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TED: GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO THIS AZ VOTES 2024 SPECIAL EDITION OF "ARIZONA HORIZON."

I'M TED SIMONS.

TONIGHT WE WELCOME REPUBLICAN U.S. SENATE CANDIDATE KARI LAKE, MS. LAKE AND RUBEN GALLEGO WERE INVITED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE DEBATE IN THE ELECTION COVERAGE INITIATIVE.

MS. LAKE ACCEPTED THE INVITATION, MR. GALLEGO DECLINED.

BECAUSE THE STATION EXTENDED INVITATIONS FOR ONE-ON-ONE INTERVIEWS.

WE'RE WORKING WITH MR. GALLEGO'S CAMPAIGN TO SCHEDULE HIS INTERVIEW, BUT TODAY WE WELCOME KARI LAKE TO "ARIZONA HORIZON."

GOOD TO SEE YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING TIME FOR US.

>> GOOD TO BE BACK, AND THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY.

LOOKING FORWARD TO A ROBUST DISCUSSION.

TED: LET'S MAKE IT ROBUST.

WHY ARE YOU RUNNING FOR UNITED STATES SENATE.

NO ELECTIVE OFFICE AS YET.

WE'RE TALKING UNITED STATES SENATE HERE.

NATIONAL IMPORTANCE.

WORLDWIDE SIGNIFICANCE.

WHY ARE YOU RUNNING AND HOW ARE YOU QUALIFIED?

.

>> NEED TO GET MORE CITIZENS INVOLVED IN POLITICS AND FEWER POLITICIANS, AND WE'VE SEEN THE LIFE LONG POLITICIANS, PEOPLE WHO MADE A CAREER OUT OF BEING IN POLITICS AND THEY'VE CONTINUALLY MADE TERRIBLE VOTES TO HURT US, AND ONE OF THE PEOPLE I'M RUNNING AGAINST, RUBEN GALLEGO, HAS DONE THAT IN CONGRESS.

WHEN I RECOGNIZED THAT, HE WAS TRYING TO PUSH A MORE MODERATE PERSON, A MORE MODERATE SENATOR, KYRSTEN SINEMA, OUT OF OFFICE BECAUSE SHE WASN'T RADICAL LEFT ENOUGH.

WE HAVE TO FIGHT FOR THE SEAT.

THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT SEAT.

HE WANTED TO PUSH HER OUT.

SHE BECAME AN INDEPENDENT, AS MANY PEOPLE KNOW AND FOUGHT TO SAVE THE FILIBUSTER AND RUBEN GALLEGO WAS FURIOUS AND SAID I'M GOING TO CHALLENGE HER.

KNOWING HOW RADICAL HIS VOTING RECORD IS, TED, I SAID, SOMEONE'S GOT TO JUMP IN THERE AND STOP THIS.

HE'S TOO RADICAL FOR ARIZONANS TO BE IN THE U.S. SENATE.

TED: TO STOP THIS IS ONE THING.

YOUR QUALIFICATIONS, ONCE YOU STOP IT, YOU'RE ON CAPITOL HILL, A MEMBER OF THE UNITED STATES SEASON.

YOU HAVEN'T HELD GOVERNMENT OFFICE BEFORE.

HOW ARE YOU QUALIFIED?

>> THAT'S THE TOP OF MY RESUME.

WE DON'T WANT BUREAUCRATS, WE WANT REAL PEOPLE WHO HAVE WORKED REAL JOBS AND I COVERED THIS STATE, AS YOU KNOW, AS A FAIR AND HONEST JOURNALIST FOR 27 YEARS.

I'VE BEEN A BROADCAST JOURNALIST FOR 30 YEARS, I UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES OF THIS STATE PROBABLY BETTER THAN MOST PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON, D.C.

UNDERSTAND THEIR STATES.

I'VE COVERED THE ISSUES FOR SO MANY YEARS AND KNOW THE PEOPLE OF ARIZONA BETTER THAN ANYBODY IN THIS STATE.

I'VE HAD A LONG RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM, SO UNDERSTANDING THE ISSUES, UNDERSTANDING THE PEOPLE AND KNOWING WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR STATE RIGHT NOW IS UNTENABLE AND NEED TO BRING A CHANGE TO WASHINGTON, D.C. >> GOT A LOT TO GET TO TONIGHT BUT WANT TO GET THIS OUT OF THE WAY.

LET'S GET TO IT.

DO YOU STILL MAINTAIN THAT YOU WON THE 2022 GOVERNOR'S RACE?

>> WE HAD A LOT OF PROBLEMS IN THE 2022 RACE.

IT WASN'T RUN PROPERLY, WASN'T RUN LAWFULLY.

WE'RE FIGHTING FOR ELECTION INTEGRITY.

WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO HAVE ELECTIONS.

EVERY ELECTION, ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER, SAYS THERE WERE MAJOR PROBLEMS, THE MORE WE DRAG OUT ELECTIONS AND TURN IT INTO ELECTION SEASON, THE FURTHER WE GET FROM ELECTION DAY, LIKE IT USED TO BE WHEN WE SIGNED UP TO VOTE MANY YEARS AGO, WE USED TO HAVE ELECTION DAY.

NOW WE HAVE ELECTION MONTH.

OPENS UP A LOT OF PROBLEMS.

