
Mammal Hall, Breast Cancer News, Progressive Income Tax
Season 2023 Episode 213 | 27mVideo has Closed Captions
New Mammal Hall, banner on breast cancer, and progressive income tax
New Mammal Hall is a new gallery at the Arizona Museum of Natural History. Banner discusses ways they are helping patients with metastatic breast cancer live longer, age groups are seeing a rate increase, and how breast cancer disproportionately affects women of color. The Joint Legislative Budget Committee identified deficits for Arizona's future state budgets approaching half a billion dollars.
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Mammal Hall, Breast Cancer News, Progressive Income Tax
Season 2023 Episode 213 | 27mVideo has Closed Captions
New Mammal Hall is a new gallery at the Arizona Museum of Natural History. Banner discusses ways they are helping patients with metastatic breast cancer live longer, age groups are seeing a rate increase, and how breast cancer disproportionately affects women of color. The Joint Legislative Budget Committee identified deficits for Arizona's future state budgets approaching half a billion dollars.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship>> Ted: COMING UP NEXT ON"ARIZONA HORIZON," A IF YOU REPORT LOOKS AT WHY THE STATE BUDGET IS FACING A $400 MILLION SHORTFALL.
>>> EFFORTS TO EXTEND THE LIFE EXPECTANCY WITH METASTATIC BREAST CANCER.
>>> A NEW ADDITION TO THE ARIZONA MUSEUM OF NATURAL HISTORY.
THOSE STORIES AND MORE ARE NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON."
WELCOME TO ARIZONA, I'M TED SIMONS.
AS WE RECORD TONIGHT SHOW, AUTHORITIES IN MAINE ARE STILL SEARCHING FOR THE SUSPECTED GUNMAN WHO KILLED 18 PEOPLE AND INJURED 13 OTHERS AT A RESTAURANT AND CROWDED BOWLING ALLEY LAST NIGHT.
THE CITY OF LEWISTTOWN AND NEAR BY TOWNS ARE ON LOCKDOWN WHERE THE CERTIFIED GUNMAN IS A CERTIFIED FIREARM'S INSTRUCTOR AND WHO SPENT TIME IN A MILITARY HOSPITAL THIS SUMMER FOR A PSYCHIATRIC EVALUATION.
THE FOR MAYOR SAYS THE PEOPLE OF LEWISTON TO NOT DESERVE THIS.
>> IT'S A HARD-WORKING COMMUNITY OPENING ITS BIG HEART TO PEOPLE EVERYWHERE.
THIS IS WHERE I WORKED FOR YEARS AND MET AND MARRIED MY HUSBAND AND WHERE I WENT TO SCHOOL.
I LOVE THIS PLACE.
JUST AS I LOVE OUR HOME STATE WITH MY ENTIRE HEART.
>> Ted: MAINE HAS SOME OF THE MOST PERMISSIONIVE GUN LAWS IN THE REASON, SOMETHING THAT THE MAINE SENATOR SAID HELPED TO MAKE MAINE THE SAFEST STATE IN THE NATION.
>> IRONICALLY ON MONDAY, THE FBI DESIGNATED MAINE THE SAFEST STATE IN THE COUNTRY AND ALTHOUGH WE HAVE A VERY HIGH PERCENTAGE OF GUN OWNERSHIP IN THE STATE, ONE OF THE HIGHEST IN THE COUNTRY, I THINK THE LAST FIGURES I SAW, WE WERE THE SECOND LOWEST IN THE COUNTRY.
SO THAT'S WHY THIS INCIDENT IS SO HOCKING.
SO SHOCKING.
ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'VE GOT ONE INDIVIDUAL OUT OF 1.3 MILLION WHO HAS JUST TERRIFIED THIS REGION.
>> Ted: MAINE DOES NOT BAR THE PURCHASE OF MILITARY-STYLE ASSAULT RIFLES OR LIMIT THE PURCHASE OF HIGH CAPACITY MAGAZINES.
