>> Announcer: DONNYBROOK IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE MEMBERS OF THE NINE NETWORK.

>> WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH AND WELCOME TO THIS FIRST DAY OF SPRING AND A SPECIAL HOUR-LONG PRESENTATION OF DONNYBROOK WITH YOUR PHONE CALLS AND TWEETS AND EXTRA SPECIAL GUEST WHO'S GOING TO JOIN US THIS HOUR.

WE'LL INTRODUCE HIM IN A MOMENT, BUT AS YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE, WE'RE ACTUALLY PRACTICING SOCIAL DISTANCING FOR THIS EDITION.

THAT'S RIGHT, NO GREEN TABLE.

I THINK WE PUT IT IN QUARANTINE, BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT COVID-19 AND THE CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC.

ALONG WITH YOUR PHONE CALLS, YOUR TWEETS, AND MORE.

SO LET'S MEET THOSE WHO ARE NOT ASSEMBLED AROUND THE BIG GREEN TABLE FOR THIS EDITION, STARTING WITH THE NEWS DIRECTOR FOR THE BIG 550 KTRS, WENDY WIESE.

ALONG WITH ONE OF OUR FOUNDERS, MR.

BILL McCLELLAN, FROM THE ST.

LOUIS POST-DISPATCH.

ANOTHER FOUNDER, RAY HARTMANN FROM THE RAY HARTMANN PROGRAM WEEK NIGHTS AT 9:00 ON ON KTRS AS WELL AS THE RIVERFRONT TIMES.

AND FROM THE ST.

LOUIS AMERICAN, 590 AM AND 97.1 FM NEWS TALK, THE DAVE GLOVER SHOW, ALVIN REID.

BEFORE WE BEGIN OUR DISCUSSION TONIGHT, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU, EVERYBODY, FOR JOINING US.

WE DID WANT TO REMIND EDUCATORS IN OUR AUDIENCE THAT KETC, THE NINE NETWORK, HAS A SPECIAL EDUCATION TOOLKIT WHICH IS AVAILABLE FOR YOUR PERUSAL AND THE EDIFICATION OF YOUR STUDENTS WHETHER THEY'RE IN THE CLASSROOM OR STUDYING ONLINE RIGHT NOW.

PLEASE CONTACT THE NINE NETWORK FOR THAT.

ALSO AT 8:00, JUDY WOODRUFF AND THE TEAM AT THE PBS NEWS HOUR WILL HAVE A SPECIAL ONE-HOUR EDITION OF THEIR PROGRAM, TAKING A LOOK AT THE CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC FROM A NATIONAL PERSPECTIVE.

WHY DON'T WE START THEN WITH YOU, ALVIN.

WE'RE GOING TO ASK EVERYBODY TO TELL US HOW THEY'RE REACTING TO THE PANDEMIC, STARTING WITH THE REED FAMILY AND THE SPECIAL CITY OF KIRKWOOD.

>> WELL, THE BRENNAN FAMILY I THINK IS GOING THROUGH SOME OF THE SAME THINGS.

OUR DAUGHTERS ARE HOME FROM COLLEGE AND WE'RE MAKING DO, AND IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S USUALLY -- WHEN THEY'RE HOME, THEY'RE RIPPING AND RUNNING AND ALL THAT, BUT THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH IN THE HOUSE.

I HAD TO PRINT OUT SOME LITTLE SIGNS THAT SAID "CLASS IN SESSION" BECAUSE TWICE NOW, I'VE BEEN EITHER TALKING LOUD TO ONE OF THE GIRLS AND THE OTHER ONE SAYS, HEY, STUDYING IN HERE.

LIKE ONLINE CLASS?

REMEMBER THAT?

BUT I MEAN, PEOPLE ARE WEARING GLOVES AND PEOPLE ARE WEARING MASKS, BUT I'M TELLING PEOPLE, KEEP WEARING A SMILE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO JUST KEEP A POSITIVE MENTAL ATTITUDE AND WE'RE TRYING TO DO THAT IN THE REED HOUSEHOLD.

IT MAY GET A LITTLE TOUGHER EVERY DAY THAT GOES BY, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, I MEAN, WE'RE MAKING DO.

AND ONE THING I WAS ON EARLIER TODAY ON -- WITH DAVE GLOVER, AND I SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, REMIND YOUNGER PEOPLE -- AND WHEN I SAY YOUNGER, MAYBE LIKE 40 YEARS OLD, THAT WHAT YOU HEAR AT 8:00 OR 9:00 NOW IS WHAT WE HEARD WHEN WE WERE KIDS, AND IT'S SILENCE.

THERE'S NOT A LOT OF CARS OUT AND THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ACTIVITY AND THIS WHOLE WORLD WHERE WE LIVE IN NOW WHERE EVERYTHING GOES TILL 1:00 AND 2:00 IN THE MORNING EVERY DAY, IT WASN'T LIKE THAT.

I'VE HEARD THIS BEFORE AND WE JUST GOT REMINDED OF IT.

>> BILL McCLELLAN.

>> WELL, I'VE BECOME KIND OF A HERMIT.

I USED TO GO TO SCHNUCKS ALMOST EVERY DAY.

I DON'T DO THAT AT ALL.

I'M ONLY HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT CLUSTERED AROUND THE GREEN TABLE.

