- Governor Severino.

You are aware of difficult pregnancy stories like Christine's, and you're also aware that part of the problem here in Middlevania is that abortion is illegal, except where necessary for preservation of the mother's life.

The doctors are saying it is not now necessary for preservation of the mother's life.

Christine is healthy.

She could make it, days, a week, two weeks.

I'm wondering if you would support a change to Middlevania's law, to make sure that in this rare and extreme circumstance, induced labor would be available to a patient like Christine.

- Well, you made a very clear distinction.

You said induced labor.

You did not say the word abortion.

- As somebody who has done abortions and done induced labor, they're just different ways to say the same thing.

We can do an abortion by inducing labor and we can do an abortion with a procedure, but they're both abortions.

- When do you stop the baby's heartbeat?

- Well, are we talking, we're talking about a fetus.

- Say, 21 weeks.

They have heartbeat.

- So I mean, in this situation, almost always the fetus is born dead.

- Governor Severino, just to clarify, would you support an exception to make this option of induced labor available to Christine?

- If there is a duty that follows to do everything reasonable to save that child's life, you don't just discard it, you don't just treat it as waste.

It is actually- - Okay.

- If I may?

- I wanna go to Andrea here.

- I just wanted to say one thing, Aaron, in talking about this tragic situation - [Aaron] Yes.

- our daughter and our grandchild is facing.

You raised two issues related to health.

One, was Christine's Health, and how our grandchild would be if the child was able to be born at twenty two, twenty three weeks.

And you mentioned, I can't remember the exact phrasing, but like, significant disability- - Chance of impairment.

- Right.

I just wanna say, in our home, every child will be loved regardless of their disabilities, their strengths, their incapacities, or the need that they have.

- Thank you.

Brittany.

- I struggle with the splitting of hairs and words because this is actually not hypothetical for me.

And my podcast audience knows this.

My water broke at the end of my 22nd week.

I woke my husband up in the middle of the night and I said, I think something's wrong.

It turned out that the leak was about to be a full rupture and I was going to have to be hospitalized until my son was born, unless I chose to terminate the pregnancy because we were in Washington, D.C., and 24 weeks is viability outside of the womb.

- Mm.

- So I had a choice to make through a lot of prayer, through a lot of conversation with my husband.

We chose to give birth and my son is doing beautifully now.

He's turns four in about a month, and if he were here, he'd tell you exactly what kind of birthday party he wants.

(audience applauding) And my podcast audience also knows about my great, great, great great grandmother named Joanna.

Joanna was born enslaved.

From everything we know about Joanna's life, she was forced to bear children when she was a minor.

24 children.

I am grateful to her that I am her progeny, but the truth is I have to ask myself if Joanna wanted 24 children.

How her body reacted to having 24 children, and doing the backbreaking labor of building this country.

And so I took the question that the doctor asked me at 22 weeks deeply seriously.

So for me, the conversation about induced labor versus an abortion, all of that to me means that nobody around this table should have a say on what I end up doing with my body.