRYING TO STRADDLE THE FENCE AND APIECE EN.

S THAT THE THING HE DIDN'T STRAT IL.

REMEMBER HE WAS THE FIRST SEW LECKED STIT OFFICIAL WHO SAID IT LOOKS LIKE JOE BIDEN WITHIN AND LOOK THESE PEOPLE ARE CRAZY THEN EVENTUALLY THEN ALL OF THE SUDDEN, AS TRUMP STARTED SENDING OUT TWEETS ABOUT BRNOVICH AND HE GOT SCARED.

THE OTHER PART OF THE PROBLEM IS WHY IT WAS RUN, HE DOESN'T LAKE RAISING MONEY.

THAT WAS THE OTHER THING THAT KILLED HIS CAMPAIGN.

YEAH.

WELL, YEAH.

THAT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS HOW DO YOU LOOK TO LAY.

I MEAN, IT THINK THE FUTURE HIT CALL PROSPECTS ARE NONEXISTENT AT POINT.

LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AT THE LEGISLATURE AND JEREMY DAYLONG HEARINGS REGARDING THIS IS A JOINT HEARING ELECTIONS COMMITTEE HEARING ON WHAT?

>> CONSPIRACY THEORIES STUFF THAT MAKE THE CYBER NINJA AUDIT CREDIBLE.

I DIDN'T WATCH.

DON'T THINK MOST PEOPLE DID.

I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU WOULD AT THIS POINT.

THERE IS NO CREDIBILITY ANY ALLEGATIONS.

THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT.

THEY ARE FOCUSED ON INVITING PEOPLE AND THE WILD CLAIMS THE WITHIN CLAIM I REALLY WAS FAMILIAR WITH THAT I HEARD THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE MENTIONED THEY ACCUSED JUDGES OF TAKING BRIBE INTERESTS THE CARTEL OR SOMETHING.

THEY MADE FLOOR ROW ATTEMPTS TO PACK THIS UP.

LIKE, YOU OH, PUBLIC IN A HEARING YOU HAVE TO WONDER I MEAN EVERYONE CAN PACK UP THEIR OWN MINDS OF HOW CREDIBLE HES AND ALLOW SOMEONE TO STAND UP TOP SAY THAT BUT I THINK I MEANMENTS THAT THE REST OF WHAT THE HEARING WAS.

HOW CAN YOU LET PEOPLE SAY THAT?

>> WELL, YOU HAD A WOMAN, I THINK INSURANCE AGENT IN SCOTTSDALE AND IDENTIFIED HERSELF AS UP S.?

I WON'T SAY.

I CAN'T I AND GIN THEY ARE HAPPY NOW.

SHE BASICALLY GETS UP AND ACCUSES LEGISLATURE AND KATIE HOBBS BY MAIN AND THE MAYOR BY NAME.

THREE THREE OF THE FIVE COUNTY SUPERVISORS DIDN'T NAME THEM BUT IN THE REPORT SHE DOES.

A WHOLE HOST OF OTHER PEOPLE.

SHE ACCUSE THEM OF ACCEPTING BRIBES NOW IF YOU HAVE EVIDENCE TO BACK THAT UP.

THAT SOUNDS LIKE DEFAMATION TO ME.

I DON'T UNDERSTANDS HOW IS THAT THE SENATE COULD ALLOW I MEAN INVITED THIS WOMAN TO TESTIFY AND PRESOOM BLY THEY KNEW WHAT HER PRESENTATION WAS ABOUT AND YEAH THEY ALLOWED THIS TO GO OUT AND DIDN'T STOP HER.

AT THEN, IN PACK.

CAN CHAIRWOMAN APPLAUDED HER AND SAID SHE IS BRAVE.

>> SOUNDS LIKE THEATER.

SOUNDS LIKE THEATER.

>> IT IS.

>> BISBALLE BEFORE THE REAL SEASON BEGINS.

IS THEATER.

LIKE VILLAGES ALL FAKE.

US ALL FACADES THAT THE FACT.

