>> MIRROR, MIRROR WHO IS THE MOST CONSERVATIVE OF THEM ALL ?

>> WELCOME TO "COLUMBUS ON THE RECORD."

I AM SITTING IN FOR MIKE THOMPSON.

THE THREE MEN COMPETING TO CHALLENGE DEMOCRATIC SENATOR SHERROD BROWN MADE THEIR FINAL PITCHES TO VOTERS.

FRANK LAROSE, CLEVELAND BUSINESSMAN BERNIE MY NOTE, AND MATT DOLAN MET FOR THE LAST DEBATE BEFORE THE PRIMARY, ALL THREE SAY THEY SUPPORT THE POLICIES OF DONALD TRUMP AND THEIR JOBS LANDED ON WHO IS THE TRUE CONSERVATIVE?

>> THIS IDEA THAT I SUPPORTED POLICIES BUT NOT THE MEDIA TALKING POINTS .

>> THEY ARE DESPERATE TO CONVINCE YOU THEY ARE CONSERVATIVES.

ASK YOURSELF , WHO DO YOU TRUST?

>> THEY ARE REINVENTING THEMSELVES, GO BACK AND LOOK AT WHAT THEY WROTE IN ARTICLES .

>> ANDREW , IS THAT THE RIGHT CLOSING ARGUMENT FOR THEM TO BE MAKING, GIVEN THAT DONALD TRUMP MADE HIS ENDORSEMENT TO BERNIE MORENO ?

>> IT IS CONFUSING TO A VIEWER.

I HAVE BEEN SUMMARIZING THE DEBATES, THEY REALLY HOLD SIMILAR POSITIONS AND THE THINGS THEY ARGUE ARE DIFFICULT.

WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO, BERNIE MORENO HAS THE ENDORSEMENT WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT IN THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY.

HE HAS NEVER HELD OFFICE AND I THINK THEY ARE APPEALING TO NAGGING DOUBTS.

THEY ARE NOT SURE WHETHER THEY CAN RELY ON BERNIE MORENO TO BE KNOW WHO HE IS.

>> MATT DOLAN HAS THE ENDORSEMENT OF ROB PORTMAN.

DOES THAT MAKE A DIFFERENCE ?

>> THE PERSON WHO HAD HIS ENDORSEMENT LAST UNFINISHED DEAD LAST AT 6% , SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS A BIG FACTOR.

I THINK THE BIGGER QUESTION IS TURNOUT.

THE NATIONAL MEDIA HAS DECLARED THE PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY OVER.

PEOPLE ARE NOT USED TO MARCH 19th PRIMERS .

HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL TURN OUT AND FROM WHERE?

ALL THREE CANDIDATES ARE FROM NORTHEASTERN OHIO.

WHERE WILL RURAL OHIO GO?

SOUTHWESTERN OHIO , NORTHWESTERN OHIO LIKE THE GEOGRAPHIC DIFFERENCES ARE A BIG PLATE BUT IF YOU ARE CONFUSED BY WHAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT SO FAR, WATCH TV AND IT GETS MORE CONFUSING ON WHO IS WHICH WAY AND WHO IS ATTACKING WHO AND THERE IS CLUB FOR GROWTH .

SOMETHING ON STEROIDS THAT IS CONFUSING AND COULD GET MORE CONFUSING.

>> VOTER FATIGUE, OUR THIRD ELECTION IN SIX MONTHS .

>> HOW MANY ELECTIONS IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, RUNNING OUT OF FINGERS TO COUNT THEM ALL.

NATIONALLY , THE CENSUS IS IT IS ALL OVER .

WHO WILL TURN OUT ?

A LOT OF THE UNDECIDEDS, THAT IS A REFLECTION OF PEOPLE WHO WILL NOT EVEN VOTE.

>> ULTIMATELY, THIS COMES DOWN TO WHO CAN BEAT DEMOCRATIC SENATOR SHERROD BROWN.

DO DEMOCRATS HAVE AN OPINION ON WHO IS THE STRONGEST OR WHO IS THE WEAKEST BACKPACK >> I DON'T THINK DEMOCRATS HAVE AN OPINION, SHERROD BROWN IS A STRONG CENTER IN OUR STATE , A PERSON OF THE PEOPLE AND A CHAMPION OF THE PEOPLE.