>> A 27-YEAR-OLD TUCSON MAN IS IN JAIL AFTER AN ONLINE THREAT TO COMMIT A SHOOTING AT THE UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA.
ACCORDING TO STATE AND FEDERAL COMPLAINTS, THE SUSPECT MADE THE COMPLAINTS ON SNAPCHAT MONDAY NIGHT.
STATE CHARGES HAVE BEEN FILED AND FEDERAL CHARGES ARE PENDING.
U OF A OFFICIALS SAY HE'S NOT A STUDENT.
>>> FORMER U.S. SENATE BLAKE MASTERS ANNOUNCED HE'S RUNNING FOR CONGRESSWOMAN'S DEBBIE LESKO'S SEAT IN DISTRICT 8.
LESKO SAID SHE WILL NOT SEEK REELECTION.
MASTERS WHO LOST HIS BID FOR NAT LAST YEAR TO MARK KELLY JOINS SIX OTHER REPUBLICANS INCLUDING ABE HAMMADEH WHO LOST HIS RACE LAST YEAR FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL.
MASTERS ANNOUNCED HIS CANDIDACY ON SOCIAL MEDIA SAYING, IN PART, BIDEN HAS FAILED.
WE NEED TRUMP BACK.
>>> RESEARCH BY THE GRAND CANYON INSTITUTE SHOWED A $400 MILLION SHORTFALL IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET IS DUE TO THE FLAT TAX AND SUBSEQUENT $500 MILLION DROP IN REV NOW.
REVENUE.
JOINING US IS DAVE WELLS.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
FIRST OF ALL, THE FACT THAT THERE'S A SHORTFALL FORECAST HERE, SURPRISE YOU?
>> NO.
IT'S A QUESTION OF A WHEN.
THE STATE OF KANSAS ENACTED MASSIVE TAX CUTS YEARS AGO LEADING TO A HORRIBLE CALAMITY IN TERMS OF THE STATE BUDGET AND SO I'M NOT SURPRISED.
I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED THAT WE'RE FACING SUCH A HORRIBLE SITUATION.
>> Ted: THE STUDY SHOWS THE FLAT TAX THE MAIN REASON FOR THIS.
>> YES.
AS A PROGRESSIVE INCOME TAX.
LOW INCOME PEOPLE HAD A MARGINAL TAX RATE ALMOST HALF AS MUCH AS WHAT HIGH INCOME PEOPLE DID AND WHAT THE LEGISLATURE DID IS THEY ESSENTIALLY LOWERED THE TAX RATE TO WHAT THE LOWER PEOPLE PAID AND NOW WEALTHY PEOPLE PAY 2.5% INSTEAD OF 4% AND SOME SAVE $200,000 A YEAR.
FAMILIES HAVE INCOME OVER $500 MILLION.
>> Ted: I'M SEEING 70% OF TAX CUT BENEFITING THOSE MAKING OVER $200,000.
>> IT WILL COST $1.4 BILLION NEXT YEAR, WHICH IS MORE THAN ENOUGH, OBVIOUSLY, TO COVER THIS.
THAT'S OVER THE SKINNY BUDGET.
THREE NOT OVER THE ACTUAL ENACTED BUDGET BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THERE YET.
THE SKINNY BUDGET IS WHAT THEY'RE STATUTORILY REQUIRED TO DO, LIKE 12K FUNDING.
>> Ted: YOU DESCRIBED THIS HAS THE PIZZA'S AND PORSCHE'S BUDGET.
EXPLAIN.
>> FOR MOST PEOPLE, THEY GOT MAYBE TEN BUCKS, 0 20 BUCKS OR 40 BUCKS.
EITHER A SMALL PIZZA OR BIG PIZZA AND THAT'S IT.
THE PEOPLE WHO MADE OVER $5 MILLION, WHICH ISN'T MANY PEOPLE, THEY SAVE OVER $200,000 A YEAR AND THAT'S NOT ONLY TO BUY A PORSCHE BUT SOMETHING BIG ON TOP OF IT.