THEN THE PROBLEM THAT THE LEADERSHIP HAS IS THEY ONLY HAVE ONE VOTE EDGE IN THE HOUSE AND ONE VET'S EDGE IN THE SENATE A AND SO, SO WHEN PEOPLE LIKE LIZ HARRIS SAY NEED THIS HEARING GO OUT AND GO HOLD YOUR HEARING THEN DO WHAT YOU WANT.

IT HASES NO LEGAL FORCE AND EFFECT AND LET THEM DO IT.

THEY WILL REVIEW THOSE TEACHES THEN BENS THE SPEAKER EVEN THOUGH HE HAS GOT TO HAMMING ON TOP LIZ HARRIS I WILL PUT A FORK IN THE AND NOT GOING TO LET THIS OCCUR.

LOOK.

I UNDERSTANDS FACTS FACTS ARE DIFFERENT THANS BUT YOU ARE BRINGING TO THE ENTIRE LG SLA TUR AMONG THE PEOPLE WHO THOUGHT THAT HILLARY CLINTON WAS SELLING BABIES OUT OF A PIZZA PLACE IN WASHINGTON, D.C.

IF THEY WERE SMART THE LEADERSHIP AND THERE'S THE FIRST.

IF THEY WERE SMART.

>> I DON'T KNOW.

IF THEY WERE SMA READY TO LIMIT HERE THEY WOULD YANK THESE PEOPLE'S COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN SHIPS A WAY THEM AND REPOPULATE WITH SAME PEOPLE AND ISSUE APOLOGY AND UNLESS THERE IS EVIDENCE THAT THE CARTEL IS RISING EVERYBODY.

>> HOLD ON A SECOND.

DIDN'T SOMEONE SUGGEST THE SPEAKER WAS BRIBED WITH LAWNERRED MONEY.

HOW FAR DO YOU GO?

HOW?

THERE IS REALLY NO LIMIT IN HOW FAR THE FOLKS WILL GO.

WE HAVE LEARNED ALMOST OVER TWO AND A HALF VERY LODGE YEARS.

THAT THESE CLAIMS REALITY IS YOU KNOW, CONFINEMENT.

LIKE, THINGS GET INVENTED OUT OF THIN AIR AND THAT YOU SPEND ALL THE TIME DEBUNKING IT AND NOBODY CARED THEY ARE GOING TO BELIEVE IT.

BUT THEY KEEP GETTING THE PLATFORMS ON YOU KNOW PLACES LIKE THIS AND CERTAIN MEDIA OUTLETS AND PIT NEVER ENDS AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS INVITE SOMETHING ABOUT BRAB RY AND HUMAN TRAFFIC AND GOD KNOW WHATS WHAT ELSE.

IT IS GOING TO BE OUT THERE.

ALL THE FUND-RAISING LETTERS.

IT IS GIVING THEM YET ANOTHER AVENUE AFTER THE BRNOVICH REPORT SHUT DONE THE OTHER AVENUES NOW THE NEW AVENUE OF AL THE PEOPLE IN STATE GOVERNMENT AT EVERY LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT TAKING BRIBES YOU DON'T HAVE PROOF OF THAT AND SHOULD BE TAKEN TO COURTMENT WE ARE DO IN THE POLITICAL PROBLEM.

OR REASONABLY REMEMBER, LIZ HARRIS HELD UP THE BUDGET SHE SAID YOU HAVE OVERTURNED THE 2022 ELECTION.

THEN VOTE FOR IT INP THEN WE SAW WHAT THE GOT.

SHE GOT AT FULL DAY'S WORTH OF HEARING NOT THE HEARINGS THIS WEEK.

A FULL DAY ON EVERY ONE OF THE STRANGE ELECTION BILLS.

AND NEEDS THAT 31st VOTE.

BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT OTHERWISE, HE CAN'T, HE CAN'T GOVERN SO THE QUESTIONS, DOES HE HAVE THE IF YOU WILL TO GO AHEAD AND TELL LIZ HARRIS, MO, I HAVE GIVEN YOU THE CHANCE, I HAVE GIVEN YOU ENOUGH LEASH YOU HUNG YOURSELF WITH IT P. WHAT IS NOT TURNS.

