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[MUSIC].

>> Brandon: A JUDGE RULED TIME ROKITA BROKE THE LAW.

ROKITA FILE SUIT AGAINST TIK-TOK.

PLUS, INDIANA'S ABORTION BAN ALL THAT AGAIN , AND MORE.

FROM THE TELEVISION STUDIOS AT WFYI, IT IS INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW FOR THE WEEK ENDING DECEMBER 9, 2022.

>> INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE SUPPORTERS OF INDIANA PUBLIC BROADCASTING STATIONS.

>> Brandon: THIS WEEK, I COUNTY JUDGE RULED THAT INDIANA ATTORNEY GENERAL TODD ROKITA VIOLATED STATE LAW , BREAKING CONFIDENTIALITY AND'S OFFICE INVESTIGATION OF DOCTOR CAITLIN BERNARD HEARD BUT THE JUDGE ALSO DENIED BERNARD'S REQUEST TO PUT A HALT TO ROKITA'S INVESTIGATION.

>> RECORDS SHOW THAT DOCTOR BERNARD FILE THE PROPER PAPERWORK AFTER PROVIDING ABORTION TO A 10-YEAR-OLD OHIO GIRL AND COOPERATED WITH AUTHORITIES INVESTIGATING HER BREAK.

BUT, ATTORNEY GENERAL TODD ROKITA WENT ON CABLE TV AND ACCUSED BERNARD ABOUT BREAKING THE LAW WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE AND THREATENING TO REVOKE HER MEDICAL LICENSE.

SINCE THEN, ROKITA'S OFFICE WANTS TO INVESTIGATION A BERNARD BASED ON CONSUMER COMPLAINTS.

MARION COUNTY JUDGE HEATHER WELCH SAID ROKITA BROKE THE LAW BY PUBLICLY DISCUSSING THE INVESTIGATION BEFORE'S OFFICE FILED AN OFFICIAL COMPLAINT WITH THE INDIANA MEDICAL LICENSING BOARD.

THAT OFFICIAL COMPLAINT WAS FILED LAST WEEK AND JUDGE WELSH DENIED BERNARD'S REQUEST TO HALT THE INVESTIGATION BECAUSE THE ISSUE IS NOW IN LICENSING BOARDS HANSFORD WILL ROKITA FACE ANY REPERCUSSIONS FOR APPARENTLY BREAKING THE LAW?

IT IS THE FIRST QUESTION FOR OUR INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW PANEL.

DEMOCRAT ANN DELANEY, REPUBLICAN MIKE O'BRIEN , JON SCHWANTES POSTED INDIANA LAWMAKERS AND NIKI KELLY, INDIANA AND CHIEF OF THE INDIANA CAPITAL CHRONICLE.

I AM INDIANA PUBLIC BROADCASTING PLAYHOUSE BUREAU CHIEF BRANDON SMITH.

ANN DELANEY, BURNOUT HAS NOW DROPPED THIS LAWSUIT SINCE THE CASE HAS SHIFTED.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR ROKITA?

>> Ann: FULL DISCLOSURE, MY DAUGHTER IS THE ATTORNEY FOR DOCTOR BERNARD.

WHAT THIS MEANS FOR MY POINT OF VIEW LOOKING AT THE JUDGES AND READING THE JUDGE'S OPINION, ROKITA OUGHT TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT HIS OWN LICENSE , NOT DOCTOR BERNARD'S LICENSE.

THERE ARE DISCIPLINARY COMPLAINTS PENDING AGAINST HIM FOR A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT REASONS , AND NOW YOU HAVE A JUDGE THAT IS DETERMINED ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS , THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE STATE OF INDIANA BROKE THE LAW .

IN ADDITION TO THAT, SHE FOUND THAT DOCTOR BERNARD HAS SUFFERED IRREPARABLE HARM PER SE.

THAT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE IF THERE IS ANY OTHER LITIGATION RESULTING FROM THIS.

HIS BIGGEST PROBLEM IS NOT ONLY BREAK THE LAW CONFIDENTIALITY , SHE ALSO ADDRESSED THE FACT THAT SOMEBODY IN HIS OFFICE , WHETHER IT WAS HIM OR ONE OF HIS EMPLOYEES CHANGED THE CAPTION ON ONE OF THE COMPLAINTS.

SHE DID NOT FIND ON THAT BECAUSE WE GET DISMISSED BEFORE HIM, THE FACT OF THE MATTER WAS IT WAS A COMPLETE AGAINST AN ENTITY .