I'VE CHANGED MY LIFESTYLE TO THE POINT THAT I BOUGHT HALF A CASE OF WINE LAST NIGHT AND USUALLY I'M A SOCIAL PERSON WHO LIKES TO GO TO THE WINE STORE AND BUY A BOTTLE AT A TIME.

AS YOU GUYS KNOW, I HAVE A GLASS OF WINE EACH NIGHT.

SOMETIMES A LARGE GLASS, SOMETIMES A SMALLER GLASS, BUT I LIKE TO LOOK AT A BOTTLE AND LOOK AT THE LABEL AND CHAT WITH PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, AND ONE BOTTLE WILL LAST ME FOR A FEW DAYS A COUPLE OF DAYS.

I DECIDED I'M JUST GOING TO STOP ALL THAT.

I WENT AND SAT OUTSIDE, SAID I WANT TO BUY HALF A CASE OF WINE, SIX BOTTLES.

I DIDN'T EVEN GO INSIDE.

THEY SAID, WHAT KIND OF WINE DO YOU WANT.

I SAID YOU GUYS KNOW.

SO THEY SAID, OKAY, BETWEEN THE 10 AND $15 RANGE?

AND I SAID, NO, SPECIAL OCCASION, LET'S GO 10 TO 20.

BUT, YOU KNOW, SO I'M -- I DIDN'T EVEN GO IN TO THE NEWSPAPER TO WRITE A COLUMN THIS WEEK.

AND I ALWAYS DO THAT.

UNFORTUNATELY, I STILL HAVE TO BE OUT A LITTLE BIT.

YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO BE AT THE CANCER CENTER EVERY OTHER WEEK FOR CHEMOTHERAPY AND I'M A V.A.

PATIENT AND ONE OF THE NOTES THAT THEY SENT WAS AVOID SICK PEOPLE.

I THOUGHT, WELL, THAT'S HARD TO DO WHEN YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE CANCER CENTER EVERY COUPLE WEEKS, BUT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, I'M AVOIDING PEOPLE AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT BECAUSE I AM SUCH A CHATTY PERSON.

>> WELL, SO GLAD TO HAVE YOU AS ALWAYS.

>> WHAT ABOUT YOU?

>> I'LL TELL YOU, KIND OF LIKE ALVIN, THE KIDS CAME HOME FROM COLLEGE AND THE CHEMISTRY OF THE HOME CHANGES QUITE A BIT, BUT WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE THEM.

YOU KNOW, WE WERE EMPTY NESTERS.

WE'RE NOT ANYMORE, SO WE'RE ALL STAYING INSIDE AND THE HOUSE SEEMS A LITTLE SMALLER RIGHT NOW THAN IT WAS, BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHAT.

IT'S -- IF THERE'S A SILVER LINING, IT'S GOOD TO SEE THE KIDS BACK.

I'LL PUT IT THAT WAY.

OTHER THAN THAT, WE ARE HERMITS AS WELL.

WENDY?

>> BOTH MY HUSBAND AND OUR OLDEST DAUGHTER, WHO LIVES IN THE CENTRAL WEST END, WORK FOR MERCY, SO THERE IS A GREAT DEAL OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE WAY THE HEALTHCARE SYSTEM IN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY, YOU KNOW, THE WAY IT'S BEING TACKLED.

I AM PERSONALLY, AS YOU SAID, ALVIN, I THINK THAT IT IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT TO BE AS POSITIVE AS YOU CAN POSSIBLY BE, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S REALLY TOUCHED ME THE MOST IS OUR NEIGHBORS, OUR FRIENDS AND OUR NEIGHBORS HERE IN ST.

LOUIS, PEOPLE BY AND LARGE, I KNOW THAT THERE CAN BE THE ONES WHO LET THEIR ANGER MAYBE GET OUT OF CONTROL, BUT I THINK BY AND LARGE, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HEROIC.

TRULY HEROIC, TRYING TO MAKE EVERYBODY FEEL BETTER INSTEAD OF RAISING THE LEVEL OR MOVING THE NEEDLE UP IN TERMS OF STRESS, I THINK EVERYBODY HAS EN DOWNPLAYING IT.

I AM -- I THINK PERSONALLY, ALSO, I AM VERY, VERY HYPERAWARE OF NOT FALLING.

I THINK WE ALL HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL WITH OUR OWN SAFETY AND WELL-BEING BECAUSE THE HEALTHCARE SYSTEM IS PREPARING TO BE OVERBURDENED, AND WE ALL HAVE TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO ADD TO THAT BURDEN.

SO THAT AND TRYING TO FIND FROZEN GREEN VEGETABLES, THAT IS -- THAT'S MY MISSION THIS WEEK.

AT THE RADIO STATION, WE ARE REALLY, REALLY VIGILANT ABOUT CLEANING AND DISINFECTING HARD SURFACES CONSTANTLY.

SO WE ARE DOWN TO REALLY A SKELTON -- SKELETON ON-AIR CREW, BUT LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, THERE'S SOMETHING VERY COMFORTING ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE'RE ALL IN THE SAME BOAT.

>> AND ONE OF THE SKELETONS.

>> THERE EASY.

>> WE'RE ASKING EVERYBODY NOT TO HOARD TOILET PAPER.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS HOARDING WINE WITH MY FELLOW FOUNDER.

>> ME EITHER.

>> OUR FAMILY IS, LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, SELF-QUARANTINING, EFFECTIVELY.

