CALLING FOR FIVE PERCENT ACROSS NEARLY ACROSS THE BOARD CUTS TO STATE AGENCIES OVERALL THEY WANT TO SPEND$800MILLION LESS THAN WHAT THE GOVERNOR WANTS TO SPEND SO BIG DIFFERENCE REMAINING NOT A REAL SHOCK BUT AGAIN THIS VETO THIS BLOWUP OVER THE BUDGET HAPPENS EVERY YEAR, RIGHT.

THIS KIND OF THE OFFICIAL START OF REAL NEGOTIATIONS, YOU GOT TO, YOU GOT TOT THROW THAT BUDGET OUT THERE, SHE HAS GOT TOT VETO IT AND GO BACK TO THE TABLE TO GET REAL.

ARE THEY GOING BACK TO THE TABLE?

WHERE IS THE TABLE?

>> WELL, APPARENTLY, APPARENTLY, THEY ARE TALKING BOTH SAID THEY ARE TALKING AGAIN.

THIS IS ANNUAL TRADITION, RATING.

THE LEGISLATURE TAKES A BIT OF A BREAK AT SOME POINT.

THEY SEND THE RANK AND FILE HOME AND THE LEADERSHIP STICKS AROUND TO NEGOTIATE BUDGET I DON'T THINK THEY WANT TO BE THERE ANY LONGER THAN THEY HAVE TO BE.

THEY ARE RUNNING FOR RE-ELECTION OR RUNNING FOR OTHER OFFICE SO IT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST TO GET SOMETHING DONE, THE GOVERNOR IS THERE ALL THE TIME ANYWAY AND HAS TIME.

>> BUT THE HOUSE IS NOT THERE ALL THE TIME.

THEY ARE NOT THERE NOW, ARE THEY?

WHAT IS GOING ON WITHIN THAT?

THEY ARE GONE UNTIL JUNE FIRST AFTER MONDAY.

THEY STATED THE SAME.

BUT I MEAN, HE HAS NOT LIFTED THE MORATORIUM.

SHE SAID VETO EVERY BILL THAT HITS MY DECKS AND THEY BROUGHT OUT A BUDGET.

MAYBE NOT YET THEN THAT IS UP IN THE AIR SO NOT A LOT OF POINTS, SHE IS GOING TO VETO HALF THE BILL SHE WILL SEN ANYWAY AND DEAL EVERYTHING NOW.

THEY DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS GOING TO LIFT THAT.

THEY DON'T NEED TO BE ON THE FLOOR TO NEGOTIATE THE BUDGET.

YESTERDAY THEY ACTUALLY DID START.

THEY SAT DOWN.

THEY STARTED TALKING FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE LATE MARCH.

YOU HAVE TO WONDER WHAT THE ENTIRE POINT OF, YOU KNOW, THE GOVERNOR TAKEN THE BILLION AND GOING HOME AND NO ONE CALLING EACH OTHER.

WHAT IS THE ENTIRE POINT OF THIS.

WHAT DID ANYONE GET OUT OF THIS BECAUSE THEY COULD HAVE BEEN NEGOTIATING BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THEY GOT A WAYS TO GO.

THEY ARE GOING TO DISAGREE ON A LOT.

BUT HOBBS ORIGINALLY WALKED AWAY SHE SAID BECAUSE OF PROP 123.

THEY WOULD NOT NEGOTIATE SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO.

THEY DON'T WANT TO.

THEY ARE NOT GOING TO.

NOTHING IS HAPPENING.

THE REPUBLICANS DON'T SEEM LIKELY TO BUDGE ON THAT.

I HAT V TO WONDER.

TED: REPUBLICANS SAYING THEIR BUDGET WE FACE THE MATH, WE ELIMINATED WASTE AND DELIVERED REAL RULES WITHOUT GROWING GOVERNMENT.

THAT IS THEIR SIDE.

AND AGAIN, WE GOT THE RECKLESS AND UNBALANCED AND THAT SORT OF THING.

>> YEAH.

THE GOVERNOR, I WANT TO SAY, THIS IS WHERE WE ARE AT NOW.

LIKE THE TWO SIDES MEETING.

WE'LL CALL THAT PROGRESS.

>> YES.

>> I MEAN SHALL WHERE YOU KNOW, THEY ARE ACTUALLY SITTING DOWN AND ACTUALLY TALKING AND BOTH SIDINGS CONFIRMED THIS.

YEAH, THE GOVERNOR REMEMBER, SHE AND DEMOCRATS ARE COUCHING THIS BUDGET AND THEY ARE PHRASING MAY NOT BE EX AC ON THIS AND SAYING IT IS COOPERATIONS FIRST ARIZONANS LAST.