WHETHER IT IS BERNIE MORENO OR MATT DOLAN, OR FRANK LAROSE , SHERROD BROWN IS READY FOR THE CHALLENGE OF ANY OF THOSE CANDIDATES .

>> BERNIE MORENO MAKE SURE THE AUDIENCE KNEW HE WAS ENDORSED BY DONALD TRUMP , SAYING IT SIX TIMES.

WILL THAT MAKE A DIFFERENCE ?

>> IT DOES MATTER.

DONALD TRUMP IS A BIG SPECTACLE , ENTERTAINMENT EVENT ALMOST SOMEBODY VERY PROMINENT, THE FORMER PRESIDENT AND HE GETS ATTENTION.

LIKE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.

YES, WHEN HE COMES, HE MAY HAVE HELPED BUT THE GOVERNOR OVER THE FINISH LINE IN 2018.

>> ONE THING I WILL SAY, I FEEL LIKE BERNIE MORENO IS THE MOST HONORABLE BECAUSE THAT DONALD TRUMP ENDORSEMENT IS THE ONLY THING HE HAS OTHER THAN HIM BEING A BUSINESSMAN.

HE HAS NOT HELD POLITICAL OFFICE BEFORE.

WHEN MATT DOLAN PUT HIS ADVERTISEMENTS ON THESE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS , HE HAS MADE UP GROUND AND THE RACE IS VIRTUALLY TIED WITH ABOUT 20% OF THE ELECTORATE UNDECIDED.

>> ALL THREE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES PLEDGE THEIR SUPPORT TO PROTECT IVF, DOES THAT TAKEN OFF THE TABLE FOR NOVEMBER ?

>> I THINK SO.

THE REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURE AND GOVERNOR PUT THROUGH A BILL TO CLARIFY WHAT THE SUPREME COURT DID.

I DON'T THINK THAT IS AN ISSUE WITH STAYING POWER OF ANY LENGTH.

THAT ISSUE IS PRETTY MUCH OVER.

>> DO YOU HAVE AN OPINION?

>> I WOULD HAVE TO AGREE.

PASSING THE BILL IN ALABAMA HAS BEEN PRETTY TELLING FOR WHERE WE ARE GOING.

>> ANDREW , ALL THREE SAID THEY OPPOSE RAISING THE MINIMUM WAGE AND SOME SAID THEY WERE NOT COMPLETELY SURE IF THEY AGREED WITH MINIMUM WAGE.

DO YOU SEE THAT BECOMING A FACTOR THIS FALL?

>> THE NATIONAL ELECTION WILL BE ABOUT SOME NATIONAL ISSUES.

WE CANNOT EVEN IMAGINE WHAT THEY CAN BE RIGHT NOW.

IT CAN MATTER.

I LOOK AT BALLOT ISSUES I DON'T THINK THEY DRIVE ELECTION RESULTS.

IF SHERROD BROWN WILL CONTRAST HIMSELF WITH A WEALTHY CANDIDATE WHO MAKES IT THROUGH , HE WILL BE THE GUY WITH THE COMMON MAN WHO SUPPORTS MINIMUM WAGE.

IT COULD BE HELPFUL FROM A MAJOR STING STANDPOINT .

-- MESSAGING STANDPOINT.

>> OHIO IS NO LONGER IN PLAY AS A SWING STATE.

HOW DO DEMOCRATS GET TURNOUT?

CLEAR , THE DEMOCRATS HAVE A BASE PROBLEM IN TERMS OF YOUNGER, MINORITY , NOT BEING ENTHRALLED WITH JOE BIDEN.

UNLIKE WHAT HAPPENED IN 2020.

>> I WOULD ARGUE THAT THE REPUBLICANS HAVE A BASE PROBLEM AS WELL WITH THESE ULTRA RIGHT WING CONSERVATIVES, AND YOUR REGULAR REPUBLICANS LIKE YOU, TERRY.

THAT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THE TURNOUT IS GOING TO BE AND HOW THAT WILL AFFECT THE RACE.

>> EVERYBODY HAS TURNOUT PROBLEMS, INCLUDING MARCH 19th .

WHO WILL SHOW UP AND HOW EXCITED ARE THEY ?

>> SOME SAY THE CONTROLLED BURN OF TOXIC CHEMICALS IN EAST PALESTINE WAS NOT NECESSARY.