IT'S TO THE UPPER END OF THE INCOME DISTRIBUTION.
>> Ted: AGAIN, REVENUES, IF THE PROGRESSIVE TAX WAS IN EFFECT, THOSE REVENUES WOULD BE -- YOU THREW A NUMBER OUT THERE?
>> WE'RE LOSING $1.4 BILLION BECAUSE OF THIS, TO THE FOLKS ABOVE $200,000.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR LAWMAKERS TO THINK ABOUT STATING A PROGRESSIVE INCOME TAX TO BRING IN THE STATE REVENUE.
>> Ted: YOU REFERRED TO KANSAS AND THEIR EXPERIMENT HAVING DUBIOUS RESULTS.
IS IT A REFERENCE, ANALOGY OR A DIRECT COMPARISON?
>> I THINK IT'S SOMETHING TO WATCH.
SO NORMALLY WHEN SOMEBODY WANTS TO INTRODUCE A FLAT TAX, IT'S CRITICALLY UNPALATABLE.
IF YOU KEEP IT NEUTRAL, YOU HAVE TO RAISE TAXES FOR OTHER FOLKS OR CUT SERVICES.
DURING THE PANDEMIC, IT INFLATE IT'S THE BUDGET AND THEY ARE ABLE TO HAVE A SURPLUS AND GET RID OF THE SURPLUS AND PROVIDE A LARGE TAX CUT THAT ALMOST PRIMARILY WENT TO WEALTHY PEOPLE WHICH IS A UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCE.
KANSAS DID IT WITHOUT THAT CIRCUMSTANCE AND KANSAS WENT INTO A DRAMATIC TURNDOWN.
BUT THIS NOT REALLY A GOOD STATE FOR ARIZONA.
>> Ted: REPUBLICANS SAY INFLATION IS THE MAIN REASON FOR THIS SHORTFALL.
RESPOND, PLEASE.
>> I'M PERPLEXED, I GUESS.
WE DO HAVE INFLATION AND INFLATION IS COMING DOWN, BUT THE ECONOMY IS STILL PROGRESS AND CREATING JOBS AND SO FORTH.
DURING TIMES OF ECONOMIC GROWTH, THE STATE DOES RUN SURPLUSES AND THAT'S A NORMAL THING.
WHAT'S HAPPENED HERE, THE LEGISLATURE DECIDED -- AND THIS HAPPENED DURING THE 2021 SESSION AND THIS IS DURING GOVERNOR DUCEY'S ADMINISTRATION, THAT THEY DECIDED, BASICALLY, TO TAKE THAT SURPLUS AND REDISTRIBUTE IT TO THE WEALTHY PEOPLE IN ARIZONA.
>> Ted: REPUBLICANS ARE ALSO SAYING INTEREST RATES, RISING INTEREST RATES AND THAT'S ALSO AT PLAY HERE.
AGAIN, DO THEY HAVE A POINT?
>> CERTAINLY AT PLAY A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THAT'S SLOWING TOWN DOWN THE ECONOMY.
HOUSING PRICES WERE GOING WAY UP AND THERE WERE A LOT OF THINGS AFFECTING IT AND CERTAINLY THE ECONOMY IS SLOWING DOWN A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE'RE STILL HAVING A DECENT AMOUNT OF GROWTH.
>> Ted: OK, OVERWATCHING ALL OF THIS, FROM THE CONSERVATIVE'S SIDE, THESE PEOPLE THAT MAKE ALL OF THIS MONEY, THE JOB CREATORS, THE ONES THAT STIMULATE THE ECONOMY AND TAKE AWAY MONEY FROM THEM, THAT DOES NOT HELP STIMULATE THE ECONOMY.
SLOWS IT DOWN, VALID POINT?
>> NO.
TAKE THAT 1.4 $1.4 BILLION AND PICK WHICHEVER RICH PERSON AND THINK INSTEAD OF TAKING THAT MONEY AND INVESTING IT IN OUR TEACHERS AND INVESTING IT IN ROADS AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND OTHER KINDS OF THINGS.
