And now the 490 with Gretchen de Bakker.

Matt.

Kill em and Kevin Mullen up.

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It is Matt Coleman, Gretchen de Bakker single handedly driving the ship.

This morning without Kevin, we are going to be rudderless.

We're going to hit an iceberg.

We're going to hit a nice year.

We've got some great guests.

Which carries the show anyway.

But, Gretchen, on a scale of 1 to 10, how anxious are you about the fact that we are here alone without Kevin?

I'd say 11.

That's a yes.

Yeah, I get it.

For those of you that have, not familiar with the production of a show, Gretchen and I are, I would just say the, the sidekicks.

I'd say more like pet monkeys.

Yes.

That's right.

If Robin, from Batman.

Robin had a massive head injury.

Yeah, that would then be the role that we played.

That's right.

Kevin is professional.

I've already hearing my voice compared to his, And I can hear people tuning out.

Yeah.

I am, I'm doing that.

But we've got a great guest.

We have a dear friend, Justin Moore, the president and CEO from the Office on Aging.

Yes.

We got Cathy.

Come into, from WGU plays a vital role in getting programing out and also getting out in the community.

And, of course, our beloved Meg Reznor.

A recent milestone, winner last week just won the huge award.

So we're gonna be able to recap a little bit about what happened at the at the milestone.

So yeah.

Very fun.

And again, it's a culmination of getting to have, all the recipients on in a celebration of the YWCA and Lisa MC Duffy's leadership.

She is, just a tremendous asset to the community.

Again, no one is still listening.

No, but if they were, let's just pretend like it's just me.

Just to chop it up.

Yes.

We just need a glass of wine.

Oh, wait.

Probably that we have had, just a couple.

I wouldn't say complaints, but notes online.

And most of them were directed at Kevin.

Yeah.

So this is our time about.

Stop trying to be so cool.

Oh.

That's right.

Yeah.

And we stopped that a long time ago.

I don't I think those fake accounts you're setting up to make those comments really work.

It's time to move.

We actually are coming up.

The fact that Kevin has entered rehab.

Yeah.

He would like some privacy this time for us.

That's right.

Yeah.

Do you just like you respect that he's working through something.

It's after that day.

You called him grumpy.

He's just never.

He's not been able to get you.

Yeah.

That's right.

It's.

Sometimes you just have to get the help you need, and he deserves.

And by he, I mean us, right?

This show has been, We are at about the halfway point.

Yeah.

And it's certainly feels like it, to a large degree.

Are you most pleased with the fact that we're halfway finished, or are you shocked that we still have the same that we've already done to go?

I know it's, I, I've enjoyed the shows very much.

We love the staff and crew here.

Right.

And selfishly, while we got into this was to be able to get a little bit more ingrained with what's going on around town.

Yeah, that has happened.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And the show is a good example of that.

And it is rewarding when people stop in the street and say, hey, I didn't hear this or I didn't know this or this is a positive thing.

And I also didn't realize how many people were driving around or listening to the radio at 3:00 in the afternoon.

I agree.

That's that's the time when people are running errands and picking up kids from school.

Listening to National Public Radio.

So it's awesome.

We are winding down our first segment with that.

Kevin, are you ready to do the outro?

It's a quick I'm nervous.

Now, what's an intro and outro?

I don't know.

It's a quick I think it's just going fine.

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This is one of my favorite episodes of the week.

Candidly, our great and dear friends at the Toledo Community Foundation have allowed us to bring in community leaders and people doing important work, all really throughout our region.

And I find example of that is, admittedly a friend of Justin Moore.

Welcome, you guys.

Thanks for being here.

And you made me spell this out based on your ego.

You are the president and CEO of Erie Office on Aging.

That's right.

Yeah.

How long have you been in that role?

I was an interim for a year, and then two years as permanent.

Two years?

Yeah.

So tell.

Tell our audience what?

The area office on Aging is and what you do.

Yeah, they're all off aging.

We're all about helping people 60 plus with living better and longer.

We also support their family caregivers.

We know a lot of times sons and daughters are caring for an aging loved one in the life.

We want to help set them up for success and caring better and longer for their aging loved one.

We know that that work is tremendously important, not only for the individuals, our age 60 plus now, but eventually, God willing, for us, right, that we all aspire five years.

Live long and better.

Yeah, I'll be 60 in 5 years anyway.

What kind of services?

I know that there are a variety of senior centers in the community, where seniors themselves can go and engage in all kinds of activities, but what what are the other ways that, for example, caregivers can get involved with the area office on aging?

Yeah.

So for caregivers, a lot of times people are very selfless, right?

They're caring for their aging loved one.

They think it's all got to be on their shoulders.

And that gets real stressful real quick, because the average family caregivers actually spend 22 hours a week providing unpaid care to their aging loved one, oftentimes in addition to a full time job.

So just imagine taking on a part time job that's unpaid.

The stress that goes along with that.

That's how I view my friendship with Gretchen.

Yes.

Yeah.

You are a great caregiver.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you for sharing that.

Yeah.

So, you know, Justin, we've talked a little bit about the specific role.

And before we get back to the office on aging as a whole and why this is important.

You are you look like you're 15 years old.

You're a you're ageless, timeless.

But how did, where are you from?

How did you get in this line of work?

And why does it matter so much to you on a molecular level, which I know that it does?

Yeah.

So when I grew up in, little town in Wood County called Haskins.

And, you know, my parents were obviously a big factor and role models in my life.

But next to that, my great grandpa was the next biggest role model.

And great grandpa.

Yeah.

Great grandpa.

How about that?

Yeah.

So he lived to be 104 and out of town?

Yeah.

So up until the last year of his life, he living in his own home, on his own grass, cutting, you know, cooking his own food in the lake and even starring in some local TV commercials for a local doctor.

So, you know, I just remember really admiring his longevity, admiring his independence.

So the work we do out there, also meeting and helping people live better and longer and long independent lives like him is super meaningful to me personally.

Gretchen, do you hear that?

Is boys on grass?

No, I haven't done that for a team.

Gretchen lives across the street from my mother.

In the house.

It looks like it's condemned.

It does?

What is it?

Just on the outside.

Inside looks great.

It's even worse.

That's right.

What was this gentleman's name?

Yeah, we call them Poppy.

Lovingly, but every good sight was his name.

