♪♪ MUSIC PLAYING ♪♪ >> COMING UP NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON" DETAILS ON THE DEFENSE DEPARTMENT'S PUSH TO PENALIZE SENATOR MARK KELLY FOR WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION CALLS SEDITIOUS BEHAVIOR.

>> ALSO WE'LL HEAR FROM EDUCATION AT AD VELOCITY CATS ON LOOKING FOR.

AND A PROGRAM LOOKS TO EVALUATE THE COGNITIVE HEALTH OF THE HOMELESS AND UNHOUSED.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON."

>> "ARIZONA HORIZON" IS MADE POSSIBLE BY CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THE FRIENDS OF ARIZONA PBS.

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>> GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO "ARIZONA HORIZON."

I AM TED SIMONS.

AND IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT OFFICER SHOT AND KILLED A DRIVER IN MINNEAPOLIS TODAY.

THE 37-YEAR-OLD WOMAN WAS SHOT NO FRONT OF A FAMILY MEMBER DURING A SCRATCHING STOP.

THIS VIDEO APPEARS TO SHOW THE AGENT BUMPED AS THE CAR WAS TURNING TO DRIVE WAY.

PRESIDENT TRUMP AND FEDERAL OFFICIALS SAY THAT THE WOMAN WAS WEAPONIZING HER CAR AND WAS SHOT IN SELF-DEFENSE.

EYEWITNESSES SAY OTHERWISE.

>> IT DID NOT APPEAR AGGRESSIVE TO ME.

I THINK THAT IF THEY FELT LIKE THEY WERE IN DANGER THEY COULD HAVE STEPPED TWO FEET BACK WARDS.

I THINK THIS MY OPINION, THAT THIS WAS AN UNNECESSARY USE OF FORCE AND A REACTION TO IMAGINED DANGER.

>> I CAN'T SHARE ALL THE INFORMATION THAT I KNOW, BUT WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT THE ICE AGENT THAT SHOT SOMEBODY SHOULD BE AFFECTED EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY.

>> THE GOVERNOR OF MINNESOTA AND THE MAYOR OF MINNEAPOLIS WERE BLUNT IN THEIR ASSESSMENTS OF THE SHOOTING.

AND ICE'S PRESENCE IN THE CITY.

>> WE HAVE BEEN WARNING FOR WEEKS THAT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION'S DANGEROUS SEN SANCTION THIZED OPERATIONS ARE A THREATS TO OUR PUBLIC SAFETY THAT SOMEONE WOULD GET HURT.

JUST YESTERDAY I SAID EXACTLY THAT.

WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS THE CONSEQUENCES OF GOVERNANCE DESIGNED TO GENERATE FEAR, HEADLINES AND CONFLICT.

IT'S GOVERNING BY REALITY TV.

AND TODAY THAT RECKLESSNESS COST SOMEONE THEIR LIFE.

>> WE HAVE DREADED THIS MOMENT SINCE THE EARLY STAGES OF THIS ICE PRESENCE IN MINNEAPOLIS.

NOT ONLY IS THIS A CONCERN THAT WE HAVE HAD INTERNALLY, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT.

THEY ARE NOT HERE TO CAUSE SAFETY IN THE CITY.

WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS NOT TO PROVIDE SAFETY IN AMERICA.

WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS CAUSING CHAOS AND DISTRUST.

THEY ARE RIPPING FAMILIES APART, THEY ARE SEWING SAY AS IN OUR STREETS AND IN THIS CASE, QUITE LITERALLY KILLING PEOPLE.

>> TODAY'S SHOOTING CAUGHT THE ATTENTION ON ARIZONA SENATOR MARK KELLY WHO APPEARED THIS AFTERNOON ON CNN.

>> THERE IS SOME INDICATION RIGHT NOW THE NEXT CITY THAT THEY ARE GOING TO -- I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY TARGET IS PHOENIX ARIZONA WHERE MY CONSTITUENTS LIVE.

I AM SERIOUSLY CONCERNED ABOUT THEM GOING IN THERE AND TERRORIZING COMMUNITIES AND -- THAT DON'T BENEFIT.

>> THE NEW YORK TIMES REPORTS THAT IN THE PAST FIVE MONTHS IMMIGRATION OFFICERS HAVE FIRED ON AT LEAST NINE PEOPLE IN FIVE STATES AND WASHINGTON, D.C.

THE SHOOTINGS ALL INVOLVED VEHICLES.

IN EACH CASE THE OFFICERS SAY THE AGENTS FIRED IN SELF-DEFENSE, FEARING THEY WOULD BE STRUCK BY THE VEHICLE.

>> THE MOVE BY U.S.

