>> Rich: OKLAHOMA's TRAVEL LEADERS GATHER TO SHARE AN ECONOMIC REPORT CARD.

>> TRAVEL NATIONS ACCOUNTED FOR A $23.4 BILLION IMPACT IN OKLAHOMA.

[APPLAUSE] >> Rich: EARLY RESULTS IN THE RACE TO REPLACE GOVERNOR KEVIN STITT.

>> WE HAVEN'T SEEN A CANDIDATING THIS STRONG.

>> Rich: THE REPORT REVEALS OKLAHOMA IS NOT A TOP TEN STATE WHEN IT COMES TO OUR CHILDREN.

>> THESE ARE FIXABLE PROBLEMS.

POLICY DECISIONS GOT US HERE AND THERE ARE POLICY DECISIONS THAT CAN GET US OUT.

>> Rich: IT'S COWBOY CAMP >> THEY WILL ADD TO THE RICH TOURISM INDUSTRY IN OKLAHOMA FOR YEARS TO COME.

>> ADDITIONALLY, $582 MILLION WERE SPENT ON HELP SERVICES AND $351 MILLION IN ALL WENT TO EDUCATION PROGRAMS ACROSS OKLAHOMA.

THIS EVENT IS AN INFLECTION POINT FOR INTERGOVERNMENTAL POLITICS AND THE GOVERNOR ENTERS THE FINAL YEAR OF HIS TERM.

THEY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REPAIR BY HOPEFULS LIKE HOUSE MINORITY LEADER MUNSON.

>> AS I RUN FOR GOVERNOR, THIS ISSUE OF TRIBAL SOVEREIGNTY COMES UP QUITE A BIT AS I TRAF TRAVELTHE STATE AND I'M GLAD THT PEOPLE IN OKLAHOMA UNDERSTAND THAT AND ARE FRUSTRATED WITH THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION, HOW THEY TREAT OUR TRIBE.

AND SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT AND I THOUGH MANY IN OKLAHOMA ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO A NEW OPPORTUNITY TO REBUILD THOSE RELATIONSHIPS WITH SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS THE IMPORTANCE OF THE IMPACT ON OUR STATE.

>> THE THEME THAT REVERBERATED OFF THE CITY WALLS WAS COLLABORATION.

>> WE UNDERSTAND THAT A RISING TIDE LIFTS ALL BOATS.

THE SUCCESS OF TRIBAL GOVERNMENTS IS A SHARED SUCCESS WITH THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA.

THE RESULTS OF TODAY's REPORT SHOWS THAT WHEN WE CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER AS PARTNERS, EVERYONE BENEFITS.

THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE].

>> AS THAT TIDE CONTINUES TO RISE, THIS REPORT IS A HARB INGERFOR SMOOTH SAILING IT.

EVERYONE I TALK TO HOPING FOR AND MORE TRIBES COME ON BOARD.

>> Rich: CONVICTED MURDERER JOHN HANSON WAS CONVICTED ON THURSDAY MORNING.

HE WAS SENTENCED TO DEATH FOR THE 1999 KIDNAPPING AND KILLING OF 77-YEAR-OLD MARY BOLES.

HE HAD BEEN HELD IN A LOUISIANA FEDERAL PRISON UNTIL ATTORNEY GENERAL DRUMMOND REQUESTED HIS TRANSFER BACK TO OKLAHOMA IN MARCH.

>>> RICH GOLSSIF WILL BE BACK IN A COURTROOM BEGINNING JUNE 17th.

ATTORNEY GENERAL DRUMMOND ANNOUNCED HE WILL NOT DROP THE FIRST-DEGREE MURDER CHARGES FOR THE 1997 BEATING DEATH OF VANTRISE.

HE WILL NOT SEEK THE DEATH PENALTY AND VOWS THIS TIME AROUND HE WILL RECEIVE A FAIR TRIAL.

>>> THE CASEY FOUNDATION's ANNUAL 2025 KID's COUNT REPORT HAS BEEN RELEASED AND THE SOONER STATE DID NOT FARE WELL IN THE CRITERIA.

OVERALL, OKLAHOMA RANKS 44 OUT OF 50 WITH ONLY NEVADA, MISSISSIPPI, LOUISIANA RANKING LOWER.

OKLAHOMA RANKED AMONG THE TOP HALF OF ALL STATES IN ONLY TWO CATEGORIES, PERCENTAGE SINGLE FAMILIES AND LOW BIRTH RATE BABIES.

OVERALL, OKLAHOMA FINISHED 40 IN OKLAHOMA WELL-BEING AND 48th IN EDUCATION.

ACCORDING TO THE REPORT, SOME OF THE AREAS ARE IN DESPERATE NEED OF IMPROVEMENT.

27% OF OUR CHILDREN ARE LIVING IN POVERTY AND THAT RANKS 44.

PERCENTAGE OF FAMILIES THAT LACK A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA AND LOW PROFICIENCY IN MATH AND READING.

44% OF OKLAHOMA CHILDREN ARE OBESE AND OKLAHOMA HAS A TIE TEEN BIRTH RATE.

CASSIDY MUDD SPOKE WITH THE OKLAHOMA POLICY INSTITUTE WHO SHARED HER OPINION ON HOW OKLAHOMA CAN IMPROVE THOSE NUMBERS.

>> THIS REPORT SHOWS, I THINK, MORE THAN ANYTHING THAT OKLAHOMA CAN DO BETTER.

NONE OF THIS IS WRITTEN IN STONE.

WE HAVE CHOICES THAT WE CAN MAKE.

WE CAN CHOOSE TO CONTINUE DOWN OUR CURRENT PATH, WHICH I THINK THE DATA WOULD SHOW IS NOT WORKING OUT FOR US.

OR WE CAN CHOOSE TO BE BIGGER AND INVEST IN OKLAHOMA KIDS AND FAMILIES FOR THE LONG HAUL.