THEY HAVE NO JURISDICTION THERE, THEY CHANGED THE DOCTORS NAME TO CREATE JURISDICTION WHICH IS PERILOUSLY CLOSE TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE FILING A COMPLAINT ON HIS OWN, WHICH IS ELSE AGAIN PROHIBITED FROM DOING.

WE HAVE MULTIPLE COUNTS OF THE HIGHEST LEGAL OFFICER OF THE STATE OF INDIANA BREAKING THE LAW, AND YOU DISCIPLINARY COMPLAINTS PENDINGI HOPE YOU TAKE ACTION, BECAUSE HE DESERVES IT .

>> Brandon: TODD ROKITA STATEMENT TO THE PRESS AFTER THIS RULING WAS, HE CALLED IT A MAJOR VICTORY.

THE JUDGE DID NOT ISSUE THE INJUNCTION BECAUSE THE VENUE IS NOT THE MEDICAL LICENSING BOARD.

IS THAT A TYPICAL CASE OF SPENDING A RESULT, OR DOES IT COME OFF A LITTLE TONE DEAF?

[LAUGHTER].

>> Ann: HOW DO YOU EVEN ANSWER THAT?

>> Mike: THIS REPREHENSIBLE ACT AND HORRIFIC SITUATION , LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW YOU ANSWER SOMETHING LIKE THIS POLITICALLY.

SLOW DOWN, GIVE IT A MINUTE.

ALL OF THESE MISTAKES AND ALLEGED VIOLATIONS ARE THE RESULT OF TRYING TO GET IN FRONT OF THE CAMERA AS FAST AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE TO POLITICIZE A 10-YEAR-OLD GETTING RAPED AND BEING PREGNANT.

WHICH AGAIN, LOOKING BACK AT IT AT THE TIME WAS INSANE.

UN MEMBERS OF CONGRESS FROM NOWHERE NEAR INDIANA OR OHIO THAT WERE IMMEDIATELY ON IT, TWEETING ABOUT IT, DID SHE EVEN EXIST?THE CONSUMER COMPLAINTS ON BOTH AND, THE SPEED WITH WHICH YOU ARE TRYING TO POLITICIZE A DELICATE TOPIC IS WHAT CREATED SOME OF HIS MISSTEPS.

IT IS ALL SOLVED IF YOU JUST GIVE IT A SECOND, FIND OUT WHAT IS REAL, WHAT IS NOT, AND EXERCISE THE AUTHORITY OF YOUR OFFICE FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONSUMER PROTECTION .

>> Ann: HE IS NOT EXERCISING HIS AUTHORITY, HE IS USING IT FOR HIS OWN POLITICAL GAIN .

>> Brandon: IN TERMS OF CONSEQUENCES FOR THE ATTORNEY GENERAL FOR BREAKING THE LAW, WHETHER REAL CONSEQUENCE OR POLITICAL PERCEIVED CONSEQUENCES, OR BOTH .

DOES IT FEEL LIKE SO MUCH OF THIS WILL HINGE ON WHAT THE STATE MEDICAL LICENSING BOARD DOES?

IF THEY RULE FOR ROKITA, A LOT OF THIS SEEMS RESULT FROM HIS PERSPECTIVE BUT THEY RULE FOR DOCTOR BERNARD, HE MIGHT BE IN A LOT MORE TROUBLE BECAUSE HE CAME TO NOTHING ?

>> I AM SURE THAT THE LICENSING BOARD'S DECISION WILL HAVE A BIG IMPACT, NO DOUBT.

IT MIGHT NOT BE THE FINAL BOARD, IS IT NOT APPEALABLE?

IT IS INTERESTING THAT THE JUDGE UNDERSTATED BE SAID THIS IS NO LONGER MY PURVIEW, IT IS BEFORE THE LICENSING BOARD.

I AM RUBBING MY HANDS OF IT, YOU TAKE IT OVER IT.

DEPENDING ON THE OUTCOME AND WHO MAY CHOOSE TO APPEAL THE OUTCOME OF THAT REGULATORY BODY, IT MIGHT WELL BE BACK.

NOT NECESSARILY IN JUDGE WELCH COURT, BUT IT COULD BE BACK IN CHILD COURT IN MARION COUNTY.

LET'S NOT ASSUME THAT A, THAT IS THE FINAL WORD.

THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE AN IMPACT ON WHAT REPERCUSSIONS, IF ANY, THAT TODD ROKITA MY FACE IN TERMS OF HIS LAW LICENSE WITH THE SUPREME COURT DISCIPLINARY COMMISSION, WHICH I PRESUME IS THE RECIPIENT OF SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT AND ALLUDED TO.

I SUPPOSE IT IS NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION , IF YOU WANT TO GET SOME INQUIRY GOING, COULD YOU NOT HAVE MARION COUNTY WHERE CRIMES INVOLVING STATE GOVERNMENT AS A CAPITAL CITY, YOU COULD HAVE A DEMOCRATIC PROSECUTOR, JUST A SUGGESTION , IN MARION COUNTY THAT BRINGS CHARGES .

>> Brandon: I DON'T THINK IT IS POSSIBLE TO - - THAT RELATIONSHIP .TO THE DISCIPLINARY PROCESS, THERE COMPLAINT THAT WE HAVE HEARD ABOUT THAT HAVE BEEN ALLEGED AGAINST TODD ROKITA SURROUNDING THE SITUATION FOR A WHILE NOW.

WE HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT ANY OF THEM.

DOES THIS FEEL LIKE IT WILL KICKSTART IT A LITTLE MORE WHEN YOU HAVE A RULING LIKE THIS?

>> Niki: I DON'T KNOW.

WE KNOW PEOPLE FILE, LIKABLE FILED AGAINST DOCTOR BERNARD ALLEGATIONS.

BUT, THERE IS A FORMAL COMPLAINT PENDING AGAINST HIM YET.

THE BOARD INVESTIGATE AND DECIDE IF IT RISES TO THE LEVEL OF A VIOLATION.

I DO WANT TO POINT OUT ONE THING THAT WE ARE MISSING A LITTLE BIT.

YES, HIS LICENSE IS DEFINITELY AT ISSUE, BUT ALSO, LET'S NOT FORGET THAT DOCTOR BERNARD FILED A CLAIM ON DEFAMATION MONTHS AGO.

SHE HAS A YEAR TO FILE A DEFAMATION CASE.

SHE MAY NOW HAS A RULING FROM A JUDGE SAYING THAT HE IRREPARABLY HARMED HER THAT IS THE BASIS FOR DEFAMATION COME IF I HAVE EVER HEARD IT .

SPEAKING OF TODD ROKITA, INDIAN HAS FILED TWO LAWSUITS AGAINST SOCIAL MEDIA GIANT TIK-TOK, BECOMING THE FIRST U.S. STATE TO DO SO.

INDIANA PUBLIC BROADCASTING LAUREN CHAPMAN REPORTS ATTORNEY GENERAL TODD ROKITA COMPLAINTS FOCUS ON CHINA'S ACCESS THE USER DATA AND INAPPROPRIATE VIDEOS FOR CHILDREN.

>> THE FIRST LAWSUIT CLAIMED THAT TIK-TOK, A VIDEO SHARING PLATFORM OWNED BY CHINESE COMPANY BYTEDANCE, WHO TRULY EXPOSES INDIANA CONSUMER DATA WILL WITHOUT THEIR KNOWLEDGE TO THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT.

TIK-TOK HAS HAD IN THE PAST THAT SAME CONSUMER DATA IS NOT SUBJECT TO CHINESE LAW.

THE SECOND LAW WHAT IS THE APT AGE RATING ON GOOGLE PLAY AND APPLE IS MISLEADING BECAUSE VIDEOS CONTAIN SEXUAL, FOLDER AND/OR PRODUCE CONTENT APPEAR ON THE PLATFORMS FOR YOU PAGE.

THE COMPLAINT CALLED TIK-TOK A CHINESE TROJAN HORSE.

THE ATTORNEY GENERAL - - ASKING FOR A COURT TO ORDER TIK-TOK TO STOP MARKETING ITSELF AS AN ACT APPROPRIATE FOR YOUNG TEENAGERS AND TO HOLD ITS CLAIMS THAT HOW IT HANDLES DATA .

>> Brandon: MIKE O'BRIEN, IT IS FAIR TO SAY THAT A LOT OF THE DISCUSSION ABOUT TODD ROKITA IS NEGATIVE, BUT IS TODD ROKITA DOING WHAT THAT OFFICE SHOULD BE DOING?

