- I think leaving a piece of my original art in a neighborhood as a permanent piece for a community, it makes me wanna leave my a hundred percent best work.

It makes me really proud.

The best moments are at the end when people are like, wow out.

I started really enjoying murals in college, and specifically I was asked to do like nurseries and kids' rooms, and it was always really exciting to see the response.

And I got the mural bug, and then I did a first mural at a campground, and it was very public mural, like all the campers got to see it when they passed through to go eat lunch, and they all went wild, and it just flooded me with joy.

When I begin a mural, the buzz gets started right when I arrive and I start priming a wall.

People wanna know exactly what it's gonna look like.

I try to keep that, you know, to myself.

It is part of my journey as an artist to make communities look great and people proud of where they live.

A bright unexpected moment in a community doesn't match the typical colors of buildings we often see.

I hope it makes them value this art form.

Public art really matters and look what it does in a community, just where you're standing, the investment in a trained professional artist, rather than trying to get a contest for a mural or trying to get a free mural, it's really worth hiring someone that it's, it's their profession and their practice and their passion.

Some of that gets lost in big cities where they want to cut corners or maybe order something that's printed and paste it on the wall.

But I think the number one thing is that people value and will invest in artists.