So the eye doctor has cataract surgery at age 99.

Love his last name.

Good sight.

And, yeah, he starred in local doctors commercials.

I just remember sitting at a TV, you know, sitting at the kitchen table as a kid in elementary school.

You got TV on the table.

And occasionally that commercial had come on with him.

And I just remember walking up to the school bus, you know, with my chest puffed out, super proud of the he was on the commercial.

That's so commercial aside, talk to me a little bit about the mentorship, the time that you spent with them, and then how it transitioned into, education to joining the off to major.

Yeah.

So I remember just being in a culture in our family where we celebrated aging.

Yeah.

I didn't realize that time that that was really countercultural to sometimes our, our national, culture that tends to be kind of ageless.

So I remember, for example, being out by the road with our great grandpa when he turned 100 and my front yard and my dad did things big.

So he ran one of those big spotlights so you can see from miles around and head out by the road and have big parents had a happy 100th birthday.

Yeah.

That's so that's so just stand out there with Poppy.

And as cars run by, they honk and he just wave at them and like.

And that was the culture I grew up in is where we just celebrated aging.

And it didn't just rub off on me.

I remember my great grandma when she was in art, my grandma when she was in her 80s, just, you know, looking forward to our next birthday, looking for her next birthday, because she was one year closer to living to be 100 like Poppy, right?

Sure.

And I see that with my now seven year old son when he was six, he like talk once.

My next birthday it had when's my next birthday?

And now he's starving.

He's like next birthday dad.

So I think at some point that's very natural in life.

But oftentimes we lose at some stage in our life and I think we need to ask ourselves, why is that?

Because that that's an important point.

Again, we're talking to the president CEO of the Area Office on Aging, Justin Moore, who refuses to put an E at the end of his name.

Basically just laziness.

Justin, it's risky putting you on the spot.

Ageism is certainly, a real thing.

And I don't know if it's something that we put on the top of the pyramid of things that we're trying to solve for.

But what is the culture of ageism?

And what are the negative effects of this on what is now a, I think, a largest portion of our population, if I'm not wrong.

Yeah.

So I think it's arguably one of the last socially acceptable, isms.

Right.

So if somebody says a racist comment to me in conversation, I'm likely going to push back on that.

But how often do we in conversations here in this comment, just kind of let it lie?

I think we need to challenge ourselves to step up and push back when we hear those kind of comments, because not only is it not good for our culture, it's not good for us as individuals.

Yeah, right.

There's a recent study that was done that said that people that have a negative perception of aging actually live seven and a half years less than those that have a positive image of aging or perception of aging.

So, you know, this is really important for us to live a long life ourselves, to really embrace this positive view of aging, because the reality is it becomes kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy, right?

If we believe that aging is just a terrible thing, we get really depressed real quick and it ends up, you know, shortening our lifespan.

But if we believe it's positive and full of opportunities, that's the way that we're going to live out and we're gonna live longer that way.

What do you think about the, or what is the area for us on aging, believe is as a concern for our seniors and our community?

What is the if a state of the Union type status of seniors living and in, in and around our region now?

So I think it's eye opening and it's a kind of tale of two cities within one city.

Right.

So we've that's a book.

Okay.

Yeah.

Go ahead.

It's, intro to a book.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay.

Don't worry.

I, I can shut the show.

Well, no, no, it's a book.

You're right.

But no, it's as if that's the times when we're sitting right.

Yeah.

This is the epic of despair right now.

Go ahead.

Justin I'm sorry.

So we serve ten counties in northwest Ohio, 250 miles across.

And we looked as an organization helps people live better and longer.

Where is a neighborhood in that ten county area where people are living the longest?

And I would guess like maybe Ottawa Hills or Sylvania or Mount Clover.

But the reality is it was a West Toledo neighborhood called Devo, where people live in an age or average age of 84.

Wow.

And we wanted to learn what, you know, the best practices are to try to replicate that in other neighborhoods.

And then we also want to see where people are living the least long in that ten county area, because wherever the need is a great it's that's where we want to be, right?

To help out and serve.

And it was actually less than four miles away from Devo and, north Toledo neighborhood called Vistula, where people are only living an average age of 62.

Wow.

First neighborhood.

Yeah, yeah.

So, I mean, it's the oldest neighborhood in Toledo, and it's ironically, the neighborhood where you're at least likely to live long.

Right?

I live to be an old age kind of deal.

And, you know, so we took a deep dive in the census data comparing those two.

And certainly there's an income factor.

So I just want to put a point on that, though.

You know, I went to Devo and I lived just adjacent to that neighborhood most of my life now.

And Devo, by no means, is this wildly affluent place.

It's certainly a good neighborhood.

But you're not comparing Beverly Hills to, you know, Gary, Indiana, which is where my people are from.

So I can say that in a relatively disparaging way.

I just cannot believe that.

To your point, that's four miles away, and life is so different.

What Justin and I think of before I rudely interrupted.

You're about to get into this, but what are the factors that play into that?

And I know there's a clinical portion of it, but I do want to talk about some of the softer portions of it because, you know, you're one of your most important muscles is between your ears.

And that is not age specific by any means.

So, I mean, what's the disparity there?

Or what is the area of Asians science facts that also your thoughts and talk to me about the soft spaces here.

Yeah.

So I there's several factors.

I'll touch on five of them.

One is income.

And when we compare three neighborhoods let's say for example, Davao where people are living the longest, Fasulo where they're living the least long, and then a neighborhood that most people would guess where people are.

Then the Longest Mind Club, for example.

The story is more income is leads to more life, only up to a point.

So average household income in the school of about ten grand a year devote about 60 grand a year.

And then my club, like 115 grand a year.

Right.

So you get more life.

But people are living more or longer in Davao than mine.

Clover.

So I think if if I were to kind of read into that, I would say that you need enough income to be able to handle the basics right and live fairly comfortably where you're not worried about the next, you know, I'm going to be all or thawed food.

The rat, you know.

Right?

Right.

But then I think sometimes when you get to higher income neighborhoods, maybe those jobs and individuals are working, they're spending like, you know, working 12 hour days and just like, you know, super high stress and not exercise as much as they could or should or eating as healthy as they could or should, getting enough rest, going to their doctor's appointments as often as they should, all that kind of stuff.

Right.

So income is a factor.

