
Kazan Ibrahim
8/11/2023 | 27m 30sVideo has Closed Captions
Aaron Harber interviews Kazan Ibrahim. The Republic of Azerbaijan's Ambassador to the USA.
Aaron Harber interviews Kazan Ibrahim. The Republic of Azerbaijan's Ambassador to the USA.
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Kazan Ibrahim
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Aaron Harber interviews Kazan Ibrahim. The Republic of Azerbaijan's Ambassador to the USA.
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THE AMBASSADOR TO THE UNITED STATES.
MR.
AMBASSADOR THANK YOU FOR JOINING ME.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> ONE OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS WE CAN CONVEY IS INFORM PEOPLE ABOUT THE COUNTRY.
I'D REALLY BE INTERESTED WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE THE AMERICANS TO KNOW.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I DON'T THINK MANY PEOPLE KNOW TOO MUCH ABOUT MY COUNTRY.
THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS WHICH -- THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
FOR THE HUMANITY IN GENERAL.
I'LL GIVE YOU SOME SNAPSHOTS.
JUST TELL YOU SOMETHING.
WE ARE PREDOMINATELY A MUSLIM COUNTRY.
WE ARE AMONG THE MOST TOLERANT IN THE WORLD REGARDLESS OF THE REGION.
WHEN WE HAVE SECOND MOST ANCIENT JEWISH COMMUNITY IN THE WORLD.
LARGEST JEWISH COMMUNITY IN THE ENTIRE MUSLIM WORLD.
OUR CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY ARE SOME OF THE MOST ANCIENT.
NEVER HAD A DAY AMONG SECULAR -- OF COURSE IN OUR CONSTITUTION SEPARATION OF STATE AND CHURCH.
STATE AND CHURCH HAVE ALWAYS BEEN SEPARATED FROM EACH OTHER.
IMAGINE MY COUNTRY ESTABLISHED THE FIRST DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC IN 1918 AND GAVE FULL TO WOMEN BEFORE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
BUT IMAGINE IN 15th CENTURY WE ALREADY HAD OUR FIRST FEMALE AMBASSADOR.
RULER SENT HIS MOTHER AS AMBASSADOR TO EUROPE.
THESE ARE FACTS OF THE BACKGROUND OF THE FABRIC OF OUR SOCIETY.
AT THE SAME TIME IF YOU LOOK AT SOME PRACTICAL THINGS.
AMONG THE MAJOR ENERGY PRODUCING COMPANIES AROUND THE WORLD.
I WILL NOT TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH WE SUPPLY.
ONLY THING I WANT TO MENTION IS IT IS THE FIRST OIL PRODUCING COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.
SECOND CAME OIL CITY IN PENNSYLVANIA.
I FREQUENTLY TRAVEL THERE.
WE ESTABLISH THIS BOND WITH THEM.
IN THE EARLY 20 CENTURY PRODUCING MORE THAN HALF OF THE ENTIRE IN THE WORLD.
I SHOULD TELL YOU THAT IN 1991 AFTER COLLAPSE OF THE SOVIET "UNION, WE REGAINED OUR" INDEPENDENCE.
THIS IS VERY CRITICAL.
I THINK IT WILL BE INTERESTING FOR OUR VIEWERS.
I DON'T SAY DECLARE INDEPENDENCE.
WE ARE THE REPUBLIC OF THE REPUBLIC I MENTIONED IN 1918.
WE HAD DECORATION OF REESTABLISHMENT OVER REPUBLIC.
WE HAD 30 PLUS YEARS OF INDEPENDENCE AND WE FORGED VERY STRONG PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
>> IN 1918 THAT DEMOCRACY DIDN'T VERY LONG.
>> IT LASTED ONLY FOR 23 MONTHS.
WITHIN THESE 23 MONTHS AS I TOLD YOU SUFFRAGE TO WOMEN.
THEY ADOPTED SO MANY DOCUMENTS OF -- WE HAD THE BOOK OF RECORDS THAT WOULD BE THERE.
A LOT OF ESTABLISHMENT.
"UNFORTUNATELY, THEY OCCUPIED US."
