
Journalists' Roundtable 6-5-26
Season 2026 Episode 110 | 22m 40sVideo has Closed Captions
It's Friday, which means it's time for the Journalists' Roundtable.
This week, "Arizona Horizon" host Rick DeBruhl was joined by Jeremy Duda of Axios Phoenix, Dennis Welch of CBS-5 and 3-TV, and Wayne Schutsky of KJZZ Radio.
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Journalists' Roundtable 6-5-26
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RICK: COMING UP NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON," IT'S THE JOURNALISTS' ROUNDTABLE.
WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THE WEEK'S TOP STORIES INCLUDING ATTORNEY GENERAL KRIS MAYES' NEW ATTEMPT TO REVIVE ARIZONA'S FAKE ELECTORS CASE.
THE JOURNALISTS' ROUNDTABLE IS NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON."
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RICK: GOOD EVENING, WELCOME TO "ARIZONA HORIZON."
I'M RICK DEBRUHL FILLING IN FOR TED SIMONS THIS WEEK.
IT'S FRIDAY, AND THAT MEANS IT'S TIME FOR THE JOURNALISTS' ROUNDTABLE.
JOINING US TONIGHT, JEREMY DUDA OF AXIOS PHOENIX.
WAYNE SCHUTSKY OF KJZZ RADIO AND DENNIS WELCH FROM CBS 5 AND 3TV THANKS FOR BEING HERE.
KRIS MAYES AND THE FAKE ELECTORS CASE, THEY DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS GOING ON, WHAT HAPPENED THIS WEEK?
>> THE SUPREME COURT CONSIDERED MAYES' APPEAL OF LOWER COURT RULING.
WHAT THE JUDGE SAID IS PROSECUTORS DIDN'T PROVIDE THE ACTUAL TEXT OF A LAW THAT GAVE THEM THE LEGAL PATHWAY TO DO WHAT THEY DID, IS FIND ALTERNATE CLAIMING DONALD TRUMP WON IN 2020, WHICH HE DIDN'T, AND THE GRAND JURY NEEDED TO PROVIDE THE EVIDENCE IF THEY WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD.
MAYES THOUGHT THE PROSECUTORS DID ENOUGH, THE COURT OF APPEALS AND SUPREME COURT SAID NOPE, SO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS TO GO BACK TO THE GRAND JURY.
RICK: WHAT DOES IT MEAN, GO BACK TO THE GRAND JURY NOW.
>> BACK TO SQUARE ONE.
BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD, PICK YOUR CLICHE THERE.
SHE WANTS TO GO BACK AND DO THIS AGAIN.
RICK: UNDERSTANDING THAT PRETTY MUCH EVERY OTHER STATE HAS GIVEN UP THIS PROCESS.
>> YEAH, AND AGAIN, IT'S 2026 AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS 2020 ELECTION.
YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD ON THIS, IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE IF THEY DO THE GRAND JURY THING AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE THIS TIME MOVING FORWARD, AND I'M SURE THEY'RE GOING TO GOTT THEIR Is AND CROSS THEIR Ts BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T DO DUE DILIGENCE IN THE BEGINNING.
RICK: WHY DO IT?
WHY NOT DO IT THE WAY THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO FROM THE BEGINNING?
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>> I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING DO.
THEY WILL VERY DILIGENTLY READ THE FULL TEXT OF THE ELECT REALLY COUNT OF 1887, PRESENT I WOULD IMAGINE THE SAME ARGUMENTS THEY PRESENTED THE LAST TIME, WITH THE ONE CRITICAL PIECE.
I THINK THEY SUMMARIZED IT LAST TIME, DIDN'T READ THE FULL THING, DOT THE Is, ACROSS THE Ts, THIS COULD TAKE A WHILE.
MAYES STARTED THIS INVESTIGATION FEW MONTHS AFTER SHE TOOK OFFICE IN 2023.