>> Mike: HE IS IN HIS NAME COMMERCIAL IS GIVEN CREDIT FOR THAT.

IT IS HARD TO HOW WE REGULATE CONTENT?

HOW DO YOU PROTECT CHILDREN AND CONSUMERS FROM BEING TARGETED?

>> Brandon: ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A COMPANY BASED OVERSEAS.

OVERSEAS IS ONE THING, BUT CHINA IS ANOTHER .

>> Mike: IT MAKES IT MORE APPEALING POLITICALLY, SO THERE IS THAT ELEMENT TOO.

MY BEST FRIEND'S WIFE MADE HIM GET OFF OF TIK-TOK BECAUSE OF THIS REASON.

THE CHINESE ARE GETTING ALL OF YOUR INFORMATION.

THE ONLY THING STANDING BETWEEN CHINA CRUSHING THE WESTERN - - ALL OF OUR POWER IS AN ILLUSION ANYWAY.

>> Ann: THE ONLY THING STANDING BETWEEN THAT IS TODD ROKITA.

[LAUGHTER].

>> Mike: PART OF IT IS THAT.

IT IS CONSUMERISM.

THERE IS A REASON THAT RUSSIA CAN INTERFERE WITH OUR ELECTIONS.

WE BELIEVE WITHOUT QUESTION EVERYTHING WE READ ON FACEBOOK.

THERE IS AN ELEMENT REBALANCING THOSE WITH PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY AND CONTEXT.

>> Brandon: AS PART OF A NATIONAL CONVERSATION , IS TODD ROKITA RELATIVELY LIMITED IN WHAT HE CAN ACHIEVE HERE?

>> Ann: YES .

IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GETS IN, THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

HAVE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO STEP IN AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT INFLUENCE.

SOCIAL MEDIA IN GENERAL, ALL THAT IS SOLD AND SOCIAL MEDIA.

THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GO ON THERE.

THE IDEA THAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE STATE OF INDIANA WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO THE REPUBLIC OF CHINA, I BET YOU THAT HE DOESN'T GET SERVICE .

>> Brandon: THIS MAKES SENSE FOR CONSUMER PROTECTION STANDPOINT.

IS THIS A HUGE WIN POLITICAL FOR TODD ROKITA ?

>> Niki: HE DOES NOT DO ANYTHING UNLESS IT HAS A POLITICAL UPSIDE.

YOU ARE RIGHT THOUGH, IT IS A FAIR THING.

IT IS DEFINITELY IN HIS LANE AND HE HAS CONSUMER COMPLAINTS ABOUT IT.

WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE DATA , BUT THERE IS CONCERN ABOUT REEBOK INAPPROPRIATE CONTENT FOR KIDS UNDER A CERTAIN AGE.

LET ME TELL YOU WHAT, THERE IS AN EXPERT AFFIDAVIT AND THAT FILING.

THE STUFF THAT WE FOUND ON TIK-TOK I DO NOT KNOW WHAT IT WAS AND HAD TO GOOGLE IT.

I HOPE NO ONE WAS TO MY COMPUTER .

[LAUGHTER].

THERE ARE DEFINITELY SOME FAIR THINGS TO DISCUSS IN THERE.

DON'T KID YOURSELF, ELICITED FROM A POLITICAL STANDPOINT TOO.

>> Brandon: THERE'S ALSO THE QUESTION OF IRON HOW MUCH TODD ROKITA WILL GET TENTATIVELY ALONG WITH ANYTHING, BUT THE VERY LEAST, THE ELEVATED TO GET BACK TO MIKE'S POINT ABOUT GOING TO BE MORE RESPONSIVE ABOUT HOW WE CONSUME SOCIAL MEDIA ?

DOES IT PUT IT IN FRONT OF PEOPLE AND SAY DID YOU KNOW THIS ?

>> Jon: FOR POLICYMAKERS, THIS IS NOT A NEW ISSUETHEY GET THIS.

WE HAVE SEEN MEMBERS OF THE FCC CALL FOR CHANGES.

WE SAW MARCO RUBIO IN THE U.S. SENATE AND IT IS LEGISLATION THAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY SHUT DOWN IN HIS CURRENT FASHION TIK-TOK.

AT A MORE APPROPRIATE STATE LEVEL, WE SAW A REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR OF TEXAS, GREG ABBOTT , SAY WE CANNOT HAVE IS ON STATE DEVICES ANYMORE.

