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We are in a different location today as we gear up for the national holiday that is Mud Hens opening day.

It's a may or Monday edition of the 419.

We're going to be talking with the mayor of Pennsville, the president of the Mud Hens in Toledo, Walleye Joe Napoli.

And so we're going to be celebrating Mud Hens baseball.

It doesn't quite feel like baseball season yet, but that's what the early going is.

But this is without a doubt one of my favorite days of the year.

Absolutely.

This is the biggest day in our region.

It's pretty exciting to be here and be a part of it.

It's cool to be behind the scenes and to be in the Mud Hens studio today here when, as everyone's getting ready for working behind the scenes to get everything ready for tomorrow.

I've been working on the, turf, for months now, and I think I've got just about right.

Good.

You know, I remember so, you know, I worked for the hens for about eight years.

Was the PA announcer here, got a chance to become good friends with, Jake Tyler was the groundskeeper, during that time, and I. My favorite question to ask Jake and I would ask it all the time, and he was annoyed.

I was like, just remind me again what your home lawn looks like.

Disaster.

Complete disaster.

He was like, yeah, it was like.

It was just like, yeah, but he told me that the grass is the easy part.

Yeah.

Oh, sure.

It's the dirt.

Yeah, that's the hard part.

I guess.

I had some tips for him if I've had it.

I have a nickel for every time I said that.

But the the buzz around town, I think, is particularly heightened this year.

People are particularly excited about, this opening day, the beloved Mud Hens that is one of the iconic global brands here in our region.

It's not the only, it's it's a big deal.

So being here is pretty, pretty exciting.

Yeah.

This this is how we know we've made it.

That's right.

Is that we've got our 419 logo, on the screen here at fifth third Field.

We got figure how to get it on the big screen.

And Gretchen, you have been, baseball fan your whole life.

Your work.

Yeah.

So I know that you've been excited to be here.

Yeah.

If you.

What a who's your favorite baseball player of all time?

Dave smith.

He he is the best.

And what what did you like the most about?

Well, he well, a lot.

Let me let me ask let me ask some other baseball questions.

Yeah.

How many how many innings in a game?

There are 13 innings.

That's right.

Nope.

Yep.

That's exactly.

That's the way Dave.

19.

There's nine.

Nine innings.

That's right.

All right, so it was an odd number.

Yeah.

How many players don't ask you that.

How many, how many they get seven point that I get.

How many players in the field at one time.

On defense nine.

That is correct.

Nine.

And innings for nine players.

That's not why it is.

All right.

I do have a lot of buttons.

Gear.

Yes you do.

We are right.

And I do like to support the brand.

We are all fully the only thing that I'm asked to do in this world.

Yeah, we're all fully geared up.

Yeah.

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Welcome back into the 419 Amare Monday edition of the 408 team.

We'll be talking with the mayor of Hinesville, Joe Napoli, in just a little bit.

But right now we've got the play by play voice on TV, radio, internet, out in space for the Mud Hens and the walleye.

Matt.

Mel.

Zach.

Yeah, I'm just back from the Artemis two mission.

Yeah.

So, yeah, I was up there, went around the moon, called a couple of games from there.

They play great baseball.

You know the backside of that.

Yeah that rocket lag is not too bad on the fly.

It doesn't doesn't bother me at all.

No I feel confident that I could hit a home run on the moon.

It depends on where the level of the fence is though.

Yeah.

Okay, guys, got a couple of them back on.

You're on the moon.

This isn't a science show.

It's like Colorado.

You got to move them back.

So, Matt, you are the the play by play voice.

For the Mud Hens.

But let's let's kind of go back and talk about where are you from?

How did you how did you get here?

Yeah, well, I grew up here in the, in the northwest Ohio area.

And then, you know, really got play by play.

Didn't really get into that until, you know, I'd already gotten out of college, and I did a little bit, at the University of Toledo there, you know, some of the women's basketball games, a little bit of the football games where the college first guy doing that now, well, well, I they probably said that about me when I was there, too.

So what's great to remind mad is I'm not the play by play guy.

Yeah, so it's Jim Heller.

That guy is great.

Yeah, that's a hell.

Or is I just want to make sure he's been fantastic.

Yeah, you knew where they make way better than I did.

Any games there?

Back in those days, but, you know, got got started.

I did, I did a year Bowling Green hockey because, I got to know Scott Pollock a little bit, and he was their coach.

They didn't have anyone doing a game.

So he asked me, would you come down and do our games?

I'm like, sure, I'll.

I'll give it a shot.

And then, you know, from there ended up, getting in with the Toledo Storm the next year, did four years there and then, came over here to do the Toledo Walleye and then kind of fill in a little bit here on the baseball side.

And, 2012, started going in and doing all the home games with Jim Weber.

And then until obviously, he passed and then have taken over since that.

I mean, being a Toledo guy, being the, the play by play voice, being in the broadcast booth for the mud ends, I mean, it's two of the most iconic minor league baseball announcers in the history of the sport.

We're here in Toledo with Frank Gillooly and Jim Weber to to sit in that seat.

What does that mean to you?

And it meant a lot.

And I remember just, talking with our GM, Eric Gibson, after Jim Weber passed, and I did the rest of that season, a couple of years ago.

And I said to him, you know, and it was only a couple of weeks after.

And I said, look, I really want to be the next voice.

I want to take over for Jim and Jim meant a lot to me.

We got we developed quite a friendship over that, you know, 12 to 13 years.

And it just it was taking over for a legend is very difficult and extremely difficult and still is to this day.

But I just wanted to I just felt like it was right.

And and luckily for me, they agreed.

And I get that opportunity to do as many baseball games as I can.

Mixing in with the hockey a we ask this, episodically, if anyone, of sort of your neck of the woods comes in when you think about who you're broadcasting to, who who are the people you envision?

Actually, you know what?

I don't envision anyone.

I just call the game.

And, you know, I mean, sure, I think there's obviously people listening.

We know that.

Yeah.

And they're listening to every word that I'm saying, but I, I look at it as I'm trying to describe the game as best as I can.

Okay.

