THE GOVERNOR'S STAFF IS CERTAINLY APART OF THAT RIGHT NOW.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET SOME CONTEXT.

THIS TAX GOES BACK TO 1985 IT'S APPROVED BY THE VOTERS HAS TO BE RENEWED EVERY 20 YEARS SO IT'S ALREADY BEEN RENEWED IN THE PAST.

WHAT'S BEING DISCUSSED NOW IS MODIFYING SOME OF THE PROVISIONS.

SO, HOW WE MENTIONED ONE THAT THERE COULD BE A TIPLATION THAT MONEY CAN'T GO TOWARDS EXPANDING THE LIGHT RAIL, WE HAVE SOME PRETTY STRONG OPPONENTS THERE.

THERE'S ALSO I MEAN, PROBABLY THERE'S A LOT OF ANCILLARY BATTLES AROUND STIPULATIONS ON HOW THIS TAX CONDITIONAL CAN BE USED BUT THE CENTRAL BATTLE IS OVER WHAT PERCENTAGE WILL GO TOWARDS MASS TRANSIT SO THAT CAN BE 33% IT'S GOING TO BE 40% SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE A DIFFERENT NUMBER.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REALLY ARGUING RIGHT NOW.

THEY ARE QUESTIONING WHETHER THEY CAN GET TO A NUMBER THAT THEY CAN BE OK WITH.

TO ELIMINATE THE ABILITY OF WITH SOME WOULD BEDDING CHANGES WITH RENTERS AREN'T DOUBLE BILLED IN EXCHANGE FOR PROP 4 BILL IN THIS CASE WE HAVE A GOVERNOR WHO OUR NEW VETO QUEEN HERE AT 111 VETOES WHO SAYS I GOT THIS BIG RED STAMP HERE AND I'M READY TO USE IT UNLESS YOU GIVE ME WHAT I WANT.

SO, WHAT IS THIS SESSION GOING TO LOOK LIKE NEXT WEEK.

JUST GOING TO BE WE COME BACK IN AND GO ON FOREVER OR DO WE PRETTY MUCH KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN TERMS OF A ONE OR TWO OR THREE DAY ALMOST LIKE AN OLD SPECIAL SESSION?

>> WE KNOW IT WILL BE MONDAY I'M TOLD THEY WILL BE BACK THERE ON TUESDAY ACCEPTS THESE HOUSING BILLS GET OUT OF THE HOUSE BE SET TO GO FOR A VOTE IN THE SENATE.

>> HOW MUCH CAN THERE REALLY BE FOR THEM DO AFTER THEY'VE BEEN IN SESSION FOR SIX MONTHS.

I MEAN MONDAY, TUESDAY YOU VOTE FOR THE SMALL NUMBER OF BILLS YOU GET THE HOUSING STUFF OUT OF THERE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, ON THE HOUSE FLOOR AND SENATE FLOOR.

PRESIDENT PETERSON I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE THEM THERE MORE THAN A COUPLE DAYS UNLESS SOMETHING THIS IS PROBLEM THOSE OF US WHO HAVE BEEN AROUND A WHILE KNOW THERE'S ALWAYS FUNNY THINGS THAT POP UP AT THE END THREE OF SESSION.

GOING HOME BILLS.

WE KNOW THERE ARE AT LEAST TWO THINGS THEY WANT TO PUT ON THE BALLOT.

ONE THEY WANT TO MAKE IT HARDER FOR PEOPLE TO PROPOSE THEIR OWN LAWS GOD FORBID THAT ANYBODY BUT THE LEGISLATURE CRAFTS THEIR OWN LAWS.

NUMBER TWO THEY WANT TO SAY THAT NEXT TIME A GOVERNOR DECLARES AN EMERGENCY THAT AFTER SEVEN DAYS THE EMERGENCY GOES AWAY UNLESS YOU GET LEGISLATIVE APPROVAL AND THAT HAS ALL SORTS OF IMPLICATIONS THE EMERGENCY IS NOT OVER WHEN THE FLOODING STOPS.

IT HAS TO DO WITH GETTING FEDERAL AID.

WE HAVE EMERGENCIES THAT HAVE BEEN OPEN FOR 30 YEARS BECAUSE THE FACT THAT WE'RE STILL GETTING REIMBURSED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

THEY WANT TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT.

>> GO AHEAD?

>> ONE OTHER THING IF I COULD, SOMETHING ELSE I THINK WE'LL SEE NEXT WEEK THAT IS ALSO NOTABLE IS KEN BENNETT SAYS HE WILL BRING BACK IN THE FORM OF A COUPLE AMENDMENTS MOST OF THE MAIN PROVISIONS OF THE ELECTIONS BILL THAT HE RAN EARLIER THIS YEAR.