The other thing is, you know, this is a correlation, not necessarily causation, but one thing that stuck out to me is housing the amount of having a healthy balance of ownership, owner occupied housing as well as rental.

So in Davao it's 85% ownership, 15%, rental of the stool is exact opposite.

Yeah.

So we just look at the quality of housing sometimes, you know, unfortunately, owner Non-Owner occupied homes aren't always kept up as well as they could or should be.

So 0% of the households in, Davao have incomplete plumbing.

So meaning, you know, they all have working toilets and working showers and, like.

But it was still a 3% of the households have incomplete plumbing.

So no toilet, no shower.

And I've been in one of those homes, you know, where a grandma is raising her grandchild.

And they're going to the bathroom in a bowl and taking out a five gallon buck in the garage kind of deal.

So it's real, and you think of the health and safety kind of thing, concern associated with that.

Transportation is a third.

So 50% of households in Davao have no form of transportation.

So think about not being I'll go to your dad's appointment, doctor's appointment, so on and so forth.

Another one is lack of access to dental care.

Yeah, yeah, half of the individuals.

Other.

Yeah, yeah.

So what, yeah, we've we've got Gretchen's wacky quiz to get to.

Of course.

But I don't want to miss out on the opportunity.

We could have you on as most of our guests forever, but.

Yes, talk to us about the services and where people can connect the easiest.

Before we get into the silly portion of, your interview.

But give us the outro here from your perspective.

And how can people connect?

Yeah.

So if people are either aged 60 plus or caring for an aging loved one or others, can reach out to their office on aging, certainly via our website, Erie Office on Aging, or our phone number (419)382-0624.

And we just provide lots of different services, everything from, helping individuals are turned 65 and not sure which Medicare plan is going to save the most money on their health insurance.

Oh that's good.

Volunteer programs for those that want to be active and engaged as they retire.

We also have homecare programs.

We have, caregiver support programs.

We have medical transportation that's available to get people to their doctor's appointments, minor home repair for those needing ramps to get another house.

Yeah.

Are your programs income eligible programs, or can anybody partake in the senior centers or any other programs that you have?

The majority of our programs are for individuals aged 60 plus and their family caregivers, regardless of income.

There are some Medicaid funded programs that we have to do have income criteria, but the majority of those are for individuals age 60 plus three.

And do you have volunteer opportunities for non seniors so that they're okay so people can come in.

What kinds of things can can people in the community do to support their efforts and aging.

Yeah, a big thing that we do is meet people where they're at in the community.

And a lot of times we give them opportunities and things to look forward to.

So we have an event with Toledo Public Schools called Senior Prom, where.

Yes.

Not dine dancing.

Yeah.

And, you know, that's an opportunity for people to volunteer and help kind of escort older adults down the red carpet at the event.

So, yeah.

You've been escort before, Gretchen.

So, again, with Justin Moore, the presidency of the year, we brought to you on, thanks to, the smart and careful, thought process of the Toledo Community Foundation.

Now it's the younger transition into really important work to Gretchen's wacky point is, so if you don't know, we're going to ask you, six questions.

You're in the hot seat here for for give me, and then we're going to ask you your favorite thing about the region.

And then we're going to go through nine things from your mouth that are your favorite things about the city and or region or all 11 counties that you serve.

So you ready?

Ready.

Let's do it.

All right.

From the top.

What terrible movie do you love.

Never heard I'm gonna go with Knocked up.

Knocked up.

All right.

I did not see that coming.

Which game do you play the most on your phone.

Not a game on my phone.

I'm an old school Nintendo Entertainment System.

What's your name on that?

Yeah.

So I'm going to go Smash Bros.

64.

We can play that a lot, my son.

Yes.

Okay.

What you saying?

You play it?

Yeah.

My man.

What is your favorite sport to watch?

I guess I'll just say I know the answer to this.

Did you enjoy watching it from the bench in that seagull?

I did, yeah, the splinters in the rear were a little rough, but I don't.

What's the best advice you've been given?

Don't go on a show.

No.

I think the prayer, the importance of prayer, that's an important part of your life.

And I know that, it's been a solid.

So I, as you know, we're friends, and I'm proud of you.

Gretchen, what's your number one most favorite thing, or what you consider to be the best thing about the city of Toledo or the region?

My last name is pronounced kill him.

I'm going to go with, that's referred to oftentimes as Holy Toledo.

Right.

I think that holy means that is, place and a people that set apart, for God's special purpose.

So I think there's no better way to describe a place in people than that.

I love it.

Okay.

Nine words.

Any you can do a phrase, you can do individual words, but nine words that you got 30s to back it up.

Yeah.

I'm going to go with collaborative.

Caring.

Okay.

Age friendly.

I'm in River hands.

Metro parks, library, museum.

One more and we got it.

A great way to close.

What a brown noser.

Justin Moore, a dear friend of the show and the region.

We thank the School Community Foundation for bringing you on.

We thank you.

Work.

Justin, I know you've got a great team and we did not get to them, but that's all.

You talk to me a how great the people you work with in your board to give us the website real quick, where people can get more information.

Yeah, people can check us out.

Our area office on aging.com.

Okay.

All right.

We are heading into our next segment.

But we're going to say goodbye to a dear friend Justin.

Next we'll have Kathy comments on from our very own.

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Awesome.

Thank you.

Which you said executive connotation, but not on this show.

We are thrilled to have you back.

Bring amazing love energy not just to our show.

Because, Kevin, we desperately need you, but you have the energy you guys are brought.

Look at all the great guests that you guys have interviewed and talking about the great things that there's so many people that do so many things in this city.

Yes.

And if you watch this, it's like, I didn't know that.

I didn't know that people.

Really great thing you used to say.

Don't aren't you worried that you're going to run out of gas?

And we're like, absolutely not right, people.

And we never have enough time when we have them here.

And that is going to be true of you as well.

So I do not want to eat in your I'm sorry, Matt, what is your role here at?

I am the TV programmer.

I do all the TV schedules and also the engagement coordinator.

So the thought is I take the shows out to the community.

I bring the community in to teach them about our TV shows.

And I know we cover this last time you're on, but I don't care.

I want to talk about it again anyway.

How long you been with.

And you are clearly great at this.

Why are you so?

Why are you wired to be this effective?

He wanted to say insane.

Thank you.

Oh, that's what it's saying.

That's right.

