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>> ERIC: ON TONIGHT'S SHOW, BIG REPORT ON FEEDING OUR FUTURE FROM THE STATE'S LEGISLATIVE AUDITOR.

PAUL DOUGLAS TALKS SEVERE WEATHER, AND MORE.

LIVE JAZZ MUSIC IN THE STUDIO.

AND MARY LAHAMMER IS FOLLOWING ETHICS AND SPECIAL ELECTION POLITICS AT THE CAPITOL.

>> Mary: SENATOR MITCHELL FACES ANOTHER ETHICS HEARING AND THAT COULD BECOME AN ISSUE IN THIS SPECIAL ELECTION THAT IS HAPPENING AND WILL DECIDE CONTROL OF THE SENATE.

>> THE MITCHELL SITUATION ALONG WITH MANY OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN OUR STATE ARE VERY RELEVANT IN ANY SPECIAL ELECTION.

>> Mary: THAT'S COMING P ON "ALMANAC."

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>> ERIC: IN THE NEXT HOUR, WE'LL ASK A U OF M ETHICS PROFESSOR ABOUT THE "STAR TRIBUNE" CEO'S TIES TO GOVERNOR WALZ, KEVIN KLING IS HERE TO SHARE AN ESSAY, AND A COUPLE MEMBERS OF TWIN CITIES PBS HYPE CREW PREVIEW THEIR UPCOMING DOCUMENTARY.

CATHY HAS THE NIGHT OFF AND MARY LAHAMMER JOINS US.

>> MARY: THANKS, ERIC.

WE START TONIGHT WITH FEEDING OUR FUTURE.

THURSDAY, THE OFFICE OF THE LEGISLATIVE AUDITOR RELEASED A REPORT ON FEEDING OUR FUTURE AND PRESENTED IT TO LAWMAKERS.

THE KEY FINDING, THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION'S LACK OF OVERSIGHT ENABLED FRAUDULENT BEHAVIOR.

EARLIER IN THE WEEK, A SEPARATE AUDIT RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT THE FRAUDULENT PRONE "HERO CHECKS" PROGRAM, THE STATE PAYMENTS TO FRONT-LINE WORKERS DURING COVID.

IT'S BEEN A BUSY WEEK FOR THE LEGISLATIVE AUDITOR AND HER OFFICE, JUDY RANDALL.

WELCOME BACK.

GO THANK YOU FOR MAKING TIME BECAUSE YOU'LL HAVE TO SLEEP AT SOME POINT.

WOW.

BOTH OF THESE ARE PANDEMIC-ERA PROGRAMS.

I THINK CONTEXT IS WHAT WE DO AND THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT CONTEXT HERE, ISN'T IT?

TALK TO US ABOUT THAT.

>> >> YES AND NO.

THE FEEDING OUR FUTURE SCANDAL, I GUESS FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, THOSE CHILD NUTRITION PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN GOING ON FOR DECADES AND WHAT WE FOUND IN OUR REPORT IS THAT THE INADEQUATE OVERSIGHT STARTED WELL ABOVE THE PANDEMIC.

REALLY, WE SAW ISSUES STARTING IN 2018 WHERE THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION DIDN'T TAKE THE NECESSARY ACTION TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE.

RECEIVED COMPLAINTS ABOUT NEEDING OUR FUTURE AND DIDN'T INVESTIGATE THEM OR REFERRED THE COMPLAINTS TO FEEDING OUR FUTURE TO INVESTIGATE ITSELF.

ALL OF THOSE THINGS HAPPENED PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC, SO THAT'S FEEDING OUR FUTURE.

ON THE FRONT-LINE WORKER PAY PROGRAM, YES, THOSE WERE PANDEMIC-ERA BONUS CHECKS, IF YOU WILL, BUILT THE PROGRAM WAS IMPLEMENTED IN '22 SO WE WERE NO LONGER IN THE HEIGHT OR PANIC OF THE PANDEMIC.

>> Eric: IS THE MINDSET FROM THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE LEGISLATURE GET THE MONEY OUT THE DOOR AND WHATEVER HAPPENS WILL BE WHATEVER HAPPENS, OR... >> WELL, I CERTAINLY CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE MINDSET OF THE ADMINISTRATION.

WHAT I CAN SAY IS THERE WERE DITCH SITUATIONS.

THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, HONESTLY, I THINK THEY WERE ILL-PREPARED.

THEY REALLY TRUSTED PEOPLE.

THEY WORKED WITH PEOPLE, TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE, PARTNERS.

FOR DOLI, I THINK THERE WAS A RUSH THERE.

THEY FELT A LOT OF URGENCY TO GET THE MONEY OUT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

>> Eric: IF I INTERPRET WHAT YOU SAID IN THE HEARING THE OTHER DAY, IT'S TIME FOR A CULTURE CHANGE THAT STATE AGENCIES CAN'T BE YOUR GOOD BUDDY AND YOUR PARTNER, THAT YOU NEED A LITTLE ADULT SUPERVISION.

IS THAT FAIR OR -- >> IT IS FAIR.

I DID SAY THAT.

I THINK THAT THERE'S REALLY A TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE, WE'RE PARTNERS, WE WORK TOGETHER, WE EXPECT COOPERATION AND THAT'S FINE FOR SOME OF WHAT STATE AGENCIES DO BUILT THERE IS A REGULATORY OVERSIGHT FUNCTION THAT WE ALL EXPECT FROM STATE AGENCIES AND IN MANY STATE AGENCIES, WE'RE NOT SEEING THAT MINDSET OR THAT SKILL SET.

>> Mary: ALSO IN THAT COMMITTEE, THOSE MOMENTS BIPARTISAN OUTRAGE EALLY FROM LAWMAKERS, A COUPLE OF REALLY COLORFUL QUOTES, ONE LAWMAKER SAID RED FLAG SO BRIGHT IT WAS BLINDING.

ANOTHER, OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE AISLE, SAID, YOU KNOW, THE BUCK IS STILT RUNNING DOWN THE STREET AND NOT GOING WAY, NOT BEING STOPPED.

SO WHERE DOES THE BUCK STOP?

THAT RAISES AN INTERESTING QUESTION BECAUSE THE COMMISSIONER GOING BACK TO THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, IT'S A DIFFERENT COMMISSIONER.

>> IT IS A DIFFERENT COMMISSIONER AND THEY'VE HAD A LOT OF NEW STAFF THERE AT THE DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION.

I THINK IT'S FOR THE PUBLIC TO DECIDE WHERE THE BUCK STOPS.

I MEAN, ALL WE DO IS WE GO IN, WE GET THE FACTS AND WE -- >> Mary: WAS IT CHALLENGING WITH SO MANY KEY PLAYERS NOT THERE ANYMORE?

>> IT WAS A LITTLE CHALLENGING.

WE FOCUS ON DOCUMENTATION AND EVIDENCE AND THAT SHOULDN'T CHANGE WHETHER OR NOT, YOU KNOW, THE LEADERSHIP CHANGES.

>> Eric: LETS ME DIRECT TO YOU A SEPTEMBER, 22nd OF LAST YEAR QUOTE FROM GOVERNOR WALZ.

WE CAUGHT THIS FRAUD FEEDING OUR FUTURE VERY EARLY.

WE ALERTED THE RIGHT PEOPLE.

TRUE?

>> THAT'S NOT WHAT WE FOUND.

THAT'S NOT HAT WE FOUND.

I MEAN, WE CERTAINLY DON'T THINK THEY CAUGHT IT EARLY, RIGHT, BECAUSE WE SAY THERE WERE RED FLAGS STARTING IN 2018.

THEY ALERTED USDA OIG, THIS IS A USDA PROGRAM -- >> Eric: SUPERVISED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION HERE.

>> SO IT'S FEDERAL MONEY, USDA THAT COMES DOWN TO THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION THAT THEN GOES OUT.

SO THEY ALERTED USDA, OIG IN THE FALL OF 2020 WITH CONCERNS, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, OF 2020 WITH CONCERNS.

IN FEBRUARY OF '21, F.B.I.

THEN REACHES OUT TO MDE.

MDE STAFF TOLD US THEY THOUGHT THAT WAS USDA, OIG NOTIFYING THE FBI COMING TO THEM, I DON'T KNOW, AND THEN IN APRIL OF MUCH 21, THERE IS A MEETING OF MDE-FARE F.B.I., WE DON'T KNOW WHO INITIATED THAT.

WE DIDN'T SEE ANY DOCUMENTATION OR EVIDENCE THAT MDE REACHED OUT O F.B.I.

>> Mary: IN LIGHT OF BOTH OF THESE AND THE BUSINESS THAT YOU'RE HAVING PROBING THIS AND IS THERE SOMETHING TO -- WE HEAR ONE SIDE OF THE AISLE IS LOOKING FOR WASTE, FRAUD, ABUSE, MAYBE A NEW OFFICERS, AN OBUDSMAN, WHAT DO YOU THINK GOING FORWARD COULD CHANGE IN STATE GOVERNMENT TO PREVENT FRAUD ON THIS SCALE?

THIS IS THE LARGEST PANDEMIC FAILED IN AMERICA.

>> LET'S HOPE WE NEVER SEE THIS TYPE OF FRAUD AGAIN AND LET'S HOPE THAT FOLKS IN THE AGENCIES ARE A LITTLE MORE CRITICAL, A LITTLE MORE SKEPTICAL OF WHAT THEY SEE.

