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Lead Levels and Cleanup Costs Are High in Milwaukee Schools
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Cleaning up lead paint and replacing pipes is one element in Wisconsin's 2025-27 budget.
Multiple schools in Milwaukee have had closures due to lead contamination, and costs of cleaning up paint and replacing water pipes is one element in the politics of Wisconsin's 2025-27 state budget.
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Lead Levels and Cleanup Costs Are High in Milwaukee Schools
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Multiple schools in Milwaukee have had closures due to lead contamination, and costs of cleaning up paint and replacing water pipes is one element in the politics of Wisconsin's 2025-27 state budget.
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>> The legislature's budget writing committee is on a road trip across Wisconsin this month.
The Joint Finance Committee, now fashioning the 20 2527 state budget, is holding public hearings in four cities through the month of April.
The Republican majority will start from scratch on the budget, even after Governor Tony Evers delivered his two months ago.
One item in the governor's budget that legislators will be deciding on is money for lead remediation.
Evers wants $300 million to replace lead pipes and remove lead from buildings statewide.
Of particular concern.
Lead contamination in the city of Milwaukee.
Inside its schools.
Here and now.
Reporter Nathan Denzin is tracking that.
>> It's about doing what's best for our kids and families.
Simple as that.
>> In his state of the state address, Governor Tony Evers declared 2025 the year of the kid.
Part of that declaration was over $300 million in budget proposals that would go towards lead remediation across the state.
>> There is no safe level of lead exposure for kids.
>> Lead is the one.
Lead is the serious one.
That really hurts kids.
>> Marty Kanarek is an environmental epidemiologist and professor at UW-Madison that has studied lead and lead poisoning for nearly 50 years.
>> A little kid exposed to lead doesn't grow as fast, doesn't reach developmental milestones as fast.
It affects behavior.
It causes hyperactivity, attention deficit, bad behavior, disorderly conduct, lack of concentration.
It affects hearing.
It affects speech.
>> Lead exposure affects everyone but children from birth to about six years old are at particularly high risk.
There are many ways to get lead poisoning.
Two of the most common are from inhaling lead dust from deteriorated paint, or from lead pipes carrying water.
Once the toxin is in the body, it can be stored in bones for more than 25 years, and in some communities it can be hard to escape.
>> Milwaukee is like its own state on lead.
>> I think 62% of lead poisoning cases in children are from Milwaukee.
Throughout the throughout the whole state.
>> Ryan Clancy is the representative for Assembly represents the area around Trowbridge Elementary School, which temporarily shut down in March after dangerously high levels of lead were found.
>> Really, every almost every MPs school and many schools across the state were built before 1970.
They almost certainly have lead paint in them.
>> So far in 2025, seven schools in the MPs district have found a concerning level of lead.
>> That probably is the tip of the iceberg here.
>> Trowbridge was the first to temporarily relocate students, but three more temporarily shut down after health officials found nightly remediation work was unsafe.
In some instances, lead paint chips were found within arm's reach of a child's desk.
The other three schools were able to complete emergency remediation without relocating students.
One of those schools is Golda Meir lower campus.
>> My child is a third grader at Golda Meir lower campus, and on January 13th, we received a letter from MPs and the Milwaukee Health Department alerting us that there had been a lead poisoned child.
And the at the school and the source of that lead poisoning was our school.
>> Kristen Payne was shocked when the Milwaukee Health Department released pictures from inside the school.
The pictures show cracked and of lead dust on windowsills and floors.
Emergency remediation at Golda Meir was done while children were still attending class in the building.
>> I'm deeply concerned about sending my child into an environment that is not safe.
>> While Payne says she's frustrated with how school district leaders have handled remediation, the buck ultimately stops at the legislature.
>> The defunding of our public schools is sort of a longer kind of trajectory of how we got here, right?
That there just hasn't been adequate money for staffing.
know, even lead paint from schools are extreme.
>> Clancy estimated that a single classroom could cost up to $20,000 to remediate, replacing lead water pipes can cost even more.
>> You can't ask a school to sa, how many teachers will you fire in order to do lead remediation?
>> It's not something that we can defer.
And if we do choose to defer it, it will have serious consequences for our communities.
>> Making sure our kids are healthy physically and mentally is a crucial part of improving outcomes in our classrooms.
>> Evers proposals can be broadly broken down into two categories remediation for lead painted windows and for lead pipes.
For window remediation.
The governor is asking for $100 million plus two full time positions for a program that replaces lead painted windows to tackle lead pipes.
The Evers ask includes more than $200 million to fund replacement efforts.
>> You've got not just a classroom.
You've got not just a school.
You've got multiple schools shut down.
So that creates creates this wave of chaos behind it.
>> Chris Kapenga is the state senator from Delafield.
>> Number one, there needs to be accountability in NPS because the parents are upset about it.
Local elected officials are upset about.
>> It.
At the Capitol.
Assembly Speaker Robin Vos said Evers entire budget proposal is dead on arrival for the fourth consecutive biennium, making it difficult to know how much of this funding will be passed.
>> The legislature will most likely just create their own budget, and we always have.
The governor always lays out a budget and it's his wish list.
>> Kapenga said NPS first needs to figure out what went wrong before the state commits to sending more money to the district.
happened so that it never happens again.
So the new superintendent of schools should be the one that says this is important to us.
>> Realistically, Kapinga says Evers entire proposal won't get funded, but he still isn't sure what the legislature will propose yet.
>> That is a big question that cannot be answered in a political sound bite, because we haven't done the work yet to understand what's needed.
>> But Clancy and Payne say even the full proposal wouldn't have been enough to remediate all of the lead in Wisconsin.
>> I'm grateful that there's some money in the state budget for now, write Evers recommended budget, but even that's not enough.
>> $221 million just for lead hazard control.
>> So we're estimating somewhere you know between $600,000,001 billion.
We should be starting there in the budget.
>> It's just a question of money.
Political will to give the money to do the job.
>> Even if the initial cost is high.
Everyone agrees that something needs to be done to keep students safe.
>> This is going to have to be a priority because we can't educate our kids if they can't be in the classroom.
>> Every dollar that is spent on that means an improvement in the quality of life for folks all across the state.
>> It's a losing argument to not focus on lead eradication.
>> The research is exquisite in showing that every little bit of lead hurts kids brains.
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