Okay.

I would take it as a compliment.

Really?

Okay.

But I've been here 24 years, since February, so.

Yeah, I've been here a while.

Longest job I've ever had.

I'm one of those people that always when companies would consolidate, I got left behind.

So I've been able to stay.

So I've been very grateful.

But I work with a great group of people.

Yes, you do a great organization and we do great things for the community.

It's hard not to be happy all the time and really care about the stuff that we do.

We're very proud to be part of the station.

We're so glad to have you.

It's really been so one of the newest shows that just launched, I would say in the last two weeks or show.

Yes.

Is, a show called Sessions Blossom and our friend Kevin Mullen, who's not here today, is insanely into it.

Like he's going to the like the video.

He thinks it looks like a professional.

I mean, it is a professional show, but like a nationally produced show.

So the production team, Kevin can't be here today because he's having elective surgery.

Oh yeah.

Sure hope that they probably have a lot of mean.

That's right.

I got another one.

The first one didn't take back.

We'll also be doing sessions when he gets back.

But yes, we Kerry Patrick Clark just, dropped this past Saturday.

Oh, cool.

And Jake Petoskey was a Saturday before he was like, Jake on the show, too.

Was a fantastic people guy.

Yeah.

And, Jake has been like, well, I'll help you with anything you need to do with us.

And I'm Kerry Patrick Clark as well, so.

But we have just a big diverse we're starting off with five as a pilot.

So we have five bands.

They've done five songs for us.

And then the thought is it's a kind of a multilayered thing.

It's a shame, great shame thought process.

But for those of you who don't know, Shane is our producer and production manager and a total nightmare.

Yeah, not words that my words keep going.

I put words in my mouth.

But anyway, so it's going to start out two songs on the digital to give you a little bit of a taste.

Kind of like an NPR tiny desk kind of thing.

Yeah.

And then later on, I love that we're hoping I have eight bands to get to film, so we're hoping for support at this point to support this project and get it supported so that we can do the rest of them.

They'll get the two songs on the digital, and then all the everything will go into a long form show, half hour show like Austin City Limits.

So these are and there's interviews with them as well.

Right.

And these are their original songs.

Yes.

And you're recording these songs live.

Oh, Danny.

Danny, they have so grateful given us the club room upstairs.

They are so great to work with.

Yeah.

And, they love having us up there.

They promote us when we're there.

And, I know it's just it's such a great time.

So grateful for that.

Has been a stalwart for, millennia and in northwest Ohio and all over.

So I wouldn't suggest necessarily is pivoted because they've always been telling Toledo stories and the region's stories, but the you've really doubled down on that.

And sessions is a great example of that.

Why is this important?

And can you talk a little bit about, sort of the hyper local focus of the hyper local focus, I think is Toledo has to support Augie now.

Yeah.

You know, we lost a parent company, so to speak.

So now we are orphans.

That's what I tell people at my events.

But we're orphans.

So.

Mom and dad.

Hi.

I'm your child.

Yeah.

Yeah, as a proud.

Yeah, but we need your support.

So I think to do that support, we should really focus on community, local shows.

Yeah.

Shows about them and the community and stuff that that Toledo really cares about.

And it really is a singular location in our community, in my opinion, that is focused on hyper local.

Right?

That when we have these conglomerates that are joining each other and, and broadcasting from outside of the area with non local people, is is really the antithesis of that.

So it's very exciting.

So we're the glue that's pulling that together in addition to the sessions.

What what else is happening.

There's a whole bunch of things just for Toledo stories.

We have the Metro Park saying yes, that we're doing well.

We have two documentaries and that's not going to be and that is he was are, you know, okay.

No, actually, yeah.

Actual talented people are going to do that.

Yeah.

But but give us the whole the whole boat and tell us your favorite.

Well then my favorites going to be sessions because I'm really involved in it and I, my husband and I have watched live music forever.

That's kind of that's kind of our thing.

We don't go karaoke, we go see live bands and have before we knew each other.

So yeah, so I but Toledo has so many live bands.

There's so much talent in Toledo and you know, yeah, there's so much great things happening.

You know, people helping people doing great things for people.

Well, I think a lot of that is a part of it.

Cool connection about sessions and when it's coming out is this some of these same bands and artists are going to be the same bands that are going to be a party in the park, right, this summer.

Right.

Because they're doing also an all local focus and local talented bands, which at that, including Jake's band, is going to be one of the people that are going to be performing, but it gives these guys exposure.

People, a lot of people don't know how great these were.

So many good talent in Toledo singers and and for all kinds of good reasons.

And just some people just like to do it.

They just want to do it on their own.

We're with Kathy Kaminsky from our very own, but Kathy, I'm going to put you on the spot now.

Okay.

Does have to be a local band, but tell me the best concert you've ever been to.

Oh my gosh, I voted for 140 something to tango.

And I still go to concerts all the time.

I have like two in April and three in May.

I mean, if you ever get on my Facebook, it's my sister and my husband always at concerts.

Give me your favorite all time, the one you look at the most forward to.

Oh my gosh.

Well, actually I love music for anything from Mozart to Metallica.

Okay, so I just love music.

Yeah, and, Barry Manilow is next.

He's had to postpone his his.

That was my very first concert.

Was it really?

And I was in fourth grade at the University of Toledo.

He performed at the University of Toledo in Savage Hall.

Yeah.

And I still remember, like the Copacabana, he comes out on this thing and I still don't imagine how they were doing it, how they were getting calls about it, and what thing he comes out on this.

He's got the Copacabana, the big trophy, okay?

And they're like, it looks like he was like floating out.

But he was like being, you know, at a concert.

They were like bringing him out on the stage.

And it was like mesmerized.

I'd never seen anything like.

Is your height would be perfect.

But he's been sick with lung cancer, so he's had to postpone.

So now we're at August 2nd.

Okay.

My second favorite.

I'm seeing John Anderson and the Geek Orchestra on my birthday, so I'm very excited about that.

It's up at, Royal Oak.

Are you going to see Bruno Mars?

What's that?

Are you going to go to any of the Bruno Mars?

No, I don't we tried to.

Me and my sister looked into it.

So I'm kind of shy on stadium shows.

I like to go to more events where I feel trapped in a stadium, a little interesting, and you get bad seats, you get a lot of money.

That's the question.