THE NATIONAL TRANSPORTATION SAFETY BOARD SAYS THE DECISION TO BED AFTER THE TRAIN DERAILMENT LACKED SCIENTIFIC REASON, AND CONTRADICTED X-RATED -- X-RATED FEEDBACK.

THE GOVERNOR SAID KNOW WHAT PRESENTED HIM WITH THE POSSIBILITY THAT CARS COULD GO DOWN.

THE NTSB SAYS THE CHEMICAL TOLD NORFOLK SOUTHERN THE TEMPERATURE STABILIZING AND IT MAY NOT BE NECESSARY TO DO THIS BURN AND VENT.

THAT NEVER MADE IT TO THE GOVERNOR.

WHAT DOES THE GOVERNMENT DO WITH THIS?

>> YOU CANNOT TURN THE CLOCK BACK.

AT THAT TIME, THE FIRE CHIEF ON THE GOVERNOR WHERE THE TWO PEOPLE WHO HAD TO MAKE THE DECISION AND NOBODY IN THE ROOM PRESENTED THIS INFORMATION.

WE ARE LEARNING, AFTER-THE- FACT, SOMETHING DIFFERENT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE.

AT THE TIME, THEY HAD TO DEAL WITH THE POTENTIAL OF A WORSE CRISIS, SOMETHING GOING OFF IN THE NIGHT OR SOMETHING EXPLODING LIKE A GRENADE WITH METAL SHRAPNEL.

THEY HAD TO MAKE A QUICK DECISION WITHOUT ALL THE INFORMATION.

IT IS ALWAYS EASIER A YEAR AFTER-THE-FACT TO SECOND-GUESS AND SAY, IF WE SHOULD'VE DONE THIS OR THAT.

>> THAT IS THE NTSB APOLOGY IS JOB, -- NTSB'S JOB.

>> EASIER IN HINDSIGHT, AFTER THE GAME IF I WAS A COACH, I COULD TELL WHAT TO DO.

>> BOTH SENATORS IN OHIO WERE LESS THAN PLEASED WITH THIS REVELATION BUT THE BIPARTISAN RAIL SAFETY BILL IS STUCK IN CONGRESS ANY CHANCE THIS PUSHES ALONG THIS IN AN ELECTION YEAR?

>> I HAVE TO IMAGINE, NO, THERE ARE THINGS CONGRESS IS HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME PASSING CONTINUING RESOLUTIONS ON THE BUDGET, EVERYONE SEEMS LIKE IT COULD BE A SMALL CRISIS .

IT IS HARD TO SEE IT HAPPENING, ESPECIALLY WITH SHERROD BROWN, ONE OF THE MOST VULNERABLE DEMOCRATS IN THE SENATE.

>> NORFOLK SOUTHERN SAYS THE FINAL CALL ON WHETHER TO BURN THE CHEMICALS WAS MADE BY THE INCIDENT COMMANDER.

DO YOU THINK THAT WILL RESONATE WITH THE PEOPLE IN EAST PALESTINE?

>> NOT AT ALL.

NORFOLK SOUTHERN AND THE CONTRACTORS , IF THEY WOULD HAVE LISTENED TO THE COMPANY, THEY TOLD HIM THE SHIPPING CONTAINERS WERE BEGINNING TO COOL.

I CAN ONLY IMAGINE BEING IN THE WAR ROOM AND TRIED TO MAKE A DETERMINATION WHETHER TO DO THE CONTROLLED BURN, NOT TO DO THE CONTROLLED BURN WITH THIS MASSIVE DERAILMENT AND MANY LIVES AT STAKE.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS PANIC THAT WENT INTO THAT DECISION.

IT SEEMS LIKE THE COMPANY AND THE CONTRACTORS DID NOT LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY HAVE THE CHEMICALS IN THE RAILCARS.

>> THIS IS THE KIND OF THING YOU WANT TO BE WRONG ABOUT.

SENATORS JD VANCE SUGGESTED NORFOLK SOUTHERN PUSHED FOR THE BIRD BECAUSE IT GOT THE TRACK REOPENED QUICKER.

RATHER THAN WAITING FOR THE CARS TO COOL.

HE BROUGHT THIS UP IN THE MIDDLE OF A MEETING ABOUT THE ALASKA AIRLINES DOOR PANEL THAT CAME OFF.

ANY REASON WHY YOU THINK YOU DECIDED TO BRING THIS UP RIGHT NOW?