MY KIDS JUST HAVE A GREAT ATTITUDE ABOUT IT AND THEY'RE JUST -- THIS IS SPRING BREAK, FIRST OF ALL, BUT IT'S A -- YOU KNOW, THEY'RE JUST VERY GOOD ABOUT IT AND I BASICALLY GET UP.

MY DOG WANTS TO GET OUT TWO THREE TIMES A DAY, WE GO OUT, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, I GO TO THE RADIO STATION WHERE WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING REMOTELY AND THERE'S A LOT OF DISTANCE.

USUALLY TWO PEOPLE IN THE STATION WHEN I'M THERE AT 9:00, AND I THINK SERIOUSLY, KIND OF ECHO ALVIN'S POINT.

WHEN WE COME OUT OF THIS, I THINK THE FACT THAT WE ARE WORKING AS A COMMUNITY WITH THE HELP OF INSTITUTIONS LIKE CHANNEL 9 TO BEND THE CURVE TOGETHER IS SOMETHING WE OUGHT TO BE THINKING ABOUT.

WE LIVE IN THIS TIME OF POLARIZATION AND THE FACT THAT WE ARE HOPEFULLY ALL OF US WORKING TOGETHER TO BEND THE CURVE, WHEN WE GET ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS, WE OUGHT TO TAKE THAT WITH A SENSE OF PRIDE.

>> AND I'LL BE HONEST, I HAVE USED MORE HAND SANITIZER IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS THAN I HAVE IN MY LIFE.

>> MY HANDS ARE BLEEDING, I WASH THEM SO OFTEN.

>> I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE SKIN GRAFTS THAT WE'RE ALL GOING TO NEED AFTER OUR SKIN STARTS FALLING OFF.

>> HOLD THAT THOUGHT, BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO INTRODUCE TO OUR PROGRAM TONIGHT FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER, A SPECIAL EXPERT JOINING DONNYBROOK DURING THE PROGRAM, AND WE WELCOME DR.

GREGORY STORCH, A PROFESSOR OF MEDICINE AND MOLECULAR MICROBIOLOGY AT THE WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF MEDICINE.

HE'S ALSO THE RUTH L. SITEMAN PROFESSOR OF PEDIATRICSES.

HIS SPECIALTY, INFECTIOUS DISEASES.

DR.

GREG STORCH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

MAY I ASK YOU, HOW DO YOU THINK WE'RE DOING HERE IN ST.

LOUIS AND WHAT RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD YOU HAVE FOR OUR VIEWING AUDIENCE?

>> WELL, HI, CHARLIE, GLAD TO BE WITH YOU ALL.

I THINK THE FIRST THING IS THAT WE HAVE BENEFITED FROM BEING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE COUNTRY AND THE OUTBREAK OF COVID-19 IS SLOWER GETTING STARTED HERE THAN IN MOST OTHER PLACES.

THAT HAS GIVEN US SOME ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITY TO PREPARE.

AND I THINK THE PEOPLE IN THE METROPOLITAN AREA ARE DOING A GOOD JOB.

I THINK THE PRECAUTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT INTO PLACE, PROHIBITING OR AT LEAST DISCOURAGING GATHERINGS OF MORE THAN TEN PEOPLE, CLOSING RESTAURANTS AND SO FORTH, I THINK THESE ARE VERY UNFORTUNATE THAT THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO, BUT I THINK THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO, AND SO I THINK WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING.

>> VERY WELL.

WE ALREADY HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU FROM OUR LISTENING AUDIENCE AND IT COMES FROM JOHN IN WENTZVILLE.

HI, JOHN, WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION FOR DR.

STORCH?

>> IT SEEMS TO ME THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS BUG IS OUT THERE ALREADY.

IT'S GOING TO STAY OUT THERE UNTIL WE EITHER GET AN EFFECTIVE VACCINE, WHICH IS GOING TO TAKE ABOUT A YEAR, OR I'M NOT SURE ABOUT HOW THIS WORKS IN THE PUBLIC, BUT WHEN ENOUGH PEOPLE -- I MEAN, ARE PEOPLE GOING TO DEVELOP IMMUNITY TO THIS?

IF SO, THEN A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE GET IMMUNITY BEFORE THIS BUG DIES OUT.

OUR CURRENT MEASURES ARE JUST KIND OF FLATTENING OUT THE SPIKES, SO IT'S GOING TO PUSH IT OUT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THE SAME NUMBER OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET SICK, BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF PEOPLE STILL GETTING SICK EVEN IF WE FLATTEN THIS THING OUT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY WAY TO TREAT IT OR PREVENT IT IN TERMS OF VACCINE AND THE ONLY NATURAL WAY TO DO IT IS TO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE GET SO IT THAT -- >> OKAY, WAIT, HOLD OFF RIGHT THERE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, JOHN.

I THINK YOU SPOKE CLEARLY.

WHAT DO YOU THINK, DR.

STORCH?

>> WELL, IT'S A COMPLICATED QUESTION.

LET ME TACKLE IT IN A FEW WAYS.

ONE IS THAT HE IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, JOHN, THAT WE DON'T HAVE A VACCINE TO PREVENT THIS DISEASE AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY ESTABLISHED TREATMENT.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THIS IS SUCH A SERIOUS SITUATION BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE TOOLS THAT WE LIKE TO HAVE TO COUNTER INFECTIOUS DISEASES.

THE TOOLS THAT HAVE MADE THINGS VERY DIFFERENT FROM HOW THEY WERE IN THIS COUNTRY 100 YEARS AGO.