WINDY ROGER AND REPRESENTATIVE BACKLYNN PARKER CHAIR MAN OF THIS HOUSING.

THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE.

AND AT LEAST IF SOMEBODY GUESS OFF THE RAIL, TIME OUT.

TIME OUT.

WE WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR.

WE DON'T HAVE PROOF OF THIS.

YOU KNOW?

MAYBE WE'LL LOOK INTHIS OR WITH AEVER AND NOT CONTINUE DOWN THIS AVENUE.

NONE OF THAT HAPPENED IN AND WHOLE COMMITTEE SAT THERE.

>> REMEMBER THE PART OF THE REASON IT HAPPENEDS THE DEMOCRATS SAID YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING WE'LL NOT GO THEY WERE NOT GOING TO GO THERE AND ASK.

>> LAST POINT ON.

IT IS SOMETHING LIKING THIS GOING TO HP OPINION AGAIN?

IS IT JUST THE START OF THESE HEARINGS?

>> WHO KNOWS I WOULD HAVE GUESSED IT WOULD HAPPEN ONE TIME.

IT WILL BE A LONG SESSION.

,.

>> THE GOVERNOR IS CONCRETE MATTERS HER AND ANOTHER ROW TOW THE RENTAL TAX BILL.

YEAH.

BEFORE THE GOVERNOR SIGNED A SINGLE BILL BEFORE TAKING OFFICE THIS WOULD PROHIBIT THE STATE DOES NOT TAX RENT BUT SOME CITIES DO AND PROIN ABOUT IT THEM FROM DOING SO AND SOMETHING THAT LEGISLATURE FAST TRACKED TO GET TO TO KATE TO KATIE HOB'S DESK AND CAREY LOOK'S CAMPAIGN PLATFORM LAST YEAR.

AND GOVERNOR VETOED.

AND THEY DON'T LIKE ANYTHING THE STATE DOES TO COST THEM TAX REF NU IN THE OTHER ARGUES THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT THESE SAVINGS WILL BE PASSED TON THE ACTUAL RENNERS WIPRO PE NENS SAY IT IS FALSE AND LOOK AT LINE ITEM ON THERE AND HOBBS SAYS THERE IS NO GUARANTEE OF THAT AND SOMETHING YOU WOULD THINK WE SPEAK TO DEMOCRATIC SENSITIVITY AND SOMETHING THAT AFFECTS YOU KNOW A LOT OF LOWER INCOME FOLK AND DON'T OWN THEIR HOME THEN YOU CANNOT TAX BUT YOU CAN TAX RENT IN THE AND UNFAIR SYSTEM.

WELL AGAIN THE GOVERNOR CALLS IT A TAX CUT BILL FOR LAND OWNERS IN.

WELL SHE DOES SAY THAT AM?

I WENT AND READ THE BILL AND THE BILL DOES SAY THAT LANDLORDS MUST REDUCE THE RENT ON THEIR TENANT POOHS THE AMOUNT OF THAT SALES TAX SO I AM NOT SURE AND I GUESS SHE'S SAYING SHE THINK THEY WOULD LOSE SO WHAT THAT HAPPENS AL THE TIME I DON'T KNOW THIS IS GOING TO BE THAT POPULAR OF A DECISION CERTAINLY THE DEMOCRATS WHO ARE SUSTAINING BEHIND HER ARE HAPPY ABOUT IT BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS THE DEMOCRATS WHO LOOKED OUT AND THE REPUBLICANS WHO WERE SUPPOSED TO DO THE TAX CUT AND THIS SEEM TO BE REPUBLICANS COMING TO RESCUE OF A LITTLE GUY.

ARE RIGHT.

BY THE END OF THISAR YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO REDUCING BY THE AMOUNT OF THE TAX.

THE SENATOR SAYS THAT IS FINE.

HERE IS EVEN ASULLING THAT IS ENFORCEABLE.