DEFENSE SECRETARY PETE HEGSETH SO PUNISH ARIZONA SENATOR MARKEL FOR REMINDING MILITARY SERVICE PERSONNEL THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE ILLEGAL ORDERS THAT MUCH MOVE BY HEGSETH RAISES QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LEGALITY OF THE DEFENSE SECRETARY'S ACTIONS AND FOR MORE ON THAT, WE WELCOME FRANK ROSENBLATT A RETIRED ARMY JAG LIEUTENANT COLONEL SERVING AS PRESIDENT OF THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF MILITARY JUSTICE, ALSO A PROFESSOR AT THE MISSISSIPPI COLLEGE SCHOOL OF LAW.

IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

WHAT EXACTLY DID THE DEFENSE SECRETARY SAY REGARDING SENATOR KELLY?

>> AS HAS BEEN EXPECTED FOR A MONTH.

HE GAVE A STATEMENT ON "X" SAYING THE RECKLESS AND SEDITIOUS BEHAVIOR OF SENATOR KELLY WOULD RESULT IN A CENSURE AND BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS TO DETERMINE WHETHER HE SHOULD BE REDUCED IN GRADE FROM RETIREMENT CAPTAIN KELLY R.HIS GRADE OF O SIX AND RECEIVES RETIREMENT FOR HIS 25 YEARS.

AND SO THIS WOULD BE AN ATTEMPT TO MOVE HIM DOWN ONE GRADE.

>> THIS IS WHAT THE DEFENSE SECRETARY AND THE PENTAGON MEAN BY ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION, CORRECT?

>> YES.

THE CENSURE IN ITSELF, HE WAS ISSUED A CENSURE MEMORANDUM.

FOR THOSE ON ACTIVE DUTY, THAT CAN BE A CAREER KILLER.

AND IN THE CASE OF A RETIRED OFFICER, IT REALLY COUNTRY MEAN ANYTHING.

BUT THERE IS NOW GOING TO BE THIS PROCESS TO DETERMINE WHETHER HE SHOULD BE REDUCED IN GRADE.

>> AND THE DEFENSE SECRETARY SAID -- SENATOR KELLY CONDUCT BRIDGE ADDITIONAL TO GOOD ORDER AND DISCIPLINE, ACCUSED HIM, HEGSETH AND, OTHERS OF WAR CRIMES AND SURROUNDING HIMSELF WITH YES MEN.

IS THIS THE KIND OF THING THAT A UNITED STATES SENATOR WHO HAPPENS TO BE RETIRED MILITARY CAN'T SAY?

>> JUST ABOUT ANYONE WHO KNOWS MILITARY LAW, NO MATTER WHAT THEIR POLITICAL SPECTRUM, WOULD SAY THAT THIS IS AN OVERREACH.

MANY WOULD SAY THIS IS RIDICULOUS.

I CALCULATED 0.0% CHANCE OF SUCCESS ON THE MERITS OF REDUCING HIM IN GRADE IN RETIREMENT.

EVEN IF HE WERE IN THE MILITARY THE 133 AND ONE THEIR FOUR, THESE ARE WHAT WE CALL THE VAGUE ARTICLES CONDUCT UNBECOMING AN OFFICER, CONDUCT TO THE PREJUDICE OF GOOD ORDER AND DISCIPLINE, EVEN FOR AN ACTIVE DUTY MEMBER, THESE WOULDN'T HAVE REALLY HELD WATER.

AND FOR A RETIREE, MUCH LESS A SENATOR, WHOSE JOB IS OVERSIGHT OF THE DEFENSE DEPARTMENT, THESE JUST REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY MERIT TO THEM.

>> WITH THAT IN MIND, KELLY SAID THAT HE WIT FIGHT WITH EVERYTHING I'VE GOT.

WHAT'S HE GOT?

>> WELL, THAT REMAINS TO BE SEEN.

THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE, HEGSETH, ANNOUNCED THAT THE NAVY WOULD COME UP WITH A PROCESS TO LOOK AT A BOARD AND THAT SENATOR KELLY WOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO RESPOND WITHIN 30 DAYS.

SENATOR KELLY HAS AN ELITE TEAM OF LAWYERS WITH THE ARNOLD & PORTER LAW FIRM.

THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

THEY ARE GOING TO FIGHT NOT REALLY THIS ISN'T ABOUT THE FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS IN RETIREMENT, I THINK THAT SENATOR KELLY RECOGNIZES THAT THESE ARE LARGEST PRINCIPLES HERE ABOUT THE SEPARATION OF POWERS BETWEEN THE SENATE'S ABILITY TO CONDUCT OVERSIGHT OF THE DEFENSE DEPARTMENT.