AND INVESTING IT IN HELPING LOW-INCOME FAMILIES BE MORE STABLE.
THOSE THINGS WILL GET SPENT IN ARIZONA AND IT WILL CREATE A FOUNDATION FOR GROWTH AND IT'S GENERALLY -- WHEN I LOOKED AT THE COMMON SENSE INSTITUTE, THEY FORECASTED WHAT WOULD HAPPEN FROM THIS.
THEY SAW BEAUTIFUL, ROSY PICTURES GOING FORWARD A YEAR AGO AND NOT EXPECTING WHAT HAPPENED, IN FACT.
>> Ted: ARIZONA IS ADDING JOBS AND OUR MEDIAN INCOME IS HIGHER THAN THE U.S. AVERAGE AND THINGS ARE GOING RELATIVELY WELL HERE REGARDING THE ECONOMY.
CUTTING TAXES, IN GENERAL, SPECIFICALLY THE FLAT TAX BUT IN GENERAL, CUTTING TAXES, DOES IT ALWAYS MEAN A HIT ON REVENUE OR CAN IT NOT STIMULATE THE ECONOMY?
>> IF IT'S DONE CAREFULLY, THERE ARE TIMES IT COULD STIMULATE THE WHICH.
THINK OF WHAT YOUR MAIN PRIORITIES ARE AND I DON'T THINK PROVIDING ADDED INCOME TO THE WEALTHY PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING WELL WILL GET AT IMPROVING OUR HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATION RATE.
THOSE INVESTMENTS GET LOST BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT ANYMORE.
>> Ted: DOES THIS ACCELERATE AS THE YEARS GO ON WITH THE FLAT TAX ENACTED?
>> WE'LL HAVE TO WATCH IT BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE A DEFICIT OVER THE SKINNY BUDGET AND SO DOING INVESTMENTS IS GOING FORWARD AND WE'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE REVENUES ARE NOT SUPER INFLATED FROM THE PANDEMIC.
>> Ted: DAVE, THANKS FOR JOINING US.
>> THANK YOU.
>> Ted: UP NEXT, LATEST TO HELP PATIENTS WITH BREAST CANCER.
>> MEDICAL EXPERTS AT THE BANNER CANCER CENTER ARE WORKING TO EXTEND LIFE EXPECTANCY FOR THOSE WITH BREAST CANCER AND TO LEARN LATEST INFORMATION ON BREAST CANCER RESEARCH AND TREATMENT, WE WELCOME BANNER MEDICAL ONCOLOGIST, DR. HUNG KONG.
THANKS FOR JOINING US.
GOOD TO HAVE YOU.
WHAT ARE WE LEARNING ABOUT BREAST CANCER?
HOW MUCH ARE WE LEARNING AND WHAT ARE WE LEARNING?
>> SO BREAST CANCER IS ACTUALLY COMMON AND THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT TYPES AND NOT JUST ONE TYPE.
WHAT WE'RE LEARNING IS THAT WE ARE GETTING BETTER AT TREATING BREAST CANCER.
OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS, THE DEATH RATE FOR BREAST CANCER HAS BEEN REDUCED BY 40%.
SO THEREFORE, WE'RE DOING A LOT BETTER.
>> Ted: VERY GOOD.
THESE ADVANCES, ARE THEY ACCELERATING?
>> THEY ARE ACCELERATING.
WE LEARNED THE BONE STRUCTURE, THE PROGRESS PROGRESSIVENESS OF BREAST CANCERS.
WE HAVE IMMUNOTHERAPY UP TO DATE TO FIGHT CANCERS AND THAT'S HELPING A GREAT DEAL IN THE SURVIVAL OF PATIENTS WITH BREAST CANCER.
>> Ted: I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT IMMUNOTHERAPY.
