
June 24th, 2022
Season 30 Episode 24 | 27m 31sVideo has Closed Captions
Journalists and other topical experts share insights on the latest in Colorado Politics.
Topics include primary campaign budgets, former CU Boulder professor John Eastman, Jeffco school closures due to low enrollment and Douglas County retaliating against the City of Denver for their concealed carry law.
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WELCOME TO THE JUNE 24TH, 2022, EDITION OF COLORADO INSIDE OUT.
I'M YOUR GUEST HOST, KRISTA KAFER, AS THE SUMMER LONG SEARCH FOR THE NEW HOST CONTINUES.
YOU CAN EXPECT TO MEET OUR PERMANENT HOST BY SEPTEMBER.
WE'LL START WITH TODAY'S BREAKING NEWS: AS THE POLITICO LEAK PREDICTED.
THE SUPREME COURT HAS OVERTURNED -- THE AUTHORITY IS RETURNED TO THE PEOPLE AND THE ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES.
THAT CAN BE SEEN OVERTURNS LET'S START WITH PATTY CALHOUN.
SHE IS THE EDITOR OF WESTWARD.
HOW DOES THIS CHANGE IN COLORADO OR DOES IT?
>> BY NOON THERE WAS A PROTEST.
THAT IS ONE OF THE CHANGES WE WILL SEE.
NOT JUST IN COLORADO BUT ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
IT WILL REV UP PEOPLE ON ALL SIDES OF THE ISSUE AND ON ISSUES ON TWO SIDES.
IT WILL AFFECT THE UPCOMING ELECTION.
HERE IN COLORADO, WE HAVE TO REMEMBER WE WERE THE FIRST STATE TO LEGALIZE ABORTION.
GOVERNOR LAMB -- GOVERNOR LOVE SIGNED IT INTO LAW.
WE RESPECTED A WOMEN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE THAT FREEDOM.
WE HAVE UPHELD IT.
COLORADO IS STILL WHICH LIBERTARIAN, CHOICE, OR CIVIL RIGHTS WE ARE A LEADER THAT WAY.
INCLUDING 13 STATES RIGHT NOW ABORTION IS GOING TO BE ILLEGAL.
I THOUGHT WHEN THEY PUSHED THROUGH THE ACT I THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TOO FAR.
I'M HAPPY THAT COLORADO WANTS TO AFFIRM IT.
ALL OF A SUDDEN JUDGE THOMAS IS TALKING ABOUT.
LOOKING AT SAME SEX MARRIAGE.
ALL THE DIFFERENT ISSUES.
IT IS A CONCERN I WISH HE WOULD GO HOME AND TELL THEM TO QUIT EMAILING AND CALM DOWN.
>> WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON THIS DECISION?
>> EVEN BEFORE THE DECISION CAME OUT THERE WERE STATES JOCKING FOR POSITION.
IT IS A BIG PENGILUM.
I THINK WHAT WE WILL SEE IN THE COMING MONTHS AND YEARS IS THAT SORT OF FIGURING OUT WHERE IT IS GOING TO LAND.
YOU STILL HAVE GALLUP RELEASE AN ANNUAL POLL ON HOW AMERICANS FEEL ABOUT ABORTION, AND STILL 71% OF AMERICANS DON'T LIKE THIRD TRIMESTER ABORTION.
IS THERE IS A PLACE WE CAN ALL AGREE?
I KNOW STATES ARE GOING TO BE DIFFERENT.
IS THERE IS A PLACE WE CAN AGREE?
THE MOMENT BEFORE BIRTH WE THINK IS TOO LATE.
MAYBE NOT FOR SOME PEOPLE.
I'M LOOKING AT FORWARD AS THIS LONGER PROCESS WHERE DO ALL THE STATES.
WHAT IMPACT DOES IT HAVE ON MIDTERMS AND ON THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION?
>> ERIC SONDERMANN, YOU HAVE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME.
YOUR SENSE OF WHAT COMES ON HERE IN COLORADO, DOES THAT CHANGE ANYTHING FOR US IN TERMS OF THE DIALOGUE, IN TERMS OF POLITICS.
THERE IS A LOT IN PLACE.
>> I THINK IT CHANGES A LOT.
I DON'T THINK IT CHANGES ANY UNIQUE TO COLORADO.
WE ARE A PART OF IT.