AND I'LL JUST SAY, WHAT REALLY SURPRISED ME ABOUT THE SECRETARY'S ANNOUNCEMENT, THOSE OF US WATCHING THIS, WE THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE ABOUT THE VIDEO OF THE SIX MEMBERS AND WHAT THEY SAID.

AND ACTUALLY, IN THE CENSURE LETTER, WHAT SECRETARY HEGSETH SAID, IS HE WASN'T VERY HAPPY ABOUT SENATOR KELLY'S STATEMENTS FROM JUNE 2025 TO DECEMBER 2025.

IN OTHER WORDS, HE'S JUST NOT HAPPY THAT SENATOR KELLY HAS BEEN CONDUCTING OVERSIGHT OVER THE DEFENSE DEPARTMENT.

>> INDEED.

THAT'S THE PART WHERE HE SAID SURROUNDING HIMSELF WITH YES MEN AND ACCUSING ME AND OTHERS OF WAR CRIMES.

HE'S A UNITED STATES SENATOR, IT WOULD SEEM AS NO THAT KIND OF VERBIAGE WOULD NOT BE THAT UNUSUAL FROM THE SENATE FLOOR OR ANYWHERE ON CAPITOL HILL.

>> AND WE CAN CERTAINLY SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THE SENATE HAS AN IMPORTANT ROLE.

MUCH OF WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE FIRST YEAR OF THE SECOND TRUMP ADMINISTRATION HAS REALLY BEEN BOUNDARY PUSHING.

AND SO MILITARY MEMBERS, THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE QUESTIONS WHEN THEY ARE TOLD TO DO THINGS THAT ARE VERY DIFFERENT THAN HOW THEY HAVE OPERATED OTHERWISE.

SO THERE ARE QUESTIONS OUT THERE ABOUT ORDERS, WE WANT OUR MILITARY MEMBERS TO BE EMBOLDENED AND CONFIDENT AND WHEN THEY ARE ASKED TO DO THINGS THAT THEY HAVE SOME SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT, THAT ULTIMATELY IS A QUESTION OF OUR MILITARY EFFECTIVENESS.

>> HEGSETH ALSO WARNED OF FURTHER ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION.

HE WARNED OF CRIMINAL PROSECUTION.

CRIMINAL PROSECUTION FOR WHAT, WOULD YOU IMAGINE?

>> THAT WAS A THREAT.

THIS HAS NO MERIT.

IF THERE WAS ANY MERIT TO THIS, THEN WE WOULD HAVE SEEN AN ANNOUNCEMENT OF COURT MARTIAL CHARGES AND NOT THIS MORE MINOR CENSURE AND ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS.

>> AGAIN, IS IT ILLEGAL TO REMIND THE MILITARY THAT THEY CAN AND SHOULD DISOBEY ILLEGAL ORDERS?

IS THAT IN SOME WAY ILLEGAL, IN SOME WAY DISRUPTIVE TO NATIONAL SECURITY AND DEFENSE?

>> I THINK THERE IS SOME HURT FEELINGS OVER THIS BUT IT'S NOT A VIOLATION OF THE UNIFORM CODE.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I HAVE DONE AND MANY OTHERS HAVE DONE.

AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE NATIONAL SECURITY CONVERSATION IN OUR COUNTRY.

IF WE CAN DRAW MORE ATTENTION TO WHAT THE RULES ACTUALLY ARE FOR MILITARY OBEDIENCE AND ORDERS, THESE ARE IMPORTANT ISSUES AND I THINK THAT THE COUNTRY HAS BEEN ENGAGED IN A FRUITFUL CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW THIS FITS WITH IN SOME OF THE RECENT MILITARY ACTIONS.

>> LAST QUESTION AND, WE DO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME HERE.

COULD KELLY BE ORDERED BACK INTO ACTIVE DUTY AND SUMMARILY FACE A COURT MARTIAL?

I HAVE HEARD THAT POSSIBILITY FLOATED AROUND THERE.

IS THAT VIABLE?

>> I THINK THAT, WHILE THIS ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS, I THINK SHOWS THAT SECRETARY HEGSETH WAS VERY POORLY ADVISED.

I THINK THAT WHOEVER WAS ADVISING HIM, DID RECOGNIZE THAT THERE WOULD REALLY BE SOME SUBSTANTIAL PROBLEMS DOING THAT.

TO PULL HIM OUT BACK TO ACTIVE DUTY WOULD PUMP HIM AWAY FROM HIS DUTY AS IS THE TONE THIS IS NOT A POSSIBILITY FOR WHAT IS AT STAKE A SPEECH AS A SENSOR WHO IS A MILITARY RETIREE.