WE'RE FIGHTING TO TURN THE ELECTIONS AROUND.

THE ELECTION WAS NOT RUN PROPERLY, AND I DON'T BELIEVE IT WAS RUN LAWFULLY EITHER.

TED: IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IT WAS RUN LAWFULLY.

THERE HAVE BEEN NO PROSECUTIONS, NO CONVICTIONS, NO VICTORIES, A TRIAL, APPEAL, A SUPREME COURT.

AT WHAT POINT DO YOU GIVE UP THAT PARTICULAR EFFORT AND SIMPLY MOVE ON?

>> I NEVER WANT TO MOVE ON FOR PUSHING FOR HONEST AND TRANSPARENT ELECTIONS.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD WANT TO.

IF WE SEE PROBLEMS IN THE ELECTION, IT'S OUR DUTY TO CALL THEM OUT AND MAKE THEM BETTER.

THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS I WANT TO GO TO D.C.

I'M SICK OF WATCHING POLITICIANS KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.

HUGE PROBLEMS, IGNORE IT, GLOSS OVER IT, THROW MONEY AT IT BUT NEVER FIX IT.

I'M SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO GET THINGS DONE.

TED: PROBLEMS ARE ONE THING, CLAIMS OF ELECTION FRAUD, ELECTION BEING RIGGED AND YOU RIGHTFULLY WON THE ELECTION, THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT THING AND COMES TO JUDGMENT OF CHARACTER.

I'M NOT BRINGING IT UP JUST TO BRING IT UP.

ARIZONA VOTERS WANT TO KNOW SHOULD THEY SEND SOMEONE TO WASHINGTON, UPPER CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WHO IS TILTING THE WHEEL, THERE ARE QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS, AND YOU RAISED THEM, NOTHING ILLEGAL.

YOU MENTIONED LAW.

NOTHING AGAINST THE LAW HAS BEEN FOUND.

WHEN DO YOU STOP WITH THIS?

>> WE'RE WORKING WITH SERIOUS PROBLEMS WHERE THEY ARE FINDING THINGS WERE NOT FOLLOWED.

THE LAW WAS NOT FOLLOWED.

RIGHT THIS MINUTE AS WE SPEAK, WE'RE FINDING THAT MORE THAN 220,000 VOTERS FELL THROUGH A LOOPHOLE, AND HAVE NOT PROVEN CITIZENSHIP.

WE STILL HAVE PROBLEMS, TED.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR ELECTIONS ARE FAIR AND HONEST AND CERTAINLY HOPE YOU DO AS WELL.

I WANT EVERY LEGAL VOTE TO COUNT, WHETHER YOU ARE THE MOST LIBERAL DEMOCRAT OR MOST CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN OR WHERE MOST OF ARIZONA IS SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN.

I WANT EVERY LEGAL VOTE TO COUNT BUT DON'T WANT INVALID VOTES COUNTED.

DON'T WANT PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE ILLEGALLY TO VOTE, AND MY OPPONENT RUBEN GALLEGO VOTED TWICE NOW, JUST A MINUTE, TED, VOTED TWICE NOW FOR PEOPLE WHO COME IN ILLEGALLY NOT ONLY GET ASYLUM BUT HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE.

I'M GOING TO MAKE SURE ONLY AMERICAN CITIZENS ARE ALLOWED TO VOTE.

TED: WE'RE GOING TO ASK HIM ABOUT THAT.

I DON'T REMEMBER HIM SAYING THAT.

>> IT WOULD BE NICE IF HE WERE.

IF YOU NOTICED, HE'S NOT DOING PRESS CONFERENCES.

IF HE DOES, TAKES ONE OR TWO QUESTIONS FROM PEOPLE HE'S CHOSEN TO ASK THE QUESTION.

HE'S NOT VERY TRANSPARENT.

HE'S RUNNING FROM HIS RECORD.

TED: LAST QUESTION ON THIS, AND AGAIN BACK TO THE FIRST QUESTION ON THIS.

YOU'RE RUNNING FOR SENATE, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU THINK YOU ARE THE GOVERNOR OF ARIZONA AND YOU WON THAT RACE.

GET THE LINE.

GIVE US A DEFINITIVE I'M OUT OF THAT, I'M INTO THIS.

>> I'M OBVIOUSLY RUNNING FOR U.S. SENATE BUT FIGHTING FOR TRANSPARENT AND HONEST ELECTIONS.

RUNNING TO BE YOUR NEXT U.S.

SENATOR, AND WHETHER WE AGREE OR DISAGREE, TED, I WANT TO REPRESENT YOU WELL, REPRESENT EVERYONE WATCHING AND BE A SENATOR FOR THE PEOPLE OF ARIZONA.

THE PEOPLE OF ARIZONA KNOW I'M A FIGHTER AND WE NEED SOMEONE TO FIGHT FOR OUR STATE.

NOT JUST FIGHTING FOR THE LOBBYISTS AND WHAT THE LOBBYISTS WANT.

MY OPPONENT IS MARRIED TO A LOBBYIST AND CARRIES THE WATER FOR ALL OF HER BILLS, 34 OR 38 BILLS HE'S COSPONSORED AND PUSHED HAVE BEEN HER LOBBYING FIRM'S AGENDA.

I DON'T WANT A LOBBYING FIRM'S AGENDA MOTIVATING A U.S.