>> OBVIOUSLY, EAST POLICY AND PEOPLE IN THE AREA ARE NOT HAPPY WITH WHAT HAPPENED AND HOW IT WAS HANDLED.

DIFFERENT FINGER-POINTING.

WHERE DO YOU GO IN THE FUTURE?

THE COMPLEXITY OF LEGALLY, HOW MUCH IS THE CHEMICAL COMPANY , HOW MUCH IS THE COMPANY THAT OWNED THE CONTAINER CAR , HOW MUCH IS THE RAILROAD ?

CLEARLY IT WAS A SCREWED UP MESS.

HOW MANY TIMES DO THESE HAPPEN HOW DO YOU GET ALL THE INFORMATION TO MAKE DECISIONS ?

THE FIRE CHIEF WAS ONE OF THE KEY PERSONS AND HE HAS NEVER HAD THIS KIND OF THING IN A TOWN LIKE THIS.

NORMAL CAR WRECK.

>>> A TOP PORT IS DIVIDED ON WHETHER STUDENTS CAN SUE THE UNIVERSITIES FOR CHARGING FULL TUITION DURING THE PANDEMIC.

THE LEGAL QUESTION IS WHETHER UNIVERSITIES LIKE OHIO STATE HAVE IMMUNITY.

OHIO STATE SAYS THIS WAS A SAFETY DECISION .

BUT THE STUDENTS SAY THEY DID NOT GET WHAT THEY PAID FOR.

THAT IS A CONTRACT VIOLATION.

ON ITS FACE , IT SOUNDS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD .

THE STUDENTS DID NOT GET THE ON TEMPLATE EXPENSE BUT THEY PAID AN ON- CAMPUS PRICE.

WHY DOES THE UNIVERSITY THINK THEY HAVE IMMUNITY?

COVID WAS AN ACT OF GOD.

NOT ANYTHING WE COULD CONTROL.

IT WAS A NATIONAL OR A GLOBAL PANDEMIC.

THE UNIVERSITY IS IN A TOUGH POSITION.

IF YOU PAID FOR A RIDE ON A BUS TORNADO , WILL YOU GET THE MONEY BACK?

IT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE IT IS A TOUGH POSITION FOR THE UNIVERSITY TO BE IN.

WHETHER THEY ARE IMMUNE TO THIS OR NOT.

>> PUBLIC AGENCIES ARE NOT NECESSARILY IMMUNE FROM ANY ACTION, THAT IS WHAT THEY CREATED THE COURT OF CLAIMS TO DEAL WITH THESE ISSUES.

FOR A NARROW LEGAL ISSUE, THIS IS INTERESTING , IT BELONGS MORE IN THE COURT OF CLAIMS WHICH DEALS WITH INDIVIDUAL CASES, OR IS THERE BROADER LEGAL ISSUES THAT BELONGS IN THE 10th DISTRICT COURT OF APPEALS?

HARD FOR NONLAWYERS TO ANALYZE BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A UNIQUE CASE.

>> THE COURT DECIDED IT DOES BELONG IN THE 10th COURT OF APPEALS BUT IT IS CONTROVERSIAL ABOUT WHICH WAY IT SHOULD GO.

I THINK THAT IS HOW THESE THINGS GO SOMETIMES.

I THINK WE ARE GETTING MORE 5-3 SPLIT.

>> 4-3 ON THE OHIO SUPREME COURT.

THIS IS A NEW LEGAL QUESTION WOULD YOU NORMALLY DON'T HAVE.

THE LEGISLATOR CAN'T AFTER-THE- FACT DECIDE WHAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED.

>> MUNICIPAL INCOME TAX, THESE CASES WORKING THEIR WAY THROUGH THE COURTS COME UP WHETHER WE SHOULD GET REFUNDS FROM THE CITY WHEN WE WERE WORKING AT HOME.

WE WILL GET MORE ON THIS .

>> THE MUNICIPAL INCOME TAX, THE STATE LEGISLATURE SAID , FOR A CERTAIN TIME, YOU COULD NOT GET HER MONEY BACK, AFTER THAT, YOU COULD GET YOUR MONEY BACK.

WHETHER IT HAS TO BE DONE LEGISLATIVELY OR THE COURTS WILL SORTED OUT IS TO BE DETERMINED LATER.