And whether that is, you know, what's going on statistically in the game, what's actually happening in the game where the count is, what the score is.

I always try to remind people of that as much as I possibly can, because you get a lot of people that are in and out of the games, you know, they walk by, whether it's the games on TV or if it's on radio, they're just tuning in in their car.

They want to hear what the score is.

And a lot of times, whether it's hockey, I do time and score baseball all its score and count.

You know, just to kind of update everything constantly.

And sometimes it can be a little bit repetitive.

But when you're doing when you're doing those things, then people are usually pretty happy with how the game.

So how did the two of you practice this?

Do you narrate in your bathing or driving just to keep yourself sharp?

What does, what does getting Ruxin look like?

For people of your scene?

You know what?

It's very interesting.

It's just doing as many games as you can.

I don't sit around practicing the.

The thing that I'll practice is names, because you get some tricky name, I bet.

And so you might have to go over and, you know, Kevin knows this from his play date.

Sometimes you got to go over a name about 50 times.

I believe it just to try to get it down.

There's going to be a guy that's going to throw you off somewhere.

And you know what?

You still might be in the middle of the game, and all of a sudden you look down at it and you go, it's a misfire.

Oh, crap.

I, you know, even if you wrote it out phonetically, you're like, oh my God.

And we're saying your name right?

It's Matt.

Yes.

Yeah, yeah.

You got my name down, Matt.

Which is good.

Luckily I got a pretty simple name, but yeah it is.

Some of them will trip you up.

What's your game day preparation?

What do you what do you do to get ready before a game for before game?

Well, usually I start by looking at standings and statistics and I'll.

I'll start there.

You know, and then I'll build out from that that area of it.

I'll look and see what players are doing.

And then I start looking at rosters and then I start looking at, okay, who have I seen before?

Where have they been before?

Have they been in Triple-A before?

What's been their career path?

And I look each guy up and what's the what have they done.

You know starting in rookie ball out.

And it's just it's just nonstop looking at numbers really.

And maybe histories on guys.

Where were they drafted out of college.

You know, did they pitch in college where they straight to high school from high school.

There's so many little nuances.

So you got a system do you used to have in front of you during the game to have easy access to that?

Well I usually write a lot of stuff out.

I'm kind of old school.

I like to write down a lot of things and, you know, but now with technology, you get very quick where you can just if you need to, you can look a guy up pretty fast.

And even with our portal that we have the game day up where you see, you know, who's a bad who's pitching, you can click on the guy and it takes you right to his statistical career.

So if you need to access something quickly, it can happen in a matter of seconds.

At certainly at the minor league baseball level, you do more with less, from a staffing standpoint.

So I know that you've got certainly fewer people involved in a broadcast, you know, here in Toledo than you'd have up in Detroit.

But why don't you kind of talk about what who all is behind the scenes with you while you're doing a broadcast?

You know, it's very interesting.

I think we have a great set.

When we do the television of directors, I think it starts with them, right out of the gate.

They do a great job of painting the picture that you see on TV, because ultimately, when we're doing the game for TV and radio, obviously I got to be more descriptive for radio.

But on TV, they do such a great job of showing all the nuances that's going on in the game, whether you can see a guy leaning off of first base and they'll go to that if he's starting to really lean and you know, it gives our analyst an opportunity to go, man, he looks like he's ready to go and then you can throw in.

Well, he is three for four on stolen bases this year or seven for eight or whatever.

You know he's a guy you've got to watch out for.

And then they take that and run with it.

And I think that's where it starts.

Obviously we got a great crew overall.

We produce a broadcast and I see some of the other ones from around triple AA.

They're nowhere close to what we do here.

We do is close to a major league broadcast as, as any team in the league.

And I think we're the gold standard when it comes to, Triple-A broadcasts.

So we've got opening day tomorrow.

It'll be Toledo's first chance to see, the boys of Summer play at home.

Why don't you talk to us a little bit?

About what?

The kind of early season has looked like, and then, you know, introduce us to who we're going to get a chance to meet tomorrow.

I think obviously, the biggest name that everyone's going to be looking at is Max Clarke.

Obviously he's one of the top prospects in all of baseball.

I think the one great thing that I've seen about him so far is his patience, his ability at the plate to work, walks.

He works counts.

You know, he's had a little trouble with some of the veteran pitchers.

They can obviously, they should probably be in the major leagues if there was extra teams there.

You know, sometimes a guy just doesn't have a fit, depending on where they're at.

But I mean, he can he can hit the baseball.

He makes some great plays in the outfield.

He had a diving catch last week in Syracuse.

It was unbelievable.

You know, he he has he has all the tools.

You can certainly see the question I'd like to ask you your thoughts on him as a prospect for the majors.

Sounds great.

Yeah.

Okay.

So to you see, there you go.

If he was at the plate with a full count.

Yeah.

What is the.

That means he has two outs and three balls.

That's right.

That's not correct.

Just keep going.

It is.

It is.

Three balls.

Two strikes, two strikes.

Saying numbers out loud.

Numbers are correct.

Three and two.

That's good.

Yeah, yeah, I mean it it is possible that there would be two outs.

Yeah with a four.

But you know, I don't know what I meant.

Yeah that's right I know exactly where you, where you were going.

But I think it's a, I think it's a very interesting lineup for the Monahans right now.

When Sal Perez was great last year for the Tigers, a really good player.

And he's here in Triple-A because of how good they have been.

So, you know, I mean, you've got a lineup that's got a lot of good players in it.

And I think that's that's going to be a carrying forged.

Plus, you got some good arms this year with veterans like Brian Salmons.

But then you look at Carter Montero for sure.

That's some good arms.

Yeah.

And I think that's going to carry this a little real quick, this layout.

If people aren't familiar with where the Mud Hens live in the baseball world.

Right?

ABC I think they know that, you know, we're the farm team for Detroit.

Right.

But what are the teams below and kind of what are those different.

So obviously you have Toledo at the Triple-A level and you go down, you got Erie, a Double-A Erie, Pennsylvania.

Then you have West Michigan, Grand Rapids is the Single-A affiliate, the High-A version, the Low-A version is Lakeland, where they do spring training.