SENATOR FROM ARIZONA.

I WANT THE PEOPLE AND THE NEEDS OF OUR STATE MOTIVATING THE SENATE.

TED: WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET AN ANSWER REGARDING WHETHER OR NOT YOU STILL THINK YOU WON THE 2022 GUBERNATORIAL RACE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

>> I THINK YOU CAN LOOK BACK AT EVERY INTERVIEW I'VE DONE AND FIGURE OUT WHERE I STAND ON IT, BUT HERE WE ARE, FIVE MINUTES INTO THIS, WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT INFLATION.

TED: THAT'S BECAUSE I CAN'T GET AN ANSWER FROM YOU, KARI.

>> LET ME JUST, FOR A MINUTE, TED.

YOU TALK ABOUT ME EVERY WEEK ON THE SHOW, NEVER INVITED ME ON.

YOU GET YOUR GROUP OF LIBERAL JOURNALISTS, PROPAGANDISTS AND TALK ABOUT THE ELECTION, YOU CAN'T MOVE ON.

I'M MOVING ON.

I'M RUNNING FOR U.S. SENATE, NOT GOVERNOR, I'M RUNNING FOR U.S. SENATE -- JUST A MOMENT, LET ME ANSWER.

TED: PLEASE.

>> AND YOU WANT TO FOCUS ON THE LAST ELECTION, SOMETHING YOU ACCUSE ME OF FOCUSING ON.

TED: I ASK BECAUSE IT COMES TO QUESTIONS OF CHARACTER AND JUDGMENT, AND WHETHER OR NOT SOMEONE WHO PERSISTS IN SAYING SOMETHING THAT HASN'T BEEN PROVEN AND EVIDENCE DOESN'T SHOW SHOULD THEY BE REPRESENTING ARIZONA ON CAPITOL HILL?

THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING.

>> YOU KNOW WHO SHOULD BE REPRESENTING PEOPLE ON CAPITOL HILL?

PEOPLE WHO CARE TO FIGHT FOR ARIZONA AND ANY VOTER WHO HAS BEEN DISENFRANCHISED I WILL FIGHT FOR.

LET'S TALK ABOUT CHARACTER REAL QUICK, TED.

MY OPPONENT BEFORE HE GOT INTO POLITICS DECIDED TO OPEN A BANK AND PARTNERS A BANK FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.

HE BUILT PRIMARILY LATINO IMMIGRANTS OUT OF THE LIFE SAVINGS.

HE GOT INVESTIGATED FOR FRAUD AND WENT TO WORK FOR AN AMBULANCE COMPANY THAT ENDED UP BEING UNDER FEDERAL INVESTIGATION FOR DEFRAUDING MEDICARE.

WHEN HE WORKED AT CITY HALL, HE HAD MANY ACCUSATIONS OF HARASSMENT BY, ONE, BY A 20-YEAR-OLD FEMALE INTERN.

WHEN SHE COMPLAINED ABOUT THE HARASSMENT AT THE HANDS OF RUBEN GALLEGO, HE GOT HER FIRED.

HE WENT OVER TO LEGISLATURE -- THIS IS HIS EXPERIENCE, BY THE WAY, AND HE WAS CALLED THE TROLL BY HIS OWN COLLEAGUES BECAUSE OF THE WAY HE TREATED WOMEN.

BE LITTLING THEM, SCREAMING AT THEM, HE HAD A SEXUAL HARASSMENT CHARGE AGAINST HIM.

THAT SAYS A LOT ABOUT CHARACTER.

IS THAT THE CHARACTER OF SOMEBODY WE WANT IN THE U.S. SENATE?

TED: THOSE ARE ACCUSATIONS THAT YOU ARE MAKING, AND WE'LL HAVE TO CHECK THE ACCUSATIONS -- >> HE'S A HOT HEAD AND YOU SHOULD READ HIS BOOK.

TED: I DID READ HIS BOOK AND I INTERVIEWED HIM AFTER READING THE BOOK.

YOU CALLED FOR THE IMMEDIATE ARREST AND DEPORTATION OF THOSE WHO AREN'T HERE WITH OFFICIAL AND LEGAL AUTHORIZATION, DO YOU STILL WANT THAT TO HAPPEN, AND WHAT DO YOU THINK THE RAMIFICATIONS OF THAT ARE?

>> THE IMMEDIATE ARRESTS, I'M CALLING FOR THE REPATRIATION OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME IN ILLEGALLY UNDER THE BIDEN INVASION.

IN THE PAST THREE YEARS, WE'VE HAD UPWARDS OF 20 MILLION PEOPLE WHO HAVE POURED THROUGH THE COUNTRY ILLEGALLY.

YOU AND I ARE FOOTING THE BILL FOR HOUSING, FOOTING THE BILL FOR EBT CARDS WHICH HAS THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO PURCHASE FOOD ON IT AND TAKING JOBS AND DEPRESSING THE WAGES OF AMERICAN CITIZENS WATCHING TONIGHT.

TED: 80% OF THOSE HERE WITHOUT LEGAL AUTHORIZATION HAVE BEEN HERE FOR TEN YEARS.

>> I'M TALKING ABOUT THE BIDEN INVASION.

TED: HOW DO YOU DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN THOSE PEOPLE, A, AND THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN HERE -- >> BECAUSE THEY'RE BEING PROCESSED, WE HAVE INFORMATION ON IT.