>> ANDREW, OHIO STATE STUDENTS WERE AFFECTED BUT IT COULD HAVE AN IMPACT ACROSS OHIO.

>> SEVEN SIMILAR LAWSUITS IN AKRON AND MIAMI, MAYBE OTHER SCHOOLS.

YOU HAD LARGE CITIES THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED, LIKE CLEVELAND , A LOTTA PEOPLE WHO WERE COMMUTING AND NOT ANYMORE BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC.

DOES IT MEAN THE CITY WILL HAVE A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR BUDGET?

THE UNIVERSITIES , DEPENDING HOW THE CASE GOES, WATCHING CAREFULLY AND DETERMINING THE SAME QUESTIONS.

>> IT GETS COMPLICATED , BECAUSE IT HAS THE FUNDAMENTAL FAIRNESS ISSUE .

THERE IS THE QUESTION, DO THOSE STUDENTS FEEL LIKE THEY GOT WHAT THEY PAID FOR?

AT THE SAME TIME, WHEN WE LOOK AT HIGHER EDUCATION, THE STATE HAVE BEEN DROPPING FOR YEARS AND YEARS .

HOW DO YOU STRIKE THAT BALANCE?

>> I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU STRIKE THAT BALANCE.

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SIGN UP FOR SCHOOL , YOU PAY THE TUITION , YOU ARE EXPECTED TO GET AN EDUCATION, YOU EXPECT TO PAY THE ROOM AND BOARD.

IF YOU PAY FOR A MEAL PLAN, THAT'S WHAT YOU GET.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT FALLS.

>> A WASHINGTON --A COURT HAS BEEN ASKED TO DECLARE THE STATE SIX WEEK BAND ON CONSTITUTIONAL SAYING THE LAW CONTRADICTS OUR NEWLY PASSED REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS AMENDMENT.

ANDREW, ATTORNEY GENERAL PREVIOUSLY SAID THAT THE HEART BELONG WOULD BE UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

BUT HE STILL IS CITING TO GET THIS SUIT THROWN OUT.

WHY IS THAT ?

>> THERE IS A BASIC EXPLANATION, HE IS A STATE'S LAWYER AND IT IS HIS JOB.

HE PERSONALLY OPPOSES ABORTIONS .

HE IS RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR IN 2026 AND DOES NOT WANT TO SUGGEST HE IS LEAVING THIS ON THE TABLE .

IT IS HARD TO SAY WHEN SOMETHING IS ON THE BALLOT THAT THIS IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL IF IT PASSES.

ALSO MY NEW LEGAL CONSIDERATIONS .

ON A FUNDAMENTAL LEVEL THE VOTERS FOCUS IS CLEAR.

>> THE BIGGER ISSUE IS NOT THE SPECIFIC CASE, WHICH WILL PROBABLY GET TOSSED OUT , BUT ALL THE OTHER LAWSUITS WHICH ARE COMING BECAUSE OTHER LAWS TO DEAL WITH LICENSING MEDICAL FACILITIES WHERE ABORTIONS ARE PERFORMED, OTHER REQUIREMENTS , AND THE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT, GOOD OR BAD , WAS WRITTEN BROADLY IN THE LANGUAGE AND IT WILL REQUIRE SOME INTERPRETATION BY THE OHIO SUPREME COURT AS FAR AS WHAT SOME OF THESE OTHER ASPECTS MEAN.

AS I MENTIONED , A YEAR OR SO BACK , THIS WILL BE A FULL EMPLOYMENT ACT FOR CERTAIN LAWYERS BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE A LOT OF LAWSUITS TO COME.

>> OHIO IS GOING TO BE ELECTING NEW MEMBERS OF THE OHIO SUPREME COURT IN NOVEMBER.

HOW IMPORTANT DO YOU THINK THAT WILL BE TO HAVE THESE FUTURE LAWSUITS PLAY OUT ?

>> VERY IMPORTANT.

THEY COME WITH THEIR OWN SET OF OPINIONS AND BACKGROUNDS AS WELL.

I WILL GO BACK TO OHIOANS WHO DID PASS, THEY SPOKE WHEN THEY VOTED OVERWHELMINGLY TO HAVE ABORTION-RIGHTS AS A PART OF THE STATE CONSTITUTION.

YOU HAVE TO ASK IS THIS POLITICAL IN NATURE?