BUT WE ARE IN A SITUATION NOW THAT'S NOT TOO DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE WERE LIKE AT THE AT THE TIME OF THE SPANISH FLU IN 1918 BY NOT HAVING A VACCINE AND NOT HAVING TREATMENT.

SO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS UNDERTAKE BEHAVIORAL CHANGES AS A SOCIETY, AND THAT MAINLY CONSISTS OF SOCIAL DISTANCING, AND I THINK THE THINGS WE'RE DOING ARE UNPRECEDENTED.

WHO WOULD HAVE EVER THOUGHT THAT WE WOULD SEE THE PROFESSIONAL SPORTS TEAMS SUSPENDING THEIR SEASON, BROADWAY SHOWS STOPPING, AND SO FORTH?

BUT I HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT THOSE THINGS WILL HAVE SOME EFFECT IN SLOWING THE SPREAD OF THE VIRUS.

NOW, THERE IS JUST A FEW OCCASIONAL SHREDS OF OPTIMISM HERE, AND ONE IS THAT WE CAN LOOK TO SOME COUNTRIES, INCLUDING CHINA, AND SEE THAT THEY HAVE HAD SUCCESS IN NOT ONLY FLATTENING THE CURVE, BUT IN CHINA, APPARENTLY ALMOST ENDING TRANSMISSION OF THIS INFECTION THROUGH VERY STRICTLY IMPOSED BEHAVIORAL CHANGES.

AND SO I DO THINK THAT IF WE CARRY OUT THESE CHANGES, WE WILL CHANGE THE RATE OF TRANSMISSION OF THIS INFECTION.

NOW, THAT WILL NOT NECESSARILY PREVENT PEOPLE FROM BECOMING INFECTED, BUT IT WILL HOPEFULLY SLOW THINGS DOWN AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT IS THAT HOPEFULLY WILL PREVENT OUR HEALTHCARE SYSTEM FROM BECOMING OVERRUN.

YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GONE ON IN ITALY AND A FEW OTHER PLACES, THAT THEIR HEALTHCARE SYSTEMS HAVE BEEN PRESENTED WITH SO MANY SEVERELY ILL PATIENTS AT THE SAME TIME, THAT THEY CAN'T COPE AND THEY CAN'T PROVIDE THE LEVEL OF CARE THAT THEY WOULD OTHERWISE BE CAPABLE OF PREVENTING.

SO I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO SLOW DOWN THE TRANSMISSION OF THIS DISEASE.

>> OKAY.

>> AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS.

WE'LL HAVE TO SEE.

>> RIGHT.

AND FOLLOWING UP ON THAT -- THANK YOU, DR.

STORCH.

LET'S GET BACK TO OUR PANEL HERE.

RAY HARTMANN, THE GOVERNOR OF MISSOURI, MIKE PARSON, HAS NOT CLOSED THE RESTAURANTS AND THE SCHOOLS, UNLIKE GOVERNOR J.B.

PRITZKER IN ILLINOIS.

HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT?

NOW, AS WE KNOW, CERTAIN COUNTIES HAVE ENDED DINING IN RESTAURANTS AS WELL AS CLOSED SCHOOLS AND SOME SCHOOL DISTRICTS, OF COURSE, HAVE, BUT IT LOOKS AS THOUGH THE APPROACH BY PARSON IS QUITE DIFFERENT FROM PRITZKER.

WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT?

>> I WOULD SAY I'M PUZZLED AND DISGUSTED AT THE SAME TIME.

WE JUST ARE SAYING WE WANT TO NOT POLITICIZE THIS, WANT TO MAKE IT BIPARTISAN AND PULL THE CURVE, BEND THE CURVE TOGETHER.

NOT ONLY GOVERNOR PRITZKER, BUT GOVERNOR PRITZKER AND 37 OTHER GOVERNORS.

THERE'S 38 STATES THAT HAVE CLOSED THE SCHOOLS AND THEY JUST HAD A SESSION IN WHICH THE REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURE -- AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT IT IS -- BASICALLY REFUSED TO GIVE APPROPRIATION AUTHORITY TO MIKE PARSON WHO'S THE GOVERNOR FOR EMERGENCY STUFF.

THEIR OWN GUY.

THEY DIDN'T GIVE HIM APPROPRIATIONS.

THIS ISN'T PARTISAN, WHEN I SAY IT, THEY BASICALLY GAVE $40 MILLION, 33 MILLION OF IT WHICH WAS FEDERAL MONEY, SO EFFECTIVELY, WHEN THEY WENT DOWN THERE SAYING THEY WERE GOING TO DO THIS BUDGET THING, THEY BASICALLY SAID NOTHING TO SEE HERE.

IT'S REALLY REMARKABLY SAD.

>> WELL, YOU KNOW, RAY, I THINK THAT HE SHOULD -- I THINK THE GOVERNOR SHOULD HAVE CLOSED THE SCHOOLS, BUT I'M NEITHER PUZZLED NOR DISGUSTED THAT HE DIDN'T.

I MEAN, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF POLITICAL CALCULUS, I THINK, THAT MOST OF HIS BASE IN RURAL RED MISSOURI STILL THINKS THIS MIGHT BE A MEDIA HYPE, AND SECONDLY, IT'S EASY TO BE BEHIND THE CURVE ON THIS THING.

I'VE BEEN BEHIND THE CURVE.