You are a catcher and some of it is dragging your niece and nephew with you.

I get to see Jill Scott this summer.

Are you in Detroit?

And then also Bruno Mars?

So what's your favorite country of all time?

We can't say Barry Manilow.

No, probably, U2 in Chicago.

Ooh, love U2 fan.

Yes, I like you too.

I have never seen them, but I know a girl that works at the library is a U2 fan, and she's seen them many times.

And then I saw them in high school.

My my, my my friend Christy Combs and I, we're allowed to go on a school night to Cleveland.

Oh, my goodness, to see you too.

Then that was for the Joshua Tree.

Oh, wow.

Oh, wow.

And we got lost and it was a whole thing, but we had to go with the only agreement with our mothers was that we had to go to school the next day.

Okay, so that was a dear near Cleveland, but it was so fun.

I remember going to school the next day after going to the sports arena, and that was that was hard.

Yeah.

Kathy, what is a country that your husband loves that you loathe?

Oh, that I don't know.

I don't know if I loathe any.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

So Stevie Ray Vaughan would be.

We've seen him twice.

Okay, so the great show, but you guys.

But you love all the same stuff.

Yeah, we do love the same stuff.

And I love a little bit different stuff.

And he loves different stuff.

But yeah, Tedeschi Trucks is a big one.

We really like together a lot that he has like more than me.

But I really do like them.

Walk us through it is spring, right?

At least allegedly.

It doesn't always feel like it does not.

Right?

Not right now.

It walk us through a little bit of the closing schedule or ramping up spring summer for.

Oh, well, we just started this Sunday.

PBS has started three new masterpieces.

We have.

We're on our second episode, but Call the Midwife season 15 cute show.

Love that show that love women having babies 8:00 on a Sunday?

Yes, but in low income envelopes a little bit, yes.

But we still have a season 16 coming.

Okay, so so that's 16 seasons.

I've never seen this story.

I'm just.

So.

Yeah.

What's the first week?

It's, It's 19.

What started in 1950s England.

Okay.

When universal health care came and the nuns employed these, nurses to come and help these, these women had no health care, and they're having babies.

Babies at home.

Yeah, because at home.

And they need health care and other health care, too.

So and it's kind of then their personal stories blend in with the nuns personal stories.

It's just sweet and elegant.

Universal health care.

So it's science fiction.

Yeah.

It's I don't like when it's dark dystopian future.

It's a big one with PBS has the foresight.

They put a lot of money.

Yeah, a lot of promotion on it.

We're in.

We just had, the second episode this past Sunday.

And, you know, this is like a period drama, 1880s England and, the four sites is are a big, prominent family, and they are into stuff.

They're very rich.

They're new at being rich.

So they're very worried about their reputation.

They're very worried about, you know, how they look, the matriarch and, you know, has her family and, you know, it's full of it's full of money and riches and the time period clothing, sex, the whole bit, you know, the whole the whole the whole gamut.

Yeah, the whole gamut.

Everything that we love in a drama.

I don't want to, so highlight my hubris here, but I am not fearful of being new rich.

Yeah.

No you're not.

No, no, I would do I would try it out the first.

I seem to be doing quite well with that.

I would, I think, take to America.

Women want to be independent though.

And you see that little struggle.

You know they have to be independent.

And then they don't get well.

Then it was that was the man.

Yeah.

Speaking of male dominated, back, I'm taking the reins back of the show.

It's women's history month.

That's right.

You had.

So I guess I'm in charge.

Kevin's not here.

I signed up, and here we go.

Now.

No idea.

When you announce I'm in charge, you know you're doing well.

When you're like, I'm in charge, guys.

That's right.

Is that what you told me?

Saying?

Yeah.

Okay.

Can I just mention one more show?

Yeah.

It's 10:00 on Sundays.

The count of Monte Cristo.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, this is the story of the, a man who was wrongfully accused of being a spy to Napoleon.

And he has to go to jail for 15 years.

He was going to marry his love of his life.

They took.

They took her away.

They put him in this jail, in this dungeon for 15 years.

Jeremy Irons is in it and finds in him.

And he has.

He helps him get out and find this money, and he becomes the Count of Monte Cristo.

And then he pays revenge on all the people.

That's one of the sandwich people.

It's an eight episode thing, but people are loving.

This is just got one of my favorite stories of all time.

Put you on the spot.

What is your favorite Jeremy Irons role?

Oh, I can't think of one.

Yeah, one part of the show.

Thanks, Gretchen.

She's real fast on her feet, isn't she?

Kathy, did you take her out on the road and leave her?

All right.

For questions, the answer is reversal of fortune.

Gretchen.

Or scar or scar from 19.

Oh, like.

Like a king I've never seen.

Yeah.

All right.

What is.

Okay.

Wait, you didn't do the intro, Matt.

Oh.

I'm sorry.

Oh, well.

Oh, it's Gretchen's wacky quiz.

Oh, I get to do it too.

Oh, my gosh, I feel kind of honored.

And I had a question too before, because you and I talked a little bit before your segment started.

Yeah, that's a terrible movie that you love.

Oh, it's a Strange Brew by the McKenzie brothers, Rick Moranis and Bob Thomas.

I mean, come on, that is such a great movie, great culture to have watched it.

I guess.

But if you've got time and you got it, you got to make it through the beginning.

When they're at the movie, they trash the movie with, with a whole bunch of bugs.

But then after that, the movie really takes off and it's so it's so funny.

This is an educational show.

A whole mess is is a metric of measurement, right?

Yeah.

Yes.

Right.

Yes.

All right, all right.

Quit.

Stop messing around.

Kathy.

What is the worst job you could have?

Oh, boy.

Oh, gosh, I don't know.

Probably clean up, You can say poop.

Okay.

Yeah.

Good for you.

How brave.

Yeah, yeah.

Which aspect of your life would you like to improve?

Oh, Your foul mouth.

Maybe.

My attitude is.

Oh, yes, you're going to have to adjust it down to.

I have to have a reference in there, like, could you be a little more.

Calm down.

Okay, stop screwing around, guys.

If you could be any flavor of ice cream, which flavor would you be?

Oh, Chocolate mint?

Yeah, I put in the same.

Yeah.

You're good.

I was gonna say mint chip.

Mint chip.

What's your favorite ice cream flavor?

Mint chip?