LANDLORD KNOWS PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO PAY 1 THE MACHINE AND TAKE 3% OFF OF THAT AND NOT TRY TO DO THE MATH IN MY HEAD WHICH IS WHY I WENT TO JOURNALISM AND THEY KNOW SOMEBODY IS WILLING TO PAY 1,000 A MNT WITHOUT THE TAX AND SOMEHOW IT IS VERY TEMPORARY RELIEF THAT IS THE NATURE OF THE FREE MARKET BUT YOU KNOW, LOOK.

WHO DO YOU TAX AND PUT THROUGH A BILL TO CUT BY 50% AND BECAUSE THIS WHOLE IDEA IT IS TRICK ARE DOWN AND IT WILL UP WITH THE HANDS OF THE PEOPLE WHO WORKING FOR WALMART.

SAME SORT OF THING.

PUSHBACK FROM RURAL TOWNS THAT NEED THAT TO COME TO ANY DINED OF KIND OF ATTACK TO COOP THE LIGHT ON.

THE FACT IS THEY MADE DECISION IN WHO THEY WANT TO TAX.

THEY COULD RAISE THE OVERALL SALES TAX AND WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE STATE AND THE STATE GOT RID OF IT.

AND NEVER HAD A RENTAL TAX THE SAME SORT OF THING SO BECOMES ISSUE OF WHAT DO YOU WANT TAXEDED?

SOME CITIES IN THE STATE HAVE A PROPERTY TAX.

YOU WANT A SALES TAX HOW HIGH DO YOU WANT IT.

1 PERCENT OR 2% OR 3 PERCENT.

SO QUESTION WHO DO YOU TAX.

FOR SOME CITIES IT EASIER TO TAX THE RENTERS BECAUSE THEY DON'T SEETTE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

MOSTS ARE NOT GOING UNGOER STAN THE SUBTLESTIES OF THAT AND ALL THEY ARE GOING TO SIGHS DEMOCRAT AND THE GOVERNOR VUOTTOED A TAX CUT THAT WOULD HAVE AFFECTED WORKING CLASS ARIZONANS I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED TO SEE THIS ISSUE COME BACK UP LATER IN THIS HE SESSION AND KEEP IN MIND.

WELL, THIS BILL WOOL HAVE REPLACED THAT REF MU FOR THE CITY ON A TEMPORARY BASIS.

NORMALLY, THAT KIND OF THING WOULD GET NEGOTIATED IN THE BUDGET.

THIS IS NOT A NRM A.M. YEAR.

THIS IS A NORMAL RIP BETWEEN THE GOVERNOR SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS NOT ANY NEGOTIATION BETWEEN THE TWO SIDES AND NO ONE REALLY WORKED WITH THE NINTH FLOOR TO SEE IF GOVERNOR HOBBS IS QUAY THIS AND MADE THE POSITION CLEAR EARLY ON.

IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS DARINGER TO VETO THIS OUT OF YOU KNOW, MAYBE PR PURPOSES BUT MAYBE, AND COULD BE NEGOTIATED AND CHANGES COULD BE MADE AND IN THE WE'LL HAVE TO SEE HOW SHE HANDLED A COUPLE OF OTHERS BECAUSE THIS IS ANOTHER BILL THAT REPUBLICANS ARE PUSHING THROUGH WOULD BAR CITIESES FROM TAXING FOOD THEN MUCH HARDER TO HICK THAT ARGUMENT THAT SAVINGS CANNOT BE PASSED ON TO THE CONSUMERS BECAUSE I IF I GO TO SAFEWAY THEY WILL NOT CHARM ME A TAX.

AND THEY DON'T HAVE INAND GOVERNOR HAS SIMILAR PROPOSAL, ON DIP DERS AND TEAM MIM HYGIENE PRODUCT AND THAT SALES TAX AND ARGUE THEY KNOW WHAT THE MARKET WILBER AND THE TAXIES AWAY AND THAT PRICE WILL GO BACK TO MEET UP.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S MOVE ON HERE WITH THE DCS DIRECTOR THE DEPARTMENT OF CHILD SAFETY.