>> THEN MOVE FORWARD TO 1991.
>> YES.
>> THE FALL OF BERLIN WALL IN 1999.
>> THEN YOU ARE COMING OUT ALL THESE HUGE EMPIRE.
A SMALL NATION IN A VERY INTERESTING NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU TRY TO FIND YOUR WAY.
AND ALSO WHAT MAKES US "DIFFERENT, I THINK, WE CHERISH" OUR INDEPENDENCE SO MUCH SOMETIMES WE GET UPSET.
WE NEVER WANT TO GIVE AN INCH OF IT TO ANYBODY ELSE.
WE WANT TO KEEP AND PROTECT OUR OWNERSHIP.
"SO SINCE 1991, WE TRIED TO SET" OUR ECONOMY STRONG.
WE TRIED TO DEVELOP OUR HUMAN CAPITAL.
WE TRIED TO ACCOMPLISH GOOD RELATIONS TO BE INTEGRATED TO NATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS.
I THINK WE DID PRETTY WELL.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT BY FOREIGNERS YOU CAN SEE TODAY WE ARE A SMALL NATION.
WE ARE THE SIZE OF THE STATE OF MAINE.
BUT NOW WE ARE ACTUALLY PRESIDING IN A MOVEMENT WHICH IS THE SECOND LARGEST STRUCTURE AFTER UNITED NATIONS WE ARE PROBABLY THE SMALLEST COUNTRY SEAT AT THE COUNCIL.
WE ARE THE COUNTRY THAT BECAME THE POINT ALL THE INTERCULTURAL "EVENTS, GLOBAL EVENTS TAKE" PLACE.
IMAGINE WE HAVE A HUNDRED OF CATHOLICS.
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF CATHOLICS BECAUSE IT IS A TOLERANT PLACE IT IS A ROLE MODEL FOR OTHERS.
I WAS SPEAKING AT THE SYNAGOGUE.
I HAD A BIG DELEGATION COMPRISED OF EVERY RELIGION.
THEY MET EVERYBODY.
THEY HAD SPEECHES ON THE "SYNAGOGUE, MOSQUES, CHURCHES," EVERYWHERE.
WE PROTECTED WHAT WE HAVE.
AT THE SAME TIME WE MOVE FORWARD.
WHEN WE CAME OUT AND DESTROYED THE SOVIET UNION.
BASICALLY TEN TIMES LARGER OUR ENTIRE DEBT WHICH MAKES US VERY STRONG.
SO MANY TOP OFFICIALS PRAISED TO BE IN A STRONG POSITION.
OUR ARMED FORCES ARE VERY ADAPTIVE AND MODERN.
WE HAVE TROOPS SERVE SHOULDER TO SHOULDER WITH THOSE OF THE "UNITED STATES IN IRAQ, IN" KOSOVO.
OUR TROOPS WERE THE LAST TO LEAVE TOGETHER WITH THE UNITED STATES.
>> IN TERMS OF THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT YOU HAVE WITH ITS NEIGHBORS.
"OBVIOUSLY TURKEY, RUSSIA," GEORGIA A HISTORICAL RELATIONSHIP NOT ALWAYS POSITIVE WITH ARMENIA AS WELL.
GIVE US A SENSE WHERE THOSE RELATIONSHIPS ARE GOING?
ESPECIALLY IN TURKEY.
">> YES, THAT IS REALLY" INTERESTING.
"IN FACT, IN OUR FOREIGN POLICY" DOCTRINE GOOD NEIGHBOR RELATIONSHIPS IS OUR PRIORITY.
IT IS OUR GOAL TO HAVE GOOD RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR NEIGHBORS.
"AT LARGE, WE MANAGE TO HAVE IT."
AT SOME POINTS EXCELLENT RELATIONS.
IT DEPENDS ON SOME PERIOD OF TIME.
"WELL, TURKEY WHICH IS -- WE CALL" "EACH OTHER ACTUALLY ONE NATION," TWO STATES BECAUSE WE ARE SO "CLOSE ETHNICALLY, CULTURALLY."
THEREFORE WE WALK TOGETHER IN OUR FOREIGN POLICY GOALS GO ON MANY INTERNATIONAL ISSUES.