THEY ARE GOING TO BE SAYING STUFF LIKE, YOU KNOW, THIS BUDGET GIVES TAX BREAKS TO BILLIONAIRES AND GIVES TAX BREAKS TO DATA CENTER WHICH HAS BECOME INTERESTING POLITICAL LIGHTNING ROD.

TWO YEARS AGO WE WERE NOT TALKING ABOUT DATA CENTERS BUT NOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE GET UPSET ABOUT THEM BECAUSE OF THE ENERGY THEY DRAINED THE WATER THEY USE.

THERE IS A TAX BREAK THERE THAT DEMOCRAT WAS SAY, AND SAYING IT WOULD COST THE STATE$38 TO$40MILLION.

THEY SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS USED AS INCENTIVE TO GET THE DATA CENTERS HERE AND CLEAR THE ARIZONA IS ONE OF THE LEADERS IN THE INDUSTRY.

WE HAVE A TON OF THEM HERE IN THE VALLEY AND THEY SAID, THE INCENTIVE WORKED WE DON'T NEED TO KEEP GIVING THIS MONEY BACK.

>> THEY ARE HERE.

AND ALSO, REPUBLICANS SAY THEY ARE DEAD SET NOW ON FULL CONFIRMITY WITH THE TRUMP'S BILL LIKE THAT.

THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A LOT OF WIGGLE ROOM FROM.

THE REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN ON THE TRAIN THEY SEND TWO BILLS TO THE GOVERNOR THIS YEAR THAT WOULD HAVE HAD FULL TAX INFIRMITY WITH THE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL AND THE GOVERNOR VETOED THEM BOTH.

IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD BE THE KEY AREAS THAT IF THEY ARE TALKING THAT IS SOMETHING THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE THE GOVERNOR WANTS SOME OF IT THE REPUBLICANS WANT MOST OF IT SO SHE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE SO THAT YOU KNOW, THE LEGISLATURE CAN PASS SOMETHING THAT YOU WILL SIGN.

TED: IF YOU THE GOVERNOR THOUGH, YOU GOT TO BE CARE 68.

YOU ARE DON'T WANT EVERYONE TO RUN BACK TO THE ACCOUNTANTS AND HAVING TO DO THE TAXES AGAIN.

DO YOU?

>> THAT IS FOR THE PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T TALK THE STANDARD DETECTION.

THAT HAS BEEN BAKED INTO THE PIE FOR A FEW MONTHS NOW THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THAT NOW ONCE THEY GOT CLOSE TO THE TAX DEADLINE NOW IT IS TOO LATE.

EVERYONE HAS FILED ALREADY.

A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE DOING THAT PROBABLY NOT TOO FAR BEFORE THE ELECTION, TOO.

THEY MAY BE WONDERING WHY THEY ARE HAVING TO DO THAT.

GOING BACK TO THE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL ACT SAYS MARK MENTIONED THIS IS A LINE IN THE SAND FOR THE REPUBLICANS.

THE GOVERNOR HAS NOT-- FROM DAY ONE SHE DID NOT LIKE IT BUT NEVER DREW HER OWN LINE IN THE SAND SAYING I WON'T DO THIS.

THEY HAVE TO SHOW ME HOW THEY ARE GOING TO PAY FOR THIS.

THEY HAVE THE WAYS.

WE HEARD WHAT YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THIS WEEK.

I FEEL LIKE THAT IS THE AREAS WHERE THE GOVERNOR IS GOING TO HAVE TO NEGOTIATE.

BOTH SIDES ARE WILL TO GIVE AND TAKE A LITTLE BIT HERE.

REAL AGAIN, THE LINE ON THE SAND IN BOTH SIDES THINGS LIKE FULL CONFORMITY OF THOSE ARE THE FAR ENDS AND YOU KIND OF BATTLE IN BETWEEN.

YEAH.

PROP 23 IS WITH R REALLY UNDER.

THIS WAS A PASS BY A REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR DOUG DUCEY OVER TEN YEARS AGO EXPIRED LAST YEAR, YOU I KNOW, IT IS INTERESTING TO ME, HOW DEAD SET ARE REPUBLICANS SEEM, YOU KNOW, TO BE AGAINST TRYING TO PUT THAT TO THE BOW TO LET THE VOTERS DECIDE ON THIS.

THIS SEEMS TO BE LIKE A NONISSUE WITH THEM.

IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE IF THE GOVERNOR CAN GET CONCESSION OUT OF THAT ARE THEY VOTING ON THE IDEA THAT SOME OF THE MONEY WILL-- I NO HE THEY WANT ALL THE MONEY TO GO TO TEACHERS.

>> REPUBLICANS WANT THAT YES.

DEMOCRATS ARE LIKE WAIT A MINUTE.

LET'S SPREAD IT OUT.