>> ONE IN FIVE OKLAHOMA CHILDREN LIVES IN POVERTY.

WHAT SPECIFIC BUDGET PRIORITIES WOULD MAKE THE GREATEST DIFFERENCE IN ECONOMIC WELL-BEING?

>> CUTTING INCOME TAX IS VERY, VERY HELPFUL FOR PEOPLE WHO SOMETIMES WONDER IF THEY SHOULD GET ANOTHER YACHT.

IT'S NOT HELPFUL TRYING TO CHOOSE BETWEEN A COPAY AND ELECTRICAL BILL.

THE INCOME TAX BILL THIS YEAR WILL NET ME ENOUGH TO PAY FOR A NICE PEDICURE AND OTHERS $9 WHICH MIGHT COVER A DRINK AT STARBUCKS BUT NOT A FANCY ONE.

I THINK A BETTER INVESTMENT OF THAT MONEY WOULD BE INVESTING IN OUR CHILDREN.

THEY COULD INVEST FOR LOW-INCOME HOUSEHOLDS.

THERE'S THE CHILD TAX CREDIT, THOSE PUT MONEY BACK INTO POCKETS OF PEOPLE WHO WILL SPEND IT LOCALLY.

>> YEAR AFTER YEAR, WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE IN OKLAHOMA OR MAYBE WHO ARE OVERWHELMED BY THE STATISTIC?

>> WE'RE NOT AT THE BOTTOM THE BARRELL, BUT IT WILL BE OTHERS JOCKEYING FOR THE BOTTOM.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE, THERE ARE FACTORS THAT DON'T SHOW UP IN THESE STATISTIC.

I KNOW NEW MEXICO HAS MADE SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS IN CHILDCARE AND OTHER PROGRAMS THAT ARE NOT YET SHOWING UP IN THEIR STATS.

BUT YOU THINK THAT'S WHERE WE POINT TO THE LONG-TEMPLE AS LONS OPPOSED TO WHAT WILL SIMPLY MAKE IT.

THEY ARE NOT GIVEN ENOUGH RESOURCES OR TIME TO DO THAT JOB EFFECTIVELY.

SO I THINK THAT THIS IS WHERE HAVING CONSTITUENTS REACHING OUT TO LAWMAKER, ESPECIALLY NOW THAT THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION IS THE O NORMAL.

THEY NEED AND OFTEN WANT HELP.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THIS LEGENDARY WEATHERMAN PASSED AWAY.

HE WAS MUST-SEE TV DURING SEVERE WEATHER.

I HAD THE PLEASURE OF SHARING THE NEWSROOM WITH GARY.

HE WAS WARM, SINCERE AND FUNNY.

HE RETIRED IN 2013 AND INDUCTED INTO THE OKLAHOMA HALL OF FAME THE SAME YEAR.

>>> WE PROFILE THE BLUES FESTIVAL AND FOUNDER.

SHE WAS A FORCE OF NATURE WHO KEPT THE FESTIVAL GROWING AND THRIVING SINCE 1991.

TRAGICALLY, HER BROTHER, GUNTHER, HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH FIRST-DEGREE MURDER AFTER A BODY WAS DISCOVERED ON TUESDAY AT HER BLUES CLUB.

MacINTOSH COUNTY LAW ENFORCEMENT SAYS GUNTHER ADMITTED TO KILLING HIS SISTER WITH A HAMMER AND KNIFE AND NO MOTIVE HAS BEEN RELEASED AT THIS POINT.

>>> IT'S BEEN A COUPLE OF WEEKS NOW SINCE TULSA MAYOR REVEALED A $100 MILLION GREENWOOD TRUST FOR THE TULSA RACE MASSACRE.

HOW HAS THAT PROPOSAL BEEN RECEIVED?

THAT'S THE FOCUS OF OUR UPCOMING CONVERSATION WITH CASSIDY MUDD AND HER PANEL.

HERE IS A PREVIEW OF THAT DISCUSSION.

>> THERE WOULD BE $105 MILLION IN TOTAL THAT WOULD BE SET TO BE RAISED FOR THIS TRUST AND IT WOULD GO TOWARDS A MULTITUDE OF THINGS.

IT COULD GO TOWARD SCHOLARSHIPS AND BUSINESSES AND GRANTS AS WELL AS MORE BROADLY BUILDING UP THE BUSINESSES AND INFRASTRUCTURE IN THAT COMMUNITY WHEN IT COMES TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

>> THE LARGEST STEP FORWARD IN THE HISTORY OF THE DISTRICT, IN THE HISTORY OF THE BLACK TULSA IN TERMS OF MOVING IS ACKNOWLEDGING BUT MORE THAN ONACKNOWLEDGEMENT, MOVING FORWARD INACTIONABLE ITEMS.

>> Rich: THE REST OF THAT CONVERSATION COMING UP IN A FEW MINUTES.

>>> WE'RE STILL 17 MONTHS AWAY FROM ELECTING A NEW GOVERNOR TO REPLACE KEVIN STITT.

WE'RE JOINED BY AN EARLY SNAPSHOT OF THE CONTENDERS AND TO BE CLEAR, WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHO ALL WILL THROW THEIR HAT INTO THE RING.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

THE FIELD IS NOT SET YET.

IT'S GETTING CLEARER AND CLEARER.

I EXPECT BY THE END OF THE SHER, SUMMER FOR THE FIELD TO BE SET.

>> LET'S PUT UP THE NUMBERS FOR THE RECENT POLLING AND TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE AND IF THE ELECTION WERE TOMORROW, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WOULD BE ELECTED GOVERNOR?

>> THE NUMBERS ARE JUST FOR THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY.