TED: HOW DO YOU DEPORT THEM?

DO YOU USE LAW ENFORCEMENT?

THE NATIONAL GUARD?

HOW DO YOU GET THIS DONE?

>> WE'LL START WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE AND COUNTER THE POLICE IN A CRIMINAL WAY AND DEPORT THEM.

HAND THEM OVER TO I.C.E.

AND WORK ON DEPORTING THEM.

THIS IS NOT IMPOSSIBLE.

WE HAVE TO WORK OUT ALL OF THE DETAILS OF THAT, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE IT'S A DIFFICULT TASK, WE SHOULDN'T DO IT, TED?

>> MY QUESTION IS -- >> IT'S A DIFFICULT TASK, WE SHOULDN'T DO IT?

TED: MY QUESTION IS, SHOULD YOU DEPORT PEOPLE WHO HAVE AMERICAN-BORN CHILDREN HERE?

THEY'RE NOT AUTHORIZED, THE CHILDREN ARE.

DO YOU SEPARATE THOSE FAMILIES?

>> I'M TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO POURED IN THE PAST THREE YEARS.

WE'LL WORK THROUGH THE DETAILS OF IT ONCE WE WIN THE ELECTION, AND WORK THROUGH THE DETAILS.

LET ME TELL YOU, TED, THE PEOPLE WATCHING TONIGHT WANT TO REPATRIATE THESE PEOPLE HOME.

WE HAVE TO SAVE OUR HOMELAND.

IN ORDER TO SAVE OUR HOMELAND, WE HAVE TO SEND THEM BACK TO THEIR HOMELAND.

IT'S IN THEIR BEST INTEREST TO PACK UP AND GO.

WE CAN MOVE LARGE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE.

TED: IF YOU MOVE LARGE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE, STUDIES HAVE SHOWN, UNIVERSITY OF COLORADO DID A STUDY, GEORGE MASON DID A STUDY FOR EVERY ONE MILLION PEOPLE DEPORT, 88,000 U.S.-BORN FOLKS WOULD LOSE THEIR JOBS.

IS THAT WORTH IT?

>> I'D HAVE TO SEE THE STUDY.

I DON'T TRUST A LOT OF STUDIES COMING OUT OF THE LIBERAL OUTLETS RIGHT NOW.

TED: GEORGE MASON -- WOULD BE A SHOCK TO THEM IF THEY WERE CALLED A LIBERAL UNIVERSITY.

HERE'S THE QUESTION, IT'S NOT A ONE FOR ONE TRANSACTIONAL KIND OF THING.

THE ECONOMY AS YOU KNOW IS COMPLICATED AND INTRICATE.

YOU CAN'T LOSE ALL THESE FOLKS WITHOUT AFFECTING THE ECONOMY SIGNIFICANTLY.

>> THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME IN THE PAST 3 1/2 YEARS, HAVE INVADED OUR COUNTRY.

THIS IS AN INVASION OF OUR COUNTRY AND NOT FAIR TO THE AMERICAN CITIZEN, TED.

YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE ECONOMY, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE ECONOMY.

TED: PLEASE.

>> WHEN YOU TAKE 21 MILLION PEOPLE, 10 MILLION, WHATEVER THE ESTIMATE IS, I DON'T BELIEVE THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION, THEY LIED ABOUT NUMBERS WHEN IT COMES TO JOBS.

I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE AN ACCURATE PEOPLE HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE POURED IN.

THIS IS AFFECTING OUR ECONOMY AND ABILITY TO AFFORD THINGS, TED.

THEY HAVE TO LIVE SOMEWHERE, THEY'RE TAKING HOUSING FROM AMERICANS.

THIS IS WHY THREE CITIES IN ARIZONA ARE ON THE LIST OF THE TOP TEN CITIES IN THE COUNTRY WHERE RENT PRICES HAVE SHOT UP.

PROBABLY DOESN'T AFFECT YOU, TED, BECAUSE YOU MAKE A GOOD LIVING.

PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING AND I CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE STRUGGLING.

I KNOW YOU CARE MORE ABOUT PEOPLE HERE ILLEGALLY.

I CARE ABOUT THE AMERICAN CITIZENS, AND I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT THE MEDIA HAS NOT COVERED THIS WELL.

TED: THE MEDIA -- FIRST OF ALL, THE MEDIA HAS COVERED THIS WELL, SECOND OF ALL, JEROME POWELL, FED CHAIR, SAYS IN CERTAIN REGIONS OF THIS COUNTRY -- THIS IS A QUOTE -- MIGHT BE IMMEDIATE UPTICK IN TERMS OF IMMIGRANTS COMING IN AND RENTAL PRICES.

IN THE LONG TERM, NO EFFECT, IT'S NEUTRAL.

>> TED, TED, THIS IS BASIC SUPPLY AND DEMAND.

TED: IT'S MORE THAN BASIC SUPPLY AND DEMAND.

>> WHERE ARE PEOPLE LIVING?

TED: IT'S AN INTRICATE ECONOMY.

>> WHERE ARE THEY LIVING, TED?

AMERICANS ARE LIVING IN TENTS ON THE STREET.