Yeah, I don't that's another thing I like black top, chocolate chip and chocolate chip.

Yeah.

So that's that's a tremendous.

Yes.

One I think it's called handles but that's whatever.

What were the last two books that you read.

Just make them up.

Oh my gosh.

It's been a long time since I read an actual book because I have boys.

And I was a I was a sports mom.

Yeah.

So there's no time for books.

What about book that turned into a movie I didn't check it out for?

Our viewers are watching those.

Oh, sure.

You.

What's up?

Yeah.

The thorn birds.

Yeah.

Okay.

I did read that book, and I did read when I was younger.

I read the whole, American series like The Furies and the like The Americans.

And what was it, the bastard, the Americans, if yours.

All those.

There was like eight books that were so good.

I did read that being televised now I was on for nine years, so it is so, so good.

All right.

What's your number one most favorite thing or what you consider to be the best thing about the city of Toledo or the region?

I just love the diversity and the acceptance of the diversity.

I think we're a compassionate city, and I do love that.

Can you come up with nine things?

We got nine things.

Nine words, nine nine words, things that you would use to describe the city of Toledo or the region.

Okay, I would do diversity.

Okay.

Still, I would go with compassionate.

Okay.

Variety of things to do.

Yeah.

Restaurants.

What's your favorite?

Right.

Oh, tough tough tough tough.

You put me on the spot there.

I don't know, I like a lot of different kinds of food, so that's tough.

Mediterranean.

Mediterranean food for sure.

All right.

Yeah.

Just fun things.

The culture, the culture is so good.

And the big city.

But yet if you all say Metro, I'll cut that much.

Okay.

Metro parks, metro parks, metro parks.

Museum.

Yes.

The zoo, obviously great.

Partners with the zoo.

Great.

Because we try to do really good stuff in the community with you, with the metro parks, with the zoo, with the museum, with everybody else.

Okay.

That's great.

If you had final question.

Okay.

If you if you could make any show budget wasn't an issue.

Star star power was it an issue?

If you could make any show, that would be, What would your dream show be?

If you.

Are you really ready for this?

Yeah, probably going to be so.

I didn't even know that you had one, so I'm glad you do.

We have TJ Lipinski, who started the do up shows.

He was just a programmer like me and just started calling those and made a show I would love to do that with, like the 70s rock bands that are still kind of touring, like do a really big concert kind of thing, like Aerosmith, kiss, all those old band, Styx, journey, get them all together and do some kind of really big pledge show with some really awesome gifts.

I would have not mugs and DVD something really fun, like tickets to the show, that kind of thing to get them.

That would be that would be a dream.

That would be like I have to say about that in terms of push back is just a programmer is hardly how I would describe Cathy and Kim.

And so that's why it's so nice to have you on again.

Thank you.

Thank you for being here.

Thank you for everything you're doing for our beloved team.

Thank you for being here.

And thank you for what you guys are doing here by letting people know all the great stuff that goes on in the city, it's a pleasure to do so.

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Welcome back to the 419.

It is a strong close here.

We've had some great guests.

Justin Moore, who again, refuses to put an E at the end of his last name for their office, an aging Kathy, a star for 25 years.

And the caboose are strong.

Closer is a friend of the show, a friend of the region.

Meg Reznor.

Welcome.

Thank you.

I'm so happy to be here.

Thank you for being here.

Now, this show is airing, obviously, after, the big YWCA event, which was, last week.

So tell us a little bit about the day you were an award winner.

This year for business.

Tell us a little bit about the day.

I know it's such a big day for all of the award winners, I was there.

It was so great to see you up on the stage and receiving your award.

But can you tell us a little bit about the experience?

First of all, Lisa and their team just did an incredible job.

The day started with a private session where there were many, many proclamations, from lots of different officials, and it began with a pinning ceremony where they give you the pin, and my pin was presented by Rita Montour, who was my nominator.

Yeah.

And so that was an incredible moment.

And my sister and my sister in law were both there and kind of got to witness that whole way of Toledo just embracing and recognizing, you know, all these amazing women.

And the class of honorees this year was just incredible.

I was really touched to be included with them.

We're always at risk, when we bring people that we love and we know.

So well on the show without sort of telling their story from the beginning.

Right, because we know it.

But I did not know you, earlier in your career.

So, but I do know it.

Can you talk a little bit about your story, your family, which are certainly part of how you were able to receive such an important reward, but that's part of how this became to be.

Right?

So if someone is listening and for some reason doesn't know you, which is their loss, who is Meg Reznor?

So I grew up in a military family.

I'm one of the sixth and fifth of six kids.

We call ourselves the Fortunate Six.

Yeah, yeah.

Who do you like the least of the other?

No.

Just kidding.

I love them all.

That's right, that's right for sure.

And we also love Kevin.

But.

Kevin.

Yes.

Since my youngest brother and my, I was fortunate enough that we lived in one place for when I was from, like, first to eighth grade, but then I went to three high schools.

Yeah.

So I left Northern Virginia, which is where we were, and we went to high school in Hawaii, which is why I have this lay off and then we moved to Japan.

Yeah.

Where I graduated from high school and, Department of Defense high school here, just outside of Tokyo.

Okay.

But Hawaii was one of our favorite tours.

My dad was there twice.

And so any time we have a significant family event, leis come from Hawaii, Federal Express and so these were presented to me after this.

But your dad, also as somebody to to be acknowledged and indeed so my dad was a 1942 ROTC graduate from Princeton University and, joined the Army, obviously.

And, became a four star general.

Yeah.

So he's lacking leadership?

Yes.

Yeah.

That's right.

How are you able to overcome so he was just a leader from that.

Yeah.

Go.

And revered by those who worked for him.

I think a lot of my leadership style is, adapted from him.

Somebody said to me yesterday, like, you're always, like, so straight and so honest and so clear about what you want, but then you do it with this heart and generosity.

And that's, I think, how my father was described.

Do you would you describe your father that way, or do you think that's some influence of your mom?

Like how how do you what's the how were you raised by a four star general?

So, my parents were an incredible team.

I have an autistic brother who's a year and a half older than me.

So he was a lot of the center of how our family moved through life.

And, you know, he was born when autism wasn't even really know.

Sure.

And, they accused moms of being refrigerator moms and blamed the moms for this, right.

Childhood.

And he, she was just ahead of her time.