THIS IS A DAY FOR INTENSE DEALING WHETHER YOU ARE PRO-LIFE SIDE OF THIS OR ON THE PRO-CHOICE SIDE OF THIS.
I THINK YOU NEED TO RESPECT THOSE FEELINGS AND LET THEM BE HEARD AND LET THAT PLAY OUT.
I HAVE WRITTEN A COUPLE OF COLUMNS THERE ARE TWO POSITIONS HERE.
I THINK SHE IS ESSENTIALLY RIGHT.
IT IS POSSIBLE TO BE PRO-CHOICE, WHICH I AM.
I AM PRO-CHOICE AND STILL THINK THAT ROE WAS A FLAWED LAW FOR THE PAST 50 YEARS.
I KNOW THAT POSITION HAS A CONSTITUENCY OF ONE.
AS LAURA POINTED OUT, HOPEFULLY THERE WILL BE CALMER HEADS.
HOPEFULLY THERE WOULD BE COMPASSION ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS DEBATE IN TERMS OF UNDERSTANDING THE VIEWPOINT OUTSIDE OF YOUR CIRCLE.
SEEING HOW OTHER PEOPLE SEE THIS ISSUE.
I WOULD LOVE IT OVER THE LONG HALL PLAYING OFF OF THE -- IT WILL BE A CONTENTIOUS ISSUE.
MAYBE MOST OF THE COUNTRY CAN AGREE THAT MAYBE RUNNING A TEST TUBE.
ON THE FLIP SIDE A FULL TERM 36-38 FETUS DOES HAVE SOME RIGHTS.
IF WE CAN BRING THE GOAL POSTS FROM THOSE EXTREMES JUST A LITTLE BIT THAT WOULD BE PROGRESS.
>> PENFIELD TATE.
DOES THIS CHANGE THE ECONOMIC IN THE UPCOMING ELECTION?
>> I THINK IT DOES.
IT CHANGES THE DYNAMIC NATIONALLY.
THIS OPINION IS REALLY ODD.
JUST TALKS HOW ROE EXSENT WAITED PEOPLE'S OPINION AND AMONG THE STATE.
THIS OPINION TAKES THAT UP AND NOTCH.
WHEN YOU HAVE JUST AS CLARENCE THOMAS WE SHOULD RECONSIDER ALL OF THIS COURT'S SUBSTANCE.
HE IS SAYING I DON'T CARE WHAT THE FACTS OF THE CASE ARE.
I HAVE A BODY OF LAW THAT I WANT TO DO AWAY WITH.
THIS COURT IS ANNOUNCING -- IT HAS BECOME THE POLITICAL ARM.
THIS SESSION HAS ANNOUNCED PRO-GUN DECISIONS.
PROFUNDING RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS, ANTI-CHOICE, ANTICIVIL RIGHTS.
COMING AFTER GAY MARRIAGE, CONTRACEPTIVE RIGHTS AND OTHER RIGHTS.
IT IS GOING TO ACCELERATE.
THE SUPREME COURT, I BELIEVE IS SERVING NOTICE THEY WILL NOT BE A NEUTRAL AR BRA TORE.
>>> THIS WEEK PRIMARY SPENDING FOR STATE HOUSE BY INDEPENDENT EXPENDITURE COMMITTEES HAS REACHED ABOUT $2,000.
A PRICE TAG TYPICALLY ONLY SEEN IN GENERAL ELECTIONS.
HOUSE DISTRICT 6 HAS THE LARGEST AMOUNT OF DARK MONEY SPENDING BETWEEN DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES ELISABETH EPPS AND KATIE MARCH.
LAURA YOU GOT MONEY ON ONE HORSE OR THE OTHER?
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
THIS SHEER AMOUNT OF MONEY PUSHED IN THESE RACES.
>> THIS RACE IS INTERESTING.
A BATTLE OF THE ENDORSERS.
PART OF THE DEMOCRAT PARTY IS ENDORSING WHICH ONE OF THESE CANDIDATES AND THE MONEY THAT IS FOLLOWING.
YOU CAN LOOK AT THE STATEWIDE RACES AND SEE A WHOLE BUNCH OF DARK MONEY OR SOME MONEY THAT IS OUT IN THE BRIGHT LIGHT.
YOU HAVE DEMOCRATS SAYING WE WOULD RATHER RUN AGAINST TOM HANKS.
WE WOULD RUN AGAINST GREG LOPEZ.
THESE ARE UNPRECEDENTED AMOUNTS IN THE LAST FIVE DAYS.