FROM THERE, TOOK ABOUT A YEAR BEFORE WE SAW INDICTMENTS, AND THAT MEANS IT COULD BE AS MUCH AS A YEAR UNTIL WE SEE IF A GRAND JURY REINDICTS THESE FOLKS, COULD BE UP TO A YEAR, WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN DURING THAT YEAR IS ELECTION FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL, WHERE KRIS MAYES COULD FIND HERSELF OUT OF A JOB IN JANUARY.
IF THAT HAPPENS -- ON DAY ONE, IF WARREN PETERSEN OR RODNEY GLASSMAN AS ATTORNEY GENERAL, BOTH SAY THEY WILL DROP IT.
THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE REPUBLICAN BASE TO GET RID OF THIS CASE.
>> AND YOU GOT TO WONDER TOO POLITICALLY, IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES RUNNING FOR THAT JOB, IS NOT GOING TO MAKE POLITICAL HEY OUT OF.
LOOK WHAT KRIS MAYES HAS DONE WITH THE OFFICE.
RICK: NO QUESTION THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT.
THE QUESTION IS, IS IT AN EFFECTIVE WAY TO RUN A CAMPAIGN?
>> COULD BE.
WEAPONIZATION OF THINGS, SOMETHING THEY CAN POINT TO AND SAY, LOOK, SHE'S WEAPONIZED THIS OFFICE, SHE COULDN'T GET ANY REAL INDICTMENTS INITIALLY BUT SHE'S CONTINUING TO DO THIS AND GO AFTER THESE PEOPLE.
REMEMBER, IT'S BEEN SIX YEARS SINCE THAT ELECTION.
OUR VOTERS, ARE THEIR MEMORIES THAT GOOD?
DO THEY REMEMBER EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED WITH THE 2020 ELECTION, EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED AFTER THAT?
>> FOR THE REPUBLICAN VOTER, WEAPONIZATION IS VERY IMPORTANT.
GENERAL ELECTION, I'M NOT SURE THAT WILL BE QUITE THE SAME LEVEL OF ARGUMENT, BUT IN THE GENERAL ELECTION, YOU HAVE TO WONDER HOW MUCH APPETITE PEOPLE -- OUTSIDE OF DEMOCRATS WHO CARE VERY MUCH ABOUT PURSUING THIS CASE, AND BRINGING -- RICK: IS IT ANCIENT HISTORY, IN OTHER WORDS?
>> EVEN A LOT OF VOTERS WHO PROBABLY WEREN'T TOO HAPPY WITH WHAT THEY SAW ON JANUARY 6 AND THE REPUBLICAN ELECTORS AFTER THE 2020 ELECTION, A LOT OF THEM PROBABLY -- FOLKS ARE NOT GOING TO GET THAT ANIMATED, I THINK, ABOUT WE NEED TO SEE THIS CASE WITH A CONCLUSION, KEEP IT UP.
RICK: THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION ACCUSED OF USING THE GRAND JURY GOING BACK AGAIN AND AGAIN.
CAN THAT ACCUSATION BE MADE AGAINST KRIS MAYES, OR IS THIS A DIFFERENT SCENARIO?
>> THAT'S DEFINITELY AN ACCUSATION THAT SOME OF THE TORNS FOR THE ACCUSED FAKE ELECTORS ARE MAKING IN THIS CASE.
WE'VE HEARD THE PHRASES A PROSECUTOR CAN GET AN INDICTMENT AGAINST A BAKED POTATO AGAINST A GRAND JURY, SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.
IF WE GET INTO THE MINUTIA OF THAT INDICTMENT, THEY DIDN'T GIVE THE TEXT OF THE LAW.
THEY HAD ONE OF THE ACCUSED ARCHITECTS OF THE SCHEME TO EXPLAIN THE LEGAL THEORY TO THE GRAND JURY IS WHAT TESTIMONY WAS MADE IN THE COURTROOM, BUT DO VOTERS CARE ABOUT GETTING INTO THE MINUTIA OF THE CASE OR ARE THEY TIRED OR AMBIVALENT SIX YEARS ON?
WE'RE SEEING POLLING ON DEMOCRACY ISSUES GETTING LOWER AND LOWER EVERY YEAR FROM 2020.
