>> Braude: TONIGHT ON "GREATER BOSTON," FOUR YEARS-PLUS AFTER THE FIRST "MARCH FOR OUR LIVES" BROUGHT TOGETHER HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, CALLING FOR GUN SAFETY REFORMS.

THEY'RE GEARING UP AGAIN FOR JUNE 11 IN D.C., AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

I'M JOINED BY ONE OF THE MOVEMENT'S CO-FOUNDERS-- A PARKLAND SCHOOL SHOOTING SURVIVOR-- AND ONE OF THE ORGANIZERS OF THE BOSTON MARCH, ON JUST WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IN THE DAYS AND WEEKS AHEAD.

THEN, MONKEYPOX: TO BE FEARED OR JUST FOLLOWED?

AND WHAT OF THE FACT THAT THE KIND OF RESOURCES BEING POURED INTO A SMALL NUMBER OF CASES IN WESTERN EUROPE AND THE U.S. ARE SIMPLY NOT AVAILABLE IN AFRICA, WHICH HAS FELT THE FULL BRUNT OF THE DISEASE?

THE BOSTON DOCTOR WHO DIAGNOSED THE FIRST U.S. CASE IN THE OUTBREAK JOINS ME WITH HER TAKE.

>> Braude: ON THE HEELS OF YET ANOTHER MASS SHOOTING THAT KILLED FOUR PEOPLE YESTERDAY AT A HOSPITAL IN TULSA, OKLAHOMA, AND THE UVALDE ELEMENTARY MASSACRE LAST WEEK, AND THE BUFFALO SUPERMARKET MURDERS BEFORE THAT, AND THE 30-PLUS MASS SHOOTINGS THAT HAPPENED IN BETWEEN-- AND THAT IS THE REAL NUMBER.

THE MARCH FOR OUR LIVES MOVEMENT IS ONCE AGAIN GEARING UP TO CALL FOR CHANGE JUST AS THEY FIRST DID MORE THAN FOUR YEARS AGO, LED BY THE SURVIVORS OF THE PARKLAND, FLORIDA SCHOOL SHOOTING.

AMONG THEM, DAVID HOGG, WHO EXPLAINED TO ME JUST A FEW MONTHS BACK WHY HE AND OTHERS KEEP FIGHTING FOR CHANGE, IN SPITE OF ALL THE RESISTANCE THEY'VE FACED.

>> OPTIMISM ISN'T A CHOICE WHEN KIDS ARE DYING.

WE HAVE TO KEEP WORKING NO MATTER WHAT WE THINK THE FUTURE HOLDS.

THE REALITY IS, IT'S GOING TO TAKE GENERATIONS OF PEOPLE DOING THIS IF WE'RE JUST FOCUSED AT THE STATE LEVEL AND WE DON'T ADDRESS THE FACT THAT THE FILIBUSTER IS EFFECTIVELY KILLING OUR CHILDREN, BECAUSE WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO ENACT COMMON SENSE GUN LAWS.

>> Braude: AND THAT CALL FOR COMMON SENSE GUN LAWS AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL WILL ECHO ACROSS THE COUNTRY ONCE AGAIN, WITH ANOTHER MARCH FOR OUR LIVES DEMONSTRATION NEXT SATURDAY, JUNE 11th, IN WASHINGTON, D.C., AND MORE THAN 300 OTHER SISTER EVENTS IN OTHER CITIES, INCLUDING HERE IN BOSTON.

JOINING ME ARE TWO OF THE LEADERS BEHIND THESE EVENTS: PARKLAND SHOOTING SURVIVOR AND MARCH FOR OUR LIVES CO-FOUNDER JACLYN CORIN, WHO'S A RISING SENIOR AT HARVARD; AND BOSTON MARCH ORGANIZER CHARLOTTE VINCENT, A RECENT GRADUATE OF BROOKLINE HIGH.

WELCOME TO BOTH OF YOU.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.

>> Braude: AND I SHOULD JUST SAY QUICKLY FOR THOSE WHO LIKE TO THINK THIS KIND OF THING DOESN'T HAPPEN HERE, JUST BEFORE WE STARTED TAPING THIS SEGMENT, WE LEARNED OF A 16-YEAR-OLD WHO WAS ARRESTED AFTER BRINGING A LOADED GUN TO A CHARTER SCHOOL IN CHELSEA, MASSACHUSETTS.

THANKFULLY, NO ONE WAS HURT.

JACLYN MORE AND MORE RESPONSIBLE JOURNALISTS ARE ENSURING THAT WE LEARN ABOUT THE LIVES OF PEOPLE WHO WERE KILLED IN THESE ATROCITIES BUT WE DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT SURVIVORS.

YOU ARE ONE.

FOUR YEARS AFTER PARKLAND AND AFTER UVALDE, HOW ARE YOU?

>> WELL, I MEAN, THAT IS A LOADED QUESTION.

THE REALITY IS, IS THAT IF YOU ARE A PART OF A COMMUNITY THAT GOES THROUGH A MASS SHOOTING, YOU ARE NEVER FULLY HEALED.