>> Mary: IS THAT ENOUGH, THOUGH?

WOULD YOU RECOMMEND SOMETHING BIGGER AND BROADER FOR GOVERNMENT?

>> I DON'T KNOW.

I THINK I NEED TO LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT THOSE IDEAS ARE BEING PROPOSED AND THINK ABOUT IT.

I DO THINK WE NEED TO UP EVERYBODY'S GAME A LITTLE BIT.

>> Eric: JUDY RANDALL, THANKS SO MUCH.

APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

>> Mary: APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANKS SO MUCH.

♪♪♪ >> ERIC: THIS WEEK, THE "MINNESOTA REFORMER" REVEALED "STAR TRIBUNE" CEO AND PUBLISHER STEVE GROVE KEPT IN CONTACT WITH THE WALZ ADMINISTRATION AFTER STARTING HIS ROLE LEADING THE PAPER.

THE FORMER D.E.E.D.

COMMISSIONER CONTINUED TO TEXT WALZ'S OFFICE FOR MONTHS AFTER LEAVING.

THIS HAS RAISED ETHICAL CONCERNS ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE AND THE STATE'S LARGEST NEWSPAPER.

HERE WITH US NOW, MEDIA LAW AND ETHICS PROFESSOR AND DIRECTOR OF SILHA CENTER FOR THE STUDY OF MEDIA ETHICS AND LAW AT THE U OF M, JANE KIRTLEY.

WELL, PROFESSOR, DOES THIS ON THE FACE OF IT LOOK LIKE A VIOLATION OF SOME CONFLICT OF I WANT CODE?

>> I THINK IT'S A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE THE PUBLISHER OF THE LARGEST NEWSPAPER IN THE STATE, YOU HAVE PLENTY OF PLATFORMS TO HAVE YOUR VIEWPOINT KNOWN.

IF YOU THINK THAT THERE IS A GREAT CANDIDATE OUT THERE TO BE YOUR SUCCESSOR ON THE D.E.E.D.

COMMISSION, YOU CAN WRITE AND OP ED, WRITE AN EDITORIAL, HAVE IT IN THE "STAR TRIBUNE" AND LET LEADERS DECIDE HOW THEY WANT TO DEAL WITH THAT, IF THEY WANT TO THINK THAT THAT REPRESENTS A CONFLICT OF I WANT FOR THE NEWSPAPER OR NOT.

BUILT TO DO THIS TEXTING KIND OF BEHIND THE SCENES, COVERTLY, I THINK IT'S PROBLEMATIC, AND I ALSO THINK IT PUTS THE REPORTERS IN A REALLY AWKWARD POSITION.

>> Eric: DIFFERENT RULES, THOUGH, FOR AN OWNER OR PUBLISHER OR -- >> WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT HAS BEEN THE CONVENTIONAL WISDOM.

I MEAN, MAYBE WE HAVE CITIZEN GROVE AS THE PUBLISHER OF THE "STAR TRIBUNE" WHO WANTS TO BE A KING-MAKER AND THAT'S A LONG TRADITION IN JOURNALISM BUT I THINK THE REALITY IS THAT YOUR PUBLISHER WHO'S THE HEAD OF THE PAPER SETS THE TONE FOR THE WHOLE NEWS ORGANIZATION AND IT'S PROBLEMATIC FOR THE REPORTERS, I THINK, WHO GO TO COVER GOVERNMENT SUPPOSEDLY WITH NO AGENDA OTHER THAN SERVING THE PUBLIC INTEREST, TO NOT KNOW THAT THEIR PUBLISHER ACTUALLY IS TRYING TO INFLUENCE WHAT'S GOING ON.

>> Mary: NOW, THE DEFENSE WE'VE HEARD IS THESE ARE FRIENDS FOR 20 YEARS AND TEXT MESSAGES, I WOULD SAY AS A REPORTER, ARE MORE CASUAL KIND OF OFF THE RECORD MEANS OF COMMUNICATION.

VERSUS FORMAL EMAILS, SO I THINK -- ISN'T THERE A COUPLE OF LAYERS HERE HAT MAKE THIS INTERESTING?

>> ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD SAY IS THAT THE MINNESOTA GOVERNMENT DATA PRACTICES ACT, OUR OPEN MEETINGS LAW IS ACTUALLY QUITE PROTECTIVE OF LOTS OF PERSONAL COMMUNICATIONS BUT THE WAY THE MINNESOTA REPORT REFORMER GOT THIS BY TEXT WAS FILING FOR AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST.

SO THEIR SUBJECT TO DISCLOSURE BY THE PUBLIC ND HONESTLY THINK STEVE GROVE SHOULD HAVE BEEN AWARE OF THAT.

>> Eric: ARE YOU THE JOURNALIST YOU'RE THE PUBLISHER?

>> I THINK YOU WOULD HAVE O ASK STEVE GROVE WHO HE THINKS OF HIMSELF IN THIS ROLE AS.

PEOPLE THAT ARE PUBLISHERS CAN CERTAINLY WRITE OP ED AND OTHER PIECES.

ARE THEY CONVENTIONAL REPORTERS IN THE WAY OF GOING OUT FOR NEWS, I THINK NOT BUT THEY'RE SETTING THE TONE.

>> WOULD A REPORTER HAVE BEEN TREATED DIFFERENTLY IN THIS BY MANAGE.

AT THE "STAR TRIBUNE"?

>> I CAN'T SAY WHAT THEIR RULES OF ETHICS ARE BUT I THINK MOST NEWS ORGANIZATIONS I KNOW, THEY WOULD SAY, THIS IS PROBLEMATIC, WE DON'T CARE HOW LONG YOU'VE BEEN FRIENDS WITH THIS PERSON.

IF YOU'RE REALLY THAT CLOSE O THEM AND WANT TO CONTINUES YOUR COMMUNICATIONS, MAYBE YOU NEED A DIFFERENT BEAT AT THIS NEWSPAPER.

>> Mary: WHAT ABOUT MEDIA TRUST IS AT AB ALL-TIME LOW OR AT LEAST IN MY CAREER HERE.

DOES THIS JUST FIT INTO WHAT PEOPLE MIGHT BELIEVABLE TO BE TRUE ANYWAY?

>> IN YOU LOOKED AT THE "STAR TRIBUNE" STORY ON THIS AND SAW THE RODER COMMENTS, IT WAS QUITE PREDICTABLE THAT MANY PEOPLE SAID THERE IS WHAT I ALWAYS KNEW, THAT THE "STAR TRIBUNE" IS JUST AN ARM OF THE DFL.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO BE DOING THINGS THAT REINFORCE THAT NARRATIVE ALSO OF COURSE IT HAPPENS TO BE TRUE BUT I THINK THE "STAR TRIBUNE" WOULD SAY THAT THEY ARE AN INDEPENDENT NEWS ORGANIZATION.

>> Eric: DOES A BETTER FIREWALL HIM -- JUST HELP R ARE YOU JUST COUNTING ON THE GOOD THOUGHTFULNESS OF FOLKS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THE PUBLISHING AND REPORTING OF THE PAPER?

>> I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD CAUTIONARY TALE BOUT HOW YOU'RE REALLY NEVER OFF DUTY IF YOU'RE A JOURNALIST AND THAT INCLUDES THE PUBLISHERS, TOO.

>> Mary: IS IT A GOOD IS SIGN THAT THE "STAR TRIBUNE" REPORTED ABOUT THIS?

>> I THOUGHT IT WAS TERRIFIC WHEN THE REPORTER THAT WAS ASSIGNED TO THIS, I ASKED HER, DID YOU DRAW THE SHORT STRAW BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT IS THAT THE "STAR TRIBUNE" MEANT IT HEALED-ON AFTER THE MINNESOTA REFORMER MADE THE PUBLICATION AND SAID LET'S LOOK AT THIS AND SEE.

>> Eric: WHEN BEN BRADLEY PUBLISHER OF THE PROBLEMS ADVISES JFK BACK IN THE '60s, THAT WAS A DIFFERENT TIME OR IMPROPER?

>> I THINK THAT WAS A DIFFERENT TIME AND CERTAINLY WE KNOW BECAUSE OF REVELATION ATTENTION OF, YOU KNOW, MANY, MANY YEARS, THAT THIS KIND OF INTERACTION WITH PUBLISHERS WAS NOT UNCOMMON.

WASHINGTON OF COURSE IS A STRANGE PLACE WHERE SOURCES AND JOURNALISTS PLAY TENSION WITH EACH OTHER AND THEY OFTEN LOOK AT THESE THINGS IN A DIFFERENT WAY BUT I THINK WHAT THIS REMINDS US IS THAT YOU CAN NEVER BE TOO CAREFUL ABOUT MAINTAINING THAT ALL BECAUSE, AGAIN, YOUR GOAL OUGHT TO BE TO ADVANTAGES THE PUBLIC INTEREST, NOT YOUR OWN PERSONAL INTEREST.

>> Eric: REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR SHARING YOUR EXPERTISE ON THIS.

THANKS VERY MUCH.

>> MY PLEASURE.

♪♪♪ >> KEVIN: WITH THESE RECENT SUMMER RAINS, MY GARDEN AT HOME HAS TAKEN OFF.