THERE IS ANOTHER $2.5 MILLION.
I THINK THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF STOPS.
BUT THERE ARE SOME UNPRECEDENTED MONEY HERE.
IT WILL BE VERY INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THIS AFFECTS WHO WINS ON TUESDAY.
WE WILL ALL BE TUNED IN.
>> YOU KNOW WITH DARK MONEY THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT MONEY COMES FROM, DOES THAT CHANGE THE DYNAMIC OF THIS RACE?
>> I THINK IT POTENTIALLY CHANGES A NUMBER OF THESE RACES.
WE HAVE TAKEN THE BIG MONEY OUT OF POLITICS.
HASN'T THAT WORKED OUT WELL FOR ALL OF US.
WE HAVE JUST CHASED THAT MONEY AWAY FROM THE CANDIDATES THEMSELVES AND CHASED THEM TO THE BACK DOOR AND NOT DISCLOSED.
THESE REPUBLICANS PRIMARIES.
THERE IS AN ACTION HERE AND THERE ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE LEGISLATIVE RACE.
95% OF THESE ACTIONS IS ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE.
IT FASCINATES ME HOW THIS WILL COME OUT.
THEY HAVE HAD TWO DECADE DECLINE IN COLORADO.
THIS IS OPPORTUNITY TO GET BACK IN THE GAME.
THEY HAVE NATIONAL WIN.
WE WILL SEE HOW STRONG THE NATIONAL WIN IS.
I THINK IT WILL BE A SUB SUBSTANTIAL WIN.
IF THEY NOMINATE A SERIOUS MINDED REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE THEY WILL NOT SWEEP THE TABLE BUT THEY WILL WIN SOME RACES THIS YEAR.
IF THEY NOMINATE WACK KA DOODLE.
WHEN WILL IT HAPPEN?
THIS IS A TEST OF SERIOUSNESS FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.
>> THE REPUBLICAN RACES TAKING A LOT OF THE HEADLINES.
IT IS BETWEEN TWO DEMOCRATS, ONE MAIN STREET AND FAR TO THE LEFT DO YOU KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN?
>> NO I DON'T.
WHEN YOU HAVE A SUPREME COURT THAT IS NOW SAYING WE WILL LET STATES DECIDE A BUNCH OF STUFF.
THE ANTE GETS RAISED.
THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THESE ISSUES ARE GOING DO BE RESOLVED.
YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH ERIC.
YOU HAVE THE FORMER STATE PARTY CHAIR SAYING WE CAN MAKE SOME GAIN IF WE DON'T SHOOT OURSELVES IN THE FOOT BY NOMINATING PEOPLE LIKE TINA PETERS AND WE GOT HER ON THE BALLOTS TO BE SECRETARY OF STATE.
AND SO, I THINK WHAT HAS HAPPENED BECAUSE OF THE PRESSURE TO CONTROL STATE LEGISLATIVE BODIES ALL OF THIS DARK MONEY IS COMING IN.
PEOPLE WANT CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM WHICH SOUNDS GOOD.
ALL WE HAVE DONE WITH OUR REFORM EFFORTS IN THIS STATE IS FORCE MONEY AWAY FROM CANDIDATES WHO SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MESSAGES THEY PUT OUT AND FUNDS THEM TO THESE MONEY CAMPAIGN VEHICLES.
NO ONE KNOWS WHO IS SPENDING MONEY, NOT EVEN THE CANDIDATES.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IN EPPS AND MARCH.
IT IS ONE OF THE MORE BIZARRE RACES GOING ON THIS CAMPAIGN CYCLE.
YOU NORMALLY DON'T SEE THIS SKIZISM.
WHAT PEOPLE WOULD CALL MAIN STREET DEMOCRAT.
IT IS PLAYING OUT HERE AS WELL.
>> DO YOU KNOW HOW THESE WILL PLAY OUT?
>> IT WILL DEPEND WHO WILL GOES OUT AND VOTE.
WILL PEOPLE BE ENERGIZED BY THE GUN DECISION BY THE SUPREME COURT, BY THE ROE V. WADE DECISION.
I THINK PEOPLE WILL BE VOTING MORE THAN THEY MIGHT.
DON'T MAIL IT, DELIVER IT.
DELIVER YOUR BALLOT.
I THINK WE MIGHT GET A BIGGER TURNOUT.
THAT WILL CHANGE THINGS.