I MEAN, JUST LAST WEEK, MY DAUGHTER AND GRANDDAUGHTER WERE DOWNTOWN AND I SAID, HEY, LET'S GO TO CHURCH AT CHARLIE GITO'S AND THAT WAS JUST A WEEK AGO.

I THINK, WELL, I SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE THAT.

SO THE FACT THAT THE GOVERNOR IS BEHIND THE CURVE, UNDERSTANDABLE.

PEOPLE ARE CONFUSED.

>> MY THOUGHT ON IT IS THAT ONE THING HE SAID HE WANTED TO LEAVE THIS UP TO THE LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

THE MAJORITY OF LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS DID NOT WANT TO START SCHOOL UNTIL, LIKE, LABOR DAY, AND THE LEGISLATURE PLACED ALL KIND OF, YOU KNOW, LIBERTIES WITH LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND TELLS THEM WHAT TO DO.

SO YOU CAN'T LEAN ON THAT DEFENSE, OKAY?

SO IF YOU'RE NOT REALLY LETTING LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, ALL RIGHT?

WELL THEN YOU'RE BEING HYPOCRITICAL.

THIS IS A LITTLE POLITICAL.

>> WELL, CONVERSELY, OUR FRIEND RAY AND MAYBE MOST OF US ARE ALWAYS IN FAVOR OF LOCAL CONTROL, RIGHT?

AND THIS IS ONE CASE WHERE THE GOVERNOR IS GIVING US LOCAL CONTROL, AND WE DON'T LIKE IT.

>> WELL, THE GOVERNOR IN AN INTERVIEW TODAY FROM JEFFERSON CITY, A PRESS CONFERENCE, HE BASICALLY -- HE BASICALLY SIDED WITH SMALL BUSINESS AND HE SAID AS MUCH.

HE SAID, IT'S MUCH EASIER -- HE SAID IT'S MUCH EASIER SAID THAN DONE TO CLOSE DOWN BUSINESSES BECAUSE, HE SAID, I HAVE BEEN A SMALL BUSINESS PERSON AND I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO FACE MAKING PAYROLL.

AND WHAT LEAVES ME COMPLETELY MYSTIFIED ABOUT THAT, AS MYSTIFIED AS I AM ABOUT THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THE BEACHES IN FLORIDA WHO WILL FLY BACK THROUGH ALL OF THEIR METROPOLITAN AIRPORTS AROUND THE COUNTRY, BRINGING HEAVY KNOWS WHAT WITH THEM, THIS IS A -- THIS IS A PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY CUSTOMERS, MR.

SMALL BUSINESS PERSON, AND I JUST -- I THINK THAT THIS IS THE TIME FOR LEADERSHIP.

>> WELL, LET ME -- >> REAL SOLID LEADERSHIP.

>> LET ME BRING IN BILL BECAUSE YOU'RE A NATIVE OF ILLINOIS AND THE GOVERNOR THERE, J.B.

PRITZKER, DID NOT POSTPONE THE ELECTIONS LAST TUESDAY.

WE HAD, OF COURSE, THE ILLINOIS PRIMARY.

JOE BIDEN BEAT BERNIE.

WELL, A LOT OF SENIORS, I GET, BINT WANT TO WORK THE POLLS, A LOT OF SENIORS PROBABLY DIDN'T WANT TO VOTE.

MIKE DEWINE, THE GOVERNOR OF OHIO, SAID, HEY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE AN OHIO PRIMARY DURING THE MIDDLE OF THIS PANDEMIC.

DO YOU THINK PRITZKER DID THE RIGHT THING?

>> NO, I THINK THAT WAS A TERRIBLE DECISION.

I THINK THAT HE SHOULD HAVE CLOSED THE ELECTIONS.

THAT'S A STATE THING, IT'S A PUBLIC THING.

IT'S JUST ASTOUNDING TO ME THAT HE WOULDN'T AND HAD TO CALL FOR VOLUNTEERS TO GO WORK THE POLLS.

I MEAN, THAT'S JUST TERRIBLE JUDGMENT ON THE GOVERNOR OF ILLINOIS'S PART.

>> AND THIS WAS AFTER VERY HEAVY-HANDED REMARKS ABOUT THE BARS AND RESTAURANTS, PRITZKER PLAYED IN THE DAYS, MAYBE 72 HOURS LEADING UP TO THE PRIMARY.

VERY HEAVY-HANDED AND THEN DON'T FORGET TO VOTE.

THERE'S A REAL MISMATCH, HODGEPODGE IN TERMS OF LEADERSHIP RIGHT NOW.

>> LOGISTICS SHOULD NOT MATTER, BUT IT DOES.

ILLINOIS IS A BIG STATE AND MAYBE TO THROW A WRENCH IN THAT MECHANISM OF HAVING THE PRIMARY, JUST RATHER THAN RESTART BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO RESTART AGAIN, THIS IS LIKE, YEAH, THIS IS THE LAST THING, BUT WE ARE GOING TO VOTE.

IT STAND BEHIND HIM ON THAT ONLY BECAUSE WE CAN GET IT OUT OF THE WAY AND THAT'S THAT.

>> OH, ALVIN.

>> I JUST HEARD, JUST GOT WORD THAT THE GOVERNOR TONIGHT IN MISSOURI DID CLOSE THE SCHOOLS STATEWIDE AT 5:30 P.M.

>> NO, HE DID IT JUST AFTER HE -- >> HE'S BEHIND THE CURVE.