THE SEEDS I STARTED INDOORS A FEW COLD MONTHS AGO ARE NOW HAPPY PRETEENS.

AND IN MY MINNEAPOLIS BACKYARD, WALKING MY "ACREAGE," I THINK OF MY GRANDFATHER, GRANDMOTHER, AUNTS, AND MY UNCLES, ALL FARMERS.

FIVE GENERATIONS OF FLATLANDERS THAT NEVER KNEW ALTITUDE OR SEASICKNESS.

GARDENING ALWAYS BRINGS THEM BACK TO ME IN A VISCERAL WAY.

SEEDS FROM THE OLD COUNTRY WERE THEIR GIFT TO THE NEXT GENERATION.

THERE'S A HMONG SAYING... "WHENEVER YOU PLANT A SEED IN A NEW PLACE, BRING A LITTLE DIRT FROM HOME."

SOWING SEEDS IS AN ACT OF RESILIENCY, THE BATTLE CRY "THEY BURIED US, BUT WHAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW WAS WE WERE SEEDS."

THE DREAM THAT A NEW ERA WILL THRIVE FROM THIS.

BUT TO GROW, IT TAKES TENDING, AND TIME AND CARE.

I THINK OF THOSE WHO TENDED ME THROUGH SOME VULNERABLE YEARS.

MY THIRD GRADE TEACHER, MS. KELLER, SHE HAD FIREY RED HAIR, EVEN INTO HER 90S.

I FOUND A REPORT CARD RECENTLY FROM HER THAT SAID, "KEVIN HAS NO UNDERSTANDING OF THE MATERIAL BUT I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT HIM."

SHE UNDERSTOOD ME.

WHEN I WAS IN GRADE SCHOOL, THERE WAS A MAN NAMED RAY.

HE WAS EVERYWHERE, AT EVERY CONCERT, BASKETBALL GAME, IN THE LUNCH ROOM.

EVEN BEFORE THE MILK HIT THE FLOOR, THERE WAS RAY WITH THE MOP, OR GREEN SAWDUST.

WE WERE NEVER ALLOWED TO CALL HIM A JANITOR.

MS. KELLER SAID, "RAY IS A CUSTODIAN.

FOR HIM, IT'S NOT ABOUT THE BUILDING, IT'S ABOUT YOU."

MARY OLIVER SAID, "ALL KINDNESS BEGINS WITH THE SOWN SEED."

WENDELL BERRY CALLED PLANTING TREES "PLANTING A PLACE FOR BIRDS TO SING."

AND THERE'S THE SAYING: "THE BEST TIME TO PLANT A TREE IS 20 YEARS AGO AND, THE NEXT BEST TIME IS TODAY."

GARDENING IS AN ACT OF FAITH.

WE PLANT KNOWING OF EARLY FROSTS, DROUGHT, FUNGUS, BLIGHT, BUT AFTER THIS MANY YEARS, IT'S WHAT I DO.

IT'S IN MY BODY, AND THROUGH THESE SEEDS, MY WAY OF LIVING AS PART OF THE PANTHEON.

♪♪♪ >> MARY: IT'S BEEN A WILD WEEK OF WEATHER SO NO BETTER TIME TO CHECK IN WITH AN "ALMANAC" FAVORITE, PAUL DOUGLAS.

HIS WEATHER MUSINGS CAN BE FOUND IN THE "STAR TRIBUNE."

YOU CAN HEAR HIM ON WCCO RADIO.

AND IN HIS SPARE TIME, HE HEADS UP HIS OWN WEATHER COMPANY, PREDICT-IX.

WELCOME BACK, PAUL.

WET, WINDY, WILD.

>> YES.

>> Mary: THERE ARE SOME WITHs FOR YOU.

>> WE'RE DONE HERE.

YOU SUMMED IT UP PERFECTLY.

YOU STOLE MY THUNDER.

IT HAS BEEN A WILD SPRING, AND WE'LL GET TO THE STATISTICS.

FIRST OFF, THE TORNADOES, FOUR CONFIRMED TORNADOES, BRAINERD LAKES, ON UP TO CARLTON COUNTY.

>> Eric: I WANT GRAPHICS TO PROVE THIS.

>> USUAL VISUALS, REALLY?

I KEEP FORGETTING THIS IS TV.

>> Eric: THERE YOU GO.

>> PRETTY PICTURES.

BY THE WAY, I?!

THIS PHOTO ON THE CROSSTOWN AFTER MY BIRTHDAY DINNER WEDNESDAY EVENING.

>> Mary: NOT WHILE YOU WERE DRIVING, RIGHT?

>> NO, I'M SORRY, DID I -- MY WIFE CAPTURED THIS AS I WAS DRIVING WESTWARD BUT THAT IS CUMULONIMBUS MAMATUS, REMIND ME OF ICE CREAM SCOOPS ANDMERCIALFULLY, WE GOT STORMS IN THE MORNING IN THE METRO WHICH COOLED THE ATMOSPHERE.

OTHERWISE, HAD THAT NOT HAPPENED, HAD WE NOT HAD THOSE MORNING STORMS, WE MIGHT HAVE SEEN A TORNADO OUTBREAK HERE IN THE IMMEDIATE METRO.

AS IT WAS, THE FOCUS WAS UP NORTH.

FRIEND OF MINE, PETE SKANK, LEVELS ON LAKE OSSIWOWANOMIKEE, FOUND HIS PONTOON TOLDLY FLIPPED, TOTALLY SUB MERGED BUMP HE TOLD ME THAT TWO HOMES DOWN, NO DAMAGE.

THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE STRAIGHT-LINE WIND.

THAT DOES SOUND LIKE TORNADO FOOTAGE.

THIS IS THE -- THIS IS 5-17, THAT IMAGE ON THE RIGHT WHERE YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE RED AND THE GREEN, THAT'S THE VELOCITY FIELD.

IT INDICATES A CAN YOU PLEASELET RAPIDLY SPINNING, SUPER CELL THOROLD AND JUST A LITTLE BIT AFTER THAT, IT DROPPED SEVERAL KANSAS-SIZE EF2 TORNADOES, AND I WANT TO MENTION, WE HAVE THE VERY LATEST WAS JUST CAME OUT ABOUT AN HOUR AGO, AN EF2 TORNADO IN CROW WING COUNTY, TOUCHED DOWN WHITEFISH LAKE, CLAM ISH LAKE, STARTED IN ABOUT JENKINS AND THEN LIFTED OFF THE GROUND NEAR BREEZY POINT.

>> Mary: IT'S LIKE YOU'RE READING OFF THE WIRE ALL OVER AGAIN HERE, PAUL.

>> I KNOW.

>> Mary: BREAKING NEWS.

>> IT WAS ON HE GROUND FOR THREE MILES, 700 YARDS WIDE.

THEN TOUCHED DOWN AGAIN, FARTHER DOWNWIND, STILL CROW WING COUNTY, RAPID LAKE, CEDAR LAKE, HAM MEDICAL LAKE AND A BRIEF TOUCHDOWN IN AIKIN COUNTY.

TWO SUPER CELLS, FOUR TORNADOES AND SPEAKING OF WINDY, THE SECOND-MOST WIND GUSTS OVER 30 MILES AN HOUR SINCE 1945 FOR METEOROLOGICAL SPRING.

ONLY 2022 HAD MORE WIND GUSTS.

I DON'T REMEMBER THAT.

>> Mary: THERE'S A LOT OF WEATHER HAPPENING.

WET, WINDY, JUICY OUT THERE.

>> YEAH.

WE FINALLY HAVE THE MOISTURE, IT'S GREEN, LUSH, MARK SEELEY, FOURTH WETTEST AROUND IN MAY SINCE 1895.

I SEE NO END TO THAT AND HERE IS A MAP WITH NOTHING ON IT WHICH I THOUGHT WAS NEWS WORTHY.

WE DON'T HAVE DROUGHT, NO DRY POCKETS FOR THE FIRST TIME IN FOUR YEARS.

MODELS HITTING AT TEN INCHES OF RAIN OVER THE NEXT WEEK FOR PARTS OF MINNESOTA.

WE WILL SEE MORE HEAVY THUNDERSTORMS SATURDAY AFTERNOON, SATURDAY NIGHT.

SUNDAY LOOKS LIKE THE BETTER DAY FOR THE LAKE, IN THE 80s.

I THINK WE'LL BE UP NEAR 90 EARLY NEXT WEEK.

WE JUST GET A TASTE OF THIS HUGE HEAT WAVE WHICH IS GOING TO BE GRIPPING THE GREAT LAKES, THE NORTHEAST AND THE MID ATLANTIC.

FOR US, THE 7-DAY FORECAST, UPPER 80s, LOW 90s, COOLS OFF A ALSO BUILT LATER NEXT WEEK BUT HOPEFULLY NOTHING MORE SEVERE.

>> Eric: BY NEXT FRIDAY, 1260 MILLION PEOPLE IN THE U.S. WILL SEE TEMPERATURES 90 DEGREES OR HIGHER WITH HEAT INDEXES ABOVE 100.

260 MILLION PEOPLE.

>> YEAH.

MUCH OF THE GREAT LAKES, THE OHIO VALLEY, PLACES LIKE CARIBOU, MAINE, WHERE THEY'VE NEVER GOTTEN TO 100 DEGREES MAY SEE 100.

>> Eric: WHAT ABOUT SOUTH FLORIDA, THEY'RE GETTING DRENCHED?