THEN YOU HAVE A DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR OF MARYLAND, LARRY HOGAN, SAYING THE SAME THING .

>> Brandon: LARRY HOGAN IS A REPUBLICAN .

>> Jon: THAT IS RIGHT , BUT CERTAINLY NOT A DONALD TRUMP FAN, YOU ARE RIGHT.

TO ENTER THE PARTY PHILOSOPHICALLY.

THEIR CONCERNS ARE BASED, AS I UNDERSTAND IT , THE CHINESE ASPECT AND THE OWNERSHIP OF THE DATA AND THE MISUSE POTENTIALLY OF THE DATA.

NOT ON THE INTEREST OF USERS.

AS FOR WHETHER THIS HEIGHTENS CONCERN ON THE RANK AND FILE USERS, I WAS SAY THAT A LOT OF THESE USERS, NOT ONLY DID NOT HAPPEN TO THE PRIVACY, THEY SEEM TO BE EVERYTHING PRIVACY AT ALL.

IN MANY CASES IT IS BASICALLY I WILL WEAR IF I CAN BE NOTICED AND EXPRESS AN OPINION OR AN ODD, QUIRKY ABILITY TO JUGGLE CAPTURE SOMETHING, I WILL WEAR A BILLBOARD SANDWICH, I DON'T DO IT.

>> Ann: THAT IS PROBABLY AN IDEA FOR ROKITA, HE PROBABLY HASN'T TRIED THAT YET.

>> Jon: I DON'T SENSE-CONSUMER PRIVACY PROTECTION , UNFORTUNATELY .

>> Brandon: WHEN IT COMES TO PRIVACY, WITH THE NOTES FROM HOSPITAL SYSTEM, THERE WAS A DAILY APPLE USED AND IT WAS LIKE I FEEL LIKE EVERYBODY HAS ACCESS TO ALL OF MY INFORMATION ALL OF THE TIME AT THIS POINT.

IT'S LIKE WHAT IS ONE MORE THING, WHO CARES?

>> Mike: INSTAGRAM KNOWS I LOVE NIKE SNEAKERS WHICH IS WHY I HAVE 20 PAIRS, THERE IS ALWAYS IN MY FEET.

>> Brandon: THIS WEEK'S VIEWER FEEDBACK QUESTION IS ATTORNEY GENERAL TODD ROKITA RIGHT TO GO AFTER TIK-TOK FOR THE ALLEGED ACCESS USER DATA AND INAPPROPRIATE VIDEOS FOR CHILDREN?

ANSWER YES OR NO.

LAST WEEK WE ASKED YOU IF U.S.

SENATOR MIKE BRAUN IS THE FRONT RUNNER TO BE THE NEXT REPUBLICAN NOMINEE FOR GOVERNOR?

35% OF YOU SAID YES, 65% SAID NO.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE PART IN THE POLL, GO TO WFYI.org/IWIR AND LOOK FOR THE PULPIT WILL TALK ABOUT THE ISSUE IN A MINUTE BUT FOR NOW, IN THE END IS NEAR TOTAL ABORTION BAN HAS BEEN HALTED AGAIN IN STATE COURT.

THIS TIME, MARION COUNTY JUDGE RULED THAT THE BAND LIKELY VIOLATES INDIANA'S RELIGIOUS FREEDOM RESTORATION ACT.

A GROUP OF NUNS MEN WOMEN AND ORGANIZATION HOOSIER JUICE FOR CHOICE THROUGH THE STATE IN SEPTEMBER ARGUING THE VAN INFRINGES ON THEIR RELIGIOUS BELIEF.

MARION COUNTY JUDGE HEATHER WELCH AGREES.

THE WOMEN HAVE SHOWN THAT THERE CHANGE THEIR BEHAVIOR BECAUSE THE LAW, THREE OF THEM STOP TRYING TO GET PREGNANT, ANOTHER BECAME ABSTINENCE.

WELCH RULING NOTE THAT THE STATE CREATED EXCEPTION IN HIS ABORTION LAW, IN SOME CASES OF RAPE OR INCEST OR WHEN THE PREGNANT PERSON'S LIFE OR SERIOUS HEALTH IS AT RISK.

INDIANA CANNOT THEN REFUSE TO ACCOMMODATE THE EXCEPTIONAL WOMEN ARE ASKING FOR PATIENT RELIGIOUS BELIEFS.