WILL IT CHANGE TWO WOMEN RUNNING AGAINST EACH OTHER?
IT USED TO BE IN THESE SMALLER STATE HOUSE RACES YOU WOULD BE TALKING TO YOUR NEIGHBOR ABOUT THEM.
NOW YOU HAVE DARK MONEY COMING IN.
IT HAS BEEN AN UGLY RACE WITH SUGGESTED THINGS AND BAD TRICKS AND PEOPLE ARE NOT ACCOUNTABLE FOR IT.
THAT RACE COULD BE A FORERUNNER FOR THE MAYORS RACE.
YOU TAKE IT LOWER LEVEL.
LESLIE ENDORSE EPPS.
YOU HAVE TWO BRANCHS OF THE DEMOCRATS BOTH IN THE STATE HOUSE AND HERE IN DENVER.
>> WE WILL TAKE AT HANKS O'DEA, ANDERSON AS WELL AS PETERS AND LOPEZ.
>> I WAS STANDING AT THE REPUBLICAN STATE NOMINATING DEBORAH FOR U.S. SENATE.
I'M HOPEFUL THAT THE REPUBLICANS WHO TURN OUT IN THE PRIMARY AS OPPOSED TO THE STATE ASSEMBLY, AS YOU KNOW THIS ASSEMBLY PROCESS PULLS PEOPLE FROM THE FAR LEFT, FAR RIGHT.
WE DON'T GET THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THE MOST PALLETABLE.
BUT TO THESE UNAFFILIATED WHO WILL END UP VOTING IN THE GENERAL ELECTION.
I'M FOR O'DEA AND ANDERSON.
THAT'S MY PREDICTION.
>> ERIK SONDERMANN YOUR PREDICTION.
>> ANY STATE AND ANY MUNICIPALITY IS VIABLE.
AS A GENERAL RULE.
THOSE BIGGER ARE DIFFERENT.
PARTICULAR FROM THE 5,000-6,000 PEOPLE WHO TURN OUT TO AN ASSEMBLY.
PAM ANDERSON IS EVERYTHING THAT GRISWOLD IS NOT.
A MANAGER, LOW ON POLITICS, HIGH ON ADMINISTRATION OF THE OFFICE.
CAN SHE GET TO THAT PRIMARY?
WE WILL SEE.
I WILL NOT PUT MONEY ON IT.
WISHFUL THINKING.
>> PENFIELD TATE TELL ME YOU ARE NOT ROUTING FOR TINA PETERS?
>> NO.
I THINK SHE IS GOING TO WIN THE PRIMARY.
I THINK SHE WILL BE THE NOMINEE OF THE PARTY.
SHE WILL LOSE TO JENNA GRISWOLD.
I THINK HANKS WILL WIN THAT PRIMARY.
I HAVE A STRANGE FEELING JUST TALKING WITH PEOPLE AND MOVING AROUND THE STATE, I THINK O'DAE IS GETTING HURT BY SOME OF THE ATTACKS ON HANKS COMING FROM DEMOCRATICALLY ALIGNED ORGANIZATIONS.
AND I THINK -- I LIKE HIM PERSONALLY.
I THINK THE MORE LOPEZ TALKS THE MORE HE HURTS HIMSELF.
>> DO YOU HAVE ANY PREDICTIONS TO THE TOP TICKET ITEMS?
>> I CAN ONLY HOPE THAT TINA PETERS WILL SUCCEED IN THIS.
WHO WOULD YOU WANT TO WRITE ABOUT?
PAM DOES A GOOD JOB.
SHE WOULD BE LIKE MANY, MANY -- I MEAN THE GREAT SECRETARIES OF STATE WE HAVE HAD BEFORE, SHE WOULD BE IN THEIR MODEL.
TINA PETERS MIGHT BRING IN MIKE LINDALE.
THINGS TO WRITE ABOUT.
I THINK RON HANKS -- TO SAY HE IS TOO CONSERVATIVE AND MIGHT WOO COLORADOANS TO VOTE FOR HIM.
>>> OVER A DOZEN SHERIFF CANDIDATES ARE CAMPAIGNING WITH THE PROMISE TO STOP GOVERNMENT OVERREACH.
THE CANDIDATES ARE PARTICULARLY FOCUSED ON THE RED FLAG LAW, A LAW THAT GRANTS JUDGES PERMISSION TO TEMPORARILY SEIZE GUNS FROM THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE CONSIDERED A ATHLETE TO THEMSELVES OR TO OTHERS.