YOU FOLKS WILL REMEMBER THAT BENNETT WHO IS A VERY EXPERIENCED LAWMAKER AND FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE HIMSELF, HAD A BILL THAT HE SAID WOULD HAVE ALLOWED FOR ESSENTIALLY A DO IT YOURSELF AUDIT.

HE SAYS FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO DON'T HAVE CONFIDENCE IN ARIZONA'S ELECTIONS PROPERTY VISIONS HERE ARE GOING TO LET YOU FROM HOME COUNT THE VOTES YOURSELF TO THE POINT THAT YOU'RE CONFIDENT WITH OUR RESULTS.

NOW, HE PUSHED A BILL THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE WITH I WANT TO SAY THERE WERE THREE DEMOCRATIC VOTES AND BOTH CHAMBERS COMBININGED MOSTLY PARTISAN.

KATIE HOBS VETOED IT.

HE WILL TAKE TWO OF THE PROVISIONS THE FIRST TO MAKE THE BALLOT IMAGES PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE, AND THE EXPECTED TO MAKE THE CAST VOTE RECORD PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE SLAP THEM ON AS AMENDMENTS TO A SEPARATE BILL THAT HE'S RUNNING HE SAYS HE'S GOT THE VOTES TO MOVE THAT THROUGH.

>> PIMA COUNTY DEMOCRATIC COMMITTEE WENT AHEAD IF SUPPORTED THE IDEA OF BALLOT TRANSPARENCY.

EVEN THEY RECOGNIZE SO LONG PEOPLE ARE SAYING OR BELIEVING THAT THERE'S MORE BEING SHOVELED BY SOME THAT THE WHOLE THING IS RIGGED AND THAT EVERYBODY IS OUT TO GET CAREY LAKE AND MARK, AND ABE IF PEOPLE ARE CONFIDENT IN THE SYSTEM THEY'RE LESS LIKELY TO BUY INTO THIS.

>> LET'S DO A LITTLE SEGUE.

BECAUSE MOJAVE COUNTY THIS PAST WEEK THE SUPERVISORS APPROVED THE IDEA OF COMING UP WITH A PLAN TO DO A HAND COUNT FOR ALL THEIR BALLOTS.

IS THAT GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT, WE'VE ALREADY GOT THE SECRETARY OF STATE ADRIAN FONTEZ SAYING WE THINK THAT'S PROBABLY ILLEGAL.

>> SURE, WE SAW THEM TRYING TO DO SOMETHING SIMILAR LAST YEAR WHICH THE COURT DID SAY WAS ILLEGAL AND LAD LED TO DRAMA AND HAVING TO PAY HER A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THE HOUSEHOLD WORKPLACE.

THIS INFATUATION WITH HAND COUNTING WE SEE GOING BACK TO THE 2020 ELECTION.

WHERE PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE ESPECIALLY THE MAGA CROWD DOES NOT TRUST THESE MACHINES.

NOW THE MACHINES IF YOU TALK TO ANY ELECTION OFFICIAL THEY'LL TELL YOU THEY ARE VERY RELIABLE THESE THINGS ARE TESTED OVER AND OVER AGAIN THEY DO TESTING BEFORE AND AFTER EVERY ELECTION.

THEY COMPARE IT TO A PARTIAL HAND COUNT AND IN EVERY COUNTY.

BUT THERE'S PEOPLE WHO WANT TO GET RID OF THE MACHINES ALTOGETHER SOME OF THOSE WERE AT THE MOW MOJAVE URGING THEM TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PLAN.

NOW, AS SECRETARY POINTED OUT IF THEY DO, SOMEONE WILL GET SUED IT'S GOING TO BE THEM AND IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE SECRETARY BECAUSE STATE LAW SAYS YOU HAVE TO COUNT THESE WITH MACHINES.

NOW, THEY MAY TRY TO FIND SOME KIND OF LOOPHOLE WHERE THEY CAN ALSO DO A HAND COUNT WHICH I BELIEVE IS WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO.

DO THE MOUNTAIN COUNTS THEN A SEPARATE HAND COUNT TO VALIDATE THAT.

SO WE DON'T EXACTLY KNOW WHAT THE PLAN IS.

IT'S A PLAN TO HAVE A PLAN RIGHT NOW AND ONCE THEY ASK, THE PLAN MAY TAKE A WHILE WE HAVE TO SO WHAT THEY COME UP WITH BUT I EXPECT TO BE TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR A WHILE TO COME.