So that and then, you know, obviously you got the rookie ball complex leagues, that they do in Florida, but that's later in the summer.

So, those are the main for when you're talking about the minor leagues.

And obviously Toledo is the top one.

That's why we see so much up and down with.

Sure, right over the course of the year.

So Matt, obviously you are a real professional here.

But I do have to ask you, it would be impossible for me to not become a, by standard, or a fan.

How do you stay disciplined in the booth to not become just a. Yeah, an observer.

You know, it's a very interesting point because obviously, growing up being, being a hands guy, a Detroit guy, you know, obviously I'm rooting for the organization to do very well.

But, I mean, you have to call the game as the game is right.

And and sometimes you have certain points in a game where somebody does something great on the other side and you got to acknowledge it.

If it's a great play, it's a great play.

Yeah.

You know, obviously I'm going to lean more towards the Toledo side all the time.

Yeah.

But I'm also going to acknowledge if, you know, if a guy throws a no hitter against us.

Yeah.

Right.

I mean you have to talk about how great he was, but just did that happen just remembering to talk, right?

I mean, you are you are a fan.

You're a sports nut.

So I would have difficulty just not watching on occasion, you know, taking up in a moment to your human being.

Yeah, yeah.

And sometimes you do get kind of caught up a little bit in the moment, but for some reason I've been able to take it and say, okay, I'm, I know I have to be in in this point.

Yes, sir.

And sometimes I do like to let the crowd carry something.

You get a good home run.

I might just call it and let it be.

Let it be.

And you and you let the kind of let the game breathe a little bit.

And it's one great thing with baseball.

What do you do in some of the big moments and exciting moments and a lot of the clips of the UConn game, the bucket that that went in, went viral of the announcers and the families and everyone reacting to that.

Do you do you have a camera on you?

Are you prepared to hold on to those big, exciting moments nowadays?

They do have a camera on you pretty much all the time.

So I mean, if I do a reaction, someone's going to see it somewhere.

And you know, obviously they could use it if they wanted.

But, you know, I, I pretty much stay like I am.

I mean, I'm an and I'm an animator.

I talk with my hands.

We couldn't tell.

Yeah, as we've gone through the interview.

But I'll do that while I'm broadcasting, too, but I don't I don't go, like, even when I call a big home run.

It's not like I'm fist bumps in the air.

Or, you know, I might once in a while give, you know, something like that.

But most of the time it just I let my voice take it.

I mean, to that point, I mean, there's some iconic calls in, in sports over the years.

Is there a signature call that you have for, yeah.

For a home run or a strikeout or are you got to have, you know, kind of loaded in the chamber, a walk off home run.

This is what Mel Zach's going to say.

You know what?

And that in that moment, that's where I will call it as a home run.

And and a lot of times it's just, you know, hits a home run or, you know, it's gone.

And then I'll let it.

I'll let it play.

I want to let the crowd, especially if it's a walk off.

We had a couple we had a bunch last year.

We had ten walk offs, here at Third Field last year.

And so you got a lot of opportunities to call some good walk off moments.

But a lot of times I like to let the crowd take that.

I'll make my call.

And then it's gone and I let them carry it.

You know, you get a great crowd here and they're going crazy for a walk off win.

Now I let them handle it.

If you had to, have you had a fumble like a synapse misfire?

That's something that you still wake up in the middle of the night.

Yes, but I probably shouldn't talk much.

Oh, you got it.

Okay.

Yeah, it's probably just, we should bring it up.

Yeah, you got it.

I had, and I mean, I when I was announcing here, I don't even remember who.

Like who.

We had some major league player that was down on rehab and everything for me went wrong that day.

Oh, God.

I mean, like, every batter, I was one player off or I mispronounce a name.

I mean, he was I think if we were keeping, I would have struck it out, in the first inning.

Right.

It was it was bad, but it was just like some of those days.

It's just like, okay, this is not going to be the day.

Let's just get to the finish line.

And, you know, on the field the players will have those two, right?

Yep.

But it's like, all right, let's just get this thing over with.

And, and there's nowhere for you guys to hide.

No.

Yeah, yeah.

We have a bad day.

You have a bad day.

Sometimes you just got to chalk it up to, to a bad day.

Because I'll have them, too.

What about the future of your role?

What about that?

Are there students that approach you, or are you involved with the.

Have any interns or anyone that someone wants to to kick you out and take your job?

Next?

We have we have a lot of folks over the course of the year.

I have a lot of, you know, whether it's, high school kids or college kids that'll come in, they'll want to shadow.

Yeah.

Kind of see how we do the Brogdon.

So they can learn.

And I've done it too I you know I just was up at the Detroit Red wings game a few weeks ago.

I was hanging out with Ken Cal and just watching how he did everything.

The radio voice for the Red wings, just to kind of learn and and see something different.

And, you know, I think I have no problem with it, as many that that do reach out to me.

I'll have, people all year.

I think we saw it in the Olympics, you know, broadcasting sporting events in a different country than where it took place.

Do you guys traveled every game?

Well, we go in and out.

I do a little bit of a hybrid there.

So whether it's, you know, I'll do some remote and some in person.

And, we did do the finals last year for hockey was up in Canada while Revere went there and, got to speak French.

A little extra, but I probably wanted to, but, you know, you got it.

You got to start at least with.

Sure.

Right.

And then and then go from there.

But yeah, that's pretty cool to see.

So we have a pretty big French following.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I figured as much in real big titles.

Yeah, yeah I learned Bollinger and English.

Yeah.

That's right.

You know just to say hey, can you speak English?

Yeah.

Let's go to America.

It's the bottom of the ninth year of this interview.

It's now time for Gretchen's wacky quiz.

I'm going to ask you for rapid fire questions.

Gretchen is going to ask you for your favorite thing in or about Toledo.

And then you and Matt are going to work together to describe Toledo in exactly nine words.

All right.

Okay, here we go.

Question number one.

What's your Social Security number and your mother's maiden name?

You catch a foul ball?

I don't know either.

You catch a foul ball with your bare hand.

Are you acting cool?

Are you screaming in pain immediately?

Oh, I'm acting cool.