YOU KNOW, THE SHOOTING AT MY HIGH SCHOOL THAT KILLED 17 PEOPLE HAPPENED ALMOST FOUR AND A HALF YEARS AGO AND I AM SO ABSOLUTELY STRAWM ADVERTISED.

I MEAN I CAN'T GO ANYWHERE WITHOUT FEARING THAT SOMEONE IS CARRYING A GUN BEHIND ME.

AND THAT'S WHAT A LOT OF SURVIVORS LIVE LIKE EVERY SINGLE DAY.

AND BECAUSE THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, THERE HAS BEEN OVER 200 MASS SHOOTINGS JUST THIS YEAR SO FAR AND WE'RE BARELY HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR, YOU CAN ONLY IMAGINE THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF SURVIVORS OF GUN VIOLENCE THAT GO THROUGH THE SAME THING EVERY SINGLE DAY, DAY IN AND DAY OUT.

AND IT'S NOT JUST IN SCHOOL.

IT IS IN OUR HOSPITALS, IT IS IN MOVIE THEATERS, IN OUR CHURCHES, IN OUR SYNAGOGUES T IS EVERYWHERE THIS THIS COUNTRY.

NO ONE IS SAFE.

>> Braude: JACLYN, IT SEEMS TO ME FROM AFAR THAT SOMEONE LIKE YOU FACES TWO CHOICES AFTER LIVING THROUGH A TRAUMA LIKE THAT.

YOU CAN CHOOSE TO FIGHT WHICH MEANS YOU HAVE TO RELIVE THIS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

OR TURN AWAY FROM IT.

WHY DID YOU CHOOSE THE FORMER?

>> YEAH, WELL, I MEAN PARTLY IT WAS SURVIVORS GUILT THAT WAS WITH ME EVERY DAY KNOWING THAT I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO BE ALIVE.

I NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE WITH MY FEAR.

ON BEHALF OF MY FRIENDS THAT WERE KILLED.

AND THEN ANOTHER HALF OF IT WAS YOU KNOW, I STOOD UP IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE SHOOTING AT MY SCHOOL BECAUSE I HAD BEEN AWARE OF THE INFLUENCES OF THE NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION IN OUR POLITICS.

BUT AS I PROGRESSED THROUGH THE GUN SAFETY MOVEMENT I LEARNED MORE AND MORE ABOUT THE BARRIERS THAT EXIST IN OUR POLITICS THAT PREVENT COMMON SENSE GUN LEGISLATION FROM PASSING IN THIS COUNTRY.

AND YOU KNOW, THAT MADE ME EVEN MORE ANGRY AND EVERYONE ASKED, WHAT DO YOU FEEL WHEN THESE SHOOTINGS HAPPEN ALL THE TIME.

OFTEN MY FIRST EMOTION IS ANGER BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

THERE ARE PREVENTIBLE, COMMON SENSE LEGISLATION THAT CAN BE PASSED, AND HAVE BEEN PASSED ON A STATE LEVEL.

I MEAN MASSACHUSETTS IS ONE OF THE STATES WITH THE STRONGEST GUN LAWS IN THE COUNTRY AND CONSEQUENTLY HAS THE SECOND LOWEST GUN DEATH RATE IN THE U.S.

SO THERE IS A CORRELATION THERE STVMENT JUST INFURIATING.

>> Braude: CHARLOTTE, WHAT IS YOUR MOTD SEPARATION?

YOU ARE YOU AN OUTLIAR AMONGST YOUR CONTEMPORARIES OR ARE YOU THE NORM, DO YOU THINK?

>> YEAH, I BECAME INVOLVED WITH THE MOVEMENT BACK IN 2018.

I ACTUALLY HELPED THE WALKOUT IN MY SCHOOL FOLLOWING PARKLAND.

WE WILL THOUSANDS OF STUDENTS WALK OUT THAT DAY, AND THAT WAS REALLY THE FIRST TIME I REALIZED THAT THIS IS A MOVEMENT.

AND THERE ARE SO MANY OF MY PEERS THAT ARE BEHIND ME.

AND EVEN FOR THIS NEXT MARCH ON JUNE 119, I HAVE HAD SO MANY PEOPLE REACHING OUT TO ME SAYING WE ARE BEHIND YOU.

AND I THINK THAT WE ARE HERE TO SHOW THAT WE ARE THE GENERATION THAT KENNED GUN VIOLENCE.

AND.

>> GO AHEAD.

>> NO, I JUST THINK THAT IT'S REALLY POWERFUL TO SEE BUT IT ALSO IS YOU KNOW, IT'S A MOVEMENT THAT GROWS EVERY DAY AND THERE ARE OBSTACLES THAT WE FACE EVERY DAY ESPECIALLY AS WE WAIT MORE LIVES ARE LOST EACH DAY AND I THINK THAT CAN DEFINITELY GET T GETS HARD BUT WE KEEP GOING.

>> Braude: EXPLAIN CHARLOTTE EXPLAIN JUNE 119 TO ME.

IS IT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING OR BECAUSE YOU BELIEVE AND OTHERS BELIEVE THAT THIS TIME MIGHT BE DIFFERENT, THERE IS REASON FOR HOPE WHAT IS BEHIND IT?