>> INTERESTING.

LIEUTENANT COLONEL FRANK ROSENBLATT TALKING ABOUT SENATOR MARK KELLY AND DEFENSE SECRETARY PETE LEG SET GROWTH AT IT.

SIR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU, TED.

>> AHH, THE%.

VILLAGES OF MIDSUMMER, HOST LOVELY PARTIES, FRIENDLY NEIGHBORS.

AND.

>> BEING HERD MURDERED.

>> DEAD BODIES.

>> A SURPRISING CONSEQUENCE OF DEAD PEOPLE IN THERE.

>> BUT TOM BARNABY IS ON THE CASE.

>> OH, I SEE.

>> AND HE HAS A NEW PARTNER.

>> GOOD TIMES.

THE.

>> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> GREAT.

>> THE FIENDISHLY CLEVER SERIES.

>> STOP.

PLEASE.

>> "MIDSUMMER MURDERS."

THURSDAY NIGHT AT 8:00 ON ARIZONA PBS.

>> NOTHING LIKE THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR HAD BEEN FOUGHT.

IT'S A RADICAL IDEA.

>> ORDINARY AMERICANS WON THE WAR.

I DON'T THINK YOU CAN BE PATRIOTIC ENOUGH ABOUT THAT.

>> THE VIRTUE OF THE CAUSE, HELPING THEM WIN.

♪♪ MUSIC PLAYING ♪♪ >> FRIDAY NIGHT AT 8:00 ON ARIZONA PBS.

♪♪ MUSIC PLAYING ♪♪ ♪♪ MUSIC PLAYING ♪♪ ♪♪ MUSIC PLAYING ♪♪ >> WE ARE HEARING FROM ADVOCATES OF VARIOUS ISSUES THIS WEEK TO LEARN ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR FROM THE STATE LEGISLATURE THIS UPCOMING SESSION.

WE HAVE HEARD FROM BUSINESS INTERESTS AND PUBLIC HEALTH ADVOCATES AND TONIGHT THE FOCUS IS ON EDUCATION.

JOINING US IS MAYOR SAL GARCIA PRESIDENT OF THE ARIZONA EDUCATIONAL ASSOCIATION.

GOOD TO HAVE YOU BACK.

>> THANK YOU.

>> GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

EDUCATION PRIORITIES FOR THE LEGISLATURE, WHAT DOCUMENT TO SEE?

>> FUNDING.

WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT FUNDING.

WE ARE LOSING TEACHERS AT A DRASTIC RATE AT THIS POINT.

WE ALWAYS WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE VOUCHERS AND THE FACT THAT THEY ARE CRIPPLES OUR BUDGET.

AND THEN WE REALLY WANT TO HAVE GOOD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW DO WE KEEP TEACHERS IN THEIR POSITIONS.

IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT PAYING FOR THEM, BUT WHAT LEARNING CONDITIONS CAN BE CREATED.

>> I WANT TO GET TO ALL OF THOSE IN A SECOND HERE.

BUT THE IMPACT OF A TIGHT BUDGET THIS GO AROUND ON WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE AND WHAT YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE.

>> WE CAN'T SEE ANYMORE CUTS TO PUBLIC EDUCATION, WE HAVE DEALT WITH A STEADY STREAM OF KEEPING US HOLD AND IT'S DIFFICULT TO KEEP.

AND WE WANT TO KEEP US THERE.

>> PROP 123 NOT EXTENDED.

WHY WASN'T IT EXTENDED?

WHAT WAS GOING ON?

>> THAT MET THE END SPECIAL INTEREST GOT INVOLVED AND DERAILED REALLY GREAT CONVERSATIONS THAT WERE HAPPENING.

AND SPECIAL INTEREST GOT INVOLVED AND DECIDED THEY WANTED TO CHANGE EVERYTHING THAT WE HAD WORKED ON.

>> TAKING -- LIKE GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE HERE?

>> THEY WANTED TO CONSTITUTION LIES VOUCHERS.

AND THEY WANTED TO MAKE IT SO THAT THE VOTERS WOULD SAY, YES, WE WANT TO GIVE RAISES TO TEACHERS, BUT WE ALSO ARE GOING TO PIGGYBACK THAT WITH CONSTITUTIONAL ICING VOUCHERS INTO OUR CONSTITUTION.

>> ARE YOU COMFORTABLE, THOUGH, TAKING MORE MONEY, OUT OF THE CORPUS, THE STATE LAND TRUST THERE, WHICH WOULD BE USED AGAIN FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES?

THERE IS ALWAYS A CONCERN WITH THAT.