WE HAD A NOMINEE.

WE DIDN'T HAVE A NOMINEE.

WHAT MEANED.

>> SIX WEEKS AGO HE WAS THE BEST IN THE STATE.

ACCORDING THE GOVERNOR.

AND NOW HE IS OUT.

AGAIN, THIS IS THE GOVERNOR IS NOT TAKE MUCH ABOUT.

AND IN CHARGE OF THE NOMINATIONS CERTAINLY IS TALKING IN FACT, GOVERNOR HOBS TO THE PUNCHP ANNOUNCING THIS GUY WAS HISTORY AND HE HAS SOMEWHAT CHECKERED PAST IN THE PAST WORK OF THE DEPARTMENT CHILD SERVICES AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN LEAVING AND ACCORDING TO JACK HE HAS FIRED OPENLY GAY PLOMEES WHO HAVE NOW FILED COMPLAINTS ABOUT HIM SO KATIE HOBBS BEFORE IT GETS TO THE SENATE HAS NOW WITH DRAN THAT AND DEA FEAT FOR HER.

IT HAS PLAYED AND THEY FORMED THIS NOMINATION'S COMMITTEE AND UP UNTIL NOW WE HAVE SEEN IT.

YOU KNOW?

NOMINEE GOES TO REVAL THE HEALTH COMMITTEE OR END ARE GIVE COMMITTEE OR WHATEVER.

IT IS LESS YOU, GO FORTH, DO NO HARM.

AND NOW THEY ARE ALL GETTING SORT OF THE EXAMINATIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE.

AND WHAT HOFFMAN IS SAY, LOOK.

THIS SHOWS YOU YAZ WE NEEDED TO DO THIS BECAUSE CLEARLY KATIE IS NOT DOING THE DUE DILIGENCE AND NOT DOING THE BACKGROUND AND ISN'T PREPPING THE PEM AND ISN'T CHECKING OUT WHAT THEY DO.

AND YOU KNOW, AND ALL YOU DO IS GIVE ME ANOTHER WIN.

>> YOU HAD THE GOVERNOR ON YESTERDAY ON LAST NIGHT'S PROGRAM AND SAID HOFFMAN IN THIS COMMITTEE AND ENTIRE I GUESS LEGISLATURE WHEN IT COMES TO OTHERS.

TRY HUEL MILL EATEN HERP AND NOMINEES.

SURE.

OF COURSE.

IT IS REPUBLICAN LADIES AND GENTLEMEN SLY TURE AND THE DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR WHY WOULDN'T THEY.

IT SEEPS LIKE AND PERHAPS SHE DIDN'T NEED TO GET TO THEM.

YOU DID AFTER THAT, YOU KNOW, SHE INSISTS THAT IT IS HAPPENING BUT SEEMS LIKE IF PROPER VETTING WERE HAPPENING YOU WOULD NOT VAT TO NOMINEES GET THROUGH THAT HAVE THIS STUFF ON THEIR RAILROADED AND ALSO SAID I THINK, WORTH POINTING OUT THE STUFF THAT SENATOR HALFMAN WAS TALKING ABOUT AND NOT WHY.

HE WAS NOT A GOOD FIT BUT NOT GIVING ANY EXPLANATION.

HOW DO YOU KNOW?

AFTER SIX WEEKS YOU JUST FINISH GULLINGED OUT NO AT GOOD FIT AND SOMETHING LIKE YOU KNOW, A YEAR OR OR TWO DOWN THE ROAD.

AND PROBABLY HAD NOT UM PANELINGED YET.

OH, GOOD FIT GIVE ME A BREAK.

Z AND A LITTLE BIT OF A BREAK.

WE'LL START WITH WITH YOU ON THIS ONE.

FLIP SO THIS BUSINESSES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND CREATED OUT OF COMMISSION AND LOOKING AT NOMINEES.

Z AND A RIL MORE FRIENDLY.

>> YOU CAN DECIDE SHE DECLARED WAR OR SHE IS ANSWERING A WAR THAT THEY ALREADY DECLARED BUT YEAH.