>> YEAH, SO WE BELIEVE, WE REALLY FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT THIS TIME IS DIFFERENT.

JUNE 119 ACROSS THE COUNTRY, WE ALREADY HAVE OVER 400 MARCHS PLANNED.

AND WE ARE HERE TO DEMAND THAT SENATOR SCHUMER CALL A VOTE ON BACKGROUND CHECKS AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME TO GET LAWMAKERS ON THE RECORD FOR SOMETHING THAT OVER 90% OF AMERICANS SUPPORT.

AND WE ARE HERE TO SHOW THAT WE ARE GOING TO END GUN VIOLENCE AND WE ARE COMING OUT IN RECORD NUMBERS ONCE AGAIN.

WE MADE A LOT OF CHANGE AFTER 2018 BUT LIKE DAVID HOGG MENTIONED IN THAT SEGMENT YOU SHOWED EARLIER, THE MOVEMENT CONTINUES IT IS GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF WORK TO GET THAT DONE.

>> JACLYN AS CALLOUS AND UNCARING AS THE OBSTACLES TO-- OBSTACLES TO CHANGE IN CONGRESS ARE, YOU WERE SORT OF LIVING PROOF THAT THERE IS NO OBSTACLE TOO HIGH WHEN YOU LEAD THE LEGISLATIVE EFFORT AFTER THE MURDERS AT YOUR SCHOOL, A PLUS NRA GUY, NOW UNITED STATES SENATOR, THEN GOVERNOR RICK SCOTT IS RUNNING THE STATE, AND CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG, IT HAS BEEN AWHILE, THREE DAY WAITING PERIOD, RAISING THE PURCHASE AGE TO 21, AND BANNING BUMP STOCKS, AM I NOT RIGHT ABOUT THAT?

>> YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ABOUT THAT.

AFTER I BROUGHT A HUNDRED OF MY PEEFERS TO THE FLORIDA STATE CAPITOL OF TALLAHASSEE, SIX DAYS AFTER THE SHOOTING AT HAWAII SCHOOL, WE DID PASS ALL OF THOSE LAWS.

AND INCLUDING EXTREMIST PROTECTION ORDERS WHICH BASICALLY YOU KNOW, ALLOWS LAW ENFORCEMENT TO TEMPORARILY REMOVE A FIRE ARM FROM SOMEONE WHO EXHIBITS SIGNS OF WANTING TO HURT THEMSELVES OR OTHERS BECAUSE A LOT OF WHAT GUN VIOLENCE IS AS WELL AS PREVENTING GUN SUICIDE.

AND SO ALL OF THOSE PIECES OF LEGISLATION HAVE BEEN PROVEEN TO SAVE LIVES IN FLORIDA.

AND I WILL KIND OF ANSWER THE QUESTION YOU POINTED AT CHARLOTTE AS WELL.

AFTER THE MARCH IN 2018, WE SAW RECORD-BREAKING NUMBERS OF GUN SAFETY LAWS PASSED IN A LOT OF STATES.

NOT ONLY JUST FLORIDA.

I MEAN WE SAW FLORIDA LEGISLATION.

WE ALSO SAW STREAMER PROTECTION ORDERS IN VIRGINIA OR THE PROHIBITION OF FIRE ARMS AT POLLING PLACE IN COLORADO.

AND ALL OF THOSE, ALL OF OUR HARD WORK ALSO LEAD TO I BELIEVE 32NRABACKED CANDIDATES LOSING THEIR RACES IN 2018.

SO THOUGH PEOPLE FEEL FRUSES TRAITED THAT NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE ON A NATIONAL LEVEL, BESIDES BANNING BUMP STOCKS AND SURPRISINGLY TRUMP DID THAT, STUFF IS HAPPENING ON THE STATE LEVEL.

AND THAT IS WHY WE ARE MARCHING AGAIN BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO PUSH FOR THAT MOVEMENT ON THE STATE LEVEL TO HAPPEN ON A NATIONAL LEVEL.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT.

>> GUN.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT, AND I KNOW THE TARGET IS WASHINGTON THIS TIME AND HOGG SAID THAT AS WELL BUT I WOULD ARGUE PART OF THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED IS AT LEAST IN MY OPINION THE MOST INFLUENTIAL MEN IN WASHINGTON, THAT IS MITCH McCONNELL.

AND HERE HE IS TUESDAY SPEAKING TO A REPORTER.

>> WE HAVE A GROUP LEAD BY SENATOR CORNYN AND SENATOR MURPHY ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE, DISCUSSING HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO COME TOGETHER TO TARGET THE PROBLEM WHICH IS MENTAL ILLNESS, AND SCHOOL SAFETY.

>> Braude: JACLYN, NOTICE A WORD MISSING FROM WHAT THE PROBLEM IS WITH MITCH McCONNELL THERE?

>> NO MENTION OF GUNS.

>> Braude: NO MENTION OF GUNS.