HAVEN'T HEARD QUITE SO MUCH ABOUT IT AND IS THAT BECAUSE IT'S TAKEN HOLD AND A REALITY NOW?
>> SO, ACTUALLY, IT'S A REALITY NOW AND I TRAIN IT'S WITH A FAMOUS HEMOLOGIST IN THE WORLD.
HE STARTED WORKING ON THIS 40, 50 YEARS AGO AND MANY HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR MANY TYPES OF CANCER, NOT JUST BREAST CANCER.
BREAST CANCER IS A LATE-UMKER.
LATE-COMER.
THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WORK FOR BREAST CANCER RIGHT NOW.
>> Ted: I KNOW YOU'RE FOCUSED ON -- WELL, A LOT, I WOULD IMAGINE -- EXTENDING LIFE EXPECTANCIES AND IMPROVING QUALITY OF LIFE.
THAT SEEMS TO BE ACCELERATING, AS WELL, OR YOU TELL ME?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
SO WHENEVER WE TREAT A PATIENT WITH METASTATIC BREAST CANCER, WE HAVE TO TELL THE PATIENT THAT EVEN THOUGH WE CAN'T CURE -- AS OF RIGHT NOW ANYWAY, WE CANNOT CURE STAGE 4 BREAST CANCER.
BUT YOU CAN HELP THEM LIVE LONGER.
EVERYBODY WANTS TO LIVE LONGER TO PROLONG LIFE AND WE CAN REDUCE THE SYMPTOMS.
ADVANCED CANCER CAN CAUSE SHORTNESS OF BREATH MANY DIFFERENT SYMPTOMS.
>> Ted: QUALITY OF LIFE IS A BIG FACTOR COMPARED TO TEN YEARS AGO AND 20 YEARS AGO, HOW FAR HAVE WE COME?
>> SO WE HAVE COME A LONG WAY COMPARED TO 20 OR 30 YEARS AGO.
COMPARED TO CHEMO, IT'S LESS FREQUENT.
SO WE'VE COME A LONG WAY FOR BREAST CANCER.
>> Ted: LEARNING ABOUT OTHER CANCERS, IS THAT HELPING WITH BREAST CANCER RESEARCH?
>> SO YES, RIGHT NOW, WE TEND NOT TO FOCUS ON THE TYPES OF CANCERS.
WE FOCUS ON THE MOLECULAR STRUCTURE THAT CAN RESIST THEM AND THEY CONFER IT.
WE CAN DO THE TARGET.
SO THERE ARE TWO COMMON PATHWAYS PATHWAYS.
THEY CAN ACTIVATE A NEW SYSTEM.
WE CAN BYPASS THE PARTICULAR TYPES OF BREAST CANCERS AND WE JUST FOCUS ON ALL CANCERS THAT HAVE THAT PATHWAY OR ALL CANCERS RESPOND TO IMMUNOTHERAPY.
>> Ted: BREAST CANCER RESEARCH IS HELPED BY OTHER CANCER RESEARCH AND OTHER CANCER RESEARCH IS HELPED BY BREAST CANCER RESEARCH.
>> ABSOLUTELY, YES.
THAT'S QUITE TRUE.
IN THE PAST, WE FOCUS ON ONE TYPE OF CANCER AND NOW WE FOCUS ACROSS THE BOARD.
>> Ted: AS FAR AS RISK FACTORS, WHAT CAUSES BREAST CANCER, ARE WE ANY CLOSER TO THAT?
>> THE CAUSE OF BREAST CANCER IS NOT KNOWN IN MOST CASES.
THIS ACCOUNTS FOR LESS THAN 5% OR 10% OF CASES.
WE KNOW THE RISK FACTORS IN SOME CAUSE, BUT WE DON'T KNOW THE CAUSE.
SO THE RISK FACTORS ARE THINGS WE CAN CHANGE.
LIKE AGE, THE OLDER WE ARE.
SO WE MEN WHOSO BEFORE 11 YEARS OF AGE OR WOMEN OF LATE MENOPAUSE HAVE HIGHER RISK OF BREAST CANCER BECAUSE OF EXPOSURE OR A STRONG FAMILY HISTORY.