IS THAT THE DIFFERENCE THERE?

>> I BELIEVE, CORRECT ME IF I WRONG, LARGER DISTRIBUTION IS WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM.

RIGHT.

THE GOVERNOR IS OK WITH.

THAT?

>> AND THERE HAS BEEN CONCERN ABOUT THAT FROM BEGINNING IF YOU REMEMBER ALL THE WAY BACK TEN YEARS AGO WHEN DUCEY PASSED THIS THERE WAS TREASURE AT THE TIME JEFF DEWITT RAN A CAMPAIGN AGAINST THAT SAYING THAT LEVEL OF THE DISTRIBUTION, THE PREVIOUS LEVEL COULD HURT THE STATELAND TRUST AND MAKE IT GO BUST DOWN THE ROAD IF YOU INCREASED THAT DISTRIBUTION INTERESTS THE STATELAND TRUST COULD BE MORE RESISTANCE TO THIS.

>> PROBABLY THE BIGGEST REASON WE HAVE IT, ANY MOVEMENT ON THIS BECAUSE REPUBLICANS CANNOT AGREE ON THEMSELVES THERE IS A FACTION, A LARGE FACTION DOWN THERE, WHO WANT THIS, WANT 123 TO INCLUDE PROTECTIONS FOR SCHOOL OF CHOICE PROGRAMS WHICH MEANS PROTECTION FOR ESA'S.

THEN OTHERS, FEEL LIKE THAT IS GOING TO DOG IT DOWN.

YOU KNOW, DEFLECTS THE PORT FROM THE LEFT FROM CENTER LEFT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF DEMOCRATS WON'T VOTE FOR THAT SO THEY CANNOT AGREE ON WHETHER THAT SHOULD BE IN THERE AND HAMPERING THIS SO OBVIOUSLY WE ARE NOT GOING TO SEE ANYTHING AND NOT GOING TO SEE THIS ON THE BALLOT MAYBE NOVEMBER202 WE CAN CHECK BACK NEXT YEAR.

>> ALL RIGHT.

WHY.

>> ARE THEY CELEBRATING A WIN?

>> IT IS A PREDICTION MARKET WEBSITE WHERE YOU CAN GO AND PUT MONEY ON ALL SORTS OF THINGS INCLUDING PORTING EVENTS, ELECTION RESULTS WHETHER WE ARE GOING TO BOMB SOMEBODY AND WHO IS GOING TO WIN THE ACADEMY AWARD FOR WHATEVER.

AND THEY ARE HAPPY BECAUSE ATTORNEY GENERAL KRIS MAYES HAD SUED TO TRY TO STOP THEM FROM OPERATING MUCH IF NOT ALL OF WHAT THEY DO IN ARIZONA AND THE JUDGE SAID, WE CAN'T DO IT.

THE FEDERAL LAW SUPERSEDES STATE LAW.

TED: THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE HERE.

IT IS STATE LAW SAYS YOU CANNOT GAM PELL OR DO GAMING ON ELECTIONS AND YOU CANNOT DO OTHER THINGS AS WELL, BUT THE FEDERAL JUDGE SAYS, THIS IS NOT PER VIEW, THIS IS FEDERAL.

>> YEAH, ONE OF THE THINGS WE START TALKING ABOUT.

IT IS TECHNOLOGY ALWAYS SEEMS TO BE LIKE, BE ONE STEP AHEAD OF MAYBE WHERE THE LAWS ARE AND PEOPLE ARE.

AND THE MARKETS, ALLUDED TO, AND YOU KNOW, IT IS SEEN AS REALLY PROBLEMATIC.

THERE WERE PEOPLE BETTING ON MARKETS YOU KNOW, WINNING MONEY OFF WHEN WE WERE GOING TO BOMB EYE REASON OR INVADE VENEZUELA AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT GOING, I DON'T KNOW IF I LIKE WHERE THIS IS GOING RIGHT NOW.

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, AMAZES ME THE FIRST TO BRING A SUIT AGAINST THIS AND NOW, YOU KNOW, INTERESTING TO SEE WHERE PUBLIC OPINION IS ON THIS AND GET TO HEAR ABOUT THIS AND LEARN ABOUT THIS AND I COULD BET ON WHETHER TED SILON MONTHS WEARS A BLUE TIE OR A RED TIE.

>> IN THE END, LET ME KNOW.

>> THE THING IS, THE THING IS, YOU CAN LET ME OR JEREMY IN ON WHAT TIE YOU ARE WEARING AND THROW MONEY ON BEFORE THE SHOW.

WE TALK AFTERWARDS AND ATTORNEY GENERAL ALSO SAID THAT WAS NOT D IN ARIZONA TO DO THIS STUFF.