TED: CBO SAYS IMMIGRATION IS NEUTRAL AS FAR AS THE ECONOMY AND INFLATION IN PARTICULAR IS CONCERNED, JEROME POWELL, THE HEAD OF EVERYTHING INFLATION SAYS IT'S NEUTRAL AS WELL.

ARE THEY WRONG?

>> I'M NOT BLAMING ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS FOR INFLATION.

YOU KNOW WHO I'M BLAMING?

PEOPLE LIKE RUBEN GALLEGO WHO VOTED FOR THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT AND $1.9 TRILLION SPENDING BILL.

I'M BLAMING KAMALA HARRIS AND RUBEN GALLEGO FOR THE INFLATION.

THEY'RE SPENDING MONEY LIKE THERE'S NO TOMORROW.

WHEN YOU PRINT MONEY LIKE THERE'S NO TOMORROW, YOU CAUSE INFLATION TO SHOOT UP.

THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE DONE.

TED: THE $6.6 BILLION CHIPS AND SCIENCE ACT, YOU WOULD NOT SUPPORT THAT?

>> THE CHIPS ACT.

THERE WERE PROBLEMS WITH IT.

I LIKED PARTS OF IT.

OTHER PARTS I DIDN'T LIKE.

LOOK AT INTEL.

THEY GOT BILLIONS, A FORTUNE AND LET OFF 15,000 WORKERS.

WE NEED A DEAL.

IF WE GET THE MONEY, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO LAY OFF 15,000 PEOPLE.

TED: WITHOUT THE DEAL, TSMC WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED.

>> I DIDN'T SAY I WOULDN'T SUPPORT IT.

IF I WERE IN THE SENATE, I WOULD CHANGE IT UP.

TED: THAT'S GOVERNMENT SPENDING AND SO IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE ACT WHICH ARIZONA RECEIVED $7 BILLION.

>> WE COULD RENAME IT THE INFLATION PRODUCTION ACT.

ARE YOU DENYING WE'VE HAD INFLATION SHOOT THROUGH THE ROOF, AND THAT THINGS HAVEN'T GOTTEN UNAFFORDABLE?

TED: NOT DENYING THAT, BUT POINTING OUT THAT THE ECONOMY RIGHT NOW, GDP IS UP, UNEMPLOYMENT IS DOWN, INFLATION HAS EASED TO THE POINT WHERE INTEREST RATES HAVE BEEN DROPPED BY JEROME POWELL.

>> I LIKE HOW YOU SAID THAT, EASED.

INFLATION GOES UP A FEW PERCENTAGE POINTS, THE PRICE GOES UP.

TED: STOCK MARKET IS TOUCH AND GO WITH RECORD NUMBERS HERE, AND YOU'RE SAYING THE ECONOMY IS -- I THINK YOUR QUOTE WAS.

>> I HAVE A GREAT IDEA FOR YOU, WHEN YOU RETIRE HERE, YOU SHOULD WORK FOR KAMALA HARRIS.

YOU ARE A GREAT SPOKESPERSON FOR HER POLICIES.

THE POLICIES ARE DISASTROUS.

THIS IS COMICAL WATCHING YOU PUSH FOR THE POLICIES CRUSHING THE AMERICAN FAMILY.

TED: I AM ASKING TO YOU EXPLAIN WHY THE ECONOMY IS FALLING APART WHEN THE INDICES SHOW IT'S NOT?

>> LET'S LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, THE JOB GROWTH NUMBER, THEY THREW ANOTHER HUGE NUMBER OUT.

JOB GROWTH, ONLY TO HAVE TO REVISE IT DOWNWARD BY 818,000 JOBS.

YOU COULD CALL IT A MISTAKE OR THEY'RE LYING.

THE REAL ECONOMY OF MOMS AND DADS TRYING TO PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE.

I TALK TO A LOT MORE PEOPLE IN ARIZONA EVERY DAY.

TALK TO THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE A WEEK IN ARIZONA, AND THEY'RE STRUGGLING.

I TALKED TO A WOMAN IN THE WEST VALLEY.

A RETIREE.

SHE SAID KARI, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A VOLUNTEER.

I HAVE DONATED AND MADE MY TIME AVAILABLE FOR THE FOOD BANKS.

I'VE DONATED FOOD, ESPECIALLY DURING THE HOLIDAYS.

SHE SAID FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE, I'VE HAD TO GO TO FOOD BANK AND PUT MY HAND OUT AND ASK FOR HELP.

MORE AND MORE FAMILIES -- IF YOU DON'T MIND, I WOULD LIKE TO FINISH.

TED: PLEASE.

>> I WORRY ABOUT THE FAMILY IN ARIZONA STRUGGLING TO MANGEDS MEET.

THE ECONOMY IS NOT WORKING.

RENTS ARE GOING UP.

WE DID A PRESS CONFERENCE THE OTHER DAY, A COUPLE IN THEIR 60s, RETIREES, THEY ARE NOT ONE PAYCHECK AWAY, NOT ONE SOCIAL SECURITY CHECK FROM GOING UNDER, ONE UNEXPECTED BILL FROM GOING UNDER AND BEING HOMELESS.

TED: AS A U.S.

SENATOR, WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS AND ISSUES?

WOULD YOU EXTEND THE TRUMP TAX FROM 2017?

ESTIMATES ARE IT WOULD ADD $4.6 TRILLION OF DEBT IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS, IS THAT A WISE THING TO DO?