>> VOTERS' MINDORS AFFORDABILITY AND LOWERING GAS PRICES AND MAKING LIFE MORE AFFORDABLE THAN IT IS.
THATP TIGHT, THAT DESIRE TO SEE THIS AS A MAJOR FOCAL POINT.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THERE.
>> KRIS MAYES, 40 SOMETHING LAWSUITS, I THINK, SHE HAS JOINED AGAINST THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION SOME FASHION, HAS MADE HERSELF THE FACE OF DEMOCRATIC RESISTANCE IN THE STATE.
THAT'S SOMETHING THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE WHETHER IT'S PETERSEN OR GLASSMAN IS GOING TO TRY TO USE AGAINST HER.
I DON'T THINK VOTERS CARE ABOUT THIS COMPARED TO THE OTHER STUFF, BUT LUMPED INTO THE SAME ARGUMENT, I THINK.
RICK: SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VOTERS, IT'S TIME TO ACTUALLY HAVE VOTERS VOTE HERE IN ARIZONA.
THE PRIMARY ELECTION OFFICIALLY IS NEXT MONTH, BUT EARLY VOTING HERE IN ARIZONA BEGINS IN JUST THREE WEEKS.
SO WE'RE NOW RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER FROM THE FIRST ACTIVITY IN TERMS OF VOTING, AND I WANT TO DO A PRIMER AND TALK ABOUT WHERE WE'RE AT, AND THE FIRST THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT EARLY BALLOTS AND WHETHER THEY'RE ALLOWED, WHETHER THE POST OFFICE -- IF I'M A VOTER, AND I'M GETTING READY TO THINK ABOUT VOTING IN THIS PRIMARY ELECTION, IS ANYTHING ACTUALLY DIFFERENT FOR ME?
>> THERE'S NOT A TON OF DIFFERENCES FROM THE LAST TIME AROUND.
DIFFERENCE IS THAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE RUNNING IN MARICOPA COUNTY AREN'T GETTING ALONG, SO THERE ARE VERY REAL CONCERNS HOW THESE ELECTIONS ARE GOING TO RUN.
IF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE COURT ARE TALKING.
ONE NEW LAW PEOPLE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IS IF YOU'RE DROPPING OFF AN EARLY BALLOT AND WANT TO COUNT IT RIGHT AWAY, YOU CAN SHOW I.D.
TO HAVE THAT VERIFIED WHETHER THAN PUTTING IT THROUGH SIGNATURE VERIFICATION.
THAT'S A NEW THING.
PEOPLE ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE DISAGREEMENT BETWEEN THE ADMINISTRATORS OF THE ELECTIONS.
>> WILL THERE BE DROP BOXES, THE LATEST ITERATION OF THE SUPERVISORS.
RICK: I WAS GOING TO SAY, WE NEED TO EXPLAIN, FOR THOSE VIEWERS WHO ARE NOT PAYING COMPLETE ATTENTION, WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE ROLE OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE OVERSEEING THIS ELECTION, IN PARTICULAR HERE IN MARICOPA COUNTY?
>> WELL, IT'S HARD TO FIGURE -- RICK: IN 45 SECONDS.
>> LONG RUNNING FIGHT BETWEEN SUPERVISORS AND RECORDER JUSTIN HEAP OVER WHO GETS WHICH ELECTION DUTIES, THE SUPERVISOR BEFORE HEAP WAS ELECTED MOVED TO KIND OF TAKE SOME BACK FOR THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
HEAP HAS GONE TO COURT OVER THIS.
A JUDGE RULED THAT THE SUPERVISORS NEED TO GIVE SOME BACK, BUT THAT'S APPEALED.
THE MOST RECENT FIGHT OVER THIS IS OVER DROP BOXES WHICH BOARDS OF SUPERVISORS HAVE LONG DECIDED LOCATIONS OF THESE, A LOT OF MORE MAGA REPUBLICANS DO NOT LIKE THE EXISTENCE OF DROP BOXES AT ALL, AND JUSTIN HEAP POPPED UP AND SAID, HEY, I GET TO DECIDE THIS UNDER THE LAW, AND SO THIS IS -- I THINK NOW HE'S ASKING FOR THE SUPERVISOR TO BE FOUND IN CONTEMPT FOR THIS.