>> ANDREW, WE VOTED FOR THE ABORTION TO REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS AMENDMENT , SUPPORT ON THE ISSUE DOES NOT NECESSARILY TRANSLATE AND SUPPORT FOR A CANDIDATE.

STATE SUPREME COURT JUSTICES IN OHIO RUN WITH PARTY AFFILIATION.

DO YOU THINK THAT WILL GET IN THE WAY OF DRAWING THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS AMENDMENT AND THE DEMOCRATIC JUSTICES IN NOVEMBER?

>> I AM SURE THE DEMOCRATS WILL TRY TO DO THAT.

IS A DIFFERENCE WHEN VOTERS ARE ASKED TO CONSIDER A CANDIDATE VERSUS A SOUL ISSUE AND MANY VOTERS DON'T KNOW THAT MUCH ABOUT THE OHIO SUPREME COURT, NOT FIRST IF SOMETHING SHOULD GO IN THE COURT OF CLAIMS OR THE 10th DISTRICT CIRCUIT OF APPEALS IT IS VERY TOUGH.

TWO YEARS AGO, JENNIFER BRUNER, SHE WON IN 2020 WHEN THEY PUT -- AND SHE LOST WHEN THEY PUT A D BY HER NAME.

I GUESS WE WILL SEE WHETHER DEMOCRATS CAN MAKE THE ARGUMENT THE BEST WAY.

>> THEY HAVE TO FUND RAISE FIRST TO MAKE THAT ARGUMENT THE VOTERS .

THE DEMOCRATIC SUPREME COURT CANDIDATES ARE NOT BRINGING IN VERY MUCH MONEY.

>> THERE IS SOME QUESTION, JENNIFER BRUNER FILED A LAWSUIT LOOKING FOR MORE FREEDOM AND FLEXIBILITY TO RAISE MONEY NATIONALLY .

THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THEY CAN RAISE MONEY NATIONALLY, HOW CAN THEY COMMUNICATE THOSE ISSUES .

OHIO VOTERS LOOK AT THE ABORTION ISSUE, AND THE AUGUST ISSUE , NOT DIRECTLY ABORTION COME AND SAY THIS IS NOW DECIDED AND THE ISSUE IS NOT AS MUCH IN PLACE BECAUSE IT IS IN THE CONSTITUTION PERMANENTLY FOREVER.

>> THE FUNDRAISING REPORT ON DECEMBER WAS VERY BAD FOR THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES, DOUBLE DIGITS FOR ONE OF THEM, BUT THEY ARE NOW IN THE SIX FIGURES.

THAT IS GOOD FOR THEM.

>> IT IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

WE TALKED ABOUT HOW THE REPUBLICAN SENATE CANDIDATES WERE HANDLING THE ABORTION ISSUE.

IS OFFENDING THE HEART BELONG THE RIGHT CALL WHEN THERE WILL BE OTHER ABORTION LAWSUITS COMING DOWN THE PIKE?

ONES WHERE IT MAY NOT BE CLEAR IF THE REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS AMENDMENT WOULD PROHIBIT THEM?

>> THEY HAVE HOUSTON IN 2026, IF THEY DON'T WIN THE PRIMARY, DOESN'T MATTER.

RIGHT NOW , IN 2024, WE JUST GOT DONE WITH 2023 .

2026 IS A LONG WAY OFF, WHETHER THE PRIMARY OR THE GENERAL ELECTION.

AND THERE IS A QUESTION WHERE THE DEMOCRATS, WHO WILL THEY RUN FOR GOVERNOR AS THE LAST COUPLE OF TIMES THEY HAVE NOT DONE VERY WELL BECAUSE THE CANDIDATES WERE NOT VERY GOOD TO BE BLUNT .

>> YOU MENTIONED 2026.

I DID NOT.

YES IT IS RUMORED THAT YOST AND HOUSTON WILL FACE OFF TO BE THE NEXT GOVERNOR OF OHIO.

IS IT A WASTE OF STATE RESOURCES DEFENDING THIS HEART BELONG ?

>> I DON'T THINK IT IS A WASTE OF STATE RESOURCES.

THE ATTORNEY GENERAL IS THE STATE'S REPRESENTATIVE.