>> YES, WE'RE GOING TO EXTEND THE TRUMP TAX CUTS.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT TIME TO CUT TAXES ON OVERTIME.

YOU'RE REWARDING PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO WORK HARD.

AND GROW OUR WAY OUT OF THIS.

WHEN PRESIDENT TRUMP GETS BACK IN OFFICE, WE'RE GOING TO RESHORE MANUFACTURING.

ARIZONA IS POISED IN A BEAUTIFUL SPOT TO RESHORE MANUFACTURING.

PRESIDENT TRUMP IS GOING TO WORK TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING FACTORIES BROUGHT BACK TO AMERICA, GET PEOPLE BACK IN THE JOBS AND GROW OUR WAY OUT.

REVENUES WILL GROW.

WHEN WE UNLEASH THE POWER OF THE INDIVIDUAL IN THIS COUNTRY AND CUT BACK REGULATIONS WHICH JOE BIDEN, PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS DONE A GREAT JOB CUTTING BACK REGULATIONS AND JOE BIDEN CAME?

AND THEY HAVE HEAPED MORE AND MORE AND MORE REGULATIONS ON BUSINESSES, INCLUDING MANY SMALL BUSINESSES, WHICH MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE TO COMPETE WITH THE CORPORATIONS.

WE'RE GOING TO PULL BACK THE REGULATIONS.

WE'RE GOING TO EXTEND THE PRESIDENT TRUMP TAX CUTS.

TED: IN SPITE WHAT IT DOES TO THE FEDERAL DEFICIT?

>> WE'RE GOING TO BE FINE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO START GROWING BUSINESSES AGAIN.

TED: ECONOMISTS DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN THEY SAY IT WILL INCREASE $4.6 TRILLION OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS.

>> IT MAY CONTINUE THAT BUT NOT UNDER THE PRESIDENT TRUMP ECONOMY.

THEY'RE PUTTING THE NUMBERS TOGETHER BASED ON THE STAGNANT ECONOMY WE HAVE NOW.

WE'RE GOING TO GROW OUR WAY OUT OF THIS.

LET ME ASK YOU TO LOOK BACKWARDS A LITTLE BIT.

LOOK BACK ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO WHEN PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS IN OFFICE, OKAY?

WE WERE DOING GREAT.

EVERYBODY WAS DOING BETTER, TED.

EVERYBODY WATCHING WAS DOING BETTER UNDER PRESIDENT TRUMP, WHETHER THEY LOVED OR HATED HIM.

ECONOMY WAS GROWING, EVERY SECTOR OF THE ECONOMY WAS GOING.

I'M SORRY YOU HAVE A VERY SHORT MEMORY AND DON'T REMEMBER THAT.

TED: ACTUALLY I DON'T HAVE A SHORT MEMORY.

FOUR YEARS AGO THE DOW WAS 18,000, NOW OVER 40,000.

FOUR YEARS AGO, UNEMPLOYMENT WAS 4.2%.

>> THE DOW IS REFLECTIVE OF HOW AFFORDABLE THINGS ARE.

I'M GLAD YOU ARE DOING OKAY AND AFFORDING FOOD AND RENT PRICES ARE OKAY AND YOU CAN AFFORD IT.

THE PEOPLE OUT THERE CAN'T AFFORD IT, TED, CAN'T AFFORD LIFE WITH THIS.

I WANT YOU TO KNOW AND I WANT THE PEOPLE TO KNOW, WE ARE GOING TO KEEP THE TRUMP TAX CUTS.

TED: YOU'RE GOING TO EXTEND THE TRUMP TAX CUTS.

>> WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THEM.

TED: EXTEND THEM.

>> TED, AND MY OPPONENT RUBEN GALLEGO, WANTS TO GET RID OF THEM.

EVERY ARIZONAN IT WILL COST YOU $2700 MORE A YEAR IF WE GET RID OF THEM.

TED WANTS TO GET RID OF THEM AND SO DOES MY OPPONENT.

I'M SORRY THEY FEEL THAT WAY.

I WANT YOU TO KNOW I WILL GO TO WASHINGTON, D.C., AND FIGHT TO KEEP AND EXTEND THE TRUMP TAX CUTS AND GO FURTHER.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAX YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY ANYMORE.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAX YOUR OVERTIME PAY, NOR WILL WE TAX YOUR TIPS.

WE ARE GOING TO FREE YOU UP TO SPEND THE MONEY YOU EARN AND THE MONEY YOU HAVE EARNED SO YOU CAN DO BETTER.

TED ISN'T FOR THAT AND MY OPPONENT RUBEN GALLEGO -- TED: PLEASE STOP SAYING THAT.

>> YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT -- TED: IT'S NOT OBVIOUS AT ALL.

PLEASE STOP SAYING THAT, IT'S NOT TRUE.

>> YOU ARE NOT FOR IT.

TED: IT'S NOT TRUE.

>> SO YOU ARE FOR IT.

ARE YOU?

TED: IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT I THINK.

>> YOU ARE MAKING THE ARGUMENT TO GET RID OF THEM.

TED: TRYING TO GET YOU TO EXPLAIN YOURSELF.

YOU BETTER BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN YOURSELF IF YOU WANT TO BE U.S.

SENATOR.

>> THANK YOU FOR LECTURING ME, TED.