AND AGAIN, IF THE COMMODITIES FUTURE TRADING COME MISSION SAYS IT OWES IT IS OK.

>> SURE.

KRIS MAYES IS APPROACHING THIS THE WAY THE STATE WOULD LOOK AT DRAFT KINGS ORPHAN DUAL.

THESE ON-LINE SPORTS BETTING MARKETS WHICH HAVE BECOME HUGE IN RECENT YEARS BUT THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AND TO THE AVERAGE PERSON, TO THE LAY PERSON, TO US SITTING ON THE PHONES PLACING A BET, THERE IS ZERO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FAN DUAL AND THESE PREDICTION MARKETS BUT THE WAY IT IS STRUCTURED IS DIFFERENT ENOUGH IT TRIGGERS THE FEDERAL LAW AND FUTURES TRADING YOU ARE BETTING AGAINST THE HOUSE AND PERSON-TO-PERSON SWAP.

DON'T ASK ME TO GET BOGGED DOWN IN THE DETAILS OF IT.

IT IS DIFFERENT ENOUGH.

OH, WE ARE NOT THE ONCE.

>> YEAH.

KEY WORD IS SWAP.

FUTURES TRADING AND COMMODITY FUTURES TRADE IS REGULATED BY THE FEDS.

>> THIS IS NOT A TEMPORARY BLOCK BUT A PERMANENT BLOCK.

IT IS.

IT IS INTERESTING TO NOTE THERE IS ANOTHER CASE FROM NEVADA IN THE NINTH COURT OF APPEALS A HE THIS.

DEFENDING ON HOW THAT ONE GOES, OBVIOUSLY ARIZONA IS PART OF THE NINTH CIRCUIT IF NEVADA WERE TO WIN IT COULD CHANGE THINGS SOMEWHAT.

TED: WE HAD DEBATE HERE.

CANDIDATES CONVERSATIONS.

IT IS NOT A DEBATE.

I IS A CONVERSATION THAT TURNED INTO KIND OF A LIVELY AFFAIR I SHOULD SAY BETWEEN THEM.

THIS IS REPUBLICANS IN CD1.

QUICKLY GOT CONTENTIOUS.

>> YEAH.

MAYBE THAT IS NOT SUPER SURPRISING.

PRIMARY DEBATES CAN GO ONE OF TWO WAYS, RIGHT?

TYPICALLY THE CANDIDATES, THERE IS NOT ALWAYS A WHOLE LOT OF DAYLIGHT BETWEEN THEM AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO APPEAL TO VOTERS TO TELL THEM WHAT IS DIFFERENT ABOUT CANDIDATE ONE VERSUS CANDIDATE TWO AND THEN IN SOME CASES THAT COMES DOWN TO PERSONALITY OR ZINGERS OR CLEVER ONE LINES.

>> YEAH.

WE HAD SILICON VALLEY REPUBLICAN AND CALLING FEELY AN ENTERTAINER.

YEAH THAT IS INTERESTING TAKE ON FORMER NFL KICKER, FORMER CARDINALS' KIRK OUT HERE.

IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS LITTLE BIT OF DAYLIGHT ON THE THINGS.

HE TOOK POSITIONS AND IRAN, IRAN WAR, TARIFFS, THINGS THAT ARE OBVIOUSLY NEAR AND DEAR TO PRESIDENT TRUMP'S HEART AND MAGA WHICH FEELY CANNOT DO BECAUSE HE IS TRUMP ENDORSED CANDIDATE.

I THINK AS THE TRUMP ENDORSED CANDIDATE SO HE HAS GOT TO KICK IT DOWN THE MIDDLE ON THAT TRUMP TELEPHONE AGENDA.

>> YOU LOOK THAT.

HE DOES NOT HAVE THE TRUMP ENDORSEMENT.

THAT IS IMPORTANT.

YOU KNOW?

HE IS GOING AGAINST, AT LEAST SOUNDING CRITICAL OF THE POLICIES OF TRUMP.

THAT IS NOT GOOD FOR HIM IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY BECAUSE WE LOOK OUTSIDE OF ARIZONA THE PAST WEEK LOOKING AT NORTH DAKOTA WHAT HAPPENED THERE.

TRUMP RAN A SLATED CANDIDATES AGAINST INCUMBENT REPUBLICANS THERE AND MAJORITY OF THOSE WON.

THE LESSON FROM THAT IS, HE STILL HOLDS A LOT OF SWAY, A LOT OF INFLUENCE, POWER, A GRIP TON THE PARTY SO YOU KNOW, HE IS AT RISK WHEN HE STARTS DOING STUFF.

>> HE IS AT RISK.

WHAT ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR DISTRICT?

BECAUSE THAT DOES NOT STRICK ME AS A MAGA HEAVY REPUBLICAN DISTRICT.