THAT'S WHERE THE REAL RACE LOOKS LIKE IT WILL BE, ON A GENERIC TEST IF YOU VOTE FOR THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE OR DEMOCRAT CANDIDATE AND THE REPUBLICAN STARTS AT 58% AND IT'S TOUGH TO LOSE WHEN YOU START LIKE THAT.

>> Rich: WHO CAN GO THE DISTANCE IN TERMS OF WHO HAS THE CASH?

>> THAT'S THE MILLION-DOLLAR QUESTION OR TEN MILLION DOLLARS QUESTION IN THIS CASE.

I THINK ATTORNEY GENERAL DRUMMOND, FORMAL SPEAKER CHARLES MCCULL AS THEY NEED TO BE COMPETITIVE.

THERE ARE STORIES ABOUT CHIP KEATING, FRANK KEATING's SON FOR HIGHWAY PATROLMAN.

HE'S A SUCCESSFUL OIL GUY, THAT HE WOULD PUT IN THAT MONEY, AS WELL.

>> Rich: RYAN WALTERS, WHEN YOU SEE SOME OF HIS MOST RECENT NEWS CONFERENCES, IT SURE SEEMS LIKE HE'S GOING TO RUN FOR GOVERNOR.

LET'S TALK ABOUT HIM A LITTLE BIT.

>> HE'S THE MOST POLARIZING FIGURE IN OKLAHOMA RIGHT NOW WHEN IT COMES TO POLITICS.

SHE'S FAIRLY DEVICIVE.

OUR PRIMARY ELECTIONS TEND TO BE LOW TURNOUT AFFAIRS, IN WHICH CASE A CANDIDATE LIKE RYAN WALTERS WHO HAS AN INTENSE FOLLOWING WOULD BE A VIABLE CANDIDATE.

>> Rich: PEOPLE WHO LIKE HIM, LIKE HIM AND WHO DON'T, THEY DON'T.

WHICH IS LIKE THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR WHO HASN'T ANNOUNCED HE'S THE EXACT ON SUBTLE.

>> Rich: TELL US ABOUT THIS POLL.

>> WE'RE GOING TO SEE WHERE THE VOTERS LINING UP RIGHT NOW.

WE DO IT THROUGH PRIMARILY THROUGH LIVE AGENTS, HAVE A CALL CENTER IN MOOREOKLAHOMA AND WE CALL YOU ON THE PHONE AND WE HAVE ABOUT 25% ART AND TEXT TO WEB.

IT'S A WAY TO MAKE SURE THIS REFLECTS THIS FROM AN AGE, GEOGRAPHIC AND GENDER STANDPOINT.

>> Rich: GOVERNOR STITT, SPECULATING, BUT DO YOU IMAGINE HE WOULD ENDORSE HIS PREFERRED CANDIDATE TO REPLACE HIM OR GET INTO THIS OR PLAY ANY IMPACT ROLE?

>> YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT GOVERNORS DO DIFFERENT THINGS AND I WOULD NOT WANT TO SPEAK FOR GOVERNOR STITT.

HE IS STILL POPULAR IN THE ELECTORATE.

HIS RATING IS OVER 60% AMONG REPUBLICANS AND SO HE COULD BE INFLUENTIAL THERE.

BUT MOST FOLKS, REPUBLICAN PRIMARY ELECTORATES IN THE PAST HAVE BEEN RELUCTANT.

I THINK THE ENDORSEMENTS IN THIS RACE, WHEN YOU HAVE SO MANY CANDIDATES THAT HAVE RESOURCES TO DEFINE THEMSELVES OR ARE ALREADY DEFINED, I THINK THAT ENDORSEMENT WOULD HAVE A REPORT LIMITED IMPACT.

>> Rich: ONE QUESTION ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE, BUT SIDNEY MUNSON, IS SHE A LOCK?

>> I'M NOT HEARING ANY OTHER DEMOCRATS.

I EXPECT THE OTHER DEMOCRATS TO BE UNITED BEHIND HER.

I THINK HER PATH WOULD BE ONE OF REPUBLICANS NOMINATING SOMEONE AS POLARIZING AS RYAN WALTERS.

YOU DON'T KNOW THAT SHOULD COULD STILL BE SUCCESSFUL EVEN IN THAT ENVIRONMENT BUT THAT WOULD BE THE ENVIRONMENT WITH THE BEST ENVIRONMENT.

>> Rich: ANY TAKE-AWAYS WE HAVEN'T TALKS ABOUT?

>> HOW STRONG DRUMMOND IS RIGHT NOW.

AMONG THE REPUBLICANS WHO DECIDED, 57% ARE SUPPORTING HUM.

HIM.

FOR THIS FAR OUT OF A PRIMARY ELECTION, WE HAVEN'T SEEN A CANDIDATE BE THIS STRONG IN MY LIFETIME AND I'VE BEEN DOING THIS SINCE 1994.

>> Rich: PAT, WE WANT TO YOU HAVE BACK BEFORE THE PRIMARY.

>> I WOULD BE HAPPY TO.

>> Rich: THANK YOU.

WE FIRST INTRODUCED YOU TO THE COW's FOUNDATION WHEN THEY WALKED THE RUNWAYS OF PARIS.

THEY ARE LEGIT COWBOYS AND THIS SUMMER, THEY'RE SHARING WHAT THEY THOUGH WITH THE NEXT GENERATION OF YOUNG WRANGLERS.

>> THE OKLAHOMA COWBOY's FOUNDATION PROVIDED AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OKC YOUTH TO LEARN ABOUT THE COWBOY.

MORE THAN 30 YOUTH FROM AROUND OKLAHOMA CITY PARTICIPATED IN THE OKLAHOMA COWBOY's YOUTH SUMMER CAMP THIS WEEK.

>> WHAT'S CONNECTED TO THE BIT THAT YOU STEER THE HORSE WITH?

>> THE REINS.

>> ACTUALLY COMING OUT HERE AND DOING THE ONE ON ONE RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM AND I THINK IT'S AMAZING.