ARE YOU CONCERNED WITH THAT?

>> YOU KNOW, AT THIS POINT WE REALLY JUST NEED TO HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS.

LET'S DATA IT OUT.

LET'S LOOK AT PERSONALS.

LONG-TERM.

WE HAVE SEEN SUCCESS WITH PROPOSITION 123.

>> AND THERE IS A CONCERN AND DIVIDE BETWEEN WHERE THE MONEY SHOULD GO, TEACHERS ONLY OR TEACHERS AND SUPPORT STAFF.

>> YEAH.

>> WHERE DO YOU STAND?

>> EVERY STAFF MEMBER IF HE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO US.

THOSE NO WAY I COULD DO MY JOB IF I DON'T HAVE PEOPLE QUALIFIED TO HELP ME DO IT.

>> THE EXTENSION IS ANOTHER 10 YEARS?

>> SOMETHING WE CAN TALK ABOUT.

WE ARE READY FOR ANYTHING TO BE ON THE TABLE TO DISCUSS, WHETHER IT'S FOREVER, 10 YEARS, 20 YEARS.

>> IF IT'S TEACHERS ONLY AND THE SUPPORT STAFF IS NOT INCLUDED IS THAT DEAD ON ARRIVAL?

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THAT DEAD ON ARRIVAL OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU WANT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING.

>> FOR US WE HAVE TO HAVE THESE HOLISTIC CONVERSATIONS ON HOW TO FIX PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND THE FUNDING MECHANISMS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.

WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IS FOR EACH DISTRICT TO DECIDE AND WE DON'T KNOW WHY WE NEED TO VEER FROM THAT.

>> INTERESTING.

ALL RIGHT.

EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION, WHAT YOU LOOKING AT?

>> OH, WE LOVE IT.

WE WISH THAT THE STATE WOULD COMMIT TO EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION, BUT EVEN MORE SO HAVE FULLY FUNDED KINDERGARTEN.

WE CONTINUE HAVE THAT IN THIS STATE ONE OF THE FEW STATES IN THE COUNTRY THAT DOESN'T FULLY FUND KINDERGARTEN.

>> FULLY FUND KINDERGARTEN AT WELL.

PRESCHOOL?

>> OF COURSE OF COURSE EVERY DATA SET THAT EARLIER ON THE LITERACY RATES, EXPLORING RATES, EVERYTHING GOES UP.

>> CAN IT BE DONE, CAN IT GO UP AT A TIME WHEN THE BUDGET IS GOING TO BE, REALLY SQUEAKY?

>> I MEAN WE HEAR ABOUT OTHER TAX CUTS THAT THE MAJORITY PARTY IS HAVING TAX CUTS WHY SHOULD WE NOT TALK ABOUT WHERE TO INVEST TO MAKE THE COMMUNITY STRONGER.

>> YOU REFERRED TO THE TEACHER TRAINING, TEACHER RECRUITING, TEACHER PAY.

JUST KEEPING THEM THERE, TEACHER RETENTION.

>> UH-HUH.

>> AGAIN, WHAT KIND OF MONEY ARE YOU LACKING AT?

WHAT WOULD NEED TO HAPPEN?

AND CAN IT BE SOMETHING MORE THAN MONEY?

>> YEAH.

I MEAN, EVERYTHING HAS TO BE INCLUDED.

SO WE LOOK AT CLASS SIZES AS AN ISSUE.

HOW DO WE DEAL WITH CLASS SIZES?

WE NEED TO HIRE MORE EDUCATORS BECAUSE THAT LOWERS OUR CLASS SIZE WE NEED MORE ADULTS ON CAMPUS TO KEEP FAMILIES AND STUDENTS FEELING SAFE IN THEIR SCHOOLS.

WE NEED TO HIRE MORE PEOPLE.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN THINK ABOUT RAISES.

WE ALSO NEED TO THINK ABOUT HEALTH CAROL.

EVERYONE IS DEALING WITH HEALTH CARE ISSUES.

TEACHERS ARE SEEING 2-3% RACES EVERY YEAR BUT THEN HEALTHCARE ET CETERA UP 4%.

WE HAVE TO HAVE GOOD CONVERSATIONS.

>> WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ON THIS SHOW REGARDING TEACHER RETENTION AND RECRUITMENT.

A LOT OF WHAT WE HEAR IT BOILS COUNSEL IS RESPECT.

>> YES.

>> THE AND SOUNDED LIKE TEACHERS STILL DON'T FEEL RESPECTED.

CAN THE LEGISLATURE DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT?

>> YEAH, THEY CAN STOP PUTTING IN BILLS THAT WILL TELL US WHAT TO DO WHEN THEY HAVE NOT ACTUALLY BEEN A TEACHER.