>> AND IT IS, YOU KNOW I KNOW MITCH McCONNELL KNOWS BETTER BUT THE REALITY IS THAT HE GETS HIS POCKETS STUFFED WITH MONEY FROM THE NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION.

BECAUSE IT IS INTO THE JUST A MATTER OF SCHOOL SAFETY.

THIS, I MEAN WE SAW YESTERDAY THAT IT HAPPENED IN A HOSPITAL.

THIS HAPPENS EVERYWHERE IN THIS COUNTRY.

WE CANNOT FOCUS ON SCHOOL SAFETY.

I MEAN ARMING TEACHERS IS A RIDICULOUS, RIDICULOUS SENTIMENTS.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR STUDENTS, OUR KIDS RATHER ARE SAFE WHEN THEY ARE IN SCHOOL, YES, BUT ALSO SCHOOL IS OUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUNE.

KIDS ARE GOING TO BE WALKING THE STREETS, GOING TO CHURCH, HOW DO WE PROTECT THEM THEN, MITCH.

>> Braude: JACLYN, YOU MENTIONED THE ABSURDITY OF ARMING TEACHES.

ONE OF THE DEMENTED PHONEY ARGUMENTS WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE OPPONENTS FOREVER AND YOU CAN PRACTICALLY REPEAT IT WORD FOR WORD I'M SURE IS THE ANTIDOTE TO THE BAD GUY WITH THE GUN ARE GOOD GUYS WITH A GUN.

MI WONDERING WHAT THEY ARE SAYING AFTER THE KOCHS WAITING OUTSIDE IN UVALDE OR THE COURAGEOUS FORMER COP TURNED SECURITY PERSON AT THE TOPS SUPERMARKET IN BUFFALO WHO WAS ARMED AND DID SHOOT AT THE KILLER.

THAT ARGUMENT IS GONE.

THE NOTION THAT LAWS DON'T MATTER WHEN THE SHOOTER IN UVALDE WAITED UNTIL HE WAS 18 YEARS OLD, WHICH IS WHAT THE LAW REQUIRES, TO BUY THE DAMN A ASSAULT WEAPON, EVEN THOUGH THE ARGUMENTS HAVE BEEN TOTALLY UNDERCUT THAT DOESN'T MOVE PEOPLE, DOES IT JACLYN?

>> YOU KNOW, THE GOOD GUY WITH THE GUN ARGUMENT IS ABSOLUTELY ABSURD IT ALSO HAPPENED AT MY SCHOOL.

THERES WITH AN ARMED SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER THAT WAS TOO SCARED TO ENTER THE BUILDING WHILE A 19 YEAR OLD KILLED 17 PEOPLE.

AND SO YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST AN EXCUSE IT IS PURE SELFISHNESS IN POLITICS AND THAT IS WHY AMERICANS NEED TO SHOW UP TO THE POLLS THIS NOVEMBER AND THE MID-TERMS AND ELECT OFFICIAL THATION WILL ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT CHILDREN DYING.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE REALITY IS IN THIS COUNTRY.

>> Braude: I WANT TO GET YOUR'S ACTION-- REACTION, EACH OF YOU IF I CAN, TO A COUPLE OTHER, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO CALL THEM, TRAGIC SUGGESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE BY PEOPLE WHO WHO ARE ON YOUR SIDE, CHARLOTTE, STARTING WITH YOU.

HERE IS JEH JOHNSON, FORM ERR HOMELAND SECURITY HEAD FOR BARACK OBAMA ON MSNBC.

HERE IS WHAT HE HAD TO SAY.

>> WHY SHOULD A CHILD WHO WAS AN EYE WITNESS TO WHAT HAPPENED IN UVALDE, FOR EXAMPLE, GO TO GRIEF COUNSELING FOR THE REST OF HER LIFE BECAUSE OF WHAT SHE SAW BUT THE REST OF US ARE SPARED.

>> Braude: WHAT HE WENT ON TO SAY IS WE NEED AN EMMITT HILL MOMENT AND I GUESS HE SHOULD HAVE SAID A MAMI TILL BRADLEY, HIS MOTHER, I'M SURE MOST VIEWERS KNOW, 14 YEAR OLD BLACK BOY IN MISSISSIPPI IN 1955, ALLEGEDLY SAID SOMETHING, OFFENDED A WHITE WOMAN, ABDUCTED, TORTURED, LYNCHED, MUTILATED AND HIS MOTHER DECIDED TO HAVE AN OPEN CASKET SO THAT PEOPLE COULD SEE WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM.

A LOT OF PEOPLE, AND HAVE I TO SAY MYSELF INCLUDED, CHARLOTTE, BELIEVE THAT IT IS AN ABSTRACT NOTION WHEN WE HEAR ABOUT LITTLE KIDS GETTING MURDERED BUT IT IS TIME FOR AN EMMITT TILL MOMENT, DO YOU THINK IT IS?

>> I THINK IT IS TO AN EXTENT.

I THINK WE HAVE TO PROTECT, YOU KNOW, THE RESPECT OF THE FAMILIES WHO ARE GRIEVING.

>> OF COURSE THEY WOULD DECIDE.