NOT SURE IF IT'S JUST THE DROP BOXES.
EVERY WEEK IT'S SOMETHING NEW.
RICK: GOING BACK TO IF I'M A VOTER, DO I CARE ABOUT ANY OF THAT?
DO I HAVE TO DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT?
>> I DON'T THINK BY AND LARGE ANYTHING IS DIFFERENT.
WAYNE IS TALKING ABOUT ONE NEW LAW WHERE YOU CAN GET EARLY BALLOT COUNTED IN RIGHT AWAY, IF YOU GO THERE.
THERE'S NOT A LOT OF CHANGES FOR THE AVERAGE VOTER OUT THERE.
IF I COULD TAKE A STAB AND SUMMARIZE WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.
IT'S JUST YOUR CLASSIC POWER STRUGGLE OVER THERE BETWEEN THE COUNTY RECORDER AND THE MARICOPA COUNTY BOARD, WHAT'S UNDERLYING ALL THAT STUFF.
RICK: WHICH, BY THE WAY, REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRAT AGAINST REPUBLICANS.
>> YOU CAN LOOK AT IT AS MAGA VERSUS NEVER-TRUMPERS, MAYBE?
>> MORE TRADITIONAL.
>> AND DEBBIE LESKO WHO IS A BIG TRUMP FAN.
IT'S ALL OVER THE PLACE.
>> THERE YOU GO.
THIS IS A BOARD WHO HAS GONE THROUGH YEARS OF BEING ACCUSED OF DOING THE WRONG THING WITH ELECTIONS.
THIS IS A BOARD THAT HAS THAT EXPERIENCE THERE WITH THAT, AND YOU GOT JUSTIN HEAP WHO'S BEEN ELECTED, AND HE CERTAINLY INTRODUCED IN THE LEGISLATURE SOME LEGISLATION THAT WAS KIND OF INSPIRED BY SOME OF THE ELECTION DENIERS AND PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THAT WORLD.
SO THAT'S THE UNDERLYING TONE OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THIS FIGHT.
RICK: ALL RIGHT, THE POLITICAL GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES, WE HAVE THE ACTUAL RACES THEMSELVES.
WE HAVE INTERESTING ONES.
THIS IS JUST THE PRIMARIES.
WHICH RACE ARE YOU MOST INTERESTED IN?
>> GO BACK TO OUR EARLIER CONVERSATION, THE FIGHT OVER WHICH REPUBLICAN TAKES ON KRIS MAYES IS A HUGE ONE.
WE'VE GOT RODNEY GLASSMAN WHO HAS RUN FOR MANY OFFICES IN THE PAST, COME CLOSE BUT NO CIGAR, AND SENATE PRESIDENT WARREN PETERSEN, AND THAT FIGHT RIGHT NOW IS REALLY OVER EXPERIENCE, PETERSEN HAS NOT HAD HIS LAW LICENSE ALL THAT LONG.
NOT REALLY A PRACTICING ATTORNEY BESIDE COLLEGE-LEVEL INTERNSHIP WITH THE SCOTTSDALE CITY PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE, WHEREAS GLASSMAN HAD HIS OFFICE FOR CLOSE TO 20 YEARS.
THERE'S FIGHTS OVER WHO'S MORE QUALIFIED.
THERE'S FIGHTS OVER WHO CAN ACTUALLY DO THE JOB?
PETERSEN SAYS I'M THE SENATE PRESIDENT, OVERSEEN THE AMICUS BRIEFS AND LAWSUITS ON BEHALF OF THE LEGISLATURE.
THIS IS MORE ADMINISTRATIVE POSITION.
IT'S GOING TO BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHICH ONE COMES OUT OF THERE AND WHETHER THIS PRIMARY FIGHT UNDERCUTS THAT WHOEVER COMES OUT OF THE FIGHT WHEN THEY ATTEMPT TO TAKE ON MAYES IN THE FUTURE.