ENFORCEMENT OF THE BAN WAS ALREADY HALTED IN A SEPARATE LAWSUIT WHICH IS SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD BY THE STATE SUPREME COURT IN JANUARY.

THAT MEANS THE RELEASE THEM, INDIANA'S ABORTION BAN IS NOT IN EFFECT.

>> Brandon: JON SCHWANTES, IS THIS THE HEIGHT OF IRONY?

>> Jon: NEXT TO THE WEBSTER DEFINITION OF IRONY SHOULD BE THIS.

MAYBE THE SIGNING PHOTO WITH ALL THE RELIGIOUS REPRESENTATIVES GATHERED AROUND .

YES, IT IS IRONIC.

IT IS A REMINDER THAT WHEN PEOPLE ARE ZEALOUS IN THEIR PURSUIT OF CERTAIN TYPES OF MEASURES , WHETHER IT IS SEEN AS A WEDGE TO OPEN UP FREEDOM , OR SOME WAY TO CURB AN UNWANTED ACTIVITY , OFTENTIMES PEOPLE WILL COME AND CAN COME AND DO FIND THE FLIPSIDE OF THAT.

YOU COULD ALMOST SEE IT COMING.

THERE ARE LOTS OF RELIGIONS AND DENOMINATIONS PALLOTTA BELIEVES THAT SOME PEOPLE IN THE "MAINSTREAM" WOULD ENDORSE AND FIND TOTALLY SUITABLE, AND OTHERS THAT THEY WOULD PROBABLY LIKE TO SEE ON THE BANNED LIST OF ACTIVITIES , IF WE HAD A CONSTITUTION THAT ALLOWS BANDS.

>> Brandon: I NOTICED A LOT OF PEOPLE POINTING OUT AFTER THIS NEWS BROKE, THAT KIND OF CUTS BOTH WAYS.

US CONSERVATIVE GROUPS PUSHING FOR - - AND NOW IS BEING USED AGAINST THE ABORTION GROUPS .

YOU HAVE FOLKS ON THE LEFT ALSO WHO WERE FURIOUS SAYING IT WAS THE WORST THING TO HAPPEN TO THE STATE, AND IT IS NOW BEING USED TO KNOCK DOWN THE ABORTION BAN , WHICH IS THE LATEST WORST THING TO HAPPEN TO THE STATE.

ON THIS SENSE, IS - - >> Mike: POLITICAL IDEOLOGY IS A CIRCLE.

[LAUGHTER].

>> Niki: I WAS WAITING FOR THIS TO COME, I AM NOT TOO SURPRISED BY THE RULING.

I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS WAS THE SAME JUDGE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IN THE KAYLA BERNARD CASE.

SHE HAD A BUSY LAST FRIDAY.

I THINK A LOT OF REPUBLICANS THAT I TALKED TO ARE ABSOLUTELY SHOCKED, BUT AM NOT SURE HOW THEY WERE SHOCKED.

WE TALKED ABOUT RELIGIOUS FREEDOM AND THE GOVERNMENT COMPELLING SOMETHING FOR OR AGAINST YOU, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE IS NOTHING MORE IRREPARABLE THAN FORCING SOMEONE TO BEAR A CHILD.

WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT FORCING YOU TO MAKE A CAKE OR NOT MAKE A CAKE.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BEARING A CHILD .

>> Brandon: OR IN THE CASE OF SEVERAL OF THESE WOMEN, DOING SOMETHING, NOW THEY ARE NOT HAVING CHILDREN BECAUSE THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT A LACK OF THIS ACCESS.

THE ABORTION BAN IS ALREADY HALTED AND WILL BE HALTED THROUGH MID-JANUARY AT THE VERY LEAST BECAUSE OF THE SUPREME COURT HEARING IN THE OTHER CASE.

THIS IS STILL IMPORTANT.

THE CITY INDIANA SUPREME COURT DECIDES IN THE OTHER LAWSUIT THAT THE ABORTION BAN IS JUST FINE.

THIS IS, AS THE JUDGE POINTED OUT, A COMPLETELY SEPARATE ISSUE .

>> Ann: NEED TALK ABOUT IRONIC, THAT IS A LAW DESIGNED TO DISCRIMINATE AGAINST GAYS, COMES BACK ON THE OTHER PILLAR OF THE ARCH CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS SAYING THAT A 10-YEAR-OLD SHOULD HAVE WORN THAT CHILD AND HAVE BEEN HAPPY TO BE A MOTHER WHEN SHE WAS IN GRADE SCHOOL.