Yeah, she navigated his world just like a care navigator would do today.

She found him a child psychiatrist.

She got him into music.

She had him swimming.

All of the things that we do today for, children and adults with autism.

So they were an incredible team.

And my dad was gone for a year and a half, and we were all home.

My mom was on her own.

Wow.

And, I just remember my my dad and we had pictures of my dad over every light switch to remind us to turn off the light, turn it off, and then also just to make sure everybody knew he was watching.

That's right.

And, so they were really an incredible team.

And my mom was the, the soccer side for sure.

Yeah.

But they were they've just raised us with just the opportunity.

And each one of us is very different and has pursued different careers and talents in different ways.

And yeah, my parents really embraced that.

How does that play into the Russian?

You were raised by major magic.

That's right.

You might say something really talked about the parallels.

Same same same outcome.

That's exactly right.

No, but that's a I interrupted the, progression, which is, for the benefit of the show.

But, getting to Toledo to get us to get us here.

So I went to school at the University of Rhode Island.

Okay.

And the reason I went there was because we had relatives there, and we were living in Japan, and my parents didn't know where they were going to be.

And they're like, when your first year back in the States, after four years of traveling, you know, being outside of the mainland, we want you to be near family.

So I was going to go to Rhode Island for a year, and then transfer somewhere.

Franklin.

Yeah.

Or somewhere.

And I fell in love with Uri, so I stayed there.

And Owens Corning recruited on the Uri campus.

Okay.

And so I joined Owens Corning, and my first job was in Chicago, and I worked in Chicago, and that's where my husband Dick was also working.

So and so we met over the phone.

If you can believe it now.

Yes.

Yeah.

So he was working at one location.

I was working at the other.

Yeah.

That's the best way to meet me, I think.

Right.

Yes.

And had the phone be disconnected.

Always on the phone.

No video, just phone.

You know.

Any idea what I look like being, you know, and.

And what kind of work were you doing for Owens Corning?

So I was a customer service rep.

Okay.

In a distribution center.

Okay.

Which was also very funny because I thought I was moving to Chicago.

So I thought I was going to be like in the city.

And my sister helped me negotiate my, you know, starting salary package.

And she's like, be sure and ask them if there's parking and like what the parking cost.

And so they're like, oh, there's plenty of parking.

Yeah.

Because I was in an industrial park, Schomburg or something.

It's the largest industrial park in the United States at the time.

In a warehouse.

Plenty of parking was beautiful.

Plenty got plenty of parking.

So what?

What were the job positions?

That.

Yeah, we were both in customer service.

Okay.

And I want to make sure I wasn't your boss.

No.

Okay.

I was in the north location.

He was in the south location.

Okay?

And I was miserable.

Like, I was like, why did I do this?

I didn't have any friends.

I lived in the suburbs.

I still lived in the city.

I just had made some bad.

And the choices.

Sure.

And every night at 5:00, we would talk and he would talk me off the ledge.

And then the next morning I would come in because we had to share inventory and coordinate drivers to get into those kinds of things.

Yes.

Inventory.

Yeah.

And, and then one day, one of the drivers that we used to transport goods back and forth said, you gotta go meet this girl.

Yeah.

And so we did.

And, we dated for four years before anybody.

Oh my goodness.

Yeah.

And then you got somehow one or both of you got transferred to both got transferred.

We were that first joint couple to get transferred by the relocation department at Owens Corning.

And so I came to the headquarters in Toledo, which was the fiberglass tower at the time.

And, and Dick was working in the Detroit office.

And then you finished your career there?

I did, and when did you retire from there?

I left in 2008.

Okay.

And Dick was working and he had moved to a different company, and then he started his own manufacturers business.

And in 2008, when I left Owens Corning, as you know, the economy was in good, great Miss Awful.

And he was wrapping commercial roofing up in Detroit and relying on all of the auto dealers for their revamps.

And of course, they weren't doing any of that.

They weren't investing in their properties.

And so he said, well, I'm going to take a sabbatical.

So I said, okay.

Then I took a year and just tried to figure out what I wanted to do, and I did a lot of reflection.

I took advantage of all of the outplacement opportunities and really got grounded around things that were important to me and my values, if I may, at the risk in it's not a live show, so don't let it put you on the spot.

Yeah.

Your dad is, the definition of success, and the model.

Can you talk to me a little bit about taking a sabbatical?

Was that something that that was.

That sounds very brave to me.

Meaning, like it's okay to take a step here and figure out what's right for me.

Yeah.

Can you talk a little bit about that process?

Because it's probably not, you know, somebody that is a pillar in the community, which you are not will not be comfortable with me saying, but that's true.

It's probably not intuitive to people that you have also had to do things like this.

And you road has not been this linear path.

Right.

So can you talk to me a little bit about that?

That stopped to reflect and decide.

Yeah.

When I left Owens Corning it was it was an incredibly difficult time for me.

Yeah.

I was only 50.

Yeah.

It was earlier than I had expected.

It had been my whole career, right?

Yeah.

Yeah, absolutely.

Where that my husband and I have to this day, very deep and lasting, you know, friendships.

Yeah.

It was really a bit of my identity, of course.

So I, I remember my dad and and my whole family saying, we're going to love you right through this.

Yes.

And, you know, I explored some things and fortunately, Dick as a saver.

So, you know, it wasn't like, oh my God, I got to get a job the next day.

You know, food on the table.

So we had saved for this time earlier.

Yeah, than we expected.

Sure.

And it's the thing that I love doing today is when people are going through those transitions.

I love to walk them through my story.

Yes.

And also, I give them tools that I use that worked for me.

Yeah.

And, I just actually had a, a conversation with a woman who's going through a similar situation.

And she said this spreadsheet, which I've known for, changed her whole perspective about what to do next, because it's an inventory.

Like what's important to you?

How much money do you need to make?

Yeah.

Do you need benefits?

What kind of people do you want to look for?

What kind of work do you want to do?

And you get really grounded that these are my non-negotiables.

And one of my non-negotiables was I've got to be flexible to be with family.

And I'm not ready to go get married to another big company on three weeks application.

And that's how I landed on on bigger consulting companies.

So what is the name of your consulting company?

Right?

Associates.

And what was the, sort of there's all kinds of consultants out there, but what was your, topic, if you will, of the consultancy that you were doing started out in more of a process orientation, like helping companies document their processes and get ready for major change initiatives, particularly like technology deployments.