>> YES, OF COURSE, BUT I DO THIRKS I NOTICED AFTER UVALDE I SAW A LOT OF TWEETS AND A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC FIGURES CALLING FOR THIS.

AND I THINK THE IDEA THAT A PARENT CAN DROP THEIR CHILD OFF AT SCHOOL AND CAN ONLY IDENTIFY THEM FROM A DNA TEST IS JUST SOMETHING THAT IS SO TRAGIC BUT SO ABSTRACT FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH IT.

AND SO I DO THINK IT'S TIME FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THE POLITICIANS WHO REFUSE TO ACT ON THIS ISSUE, TO HAVE AN AWAKENING THROUGH WHAT THESE FAMILIES ARE GOING THROUGH.

>> Braude: YOU KNOW, AND ANOTHER TACTIC THAT, I DON'T MEAN TACTIC IN A CHEAP SORT OF WAY, JACLYN, THAT I READ ABOUT YESTERDAY IN THE ATLANTIC IN A PIECE WRITTEN BY GAL BECKERMAN WAS SPEND THE SUMMER, ALL YOU PARENTS OUT THERE WITH KIDS IN SCHOOLS, ORGANIZE, GET READY, AND IF CONGRESS HASN'T ACTED TO DO THE RIGHT THING ON GUN SAFETY BY THE FALL, KEEP YOUR KIDS OUT OF SCHOOL.

WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT?

>> YOU KNOW, I HONESTLY DON'T THINK IT'S A BAD IDEA.

I CAN TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHY PARENTS ARE PETRIFIED TO SEND THEIR CHILDREN TO SCHOOL.

AND IF THAT IS WHAT FINALLY MAKES THEM MOVE, THEN SO BE IT.

BOYCOTTS HAVE BEEN INCREDIBLY EFFECTIVE IN THIS COUNTRY.

AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE EVER SEEN SOMETHING TO THAT DEGREE, A BOYCOTT ON OUR EDUCATION SYSTEM.

BUT CHILDREN ARE BEING KILLED IN THE PLACE THAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO FEEL THE SAFEST, WHERE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO GROW AS HUMANS.

AND IF THAT IS WHAT IT TAKES, THAT IS WHAT IT TAKES.

>> BEFORE YOU TWO LEAVE I WOULD LIKE A QUICK RESPONSE FROM BOTH OF YOU STARTING WITH YOU, CHARLOTTE.

WHAT DO YOU SAY TO A PERSON WHO IS WATCHING WHO IS CONSIDERING PARTICIPATING IN MARCH FOR OUR LIVES AND JUNE 11th BUT IS SCEPTICAL THAT THE OBSTRUCTIONISTS ARE EVER GOING TO CARE MORE ABOUT KIDS THAN THEY CARE ABOUT GUN MANUFACTURERS, WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THEM?

>> YEAH, I SAY TO THEM FIRST OF ALL, PLEASE JOIN US.

WE NEED THIS MOVEMENT TO BE AS LARGE AS POSSIBLE TO MAKE AN IMPACT.

AND I WOULD SAY THAT WE SAW THE PROGRESS LIKE JACK LIN WAS MENTIONING AFTER 2018.

THERE WERE SO MANY LAWS ON THE STATE LEVEL THAT WERE PASSED.

AND YOUTH VOTER TURNOUT WENT UP EXPONENTIALLY FOLLOWING THE MARCH FOR OUR LIVES IN 2018.

SO WE ARE BACK, OUR GENERATION IS GETTING OLDER.

WE ARE GOINGS TO THE POLLS THIS NOVEMBER.

AND I WOULD SAY TO EVERYONE WATCHING, PLEASE COME WITH US AND BE PART OF A MOVEMENT.

BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO SEE IT IN NOVEMBER AND ALSO AS STATES MAKE ACTION THAT WE WILL FORCE THEM TOO.

>> Braude: DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT.

>> JUST IF YOU WANT TO MARCH, TEXT MARCH TO 954954 AND FIND YOUR LOCAL MARCH OR JOIN US IN WASHINGTON D.C. FOR THE MAIN MARCH.

>> Braude: JK LIN AND CHARLOTTE, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND WISH YOU ALOT OF LUCK ON JUNE 119 AND THEREFORE AFTER.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU.

THE MARCH FOR OUR LIVES DEMONSTRATIONS WILL TAKE PLACE NEXT SATURDAY, JUNE 11th.

FOR MORE INFORMATION ON THE EVENTS IN BOSTON, WASHINGTON D.C., OR THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, HEAD TO marchforourlives.com.

AS OF NOW, THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION HAS CLASSIFIED MONKEYPOX AS "MODERATE" RISK, WITH AT LEAST 257 CONFIRMED CASES ACROSS 23 COUNTRIES, INCLUDING IN EUROPE AND NORTH AMERICA.

THE VIRUS HAS BEEN CONSIDERED ENDEMIC TO PARTS OF CENTRAL AND WESTERN AFRICA FOR DECADES, WITH CASES RISING STEADILY SINCE THE 1970s, BUT A GLOBAL SPREAD, EVEN OF THIS LIMITED MAGNITUDE IS, OBVIOUSLY, NEW.