YEAH.

IT MAY NOT BE MAGA DISTRICT AGAIN.

A GENERAL ELECTION, THAT VOTER FOR TRUMP BUT THIS IS A PRIMARY.

TED: RIGHT.

RIGHT.

>> THESE ARE DIFFERENT VOTERS THAN YOU WILL SEE IN THE GENERAL ELECTION.

>> AGAIN BY THE WAY WASN'T THERE A THIRD CANDIDATE.

>> YEAH.

STATE REPRESENTATIVE.

YEAH.

APPARENTLY HE DECIDE HE CUT IN DIDN'T WANT TO HANG OUT WITH YOU.

>> YEAH.

YOU KNOW, THE IDEA OF NOT SHOWING UP WHEN YOU AGREED TO WE CAN GET INTO THAT LATER.

THE FACT IS, JAKE DID NOT TAKE ANY PAUSE.

>> YEAH.

I MEAN, IT WAS INTERESTING INTERESTING APPROACH ESPECIALLY BECAUSE YOU KNOW, AS THESE GUY HAVE SAID.

HE HAS THE TRUMP ENDORSEMENT IN THEORY HE HAS GOOD NAME ID HE WAS ON TV.

WAS NFL SIDELINE REPORTER FOR CBS FOR AWHILE.

YOU I WOULD THINK HE WOULD HAVE A NAME I.D.

AND NOT FEEL THE NEED TO GO TO NAME-CALLING.

TED: HE WITH TALKED ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR DISTRICT WHERE THE HE CAN BE REPUBLICAN VOTERS ARE SAME THE SAME IN OTHERS.

WHAT ABOUT DEMOCRATIC VOTERS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE THEY SEEM TO THINK THEY HAVE A FRONTRUNNER IN MARLIN WOODS.

YEAH.

BOTH NATIONAL PARTIES HAVE KIND OF PUT THEIR WAIT BEHIND THE CANDIDATES AND PRIMARIES.

YOU KNOW, MARLIN WOODS FORMER TV JOURNALIST ONE OF THE CANDIDATES TWO YEARS AGO LOST.

THEY ARE BOTH RUNNING AGAIN.

THIS YEAR, SOUNDS LIKE THEY DON'T THINK SHAW IS THE ONE TO TAKE THEM ACROSS THE FINISH LINES AND FELL SHORTAGE 4% A FEW YEARS AGO MUCH DIFFERENT YEAR, MUCH DIFFERENT WAY RACE, OBVIOUSLY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO HOLD OUT OF THAT DISTRICT FOR A LOT OF YEARS BUT THIS CONFERS, YOU OH, SOME STATUS, SOME BENEFITS TO WOODS, PROBABLY SOME FUND-RAISING TO HELP WITH RECOGNITION, ASSISTANCE IN VARIOUS WAYS FROM THE PARTY.

BUT WE'LL SEE, WE'LL SEE HOW MUCH HELP IS GOING TO COME.

THAT IS WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO.

I THINK, BEES UNLESS THEY ARE GOING TO START SPENDING MONEY.

BOTH SIDES NEED TO SAVE THEIR MONEY FOR THE GENERAL.

THIS COULD MOVE THE NEED A LITTLE BIT.

BUT UNLESS, HE IS WILLING TO PUT A LOT OF YOU GOT TO WONDER HOW MUCH I IT WHICH WILL HELP.

>> TENACIOUS CAMPAIGNER WHO IS KNOWN FOR KNOCKING ON THOUSANDS IF NOT THOUSANDS OF DOORS AND ANY GIVEN CAMPAIGN THAT MEANS A LOT TO VOTERS IN ANY DISTRICT WHEN YOU GO THROUGHOUT TO KNOCK ON THE DOOR BUT NOT TO TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM WOODS WHO GOT THAT ENDORSEMENT WHICH KIND OF LEFT, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE WAS SURPRISED TO SEE D TRIP WAS GET INVOLVED IN A PRIMARY LIKE THIS AND I MUST TELL YOU THEY HAVE SEEN SOMETHING THERE MAY BE POLLING THERE.

>> THAT IS WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK.

MAYBE THEY LIKE THE IDEA OF VOTING FOR A WOMAN IN THAT DISTRICT.

AND/OR WOODS APPEALED APPEALS MORE TO THAT AND MUST HAVE SEEN SOMETHING THERE.

I THINK THEY SAW 2024 AND HAD HIS CHANCE AND DIDN'T PERFORM THAT WITH WELL IN A YEAR WHEN DEMOCRATS HAD HIGH HOPES AND MY BE SAYING WE SAW WHAT YOU HAVE TO OFFER.

DIDN'T PERFORM THAT WELL.

HE BEAT WOODS AMONG OTHERS IN THE PRIMARY.