All right.

I might try to play it off.

Yeah?

Yeah.

If you had to eat only one ballpark food for the rest of your life, what would it be?

You got to start with a hot dog.

Okay, you throw out the first pitch here at fifth third field.

Are you going to practice all week or just wing it?

I'm.

I'm a prepared person.

I'll practice all week long.

I'll be throwing so much, my arm will be, fall off.

I've got, it.

Is it more embarrassing to swing and miss or to not swing at all at a perfect pitch?

I think it's.

I think it's more embarrassing to swing a miss.

All right.

What is your number one most favorite thing about the city of Toledo?

I hands down, I love the parks area.

No, I'm not just playing that off.

I love doing that.

I go out to the skating trail, all the time, I do, I love going, I take my kids to Wildwood.

We, you know, we're out in the parks an awful lot.

So it is one of the great things that I love about Toledo.

Well, that's the show, folks.

Thanks very much for your honesty that night.

Was that nine words that I get in?

Matt, I forgot, how smart and handsome you are, right there.

There you go.

All right.

But it's you and me.

Nine words.

We're gonna do it together.

I'm gonna put Metroparks at the top of the list.

There you go.

I'll give you extra credit.

We'll give you two for that.

So that means we only have to work down to seven.

Okay.

Do it.

Seven.

I'll go to the zoo.

Zoo?

All right.

Next I will go to, Wow.

You know what I would say?

The restaurants.

We have restaurants for sure.

Now, you talked a lot about the community, so I'm going to put community down for you.

Your fans love it.

Yeah, absolutely.

Let him finish with 101 first the list.

Gretchen.

She's overbearing.

Hold on, hold on.

Wait.

I got two that I'm saving for.

That's exactly right.

Yeah.

I'm good.

I'm saving for the show.

Listen to this vulture.

Keep going.

I actually think there's, a lot of.

Especially with having younger kids.

There's a lot of great things for kids to do.

I agree with you.

That's a really.

You can put it down however you want to do it, whether it's Sylvania Playland, other places, you know, like there's a lot of really cool places, for kids like Huntington Center, Huntington Center in the last one, brother, bring me home.

Fifth, third field.

You got it.

And baseball.

Let's go.

Thanks, Matt.

Mel.

Zach, the play by play voice of your Toledo Mud Hens.

We are 24 hours away from opening day.

What's the first thing you're going to do tomorrow morning?

I'm going to drop my kid off at school, and then I'm going to come on down to the ballpark.

So it's going to be a lot of fun.

Looking forward to it.

Hi, guys.

Predictions.

How are we?

How are we finishing up the year?

I know I think will be I it's very difficult to get in the playoffs.

I can't say that, but I think we're going to have a very good season.

I think people are going to be excited again when we get to September and be pushed.

Remember, it's first half, second half.

So we got late June and then September.

You heard here first, Matt said they were going to win it all.

There we go.

Standing room only.

Tomorrow for opening day.

It's it will get you in.

So Edmunds.com, get your tickets.

We'll get you it.

Awesome.

Matt.

Mel.

Zach.

Thank you very much.

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Oh, brother Joe Napoli's I. We're going to start.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

Go ahead.

Theo, how's it going?

Thanks for joining us.

Well, I'm happy to be here.

Thanks for having us here.

Yeah, I was listening into the, you know, previous segment.

You guys know how to have a little bit of fun?

Yes, sir.

A little bit, but that's what this place is all about, right?

Joe is he can't come in here and not have fun.

Yeah, no I agree.

What are you most excited for?

For tomorrow.

Oh, having this interview be over pit.

Well, start.

We can start.

We can start there.

It's on the list.

So.

So the neatest thing about, opening day, in downtown Toledo is around, nine, 8:39 a.m.. The first tailgaters show up, they start cooking breakfast, and then by time, noon rolls in, you see everyone streaming into downtown finding their favorite watering hole.

And then about 2 to 3 hours before game time, it's, It's incredible.

It is mayhem.

It is intoxicating.

Yeah.

I mean, to think about, I mean, you when you started with the team.

Yeah, they were at the Lucas County Rec Center in Ned Sheldon Stadium, with bleachers that sometimes weren't all put together and working and concessions that weren't always cooking the way they were supposed to, to to see what this has become.

Was this the vision then?

So, so we we were hopeful, right?

We we did our homework.

We we saw, we understood what a new ballpark could do for a community.

Then we made the decision to really do it downtown because we wanted to see what would happen in that 3 to 4 block radius from fifth, third field.

And here we said, you know, 120 businesses that opened over the first decade.

So truly impactful.

The first opening day at Sheldon Stadium, that was probably the early 90s.

And we're hoping that someone will show up.

Yeah, sure.

And and, you know, we would have maybe 3 or 4000 people show up for opening day out at the net when, we purposely scheduled the first opening day here at 1:00 in the, in the afternoon because we wanted to see if we would get people to play hooky from work.

Yeah.

And they did.

Doesn't take much to do, doesn't take much to do that.

And and it worked.

So we wanted to be we wanted to become, you know, a must do event, you know, circle the calendar, when most people don't know is that of the 120 minor league teams, we are far and away the biggest and best opening day.

And that's not us saying it.

That's our our peer group saying, oh my God, you've got to go to Toledo for Opening Day just to see what it could be like.

And so, I mean, all my years of with this team and I did not know that this was not what every, you know, small to mid-sized.

I mean, obviously, I, I love Toledo and I know what we do here is special.

Yeah.

And I and I've been to you know, I remember when we won the Governor's Cup championship, we won it in 2005, 2004 or 5.

Isaiah six in Indianapolis.

Yeah.

And it felt like a home game in Indianapolis because enough of us went and there were almost more Mud Dance fans.

Yeah, there than there were Indians fans.

But before we get to the best opening day in 2026 here in downtown Toledo, yeah, go back to the 90s and you show up at at at the field out there.

How did you land there?

Where did you come from?

So we saw the Pinto, right?

I mean, you're not a young man.

Yeah.

That's right, that's right.

Yeah.

I, I love you most of the time.

Sure.

Yeah.

That's more than.

But it's not one of those guys.