AS OF THIS PAST TUESDAY, THE U.S. HAD AT LEAST 17 CASES IN NINE STATES, THE FIRST OF WHICH WAS DISCOVERED RIGHT HERE IN BOSTON.

SO HOW MUCH OF A THREAT IS MONKEYPOX TO A POPULATION STILL SHAKEN BY COVID?

I'M JOINED BY THE DOCTOR WHO MADE THAT FIRST DIAGNOSIS, DR. NESLI BASGOZ, ASSOCIATE CHIEF AND CLINICAL DIRECTOR OF THE INFECTIOUS DISEASE DIVISION AT MASS GENERAL HOSPITAL.

>> Braude: DR. NESLI BASGOZ, DOCTOR TRK SAY PLEASURE TO MEET YOU.

>> A PLEASURE TO MEETS YOU AS WELL.

>> THE STORY WRITTEN ABOUT YOUR DIAGNOSIS READ LIKE A MYSTERY TWHRIL THRILL-- THRILLER.

YOU MEET THE PATIENT ON ADMISSION MAY 12th.

PENICILLIN AND ANTIVIRALS DON'T WORK AND ST ONLY AFTER THE SYMPTOMS APPEAR, A RASH-LIKE SYMPTOM THAT APPEAR I THINK LIKE SMALL POX EVEN THOUGH IT HAS BEEN ERADICATED THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN THIS BEGINS THE CRACK OPEN.

WHAT HAPPENED?

>> WELL, PART OF WHAT WE DO IN PATIENTS IS TO OBSERVE THE TRAJECTORY OF THEIR ILLNESS, THE EVOLUTION OF THEIR ILLNESS.

AND INITIALLY HIS RASH LOOKED VERY MUCH LIKE CHICKEN POX TO ME.

AND WE CONSIDERED THAT POSSIBILITY.

WE CONSIDERED SEXUALLY TRANSMIT INFECTIONS.

IT WAS ONLY IN WATCHING HIM EVERY DAY FOR SEVERAL DAYS IN A ROW THAT I SAW HIM WORSEN DESPITE THE TREATMENT.

AND I ALSO SAW THE RASH CHANGE OVER TIME, AT LEAST SOME OF THE SKIN LESIONS THAT WERE QUITE PERSISTENT WERE CHANGING.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS I LOVED ABOUT THE GLOBE STORY AND ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCE IS THE INTENSE COLLABORATION THAT HAPPENED ALMOST IN A NANO SECOND WITH PEOPLE LOCALLY, STATEWIDE, INTERNATIONALLY.

I SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THE SHOW RATING ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE LEARNED NOTHING FROM COVID.

BUT ONE OF YOUR COLLEAGUES IN THAT GLOBE STORY SAYS WERE IT NOT FOR TE EXPERIENCE OF COVID THE LEVEL OF, FOR EXAMPLE, INTERNATIONAL COLLABORATION AT WARPED SPEEDS COULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED.

DO YOU BUY THAT ANALYSIS?

>> I THINK IT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE.

I THINK THESE EFFORTS STARTED LONG BEFORE COVID, SORT OF ONE HELD EFFORT WORLDWIDE BUT THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT COVID ACCELERATED THEM.

>> YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF YOU KNOW THIS BETTER THAN I STILL TRAUMATIZED, I SHOULDN'T SAY STILL TRAUMATIZED BY COVID YOU, THEY HEAR THE WHO SAY MODERATE RISK AND WHAT I HEAR ON MY RADIO SHOW IS EARLY IN JANUARY OF 2020, THAT SAME WHO SAID THAT COVID WAS NOT A PUBLIC HEALTH RISK UNTIL IT WAS.

WHAT IS YOUR ASSESSMENT OF THE RISK TOLD OF MONKEY POX IN OUR COUNTRY?

>> I THINK THAT IT IS LIKELY THERE WILL BE MORE PATIENTS WHO ARE DIAGNOSED WITH MONKEYPOX, HOWEVER I THINK IT IS A PAST EXPERIENCE WITH OUTBREAKS IN AFRICA WHERE ITS DISEASE IS ENDEMIC.

BUT ALSO IN THE U.S.

THERE WAS AN OUTBREAK RELATED TO INFECTIOUS PRAIRIE DOGS FROM GHANA THAT WERE IMPORTED HERE AND IT RESULTED IN SEVERAL CASES.

AND IT WAS ABLE TO BE SHUT DOWN PRETTY READILY BECAUSE THE KIND OF CONTACT REQUIRED CAN BE PREVENTED.

>> BY THE WAY THERE ARE VACCINES FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, ARE THERE NOT?

>> THERE ARE.

THERE ARE TWO VACCINES, ONE OF WHICH IS SPECIFICALLY APPROVED FOR MONKEYPOX THAT ARE SAFE AND EFFECTIVE VACCINES.