I MEAN, THAT WAS A CONTESTED PRIMARY AND SHAWN CAME OUT AHEAD.

I DON'T THINK THERE IS A TON OF POLLING IN THE RACE BUT THE POLLS I HAVE SEEN.

SHAW HAS BEEN AHEAD SO FAR IN THE RACE AS WELL SO INTERESTING TO KNOW, IF WE COULD FIND OUT.

WHAT THE SAW INTO THEIR DECISION TO BACK WOODS IN THAT RACE.

TED: AND REAL QUICKLY, DOES IT MAKE THAT MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE?

DO YOU THINK?

I MEAN, MONEY IS THERE.

STRAG SIZING ALL OF THAT KIND OF BUSINESS.

THAT IS GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

>> THE MONEY WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE BECAUSE SHAW IS, I MEAN, HE KNOCKS ON DOORS, HE GETS OUT THERE WEARS OUT THE SHOES THE WHOLE BIT.

HE IS, YOU KNOW, HE IS WON RACE BEFORE.

HE WAS ELECTED SO IF THERE IS MONEY OR ORGANIZATION OR OTHER SORT OF INFRASTRUCTURE TYPE THINGS THAT OFFER THAT COULD BE HELPFUL.

YEAH THEY HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE SIGNALS TWO BIG DONORS, MAY, THIS IS TO BET ON HERE.

TED: ALL RIGHT.

IT LOOKS LIKE NO LABELS PARTY CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR I I THINK WE HAD THAT FIGURED OUT.

SUPREME COURT CEMENTED THE FACT THAT IT IS A PARTY OF THREE.

>> YEAH.

HE IS GOING TO GET IT.

PART OF WHAT THEY WANT.

HE IS ON THE BALL LET AND TALK ABOUT HUGH WILL BE NOT ON THE BALLOT THEY HOPE THEY WANTED TO BE ARIZONA.

PARTY AND THAT STOPPED GOING BACK TO THE OLD NO LABELS PARTY AND I DON'T KNOW HOW SUCCESSFUL THIS IS GOING TO BE.

AS A CANDIDATE, I KNOW THAT THE OTHER PARTIES PARTICULARLY THE DEMOCRAT PARTY IS GOING TO BE VERY HAPPY THERE IS NO ARIZONA PENT PARTY AND THE CAPITAL LETTERS ON THE BALLOT BECAUSE THEY DID FEAR THERE WAS CONCERN THEY COULD TAKE VOTES AWAY THAT OTHERWISE MAY HAVE WENT TO HOBBS.

IT IS THERE CONCERN, THOUGH, FROM EITHER PARTY, HE IS STILL ON THE BALLOT?

HE IS GOING TO DRAW VOTES FROM ONE?

>> OH, I AM SURE THERE IS.

I PROBABLY ESPECIALLY FROM THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE.

I MEAN KATIE HOBBS IS A DEMOCRAT PULLING STATEWIDE CITIES AND CENTER RIGHT STATE AND ANY CROSSOVER VOTES SHE NEEDS TO GET THOSE TO WIN THE GENERAL ELECTION AND TOUGHER TO DO THAT WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEONE STAKED OUT POSITIONS AND VERY, IN THE MIDDLE VERY CENTER LEFT TRYING TO SIPHON AWAY THOSE AND MAYBE SOME CENTER WRIGHT VOTERS AND CONSERVATIVE I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANDY BIGGS THE BEST CANDIDATE.

OH, MAYBE THIS IS THINK I DID.

BUT ARE PEOPLE GOING TO KNOW ABOUT IT IN THE HOW MUCH MONEY?

IS HE GOING TO?

ARE VOTERS GOING TO KNOW THAT MUCH ABOUT THEM WHEN THEY WALK TO THE VOTING BOOTH OR GOING TO SAY HOBBS YOU ARE BIG.

DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN.

THAT WAS CONCERNED ARIZONA DEPARTMENT PARTY WE DO KNOW THE SECOND LARGEST BLOCK OF VOTERS HERE IS INDEPENDENTS BUT THAT A SMALL CASE, YOU KNOW, INDEPENDENTS AND JUST MEANS THEY ARE PARTY NOT DESIGNATED AND YOU KNOW, IN SOME PEOPLE MAY LOOK AT THAT AND SAY, I AM INDEPENDENT AND VOTE THAT WAY.

THINK THAT IS WHAT THE HOBBS PEOPLE.

TED: IN THIS CASE, MARK, INTERESTING BECAUSE APPARENTLY THERE WAS BROUGHT BY A DEMOCRATIC ACTIVISTS BECAUSE LIDDELL HIS ADDRESS ON THE NOMINATING POSITION PETITIONS WAS PRIVATE UPS.