IT SHOWS YOU THAT WHEN YOU TRY TO CRAM YOUR OWN RELIGIOUS BELIEFS DOWN SOMEONE'S THROAT, WE ARE A DIVERSE COUNTRY IN A DIVERSE STATE .

THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO APPROACH RELIGION.

IT IS INCONCEIVABLE TO THEM THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE TO RECOGNIZE GAY MARRIAGE , JUST LIKE YOU HAVE TO REALIZE THAT ABORTIONS IS NOT THE SIN YOU THINK IT IS .

>> Brandon: LEGISLATIVE LEADERS HAVE SAID WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO A MAJOR ANTIABORTION LEGISLATION.

WE DID, WE NEED TO TAKE A PAUSE FOR A LITTLE WHILE.

- - IN PARTICULAR SIDE OF THE SUPREME COURT HEARING THAT WE HAVE TO FIND OUT WHAT THE COURT THINKS ABOUT THIS BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING ELSE.

IS A REALLY LIKE THIS GOING TO PUT EVEN MORE PRESSURE ON HOUSTON FROM FOLKS IN THE COXES TO SAY NO, WE CANNOT WAIT ANOTHER YEAR, WE HAVE TO DO MORE AND MORE NOW?

>> Mike: THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COXES ARE PROPOSALS PERFECTLY FINE WITH THE LEADER SAYING WE ARE NOT DOING AT THE SESSION.

FOR THOSE WHO LIVED THROUGH THAT SPECIAL SESSION , THAT WAS NOT A FUN EXERCISE NO MATTER HOW PRO-LIFE YOU ARE.

THE ONE THING THAT IS BECOMING OBVIOUS SIX MONTHS INTO THIS , RESTRICTIONS ON ABORTION ARE FANTASY FOR MOST PEOPLE .

IT IS BECOMING A CLASS ISSUE.

THE EFFLUENT WILL NEVER HAVE AN ABORTION BAN , NEVER.

PEOPLE OF A CERTAIN INCOME ARE NOT GOING TO CARE .

THEY HAVE THE MEANS AND THE SOPHISTICATION TO GO AND FIND THE JURISDICTION THAT ALLOWS THEM TO GET WHAT THEY WANT DONE AND THEY DO NOT CARE WHAT THE STATE LAWS SAYAS THIS DEBATE UNFOLDS AROUND THE COUNTRY, THAT PEACE IS BECOMING OBVIOUS AND NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT IT.

IT DISPROPORTIONALLY AFFECTS PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO HEALTHCARE OR THE MEANS NECESSARY TO GO MAKE THE DECISION THAT THEY WANT TO MAKE .

>> Jon: YOU HAVE EMERGENCY ROOMS POSITIONS UNSURE ABOUT WHAT TO DO TO SAVE SOMEONE'S LIFE IN THE MOMENT.

>> Ann: WHICH IS WHY THEY SHOULD'VE TAKEN THE APPROACH THAT MISSISSIPPI TOOK.

15 WEEKS, EVERYTHING FOR 15 WEEKS.

WOULD IT BE A SENSIBLE APPROACH TOO .

>> Brandon: AND A REPORT BY - - MIKE BRAUN SHOWS HIM WITH A SIZABLE LEAD FOR THE 2024 RACE FOR GOVERNOR OVER THE SIZE OF OPPONENTS .

>> THE CAPITAL CHRONICLE STORY SHOWS THAT PAUL HAS BRAUN WITH A 37 POINT LEAD OVER LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR SUZANNE CROUCH AND 42 POINT LEAD OVER FORT WAYNE BUSINESSMAN ERIC DODEN.

BRAUN FILED PAPERWORK FOR GUBERNATORIAL AND LASTLY, CROUCH NINE AFTER CANDIDACY AND DODEN MONTES BED MORE THAN A YEAR AGO.

MORE THAN ONE THIRD OF THE POLL SAID THEY WERE UNDECIDED .

>> Brandon: HOW SERIOUSLY SHOULD WE TAKE THIS POLL?

>> Niki: IT WAS OBVIOUSLY A VALID POLL.

IT WAS DUPLEX AND TRY TO STOP PEOPLE FROM GETTING IN THE WAY , MAYBE PUSH PEOPLE OUT OF THE RACE.

IT IS ALSO NOT SURPRISED.

HE IS A SITTING U.S.