So, so so, I graduated from Saint John's University.

I take, a job with Manufacturers Hanover Trust.

I'm on the fast track.

Money center bank.

Three years fly by and I'm like, I can't do this for 40 more years.

I'm just not having fun.

So, I pick up this book.

It's called What Color is Your Parachute?

It's about your skills, your hobbies, your interests, and it mashes it all together.

And I'm like, oh, light bulb goes off.

Why don't I pursue a career in sports?

I'm like, oh, everybody's going to be impressed with my background at the bank now.

Yeah, not so much.

So.

So it would be like, so I start calling people and saying, hey, can we chat?

And people were gracious enough to do that.

I end up in canton, Ohio.

I go from 11 million people to a town of 60,000.

It was fantastic.

Yeah, just that Midwestern culture.

People are thoughtful.

And yes, it or it, end up, sports illustrated does a cover story on minor league baseball.

Anchor story is Toledo Mud Hens charming, laugh out loud funny story.

Jean cook, Charlie Bracken and several other people that were board members were quoted throughout.

Great story.

Pick up the phone call.

Gene cook says, well, Joe, we're this little mom and pop operation and we're really not looking to hire anybody.

I said, 2.5 hours away, one hour each drive up, we go to lunch.

We hit it off, a couple weeks go by.

It tells me.

Well, we have an opening.

What he didn't tell me when I moved here was to play on team, but it's it's, you know, a left handed reliever.

I keep going because that's all what happens.

So he introduces me to the staff.

It's Carol Hamilton, the receptionist.

It's Patricia Hamilton, the bookkeeper.

And then he says, oh, and then there's me and you.

Yeah.

So I'm like, wow, when he when he mentioned I was literally just Mom and Pop.

Yes.

Yeah.

So it it was this wonderful, wonderful opportunity.

It was really, how minor league teams operate it back then.

Really they weren't the staff wasn't really that small in others.

But, you know, maybe.

Right.

They were 4 to 6 people we had.

I didn't realize that there wasn't a job opening window.

I mean, you saw in out Toledo.

It was Sports Illustrated, right?

Ask my wife that story, cherished my life.

Read his grandparents as well.

Yes.

Yeah.

At the risk of putting in a spot.

Yeah.

How do you have the energy for this?

Do you know?

I mean, it's not just the longevity here, but there's somebody that puts you in there.

Something to put you in that car.

That's something the an you to to make a change.

Because that's not easy.

You have 58 kids or something.

Like how do you what keeps your engine going.

How do you have this fortitude.

So, so I, I refer to that book.

Right.

What color is your parachute still in print.

The guy that wrote it, Roger Boles, keeps updating it.

I don't know if he's dead or alive, but the.

But the book keeps getting updated and the takeaway from that book is if you pursue something that you love, you know, you never work a day in your life.

And, I didn't quite believe that.

But then when that started to happen, I was like, wow, this this could really be the case.

And then, so I was in Toledo for a couple of years, ended up in Chicago with the Bulls, moved to Detroit, worked for the Tigers, but honestly, really wanted to get back here and then when Gene cook was sliding into retirement, they were talking about a new ballpark.

They said, hey, why don't you come back, get that project off the ground?

So I'm 36 years old, naive and wet behind the ears, and I'm like, sign me up.

The board of directors, Mike Miller, Dave Huey, Charlie Bracken, Gene cook at Berks.

Mark.

Sherwood.

Tim.

And are these people just embraced me and said, look, we'll give you the tools you need to succeed.

We don't expect you to have all the answers, on stock or as a board member, them to, and said, have at it.

And they surrounded me with great people.

And then the team we have, we have there's probably about ten people on our staff today that have been with us for 20 to 30 years.

Eric Gibson, Neil Newcomb, the the two that you would probably, all know.

They were with us through that whole process of staying major contributors from the idea of a ballpark downtown.

Yeah.

To the first game.

What was that timeframe.

So we had a failure, right?

It was about 5 or 6 years.

So the first year we floated this concept of fun for everyone, a water park to replace the ballpark and a ballpark somewhere in town.

That went down in defeat 6040.

In the aftermath.

We did.

We did it backwards.

We did all the homework afterwards.

And, you know, people told us, oh, we would have voted for the ballpark or which come up with this cockamamie idea for a water park that would only be used for 60 days.

And we're like, okay, thanks for that info.

We should have asked that first.

Sure.

Yeah.

So they probably would have voted for it.

We put together the financing and funding was roughly a $40 million project.

We had a small group of naysayers.

That group showed up at every town hall, every open.

Why are they always available?

And they are always of our schedules are free.

Yes, in perpetuity.

And we got clued in to that.

Understood it.

Quickly came to realize that this community leans in.

Like I said, 99, 95% of the people were like, how do we help, sir?

And then we were away, you know, often away.

Yeah.

There's a lot that has changed in in the gain in the business from, you know, when you first showed up in, in Miami, Ohio, to where we sit today, what's been the biggest challenges or the biggest learning curve for you?

So so Mike Miller, who's the chair of our board, said way back when he goes, hey, I only have one expectation that that's to be, excellent.

And everything we do and I was why is it good?

Thanks, Mike.

Is it the campaign?

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

So so, and then he said, but we'll provide you all the tools and resources to achieve those goals.

So, so when you start with that expectation for excellence, then it's simple, right?

You get people that believe the same thing and are striving for excellence at every turn.

And next thing you know, your luck starts to fall into place.

You create your own luck, sir, and then people want to be part of it, you know?

So the three of you were all very familiar with that, right?

Not the success part, but I. Right.

Coming from the Metroparks.

Right?

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah, that would be far.

Well, my dad was a crappy out failure.

So you failed at your dad?

Yep.

Your dad, Matt Imad, is to say that's what you did.

Water park, the metro parks and of this.

Yeah.

And of my pet.

Wow.

That is hurtful.

Yeah, they are, you are?

They're part of an outreach program to turn their lives around.

Joe.

Opening day tomorrow.

What what is the day start like for you so that it's got.

No, it's got everything.

Right.

So.

So it used to be I would do the circuit around downtown.