IF THEY COULD STOP AND THINK WHAT CAN WE TAKE OFF THEIR PLATE, SO THAT THEY CAN GET DOWN AND GET IN THERE WITH KIDS AND HELP THEM LEARN, INSTEAD, LAST YEAR THERE WERE OVER 100 BILLS THAT WERE TEACHING AND TELLING US WHAT WE HAD TO DO WITH NO FUNDING ATTACHED TO IT AND IT CHANGES OUR WORKDAY.

>> BUT I THINK THEY WOULD SAY THAT THEY ARE HEARING FROM CONSTITUENTS AND THEY DON'T WANT THEIR KIDS TAUGHT X, Y, AND Z AND THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

>> REFER THEM TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

THAT'S A GOOD CONVERSATION TO HAVE A SCHOOL BOARD MEETING THAT HAPPENS EVERY OTHER WEEK THEY CAN TALK TO THEM.

>> EQUITABLE SCHOOL FUNDING AN ISSUE I AS WELL?

>> YES.

OF COURSE.

WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT ARIZONA IS A VERY DIFFERENT PLACE ACROSS IN EVERY ZIP CODE.

WHEN I AT THAT YOU CAN TO TEACHERS UP AT THE NORTH PART OF OUR STATE, VERY DIFFERENT HOUSING ISSUES, HEALTHCARE ISSUES.

WHEN YOU GO DOWN TO THE SOUTH, VERY DIFFERENT RULE AREAS WHERE HE WE K.RYAN AREAS WE THINK ABOUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS THE MAIN EMPLOYER IN THE AREA.

A LOT OF DIFFERENT PLACES.

>> WHEN THAT'S BROUGHT UP WHAT DO YOU HEAR FROM LEGISLATOR.

THEY DON'T HAVE A GOOD GRASS P ON WHAT THE CONSTITUENTS WANT AND THEY SEEM TO KIND OF GO IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

WE SEE THAT WITH VOUCHERS.

>> LET'S GET TO VOUCHERS.

THE THIRD RAIL DOWN THERE.

YOU TELL ME, IS THERE A MOVEMENT TO GET SOME SORT OF GUARDRAILS I THINK THEY ARE HERE TO STAY BUT GUARDRAILS IN PLACE ALSO A DIFFERENT MATTER.

WHAT ARE YOU HEARING?

>> WE DID A POLL AND 70% OF ARIZONANS WANT SOMETHING DONE ABOUT THE OUT OF CONTROL PROGRAM I THINK IT AS TURNING ON A WATER FEW SETS WALKING AWAY AND WATCHING YOUR HOUSE FLOOD AND NOT CARING THAT WE ARE OUT OF CONTROL.

A BILLION DOLLARS LAST YEAR.

>> I CALLED IT A THIRD RAIL DOWN AT THE CAPITAL S IT?

WILL ANYTHING HAPPEN?

>> IT'S SUCH A CRITICAL ISSUE IT SHOULD BE THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IN TWO WEEKS AND NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.

BECAUSE WE HEAR IT FROM VOTERS AND FROM OUR CONSTITUENTS AND TEACHERS.

>> WOULD YOU BE SURPRISED IF YOU DID NOT GET A HEARING ON THIS?

>> NOT SURPRISED BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE LOTS OF OPTIONS THAT WE CAN DEAL WITH CHANGING LAWS.

>> LAST QUESTION.

HOW MUCH OF WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS OPPOSED TO WHAT YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE?

AS OPPOSED TO BASICALLY PLAYING DEFENSE?

>> I HATE PLACE DEFENSE, A ACE TEACHER WE TRY TO EXPAND AND THINK ABOUT WHAT OPPORTUNITIES ARE OUT THERE.

I REALLY THINK THAT WE NEED THE LEGISLATURE TO STOP TRYING TO KEEP THEIR JOBS AND REALLY TRY TO MAKE PUBLIC SCHOOLS BETTER.

IT'S NOT THAT HARD.

>> MARISOL GARCIA ARIZONA EDUCATIONAL ASSOCIATION WE APPRECIATE IT.

THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

>> THANKS, TED.

♪♪ MUSIC PLAYING ♪♪ >> LONG STATE ROUTE 80 IN SOUTHEAST ARIZONA IS THE TOWN OF TOMBSTONE.

TWO MILES WEST AT THE END OF A DUSTY ROAD STANDS A MONUMENT TO ITS FOUNDER PROSPECTOR ED.

IN A TEEN 78, HE SOUGHT RICHES IN THE UNTAMED MULE MOUNTAINS, DESPITE BEING WARNED THAT THE ONLY THING HE WOULD FIND THERE WAS HIS TOMBSTONE.