>> WHERE DO YOU STAND ON ABORTION.

IN THE PAST IT SOUNDS LIKE YOUR POSITION IS DIFFERENT THAN IT IS NOW.

HAS IT CHANGED?

IT'S OKAY TO CHANGE.

BUT HAS IT CHANGED FROM THE PAST?

>> MY POSITION IS THAT I'M RUNNING FOR U.S. SENATE, AND THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE DECIDED IN THE U.S. SENATE.

YOU'RE GOING TO GET ONE VOTE ON ABORTION, I'M GOING TO GET ONE VOTE.

THE SUPREME COURT AS YOU KNOW, PUSHED THIS DECISION BACK TO THE STATES.

I KNOW YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT.

SO ALL 50 STATES ARE DECIDING WHAT THEIR LAW IS.

AND MY VOTE, I'LL HAVE ONE VOTE, YOU'LL HAVE ONE VOTE, WE'RE GOING TO DECIDE IN NOVEMBER WHAT OUR ABORTION LAW IS.

AS YOUR U.S.

SENATOR, I WILL RESPECT WHAT THE VOTERS OF ARIZONA DECIDE AND NOT VOTE -- MAY I FINISH BEFORE YOU START POINTING AT ME?

TED: PLEASE.

>> OR DO YOU WANT TO TALK AGAIN.

TED: I WANT TO ASK A QUESTION.

>> COULD I FINISH MY ANSWER.

WHEN I GET TO THE U.S. SENATE, I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR A NATIONAL BAN ON ABORTION.

I JUST WON'T.

TED: WOULD YOU VOTE ON FEDERAL MINIMUMS AS FAR AS ABORTION IS CONCERNED.

>> I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR A NATIONAL BAN ON ABORTION NOR WILL I VOTE TO SPEND A PENNY OF FEDERAL MONEY ON ABORTIONS.

TED: THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO ASK.

I WANT TO ASK THAT BECAUSE IN THE PAST YOU CALLED IT THE ULTIMATE SIN -- IN THIS STUDIO, YOU SAID YOU DON'T BELIEVE ABORTION PILLS SHOULD BE LEGAL.

YOU CALLED ON NEWS MAX, CALLED ON KILLING, THE SACRIFICE, THE EXECUTION OF BABIES IN THE WOMB OF THE MOTHER.

IF YOU'RE THAT STRONG AGAINST ABORTION, SHOULD YOU NOT BE FIGHTING FOR LEGISLATION THAT OUTLAWS ABORTION.

>> I BELIEVE, LIKE THE SUPREME COURT, SHOULD BE DECIDED IN THE STATE, AND I WANT THE PEOPLE OF ARIZONA TO DECIDE WHAT THE ABORTION LAW IS AND I WILL RESPECT THAT DECISION.

TED: OKAY, WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME HERE.

I GOT TO ASK YOU THIS.

AGAIN YOU'RE GOING TO THE WORLD'S MOST DELIBERATE BODY.

THAT'S YOUR GOAL, TO GO TO THE UNITED STATES SENATE, AND YOU HAVE A CONTENTIOUS STYLE.

YOU CULTVATED A CONTENTIOUS STYLE, YOU TRIED TO BE CONTENTIOUS WITH ME.

DO YOU THINK ARIZONANS WANT THAT TO REPRESENT THEM IN THE UPPER CHAMBER OF COMMERCE -- CONGRESS ON CAPITOL HILL.

IS THAT WHAT ARIZONANS WANT TO SEE FROM THEIR UNITED STATES SENATOR?

>> I AM NOT CONTENTIOUS, I'M IN A DEBATE WITH YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE DEBATING ME RIGHT NOW, RATHER THAN ASKING FAIR QUESTIONS.

I THINK YOU'RE PUSHING BACK, AND THAT'S WHY I'M TREATING YOU THIS WAY.

BUT I'M A FIGHTER FOR THE PEOPLE OF ARIZONA.

I'M ALSO SOMEBODY WHO CAN WORK FROM PEOPLE.

I COME FROM A FAMILY OF NINE, TED.

I AM THE YOUNGEST OF MINE.

BECAUSE HE CANNOT COMPROMISE AND BELLIGERENT WITH PEOPLE, HE WANTS TO GET RID OF THE FILIBUSTER.

DO YOU THINK THAT'S A SMART MOVE TO GET RID OF THE FILIBUSTER, TED?

TED: DOESN'T MATTER WHAT I THINK, KARI.

>> IT DOES MATTER WHAT YOU THINK.

TED: IT MATTERS WHAT YOU ARE DOING ON CAPITOL HILL, PLEASE LET ME KNOW AND I'LL JOIN YOU IN WASHINGTON AND WE'LL FIGURE SOMETHING OUT.

DOESN'T MATTER WHAT I THINK, MATTERS WHAT YOU THINK.

YOU SAY YOU WANT TO WORK WITH PEOPLE.

YOU CAN WORK WITH DEMOCRATS WHEN YOU BASICALLY SAID THAT THERE'S -- THEY HAVE A MARXIST CONSPIRACY AMONG DEMOCRATS TO HATE COUNTRY AND DESTROY AMERICA.

MITCH McCONNELL SAYS WHEN YOU ARE ON CAPITOL HILL, YOU GOT TO WORK WITH DEMOCRATS.