SENATOR.

IT IS A SNAPSHOT IN TIME , AND SOME GOOD INFORMATION TO HAVE.

WE ARE SO FAR AWAY FROM THAT RACE THAT I DON'T THINK IT HAS ANY LARGER RURAL IMPACT .

>> Brandon: IT FEELS LIKE A POLL ON NOT WHO YOU WANT TO BE GOVERNOR BUT WHOSE NAME DO YOU RECOGNIZE, RIGHT?

PETER IF ANYTHING, IT'S A REMINDER THAT HOOSIERS SHOULD PAY ATTENTION TO CIVIC AND THERE WERE THERE OFFICERS ARE .

37% UNDECIDED, YOU CAN RUN A CANDIDATE NAMED UNDECIDED AND PROBABLY HAVE A PRETTY GOOD CHANCE OF WINNING AT THIS POINT .

>> Brandon: GET THIS HAS AN IMPACT, IT IS SAME TO OTHER CANDIDATES THAT HAD TO GET INDUSTRIES PRETTY SOON?

>> Mike: FOR SURE, HE STARTING ON THIRD BASE.

HE IS 30 TO 40 POINTS AHEAD OF EVERYONE ELSE AND HE HAS UNLIMITED RESOURCES TO MAKE SURE HE'S AT THE LEVEL FOR A LONG TIME.

THAT IS NOT MEAN THAT CREDITING SUZANNE CROUCH CAN'T CATCH UP .

ERIC DODEN CAN RAISE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON HIS OWN, BUT YOU GOT TO GET GOING IF YOU'RE STARTING OFF AT 47% .

>> Brandon: YOU THINK YOU MIGHT START SEEING MORE ANNOUNCEMENTS PRETTY SOON?

>> Ann: OH I EXPECT STUPID WHEN YOU HAVE A RACER YOU HAVE THREE GUYS AND ONE WOMAN, SHE IS GOING TO DO PRETTY DARN WELL AND THAT .

>> Mike: THAT IS HOW BRAUN ONE, HE RAN AGAINST TWO CONGRESSMEN .

>> Brandon: FINALLY, I LOVE THIS STORY.

THE RESTAURANT CHAIN RAISING CANE'S CHICKEN FINGERS ASSUMING A HOBART INDIANA SHOPPING ON AFTER THE RESTAURANT FOUND OUT THAT HE WAS BARRED FROM SELLING CHICKEN FINGERS.

A LAWSUIT ALLEGES THAT THE LANDLORD HADóDEAL WITH McDONALD'S IN THE SAME COMPLEX, THAT ONLY CONSULT CHICKEN PRODUCTS AT THE SHOPPING CENTER.

ANN DELANEY, HOW YOU THINK THE LANDLORD WAS GOING TO GET AWAY WITH STOPPING A CHICKEN FINGER RESTAURANT FROM SELLING CHICKEN FINGERS?

>> Ann: HAS RUFFLED A LOT OF FEATHERS, NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.

[LAUGHTER].

IT'S THE CLASSIC CASE OF A LANDLORD ON ONE HAND AND A LEASING - - OBVIOUSLY THE LANDLORD WAS GOING TO LOSE ON THIS.

WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT YOUR BUSINESS IS , HE DOES NOT TELL YOU THAT YOU CANNOT RESPIN YOUR BUSINESS IN THAT LOCATION , YOU ARE IN TROUBLE .

>> Brandon: MY FAVORITE PART OF MY FAVORITE STORY IN A WHILE, ACCORDING TO THE LAWSUIT, THEY TRIED TO SHARE THE ACTIVITY DEAL TO RAISING CANE'S THAT IT ALREADY SOLD TO McDONALD'S.

[LAUGHTER].

THAT IS INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW FOR THIS WEEK.

OUR PANEL IS DEMOCRAT ANN DELANEY, REPUBLICAN MIKE O'BRIEN , JON SCHWANTES OF INDIANA LAWMAKERS AND NIKI KELLY OF THE INDIANA CAPITAL CHRONICLE.

YOU CAN FIND INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW'S PODCASTS AND EPISODES AT WFYI.org/IWIR , OR ON THE PBS VIDEO APP.

I'M BRANDON SMITH OF INDIANA PUBLIC BROADCASTING.

JOIN US NEXT TIME, BECAUSE A LOT CAN HAPPEN IN AN INDIANA WEEK[MUSIC].