>> NO, I THINK HE HEARD US.

WHY DID YOU HAVE TO SAY IT WAS 5:30.

YOU COULD HAVE SAID WE GOT DONE TALKING AND THE GOVERNOR -- >> AND THE GOVERNOR FLIPPED THE SWITCH.

>> WE COULD HAVE TAKEN CREDIT FOR THIS.

I WILL SAY THIS, THAT I ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW -- I GUESS IT'S TOO LATE TO DECIDE ON ILLINOIS.

I'M KIND OF LIKE IT'S -- IT'S AMAZING IN CORONAVIRUS YEARS, THAT WAS LIKE FOUR YEARS AGO, YOU KNOW.

>> YEAH.

>> THIS THING IS MOVING SO FAST.

I DO THINK, TO BILL'S POINT, THAT GOVERNOR PRITZKER HAS BEEN SENDING SOME MIXED MESSAGES AND THAT'S, I THINK, FRUSTRATING ON BOTH SIDES OF THE RIVER TO RESIDENTS WHEN THEY HEAR ONE THING IS OKAY AND ANOTHER THING ISN'T, AND THEY SEE SOME PLACES WHERE YOU CAN CONGREGATE.

I'LL TELL YOU WHO -- NOT TO PLUG MYSELF, BUT WHO'S DONE A VERY GOOD JOB, I THINK, IS METRO.

WE DON'T TALK ABOUT IT MUCH, BUT METRO HAS ALL THE TRAINS RUNNING, THEY'RE SCRUBBING EVERYTHING DOWN, THE CARS, THE METROLINK CARS, AND SHOUT OUT TO TALBY ROACH.

I THINK HE'S DONE THE RIGHT THING.

TO SEND UP TO CHICAGO TO PICK UP GLOVES, THE DRIVERS SAID WE WANT GLOVES, HE LITERALLY GOT TO SEND HIS COLLEGE -- THAT'S A GREAT STORY.

I THINK HE DESERVES CREDIT.

>> I LOVE MASS TRANSPORTATION, BUT I THINK THERE'S NEVER BEEN A BETTER TIME TO BE THE DRIVER OF AN AUTOMOBILE AND TO BE DRIVING ALONE.

LET'S GET A FEW CALLS IN AND WE'LL SEE WHAT DR.

GREG STORCH HAS TO SAY.

LET'S GO TO REGGIE IN NECESSARILY VILMEHLVILLE.

HI, REGGIE, THANKS FOR JOINING DONNYBROOK.

REGGIE?

HE MAY NOT BE THERE ANYMORE.

JOHN IN FENTON, LET'S SEE IF HE'S AVAILABLE.

HI, JOHN.

WILL IN CHESTERFIELD.

OKAY, WILL, TAKE IT AWAY.

HOLD THAT THOUGHT.

LET'S GO TO GREG STORCH AND -- DOCTOR, YOU'RE AN EXPERT ON INFECTIOUS DISEASES.

HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT SOME SCHOOLS NOT BEING CLOSED, NOT ALL RESTAURANTS CLOSED -- >> DAYCARE CENTERS.

>> -- DAYCARE CENTERS.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A HODGEPODGE BECAUSE THEY'RE SAYING NO FUNERALS WITH MORE THAN TEN PEOPLE.

THAT WOULDN'T INCLUDE SOME PEOPLE'S IMMEDIATE FAMILY.

THEN YOU ALSO HAVE -- DAYCARE CENTERS ARE OPEN AS I SAID.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE SOCIAL DISTANCING AND THE PUBLIC POLICY, DOCTOR?

>> I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO MOVE AHEAD THE CURVE AND TRY TO CARRY OUT AS MUCH SOCIAL DISTANCING AS POSSIBLE AND THINGS THAT BRING TOGETHER GROUPS OF MORE THAN TEN PEOPLE POTENTIALLY SERVE AS AMPLIFICATION POINTS FOR THIS OUTBREAK.

IN OTHER WORDS, A PERSON WHO'S INFECTED AND CONTAGIOUS COMES INTO A SITUATION WHERE THERE'S 40 OR 50 PEOPLE GATHERED AROUND AND MAY INFECT A NUMBER OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME AT AN EVENT LIKE THAT AND REALLY ACCELERATE THE OUTBREAK.

THE MORE WE PREVENT THOSE KINDS OF GATHERINGS, THE BETTER OFF WE'RE GOING TO BE FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE SPREAD OF THIS VIRUS.

>> AND WE UNDERSTAND FROM SOME RESEARCH IN THE LANCET, THE RESEARCH MEDICAL JOURNAL AND ELSEWHERE, STUDENTS DON'T SEEM TO BE GETTING IN CORONAVIRUS, AT LEAST IN GREAT NUMBERS.

IS THAT CORRECT?

>> DID YOU SAY STUDENTS?

>> YEAH, THE YOUNG.

>> YEAH.

>> PEOPLE BETWEEN ZERO AND 9 YEARS OLD.

GO AHEAD.

>> IT'S DEFINITELY TRUE THAT AGE IS A VERY IMPORTANT FACTOR IN DETERMINING HOW SEVERE THIS INFECTION IS.

THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT IT'S MORE SEVERE IN GENERAL IN PEOPLE OVER THE AGE OF 60 AND THE FATALITY RATE IS HIGHER IN THAT AGE GROUP.