A LOT OF US KIND OF DIDN'T HAVE THAT IMPACT ON US.

WE LEARNED FROM EACH OTHER AND JUST A FEW SURROUNDING PEOPLE.

BUT FOR THEM TO ACTUALLY HAVE COACHES TO LEAN ON AND ASK QUESTIONS INSTEAD OF FIGURING IT OUT ON THEIR OWN.

>> Reporter: COACH PUGH IS MORE THAN HAPPY TO LEARN CAMPERS LEARN THE ROPES.

THESE KIDS ARE TAUGHT HORSEMANSHIP SKILLS.

>> GOOD SHOP.

>> EVERYTHING FROM VERBI ARC GEO CLEAR CLUES.

FOR US TO GO THROUGH AND REALLY TEACH THESE KIDS THINGS THAT WE KIND OF WISHED WE HAD, THIS IS AMAZING.

SO I'M HAPPY TO BE A PART OF THIS FOR SURE.

>> YOU PUT IT IN THE THIRD ONE?

>> PUT A LITTLE MUSCLE TO IT.

>> Reporter: THE FOUNDER AND EXECUTIVE WHO SAYS ONE OF THE MAIN PILLARS IS ORGANIZATION.

>> THIS IS MORE FOR KIDS THAT WERE, LIKE, ALREADY IN WITH THE GRANDPA, GRANDMA OR BEEN DOING IT ALL MY LIFE.

I WANTED THIS TO BE FOR KIDS THAT ARE NEW TO IT, STICKIEDS.

>> Reporter: IT FOCUSES ON PRESERVATION, AGRICULTURE.

INSPIRED BY HIS LOVE FOR THE RODEOS, THIS WAS FOUNDED IN 2022.

>> I'M AN ARTIST, PHOTOGRAPHER AND I DO SOMETHING CALLED "THE RODEO RECORD."

THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW WAS MY FIRST INTRODUCTION BACK INTO THE RODEO LIFESTYLE SINCE MY AUNT PASSED AWAY IN 2019.

THIS RODEO LIFESTYLE WAS STILL GOING ON, ALL THE SAME WHEN MY AUNT WAS OUT HERE.

I WAS, LIKE, DANG, THIS IS STILL GOING ON BUT THERE'S NO NATIONAL ATTENTION ON IT.

>> Reporter: PARK SAYS HIS VISION WAS TO HONOR THE BLACK COWBOY LEGACY THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA.

>> I WANT TO START AN INSTAGRAM PAGE THAT WOULD DOCUMENT THESE COWBOYS IN OKLAHOMA AND THEN THE VISION GOT BRIGHTER AND BIGGER.

I TURNED IT INTO A NONPROFIT AND DOING THE PROGRAMS.

>> Reporter: AND THE PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN WELL RECEIVED BY THE COMMUNITY.

>> WELL, I'VE KNOWN THE FOUNDER A REALLY LONG TIME.

YOU LIKE WHAT HE'SING TO IN THE COMMUNITY COMMUNITY.

IT'S A GREAT WAY TO GET KIDS INVOLVED AND USE THEIR HANDS AND DO HARD THINGS.

>> Reporter: COACH SMITH HOPES CAMPERS WILL LEAD WITH A PASSION FOR THE EQUESTRIAN LIFESTYLE.

>> I WANT TO SEE HIM DO THIS AND COME TO SOME RODEOS.

I WISH WE COULD BRING HIM TO THE RODEO TO SEE THE COACHES PERFORM.

>> THE KIDS LOVE IT AND LISTENING AND TAKING THE CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM WELL AND IMPLEMENTING IT.

THEY'RE SEEING THE RESULTS.

SO A LOT OF MY KIDS, THEY'RE HAPPY AND THEY THINK THIS IS WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.

HOPEFULLY YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, WE'LL SEE THEM COMPETING AND RAIDING.

>> Reporter: THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME HE HAS GRABBED THE REINS.

>> I WAS RIDING SINCE ONE AND GOT MY FIRST HORSE AT ONE.

>> Reporter: HE CAME TO CAMP TO IMPROVE ON HIS SKILLS.

>> I CAME HERE JUST TO EXPLORE MORE AND GET MORE EXPERIENCE RIDING HORSES.

>> Reporter: HE HAS HIGH ASPIRATIONS FOR HIS FUTURE.

>> I WANT TO GO FAR AND BE IN THE.

PBR ONE DAY.

I WANT TO GO FAR AND GO TO COLLEGE AND RODEO.

>> BACK AROUND TO YOUR RIGHT.

>> Reporter: PARENT OLIVIA BROWN SAYS THE CAMP HAS GIVEN HER SON NEW-FOUND CONFIDENCE.

>> HE WAS HESITANT AND DOES NOT LIKE TRYING NEW THINGS.

HE THINKS HE'S A FULL-ON COWBOY.

HE WENT FROM NEVER RIDING A HORSE TO RIDING INDEPENDENTLY.

>> A DOUBLE HIGH-FIVE.

>> Reporter: THE NONPROFIT IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON NEW WAYS TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY.

>> RIGHT NOW, ALL OF OUR CAMPS ARE FOR YOUNGER KIDS.

OUR TEAM IS WORKING VERY, VERY HARD TO LAUNCH A BIG KID's CAMP BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE KIDS THAT WE NEED TO TOUCH.

>> Reporter: SINCE ITS INCEPTION, THE ORGANIZATION HAS DRAWN NATIONAL ATTENTION, FROM RUNWAYS IN PARIS TO A CAMPAIGN, NUMEROUS OPPORTUNITIES HAVE POURED IN FOR THE COWBOYS.

>> WE MET PEOPLE THAT LOOK LIKE US AND DON'T LOOK LIKE US.

EVEN SEEING THESE KIDS WHO HAVE NEVER TOUCHED A HORSE.