>> GOING TO DO MORE DAMAGE TO EACH OTHER.
>> EXACTLY.
THEY KEEP CALLING EACH OTHER UNQUALIFIED.
ONE OF THE UNQUALIFIED PEOPLE IS GOING TO -- RICK: BY THE WAY, NOW I ENDORSE THAT UNQUALIFIED GUY.
BY THE WAY, DENNIS -- >> I AGREE WITH WAYNE, I'M FASCINATED WITH WATCHING THE A.G.
RACE PLAY OUT.
IF YOU SAW ONE OF THE RECENT DEBATES THEY HAD, THERE WAS A LOT OF MUDSLINGING GOING ON THERE, AND A LOT OF PERSONAL ATTACKS THERE.
I FOUND IT HUMOROUS IT'S ALL ABOUT LEGAL EXPERIENCE, WHEN, YOU KNOW, MR.
PETERSEN HAS ONLY HAD HIS LAW LICENSE FOR THREE YEARS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
GLASSMAN, MOST OF HIS EXPERIENCE IS WITH THE J.A.G.
CORPS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THAT PREPARES HIM TO BE THE A.G., PETERSEN HAS A BIT OF AN ARGUMENT WHEN HE SAYS IT IS MORE MANAGERIAL POSITION THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
YOU ARE MANAGING A BIG OFFICE.
RICK: YOU ARE NOT IN THE COURTROOM.
>> YOU RUN AN ORGANIZATION RIGHT THERE.
I GOT TO TELL YOU I'M INTERESTED IN WATCHING THE SUDDENLY INTERESTING CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT 5 RACE.
HEADING INTO THIS RACE, MARK LAMB -- RICK: AND EXPLAIN WHAT CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT 5 IS.
>> THE EAST VALLEY, MESA, GILBERT.
GOING INTO IT, EVERYBODY THOUGHT MARK LAMB WAS A SHOO-IN.
HAD THE NAME I.D.
AND HAD THE TRUMP ENDORSEMENT.
EVERYBODY THOUGHT IT WAS A CAKE WALK.
INVESTIGATIONS BY "THE ARIZONA REPUBLIC," SERIOUS ALLEGATIONS OF SEXUAL MISCONDUCT, SOME INAPPROPRIATE RACIST JOKES, PERHAPS, ALLEGATIONS, AND NOW POTENTIALLY PEOPLE THINK THIS HAS REALLY PUT THIS RACE IN PLAY, AND THERE'S A MAN OUT THERE, DANIEL KEENAN, A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, TRYING TO TAKE EVERY BIT OF ADVANTAGE OF THIS.
I WOULD STILL THINK THAT THE FORMER SHERIFF HAS STILL THE FRONT-RUNNER OUT THERE.
HE HAS THE TRUMP ENDORSEMENT.
RICK: UNDERSTAND THAT LIKELY WHOEVER WINS THIS PRIMARY WILL ALMOST AUTOMATICALLY BECOME THE REPRESENTATIVE.
>> I WAS GOING TO GET TO THAT TOO, THE WINNER OF THE PRIMARY IS GOING TO HAVE THE SEAT FOR AS LONG AS THEY WANTED BECAUSE THEY'RE REPLACING ANDY BIGGS.
ANDY BIGGS DIDN'T HAVE TO RUN FOR GOVERNOR.
HE COULD HAVE KEPT THAT SEAT FOR AS LONG AS HE WANTED TO.
HE WANTS TO RUN FOR GOVERNOR.
MAYBE HE'S TIRED OF BEING A CONGRESSMAN.
IF YOU'RE A REPUBLICAN IN THAT AREA, AND YOU WIN THIS PRIMARY, YOU ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE SITTING IN THAT POSITION FOR YEARS TO COME.
RICK: SO SPEAKING OF GOVERNOR, ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE, NO PRIMARY, BUT THERE IS AN INTERESTING PRIMARY ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE.
>> NOT SO MUCH, THESE DAYS.
