
LaHood, Quigley on New Classified Documents Legislation
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Two Illinois congressmen from different sides of the aisle have come together.
U.S. Representatives Darin LaHood (R-Ill.) and Mike Quigley (D-Ill.) are proposing big penalties for anyone in power who mishandles classified documents.
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LaHood, Quigley on New Classified Documents Legislation
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U.S. Representatives Darin LaHood (R-Ill.) and Mike Quigley (D-Ill.) are proposing big penalties for anyone in power who mishandles classified documents.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship>> BIPARTISANSHIP IS RARE IN WASHINGTON THIS -- MORE SPECIFICALLY THEY ARE PROPOSING BIG-TIME CIVIL PENALTIES FOR ANYONE THAT MIS-HANDLES DOCUMENTS.
SOME HIGH PROFILE INVESTIGATIONS INCLUDE ONE AGAINST DONALD TRUMP AND CURRENT PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN.
JOINING US IS CONGRESSMAN MIKE QUIGLEY A DEMOCRAT FROM CHICAGO'S NORTH SIDE AND A REPUBLICAN WHO HAS -- WE THINK YOU BOTH FOR BEING WITH US ON THIS STORMY ILLINOIS EVENING.
CONGRESSMAN QUIGLEY I HAVE TO ASK ABOUT THE NEWS OF THE DAY AND THAT IS THE INDICTMENT OF DONALD TRUMP FOR HIS ALLEGED ROLE IN A HUSH MONEY SCHEME INVOLVING ADULT FILM STAR STORMY DANIELS.
GIVEN ALL THESE INVESTIGATIONS DO YOU AGREE WITH THE MANHATTAN D.A.
BRINGING THESE CHARGES?
>> AT THE GRAND JURY THAT MAKES THOSE DECISIONS.
I WAS A CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY FOR A LONG TIME.
I LET THEM DO THEIR OWN LEGAL PROCESS.
I CAN'T SPOIL THIS COOL BIO MOMENT.
>> THIS BIPARTISANSHIP , I HAVE TO ASK YOU CONGRESSMAN LEVEILLE YOUR REACTION TO THESE CHARGES.
?
>> FIRST OF ALL I THINK IT'S UNREASONABLE WE HAVE NOT SEEN THE INDICTMENT AND WE WILL NOT BE UNTIL NEXT TUESDAY BUT I HAVE REAL CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM -- WHEN YOU INDICT SOMEONE AND IT'S POLITICALLY MOTIVATED AND A COUPLE THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND PARIS.
THE FORMER D.A.
FIGHT CYRUS VANCE REVIEWED THIS CASE AND DECIDED NOT TO PROSECUTE.
THE U.S. ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IN NEW YORK LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE AND DECIDED NOT TO.
YOU HAVE THIS PROSECUTOR THAT COMES IN , GEORGE SOROS GIVES HIM $1 MILLION AND HE DECIDES TO PROSECUTE.
>> THAT'S MISINFORMATION.
THAT IS INDIRECTLY TO AN ORGANIZATION THAT HAS SUPPORTED THEM.
>> ABUT GEORGE SOROS TODAY DIDN'T DENY HE GAVE $1 MILLION TO THIS FUND.
THE LAST POINT THAT I WOULD MAKE IS I THINK IF THIS WAS SOMEBODY NAMED JOHN SMITH I'M NOT SURE THEY WOULD BE PROSECUTING THEM SEVEN YEARS LATER ON A CHARGE THAT'S NEVER BEEN PROSECUTED IN THE D.A.S OFFICE BEFORE.
>> ALL RIGHT LET'S MOVE ON TO THE BIPARTISANSHIP.
YOU BOTH HAVE INTRODUCED THE LEGISLATION TO ADDRESS THE MISHANDLING OF CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS.
A LOT AT STAKE OBVIOUSLY.
TELL US WHAT THIS BILL WOULD DO SPECIFICALLY.
>> CURRENTLY THE PROSECUTORS AND THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
THEY ONLY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESS CRIMINAL CHARGES.
WHAT WE HAVE SEEN HERE IS THAT IS PRETTY HIGH BAR.
IF THERE IS A LACK IN INTENT OR -- INTENT THERE IS NO ACCOUNTABILITY.
WHAT WE DECIDED AS MEMBERS AND FOR MEMBERS OF THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE IS THERE HAS TO BE SOME ACCOUNTABILITY SO IT MAKES SENSE THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL PENALTIES.
WHEN IT DOESN'T REACH THE LEVEL OF CRIMINAL PROSECUTION.
>> WHAT WOULD BE CIVIL PENALTIES?
AND IS THERE A DIFFERENT STANDARD BASED ON INTENT SPECIFICALLY IF SOMEONE MEANT TO CAPE KEEP THE RECORDS VERSUS THEY FORGOT ?
>> I THINK WE REALIZED THERE WERE LOOPHOLES IN THE LAW AND THERE WAS NOTHING THAT ADDRESSED CARELESSNESS, NEGLIGENCE, MAKING MISTAKES, SLOPPINESS.
WE DON'T KNOW THE END OF THE INVESTIGATION WHEN IT COMES TO PRESIDENT BIDEN OR PANTS OR TRUMP .
WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT BUT THERE CLEARLY IS DEFICIENCIES IN THE LAW AND WHAT MIKE AND I DID IN A BIPARTISAN WAY IS CAME TOGETHER AND SAID WHAT CAN WE DO TO FIX THIS?
THE CIVIL PENALTIES ARE A PUNITIVE MEASURE THAT PROSECUTORS WILL HAVE AS ANOTHER TOOL OR THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE WHICH WOULD DO THE PROSECUTION AND THEY SAY MAYBE IT WAS UNINTENTIONAL BUT WE WILL FIND YOU WITH A CIVIL PENALTY UP TO $500,000 FOR EACH COUNT AND THEN SECONDLY IF IN FACT MOVING FORWARD PROACTIVELY IF YOU DON'T GO THROUGH THE PROPER CERTIFICATION PROCESS FOR CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS YOU COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE YOUR PENSION REDUCED AS A GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL.
LOSE YOUR SECURITY CLEARANCES AND THESE ARE MEASURES PUT IN PLACE AGAIN TO DETER THIS TYPE OF ACTIVITY.
>> CONGRESSMAN QUIGLEY, WE HAVE THE HIGH PROFILE INVESTIGATION OF THE MAR-A-LAGO DOCUMENTS WITH FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN ISSUES WITH PRESIDENT BIDEN WHEN HE'S -- WHEN HIS VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE HAD CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS.
WHY DO YOU THINK THIS IS BUBBLING UP NOW?
>> I THINK THEY ARE STARTING TO LOOK FOR THIS STUFF PROBABLY AND LET ME TELL YOU, THERE IS NO EXCUSE.
EVERYONE WHO HANDLES TOP-SECRET DOCUMENTS IS TOLD AND TRAINED OVER AND OVER AGAIN HOW TO HANDLE THESE DOCUMENTS AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS.
NOT JUST NATIONAL SECURITY AT STAKE IS THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO KEEP IT SAFE AND IT'S THOSE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES WHO HELP US.
THE WHOLE SYSTEM OF COOPERATION THAT IS INVOLVED THAT IS SO IMPORTANT TO KEEP THIS COUNTRY SAFE.
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSE WHY IT'S HAPPENING NOW.
IT MAKES NO SENSE.
I THINK WE WILL TELL YOU I HAVE NEVER SEEN IT HAPPEN AND EIGHT YEARS AS A MEMBER OF A COMMITTEE.
DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS TRAINED HARD ON THIS AND THE PROCESS IN WHICH WHICH WE SEE CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS IS VERY NARROW.
I'VE NEVER SEEN AN OOPS TAKE PLACE ALONG THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH SO FAR.
>> OBVIOUSLY IN EXECUTIVE BRANCH A FEW POTENTIAL OOPS.
THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CLASHES OF BIPARTISAN IN THIS CONGRESS.
DO YOU THINK THIS BILL WILL PASS ON A BIPARTISAN BASIS?
>> I DO.
WHEN MIKE AND I GOT TOGETHER AND TALKED ABOUT THIS WE WENT TO EACH OF OUR CONFERENCES AND TALKED TO OUR COLLEAGUES WHETHER IT'S ON THE JUDICIARY OR OVERSIGHT OR INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE AND BROADLY REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS SAID YES, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.
WE NEED TO FIX THE STATUTE AND MAKE SURE THIS ISN'T HAPPENING BECAUSE PARIS, IN THE END THIS JEOPARDIZES NATIONAL SECURITY.
THE LAST THING WE WANT TO HAVE IS OUR SOURCES AND METHODS OF OUR INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY EXPOSED.
FOR SOME REASON OUR NUCLEAR CODES EXPOSED.
HAVING A CIA CASE AGENT EXPOSED.
WE ARE THINKING ABOUT THE NATIONAL SECURITY OF THE U.S.
IT TOOK US ABOUT FOUR WEEKS TO PUT THIS TOGETHER BUT I THINK IT HAS BROAD BIPARTISAN SUPPORT.
I KNOW MIKE AND I LOOK FORWARD TO MOVING IT THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS AND GETTING A HEARING AND TESTIFYING.
>> ALL RIGHT, WE WILL SEE WHERE THAT GOES.
VERY QUICKLY CONGRESSMAN QUIGLEY.
RUSSIA'S INVASION OF UKRAINE, THE U.N. HUMAN RIGHTS CHIEF SAID THAT HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS ARE SHOCKING THE ROOT -- SHOCKINGLY ROUTINE IN RUSSIA.
ARE WE IN A STALEMATE THAT WILL BE PERENNIAL FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS?
>> IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AN AGAIN ON A BIPARTISAN BASIS I KNOW THERE ARE THOSE BUT I THINK THEY ARE ON THE FRINGES.
WHAT I SEE ON THE DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICAN SIDE IS STRONG BIPARTISAN SUPPORT BUT WHAT DID PRESIDENT VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY SAY WHEN HE CAME HERE?
HELP US WIN QUICKLY.
IT'S HARD TO FIND -- SUPPORT FOR ANY CONFLICT FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME AND HE SAID THE SAME THING WHEN I VISITED UKRAINE LAST SUMMER.
I THINK WE GIVE THEM THE WEAPONRY THEY NEEDED TO WIN THIS WAR AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
>> WE JUST HAD INTERVIEW WITH FORMER DEFENSE SECRETARY CHUCK
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