>> SOME SPOTS GOT 10 TO 20 INCHES, I SAW A MAX OF 28 INCHES NOT THAT FAR ARE FROM MIAMI AND IT WAS A TOPICAL DISTURBANCE, IT WASN'T VEN A TROPICAL STORM.

>> Mary: IS THIS ALL CLIMATE CHANGE?

>> THERE'S MORE WATER IN THE ATMOSPHERE AND THAT'S JUST A FACT.

THAT'S NOT A CLIMATE MODEL.

YOU WARM HINGS UP, BASIC PHYSICS, IT CAN HOLD MORE WATER VAPOR AND THAT WATER VAPOR COMES DOWN HARDER NOW, CONSISTENTLY.

>> Eric: THANKS, AS USUAL.

>> MY PLEASURE.

>> Eric: YOU'RE THE KING OF THE GRAPHIC.

A GRAPHIC NOVEL, MAYBE.

THANK YOU, I THINK.

>> Eric: PAUL DOUGLAS, EVERYBODY!!

♪♪♪ >> I LOOK AT THIS AND I WORRY.

I DON'T THINK I WOULD HANDLE THIS AS WELL AS TAG HERE IS DOING.

HOW MUCH WOOL COMES OFF A SHEEP?

>> A LITTLE LAMB LIKE THIS, THREE OR FOUR POUNDS.

>> THREE OR FOUR POUNDS OF WOOL.

THAT TAKES -- >> TAKES ABOUT EIGHT POUNDS TO MAKE A SUIT COAT.

>> EIGHT POUNDS OF WOOL.

WHAT'S YOUR RECORD FOR NUMBER OF SHEEP SHORN IN A DAY?

>> 324.

>> 24 SHEEP.

IS THAT WORKING LIKE AN EIGHT-HOUR DAY?

>> YEP.

LET ME SEE.

THAT'S ALMOST A HEEP A MINUTE.

>> THAT'S PRETTY CLOSE.

>> MARY: THE TWIN CITIES JAZZ FESTIVAL IS SET FOR ANOTHER SLEW OF PERFORMANCES ACROSS THE METRO NEXT WEEK, INCLUDING RIGHT HERE TWO FLOORS BELOW US IN THE TWIN CITIES PBS STREET SPACE.

BUT TONIGHT WE HAVE A PREVIEW FOR YOU HERE IN STUDIO B. ERIC EDWALDS ON PIANO AND VOCALIST COURTNEY BURTON WILL BE MAKING THEIR JAZZ FEST DEBUT NEXT SATURDAY DOWN IN OUR STREET SPACE.

ALONG WITH THEM IS DAYNA MARTINEZ, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF TWIN CITIES JAZZ FEST.

WHAT CAN WE EXPECT THIS YEAR?

>> WELL, YOU KNOW, THE WIN CITIES JAZZ FESTIVAL IS JUST A CELEBRATION OF ALL KINDS OF JAZZ MUSIC.

WE'VE GOT TWO OUTDOOR STAGES IN MERES PARK AND THEN OVER 20 VENUES ALL AROUND LOWERTOWN, DOWNTOWN AND BEYOND, INCLUDING OF COURSE THE STREET SPACE.

I CANNOT WAIT.

>> Mary: VERY EXCITING.

YOU'VE BEEN DOING HIS FOR MORE A QUARTER CENT RE, JAZZ FEST.

HOW HAS IT CHANGED, WHAT MIGHT LOOK DIFFERENT THIS YEAR?

>> WE HAVE NEW VENUES THAT ARE PARTICIPATING.

ACTUALLY, SOME DOWN HERE IN LOWERTOWN, GAMBIT BREWING AND AN IT OPEN YOU KNOW RESTAURANT AND WE HAVE SOME?

MINNEAPOLIS, AS WELL, CROONER'S A SUPER LUB OUT IN FRIDLEY.

>> Mary: REALLY SPREAD, MORE THAN THE TWIN CITIES, IT'S KIND OMETRO JAZZ FEST NOW.

WHO DO YOU HAVE WITH YOU TODAY HERE?

>> WE'VE GOT COURTNEY BURTON AND HER PIANIST ERIC AND SHE'S GOING TO BE WITH HER BAND DOWN IN THE STREET SPACE ON SATURDAY, THE 22nd.

>> Mary: TELL US ABOUT WHAT YOU'LL PERFORM FOR US TODAY, COURTNEY.

>> WE WOULD LIKE TO PERFORM A LOVELY JAZZ BALANCE THAT HAD TITLED "CRAZY HE CALLS ME."

>> ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

♪ I SAY I MOVE THE MOUNTAINS AND I'LL MOVE THE MOUNTAINS IF HE WANTS THEM OUT OF THE WAY ♪ CRAZY, HE CALLS ME.

♪ SURE, I'M CRAZY, CRAZY N LOVE I SAY ♪ ♪ SUN I'LL GO THROUGH FIRE AND I GO THROUGH FIRE IF HE WANTS IT, SO IT WILL BE ♪ ♪ CRAZY HE CALLS ME, SURE I'M CRAZY, CRAZY IN LOVE, YOU SEE ♪ ♪ LIKE THE WIND THAT SHAKES THE BOW HE MOVES ME, HE MOVESLY WITH HIS SMILE ♪ IS BUT DIFFICULT, I'LL DO IT RIGHT NOW, THE IMPOSSIBLE MIGHT TAKE A LITTLE WHILE ♪ ♪ I SAID I'D LOVE FOREVER AND I MEAN FOREVER ♪ IF I HAVE TO HOLD UP THE SKY ♪ CRAZY, HE CALLS ME ♪ SURE, I'M CRAZY, CRAZY IN LOVE ♪ ♪ LIKE THE WIND THAT SHAKES THE BOW ♪ HE MOVES ME, HE MOVES ME WITH HIS SMILE ♪ THE DIFFICULT I'LL DO RIGHT NOW ♪ BUT THE IMPOSSIBLE MIGHT TAKE A LITTLE WHILE ♪ ♪ I SAID I'LL LOVE FOREVER AND I MEAN FOREVER ♪ IF I HAVE TO HOLD, IF I HAVE TO HOLD UP THE SKY ♪ CRAZY HE CALLS ME, SURE, I'M CRAZY ♪ CRAZY IN LOVE ♪ CRAZY IN LOVE ♪ CRAZY IN LOVE AM I ♪♪♪ ♪♪♪ ME, MY NAME IS KRIS AND I JOINED THE "ALMANAC" TEAM LAST YEAR.

ARGUABLY AN EVEN MORE LIFE-CHANGING MOMENT LAST YEAR IS I BECAME A FATHER.

WELL, 50/50.

MY BOSS IS WATCHING THIS AND MY DAUGHTER HASN'T WELCOMED ME ON HER FRIDAY NIGHT BROADCAST.

THOUGH, EACH DAY IS LIKE I'M AUDITIONING TO BE A DAD, BEING STRUNG ALONG AS IF MY KID IS GOING, "HEY, PRETTY GOOD, BUT LET'S HOLD OFF AND SEE HOW YOU DO TOMORROW."

FOR THE RECORD, I GET BIG LAUGHS, WHICH IS PROMPTLY FOLLOWED BY BIG DIAPERS.

SURPRISINGLY, THERE'S NO SCRIPT TO THIS PARENT THING, WHICH IS ODD BECAUSE THERE IS A FORMULA NOW TO MY DAYS AND NOT THE ONE THAT ALWAYS FINDS ITS WAY ON MY SHIRT.

THAT'S WHAT THE VEST IS FOR, AND TO TRY TO KEEP TOGETHER THE EXTRA POUNDAGE.

BUT IT'S FAR FROM A ONE-MAN SHOW.

IT'S AN ENSEMBLE OF FAMILY, FRIENDS, AND POLITE COWORKERS THAT LET ME FORCE MY BABY PICTURES ON THEM.

AND I CAN'T FORGET ABOUT THE LEAD ACTRESS, JUGGLING MULTIPLE ROLES.

INCLUDING MOM AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TEACHER.

THAT'S WHY THIS FATHER'S DAY, I'D LIKE TO TAKE THE SMALL CLAIM I HAVE TO THIS DAY AND SHARE IT WITH ALL OF YOU.

AND NOT JUST BECAUSE IT'S MY REAL WISH TO TAKE THE SPOTLIGHT OFF OF ME SO I CAN SNEAK AWAY TO NAP, BUT BECAUSE IT DOES TAKE A VILLAGE AND IT TAKES EACH OTHER TO MAINTAIN ONE.

SO, IF YOU'RE NEW PARENT OR A SEASONED ONE, OR CARING FOR YOUR OWN PARENTS OR SOMEONE ELSE'S, GREAT JOB THIS YEAR.

HERE'S YOUR FLOWERS, AND TAKE A BOW.

IF YOU LOVE WHAT YOU DO, YOU'LL NEVER WORK A DAY IN YOUR LIFE.

WELL, I LOVE BEING A DAD, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO RENEWING MY CONTRACT THIS FATHER'S DAY.

THAT'S HOW THIS DAY WORKS, RIGHT?

AND TO MY DAUGHTER, IF YOU'RE WATCHING THIS, DAD LOVES YOU, AND WHY ARE YOU STILL AWAKE?