Right, I did, I don't know, 13 SAP deployments that Owens Corning.

So it started off in that path.

And my my first couple of years were working with another consultant on projects like that.

And then, I started to do more, bringing my HR work into the picture.

So strategic planning.

Yes, leadership development, HR helping companies find their vision.

And then I started working with a lot of nonprofits, which I really thought was like the perfect intersection to bring your professional skills in to organizations that are having I mean, process is process, right?

It is.

And applying that skill set that you have to any.

Correct?

Yeah.

The technology it's technology agnostic.

It's like if you know your processes and you document the way that you want them to be, then you can start to build the right tools and and technology and change management around that.

But the, the unusual combination that you are, Meg, is everything you just said might sound like Greek to others or clinical, but you do bring a human and soft portion of it, which is an absolutely rare gift of letting in the two things which I know.

I can see you screaming right now.

I do want to talk, but I want to ask one additional question.

And that in that is about Solheim.

That was when I first met you, too.

And, my life has been terrible ever since.

Actually, I first met everyone.

I met you when you came to work with your mom, but we just didn't know it.

That's true.

Yes.

Because that's my mom worked at Owens Corning.

That's right.

You know, when we met later on I was like tell them like are you related.

And like I, you know, I know your uncle and and I was like I'm like been Kathy about you to work.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Probably because you got kicked out of school.

It doesn't matter.

It was just.

It did work.

Yeah.

It's so fun to work that you were pioneers.

Yes.

You were.

Solheim Cup was the whole Solheim experience.

You were, a key component of that.

It was such a huge event.

It was planned during a global pandemic.

Talk a little bit about your either memories of that or what what you both what?

You're most proud of them.

So I was th co-chair with Richard Highland and it started I started on the bid committee.

So Inverness put a committee together, that represented Inverness as well as, members of the community to prepare the bid to present to the LPGA.

And so really, I was involved from the very beginning and we went down to the LPGA headquarters and made our presentation.

And then when we were at the successful, venue, then we became part of a committee that, really planned the entire event.

And I think what I'm most there are two things I think I'm most proud of.

One is the initiative we did called Toledo is for everyone, where we really wanted everybody in Toledo to know that they were welcome and that they belonged.

Correct.

And golf is not necessarily the most inclusive sport.

And so lots of people didn't think that they belonged.

Yeah.

And so Toledo is for everyone was a collaboration between lots of organizations, including the Area Office on Aging, Justin and, the site center and memory lane care services and the Ability center.

And we didn't want people to just come with the get on a scooter and not know where to go if they, you know, needed, help or transportation.

We, we put programs together with large print so that people who had low vision could see.

Yes, we had sensory friendly vehicle there.

So if you had somebody that had sensory challenges, a child or an adult, they had a place to go to get away from the noise and the craziness.

Yeah.

And so that that inclusive aspect to the tournament was really important to me.

And the second thing was, I said from the very beginning that I didn't want anybody to wake up on a Tuesday morning in Toledo and say, I missed it.

And the way that we did the fan experience, which is where I met all of you and through the city to test every restaurant, you know, when we went to Des Moines for the first Solheim Cup that I attended, we went downtown to dinner and our red, white and blue and people were like, what are you here for?

Right?

And I was like, how can you not know that Solheim Cup is on the street six miles away?

And we're like, that's not going to happen.

So I went to every restaurant, we put posters.

And so I just think and my job was really just to make sure there were enough volunteers.

So I feel like we took it to another level again.

I think we were really recognized by the LPGA family and Toledo really showed up.

So it was such an amazing weekend.

Thanks largely to your leadership, we only have time for the full report.

We can go into our section.

But anyway, go ahead.

You're not in charge leading the show.

So.

All right, we've got to do it.

Gretchen's a wacky quiz.

I know that you're somewhat prepared for this, Meg.

But we'll start off with.

What does happiness mean to you?

Family.

All right.

If you could instantly become an expert in something, what would it be?

Music?

Yeah.

When was the last time you laughed?

Minutes ago.

Five seconds ago.

What would you change about yourself?

What would I change?

Gretchen, I have a list of things that we would change about you if it help.

I think it goes back to this music.

I. I have a family.

My family is full of musicians, and they play guitar and they sing, and I can't carry anything.

So I think if I were musically inclined, I'd be really.

That would be it.

Let's take one more second.

We won't do the nine, but let's do your number one most favorite thing about the city of Toledo or the region community.

Very good.

All right.

Congratulations on your award.

Thank you.

Thank you for being here.

Meg Reznor, a friend of the family, friend of the region.

You're a great leader and a great friend.

Congratulations on a well-deserved award.

We love you.

And when we come back, we'll be closing out the show.

Without Kevin, it will be the best show we've ever had.

That is our promise to you.

Thank you.

Thank you for.

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All right, welcome back.

It is the close of our first solo show, Gretchen, as usual, carried by our guests, and Meg Reznor, a great, close, great lady.

We were talking it, off the air.

Just a little bit about Solheim.

And what a gift she is to the region.

But that is a good segue to the entire cast of characters we had on, today's program.

It is an embodiment of what we wanted the show to be about people telling their stories and reminding people of how great our region is.

It really is.

And I was at the YWCA luncheon last week and I was thinking was there were there were 600 and some odd people there.

I'm like, we just go around the room and sign all these people up.

Yeah.

That's right.

No, to be on the show because we mean, there there are people doing good things everywhere and they're not hard to find.

Today's show, of course, is sponsored, are supported by Toledo Community Foundation.

They are the epicenter of a lot of great things happening.

New leadership there.

So Kate Sommerfeld and new crew, are going to be bringing even more exciting things, to life and supporting the community in a great way.

We also navigated through some of the complexities of the show.

I've had, voices in my head, in my ear for the first time.

I'd have them actually be real people, which is a challenge I have actu grown to appreciate, Kevin, which is not something I thought I would ever say out loud.

Yeah.

Me neither.

I mean, I never thought you would say it.

Yeah, well, we are closing the show, and this is the part I'm going to read to you.

For those of you that might be listening or watching for the very first time, just a reminder.

You want me to read it?

Yes.

I do know you.

Go ahead.

Okay.

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I don't know what that means, but I'm sure that it's a demanding app.

My man.

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