LIKE A POST OFFICE BOX.

TED: THE SUPREME COURT STATED WAS NOT A MATERIAL MISSTATEMENT.

I FOUND INTERESTING.

>> WELL, THE DIFFERENCE HERE, I AM NOT A LAWYER BE WHERE I WILL NOT TRY TO SAY TOO MUCH.

BECAUSE HE IS RUNNING IN A STATEWIDE ELECTION, THIS THE UPS STORE THAT HE PUT ON THE FORM WAS WITHIN MAYBE LIKE 10-15-MILES FROM WHERE HE LIVED AND WAS NOT A DISTRICT THING LIKE HE WASH HE WAS RUNNING IN SCOTTSDALE AND HADED A PO BOX IN GLENDALE WHICH COULD BE CONFUSING.

IT WAS ALL ARIZONA RUNNING FOR A STATEWIDE OFFICE THE COURT SAID, YOU KNOW, NOBODY IS GOING TO BE CONFUSED BY THIS.

YEAH.

NO CONFUSION HERE BECAUSE OF THE SAME CITY AND THE SAME TOWN HERE.

BUT STILL, THE BLACK LETTER OF THE LAW.

I MEAN, YOU GET STRICK COMPLIANCE AND THE LAWYER HAT FOR A MOMENT.

WHICH IS CANDIDATE THEY GET A LITTLE BIT MORE LEEWAY.

YOU HAVE TO STRICTLY COMPLY WITH THE LETTER OF THE LAW WHICH THE LEGISLATURE DOES NOT LIKE SO THEY MADE IT HARDER THEN CANDIDATES THEY ARE ALL CANDIDATES WHO WANT TO MAKE IT EASIER AS LONG AS YOU COMPLY AND THE UPS STORES YOU LIVE IN SCOTTSDALE.

HERE YOU GO.

THAT IS CLOSE ENOUGH.

YOU COMPLIED.

GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME.

TED: WHAT GOOD IS RESIDENTS ADDRESS REQUIREMENT FORCE STATEWIDE IS?

WHY HAVE IT.

WE REJECT RESIDENCY.

MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THAN THIS.

RESIDENCE SAYS STATE OF MIND.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW.

>> YEAH.

YEAH.

WE HAVE SEEN THIS FOR A LONG TIME, THEY ARE CANDIDATES LAWMAKERS NOW AT THE CAPITAL.

I REMEMBER WHERE I WON'T NAME HIM.

BUT REPRESENTATIVE ONE DISTRICT AND BUT EVERYBODY KNEW HE LIVED SOMEPLACE ELSE AND LISTED A PO BOX AS RESIDENCE IN THIS AREA AND I JOKED ALL THE TIME.

DO YOU GET CRAMMED LIVING IN A PO BOX.

>> STATEWIDE OFFICE.

UPS STORE.

HERE WE COME.

YEAH.

YEAH YOU KNOW.

YOU CAN GET THE PACK MATERIALS AND PENS AND PENCILS EVERYTHING YOU NEED THERE.

>> THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THE RACE, THOUGH.

GOVERNOR HOBBS WON FOUR YEARS AGO BY 17,000 VOTES SO EVEN HUGH GETS A VERY, VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE AND GETS A COUPLE OF POINTS THEN IN ANOTHER CLOSE RACE.

IT COULD POTENTIALLY LIKE, IT COULD PLAY A ROLE THERE.

IT COULD.

HENCE THE DEMOCRATIC ACTIVISTS AND DEMOCRATIC HE WERE TOES ARE VERY CLOSE WITH CERTAIN CANDIDATES WHO MAY ALSO BE ON THE SAME SPOT ON THE BALLOT.

TED: ALL RIGHT.

DENNIS, IT SOUNDS LOOK THE RECONSIDERATION OF ARIZONA'S RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA LAW.

THAT WILL NOT BE RECONSIDERED.

>> PROBABLY A GOOD DECISION.

I DON'T SEE, I DIDN'T SEE THAT ONE GOING VERY FAR ANYWAY.

YOU KNOW?

AS WE ARE SAYING BEFORE.

THE POLITICAL WINS, YOU SMELL THAT OR WHAT NOT.

AND I MEAN, PEOPLE, ENJOY THEIR MARIJUANA AND YOU KNOW, THEY CONSUME IT.

WE HAVE SEEN THAT.

I DON'T THINK YOU GIVE THE PUBLIC SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND TRY TO TAKE IT BACK.

TED: THIS WAS SHAWN I BELIEVE THE PLAN.

I THINK THE MAJOR CONCERN WAS KIDS.

AND HOW IT WAS BEING MARKETED TO KIDS BUT I THINK, HE INVESTIGATED THIS AND DIDN'T SEE THAT.

>> YEAH.

YEAH.