>> THIS IS GETTEL FUELED AGAIN BY THE QUESTIONS WE HAD CERTAINLY IN MARICOPA COUNTY NOT IN TERMS OF EARLY BALLOTS AND THE SIGNATURES BUT SOME DISCLOSURES THIS WEEK.

REMEMBER MARICOPA COUNTY DID AN INVESTIGATION I'LL USE THE TERM VERY LOOSELY OF WHAT WENT WRONG WITH THE PRINTERS AND THE TABULATEORS.

THEY SAID WELL, GEE THE PRINTERS WEREN'T PRINTING AND THE TABULATEDDERS WEREN'T READING THEM.

WELL, COME TO FIND OUT THEY BLAMED DATA THE PEOPLE WHO PRODUCED THE PRINTEDDERS AND THE PEOPLE SAID WAIT A SECOND, THERE ARE FIXES AVAILABLE.

WE TOLD WHAT YOU SIZE PAPER TO USE.

SO AS LONG AS THIS KIND OF STUFF OCCURS PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY WHY SHOULD WE TRUST THE MACHINERY, WHY SHOULD WE TRUST THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PROGRAMMING THE MACHINERY.

>> LET'S GET BACK TO THE STATE.

WE TALKED BRIEFLY ABOUT HOBS VETOES WHICH THOSE ARE BIG POSSIBILITY OF COMING UP BUT THERE WAS A BIG THING THAT HAPPENED THIS WEEK AS WELL WHICH IS THE SENATE COMMITTEE, WHICH LOOKS AT APPROVING WHAT THE NOMINEES FOR VARIOUS AGENCIES ACTUALLY APPROVED ONE THIS WEEK.

EXPLAIN THAT, NICK TALK ABOUT THAT.

>> THAT'S RIGHT, SO I THINK THIS IS, YOU KNOW, EARLIER THIS YEAR THE SENATE COMMITTEE ON DIRECTOR NOMINATIONS MADE BIG HEADLINES AS AN UNPRECEDENTED MOVE FOR THE SENATE TO CREATE A NEW COMMITTEE JUST FOR THIS AND YOU KNOW THEY DIDN'T DISAPPOINT IN TERMS OF REALLY GIVING A HARD TIME TO A LOT OF THE GOVERNOR'S NOMINEES AND REJECTING SOME OF THEM.

BUT I THINK THIS WEEK WAS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT NOMINEE THAT'S GONE BEFORE THE COMMITTEE YET.

SO THIS IS RYAN THE NEW DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS WHICH -- DIRECTOR OF REHABILITATION AND REENTRY.

[LAUGHTER] >> NOT JUST CORRECTION.

>> GOOD POINT.

AND HE WOULD HAVE CORRECTED ME IF HE WAS HERE AS WELL.

BUT THE IMPORTANT POINT IS THAT HE OVERSEES THE STATE'S PRISON SYSTEM AND THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT THIS DEPARTMENT IS ONE OF THE MOST TROUBLED IN THE STATE.

EVERYONE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE AGREES THAT THERE'S A SERIOUS NEED FOR REFORM AND GOVERNOR HOBBS BROUGHT HIM IN FROM MAINE WHERE HE HAD BEEN WORKING TO COME OVER HERE TO ARIZONA AND TRY TO TURN THIS THING AROUND.

SO I THINK IF THE SENATE WERE TO REJECT HIM THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN GROUND SHAKING BECAUSE THEY MIGHT HAVE HAD TO SAY WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU COME IN HERE WITH YOUR IDEAS TO TURN THIS AROUND WE DON'T LIKE THE WAY YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A HARDER PILL TO SWALLOW THAN REJECTING SAY HER NOMINEE FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND SERVICES LIKE THEY DID EARLIER THIS YEAR.

>> COMPARISON TO THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES AND WHAT THEY DID THE PROBABLE TOE LOGICAL EXAM THAT THEY DID THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE NEVER PREPPED HER.

HE NOT ONLY DID PREP HER FOR THE QUESTIONS THEY NEVER PREPPED THE DEMOCRATS AND THE COMMITTEE TO KNOW WHAT TO ASK HER.

THEY'VE GOTTEN A LOT SMARTER LATELY SO THEY CLEARLY PREPPED AND KNEW WHAT THE QUESTIONS WERE THEY HAD THE DEMOCRATS ASKING THE TOUGH QUESTIONS.