>> ONE OF THE PLOS PAINFUL PARTS OF READING ABOUT THE STORY FOR ME IS THAT SOME OF THE VACCINES AND THE DRUGS THAT ARE AVAILABLE IN EUROPE AND THE UNITED STATES WHERE THERE HAD BEEN NO DEATHS ARE NOT AVAILABLE IN THE KEY PARTS OF AFRICA WHERE THE NUMBERS, WE CAN PUT THEM UP, HAD BEEN MUCH HIGHER.

THE NUMBER OF DEATHS SOMEWHERE IN THE '60S KIND OF THING.

IS THIS JUST ANOTHER DEADLY EXAMPLE OF HEALTH INEQUITIES NOT WITHIN OUR BOFERREDDERS BUT AROUND THE WORLD?

>> I THINK YOU SAID THAT CORRECTLY F SAY DEADLY EXAMPLE OF HEALTH AND EQUITIES, PARTICULARLY IN THE CONGRESSO WHERE THE MORE VIRULENT OR LETHAL THINGS CIRCULATE.

IN WESTAFER CA I THINK THE STRAIN THAT SICKENS OUR PATIENTS IS LESS SEVERE.

BUT YES T IS AN EXAMPLE OF HEALTH INEQUITY AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF LEARNING FROM THEIR EXPERIENCE BUT WE'RE NOT TRANSFERRING ANYTHING BACK TO THEM IN TERMS OF PREVENTION AND TREATMENT.

>> DO YOU THINK THAT WILL CHANGE AS MORE OF THE SPOTS LIGHTED IS DIRECTEDDED ON THAT INEQUITY, THAT DISCREPANCY OR IS IT SORT OF DISEDGEA YOU HAVE ALL OVER AGAIN?

I THINK THERE HAS BEEN PROGRESS AND CHANGES IN CERTAIN AREAS IN TERMS OF PREVENTION AND TREATMENT WITH VACCINE INITIATIVES.

AND ALSO INITIATIVES TO ADDRESS THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT LEAD TO HEALTH INEQUITIES.

>> YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW AND I'M SURE MOST OF THE PEOPLE WATCHING ARE AWARE THAT IN MOST OF THE CASES THAT HAVE BEEN DIAGNOSED HERE, THERE ARE REPORTS THAT THE PATIENTS WERE MEN WHO HAD RECENTLY HAD SEX WITH OTHER MEN, BUT THE WHO WENT OUT OF ITS WAY TO SAY THIS IS QUOTE NOT A GAY DISEASE.

THAT NO ONE GROUP IS MORE SUSCEPTIBLE, MORE AT RISK THAN ANY OTHER.

IS THAT TRUE IN YOUR ESTIMATION?

>> IT IS TRUE.

THERE IS NO GROUP THAT IS MORE SUSCEPTIBLE TO THE INFECTION AND ST PRETTY CLEAR THAT CLOSE CONTACT IS REQUIRED AND CLOSE CONTACT INCLUDES SEXUAL CONTACT AND IN SOME OF THESE PATIENTS THAT APPEARS TO BE THE LIKELY MODE OF TRANSMISSION.

BUT IT IS TRUE, NOBODY IS MORE BUY LOGICALLY AT RISK FOR THIS IN THE CURRENT OUTBREAK AS FAR AS WE KNOW.

>> Braude: SO FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ANXIOUS WHICH IS ALMOST EVERYBODY I KNOW RIGHT NOW AND I'M BETTING A LOT OF THE PEOPLE YOU SEE, WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THEM?

WHAT ARE THEY LOOKING FOR?

WHAT DO THEY DO IF THEY SEE SOMETHING THAT CAUSES THEM ANXIETIES?

WHAT IS THE ADVICE?

>> I THINK THE FIRST PIECE OF ADVICE IS TO COMMUNICATE WITH YOUR DOCTOR OR YOUR HEALTH PROVIDER ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE SEEING AND WHETHER IT IS A RASH OR WHETHER YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE A FLU, TALK TO YOUR DOCTOR, THERE IS A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION OUT THERE NOW AND THERE ARE SYSTEMS FOR PHYSICIANS IN THE COMMUNITY TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE MASSACHUSETTS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND WITH EXPERTS IN THIS AREA.

SO I WOULD SAY THAT IS THE FIRST PIECE OF ADVICE.

AND THE SECOND PIECE OF ADVICE IS REALLY TO REMEMBER THERE ARE A LOT OF INFECTIONS THAT CIRCULATE IN THE ENVIRONMENT AND IN AN MAMS, INCLUDING YOUR PET DOG AND YOUR PET IGUANA THAT DON'T GENERALLY MAKE US SICK BUT CAN IF THE CIRCUMSTANCES ARE RIGHT.

SO EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A VERY DRAMATIC EXAMPLE OF AN INFECTION THAT IS TRANSMITTED FROM ANIMALS TO HUMANS, IT IS NOT THE ONLY EXAMPLE AND IN MOST CASES HUMANS.

>> BEFORE YOU G I TOLD YOU, I KNOW A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WHO KNOW YOU WELL, WHO THINK THE WORLD OF YOU.

AND EVERY ONE OF THEM SAID IN ADDITION HOW TALENTED AND GOOD YOU ARE, YOU ARE INCREDIBLY HUMBLE.