ERIC SONDERMANN NOT IMPLEMENTING A LAW IS AN ATTACK OF RULE OF LAW.
I HAVE CONCERNS OF THAT, DO YOU?
>> AGREED ENTIRELY.
THIS GOES BACK TO NULLIFICATION.
WE FOUGHT A CIVIL WAR ON THE ISSUE OF NULLIFICATION.
YOU CAN THINK WHAT YOU WANT ABOUT RED FLAG LAWS AND ALL THE REST.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IF THAT IS YOUR CONCERN RUN FOR LEGISLATIVE SEAT OR RUN FOR THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE.
IF YOU ARE RUNNING FOR SHERIFF YOUR JOB IS TO ENFORCE THE LAWS OF THE STATE.
DO YOUR JOB.
I THINK THIS IS CONTINGENT REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES HANGING THEIR HATS ON THIS ISSUE OF, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY CALL, CONSTITUTIONAL SHERIFFS.
IT DOES NOT SPEAK WELL FOR THE HEARTBEAT OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY THESE DAYS AND HOW FAR THEY DRIFTED INTO THAT CRAZY ZONE.
>> PENFIELD TATE ALSO A LAWYER.
AS A LAWYER AND LEGISLATURE.
>> THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE LAW ENFORCEMENT.
THERE IS A REASON THAT TERM IS USED.
THE RED FLAG LAWS ARE THE LAWS OF THIS STATE THEY OUGHT TO ENFORCE THEM.
AS A LAWYER I HANDLED MATTERS I DIDN'T AGREE WHAT WAS GOING ON.
THAT IS MY JOB.
IF THEY DON'T LIKE IT RUN ON A LEGISLATURE THAT WE WANT TO REPEAL THESE LAWS.
PEOPLE TO EXPECT THEM TO ENFORCE THE LAWS ON THE BOOKS.
IF THEY DON'T, THEY LOSE THE PREROGATIVE OF TRYING TO ENFORCE THE LAWS THEY DO SUPPORT.
PEOPLE WILL SAY, YOU DIDN'T FORCE THE ONE YOU DIDN'T AGREE WITH.
THEY DON'T WANT TO BE IN THAT SITUATION.
>> PATTY CALHOUN THIS KIND OF RHETORIC I'M NOT GOING TO ENFORCE THE LAW.
HOW DOES THAT PLAY OUT IN ELECTIONS?
>> YOU WOULD HOPE THE VOTERS ARE NOT PAYING ATTENTION.
YOU GOT CONGRESS ACTUALLY A GUN BILL GOING THROUGH.
TAKING AWAY SOME OF THE CONCEALED CARRY.
THEN YOU HAVE THESE SHERIFFS CAN'T THEY GO BEYOND THE SUPREME COURT.
THEY CAN DO ANYTHING THEY WANT.
THEY CAN MAKE THE LAW THERE.
IT IS TRUE WHAT IF THEY ARE RUNNING FOR THE OFFICE THEY SHOULD ENFORCE THE RULES OF THE OFFICE.
WE HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE.
WE SAW EARLY DAYS OF PANDEMIC.
THERE IS NO PLACE FOR IT IN COLORADO.
>> IS THERE A PLACE TO NOT ENFORCE THE LAW THAT YOU BELIEVE IS NOT CONSTITUTIONAL.
>> I KNOW A LOT OF THESE SHERIFF'S PERSONALLY.
THEY WANT THEIR COMMUNITY TO BE AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE.
THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT SOME OF THE RED FLAG LAWS THAT HAS BEEN ENACTED.
IT ALL COMES OUT TO DUE PROCESS.
IF THERE IS DUE PROCESS, MOST PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT IS THE ROLE OF THE SHERIFF.
THE ISSUE I HAVE WITH THE RED FLAG LAWS AS THEY ARE WRITTEN IN COLORADO AND OTHER STATES.
IF THERE IS A VIOLATE SITUATION THAT IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN AND YOU TAKE THE FIREARM OUT OF THE SITUATION.
YOU ARE NOT MAKING THAT WOMAN SAFER BY TAKING A FIREARM OUT OF IT.
IT ALMOST GIVES SOME LAW ENFORCEMENT THE ABILITY TO SAY WE DID OUR JOB, WE TOOK THE FIREARM OUT OF THE SITUATION.