THE HE CHEATED DEATH AND DISCOVERED SEVERAL RICH SILVER STRIKES THAT LAUNCHED A BOOM AND ESTABLISHED THE TOWN.

THE BY THE 1880s, TOMBSTONE WAS THE COUNTY SEAT PUT WITH WILD AND COLORFUL CHARACTERS WHOSE ESCAPADES WERE CHRONICLED IN ARIZONA'S OLDEST CONTINUOUSLY PUBLISHED NEWSPAPER THE TOMBSTONE EPITAPH.

THE BOOM HAD ENDED BY THE MID 1890s.

OVER THE FOLLOWING DECADE, TOMBSTONE TRANSFORMED ITSELF INTO A TOWN ED WOULDN'T RECOGNIZE.

BY TURNING LEGENDS OF ITS LURID PAST INTO TOURIST GOLD.

AND BILLING ITSELF AS THE TOWN TOO TOUGH TO DIE.

♪♪ MUSIC PLAYING ♪♪ >> A RECENT STUD AT THIS FOUND THAT OVER 80% OF OLDER ADULTS AT THE STATE'S LARGEST HOMELESS SHELTER SHOW SIGNS OF MENTAL UP PARENT.

TONIGHT AS PART OF OUR MONTHLY AARP STOP SOARED SEGMENT THAT HIGHLIGHT ISSUES IMPORTANT TO OLDER ADULTS, WE HEAR ABOUT CIRCLE CITY'S MEMORY CLINIC LOOKING TO EVALUATE TO GO COGLIANO TIFF EXPERIENCES OF OTHERS.

WELCOME TO "ARIZONA HORIZON."

>> THANK YOU.

>> CIRCLE TO CITY'S MEMORY CLINIC, WHAT IS IS THAT?

>> SO WE LAUNCHED THIS WHEN THE DATA CAME OUT IT WAS AN ASU CIRCLE THE CITY PROJECT ACTUALLY ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, WE STARTED SEEING THIS NEED.

AND CIRCLE THE CITY OFFERS HEALTHCARE TO THOSE THAT ARE HOMELESS AND NEED MEDICAL CARE.

THAT'S OUR FOCUS WHEN WITH WE REALIZED 80%, ACTUALLY UPWARDS OF 90% OF SENIORS ENTERING INTO SHELTERED LIVING.

EXPERIENCING COGNITIVE IMPAIRMENT AND WE LAUNCHED INTO ACTION, THAT'S WHAT STARTED OUR MEMORY PROGRAM.

>> 80 TO 90% OF SENIORS AT SHELTERS SHOW IMPAIRMENT?

>> YEAH.

>> DO YOU THINK THAT'S -- THAT HAS TO BE HIGHER THAN THE GENERAL POPULATION?

>> IT IS.

SO IS THE POPULATION FOR THE UNHOUSED.

>> YES.

>> WHAT WE KNOW IS THAT IS THE LARGEST GROWING POPULATION OF UNHOUSED.

AS YOU CAN IMAGINE GOING FROM BEING HOMED AND HOUSEED TO SUDDENLY HOUSELESS, THAT INCREASES STRESS, ANXIETY AND CREATES A WHOLE OTHER HOST OF PROBLEMS.

>> I WANT TO GET TO THE PROCESS OF HOW YOU DETERMINE THE ASSESSMENT AND THESE SORT OF THINGS, BUT BACK TO WHAT YOU SAID.

HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS IS NOT JUST A VERY TENSE, ANXIOUS, DEPRESSING PERIOD AS OPPOSED TO COGNITIVE DECLINE?

>> RIGHT THINK THEY START WITH A SCREENING TOOL COMMONLY USED IN THE COMMUNITY CALLED MONTRÉAL COGNITIVE ASSESSMENT.

IT'S COMMONLY KNOWNING A MOCHA.

IT'S PRETTY SENSITIVE.

SOME OTHER TESTS AREN'T BUT IT IS, IT'S ADMINISTERED WHEN THEY ENTER INTO SHELTER LIVING.

NOW, IF THAT SCORING IS LOOKING AS IT SOMEONE IS COGNITIVELY IMPAIRED, MEANING UNDER THE SCORE OF 26, 26 TO 30 IS NORMAL.

IT'S NOT UP TO THE SHELTER TO DETERMINE IT.

IT'S UP TO CLAY KHR*EU MISSION THEY COME TO ME AS A RAPPED EL RIFLE.

COMMUNITY NEUROLOGY APPOINTMENTS CAN BE SIX MONTHS, MINE IS QUICK, LIKE A WEEK.