BUT THINGS WE CAN CHANGE LIKE OBESITY, OVERWEIGHT AND SATISFIEDSEDENTARY LIFETILE.
>> Ted: GOOD INFORMATION BEFORE HUNG KONG.
IT SOUNDS OPTIMISTIC AND LET HOPE THE ADVANCES CONTINUE.
DOCTOR, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> YOU'VE BEEN HOSPITALIZED AND I'VE HAD OTHER ISSUES, BUT TODAY, I WOULD SAW I'M VERY HAPPY AND HEALTHY AVENUE AND LIVE A SUCCESSFUL LIFE.
>> Ted: THETHE ARIZONA MUSEUM OF NATIONAL HISTORY REVEALS LARGE MAMMALS WHAT IS NOW ARIZONA.
WE ARE JOINED BY SIMONE TIPENE ADLAN AND DR. BOB.
GOOD TO HAVE YOU.
MAMMAL HALL, GIVE ME A BETTER DEFINITION OF WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.
>> THIS IS A MAJOR NEW HALL THAT TALKS ABOUT THINGS THAT PEOPLE CARE ABOUT IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND CLIMATE, HOT SUMMERS, YOU KNOW, PLANTS DISAPPEARING, SO WE THOUGHT, WHY DON'T WE TALK ABOUT THAT IN THIS NEW HALL.
I'M NOT THE CURE CURATOR AND DR. BOB CAN TELL YOU A LOT MORE WHY THIS DISAPPEARED AND IMPORTANT NOW.
>> Ted: WHAT CAN BE SEEN THERE AND WHY WAS IT SIT UP AS IT WAS SET UP?
>> IT'S A DRAMATIC AMAZING NEW INSTALLATION, DARK WALLS WITH MASS THAT DONS AND YOU HEAR NOISES OF THESE ANIMALS AND YOU'LL SEA CONTEMPORARY ANTELOPES OF THESE MAMMALS.
WE HAVE SPACES, WHERE IF YOU'RE ON THE SPECTRUM, YOU CAN TAKE A BREAK.
IT'S ACCESSIBLE TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.
ANOTHER THING ABOUT THE SUBJECT, IT'S IN BOTH SPANISH AND IF ENGLISH AND WE PREFER SPANISH IN THIS.
THIS IS THE DIRECTION WE'RE DOING AND QUESTION BASED.
WHEN YOU'RE GOING THERE WITH GRANDCHILDREN AND FAMILY, YOU LEARN SOMETHING.
IT'S THE DIRECTION THE MUSEUM IS MOVING TOWARDS AND IT'S THE DIRECTION THAT OUR COMMUNITY THEY WOULD LIKE US TO ADDRESS.
>> Ted: THE MASTEDON, RELATIVE TO WHAT, THE ELEPHANT, MAYBE?
>> IT'S AN ELEPHANT IS HOW I WOULD DESCRIBE IT TO PEOPLE.
>> Ted: YEAH, WITH BIG TUSKS.
>> YES.
>> Ted: WHAT CAUSED ITS EXTINCTION AND WHY ISN'T IT HERE ANYMORE.
>> LOCALLY PROBABLY CLIMATE CHANGE AND PLANT CHANGE BECAUSE OF CLIMATE CHANGE IS THE MAIN DRIVER.
MASTEDONS PROBABLY WEREN'T IN THE VALLEY AND THERE'S NO EVIDENCE OF THEM.
PROBABLY LIKE A LOT OF THINGS, HANGING OUT ON THE COLORADO PLATEAU IN THE SPRUCE FOREST, WHICH IS WHAT THEY PREFER THROUGHOUT THEIR RANGE.
AND IF YOU KNOW WHERE SPRUCE IS TODAY, IT'S AT THE VERY TOPS OF MODERN MOUNTAINS IN ARIZONA SO SIMPLY THERE'S NO HABITAT FOR THEM.