♪♪♪ >> ERIC: NEXT WEEK IS JUNETEENTH AND HYPE, A MEDIA EDUCATION AND TRAINING PROGRAM FOR YOUTH OF COLOR HERE AT TWIN CITIES PBS HAVE A BRAND-NEW DOCUMENTARY SET TO SCREEN AT THE MINNEAPOLIS INSTITUTE OF ART.

HERE'S A SHORT EXCERPT... >> UNCLE WAS A VISIONARY.

HE WAS SERIOUS BUT HE COULD ALSO HAVE FUN.

I KNOW THAT HE'S REJOICING BECAUSE I THINK HE ENVISIONED THIS INTERESTED THIS.

INTERESTED -- HE WANTED YOUNG PEOPLE THAT LOOKED LIKE HIM, YOUNG PEOPLE OF COLOR TO HAVE VISIONS.

THE THAT THEY HAD A RIGHT TO WALK THROUGH MUSEUMS AND EXPERIENCE THEIR CULTURE.

RIGHT.

TO HAVE JOY, TO HAVE PEACE, TO HAVE HOPE.

TO DO THINGS FAR BEYOND WHAT HE COULD EVER IMAGINE DOING.

>> ERIC: HERE WITH US NOW FROM HYPE, DARIUS SMITH AND AKETZALLY MURILLO.

WELCOME TO "ALMANAC."

DARIUS, YOU GOT TO SEE THE EXHIBIT.

WHAT WERE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT IT?

>> I HAD A LOT OF THOUGHTS.

SOME OF THOSE PIECES OF WORK I HAD NEVER KNOWN WERE SO DEEP UNTIL I SEEN THEM IN PERSON, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY LIKE MY FAVORITE NE IS THE ONE THAT HAD THE BOY WHERE HE ONLY HAD ONE LEG ND I THINK THE OTHER ONE WAS LIKE A WOOD ONE OR SOMETHING.

HE WAS LIKE STANDING ON CRUSHES.

AND THAT ONE REALLY WAS POWERFUL, YOU KNOW.

IT RESEMBLED, OBVIOUSLY HE'S GOING THROUGH THINGS WITH HIS LEG BUT THERE'S EVEN MORE THINGS THAT HE HAS TO WORRY ABOUT, TOO, AND I FELT LIKE THAT KIND OF RESEMBLED THE COMMUNITIES AND HOW THINGS ARE BROKEN.

>> Eric: WHAT DID YOU TAKE AWAY FROM THE EXHIBIT WHEN YOU SAW IT?

>> MOSTLY, I FELT INSPIRED BUT ALSO COMFORTABLE.

I JUST FELT LIKE IT WAS ICE TO SEE MEDIA FROM SOMEONE WHO JUST WASN'T -- HAD TO WORK THEIR WAY UP THERE, YOU KNOW.

>> Mary: SO OLD PEOPLE LIKE US KNOW GORDON PARKS BUT WAS THIS NEW WORK TO YOU?

WAS THIS A REVELATION, DO YOUR FRIENDS KNOW ABOUT HIS WORK?

>> A LOT OF MY FRIENDS, THEY'VE NEVER HEARD OF HIM OTHER THAN WHEN I BRING HIM UP, HONESTLY.

>> Mary: AND YOU'VE BEEN BRINGING IT UP TO THEM?

>> OH, SURE.

OF COURSE.

>> Mary: WHAT KIND OF REACTION ARE THEY HAVING?

>> A LOT OF PEOPLE WHEN THEY LOOK AT THE PARK'S WORK, THE D.C.GOTHIC OR THE IOWA GOTHIC, WHEREVER THAT ONE WAS AND YOU GOT TO KIND OF TAKE THEM THROUGH WHO GORDON PARKS WAS AND HOW HE WAS AS A PERSON HOW HE SAT DOWN TO GETS TO KNOW THE PEOPLE HE WAS TAKING PICTURES OF AND HOW HE WAS A BIGGER PART OF THE COMMUNITIES IN THAT WAY, EXPLAINING THAT WAS REALLY BEAUTIFUL.

>> Mary: DID YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT HIM BEFORE THIS?

>> HONESTLY, NO, BUT I WISH I HAD AND JUST LEARNING ABOUT HIM HAS BEEN SO NICE.

>> Mary: ARE YOU SHARING IT WITH OTHERS, TOO, BECAUSE SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE DOING SOME TEACHING, I LOVE IT WITH YOUR COMPATRIOTS.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT PEOPLE YOUR AGE, ARE YOU KIND OF SHARING THIS KNOWLEDGE NOW?

>> I THINK HE HAS IT DONE A LOT BETTER THAN I DO BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR MORE PEOPLE TO KNOW ABOUT HIM.

>> Eric: DID YOU GUYS DO WORK ON THE DOCUMENTARY ITSELF?

>> I ACTUALLY GOT TO BE AN ASSISTANT, A PRODUCTION ASSISTANT, ACTUALLY, SO I GOT TO HELP HIM GUIDE A LITTLE BIT AND BUMP CERTAIN PENNSYLVANIA AND KNOCKED THINGS DOWN, I DIDN'T DO TOO MUCH TALKING UNTIL THE EDGED BUT I WAS IN THE BACKGROUNDS A LITTLE BIT AND HELPING TO GUIDES HIM A LITTLE BIT.

>> I MOSTLY DID TALKING BUT IT WAS REALLY NICE TO SEE ALL THE BACKGROUND WORK, SEE HOW HAT WORKED.

>> Mary: SO WHAT INTRIGUED YOU THE MOST BECAUSE I GOT STARTED, I WAS TELLING YOU GUYS THIS, 30 YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS AN INTERN HERE, WORKING WITH ROBIN HICKMAN, I REMEMBER HER BACK IN THE DAY.

WHAT IS APILING TO YOU, ON CAMERA, BEHIND THE SCENES, PRODUCING?

WHAT'S STARTING TO KIND OF LIGHT A FIRE FOR YOU?

>> HONESTLY, A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING.

JUST KIND OF LIKE HOW GORDON PARKS DID A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING ESPECIALLY FOR HIS SHORT FILM, KIND OF DID IT ALL BY HIMSELF.

SO I'M JUST TRYING A BIT OF EVERYTHING, JUST TO SEE WHAT I LIKE.

>> Mary: SAME QUESTION, I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHAT'S INTRIGUING YOU, WHAT PART OF THE WORK IS THE MOST KIND OF SALIENT FOR YOU?

>> WELL, LIKE SHE SAID, I'M VERY INTERESTED IN LEARNING AS MUCH AS I CAN ABOUT THE ENTIRE MEDIA INDUSTRY SO BEING BEHIND THE SCENES WITH CAMERAS AND SEEING THE EDITING AND ALSO SEEING HOW SOMEBODY IS GUIDING THE PERSON WITH THE CAMERA SO THEY DON'T PUMP THINGS, YOU DON'T SEE NONE OF THAT UNTIL YOU'RE ACTUALLY BEHIND THE SCENES SO I GUESS BEHIND THE SCENES, WORKING WITH THE CAMERAS, DITING AUDIO, I GUESS ALL OF IT, I JUST LOVE IT.

>> Eric: YOU GUYS ARE BOTH IN IGH SCHOOL, RIGHT?

>> YEAH.

>> Eric: DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE PROVIDES WHAT FOR YOU, WHY ARE YOU INTERESTED IN THAT PROGRAM PARTICULARLY?

>> FOR ME, YOU'VE ONE A LOT OF OTHER PROGRAMS CENTERED PARENT MEDIA AND ALTHOUGH I LOVE THEM AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR WHAT I LEARNED FROM THEM, THINK DIDN'T REALLY PROVIDE THE SAME ENVIRONMENT THAT HYPE DOES.

I GET TO SEE PEOPLE FROM ALL DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS AND I JUST FEEL AT HOME.

>> Eric: SAME QUESTION TO YOU, DARIUS.

>> MAN, I'VE NEVER BEEN A PART OF ANY OTHER MEDIA PROGRAM OTHER THAN HYPE AND Ms. ROBBINS SAID SOMETHING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LIFE.

SHE SAYS, IT TAKES A VILLAGE TO RAISE A CHILD AND WHEN I'M AT HYPE, I FEEL LIKE I'M PART OF A VILLAGE, A COMMUNITIES, SOMETHING THAT IS VERY MUCH BIGGER THAN MEDIA.

>> Eric: TELL US ABOUT THE SCREENING.

DO YOU HAVE THE TIME AND PLACE FOR US?

S-I BELIEVE IT'S ON THE 20th, YES?

>> Mary: THAT'S CORRECT, YEP.

>> Eric: JUNE 20th.

[Overlapping Conversation].

>> Eric: MINNESOTA INSTITUTE OF ART.

>> YEP, THE MINNEAPOLIS INSTITUTE OF ART.

>> Eric: WILL YOU GUYS BE THERE TO PROVIDE CONTEXT AND GREET PEOPLE?

>> YEAH, WE'LL BE THERE.

I'LL BE THERE.

>> Mary: HAVE WE HOOKED YOU INTO MEDIA CAREERS?

DOES IT NOT SEEM SO BAD NOW THAT YOU'VE SEEN IT FIRSTHAND IN.

>> I DEFINITELY WANT TO CONTINUE IS TV IN MY NEAR FUTURE.

>> Eric: I WISH I HAD YOUR FUTURES.

ALL THE BEST TO BOTH OF YOU.