>> Reporter: THIS FALL, THE AT MUSEUM WILL FEATURE ART IN AN EXHIBIT TITLED "THE BLACK LAND."

IT'S SET TO OPEN NOVEMBER 6th.

RICH?

>> Rich: LIKE A LOT OF FUN.

>>> THE TEMPERATURE REVENUE IS IN.

THIS TOPS THE BUSINESS REVIEW WITH JASON DOYLE.

>> Reporter: THEY RELEASED THE MAY TAX REVENUE NUMBERS AND THEY'RE DOWN FROM A YEAR AGO.

$1.28 BILLION WAS COLLECTED LAST MONTH, A ADDRESS OF 28.8 MILLION FROM MAY OF 2024.

GAS ROSE AND INDIVIDUAL AND CORPORATE INCOME TAXES WERE DOWN BY 3 POINT 4%, DROPPING BY $14.4 MILLION.

REAL ESTATE INVESTORS MADE UP 18.7% OF HOME PURCHASES AND THAT PUTS THE STATE IN SECOND PLACE BEHIND MISSOURI.

WHEN IT COMES TO SELLING HOPES, OKLAHOMA TAKES THE TOP SPOT WITH 15.7% LAST YEAR.

OKLAHOMA LEAD WITH THE MOST SELLERS AMONG THE TOP 150 U.S. MARKETS.

REALTOR.COM REPORTS ON A NATIONAL BASIS, INVESTORS SELLING HOMES HIT A RECORD HIGH OF 10.8% LAST YEAR.

A NEW SURVEY BY OKLAHOMA-BASED PROFESSIONALS SHOWS THAT NEARLY TWO IN FIVE U.S.

HIRING MANAGERS EXPECT A TURNOVER AT THEIR COMPANY TO INCREASE.

THE RATE IS UP FROM 33% RESULTS.

ON AVERAGE, AN EMPLOYEE LEADING A BUSINESS AND THAT BUSINESS HIRING A REPLACEMENT COST $26.5 BILLION A YEAR.

THE TOP REASON FOR EMPLOYEE TURNOVER IS BETTER PAY AND BENEFITS OFFERED ELSEWHERE.

OKLAHOMA's LARGEST INDEPENDENT FILM FESTIVAL BEGAN ON WEDNESDAY AND WRAPS YOU ON SUNDAY.

IT WILL PREMIERE FROM 38 FILM-MAKERS BEFORE WRAPPING UP THE FIVE-DAY RUN AND HONOR FIVE FILM ICONS INCLUDING WAYNE COUNTY FROM THE OKLAHOMA CITY BASED BAND, "FLAMING LIPS."

THIS IS JASON DOYLE, "THE OKLAHOMA BASE REVIEW.

>> Rich: TULSA MAYOR SAYS HIS $100 MILLION GREENWOOD TRUST WOULD NOT INCLUDE DIRECT CASH PAYMENTS TO DESCENDANTS OF THE TULSA RACE MASSACRE BUT WOULD CREATE A FUND UTILIZED FOR SCHOLARSHIPS, HOUSING AND OTHERS TO HELP THOSE ELIGIBLE.

IT'S JUST A PROPOSAL.

BUT TWO WEEKS AFTER UNVEILING THE PLAN, HOW IS MAYOR NICKEL's VISION RECEIVED BY THE PUBLIC?

THAT'S THE TOPIC OF THIS WEEK's IN-DEPTH CONVERSATION WITH MODERATOR CASSIDY MUDD.

>> WE HAVE THE MANAGER EDITOR AND PODCAST.

WE'RE JOINED BY THE APPLIED ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR FOR ENGLISH CREATIVE WRITING AND MEDIA STUDIES AND HE'S THE DIRECTOR OF THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN STUDIES AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TULSA.

GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US HERE ON "IN-DEPTH."

YOU WON AN EMMY AND TELL US ABOUT THAT.

>> SURE, I SERVED AS HOST AND A CONTRIBUTING WRITER TO THE DOCUMENTARY, TULSA RACE MASSACRE, ONE HUNDRED YEARS LATER ."

THIS WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE AND PROUD OF THE WORK WE DID.

>> CAN YOU BREAK DOWN WHAT THE MAYOR IS PROPOSING?

>> IT'S BEING CALLED "A ROAD TO REPAIR" FROM GROUPS WHO HAVE BEEN CALLING FOR THESE SPECIFIC PROPOSALS TO BE ENACTED AT THE CITY LEVEL.

AND SO, THERE WOULD BE $105 MILLION IN TOTAL THAT WOULD BE SET TO BE RAISED FOR THIS TRUST.

IT WOULD GO TOWARDS A MULTITUDE OF THINGS.

IT WOULD GO TOWARDS SCHOLARSHIPS FOR DESCENDANTS, LAND SET ASIDE, BUSINESS GRANTS AND OTHER THINGS FOR ENTREPRENEURS IN NORTH TULSA, AS WELL AS MORE BROADLY BUILDING UP THE BUSINESSES AND INFRASTRUCTURE IN THAT COMMUNITY WHEN IT COMES TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

HE'S ALSO ALREADY SET ASIDE IN THE BUDGET OVER $1 MILLION TO CONTINUE THE MASS GRAVE's INVESTIGATION AS WELL AS RELEASES OVER $45,000 DOCUMENTS RELATING TO THE MASSACRE THAT HAD NEVER BEEN RELEASED.

AND SO, HE HASN'T SPECIFICALLY CALLED IT REPARATIONS HIMSELF BUT IT'S TO RESTORE THE COMMUNITY OF GREENWOOD AS A WHOLE.

>> WITH THAT EMMY AND ALL OF THE WORK FOR THAT DOCUMENTARY, YOU'VE SPENT YEARS PRESERVING THE HISTORY OF GREENWOOD.

WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO YOU TO SEE A TULSA MAYOR PROPOSE SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN 2025?

>> WELL, FROM A PERSONAL STANDPOINT, I HAVE BEEN RESEARCHING THE DISTRICT FOR ABOUT NOW 30 YEARS.

MOST OF THOSE YEARS WERE IN CHICAGO WHERE I LIVED PREVIOUSLY.

FROM A PERSONAL STANDPOINT, IT BRINGS TO MIND PROBABLY THE LARGE OF THE STEP FORWARD IN THE HISTORY OF THE DISTRICT IN THE HOUR OF BLACK TULSA IN TERMS OF ACKNOWLEDGING.

MORE THAN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT, MOVING FORWARD INACTIONABLE ITEMS TO REPAIR, TO RESTORE.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I AM NOT A DESCENDANT AND A SURVIVOR.

SO I'M ALWAYS CAREFUL WHEN I'M ASKED QUESTIONS LIKE THIS.

YOU DON'T WANT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF A SURVIVOR OR DESCENDANT BUT AS HISTORIAN OF THE DISTRICT OF MANY DECADES, THIS IS THE MOST CONCRETE AND COMPREHENSIVE STEP FORWARD IN TERMS OF ON THE GROUND.

WE CAN SPEAK TO THE ORIGINAL RACE MASSACRE COMMISSIONER AND A RACE RIOT WAS CALLED AT THE TIME THAT TOOK A LAWSUIT TO THE DISTRICT SUPREME COURT BEFORE IT LANQUISHED.

IN TERMS OF HELPING PEOPLE IN THE DISTRICT AND THINKING ABOUT WHAT I CALL THE THREE MASSACRES, THIS IS THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE STEP FORWARD IN ADDRESSING WHAT GREENWOOD IS NOW.

AND IT'S MORE THAN JUST WORDS BUT ACTIONS OR MONIES TOWARDS TOWARDSATONEMENT.

I'M VERY PLEASED AND EXCITED ABOUT WHAT MAYOR NICKELS HAS PROPOSED AND MY HOPE THE ENTIRE CITY CAN GET BEHIND IT.

THAT REMAINS TO BE SEEN.

>> YOU SAID SOMETHING INTERESTING, YOU SAID THE THREE MASSACRES ON THE DISTRICT.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT?

>> THE FIRST BEING WHAT HAPPENED IN 1921, LOSS OF LIVES, LOSS OF PROPERTY AND LOSS OF GENERATIONAL WEALTH.

SO THAT WOULD BE ONE.

AND TWO, I WOULD SAY INTEGRATION HAD A VERY PROFOUND EFFECT ON THE DISTRICT WHEN BLACK TULSANS SO SHOP SOUTH OF FIRST STREET AND THEY DID.

SO THAT MEANT THE DOLLAR THAT WOULD CHANGE HANDS FROM 12 TO 18 HANDS PRIOR TO THAT MOMENT WAS SPENT IN SOUTH TULSA.

SO THAT MOMENT TOOK THE DOLLAR OUT OF GREENWOOD.

AND THEN THE THIRD WOULD BE THE HIGHWAY, THE MODEL'S CITY PROJECT THAT IS EFFECTIVELY CUT OFF BLACK TULSA FROM THE FINANCIAL DISTRICT.

SO THOSE ARE WHAT I WOULD CALL THE THREE MASSACRES THAT OCCURRED IN GREENWOOD.

>> FOR PEOPLE THAT MAY NOT UNDERSTAND, WHERE REPARATIONS ARE IMPORTANT, HOW WOULD YOU EXPLAIN THE LASTING IMPACT OF THE MASSACRE AND GENERATIONAL HARM IT CAUSED?

>> I WANT YOU TO BE CAREFUL THERE, CASSIDY, BECAUSE REPARATIONS IS A TRICKY WORD.

AND THE MAYORMADE GREAT PAINS.

THE REPARATIONS ARE DIVISIVE.

AND SO, I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT REPARATIONS ARE DUE AND THIS IS A FORM, WHAT THE MAYOR PERFORMED IS A FORM BUT IT'S A POLITICAL FOOTBALL.

IT HAD BEEN FOR DECADES AND CERTAINLY IS IN THAT CLIMATE NOW.

HOWEVER, I DO BELIEVE VERY STRONGLY IN THIS WORK BEING ESSENTIALLY, AGAIN, ADDRESSING THE LOSS OF GENERATIONAL WEALTH, WHICH I DON'T THINK WE CAN OVERSTATE.

WE KNOW THE NAMES OF MANY, MANY EXCEEDINGLY WEALTHY OIL FAMILIES IN TULSA, RIGHT, AND IN OKLAHOMA CITY.

AND THOSE FOLKS, THOSE WHITE FOLKS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PASS DOWN THEIR GENERATIONAL WEALTH FOR 100 OR SOME ODD YEARS TO THEIR HEIRS AND DESCENDANTS, RIGHT, THEY'VE THAT MONEY STAYED IN THE FAMILY.

WHAT BLACK TULSANS LOST WAS THAT SIGNIFICANT GENERATIONAL WEALTH WHERE LET'S SAY IF J.B. STRATFORD's HOTEL MAY NOT BE DESTROYED, WE MAY KNOW THAT LIKE WE KNOW THE HILTON OR MARRIOTTE.

YOU DON'T MANY FOLKS THINK ABOUT IT FROM THE BLACK STANDPOINT IN THAT REGARD.

THAT'S SIGNIFICANT GENERATIONAL WEALTH.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS IMPORTANT THAT THE MAYOR POINTED OUT IS THAT THE MASSACRE AFFECTED ALL OF TULSA.

ALL OF TULSA LOST BECAUSE MANY FELLOW SCHOLARS AND FOLKS SMARTER THAN I AM HAVE A MET METRICSUGGESTS THAT IT MIGHT BER FROM AN ECONOMIC GENERATIVE STANDPOINT LIKE IN ATLANTA OR CERTAINLY A CULTURAL OUTPOINT LIKE IN ATLANTA OR DALLAS.