MOST CASES IN CHILDREN OR TEENAGERS ARE VERY MILD.

YOUNG ADULTS, ALSO GENERALLY MILE, BUT THEY HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THERE ARE OCCASIONALLY SOME CASES THAT ARE QUITE SEVERE.

THEY CAN'T ASSUME THAT IF THEY GET IT, IT'S GOING TO BE MILD.

AND THEY ALSO HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT IF THEY BECOME INFECTED, THEY MAY BE CAPABLE OF TRANSMITTING THE VIRUS TO OTHER PEOPLE FOR SEVERAL WEEKS, AND THEY MAY COME IN CONTACT WITH FAMILY MEMBERS OR OTHERS WHO ARE OLDER OR WHO HAVE COMPROMISING MEDICAL CONDITIONS, FOR WHOM THE INFECTION COULD BE VERY, VERY DANGEROUS.

SO I THINK IT'S UNFORTUNATE IF YOUNG PEOPLE ARE CAVALIER ABOUT THIS AND DON'T TAKE APPROPRIATE PRECAUTIONS.

>> RAY HARTMANN.

>> I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE -- I'LL SHOW MY AGE BY NOT KNOWING WHO SPECIFICALLY TO SUGGEST FOR THIS, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME PSAs AND SOME MESSAGING BY FOLKS THAT THE GENERATION Z OR WHATEVER IS LISTENING TO.

>> IT'S HAPPENING.

IT IS HAPPENING.

>> BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT.

ONE OF THE THINGS I HEARD, YOU KNOW, GOING BY MY TITLE OKAY BOOMER, IS PEOPLE MY AGE, YOU KNOW, CRYING OUT ABOUT THE KIDS ON THE BEACH, SAYING PLEASE, YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND.

EVEN IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO DIE FROM THIS, YOU STILL CAN CARRY THE DISEASE AND THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING TO GRANDPA AND GRANDMA.

>> AMEN.

>> AND THAT MESSAGING COMING FROM MY GENERATION IS NOT, I THINK, WHAT WE NEED TO HEAR.

WE NEED IT TO BE MORE ORGANIC FROM GENERATION Z.

>> WELL, KILEY JENNER AND PEOPLE HER -- IS IT KEVIN DURAND, IS THERE A -- >> KEVIN DURAND.

>> KEVIN DURAND, THEY ARE GOING WALL-TO-WALL ON INSTAGRAM.

I THINK WE'VE CHASED ALL THE MILLENNIALS OFF OF FACEBOOK AND TWITTER, BUT NOW THEY'RE ALL ON INSTAGRAM AND SNAPCHAT AND OTHER PLATFORMS, BUT THEY ARE BEING TOLD.

THAT MESSAGE IS GETTING OUT.

>> AND, YOU KNOW, BILL, BEHIND THE CURVE, I JUST WANT TO GO BY THAT REAL QUICK.

I GET THAT, BUT OKAY, NO EXCUSE BECAUSE EVERY PROFESSIONAL SPORTS TEAM, EVERY COLLEGIATE GAME AT EVERY LEVEL, 49 STATES OUT OF 50, CALLED IT ALL OFF.

AND MISSOURI IS STILL -- WAS STILL PLANNING TO HAVE THEIR HIGH SCHOOL BASKETBALL STATE TOURNAMENT.

>> RIGHT.

>> THE LAST ONE.

>> WELL, THAT -- >> THAT STUFF IS JUST -- >> THAT'S MISSOURI, THOUGH T ALVIN.

WE'RE 48th, 49th ALL THE TIME.

>> WELL, MAYBE WE CAN DO BETTER.

LET'S GO TO THE PHONES.

BOB IN BRIDGETON HAS BEEN WAITING TO JOIN US.

BOB, TAKE IT AWAY.

>> Caller: GOOD EVENING, YES.

I NOTICED YOU PEOPLE HAVE SEPARATED YOURSELF.

>> RIGHT.

>> Caller: MY COMMENT IS HERE IN BRIDGETON, WE HAVE SEVERAL CLOTHING STORES, SHOPPING STRIP MALLS, AND THEY WERE FLOODED WITH CHILDREN TODAY, YOUNG PEOPLE.

THEY'RE CLIMBING ALL OVER EACH OTHER, THEY'RE TRYING TO CLOTHES, THEY'RE TOUCHING EVERYTHING, AND WHAT'S UNIQUE IS THEY COME DOWN THE -- THESE ARE THE ONLY STORES FROM BRIDGETON THAT YOU CAN -- CLOTHING STORES TO THE CITY OF ST.

LOUIS.

THERE'S NOTHING ELSE.

IT'S A VERY UNIQUE SITUATION.

OKAY?

I THINK THEY SHOULD LOCK THE STUDENTS IN THE SCHOOLS.

I THINK THEY SHOULD MEET THEM AT THE DOOR WITH A MASK, SPRAY THEM DOWN, SEPARATE THEM LIKE YOU PEOPLE ARE, AND THEN TEACHER THEM HOW TO HANDLE THIS VIRUS.

WE DON'T NEED THEM RUNNING AROUND ALL OVER TOWN.

>> THAT'S AN INTERESTING POINT.

THANKS A LOT AND IT DOES TURN OUT THAT IN THE COUNTY AND THE CITY, THE CITY HAS BANNED PUBLIC GATHERINGS GREATER THAN TEN EXCEPT IN WORKPLACES AND, OF COURSE, DOCTOR'S OFFICES AND FOR SOME REASON IN STORES THAT ARE NOT ATTACHED TO MALLS.