THANKS FOR COMING DOWN.

>> Mary: HAPPY TO HAVE YOU IN OUR INDUSTRY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANKS YOU.

>> MARY: TIME TO FILE FOR OFFICE HAS CLOSED AND THE CAMPAIGN FOR CONTROL AT THE STATE CAPITOL HAS BEGUN.

THAT WAS CLEAR AS THE SENATE'S BIGGEST CONTROVERSY RETURNED TO THE CAPITOL THIS WEEK.

HERE'S HOW IT ALL CONNECTS.

>> I AM CALLING THE SENATE SUBCOMMITTEE ON ETHICAL CONDUCT TO ORDER.

>> Mary: SENATOR NICOLE MITCHELL, THE DEMOCRAT CHARGED WITH FELONY BURGLARY, APPEARED IN PERSON FOR ANOTHER ETHICS HEARING.

>> WE HAVE NO MORE -- NO NEW INFORMATION OR CHANGES THAT WE WOULD PERHAPS FIND ANOTHER DAY TO MEET AFTER SENATOR MITCHELL HAS A HEARING.

>> Mary: WITH NOR COURT HEARINGS AHEAD, THIS COMMITTEE WILL RECONVENE JULY 25th TO CONTINUE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO JUDGE ONE OF THEIR OWN.

>> BY JULY 25th, THIS CASE WILL NOT BE SUBSTANTIALLY ADVANCED TO THE POINT THAT THERE WOULD BE NEW INFORMATION.

>> Mary: MITCHELL'S ATTORNEY SAID ANY COURT JUDGMENTS IS MONTHS AWAY, AS DID HE ALL THE TALKING FOR THE SENATOR WHO STAYED SILENT.

>> I DO PRACTICE CRIMINAL DEFENSE.

>> Mary: THE EVEN POLITICAL SPLIT ON THE PANEL MAKES DECISIONS DIFFICULT BUT IN THEIR FIRST MEETING SINCE SESSION ENDED, THE POLITICAL DYNAMICS HAVE CHANGED.

>> WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET ANY AND ALL INFORMATION THAT'S RELEVANT FOR THIS COMMITTEE BEFORE THE COMMITTEE IN THE EVENT THAT THERE IS SOMETHING THAT COMES UP.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WILL CAUTION US TO IS NOT TO ALLOW OTHER THOUGHTS OF PARTY LEADERS OR ANYONE ELSE SAYING SOMEONE SHOULD RESIGN, THAT IS THAT PERSON'S OWN DECISION.

>> CERTAIN MEMBERS OF THE LEGISLATURE HAVE MADE CALLS FOR RESIGNATION, THE PARTY CHAIR, SOME POLITICAL DYNAMICS HAVE SHIFTED, THE LEGAL DYNAMICS ARE WHAT THEY ARE HERE.

>> Mary: SENATOR MATHEWS DID JUST SAY THE POLITICAL DYNAMICS HAVE CHANGED, MAYBE LEGALLY IT HASN'T, DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT?

>> YEAH, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.

WHICH NEED TO LET THE LEGAL PORTION OF IT PLAY OUT AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S BEEN DELAYED NOW UNTIL EARLY JEWEL.

THERE'S POTENTIAL THAT SOME BODY CAM FOOTAGE WILL BE RELEASED AND I THINK THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL.

>> WE COULD CALL OURSELVES BACK INTO ANOTHER ETHICS COMMITTEE MEETING SOONER IF WE HAVE RELEVANT INFORMATION THAT COMES OUT LIKE THE BODY CAM.

>> Mary: SENATOR MITCHELL HAS MADE IT CLEAR SHE DOES NOT INTEND TO RESIGN SO THERE WILL NOT BE A SPECIAL ELECTION IN NOVEMBER FOR HER SEAT BUT THERE IS A SPECIAL ELECTION FOR A SENATOR RUNNING FOR CONGRESS AND THAT ELECTION WILL DECIDE CONTROL AT THE CAPITOL, ESPECIALLY IN THE SENATE.

>> THE DFL PARTIES THAT HAVE SHIFTED SO I HAVE THEIR MESSAGING, KEN MARTIN'S STATEMENT, GOVERNOR WALZ' STATEMENTS, SOME OF OUR SENATE COLLEAGUES, THOSE THINGS SHIFTED AFTER SESSION.

>> IT'S INTERESTING THAT A LOT OF THE DEMOCRATS ERE SAYING DURING SESSION THAT WE HAD TO LET DUE PROCESS PLAY OUT AND THEN AS SOON AS SESSION WAS OVER, THE DEMOCRATS WERE SAYING THAT SHE SHOULD RESIGN SO I THINK THAT'S THE POLITICAL DYNAMIC THAT HAS SHIFTED NOW THAT SESSION IS OVER AND THERE WERE NO MORE VOTES TO BE TAKEN.

>> AS A DOCTOR, YOU HAVE TO BE A TRUTH-TELLER.

>> Mary: WITH THE RESIGNATION OF STATE SENATOR KELLY MORRISON TO RUN FOR CONGRESS AGAINST FORMER LAWMAKER TAD JUDE -- >> I'VE LED A LIFE OF PUBLIC SERVICE.

>> Mary: THE SENATE IS NOW TIED 33-33 WITH NO MAJORITY UNTIL AFTER A NOVEMBER SPECIAL ELECTION.

>> THE SENATE IS IN A TIE.

DOES THIS MEAN YOU CANNOT A HAVE A SPECIAL SESSION IF THERE IS AN EMERGENCY BECAUSE NOTHING CAN GET DONE IN THE SENATE?

>> WE COULD HAVE A SPECIAL SESSION IF GOVERNOR WALZ CALLED US BACK FOR A SPECIAL SESSION.

IT WOULD FORCE THE DEMOCRATS TO WORK TOGETHER WITH THE REPUBLICANS WHICH IN REALITY SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED ANYWAYS.

THAT'S WHAT THE PEOPLE OF MINNESOTA WANT.

>> LET'S GET BACK TO THE BASICS.

>> Mary: ENDING ONE-PARTY CONTROL WILL BE A KEY ASPECTS OF THE SINGLE SENATE SPECIAL ELECTION FEATURING CANDIDATES WHO HAVE RUN BEFORE.

ONE OF THE DEMOCRATS HAS WON BUT RETIRED.

>> I HAVE A MASTER'S DEGREE IN FRICKIN' PAVEMENT.

>> Mary: AND LAST ELECTION, THE DFL HAD A 12 PERCENTAGE POINT MARGIN OF VICTORY.

STILL, THIS COULD SET AN ALL-TIME SPENDING RECORD, SOMETHING THE FORMER CAUCUS LEADER WOULD ONCE BE DECIDING.

>> AS A RANK AND FILE MEMBER, I AM NO LONGER INVOLVED ON THE CAMPAIGN SIDE OF THINGS.

>> Mary: POLITICALLY, DO YOU THINK THE MITCHELL CASE WOULD BE RELEVANT IN THE SPECIAL ELECTION?

>> I THINK THE MITCHELL SITUATION ALONG WITH ANY OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN OUR STATE AND THE COUNTRY ARE VERY RELEVANT IN ANY SPECIAL ELECTION RIGHT NOW, WHETHER IT'S IN MINNESOTA OR ANY OTHER STATES.

>> Mary: AND DO YOU EXPECT TO COMPETE IN THAT?

IT'S CONTROL OF THE SENATE AT STAKE IN ONE SPECIAL ELECTION.

>> ABSOLUTELY, I EXPECT IT TO BE A GOOD RACE.

>> Mary: IN THE HOUSE, WHERE PARTY CONTROL IS ALSO AT STAKE WITH ALL 134 MEMBERS STANDING FOR ELECTION, VARIOUS GROUPINGS ARE USING SENATOR MITCHELL'S LEGAL ISSUES AS CAMPAIGN FODDER.

IS SNEAD >> ERIC: ANOTHER BUSY SUMMER WEEK OF POLITICS SO LET'S JUMP RIGHT IN WITH OUR COUCH FULL OF POLITICAL ANALYSTS.

DFLERS UP FIRST TONIGHT.

FORMER SENATE MINORITY LEADER, SUSAN KENT, AND WITH HER, POLICY DIRECTOR AT UNIDOS MINNESOTA, SARA LOPEZ.

REPUBLICANS ON THE COUCH, FORMER SENATE MAJORITY LEADER AMY KOCH HERE WITH US, AND FORMER LEGISLATIVE STAFFER TURNED LOBBYIST AND STAND-UP COMEDIAN BRIAN MCDANIEL.

SENATOR KOCH, MITCHELL, MORRISON, SPECIAL ELECTION, WHERE IS IT ALL HEADED?

>> WELL, THERE'S ONE SEAT THAT HOLDS THE MINNESOTA SENATE FOR THE DFL.

AND ACTUALLY NOT ANYMORE BECAUSE THE RESIGNATION OF SENATOR MORRISON MEANS THAT THE SPLIT IN THE SENATE IS NOW 33-33.

AND IN THE SENATE, EVERYTHING DIES ON A TIE.

THERE IS NO TIE-BREAKER.

AND SO WHILE THAT SEAT LEANS LEFT, OR LEANS, I THINK, LIGHT BLUE, IT DOES HAVE A REPUBLICAN HOUSE MEMBER AND A DFL HOUSE MEMBER SO DON'T SLEEP ON THE SENATE THIS SESSION.