THIS MAY BE A WASTED EFFORT ON MY PART.

HOW DOES IT FEEL, WHEN YOU DO SOLVE THE MYSTERY LIKE YOU DID FOR THIS PATIENT FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THIS COUNTRY.

WHAT IS THE LEVEL OF SATISFACTION YOU FEEL?

AND I DON'T MEAN JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE A DOCKS TOR WHO CARES ABOUT YOUR PATIENT, I MEAN WHAT IS THE PERSONAL SATISFACTION LIKE WHEN YOU BREAK THAT CODE?

>> WELL, IT IS ENORMOUSLY GRATIFYING TO SEERKS THE WAY YOU THINK, THE WAY YOU COMMUNICATE WITH PATIENTS.

AND THOSE THOUSANDS OF HOURS OF CONTEXTUAL EXPERIENCE PAY OFF IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS.

AND SO IT IS VERY-- IT'S VERY HAPPY T IS VERY HAPPY, NOT JUST ON BEHALF OF MYSELF BUT ON BEHALF OF THE OTHER FRONT LINE CLINICIANS WHO DON'T ALWAYS GETS CREDIT FOR IT.

YOU KNOW, AS THE STORIES BLOW UP, SOMETIMES WE FORGET ABOUT PEOPLE ON THE FRONT LINES WHETHER THEY ARE PHYSICIANS OR DOCTORS OR MICROBIOLOGISTS SO IT IS A VERY GOOD FEELING TO USE CLINICAL REASONING SCWILS.

>> YOU SAID IT BEAUTIFULLY, A PLEASURE TO MEET YOU, THANKS FOR YOUR WORK, HOPE TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

PLEASURE TO BE HERE.

>> Braude: THAT IS IT FOR TONIGHT.

THAT'S IT FOR TONIGHT, BUT COME BACK TOMORROW FOR "TALKING POLITICS."

ADAM REILLY AND HIS PANEL WILL LOOK AHEAD TO THE MASS DEMOCRATS' CONVENTION THAT KICKS OFF TOMORROW IN WORCESTER AND TALK ABOUT WHAT IT'LL TAKE TO GET BOSTON'S PUBLIC SCHOOLS BACK ON TRACK AS A POSSIBLE STATE TAKEOVER LOOMS.

THAT AND MORE, TOMORROW AT 7:00.

THANKS FOR WATCHING, AND STAY SAFE.

♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ Captioned by Media Access Group at WGBH access.wgbh.org >> WAIT, DID I JUST COMMIT A CRIME?

HEY, FOLKS!

I'M EDGAR B. HERWICK III FROM GBH'S "CURIOSITY DESK," WHERE YOU ASK QUESTIONS AND I FIND ANSWERS.

TODAY'S QUESTION COMES COURTESY OF BETTY DAVIS FROM GLOUCESTER, MASSACHUSETTS, WHO WANTS TO KNOW, IS IT IN FACT A CRIME TO REMOVE THESE LABELS?

NOW YOU FIND THESE GUYS ON PILLOWS, MATTRESSES, EVEN A LOT OF WINTER COATS.

AND THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE YOU CANNOT SEE WHAT IS INSIDE OF THOSE ITEMS.

NOW TODAY, PILLOWS, FOR EXAMPLE, ARE USUALLY STUFFED WITH FEATHERS OR COTTON OR SOME KIND OF SYNTHETIC MATERIAL.

BUT, ACCORDING TO MAGGIE TERRY, BACK IN THE DAY THEY PUT SOME PRETTY GNARLY STUFF IN THE STUFFING.

>> I MEAN, IT USED TO BE YEARS AGO, THEY'D THROW ANYTHING THEY WANTED TO INTO THE BEDDING.

NEWSPAPERS, DIRTY RAGS-- >> HORSE HAIR, USED HOSPITAL OR HOTEL MATTRESSES, CORN HUSKS-- >> SWEEPINGS OFF THE FLOOR, PART OF YOUR LUNCHES, DROPPINGS.

I MEAN, ANYTHING.

>> FOR STARTERS, THAT'S DISGUSTING.

AND FURTHERMORE, IT'S DANGEROUS AND UNHEALTHY.

SO TODAY, A LOT OF STATES REQUIRE THESE LABELS THAT TELL YOU WHAT IS INSIDE OF THE ITEM.

AND IT IS AGAINST THE LAW TO REMOVE THEM.

SORT OF.

RETAILERS AND MANUFACTURERS CAN BE FINED IF THEY REMOVE THE LABELS, BUT ONCE YOU BUY IT, OR I BUY IT, IF YOU READ CLOSELY MOST OF THESE END WITH THE LINE, "EXCEPT BY THE CONSUMER."

SO THERE YOU HAVE IT.

FEEL FREE TO RIP AWAY.

DON'T FORGET TO FOLLOW AND TELL US WHAT YOU ARE CURIOUS ABOUT BECAUSE, HEY, I MIGHT JUST LOOK INTO IT FOR YOU.

I'M EDGAR B. HERWICK III, STAY CURIOUS OUT THERE.