FOR EXAMPLE THORNLE WAS PART OF THE REASON WE DIDN'T EXECUTE EARLIER THIS YEAR DESPITE A SUPREME COURT WARRANT FOR HIS EXECUTION BECAUSE HE WENT IN AND SAID WE'RE NOT READY, WE'RE NOT SURE THE CHEMICALS WORK WE'RE NOT SURE WE HAVE THE PEOPLE.

SO THE BIG QUESTION THAT NEEDS TO BE ASKED OF HIM OTHER THAN CAN YOU MOVE FROM A 1600 PRISON FACILITY YOU KNOW PERSON FACILITY TO A 40,000 IS ARE YOU READY TO DO THIS?

DO YOU OPPOSE THE DEATH PENALTY, WILL YOU CARRY IT OUT AND ARE YOU READY?

>> HE SAID I AM READY WE'VE SOLVED THE QUESTIONS AND TAKE A WHAT THE REPUBLICANS WANTED.

TOGETHER WITH THE FACT HE SAID HE WAS READY TO DO EXECUTIONS WHICH IS A KEY THING.

IT'S NOT JUST ARE WE TECHNICALLY READY, ARE YOU WILLING AND THAT'S THE DIFFERENT ISSUE.

WE'RE ALMOST OUT OF TIME.

BUT WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT RACHEL MITCHELL, THIS WEEK, HAD BIT OF AN ISSUE WHEN YOU KNOW SHE'S THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND, OF COURSE, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO SHE SAID THAT MAYBE IT WAS TIME TO GO AFTER THE LEGAL TEAM TO PAY FOR SOME OF THE EXPENSES AND COSTS OF THE COURT BATTLE AND THE ARIZONA REPUBLICAN PARTY, THIS WEEK, WENT AFTER HER.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT?

>> OF COURSE THEY DID.

MARICOPA COUNTY REPUBLICAN HER, I THINK, BUT THEY WENT AFTER TO HER FOR TRYING TO GET LAKE AND HER ATTORNEYS SANCTIONED IN A COMPLETELY GROUNDLESS CASE.

YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER RACHEL MITCHELL REPRESENTS CLIENTS, THOSE CLIENTS ARE THE ONES WHO ARE GOING TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS.

NOBODY WANTS THEIR LAWYER GOING ROGUE AND MAKING THESE DECISIONS WITHOUT THEM YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW YOUR CLIENT'S ADVICE.

I THINK THEY PROBABLY SANCTIONED EVERY OTHER REPUBLICAN WHO REPRESENTS MARICOPA COUNTY AT THE COUNTY LEVEL AT THIS POINT.

>> AND SOME FEDERAL AS WELL.

[LAUGHTER] SPECIAL IRE FOR THE MARICOPA COUNTY REPUBLICANS.

YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, THE JUDGE DISAGREED THAT THIS CASE, THAT CAREY LAKE'S -- CARRIE LAKE'S CASE WAS GROUND TO THE POINT THAT SANCTIONS WERE WARRANTEDDED.

THEY DID GET BEAT DOWN PRETTY HARD BY THE COURT.

THEY REJECTED HER CASE THE ONE PART THAT HAD BEEN SENT BACK DOWN BY THE SUPREME COURT AFTER THEY TOSSED SIX, SEVENNINGS IT A, NINE OTHER ARGUMENTS.

SO THIS IS JUST KIND OF THE ONGOING FOR ANYONE WHO DARES TO CHALLENGE THIS NARRATIVE THAT THE ELECTIONS WERE RIGGED THAT MARICOPA COUNTY IS SABOTAGING REPUBLICANS SOMEHOW AND EVEN IF HE GOES AFTER, THAT HAS BECOME THAT ORTHODOXY IS SUSPECT.

>> 30 SECONDS, I MEAN, HOW DO WE GET, HOW DOES THE REPUBLICAN PARTY GET PASSED WHAT IS BASICALLY A DYSFUNCTIONAL GROUP IN TIME FOR THE NEXT ELECTION?

>> THIS IS AN INTERPARTY BATTLE THIS IS A GO TO ATTACK WE WILL KEN CURE YOU.

-- CENSURE YOU.

FAR FROM THE FIRST WON'T BE SNROOFT THIS HAS TO DO THAT LAKE IS HOLDING HER HEAD OUT AS THE HEAD OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

>> THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN WE GET TO TALK TO IT FOR WEEKS AND WEEKS.

HOWIE FISCHER FROM CAPITAL MEDIA SERVICES AND I'M IN FOR TED SIGH SIMONS WHO BE WILL BACK NEXT WEEK.

HAVE YOURSELF A GREAT WEEKEND.

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