WHAT IT MEANS IS, I THINK EVERYBODY WAS SAYING, EVERYTHING'S ABOUT THE HOUSE, WITH ONLY 4 SEATS BUT BOY, OH BOY, THE SENATE JUST GOT HOT.

>> Eric: YOU'VE CALLED FOR SENATOR MITCHELL TO STEP DOWN.

WHERE IS THE STATE OF PLAY IN THIS THING?

>> Mary: AND YOU'RE NOT RUNNING, WE SHOULD JUMP IN THAT BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN ASKED TO RUN, THAT IS YOUR DISTRICT.

>> I AM NOT RUNNING AND, YEAH, AND I THINK IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, PART OF WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT WAS THE UNCERTAINTY IN OUR COMMUNITY AND ARE WE GOING TO BE RECOMMENDED, GIVEN THE TIMING AND AS SENATOR MORRISON REQUEST BY RESIGNING BY THAT DATE, NOW, THE SPECIAL ELECTION WILL BE ON THE GENERAL BALLOT BUT SENATOR MITCHELL DID NOT, IT'S ALL UP IN THE AIR AND NOW, YOU KNOW, THERE CONTINUE TO BE DELAYS ON HER CRIMINAL SITUATION AND NOW NOBODY KNOWS.

SO NEXT JANUARY IT MAY HAPPEN AND DEPENDING ON WHAT HIMSELF HARKS WOODBURY MIGHT NOT HAVE A SENATOR.

>> I THINK WE JUST SAW BASED ON THE ADS I ACQUIRED THAT SENATOR MITCHELL IS ON THE BALLOT BECAUSE NOW SHE'S BEING LINKED TO HOUSE CANDIDATES.

DID WE EXPECT THAT?

>> WELL, I MEAN -- I THINK -- >> YES.

>> I THINK FIVE MINUTES AFTER WE ALL GOT WORD OF WHAT HAPPENED, WE KNEW THIS WAS GOING TO BE THE -- >> Mary: IS IT RELEVANT, THOUGH, DOES WHAT THE SENATOR DID MATTER TO THE HOUSE AND -- >> YES.

FIRST OF ALL, SIN ECONOMY, REPUBLICANS PROBABLY THINK IT INOCULATES THEM ON PRESIDENT TRUMP A LITTLE BIT BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, DEMOCRATS REALLY LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF SAY THAT REPUBLICANS ARE THE PARTY OF LAWLESSNESS AND THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF UITE BRAZENLY, THE DEMOCRATS ALLOWED HER, SENATOR MITCHELL, TO CONTINUE TO VOTE AND THEN AS SOON AS SHE WASN'T USEFUL TO THEM, YOU KNOW, THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, DUE PROCESS AND ALL THE THINGS THAT WE HEARD ABOUT BEFORE, DIDN'T MATTER AS MUCH.

I ALSO THINK SHE SHOULD RESIGN.

>> AND I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS LIKE, EVERY SINGLE SIDE IS WAGING A WAR OF ATTRITION, RIGHT, OF LIKE LEGAL BATTLES LEFT AND RIGHT AND I THINK THAT THE WINNING HAND BELONGS TO WHOEVER IS ABLE TO ARTIC LATE A CLEAR VISION, WHAT THEY STAND FOR FOR THE FUTURE TO BE VERY HONEST.

>> Mary: WITH A PERSON NAMED BIDEN AND A PERSON NAMED TRUMP IN COURT, DOES IT MATTER IF A PERSON NAMED MITCHELL IS ALSO IN COURT?

ARE WHICH GETTING DESENSITIZED TO IT?

>> I THINK IT'S A DIFFERENT LEVEL BECAUSE OF THE TRIFECTA WITH THE DFL, THERE'S NO ARGUING THE DFL ARE IN CHARGE AND ALL THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, INCLUDING THIS ARE ALL DFL RELATED AND SO MINNESOTA LIKES -- I THINK A TREE EFFECT TAKE IS UNUSUAL FOR US.

WE LIKE SPLIT GOVERNMENT, WE'VE OFTEN BEEN SPLIT GOVERNMENT AND I THINK IN PARTICULAR, MINNESOTANS ARE GOING -- THEY ALSO BY THE WAY SEPARATE THE FEDERAL RACES FROM THE STATE RACES, AND THEY'RE SMART INFORMED VOTERS.

I THINK IT WILL MATTER.

>> Eric: THE MINNESOTA HAS HAD AN ACTIVIST BIG GOVERNMENT SYSTEM AND I WONDER WHAT THESE THINGS FROM THE LEGISLATIVE AUDITOR THIS WEEK, I WONDER IF THAT REPRESENT YOU TAGS HAS BEEN DENTED FOR DEMOCRATS.

SEEMS LIKE THERE'S PROBLEM WITH OVERSIGHT.

>> FIRST OF ALL, THESE THINGS HAPPEN UNDER DIFFER LEADERSHIP AND IT SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED, THE FEEDING OUR FUTURE AND THE WORKERS ISSUE, YOU KNOW, THOSE THINGS ARE NOT OKAY AND I THINK EVERYBODY AGREES THAT'S NOT OKAY AND WE NEED TO DO BETTER.

BUT THOSE WERE ALSO BOTH EMERGENCY RESPONSES IN DIFFICULT TIMES AND, YOU KNOW, CHANGES ARE BEING MADE TO TRY TO ADDRESS THEM AND -- >> THERE CAN'T BE ANYTHING MORE IMPORTANT FOR A LEGISLATOR OR A GOVERNOR TO DO THAN BE A GOOD STEWARD OF THE PEOPLE'S MONEY AND THAT HAS BEEN PROVEN TO NOT BE HAPPENING.

NOW, WE CAN ALL SAY WHOSE FAULT IT WAS AND WHO COULD HAVE CAUGHT WHAT BUT THE TRUTH IS, UNDER DFL MANAGEMENT, THAT THESE THINGS DID HAPPEN AND I THINK THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF EXCUSE MAKING AND ALMOST, YOU KNOW, TURNING A BLIND EYE, NOT WANTING IS TO BELIEVE THAT THESE THINGS WERE BEING HALT FRAUDULENTLY.

>> Mary: IT'S COMPLICATED, THIS IS A FEDERAL PROGRAM THAT THE STATE WAS PAYING OUT, DO ALL THOSE SINK OUT TO THE VOTERS, CAN THAT BE COMMUNICATED?

>> I DON'T THINK WE'RE SAYING THAT ACCOUNTABILITY IS NOT IMPORTANT.

WHAT HAPPENED WAS CRIMINAL, THEY WERE STEALING FROM, LIKE, CHILDREN, BUT -- AND THERE IS A PROCESS IN PLACE AND I THINK WE BOTH AGREE THAT WHOEVER -- LIKE CRIMINALS HAVE TO BE BROUGHT TO JUSTICE.

>> THE LEGISLATIVE AUDITOR, BY THE WAY, THE GOLD STANDARD FOR NONPARTISAN AUDITING, I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE, WE'RE SO GRATEFUL -- JIM SNOWMOBILES AND NEWSPAPER THE CURRENT AUDITOR, THEY'RE OUTSTANDING, RIGHT, SO THAT SAID, IT WASN'T A SIMPLE CRIMINAL MATTER.

THIS WAS LIKE -- ACTUALLY SHE WAS VERY VOCAL ABOUT HOW THIS ADMINISTRATION, MDE MESSED UMM, DIDN'T CALL THE F.B.I., ACTUALLY, UNTIL THE F.B.I.

CONTACTED THEM, SHE WAS VERY CLEAR.

AND ALSO THE FRONT-LINE WORKER, 40% UNVERIFIED, 40% OF THE CHECKS PAID OUT WERE UNVERIFIED.

NOW, WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT A FRONT-LINE WORKER, LIKE AN EMERGENCY ROOM NURSE WHO REALLY IS SORT OF THE PICTURING OF WHAT THE FRONT-LINE WORKER SHOULD BE TO RECEIVE THIS, RECEIVES LESS WHEN 40% OF THE PEOPLE GET IT ARE UNVERIFIED.

THAT WAS ONE POT OF MONEY THAT WAS DIVIDED BY EVERYBODY WHO GOT IT.

>> BUT ONE OF THE THINGS -- >> SO UNFAIR TO THEM.

>> ON THE ISSUE WITH THE DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION, I THINK IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE IN THE YEARS LEADING UMM TO THAT I REMEMBER VIVIDLY THE FORMER SENATE EDUCATION CHAIR KARLA NELSON REPEATEDLY TRYING TO GUT THE STAFFING AT THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.

I MINE, SO IT'S -- WE'VE NOT BEEN ADDING, WE'VE NOT BEEN GROWING, THE AGENCY -- >> DIVIDED GOVERNMENT.

>> FOR $250 MILLION -- [Overlapping Conversation] >> THIS HAPPENED UNDER DIVIDED GOVERNMENT, THOUGH, DID IT NOT?

>> BUT CERTAINLY NOT AT THE -- AT THE EXECUTIVE EVEL.

NO.

AND I THINK THAT IF YOU HAVE GOVERNMENT THAT IS NOT ACCOUNTABLE TO THE PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO SUPPORT GROWING THAT GOVERNMENT.