RICK: THERE ARE SIGNS OUT THERE.
>> THERE ARE SIGNS OUT THERE.
I THINK MOST OF US HAVE STOPPED PAYING ATTENTION TO THE IDEA THAT THERE WAS A PRIMARY.
RICK: WHY?
>> DAVID SCHWEIKERT GOT IN FAIRLY LATE IN THE RACE.
IT WAS A SURPRISE TO A LOT OF FOLKS, AND YOU KNOW IT'S GOTTEN A SPLASH IN THERE AND KARRIN TAYLOR ROBSON DROPPED OUT, LEFT IT ONE ON ONE.
SCHWEIKERT HASN'T RAISED A LOT OF MONEY.
YOU HAVEN'T HEARD A LOT OUT OF HIM, AND FEELS LIKE EVERYBODY IS LOOKING AT THE GENERAL ELECTION.
ANDY BIGGS IS LOOKING AHEAD TO THE GENERAL ELECTION.
I HAVEN'T HEARD THE HOBBS CAMPAIGN OR THE DEMOCRATS SPEND TIME GOING AFTER SCHWEIKERT, EVERYONE IS FOCUSED ON BIGGS.
THERE'S NOT A LOT TO WATCH OVER.
I THINK THE BIGGER ACTION IS CD-5, DANIEL KEENAN PUT IN 1.5 MILLION OF HIS OWN MONEY IN THE CAMPAIGN, AND FINDING GOOD USE FOR IT NOW IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS SINCE THE ALLEGATIONS CAME OUT.
HE IS HITTING IT HARD.
LAMB IS LAYING LOW LATELY, AND EXCEEDING THE SPOTLIGHT.
HE'S IN THE SPOTLIGHT IN WAYS HE DOESN'T WANT, AND THE OTHER BIG RACE TO WATCH IS GOING TO BE THE FIRST CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT.
RICK: TO REPLACE SCHWEIKERT.
>> THAT IS BIGGER RAMIFICATIONS OF SCHWEIKERT'S DECISION TO RUN FOR GOVERNOR.
YOU OPEN UP THIS VERY COMPETITIVE -- RICK: ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE AND THE DEMOCRAT SIDE.
MOST OF THE OTHERS WHICH ARE LOPSIDED.
>> SURE, VERY COMPETITIVE SEATS, PIVOTAL, IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE EITHER PARTY CONTROLLING CONGRESS WITHOUT WINNING CD-1.
YOU HAVE HOTLY CONTESTED PRIMARIES ON BOTH SIDES.
THIS IS ONE VOTERS NOTICE MORE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY.
WHEN VOTERS NOTICE WHAT'S ON THE TV WHEN THE GAME GOES TO COMMERCIAL BREAK, IT'S GOING TO BE ADS FOR BOTH PRIMARIES AND BOTH PARTIES HAVE PICKED CANDIDATES IN THE CONTESTED PRIMARIES.
NOT UNUSUAL AND NOT UNHEARD OF.
RICK: WHO ARE THE CANDIDATES WHO THEORETICALLY THE PARTIES HAVE BACKED?
>> ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE, DONALD TRUMP ENDORSED LAMB AND SAID JAY FEELY, FIND A NEW DISTRICT AND JOSEPH CHAPLIK, WHO MOST PEOPLE AGREE IS THE MUCH MORE MAGA CANDIDATE, BUT TRUMP ENDORSED FEELY, THE NATIONAL REPUBLICAN COMMITTEE FOLLOWED SUIT AND LINED UP BEHIND FEELY.
THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE, SEVERAL CANDIDATES, TWO FRONT-RUNNERS LOOK LIKE THE TWO FRONT-RUNNERS FROM TWO YEARS AGO, AMISH SHAH WHO LOST TO SWAUKT AND MARLENE GOLAN WOODS AND DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE BACKED HER AS WELL.
