>> ERIC: LAST MONTH, SUPREME COURT CHIEF JUSTICE LORIE GILDEA ANNOUNCED SHE WILL LEAVE MINNESOTA'S HIGH COURT THIS COMING FALL.

GILDEA IS JUST THE SECOND WOMAN TO LEAD THE COURT AND WHEN SHE DEPARTS ON OCTOBER 1S, SHE WILL BE THE THIRD LONGEST SERVING JUSTICE IN THE STATE'S HISTORY.

CHIEF JUSTICE GILDEA JOINS US.

WELCOME.

WHY NOW?

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

>> >> YOU BETTER.

WHY NOW.

>> SO I'VE BEEN ON THE COURT, SERVING AS CHIEF JUSTICE NOR 13 JEERS AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR EVERY DAY BUT YOU DO HAVE TO BE BAG IN OUR MINNESOTA HISTORY MORE THAN 100 YEARS TO FIND SOMEBODY WHO HAS SERVED IN THAT HOLE AND I THINK IT'S PRETTY GOOD EVIDENCE IT'S TIME FOR SOMEBODY ELSE TO HAVE A TURN.

>> Cathy: YOU DID A LOT.

YOU GOT THE COURTS TO GO PAPER-LESS, YOU GO WORKED ON TRANSPARENCY, CAMERAS NOTICE COURTROOM, WHAT ARE YOU REALLY PROUD OF?

>> I THINK ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

ACCESS TO JUSTICE OF COURSE IS ALWAYS TOP OF MIND.

ONE OF THE FIRST PROMISES IN THE MINNESOTA CONSTITUTION IS THAT ALL MINNESOTANS HAVE THE RIGHT TO ACCESS TO JUSTICE, SO THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN ON MY MIND AS WE'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT HOW TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR THE PEOPLE OF MINNESOTA TO INTERACT WITH THEIR COURT SYSTEM.

AND ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT, ELECTRONIC FILING, GREATER CAMERA ACCESS, THOSE THINGS ALL GO TOWARD THE DELIVERY OF THAT CONSTITUTIONAL MISSION.

>> Eric: AS YOU HAVE SERVED YOUR TIME -- >> DON'T TALK ABOUT IT THAT WAY.

>> Eric: YEAH, DOING A STRETCH ON THE COURT, THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S TERRIBLE.

ATTENTION OU'VE DONE YOUR SERVICE, BUDGET AFTER BUDGET, YOU'VE SAID, IT AIN'T ENOUGH AND I WONDER IF YOU GOT A PIECE OF THE SURPLUS THIS YEAR TO UPGRADE STUFF THAT NEEDED UPGRADING.

>> YES, THIS WAS A HISTORIC LEGISLATIVE SYSTEM FOR THE JUSTICE SYSTEM, FOR THE COURTS, FOR CIVIL LEGAL AID.

I THINK THAT REALLY DOES HELP MAKE THIS A GOOD TIME FOR A TRANSITION IN THE JUDICIARY, THE COURT, BRANCH IS CERTAINLY ON A FIRM FISCAL FOUNDATION.

>> Cathy: LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE STATE OF OUR JUDICIARY.

YOU SEEM LIKE YOU'RE PRETTY OPTIMISTIC ABOUT MINNESOTA.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT A WISCONSIN-STYLE SYSTEM, DO YOU EVER SEE US GOING IN THAT DIRECTION AND -- >> BOY, I HOPE NOT.

MY VIEW IS WE SHOULD KEEP PARTISAN POLITICS AS FAR AWAY FROM JUDICIAL SELECTION, JUDICIAL ELECTION AS POSSIBLE.

WHEN YOU'RE A JUDGE IN MINNESOTA, YOU NEED TO BE A JUDGE FOR ALL MINNESOTANS, PEEL OF EVERY POLITICAL PARTY AND PEOPLE OF NO POLITICAL PARTIES.

>> Eric: ARE BEAM IN THE PROFESSION TALKING ABOUT THE IMPACTS OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE?

>> YES.

>> Eric: WHAT ARE SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THERE OR QUESTIONS -- >> WE'RE STARTING TO SEE CASES WHERE LAWYERS ARE BEING SANCTIONED BECAUSE THEY USE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND THE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE TOOL THEY USE IS MAKING UP CASE LAW AND THEY'RE JUST PUTTING IT IN BRIEFS AND SUBMITTING IT TO COURTS SO WE HAVE TO BE VERY MINDFUL.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT A.I.

DOESN'T HAVE A ROLE, IT CLEARLY DOES.

I WAS TALKING TO A FAMILY MEMBER ABOUT HOW IT'S BEING USED TO HELP DIAGNOSE CANCER BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR EYES WIDE OPEN AND BE VERY CAREFUL IN USING IT IN LEGAL FILINGS.

>> Eric: SO YOU'RE LEAVING, STEPPING DOWN AFTER A CAREER ON THE BENCH AND I'M WONDERING WHAT IGNITES YOU NOW?

WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU WANT TO DO?

>> I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THINKING ABOUT THAT AND I'M -- WITH THE DECISION, YOU KNOW, AND THE ANNOUNCEMENTS IN JUNE, NOW I'M REALLY JUST BEGINNING TO THINK ABOUT THE NEXT PHASE, AND I MEAN, I'M GOING TO BE HONEST, IT'S A LITTLE TERRIFYING, THE FIRST TIME IN MY ADULT LIFE WHERE I AREN'T KNOWN EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN BUT ALSO VERY FREEING AND SATISFYING AND SO I'M STARTING TO THINK ABOUT THAT.

I'M OPEN.

MAYBE I CAN COME OUT AND HANG OUT WITH YOU GUYS AND BE A FELLOW HOST OR SOMETHING.

>> IF THE PHONE RINGS, YOU'LL PICK IT UP?

>> I'LL PICK IT UP.

>> Eric: THERE A LOGICAL NEXT STEP?

I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THIS, WHAT DO SOME OF THE JUSTICES HAVE LEFT AND GO BACK INTO PRIVATE PRACTICE?

>> YES, THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING I'M THINKING ABOUT, SOME OF HAVE GONE ON TO TEACH, I'M THINKING ABOUT THAT, AS WELL.

>> Cathy: YOU COULD BE A U OF M PRESIDENT.

>> I COULD SPEND MORE TIME WITH MY HORSE... [Laughter] THAT WON'T MAKE HIM HAPPY BUT THAT'S CERTAINLY AN OPTION, S WELL.

>> Cathy: YOU'RE AN EQUESTRIAN SO I KNOW YOU'LL BE OUT THERE.

>> Eric: YOU HAVE COME A LONG WAY FROM PLUMBER UP IN REDS LAKE COUNTIES.

>> PLUMBER IS EVERYTHING I AM.

IT WAS A WONDERFUL, SAFE PLACE TO GROW UP AND UP IT'S NEVER FAR FROM MY HEART.