WE'RE LOSING EVEN MORE -- >> Mary: THE PEOPLE VOTED FOR DEMOCRATS.

>> NECESSITY DID, THEY DID, NOW WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK BACK AND SAY, OKAY, AS THAT A SMART CHOICE.

IS THAT WHAT WE WANT?

>> Mary: IS THIS BAD FOR DEMOCRATS ON THE BALLOT?

>> WELL, I THINK -- WELL, I HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT REGULATION IS GREATLY IMPORTANT AND I THINK FOR DEMOCRATS, THERE IS SOMETHING WE LIKE IS OUR INSTITUTIONS FINANCINGS ONCE.

IF THE ATTENTION INSTITUTION KNOT GETTING FUNDED, YOU CANNOT DO YOUR JOB, YOU CANNOT RUN YOUR JOB ON A SHOESTRING BUDGET.

>> Eric: MINNESOTA POLL, BIDEN AND TRUMP CLOSE, SEEMS LIKE PRETTY SUBSTANTIALLY MORE ENTHUSIASM FOR TRUMP THAN BIDEN.

JILL BIDEN WAS IN DULUTH YESTERDAY.

ARE DEMOCRATS WRINGING THEIR HANDS HERE OR -- >> WELL, YOU KNOW, DEMOCRATS ARE NOTORIOUSLY BED-WETTERS ABOUT THESE THINGS BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT OLLS IN JUNE DON'T NECESSARILY REALLY PREDICT THE FUTURE AND I THINK PEOPLE WILL BE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE ALL 10 ACTIVE WHEN IT BECOMES CRYSTAL CLEAR AND PEOPLE ARE FOCUSING ON IT.

>> IT'S GOING TO BE A HUGE PROBLEM FOR BIDEN, JUST LIKE HILLARY CLINTON WHEN THERE WAS ONE POINT BETWEEN HER AND FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP, IT'S BECAUSE SHE SEVERELY UNDERFORMED AND JOE BIDEN IS SEVERELY NDERPERFORMING.

AND TRUMP CAN WIN EVEN HERE IN MINNESOTA.

>> RIDING THE ROLLER COASTER, WE THOUGHT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A RED WAVE AND THERE WASN'T, AND YES, THERE IS A BIT OF DISOH DAMAGES, WE'RE IN UNCHARTED TERRITORY BUT I DO THINK THE DEMOCRATS HAVE DELIVERED ENOUGH FOR THE STATE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HOLD ON TO THE TRIFECTA.

>> LET'S REPUBLICAN, DONALD TRUMP DOESN'T HAVE TO WIN MINNESOTA IN ORDER FOR REPUBLICANS AT THE STATE LEVEL TO BENEFIT IF HE DOES WELL IN WINONA, UP NORTH.

>> Mary: THE POLLS SAID THE MAJORITIES OF VOTERS IN MINNESOTA SAID HE WAS DISQUALIFIED, REALLY, BECAUSE OF THE CRIPPLE UNTIL CASE.

THAT WASN'T GOOD FOR HIM IN MINNESOTA, WAS IT?

>> AND THIS WEEK WE'VE GOT REPUBLICANS WHO ARE CHALLENGING IVF AND CONTRACEPTION.

I MEAN, THIS IS GOING TO BE A VERY CRITICAL RACE AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO TUNE IN AND THEY'RE GOING TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT THE REAL -- >> I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE THE ISSUE THAT THE DFL IS GOING TO RIDE ON.

>> Mary: WHEN YOU SAY IVF, ABORTION WAS MAYBE THE BIGGEST ISSUE LAST TIME.

IN THE POLLS SO FAR NOT SHOWING AS A BIG ISSUE.

>> POLITICAL OPERATIVE COX, I WANT YOU TO PUT ON YOUR VET HAT.

THIS IS A NEW TERM TO ME THIS WEEK, BE DOUBT HATER VOTERS.

>> THEY DISLIKE THEM BOTH, THEY ABSOLUTELY FEEL -- >> Eric: ARE THEY UP FOR GRABS -- >> I DON'T -- I THINK THAT -- I THINK --S AND THIS IS THE PROBLEM ALSO FOR BIDEN.

I THINK A LOT OF THEM STAY HOME.

I THINK A LOT OF THE DOUBLE HATERS SAY, I REFUSE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN THESE TWO CANDIDATES.

I DO NOT ACCEPT THEM.

I DIDN'T LIKE THEM FOUR YEARS AGO AND I WAS FORCED TO CHOOSE AND I WILL NOTES CHOOSE- >> Mary: BUT IF THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE IS DEMOCRACY, GOING BACK TO ABORTION BEING A BIG ONE, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GREAT FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP.

>> AND EVERYBODY IS INCREDIBLY UNHAPPY AND EVEN THE ECONOMIC MARKERS MAKE US LOOK GOOD IN TERMS OF WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE ECONOMY, PEOPLE STILL DON'T FEEL THEY'RE DOING GREAT.

HOWEVER, WHOEVER ARTICULATES THAT VISION OF HOPEFULNESS FOR THE FUTURE, THE VISION OF PROSPERITY WHICH WE DO REALLY WELL, I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT GIVES US THE UPPER HAND.

>> AND THIS IS WHERE THE ENTHUSIASM GAP THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT EARLIER REALLY MATTERS, BECAUSE IF EVERYONE'S UNHAPPY, IT'S LIKE WHO'S GOING TO HOLD THEIR NOSE AND GO TO THE POLLS MORE AND THAT'S WHAT THE DEMOCRATS HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT.

>> Mary: THAT DIDN'T WORK FOR TRUMP LAST TIME, WHEN PEOPLE DIDN'T LIKE EITHER PERSON.

>> NOT IN 2018, NOT IN... [Overlapping Conversation].

>> Eric: NORTH DAKOTA BALLOT MEASURE, UPPER AGE LIMIT FOR CONGRESSIONAL CANDIDATES, YOU WEREN'T RUN FOR CONGRESS IN NORTH DAKOTA IF YOU TURN 81 DURING YOUR TERM.

>> I'M A BIG LEAVER THAT PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO VOTE FOR DID YOU MEAN CANDIDATES IF NOTE SO -- FOR DUMB CANDIDATES AS YOU WANT.

AS MUCH AS I'M BEING PROVEN WRONG, MAYBE IS THERE SHOULD BE AGE LIMITS, I DON'T LIKE THEM BUT PEOPLE SHOULD BE IS THAT RIGHTER ABOUT WHO THEY VOTE FOR.

>> ANYBODY LIKE IT?

>> I THINK PEOPLE SHOULD RETIRE WHEN THEY NEED TO RETIRE.

>> Mary: VOTER TURNOUT IS KIND OF A TERM LIMIT, ISN'T IT IN MINNESOTA?

>> WE NEED PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO CHALLENGE INCUMBENTS, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S... [Overlapping Conversation].

>> VICE PRESIDENTIAL -- WHO'S THE VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE FOR NOT TRUMP?

>> OH, I THINK IT'S -- MIGHT BE NORTH DAKOTA, BURGHUM.

>> HE WROTE A BIG CHECK.

>> AS GOES NORTH DAKOTA, SO GOES THE NATION.

>> Eric: I'M GETTING THE HOOK.

SEE YOU GUYS.

>> BEFORE YOU GET ALL PUFFED UP WITH CIVIC RIDE, YOU HAVE TO POINT OUT THAT THE MINNEAPOLIS TAP DANCE RECORD HAS BEEN SHATTERED SEVERAL TIMES.

OH, BACKING UP ON ME.

MOST RECENTLY, IT WAS... >> Eric: STILL PACKING UP N ME.

IT WAS LIKE YESTERDAY BUT WE MOVE ON.

LET'S SEE HOW WELL E DO WITH THE INDEX FILE QUESTION TONIGHT.

WE'VE GOT THE QUESTION AND ANSWERS QUEUED UP FOR YOU.

LAST WEEK'S EFFORT IS ONE OF OUR PATENTED MYSTERY PERSON QUERIES.

HE OR SHE WAS BORN IN THE EARLY 1900S ON THE IRON RANGE OF MINNESOTA BUT LIVED IN CALIFORNIA BY THE TIME THEY REACHED HIGH SCHOOL.

AFTER EARNING A BUSINESS DEGREE FROM STANFORD IN THE 1930S AND TWO DECADES IN THE FAMILY BUSINESS, A FEUD WITH A BROTHER LED OUR MYSTERY PERSON TO VENTURE OUT ON THEIR OWN.

TO THIS DAY, THAT "NEW" BRAND CARRIES THEIR NAME.

WHO IS THIS MYSTERY MINNESOTAN?

WRONG ANSWERS ALWAYS GET TOP BILLING.

>> Eric: IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE.

THOUSANDS O.THOSE FOUR ANSWERS MAKE UP ALL THE WRONG GUESSES WE GOT THIS WEEK.

NEARLY 30 OF YOU GOT THIS ONE RIGHT.

HERE'S A STAFF FAVE.

>> ERIC: YES, BILL, YOU ARE CORRECT AND WERE ONE OF MANY VIRGINIA MINNESOTA RESIDENTS TO CALL US.

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HE IS CREDITED WITH THE REBIRTH OF WINEMAKING IN NAPA VALLEY.

THERE'S MONDAVI ON HIS 90TH BIRTHDAY, JUST A FEW YEARS BEFORE HE DIED AT THE AGE OF 94.

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