AND I THINK THESE GROUPS ARE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO SPEND MUCH MONEY, IF ANY MONEY, FOR PREFERRED CANDIDATES, WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS SENDING A SIGNAL TO OUTSIDE GROUPS TO BIG DONORS, SAY THIS IS THE PERSON TO BACK, THIS IS THE PERSON WE WANT IN THE GENERAL ELECTION, AND I THINK YOU'LL SEE THE ADS BLOWING UP ON TV SOON.
>> TAKING A DEEP RISK, MAKING MARLENE WOODS IN THAT RACE.
AMISH SHAH COULD VERY WELL WIN THE PRIMARY.
>> THE RELENTLESS DOOR KNOCKER.
>> WHAT HAPPENS?
TALK ABOUT EGG ON YOUR FACE AND LITTLE EMBARRASSMENT.
WHAT HAPPENS AT THAT POINT.
RICK: YOU SWIVEL.
>> THAT PLAYS INTO THE INTRIGUE AND WHY IT'S ONE OF THE RACES TO WATCH, AND YOU GET INTO THE REPUBLICAN SIDE OF THAT CD-1 RACE.
DONALD TRUMP'S GOLDEN PICK, DOES HE STILL HAVE THE MAGIC HERE IN ARIZONA THROUGHOUT THIS PRIMARY SEASON.
WE'VE SHOWN WITH ONE EXCEPTION IN IOWA, HE HAS A TIGHT GRIP ON THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, WHEN HE PICKS A CANDIDATE, THEY WIN THAT PRIMARY, IS THAT GOING TO HOLD IN ARIZONA?
WE'LL FIND OUT IN THE CD-1 RACE.
RICK: ONE OF THE GOALS OF THE CANDIDATES IS TO REPRESENT US AT THE STATE LEGISLATURE.
TALK ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE STATE LEGISLATURE.
LOOKING THROUGH THE USUAL COLLECTION OF BILLS.
SOMETHING SLIPPED OUT AT ME.
SOME WENT THROUGH WITH UNANIMOUS SUPPORT.
BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE VOTING FOR THEM.
I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING AND CAN WE TALK ABOUT SOME OF THOSE.
>> FOR THOSE THAT COVER THE LEGISLATURE ON A DAILY BASIS, THIS HAPPENS MORE THAN YOU THINK, THERE ARE BILLS THAT GO THROUGH WITH BIPARTISAN SUPPORT BUT NOT THE HIGH-PROFILE ONCE.
THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE WITH ONE OF THE BILLS WHICH HAS TO DO WITH GETTING RID OF SQUATTERS, A PROBLEM PEOPLE COMPLAINED ABOUT FOR A LONG TIME.
RICK: AND THE LAW PASSED BY THE LEGISLATURE WOULD MAKE IT EASIER FOR LANDLORDS TO GET SOMEONE WHO STAYS ON THE PROPERTY?
>> THEY ARE STAYING IN THE HOME AND REFUSES TO LEAVE, UNDER THE CURRENT PROCESS IT CAN TAKE UPWARDS OF TWO WEEKS TO GET RID OF SOMEONE.
THIS WOULD STREAMLINE IT DOWN TO A FEW DAYS.
REASON IT GOT THE BIPARTISAN SUPPORT IS IT'S LOCKED IN ON SOMEONE WHO OWNS A PROPERTY AND SOMEONE WHO IS IN THERE WHO ISN'T SUPPOSED TO BE THERE, NOT A SITUATION WHERE SOMEONE LIVED THERE UNDER A LEASE, DIDN'T PAY RENT AND YOU WANT TO GET RID OF THEM.
THAT'S WHY YOU SAW DEMOCRATS GET ON BOARD, GOVERNOR KATIE HOBBS, WE HAVE EVICTIONS CRISIS IN THIS COUNTY, A LOT TO DO WITH PEOPLE WHO CAN'T PAY RENT, AND I DON'T THINK DEMOCRATS WANTED TO GO AFTER THOSE PEOPLE.
IF YOU GO AFTER PEOPLE BREAKING INTO A HOME AND SQUATTING THERE, EVERYONE GOT ON BOARD.
RICK: ANOTHER AREA GETTING ATTENTION WITH KUMBAYA IS HOAs.