KIND OF THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE PERHAPS.

YEAH.

LONG TIME REPUBLICAN OPERATIVE.

WELL-KNOWN.

I THINK ALL OF US HERE.

HE IS CONCERNED.

STARTED COLLECTING SIGNATURES THEN SAID HE LOOKED INTO IT.

DON'T THINK THAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING PLUS HAVE BEEN STATE LAWS PASSED CRACKING DOWN ON THE ABILITY TO DO AND THAT ACKNOWLEDGED LIKE, TO DENNIS' POINT.

THAT HAVE SHIFTED AND YOU SEE NATIONALLY, I MEAN, GETTING PASSED TO MORE AND MORE PLACES.

HE HELPED DEFEAT THIS AND LIKE 51-9 THE NEXT TIME AROUND IT PASSED EASILY AND SEES THE WRITING ON THE WALL.

I DON'T WANT TO BE CYNICAL HE WAS INVESTIGATING WHETHER OR NOT THIS, YOU KNOW, KIDS OR NOT, THIS WAS NOT AFFECTING KIDS.

DID HE INVESTIGATE AND FIND OUT DE I AM NOT GOING TO GET AS MUCH HUN MONEY TO GET AS I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO GET.

WHO IS GOING TO INVEST IN THIS?

>> AGAIN, REGARDING THE COMMENT.

IT SEEMS UNLIKELY.

YOU HAVE THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION RECLASSIFY MARIJUANA.

YEAH.

I MEAN, IT IS BECOMING MORE AND MORE STATES HAVE MEDICAL PROGRAMS, MORE AND MORE STATES HAVE RECREATIONAL PROGRAMS.

YOU HAVE NOT SEEN ANY THAT HAVE TAKEN IT AWAY YET.

THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN TOUGH SELL.

BEFORE WE GO, I WANT TO GET A PREDICTION HERE.

JUST A PREDICTS.

WE'LL START WITH YOU.

BUDGET TALKS.

BY AS THIS TIME NEXT WEEK, BY THIS TIME IN TWO WEEKS, WHAT DO WE SEE?

I THINK, HOPEFULLY, THEY ARE STILL TALKING.

THAT IS IT.

>> I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOME LINES IN THE SAND THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH.

I HAVE NO IDEA HOW OFTEN THEY WILL BE TALKING IF IT IS ONCE A WEEK.

THREE TIMES A DAY.

I HAVE NO IDEA.

I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THEY WOULD GET A DEAL AND LIKE TO THINK BEFORE JUNE30th THEY WILL HAVE A DEAL.

ALL RIGHT.

WE CAN EVEN TAKE IT OUT.

WHAT DO YOU SEE HAPPENING?

>> PROBABLY BY THAT JUNE FIRST DEADLINE.

NOW THEY HAVE ACTUALLY SAT DOWN AND THEY ARE TALK.

I THINK BY THAT JUNE FIRST DEADLINE WE WOMEN PROBABLY HAVE A DEAL WHICH IS MORE OPTIMISTIC THAN I SAID IF YOU ASKED ME IN JANUARY.

INTERESTING.

I THINK IT GOES THE MIDDLE JUNE.

I DON'T THINK YOU SEE ANYTHING NEXT WEEK IN THE TALKS.

CONCRETE IDEAS ON PAPER YOU GOT TO GET BACK JUNE FIRST.

THIS MAY BE SOMETHING THERE TO VOTE ON OR WHAT NOT.

I AM NOT THAT HOPEFUL ON THAT SOME THINKING MID-JUNE.

>> 15th OF UNION.

WILL WE HEAR ABOUT IT THOUGH?

WILL WE HEAR PEOPLE POPPING UP AND SAYING, YEAH BUT N ARE THEY GOING TO ARGUE THIS IN THE PRESS OR KEEP IT LOW >> A GREAT QUESTION.

I HOPE THEY ARGUE IT IN THE PRESS.

>> YEAH.

>> I MEAN, YEAH.

>> WE NEED A FRY DOW SHOW.

YEAH.

>> THE ONLY REASON WE KNOW THEY ARE TALKING BECAUSE OF HOBBS AND PETERSEN.

IT GETS TO THE PRESS AND STUFF LIKE THIS AND IT DOES LEAK OUT TO THE PRESS, SOMEBODY IS FRUSTRATED.

I THINK YOU FORKING SEE THAT MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE 1078 OF THE ISSUES CAN SAY THEY ARE 7% THERE OR WHAT NOT.

SOME ISSUES ARE BIG TO OVERCOME.

>> WE ARE 100% DONE.

THANKS FOR JOINING US.

THAT IS IT FOR SHOW NOW.

I AM TED SIMONS THANKS FOR JOINING YOU.

YOU HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.

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