Circuit around the ballpark.

Just get a feel for everything that's going on.

Eric Gibson does that.

Now.

First thing in the morning, I get get up.

I thank my lucky stars.

I have a cup of coffee or 2 or 3 check in.

Yeah.

Check in, check in with Matt.

Make sure everything's okay.

But, Yeah.

It's easy.

It's a lot easier for me now.

I get to to to wander the downtown, and the facility sits in the ballpark, and it's kind of a good transition there.

I mean, you mentioned Eric.

We'll have him on the show tomorrow.

Yeah.

Good.

But talk to us about what the team looks like today.

I know you mentioned Eric and Neil.

Yeah.

And here.

But you got.

Yeah.

I mean, from from 4 to 70.

We have 70, full time, team members, seasonal.

We have about 300.

And then they all lean into what we call the ultimate fanatical experience.

We, we examine and measure everything.

If it occurs, we measure it, we look at it, and we try to improve upon it.

Really drives the company to success.

It's funny.

You know, if you place your fan first and your customers first, treat everybody like a guest.

Next thing you know, they become fans of your organization.

Or if I if I may, you've been, you know, extremely helpful to the Metroparks and many other institutions for your leadership and your input and your patients in your care.

So thank you on behalf of not just my agency, but others.

But I would like to ask you, when you think about, the your guests, which is an important way to describe them, who do you think about coming through the turnstiles here?

Who do you envision?

Is it your family?

Because you've got a great family.

I yeah, very great question.

So so what it comes down to is when you all you have to do is so here's what most people do.

They size up the audience based on people that look like them.

Yes.

As human nature.

Right, right.

So you see everyone that looks like you.

Yeah.

So it's just a handsome group.

That's what I see.

Just the great bone structure.

I just keep telling them, look, for you.

You are.

Yes I do.

I'm so sorry.

For everyone else that's listening.

And I think it's so.

So what we what we work really hard at is, is basically the see the diversity of the group that attend.

So it'll be it could be, you know, a family with, a first time, you know, it's a child might be six years old.

Yeah, seven years old to the singles group says the guys night out.

The girls night out might be, a family with, adult children.

You know, college age or adults.

And then we move through every generation until grandma and grandpa are coming as empty nesters or bringing the kids and the great grandkids.

And we take a look at that and we say, how do we make everyone feel like they're a guest in our home, sir?

And, the team works really hard at it.

It's really hard to do.

We would be the first to tell you we don't always get it right.

When we don't, we own it.

We fix it.

And it it's really that simple.

For the mud Hens in the Valley.

Organizations are both committed to the community.

Beyond getting people to the games.

You do a number of programs, with with kids to have them love baseball and have the opportunity to participate.

You do other things, here at the field, can you talk a little bit about some of those guys?

We're really we're really proud of our community engagement and initiatives.

We so a lot of sports organizations do it to build their future fan base.

So so that is one slice.

But what most people probably don't know, that is why if we get a request and it's for, someone that's underprivileged to take ballet lessons, we're all over it.

If it's, you know, music lessons, if it's, a program that allows someone who would not have, perhaps the advantages that our families know, we will lean into that.

And that won't languishing well funded.

The self-defense classes for justice for Sierra because it was a winter time indoor activity and that was the like.

But the I would say the I mean, excitingly, the low bar is like if it happens during hockey season, yeah, we want to be a part of it.

Yeah.

We really just want to enrich people's lives.

And it's Toledo like many communities, there's a lot of need, so, we can't fund every request, but we would love to, but, we have a whole process with the Toledo Community Foundation that we work with them, on, and we try to prioritize things, and we work hard at we have we have people who are very compassionate about, we tried and then we work really well with all of the other attractions in town.

We collaborate all the time.

Absolutely.

I love doing it.

So.

All right.

We're talking with Joe Napoli, the president of the Mud Hens and Walleye.

We're calling him the mayor of Haynesville here.

As we prepare for opening day tomorrow.

All right, Joe, buckle up.

It's now time for Gretchen's wacky quiz.

I'm now embarrassed to say I'm going to ask you for Robin by your questions.

Brett's is going to ask for your favorite thing in or about in Toledo.

I mean, you and Matt are going to work together.

Okay?

Scribe Toledo in exactly nine words.

Career.

He's got it.

It's going to be fun.

All right, if you could eat only one ballpark food for the rest of your life, what would it be?

Ballpark food.

Grilled hot dog.

All right.

Yeah, yeah.

Would you rather sit in the front row behind home plate?

Or in the outfield?

I love to walk the park, so I'm sitting behind home plate.

But I also love standing and standing room only.

Because the vantage point from all the stand room areas, actually, again, probably the best kept secret.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And you've notably got, you know, one of the most iconic seating areas in all of baseball roost in the roost.

Oh, absolutely.

All right.

Fireworks night.

Yeah.

Must stay or beat the traffic and leave early.

Oh, gosh.

Must stay.

So.

So if you if you want to do both people get real clever.

They walk to their cars and watch the fireworks in the parking lot.

Yeah, that is pretty clever.

So yeah, there was the Toledo has some really smart people.

Yeah, that's some of the big thinking I chose not to.

Northeast Ohio, walk to your car and watch the overhead fireworks.

That genius.

You can't duplicate in other cities, folks.

Oh, what a thrill.

Yeah, so I want to I'm going to put the rest of the staff on notice.

What was the next question?

If you could wave a wand and add any promotion to the schedule to the team?

Yes.

What would it be?

It is the dumbest promotion that we used to do.

The funny nose and glasses.

Yes, it costs like $0.10 for funny nose and glasses, and people would walk around the ballpark like.

Like they're a fashion item.

Yeah, and so stupid.

Fucking stupid.

Fuck.

Yeah.

All right.

What's your number one most favorite thing where you considered to be the best thing about the city of Toledo or the region?

Oh, God.

Great neighborhoods.

The list is going to be long.

Sorry.

So I bust through great neighborhoods, great schools, all the attractions.

13,000 acres of Metro Park I could show.

The zoo is amazing.

You don't have to be a lover of animals to go enjoy a day at the zoo.

Imagination station, great lakes museum, the riverfront.