IT IS CLEAR IT HAS BECOME CLEAR TO HER AND ANYONE WATCHING THAT NOTHING AND ANY VALUE IS GOING TO GET DONE THIS YEAR AND CAN'T WORK WITH THESE PEOPLE AND SO WHY NOT GO AHEAD AND LET EBB KNOW.

I ONLY TO FLIP TWO SEAT IN THE HOUSE BECAUSE IT IS ONE SEAT MAY AREA CONTINUE'S SHE IS SITTING BACK AND ALLOWING THEM TOLL PASS AL THE WEIRD AND WACKY BILLS GOING AFTER DRAG QUEEN AND THAT STUFF JUST INCH OUT THE ROPE AND HER INTENTION.

>> THEY DO HAVE A OF COURSE RY FUND,.

NOT UNUSUAL.

YEAH.

REMEMBER HOW WE GOT WENDY ROGERS.

BUT NOT THIS LATE IN THE NAME.

GOT THE OFF YEAR AT BEGINNING.

HE NEVER HID INTENTIONS IN TERMS OF RAISING MONEY AND A LOT OF EFFORT TRYING TO PRESERVE THE MAJORITY INCREASE WHERE HE COULD.

I DON'T THINK EARLY THIS.

HE ALSO PROBABLY DID NOT HAVE QUITE THE NECESSITY THAT AS KATIE HOB WAS HAVE TO FLIP.

I THINK JAN YOU WERER HAD SOMETHING LATER IN HER AND GOVERNORSHIP TO TRY TO YOU KNOW WIN SOME LEGISLATURETIVE SEAT AND EVERY GOVERNOR DOES IT AND TRY TO MASK MAXIMIZE WHAT THEY DAN CAN AND OBVIOUSLY A LOT MORE CRITICAL.

MORE SUBTLE I THE PACT SHE MADE A BIG ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT IT.

SHE DID WANT THE WORLD TOLL KNOW.

THIS IS TRUE.

REMEMBER.

THIS IS ON TOP OF THE MILLION MALL OF.

YEAH.

YOU TALKED ABOUT IT.

THE SPEAKER AND LEADERSHIP HAVING TO KEEP CERTAIN THINGS IN LINE AND REIGN IN CERTAIN AND SHE IS GOING TO HAVE TO EVENTUALLY ARE SOME REPUBLICAN VOTE OS IN THE BUDGET.

THIS IS THE WISEST THING TO DO.

THINK THEY KNEW ALL LANG SHE WOULD COME AFTER THEM.

WELL, MAYBE.

DRAMATIC.

>> DRAMATIC.

WILL GET OVER IT.

LOOK.

AS WE GET INTO MAY, GOD HELP US JUN AND SIT AROUND HERE TALKING ABOUT IT.

THE SESSION AND I THINK THEY ARE GOING TO REALIZE WE NED A BUDGET.

WE WILL PULL IT TOGETHER THEY HAVE DONE EVERY YEAR.

THEY COBBLED TOLL TOGETHER A GROUP OF REPUBLICANS WHO SAY WE ARE NOT GOING TO LET THE PLACE CLOSE CUN AND NOT DO A NEWT GRING WITCH AND IT WILL HAPPEN.

WITH OR WITHOUT THAT ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE MILLION AND A HALF YOU GOT LEFTOVER.

WHAT THEY ARE HOT GOING TO DO IS SOLVE ANY OF THESE OTHER PROBLEMS THAT WE GOT GOING ON.

WE GOT AT HUGE WATER CRISIS COMING.

WE GOT -- I WOULD CALL IT EDUCATIONAL CRISIS IF YOU ASSUME THAT THE TEST SCORES ARE RIGHT.

SO MANY KIDS CANNOT READ OR DO MATH.

THAT TO ME IS A CRISIS.

THEY ARE NOT GET DOING ANYWHERE AND NOT GOING TO.

WE STOP IT THERE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US F. WE APPRECIATED.

THAT IS IT FOR NOW.

I AM TED SIMONS THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOININGS.

YOU HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.