TULSA IS A LONG WAY FROM ATLANTA.

THIS IS ONE POINT HE MADE ABOUT HELPING ALL OF TULSA SEE HOW DAMAGED THE ENTIRE CITY WAS BY THIS EPISODE THAT HAPPENED IN GREENWOOD.

>> WHAT ARE YOU HEAR PROCEEDINGE DESCENDANTS?

ARE PEOPLE HOPEFUL OR SKEPTICAL?

>> REPARATIONS FOR BLACK PEOPLE, SKEPTICISM WILL ONLY BE A ROLE NO MATTER WHO IS IN THE ADMINISTRATION.

I SPOKE TO THOSE WHO SUPPORT WHAT THE MAYOR IS DOING AND HAVE RALLIED BEHIND HIM.

THIS IS THE FIRST ADMINISTRATION THAT HAS EVER TAKEN THIS LARGE OF A STEP TOWARDS DIRECTLY REPAIRING THE COMMUNITY AND THE FAMILIES THAT WERE TORN APART DURING THE MASSACRE AND IN THE DECADES THAT FOLLOWED.

AND SO, THEY ALL ARE SUPPORTIVE.

THEY DO WANT TO ENSURE THESE FUNDS WHEN RAISED GO DIRECTLY TO THESE PROGRAMS THAT SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY AND NOT SIMPLY TO GENERALIZE FUNDS IN THE BUDGET BUT SPECIFICALLY DEDICATED TO THESE COMMUNITIES, TO THIS REPAIR PLAN.

BUT THEY ARE SUPPORTIVE AND BEHIND HIM.

>> HOW DO WE EXPECT THE COMMUNITY AND LEADERS TO WORK TO ENSURE THE GREENWOOD TRUST IS MANAGED FAIRLY?

>> YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A BOARD OF ADVISERS AND TRUSTEES THAT WILL MANAGE THIS TRUST.

THIS IS A COMMUNITY THAT HAS HELD THIS GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE LAST CENTURY.

SO I EXPECT THEM TO HOLD THIS CURRENT ADMINISTRATION JUST AS ACCOUNTABLE TO WHAT THEY SAW THEY'RE GOING TO DO.

>> HOW CAN EFFORTS LIKE THE GREENWOOD TRUST CONTRIBUTE TO HEALING AND BUILDING A STRONGER FUTURE, NOT JUST FOR TULSA BUT OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY?

>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, CASSIDY.

IT'S A TRICKY ONE AS WELL.

THIS IS IN EVANSTON AND WILMINGTON AND DOWN IN ROSEWOOD AND THE FLORIDA AREA.

THERE ARE VARYING DEGREES OF SUCCESS AND WHAT'S IMPORTANT HERE IS THAT, ONE, THAT -- I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK IN GENERALIZATION, BUT YOU WOULD SAY THAT MANY BLACK FOLKS IN TULSA HAVE A DISTRESSED OR THE GOVERNMENT, THERE HAVE BEEN MANR MORE OF BROKEN PROMISES AND FALLED ATTEMPTS TO EXTEND AN OLIVE BRANCH.

AND SO, I WOULD SAY A LARGE PORTION OF THE BLACK PEOPLE IN TULSA ARE SKEPTICAL EVEN WITH THE BLACK MAYOR IN CITY HALL.

AND SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE MAYOR, FOR THE CITY GOVERNMENT TO CONTINUE TO UPDATE AND APPRAISE AND CAN HAVE COMPLETE TRANSPARENCY WITH ALL OF TULSA FOR SURE.

BUT WITH BLACK TULSANS IN SPECIFIC BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO ASSURE THAT BLACK TULSA WILL ENGAGE AND SUPPORT THIS MISSION.

WE HAVE BEEN BURNED BEFORE MANY TIMES.

AND SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE MAYOR AND FOR THE CITY TO BE COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT, TO MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS ARE UP TO DATE ON WHAT IS HAPPENING ON THAT VOTE.

THAT THE COMMUNITY IS INVOLVED AND THERE'S SEVERAL COMMISSIONS ALREADY IN PLACE IN THE ART's COMMISSION, BEYOND THE POLICY COMMISSION WHO IS SPARING THIS E THE PARTICULAR COMMISSION HAS EXPERIENCED A BIT OF, I DON'T KNOW, SLIGHT OF HAND.

IT'S VERY CRITICAL THAT BLACK TULSANS ARE CONSISTENTLY ENGAGED FOR THAT BUY-IN AND SUPPORT.

AND THAT IS ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT KEYS TO THE SUCCESS OF THE MAYOR's PLAN.

>> IS THERE NUG YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THAT?

>> I MANY, I COSIGN THAT COMPLETELY.

I THINK TRANSPARENCY IS THE NAME OF THE GAME.

THERE WAS A HUGE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY ONCE THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION STARTED TO REALIZE WHAT WAS HERE IN TERMS OF THE MASS GRAVES BEING FOUND AND IT WAS GROWING NATIONWIDE AND THE PRESSURE WAS ON.

SO WHEN THE PRESSURE COMES ON TO THIS ADMINISTRATION AS IT CERTAINLY WILL, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE NATIONAL CLIMATE, I AGREE, IT'S CRITICAL, CRITICAL FOR THIS MAYOR TO BE AS TRANSPARENT WITH THIS COMMUNITY AS POSSIBLE IN ORDER FOR THIS COMMUNITY TO REALLY HAVE THE SUPPORT AND THE BACKING THAT THE MAYOR NEEDS TO KEEP PUSHING.

>> AND WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN NEXT FOR THE GREENWOOD TRUST PROPOSAL TO MOVE FORWARD AND ARE WE WORRIED ABOUT THE CHALLENGES IN THE PROCESS?