We're a riverfront town, folks.

Don't forget it.

Anyway, anyway, So I could keep going.

Okay, I might give you some mud hens.

Opening day tomorrow.

First pitch at 4:00.

Yes.

Tickets are still available to go.

Yes, we will.

We'll shoehorn you in if you need to be.

That's why the numbers always exceed the capacity somebody wants out of the ballpark for the first time.

Yeah.

What's the compliment that you want to hear?

Oh, God.

That was, That was magical.

Yeah, yeah.

That's awesome.

Joe Napoli I so, so thanks for joining us.

Mayor of Pennsville.

Thanks.

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Tyler joins us to talk about the money shuttle.

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Welcome back into the 419.

We are at Fifth Third Field getting ready for mud ends opening day.

Just wrapped up a conversation with the mayor of Haynesville, Joe Napoli, getting, getting all things ready.

I'm fascinated by his backstory so much that I didn't know, there's a lot of great ways to get to fifth third field.

Perhaps no better with our friends at Tata Quinlan.

Tyler, thank you so much for joining us.

Thank you for having me.

What is your role at Tata?

I am the community affairs manager.

So if you think about anything out in the community, it's me.

Just in general, I mean, or what's on tap that specifically Tata.

Yeah, sure.

Well, friend Linda, in full candor, we are all actually friends and big fans of yours.

Are you nervous to play, opening Day?

You have been warming up.

You know, I haven't played since I was probably, like, 15.

Okay, so the fact that they're willing to throw me in.

Yeah.

Great honor.

Yeah, that's a little.

There is a real need they need on the team.

Yeah.

Have you ever or would you ever throw out the first pitch?

I have never thrown out the first pitch.

I would be willing to throw out the first pitch.

Although, don't know if I'd make it over high place and ask, do you think it would be?

But I try, I really try.

The mound is tricky.

Like this one ready for me, right?

Oh yeah.

You you want to throw out in front of it?

Yeah, right on it.

You're allowed to go in front.

Yeah.

Okay.

Cool.

Yeah, definitely.

I'm five three at my tallest.

I feel like it's like three.

Yeah.

In the new baseball you could be only five feet.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

Anyway, so Quinlan Tata is a, proud supporter and partner of certainly of this program.

We appreciate that.

Every Thursday we take a look at our twitter.com community calendar driven by Tata.

Why is the partnership between Tata and Wget in this program important to you guys and important to the community?

Yeah, I think Toledo has a lot of great gems, the show being one, and we love to support things that are very Toledo.

This podcast is an exemplary example of like made in the mud, right?

It's three great people.

Yeah, who are great.

We're not available, but we're here.

Oh yeah.

And we always want to support that in any way that we can.

And being a community partner is important to Tata.

Awesome.

Now you also partner with the Mud Hens and the walleye with the muddy shuttle.

Yes.

What if people are not familiar?

What is the muddy shuttle?

Yes.

So the muddy shuttle is a shuttle we provide every Friday and Saturday home game down to the Mud Hens stadium.

We will be providing one for opening day and then after Labor Day every Friday and Saturday we go from Toledo, Maumee, Waterville, Oregon and Sylvania.

Yeah.

90 minutes before the game, we'll pick you up.

We'll take you there.

$3, and we'll bring you back an hour after the game and even after the fireworks, so you can stay and watch the fireworks and all of a sudden, your car.

Yeah, you can watch them and beat the traffic.

Right.

What what is.

I mean is that a lot of people using that historically.

What's been the ridership on that.

And like, do I, do I reserve a ride or I just show up, you just show up.

It's a park and ride.

So you park your car, you get on, you can buy your your ticket ahead of time.

Like I said, it's $3.

So you can go to tada.com backslash money, purchase a pass or you can pay cash.

We'll always say cash.

So you park and ride and if you only take it one way, you can show up at the ball field and hop on.

If you're just trying to get a ride, it's a great.

I've used this.

Sorry to interrupt you, Gretchen, but everyone will be grateful.

I I've used this with friends.

That way we're not going in separate cars.

We get to hang out in the bus on the way down.

This is a really nice service.

Our Modi or Madonna ever on the shuttle.

So Muddy and Madonna do pop on once we get to the ballpark.

Okay, we may try to convince them to ride with us.

Or drive.

Or drive.

Yeah, we just took, I don't recommend the, the seat belt might be tough.

Yeah.

Seatbelt might be tough.

Yeah.

Are you pro?

Seatbelt.

Quinlan, I don't mean to put you on the spot.

Oh, absolutely.

Okay.

All right.

Yeah.

How how long have you been at target?

So I've been a target for two years now.

I joined in 20.

I know 2024 feels like time is flying.

And you are a godsend.

To the institution, which I, as you know, know and love.

Where are you from originally?

So I'm originally from North Carolina, but I moved here from Hawaii, so I love Toledo.

It's a great place to me.

Most Hawaii is really losing a lot of population, to come to Toledo.

Yeah.

So when you when you say North Carolina, Hawaii, Toledo, I mean, what is it that I may have my answers, but what is it you love about Toledo?

I love that you can build a life here.

I moved here right after college.

The University of Hawaii got grad and I found that the community is not only welcoming, but it's great for young professionals.

You want to build a family.

You want to build a career.

You can do it in Toledo.

Gretchen, do you know the mascot of, the University of Hawaii?

It's a shark.

That's absolutely wrong.

It's a Rainbow warrior.

It is a Rainbow Warrior.

One of my favorite mascots in all of college football.

What kind of warrior?

A rainbow warrior.

That's a rainbow warrior.

Okay, go with it, warrior.

It's just a warrior with a rainbow behind it.

If you look.

If you look at our mascot.

That's right there.

Right in the name.

Not everything has to be layered.

Yeah, yeah.

All right, I'm done.

It's right on the nose.

Yeah, yeah.

That's right.

When they tell us sometimes the muddy shuttle is just a shuttle that takes you to muddy.

Yeah, that's all it is.

Yeah, that's a big fancy marketing.

Tell us about some other upcoming, opportunities that that Tata is going to engage in the community or that the community can engage with Tata.