>> Ted: HOW LONG AGO DID THEY DIE OUT?
>> BETWEEN TEN AND 11,000 YEARS.
>> Ted: SO IT'S BEEN AWHILE.
AMERICAN LION, 25% LARGER THAN THE MODERN LION, THAT'S A BIG ANIMAL.
>> IT IS.
QUITE IMPRESSIVE.
>> Ted: WHAT HAPPENED THAT ONE?
>> IT'S AT THE TOP OF THE FOOD CHAIN.
EACH ANIMAL DEMONSTRATES A DIFFERENT PATH TO DISAPPEARANCE, I SUPPOSE.
THE AMERICAN LAY LION IS THE TOP CARNIVORE AND WHEN THE SMALLER FOOD ANIMALS DISAPPEAR, THE CARNIVORES WHICH TAKES A LARGE POPULATION TO SUPPORT A MEAT EATER, THAT'S DISAPPEAR FREQUENTLY FIRST.
>> Ted: THE AMERICAN HORSE, WHICH IS INTERESTING BECAUSE, WHAT, IT'S SHAPED LIKE A ZEBRA?
>> LARGE-HEADED ANIMAL.
WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT STRIPES OR NOT.
>> Ted: BUT AS FAR AS THE BODY IS CONCERNED.
>> A ZEBRA IS A GAD GOOD ANALOG OR PICTURE.
>> Ted: WHAT HAPPENED TO THESE ANIMALS?
>> LOOK AROUND YOU.
A HORSE SURVIVING IN THE DESERT, PARTICULARLY LIKE PHOENIX, MAYBE THEY COULD MAKE IT IN AWHILE OR GIVEN A THOUSAND YEAR DROUGHT, THEY DIDN'T MAKE IT BECAUSE THERE ISN'T FAD HEAR FOOD HERE FOR THEM.
>> Ted: HOW DO YOU TELL THESE STORIES AS BEST AS POSSIBLE?
>> FIRST OF ALL, WE'RE EVIDENCE-BASED AND WE'RE A RESEARCH FACILITY AND WE HAVE ALL OF THE EVIDENCE OVER MANY YEARS.
BUT HOW DO WE TELL THESE STORYS?
>> WELL, WE USE THE WONDER WONDERMENT OF WHEN YOU COME INTO A MUSEUM.
YOU HAVE A WOW MOMENT.
YOU SEE A HUGE MASTEDON AND YOU CAN DO THE HOW AND WE DO THE HOW AND WOW.
YOU CAN SEE THE MEAT EATER AND READ SOME OF THE DIDACTIC MATERIAL AND GIVE THE MESSAGING.
WE HAVE A BIG TEXT PHRASE.
CLIMATES MOVE, PLANTS CHANGE AND ANIMALS PARISH.
PERISH.
WE TALK ABOUT THE HOT SUMMERS AND HOW THINGS CHANGE WHEN TEMPERATURES CHANGE, WHICH IS IMPORTANT IN THE COMMUNITY WE LIVE IN.
>> Ted: ARE WE LEARNING MORE ABOUT EXTINCTION AND WHY CERTAIN ANIMALS SIMPLY AREN'T HERE ANYMORE?
>> WE ARE LEARNING MORE EVERY DAY AND IN FACT, WE'RE LEARNING MORE ABOUT MINI-PERIODS OF CLIMATE CHANGE AND FOSSIL EXTINCTION.
>> Ted: WHERE IS THE MUSEUM LOCATED?
>> IN THE CITY OF MESA, OFF MAIN STRATEGY ON McDONALD.
CAN'T MISS US.
>> Ted: THE BIG OLD ANIMAL IN THE FRONT.
>> A DINOSAUR JUMPING OUT OF THE BUSH.
>> Ted: SIMON, DR. BOB, THANK YOU.
>> SEE YOU SOON.
>> Ted: THAT'S IT FOR NOW.
I'M TED SIMONS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.
YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING!
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