I WAS AMBASSADOR TO TURKEY BEFORE COMES TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
AMBASSADOR IS NATURALLY FOREIGN.
IN TURKEY I WAS HOME.
MEMBER OF PARLIAMENT.
EVERY DOORS WERE OPEN TO ME.
WE WORKED A LOT WITH TURKEY.
DURING THE PANDEMIC WE HAD THE LARGEST REFINERY IN TURKEY.
THERE WAS A NEED FOR SOME PRODUCT TO DEVELOP.
"TO HELP, TO FIGHT COVID-19."
OUR REFINERY IMMEDIATELY ADAPTED AND HELPED OUR TURKISH BROTHERS.
AFTER THIS TERRIBLE EARTHQUAKES.
WE DIDN'T EVEN WAIT.
WE GO TO OUR FRIEND'S BROTHERS AND SISTERS WOULD DISPATCH OUR HELP NEXT TO OUR TURKISH BROTHERS.
WE ALSO HAVE OPERATIONS HELPING TURKEY BUT ALSO EUROPE AND THE WORLD.
"FOR EXAMPLE, ENERGY PROJECTS."
SO THE MAJOR OIL AND GAS PIPELINE GO FROM ANOTHER GOOD "NEIGHBOR, GEORGIA TO TURKEY AND" THEN TO EUROPE.
THAT HELPS TO ENSURE EUROPEAN SECURITY.
WE BUILD A RAILROAD WHICH LINKS ASIAN TO EUROPE.
"NOW, IN FACT, WE ARE BUILDING A" VERY UNIQUE UNDERSEA CABLE WHICH WILL BRING RENEWABLE ENERGY RESOURCES AS ELECTRICITY TO EUROPEAN MARKET.
"WE ARE DOING IT WITH GEORGIA," WITH ROMANIA AND WITH OTHER COUNTRIES.
WE BELIEVE THAT NEIGHBORS -- BECAUSE CANNOT ESCAPE EACH OTHER.
GEOGRAPHY IS CONSTANT.
>> TALK ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS WITH NATO AND WHERE THE COUNTRY IS.
ITS INVOLVEMENT AS A PARTNER AND ALSO WHERE YOU MAY WANT TO GO.
>> I WAS ALSO AMBASSADOR TO NATO BEFORE BEING AMBASSADOR TO TURKEY.
WE JOINED NATO IN SEVERAL STRUCTURES.
SO FIRST ATLANTIC OPERATION COUNCIL THEN IT WAS PARTNERSHIP FOR PEACE.
WE JOINED THAT ONE.
WE HAVE INDIVIDUAL PARTNERSHIP ACTION PLAN WHICH IS INDIVIDUAL BY NAME AND BY NATURE WHICH HAS A STRUCTURE THROUGH WHICH WE ARE HAVING A GOALS AND ACTION PLAN TO WORK WITH NATO.
"WHERE WE ARE, WE HAVE VERY" STRONG CORPORATION ON PEACEKEEPING.
"MANY PEOPLE FORGET, WHEN THEY" HEAR ABOUT NATO.
THEY BELIEVE IT IS ALL ABOUT "MILITARY, IT IS ALL ABOUT WARS," "IT IS ALL ABOUT ARMED FORCES, IT" IS NOT.
WE HAVE STRONG PUBLIC DIPLOMACY.
IT IS TRYING TO EDUCATE PEOPLE.
WE ARE TRYING TO EDUCATE "AMERICAN PEOPLE ABOUT MY REGION," "ABOUT MY COUNTRY, ABOUT MY" PEOPLE.
WE ARE TRYING TO EDUCATE PEOPLE ABOUT NATO AND WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT.
WHAT WE TELL PEOPLE WE ARE A HUGE.
DURING 30 YEARS THEY PLANTED SO MANY LAND MINES AND WE ARE LOSING CIVILIANS EVERY DAY.
"WHEN WE TELL OUR PEOPLE, THAT" OUR MINE AGENT SI PEOPLE ARE GETTING VERY SURPRISED.