Yeah, absolutely.

We are also still running the walleye shuttle because the walleye are still dominate in the playoffs.

Yeah.

So you can get down to your home games using the walleye shuttle as well.

We also are going to partner with the Mud Hens this summer.

And the walleye when they provide their summer camps.

Yeah.

Meyer.

And across the city we're helping the youth to get there because like Tata, the walleye in the mountains are a great institution and they have a lot of good support.

And we want to make sure our youth can access that.

What's great is the summer blast part still a thing?

Yes, you summer blast is coming back for its fourth year in a row.

Four years?

That's right.

No eight for you.

You they just six.

And I didn't get to ride all.

It's hard a services free for May all the way until August 31st.

Awesome.

I love it.

All right, it's time to put you on the spot.

All right, buckle up.

Oh, good transition.

Right.

It's time for Gretchen's wacky quiz quiz.

Quinlan actually buckled up.

I love it so much.

All right, four rapid fire questions for me.

Gretchen is asking for your favorite thing in or about Toledo.

And then you and Matt will describe Toledo in exactly nine words.

You are at a Toledo Mud Hens game, are you there for baseball, socializing, or snacks to do?

Socializing and snacks?

Yes.

Okay, that's the only obvious answer, of course.

All right.

All right.

Would you rather catch a home run ball or be on the field for a mid inning contest?

I'd rather catch a home run ball tip.

If mascots could talk, would you want to have a full conversation with one?

Oh, absolutely.

And it would be Madonna.

Yes.

Yeah.

First, do you want to know if she's mar to muddy or not?

You know what?

I have a suspicion relationship.

I have a suspicion they're not married because that's a queen who has.

That's a different show.

I just want to know what their situation is.

You too.

I'm curious.

You guys should bring her on an Oscar.

We should.

You're batting for the Mud Hens walking up to the plate.

What is your walk up song?

Oh, God.

I don't I don't know if this would be the song, but the only song that's come into my head is never going to give you up.

Because I feel like it's ironic.

Yeah, it's something that nobody would choose.

But Rick roll the.

I want a Rick.

Roll your entire stadia.

Okay.

What is your number one most favorite thing of what you consider to be the best thing about the city of Toledo?

It's our access to our metro parks and our art museum.

And that you could do all of that in one day.

One day.

Awesome.

Okay.

All right, I'm gonna give you two, for that.

So, Metro parks and the Museum of Art.

Now, we only have a few more.

So let's roll through.

Best things about the area, in your opinion, are.

Okay, so Metro Parks Museum.

Yes.

Suck.

Got it.

It's on my list.

Got community annual.

That's important to you?

Riverfront.

Riverfront walk.

Toledo pickle.

Toledo pickle.

Thank you.

Where are we right now?

Oh, of course, the Mud Hens.

That's right.

And the walleye in the wall.

I got one left.

It'll bring me home.

Starts with a T and ends with an A TMA.

Oh, Tada!

I know what the Jesus is saved you for being fired.

You're such a community advocate.

That's right.

She naturally goes to the bottom of our.

Absolutely.

That's right.

We're just one of the many places that I heard you say.

Metroparks only.

Anyways, let's just let's run down one more time.

Muddy shuttle locations and times for tomorrow.

Opening day.

Absolutely.

You can catch the muddy shuttle, Miracle Mile in Toledo, mommy.

Waterville, Oregon and Sylvania.

And pick up is 90 minutes before the game park and ride and got.

It's hard a.com backslash money to get your tickets and to learn more.

Mary.

Good.

Quinlan.

Tyler, thank you so much for everything.

You're doing in the community.

Certainly, Tata is an incredible community partner in so many different areas.

We're so grateful to have you guys be a part of this program as well.

Of course, as we take a look at our community calendar and all the different places and all the different cool things happening around the region that you can help us get to.

Thank you so much for joining us.

Thank you.

Predictions.

Who's winning the game tomorrow?

Oh to go Gretchen.

Who are they playing?

Some team.

All right.

All right.

We're going to take a break.

When we come back, we will wrap up this Mayor Monday edition of the 419.

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Welcome back into the 419 as we wrap up a mayor Monday edition.

An exciting conversation with the Mayor of Nashville, Joe Napoli.

Of course, the play by play announcer, Matt Mel, Zach and Quinlan Tyler, our friend from two great guests.

Kevin.

Good job.

Yeah, yeah.

This was I'm excited for opening day tomorrow.

It is.

We might say it's the second best day in Toledo.

The second best day.

The first best day may well be for one nine day coming up on April 19th.

We're very excited, to announce that we are having a special event at Jew Mode on for one nine day from 2 to 6, 1811 Monroe Street.

Our friends and partners at e a Jewish mode, the 419.

The other shows Metroparks.

We're going to be there.

The store will be open for you to, shop.

You can make your own shirts and make your own that will benefit.

And then we're going to do a live recording of our podcast at 4:19 p.m.. This event is free.

Food truck will be available.

Dates will be there.

Ladder 419 will be there.

I am.

I think I may have mentioned, I don't know if I've said this on the show yet or not, but I've sold platter for one nine.

And so we'll introduce it now it's running smoothly.

It really is.

It's about time.

That's right.

So everyone will join us for a live recording of the podcast and to join us at Jew Mode on April 19th.

We've got, an exciting show coming up tomorrow.

We do.

We're going to have Eric Emerson, the general manager of the Toledo Mud Hens, will join us.

We will also have Craig Katz, who oversees all of the great swag and apparel that we are wearing, free stuff.

And that's really a question for Greg.

My guess, my my guess is the answer is no.

Okay.

Because his job will still talk to him.

His job is to sell it.

And then we'll have Troy Hammersmith.

We'll talk about all of the cool game day promotions that are coming up.

You know, this is.

I think Quinlan made the comment, you know, she's coming out here, for the snacks and the socialization.

Right?

The reality is, 90% of the people that walk out of the ballpark have no idea, what the final score was.

They're coming here for.

For everything else that's happening, we'll talk to Troy about some of the cool, events that they've got scheduled and ways to come out and celebrate.

It'll be great.

Everything they're doing.

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