IN CASES THAT COME BEFORE THE STATE, HE HAS TO DEFEND CASES THAT ARE FOR THE STATE.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS A WASTE OF RESOURCES BUT OHIOANS HAVE SPOKEN AND THEY WENT TO THE BALLOT AND OVERWHELMINGLY PASSED THE RIGHTS FOR ABORTION TO BE IN OUR CONSTITUTION.

>> ANDREW, WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL BE THE NEXT LEGAL CHALLENGE?

WHEN WILL THEY DECIDE TO TACKLE THE 48 HOUR WAITING TIME?

ULTRASOUNDS?

>> I HAVE BEEN WONDERING ABOUT THAT.

SO MUCH TIME HAS PASSED AND WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANOTHER ONE OPENING UP.

THE WAY THAT THESE THINGS WORK , YOU ONLY HAVE SO MANY LAWYERS AND ONLY SO MUCH MONEY.

I AM NOT SURE WHAT ELSE IS GOING ON IN THE BUDGET.

I IMAGINE IT HAS THE CAPACITY.

I HAVE BEEN WONDERING .

THEY ARE NOT TELLING US.

>> BUT THEY WILL COME, JUST LIKE SPRING AND SUMMER WILL COME.

>> A BIG QUESTION WITH THE WINTER WEATHER COMING.

THAT IS ANOTHER TOPIC.

IDEALLY, SURPRISING IT TOOK THIS LONG TO FORMALLY FILE TO END THE HEARTBEAT BILL, IT IS NOT TECHNICALLY THE LAW OF THE LAND.

SINCE 2022 OR 2021 ?

>> I AM NOT SURE.

>> IT HAS RECENTLY COME BACK INTO THE NEWS.

THIS IS NOT OLD NEW.

THIS HAS BEEN DEBATED FOR ALMOST A YEAR IF NOT MORE.

>> THE NATIONAL GROUPS HAVE PUT MONEY INTO THE OHIO RACE.

THEY HAVE OTHER BATTLES THEY ARE FOCUSED ON IN 2024 IN OTHER STATES.

THEY HAVE ONLY SO MUCH MONEY FOCUS ON OTHER STATES.

THERE ARE QUESTIONS TO BE DECIDED IN OHIO BUT THEY ALSO ARE FOCUSING THEIR RESOURCES IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY.

>> IT IS TIME FOR OUR WEEKLY OFF THE RECORD PARTING SHOT.

>> THE U.S. SENATE RACE IS NOT THE ONLY HIGH-PROFILE RACE THAT IS GOING ON IN OUR STATE.

THE PROSECUTOR'S RACE IN THE COUNTY IS ONE RACE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO PAY ATTENTION TO.

HAVING A CITY COUNCILMAN, COUNTY PROSECUTOR RUNNING, ATTORNEY FROM THE DUBLIN AREA IS RUNNING FOR THE RACE.

>> I WILL GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THE FORMER SENATOR TED GRAY, LONGEST-SERVING STATE CENTER IN OHIO HISTORY.

HE PASSED AWAY.

HE SERVED 47 YEARS BUT WAS DIFFERENT ERA, BEFORE THEY WERE PROMOTING THEMSELVES SO MUCH.

NICE TO REMEMBER LEGISLATORS WHO FOCUS AND HAVE EXPENSE AND DEPTH OF KNOWLEDGE TO BE AWARE OF ALL THE ISSUES IN THE LEGISLATURE , NOT AS MANY OF THOSE AROUND THESE DAYS UNFORTUNATELY.

>> I ENJOYED THIS WEEK, TO WRITE ABOUT ARNOLD'S WAS LATER ENDORSING THE REDISTRICTING AMENDMENT BECAUSE THAT IS THE TOPIC --ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER ENDORSING THE REDISTRICTING AMENDMENT.

HASTA LA VISTA, BABY WAS IN THE HEADLINE.

>> WOSU HAS A NEW PODCAST TAKING A COUPLE GET A TOPIC AND UNTANGLING IT THIS SEASON, WE ARE EXPLAINING THE HOUSING CRISIS.

WHY IT FEELS IMPOSSIBLE TO BUY, AND WHY RENT IS HIGH.

MONDAYS AT 11:00 OR ANYTIME BY SUBTRACTING TO THE UNTANGLED PODCAST .

YOU CAN WATCH US ANYTIME ON OUR WEBSITE, WOSU.ORG/COTR, YOUTUBE, AND THE PBS VIDEO APP.

HAVE A GOOD WEEK.