THAT HELPS TO EDUCATE ABOUT NATO.
WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE THIS IN EVERY AREA WHICH IS POSSIBLE.
BUT IN ORDER TO HAVE GOOD "RELATIONS, NOT ONLY WITH NATO," BUT ANY INTERNATIONAL "ORGANIZATION, IT IS EXTREMELY" IMPORTANT.
BECAUSE WE HAVE GOOD RELATIONS WITH ALL NATO MEMBERS THAT HELPS US TO HAVE GOOD RELATIONS WITH NATO.
>> DO THEY WANT TO BECOME A FULL MEMBER?
>> NO.
>> WHY NOT?
>> WHY SHOULD WE?
IF YOU LOOK AT OUR REGION WE ARE THREE COUNTRIES.
ARMENIA IS OFFICIALLY PART OF COLLECTIVE SECURITY LED BY RUSSIA.
IT HOLDS TWO HUGE MILITARY BASIS IN ARMENIA.
AND RUSSIA BORDER SERVICES PROTECT ARMENIA.
GEORGIA WANTS TO BE MEMBER OF NATO.
WE BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD RELY ON OURSELVES.
OUR APPROACH -- SO FOR OUR DEFENSE WE SHOULD DEVELOP OUR COUNTRY.
AND IT IS NOT ONLY ABOUT ARMED "FORCES, IT IS ABOUT OUR PEOPLE," IT IS ABOUT OUR ECONOMY.
IT IS ABOUT OUR SOCIAL WELL-BEING.
IT IS ABOUT EVERYTHING.
I'LL GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE.
WE ACCUMULATED SOME REVENUES.
MY PRESIDENT ISSUED A DECREE GIVING FULL SCHOLARSHIP TO THE BRIGHTEST ANNUALLY.
"YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE FIRST TWO" SENTENCES OF THIS DECREE.
THEY START WITH THE WORDS WE SAY.
THE GOAL OF THE PROGRAM IS TO "CONVERT, TO CONVERT BLACK GOLD" WHICH WE CALL OIL INTO HUMAN CAPITOL.
THIS IS HOW WE SEE OUR SECURITY.
THIS IS WHERE WE SEE OUR WELL-BEING.
>> MY ASSUMPTION MAINLY FUNDED BY REVENUES.
>> IT IS A COAL STATE OIL FUND.
">> LOOKING AHEAD, PROJECTING IN" "TERMS OF REVENUE AND RESOURCES," WHAT IS THE COUNTRY DOING IN TERMS OF PLANNING LONG-TERM ON THE ASSUMPTION THOSE RESOURCES ULTIMATELY WILL NOT LAST FOREVER.
>> AARON THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.
WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
WE ARE ABOUT RENEWABLES.
WHAT WE ARE DOING IT IN A SMART WAY.
IT IS IMPORTANT.
FOR TRANSITION NATURAL GAS IS IMPORTANT.
HAS A LOT OF RENEWABLE POTENTIAL.
WE HAVE ALMOST 200 GIG GA WATTS OF SOLAR.
WE HAVE A LOT OF SOLA AND WIND.
NOW WE ALREADY STARTED WORKING "WITH COMPANIES, WITH GLOBAL" COMPANIES AND 25 OF THAT IS ALREADY TAKEN BY THE COMPANIES.
THERE IS A LOT OF DEMAND.
EVERY YEAR IT IS INCREASING.
AS I MENTIONED ABOUT THE CABLE THAT WILL GO UNDER SEA.
THAT WILL PRODUCED BY RENEWABLES.
CAN YOU IMAGINE THAT?
WE ARE TRANSITIONING TO HAVE ALTERNATIVES TO HAVE MORE CAPACITY BUT AT THE SAME TIME IT IS GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY.
IT IS CLEAN.
WE HAVE OUR OWN COMMITMENTS AND GOALS.
AT THE SAME TIME WHAT WE ARE "DOING, BECAUSE IT IS ABSOLUTELY" DEVASTATING.
IT IS NOT ONLY LAND MINES.
IT IS DESTROYED.