>> WHAT'S MORE BIPARTISAN THAN HATING HOAs.
A COUPLE HOA BILLS HAVE GONE THROUGH WITH UNANIMOUS SUPPORT, THE WORDING IS THAT THE HOA BOARDS HAVE TO ACT IN A NEUTRAL AND FAIR MANNER.
RICK: TREAT THE MEMBERS FAIR.
>> A LOT TO UNPACK THERE.
YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF LITIGATION AND INDIVIDUAL CASES ASKING THE JUDGE TO SAY, WHAT EXACTLY DOES THAT MEAN?
RICK: THAT WAS THE CASE LAW, NOW THEY'RE PUTTING IT INTO LAW, AND ANOTHER ONE DEALING WITH SHADES IN BACKYARDS, CORRECT?
>> YOU GOT TO HAVE SHADE IN THE BACKYARD, FROM A PERSON WHO HAD HER HOA TELL HER TO TAKE DOWN A PERGOLA OR SOMETHING IN THE BACKYARD AND SHE HAPPENS TO KNOW A STATE REPRESENTATIVE AND SAID THIS IS A PROBLEM.
RICK: THIS IS ARIZONA.
>> HOW CAN YOU TELL PEOPLE NOT TO PUT UP A SHADE STRUCTURE IN THE BACKYARD.
RICK: REAL QUICKLY, SHORT ON TIME HERE.
THE OTHER 64,000-POUND GORRIL AT LEGISLATURE NEEDS TO DEAL WITH IS THE BUDGET.
WE TALKED ABOUT IT ON THE ROUNDTABLE LAST WEEK, WE'RE A WEEK LATER.
ANY HOPE ON THAT?
>> TRY TO MOVE SOMETHING NEXT WEEK.
WE HAVE THE JULY 1 DEADLINE THAT IS STARTING TO BECOME A REALITY.
I HEARD THEY ARE GOING TO TRY TO MOVE SOMETHING FORWARD NEXT WEEK.
I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF DETAILS AS ONE OF MY SOURCES TOLD ME, ONE OF THE HANG-UPS WAS THE EXTENSION OF PROPOSITION 123, THE EDUCATION FUNDING SOURCE.
I'M TOLD THAT IS PROBABLY DEAD AND NOT GOING TO HAPPEN THIS YEAR, MAYBE NEXT YEAR.
>> THINK ABOUT A MONTH AGO WHEN BUDGET TALKS RESTARTED, SENATE PRESIDENT PETERSEN TOLD ME WE ARE 90% OF THE WAY THERE.
TWO WEEKS AGO SAYING SENATE PRESIDENT PETERSEN SAYS 97% THERE, YESTERDAY IT WAS 99%.
WE'VE MADE PROGRESS, BUT HE ACKNOWLEDGED THE LAST 1% IS TRICKY, JOHN KAVANAGH SAID IT COULD HAPPEN AS SOON AS NEXT WEEK.
AS LONG AS THEY RESOLVE A COUPLE MAJOR ISSUES WHICH WERE NOT BIG MONEY ISSUES OR ALL FALL APART.
WHICH WE'VE SEEN HAPPEN.
RICK: 15 SECONDS LEFT.
>> IF NOT NEXT WEEK, I'M CONFIDENT LIKE IN PREVIOUS YEARS WE'LL GET IT DONE BEFORE THE JULY 1 DEADLINE.
RICK: YOU THINK WE WILL MAKE THE JULY 1 DEADLINE?
>> YEAH, OR THROW A BLANKET OVER A CLOCK IF IT PASSES MIDNIGHT AND FINISH THE NEGOTIATIONS A FEW HOURS INTO JULY.
RICK: GENTLEMEN, APPRECIATE IT.
JEREMY, WAYNE, DENNIS, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
THAT WILL DO IT FOR THIS EDITION OF "ARIZONA HORIZON," I'M RICK DEBRUHL FILLING IN FOR TED SIMONS.
TED IS BACK NEXT WEEK.
UNTIL THEN, HAVE GREAT WEEKEND.
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