>> WELL, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THE TRUST CAN BEGIN RAISING FUNS NOW.

THE GOAL IS TO RAISE THIS $105 MILLION BY THE NEXT ANNIVERSARY, WHICH WILL BE THE 105th ANNIVERSARY OF THE MASSACRE ON JUNE 1st, 2026.

AND SO, PEOPLE CAN START DOE MATING NOW AND ORGANIZATIONS CAN START DONATING NOW.

PROPERTY CAN BE DONATED FOR THIS TRUST.

AND SO, THE RACE IS ON.

THE RACE IS ON TO GET THIS STARTED.

I WOULD JUST REITERATE THAT ASIDE FROM THE LOGICAL ARGUMENT, YOU KNOW, OF WHAT'S OWED THIS COMMUNITY, THE MORAL ARGUMENT, YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING I THINK PEOPLE SHOULD REALLY AMPLIFY AT THIS TIME.

AS THE MAYOR EVEN EXPLAINED, WHEN TALKING ABOUT HOW THE MASSACRE IMPACTED ALL OF TULSA, RESTORING GREENWOOD RESTORES ALL OF TULSA AND THAT'S SOMETHING IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

>> WE'LL END IT THERE AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US, GENTLEMEN, FOR THIS DISCUSSION.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Rich: AND CASSIDY, THANK YOU, AS WELL.

>>> ANYONE CAN HELP PRESERVE HISTORY.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A TRAINED HISTORIAN.

YOU HAVE TO CARE ABOUT KEEPING THE PAST ALIVE OF THE NEXT GENERATION.

THAT'S IN THE NATIONALVIEW.

WE TALK YOU TO SOUTH DAKOTA TO RETRACE THE STEPS OF THE OLD DEADWOOD TRAIL THAT ZIG-GAGS THROUGH THE TRAIL LANDS.

THAT'S POSSIBLE FROM SOUTH DAKOTA PUBLIC BROADCASTING.

♪♪ ♪♪ >> YOU LOVE HISTORY, YOU LOVE SOUTH DAKOTA HISTORY.

I STARTED TALKING TO PEOPLE AND TRYING TO GET INTEREST AND SEE IF THERE'S INTEREST IN RESTORING THE TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK THAT'S NEEDED.

THERES SOME HISTORY HERE THAT COULD BE SAVED THAT PEOPLE JUST NEVER KNOW IF IT'S NOT KEPT UP.

THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO.

>> Reporter: LYNN BRIGGS JUST REPLACED ANOTHER SIGN ALONG THE INDIAN TRAIL.

IT'S ONE THAT ROY AND EDITH NORMAN PUT UP.

>> THOSE WERE TWO SIGNS AND THAT WAS THE FIRST TRAIL HE MARKED.

AND THEN I KNOW IN 1976, HE PUT UP 86 SIGNS AND THOSE ARE INDIAN TRAILS, ROUTES, ARMY TRAILS AND THEN HE MARKED THE TELEGRAPH LINE.

>> Reporter: ROY AND EDITH BECAME INSPIRED AFTER READING A BOOK ON HISTORY AND INSTALLED THESE WOODEN SIGNS.

>> HE SAID, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS YOUNG, I TRAVELED THESE TRAILS A LOT.

THOSE OLD TRAILS, HE WANTED TO MARK THEM AND PRESERVE THEM FOR HISTORY.

>> Reporter: THE EXTENSIVE RESEARCH LEAD TO A NUMBER OF BOXES FILLED WITH LEGAL PADS FULL OF NOTES.

THIS WAS DONATED TO THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY WHICH WAS AN ADDITIONS TO THE ARCHIVE.

>> IT WAS THE DIFFERENT TRIALS AND THE NOTES WE HAVE HERE INCLUDE THE SIGNS THEMSELVES, THE COSTS, HOW MANY SIGNS THEY PUT UP AND WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED.

>> Reporter: HE USES THOSE TO REPLACE THE ORIGINAL NORMAN SIGNS.

WHILE A NUMBER ARE CONVENIENTLY LOCATED ALONG HIGHWAY ROADS, THE REST ARE SCATTERED ACROSS THE PRAIRIE.

THANKS TO THE EFFORTS BY LANDOWNERS, THESE SIGNS ARE FOUND AND REPLACED, TOO.

>> THERE'S A LOT OF LANDOWNERS.

WITHOUT THEM, WE COULDN'T HAVE DONE ANYTHING.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MY GRANDPARENTS DID IT AND THREE YEARS, THEY GOT THOSE SIGNS UP, BUT WE CAN'T HARDLY TRACK THEM AND IT'S AMAZING.

>> YOU CAN TELL THEY LOVED HISTORY VERY MUCH ESPECIALLY IN THAT PART OF THE CITY.

THEY WANTED TO PRESERVE IT AND MAYBE SURE IT LASTED BEYOND THEIR LIFETIME, WHICH IT HAS.

>> Reporter: ON THIS DAY, HE REPLACED TO TWO SIGNS, SIGNS READY TO EXPERIENCE DECADES OF SOUTH DAKOTA WEATHER WHILE PRESERVING THE TRAILS FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.

>> Rich: ON THE NEXT EDITION, THERE'S ONLY ONE LEVEL ONE TRAUMA CENTER IN THE ENTIRE STATE OF OKLAHOMA, BUT SOON, THERE'S GOING TO BE TWO AND THAT IS BIG NEWS FOR PEOPLE LIVING IN THE NORTHEAST PART OF THE STATE.

TAELYR JACKSON WILL HAVE OUR REPORT AT 7:00.

>>> WE'LL SAY SO LONG THIS WEEK WITH A LOOK BACK AT THE THUNDER UP IN THE PARK ON JUNE 8th PUT TOGETHER BY LEGACY COTEL.

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