WHAT WE ARE DOING WHEN WE ARE "REBUILDING THAT, WE ARE BUILDING" SMART -- WHICH ARE 100% SELF-SUSTAINABLE.
WE STARTED THAT PROGRAM.
IN ORDER TO BE SUCCESSFUL EVERY NATION NEED SKILLED PEOPLE.
SO THAT'S WHY I MENTIONED ABOUT THE STATE PROGRAM.
IN ORDER TO HAVE THIS TRANSITION AND HAVE DEVELOPMENT IN OTHER AREAS WE WANT PEOPLE TRAINED IN BEST SCHOOLS.
IN ORDER TO HAVE SUCCESSFUL IMPLEMENTATIONS OF THE CLASS WE HAVE.
>> WE ONLY HAVE A FEW MINUTES LEFT.
HOW IS YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH OKLAHOMA?
>> IT IS UNBELIEVABLE.
IT IS SURPRISING.
I NEVER THOUGHT THAT I PERSONALLY AND MANY PEOPLE WOULD CLICK SO FAST WITH OKLAHOMANS.
IT IS NOT BECAUSE -- IT IS STATE PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM WHICH STARTED WITH OKLAHOMA NATIONAL GUARD.
IT IS CALM.
"THROUGH INVESTMENT, IT IS" "BUSINESS CONNECTIONS, IT IS" TRIPS AND EVERYTHING.
WHEN I GO TO OKLAHOMA I FEEL HOME.
I KNOW THE SAME FOR OKLAHOMA PEOPLE.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT PEOPLE "OF OKLAHOMA, THE GOVERNOR, THE" PEOPLE FROM NATIONAL GUARD THEY EMBRACED US SO MUCH.
I THINK THAT SHOWS THE VALUE WE SHARE.
IT IS ALL ABOUT PEOPLE AT THE END OF THE DAY.
I SEE THE PEOPLE IN OKLAHOMA SHARE THE SAME VALUES AND THE SAME WORK.
>> WITH THE WAR IN UKRAINE HAVING HAD SUCH A HUGE IMPACT ON SUPPLY CHAIN.
WHAT DO YOU THINK SOME OF THE IMPACTS NOT JUST -- THE REGION IN PARTICULAR.
WHAT DO YOU THINK SOME OF THOSE LONGER IMPACTS GOING TO BE?
>> I DON'T THINK NO ONE CAN SAY FOR SURE WHAT WE WILL HAVE IN TEN YEARS.
WHO EXPECTED TO HAVE COVID-19.
NOW IT IS -- IF 100 YEARS AGO IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN DECADES TO HAVE COMPLETE CHANGE IN TECH TECHNOLOGIES.
IN 10 YEARS TECHNOLOGIES ARE NEW.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN.
I HOPE -- I CAN ONLY HOPE AS A DIPLOMAT WE HAVE PEACE.
WE ARE TRYING TO PUT OUR EFFORTS TO HAVE PEACE.
DIPLOMATICALLY THE BEST WAY TO ENSURE PEACE AND STABILITY IN THE WORLD IS ALWAYS TAKE INTERNATIONAL LOOK AS A BENCHMARK.
IF WE SEE THINK ON INTERNATIONAL STANDARDS REGARDLESS OF YOUR "SIZE, REGARDLESS OF YOUR" "MEMBERSHIP, THEN WE WILL HAVE" PEACEFUL WORLD.
YOU TRY TO DO SOMETHING ELSE SOMEWHERE ELSE IT IS NOT GOING TO HELP.
WE WILL HAVE A MESS INTERNATIONALLY.
">> FINAL WORD, WHAT KEY POINT" WOULD YOU LIKE VIEWERS TO COME AWAY FROM THIS?
>> WE ARE FRIENDS.
UNITED STATES WAS CRITICAL IN HELPING CONSOLIDATING IT'S INDEPENDENCE.
PEOPLE THERE ARE APPRECIATE AND PEOPLE RESEEP KATED ON ALL THE RIGHT CAUSES.
>> MR.
AMBASSADOR THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU.
>> I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MY GUESS WHO IS THE REPUBLIC AMBASSADOR TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
I'M AARON HARBOR THANKS FOR WATCHING.
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