I GO THROUGH THAT A DETAILED ASSESSMENT, SPENDS TIME WITH THEM.

BEST HALF I DON'T RECALL HEALTH SPENDS SOMETIME WITH THEM AND YOU ARE CORRECT, THERE ARE SOME THAT I AM LIKE HOLD ON.

I CAN'T DEAL WITH A MEMORY ISSUE UNTIL I HANDLE YOUR DEPRESSION.

>> AND IF YOU HANDLE THAT DEPRESSION, THE MEMORY ISSUE MIGHT MITIGATE.

>> FOR SURE.

WHICH IS WHY EARLY IDENTIFICATION AND INTERVENTION AND GLOBAL HOLISTIC CARE IS SO IMPORTANT.

>> OTHER THINGS LIKE BRAIN INNING, AND CAT SCANS AND -- ARE THEY INVOLVED AS WELL?

>> THEY ARE.

>> REALLY?

>> YES.

I START EVERY VISIT LOOKING AT DEPRESSION SCORES FOR THE OLDER WE CULL IT RAY PHQ9 A GENERAL DEPRESSION SCALE AND AN ANXIETY SCORE AND SOME SPECIFIC TO GERIATRICS LIKE WHAT MOST PEOPLE WOULD NO A MEDICARE EVALUATION, LIKE THE MEDICARE WELLNESS.

AND EVERYBODY IS GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR A SKAT CAT SCAN IF THEIR SCORES WARRANT IT AND IT LOOKS LIKE I NEED TO KNOW WHAT THAT BRAIN LOOKS LIKE, THEN I'LL ORDER THE CAT SCAN AND DISCUSS THE RESULTS WITH THEM.

>> WHEN YOU GET THE RESULTS, WHAT HAPPENS?

WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE WHO ARE OBVIOUSLY DOING PRETTY WELL AND THOSE WHO ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT DOING SO WELL?

WHAT'S NEXT?

>> YEAH.

AND, OF COURSE, IT'S A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS.

BECAUSE THE MOST VULNERABLE AND THE ONE IS THE ONE THAT WE CARE ABOUT FOR SURE.

YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY DESERVE A FIGHTING CHANCE AT TOMORROW LOOKING BRIGHTER SO MUCH.

IF SOMEBODY IS REALLY VULNERABLE AND AT RISK, A COUPLE OF THINGS CAN HAPPEN.

WE CAN ADVOCATE FOR THEM TO BE OUT OF THE CONGREGATE LIVING ENVIRONMENT AND INTO A MORE SINGULAR HOUSING LIKE THE HAVEN WHICH IS CASA SENIOR SHELTER.

ONE BY ST.

VINCENT'S DEPAUL.

OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE ASSISTED LIVING THAT HAVE PARTNERED SO KINDLY WITH US SO THAT WE CAN HELP GET THEM THERE IN A TIMELY MANNER.

>> YEAH.

I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT PARTNERSHIPS.

THAT'S A BIG DEAL, ISN'T IT?

>> IT IS.

>> YEAH.

>> RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR COMMUNITY.

>> YEAH.

>> I COULDN'T DO WHAT I DO IF I DIDN'T HAVE THEM.

>> THE REACTION WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME HERE.

THE REACTION FROM THOSE YOU HAVE TESTED THOSE YOU HAVE CARED FOR?

THAT'S GOTTA BE REWARDING I WOULD THINK?

>> YEAH, I AM PROUD TO SAY THAT MYSELF AND MY TEAM WHICH IS PRETTY SMALL, BUT MIGHTY, WE ARE WORKING ON OUR 12th HOUSED PERSON SINCE OUR PROGRAM STARTED.

UNBELIEVABLE.

AND WE HAVE PERSONALLY TAKEN THEM TO THEIR NEW HOMES.

>> YEAH.

THE REACTION, THEY HAVE TO -- I GUESS THE REACTION DEPENDS ON COGNITIVE ABILITY.

BUT THEY HAVE TO KNOW SOMETHING GOOD IS HAPPENING.

>> THEY DO.

AND THEY NEVER FORGET US.

>> I'LL BET THEY DON'T.

AMBER PORTER, CIRCLE THE CITY MEMORY CLINIC.

WHERE DO WE HAVE FIND OUT MORE IS THERE A PLACE ONLINE?

>> SURE.

WELL, ACTUALLY YOU CAN CALL CIRCLE CITY AND THAT NUMBER IS (602)776-0776.

>> ALL RIGHT.

VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US AND CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR WORK.

>> THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE IT.

>> YOU BET.

THAT'S IT FOR THOUSAND, I AM TED SIMONS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.

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