>> OF COURSE, I CAN WORK WITH DEMOCRATS.

LET ME REMIND YOU I WORKED IN THE MEDIA FOR 30 YEARS.

95% OF THE PEOPLE IN NEWS OPERATION ARE DEMOCRATS.

I WORKED WITH DEMOCRATS EVERY DAY.

OF COURSE, I CAN WORK WITH DEMOCRATS.

BUT THERE IS A LEVEL OF MARXISM BEING PUSHED, TED.

THEY'RE TRYING TO GET RID OF THE 1st AMENDMENT.

DO YOU AGREE WITH THE LEVEL OF CENSORSHIP THE DEMOCRATS ARE PUSHING FOR?

I HOPE YOU WOULDN'T BECAUSE YOUR JOB RELIES ON THE 1st AMENDMENT BEING STRONG, AND DEMOCRATS HAVE DECIDED IT'S OKAY TO CENSOR, OKAY TO TAKE THE 1st AMENDMENT RIGHTS OF PEOPLE IF THEY DON'T AGREE WITH PEOPLE, THAT THEY SHOULD BE CENSORED.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR CONSTITUTION IS SOLID AND PROTECTED, AND I'M GOING TO GET ON U.S. SENATE AND PROTECT THE U.S. CONSTITUTION FOR THE GOOD PEOPLE OF OUR STATE.

TED: OKAY, AND YOU'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH DEMOCRATS?

>> OF COURSE I AM.

I WORKED WITH DEMOCRATS MY WHOLE LIFE.

TED: SHOULD YOU NOT TALK ABOUT THEM AS BEING MARXIST?

>> WHEN YOU ARE PUSHING MARXIST IDEOLOGY, YOU SHOULD LABEL THAT AS WHAT IT IS.

I THINK WE'RE SEEING SOME OF THAT RIGHT NOW.

YOU TALK ABOUT SAVING DEMOCRACY.

THE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT SAVING DEMOCRACY HAVE A CANDIDATE AT THE TOP OF THE TICKET WHO HASN'T EARNED A SINGLE VOTE.

THEY WOULDN'T ALLOW OTHER DEMOCRATS WHEN THEY FORCED JOE BIDEN OUT WHO DID EARN 14 MILLION VOTES, WOULDN'T ALLOW A SINGLE DEMOCRAT TO COME IN AND VIE FOR THE POSITION OF NOMINEE.

THEY BESTOWED IT UPON KAMALA HARRIS.

I HOPE THAT YOU DON'T THINK THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S NOT DEMOCRACY.

TED: AGAIN, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT I THINK.

>> IS IT DEMOCRACY?

TED: I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND THIS WAS NOT A DEBATE.

THIS WAS ME ASKING YOU QUESTIONS TO EXPLAIN YOURSELF ISSUE ONES THAT ARIZONANS WANT TO HEAR.

>> AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

>> I HOPE YOU DO.

IN POLLING RIGHT NOW, REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT RUBEN GALLEGO, YOU'RE TRAILING IN MOST ALL OF THESE POLLS.

DONALD TRUMP IS WINNING IN A LOT OF THESE POLLS, AND I HAD A VIEWER ASK ME TO ASK YOU, WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS?

COULD IT BE THIS CONFRONTATIONAL STYLE THAT TURNS PEOPLE OFF?

>> WELL, I'M SORRY IF MY PERSONALITY TURNS YOU OFF, TED.

TED: IT'S NOT ME, IT'S NOT ME.

I'M ASKING FOR THE GENERAL ELECTION.

>> I'M GOING TO TELL YOU ABOUT THE POLLING.

I GET POLLING EVERY SINGLE DAY.

I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH POLLING.

MY OPPONENT SPENT $75,000 IN ATTACK ADDS AND IMAGE ADS TRYING TO MAKE HIM LOOK LIKE A CROSS OF MISTER ROGERS AND JI JOE.

THE FACT THAT 75 MILLION HAS BEEN SPENT AND THIS IS A NECK-AND-NECK MARGIN OF ERROR RACE WHICH IS WHAT THE REPUTABLE POLLING IS SHOWING, MY POLLING IS SHOWING ME UP.

I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH WHERE THE POLLING IS AND I THINK THAT PEOPLE -- MAYBE YOU DON'T BUT I THINK ARIZONANS LIKE ME AND RESPECT ME, AND I APPRECIATE ANYBODY OUT THERE WHO VOTES FOR ME AND APPRECIATE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR ME BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT RUBEN GALLEGO'S OPEN BORDER POLICIES ANYMORE.

THEY DON'T WANT THE INFLATION, DON'T WANT THE COST OF LIVING BEING OUT OF CONTROL AND CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO HAVE SOME OF THE OTHER RADICAL VOTES, LIKE BOYS PARTICIPATING IN SPORTS WITH GIRLS.

TED: WE'RE OUT OF TIME.

>> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE A FATHER BUT I'M APPALLED BY THAT.

TED: WE'RE OUT OF TIME.

ROBUST?

WAS IT ROBUST?

>> IT COULD HAVE BEEN A LITTLE FAIRER, TED.

TED: MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS, I'M SORRY YOU FEEL THAT WAY AND THANK YOU FOR COMING ON.

>> I APPRECIATE THE TIME AS WELL.

TED: THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND THAT IS IT FOR NOW.

I'M TED SIMONS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.