WE LEFT THE CAR, WE LEFT THE KNIFE, WE LEFT THE ROPE TO STRANGLE HER WITH.
WHEN I HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITH SHERIFF'S CANDIDATES.
THEY ARE LOOKING FOR ALL OF THE TOOLS TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE.
DOES RED FLAG PLAY INTO THAT?
ARE THERE CONCERNS WITH IT?
HOW DO THEY WORK WITHIN THAT?
I DON'T THINK ANYONE DOESN'T WANT TO KEEP THEIR COMMUNITY SAFE.
THEY ALL AGREE.
>> FOR OUR FAVORITE PART WHICH IS DISGRACE OF THE WEEK.
WE WILL FOLLOW IT UP WITH SOMETHING NICE.
DISGRACE OF THE WEEK.
PATTY CALHOUN.
>> THERE IS A LOT OF ACTION IN WASHINGTON, D.C.
RIGHT NOW WITH THE CIRCUS OF THE SUPREME COURT.
WHAT HAPPENED TODAY.
LET'S NOT FORGET THE HEARINGS GOING ON WHICH HAVE BEEN AMAZING ABOUT JANUARY 6TH.
JOHN EASTMAN WHO WAS ON THE PAYROLL TO BE A GREAT CONSERVATIVE SCHOLAR.
I'D LIKE TO SEE HOW RON HANKS IF ELECTED AND DOESN'T WIN AND RESPOND.
HE IS THINKING THERE IS A BIG LIE.
>> I RUN AN ORGANIZATION CALLED FASTER COLORADO.
THE BEHAVIOR OF THE SCHOOL'S CHIEF OF POLICE IN UVALDE, TEXAS IS HORRIFYING.
NEWS COMING OUT OF THERE OF HOW IT WAS HANDLED.
IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE A DISGRACE.
>> ERIC SONDERMANN.
I AGREE WITH LAURA.
LET ME KEEP IT LOCALLY.
THE DOUGLAS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND HANDED AMATEUR HOUR TO USE EMINENT DOMAIN TO TAKE BACK A PARK.
DANIEL'S PARK WHICH IS BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF LAND OVER CONCEALED CARRY LAW.
THERE IS WAYS TO EXPRESS YOUR DISAGREEMENT.
THE MAYOR HAS MADE THAT CLEAR.
WE COULD COOPERATE A LITTLE MORE INSTEAD OF THROWING THREATS AROUND.
>> PENFIELD TATE?
>> THE THOMASES.
HER HUSBAND THE SUPREME COURT JUSTICE PRONOUNCED NOW LOOKING TO OVERTURN A BUNCH OF PRECEDENT.
HE JUST PUTTING US ON NOTICE.
HE WANTS TO OVERTURN A BUNCH OF STUFF.
>> LET'S GO WITH SOMETHING SWEET.
>> I'LL SKIP THE AVS.
I WANT TO CONGRATULATE HEALTH.
A GREAT WOMAN COMING BACK FROM COLUMBIA.
I THINK SHE WILL DO A GREAT JOB.
>> LAURA?
>> I WILL SAY SOMETHING ABOUT DAVID KOPEL.
HE WORKS -- THE WORK HE DID WITH INDEPENDENCE INSTITUTE WAS SITED IN THE SUPREME COURT CASE GIVING THEM BACK THE ABILITY TO DEFEND THEMSELVES.
>> WAY TO GO.
ERIC?
>> THAT IS WHAT COURAGE LOOKS LIKE.
THE HISTORY BOOKS WILL BE KINDER TO HER.
THEY ARE GOING TO BE INTO A LOT OF COHORTS AND REPUBLICAN CAUCUS.
LET'S GO AVS.
LET'S FINISH IT OFF TODAY.
FOR THE RECORD ON THE NEW YEAR'S SHOW WHEN WE WERE ASKED TO GIVE PREDICTIONS I PREDICTED THE AVS WILL BRING HOME THE CUP.
>> GO AVS.
I GOT TO GO ALONG WITH ERIC.
CHANEY IDENTIFIES WHAT WE WANT IN OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS.
I RARELY AGREE WITH ANY ISSUE.
PUTTING HERSELF AT POLITICAL RISK OF LOSING HER REELECTION BECAUSE SHE WANTS TO UPHOLD THE INSTITUTIONS OF DEMOCRACY SAYS A LOT ABOUT THIS WOMAN.
>> THAT'S ALL THE TIME WE HAVE.
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