AT LEAST THAT'S THE RULE IN THE COUNTY.

THE COUNTY HAS, I THINK, PROHIBITED GROUPS GREATER THAN NINE, SO I GUESS LIKE THE STORES IN BRIDGETON WOULD BE EXEMPT FROM THE BAN ON LARGE GATHERINGS, WHICH IS KIND OF SURPRISING TO ME.

>> AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE MORE CONSISTENT.

THIS ISN'T LIKE SOME KIND OF GAME.

I MEAN, THESE ARE PUBLIC HEALTH EXPERTS ALL OVER THE -- THE VERY BRIGHTEST, AND I HATE TO DISAGREE WITH MY FELLOW FOUNDER ON THIS BECAUSE WHILE IT MAY BE GOOD COLUMN FODDER, I'M TIRED OF IT.

FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE THINGS I HEARD STATES ARE DOING, I THINK IT WAS THE REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR OF OHIO, HAS REQUIRED THAT ELECTIVE SURGERIES NOT BE GOING FORWARD.

>> RIGHT.

>> THAT TO ME IS A VERY COMMONSENSE THING, BECAUSE WE'RE WORRIED -- >> BUT THAT JUST HAPPENED WITHIN THE LAST HOUR IN -- I MEAN, IT'S BEEN A COUPLE OF DAYS, BUT WE JUST WERE RECEIVING BULLETINS IN OUR PHONE BEFORE WE WENT TO AIR THAT ALL OF THESE ELECTIVE SURGERIES HAVE BEEN POSTPONED -- >> ACROSS THE COUNTRY NOW?

>> NO, ACROSS ST.

LOUIS.

>> OH, ACROSS ST.

LOUIS?

AGAIN, IT'S THE TYPE THING, IF THE GOVERNOR, AND HE'S A REPUBLICAN, OF OHIO CAN THINK OF THIS, WHY AREN'T ME ON ANYTHING THINKING AHEAD?

AND MAYBE TO YOUR POINT, IT'S POLITICAL MESSAGING.

I JUST THINK WE SHOULD BE -- >> I AGREE WITH YOU.

>> I DON'T MEAN TO BE DEFENDING THIS, BUT I REMEMBER SEEING A T-SHIRT A FEW YEARS AGO LONG BEFORE ALL THIS STARTED, AND IT SAID IN THE BEGINNING OF AN EVERY HORROR MOVIE, A SCIENTIST IS IGNORED, AND I THOUGHT THAT ABOUT LATELY.

MAYBE THE YOUNGER GENERATION WOULD BE MORE ATTUNED TO A T-SHIRT, WENDY, THAN -- >> THAT'S A GREAT LINE.

>> GOOD SOCIAL MESSAGING, YEAH.

>> OKAY, LET'S ASK DR.

GREG STORCH THEN, MAYBE YOU CAN WEIGH IN BECAUSE AS IT TURNS OUT, IN THE COUNTY, YOU CAN'T HAVE LARGE GATHERINGS UNTIL THEY'RE IN CERTAIN PLACES LIKE A STORE THAT'S NOT ATTACHED TO A MALL.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE WHILE YOU'RE TELLING PEOPLE THEY CAN'T HAVE MORE THAN TEN PEOPLE AT A FUNERAL.

HOW DO YOU STAND ON THIS, DOCTOR?

>> I THINK THE VIRUS DOESN'T RECOGNIZE THOSE DISTINCTIONS AND I'M SURPRISED TO HEAR THAT EXCEPTION ABOUT STORES BECAUSE CERTAINLY THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE CLOSE TOGETHER IN A STORE, THE STORE IS CROWDED, THERE IS GOING TO BE RISK OF TRANSMISSION OF THE VIRUS.

>> LET'S GO TO APHIM IN CHESTERFIELD.

>> Caller: HELLO, I'M ALSO AN INFECTIOUS DISEASE TRAINED PEDIATRICIAN.

I'M QUITE WORRIED.

THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS SOCIAL DISTANCING IS SO ALL THE INC.

FECTIONS DON'T HAPPEN AT ONCE, SO YOU DON'T OVERWHELM THE HEALTHCARE SYSTEM, AND YOU HAVE TO FACT BEFORE IT SEEMS OBVIOUS.

WHEN IT'S OBVIOUS TO ACT, IT'S WAY TOO LATE.

AND THE FACT THAT MISSOURI IS ONE OUT OF JUST A HANDFUL OF STATES THAT HASN'T INSTITUTED STATEWIDE MEASURES IS QUITE CONCERNING.

YES, DR.

STORCH, WE'VE BEEN GIVEN A HEADSTART, BUT FRANKLY, WE'RE WASTING THAT HEAD START WE'VE BEEN GIVEN.

IT'S AS IF WHEN CHINA HAD CASES, THE U.S.

SAW IT, THEY WERE GIVEN A HEAD START AND THEY ALSO WASTED THAT TIME.

EVERY DAY THAT GOES BY IS COSTING LIVES TO THE STATE OF MISSOURI AND FOR THE 20-YEAR-OLDS AND 30 THE-YEAR-OLDS, WENDY, THE HEALTHCARE SYSTEM IS OVERWHELMED.

YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO GO INTO THE HOSPITAL TO GET THE CARE FOR THE THINGS THAT YOU DON'T EXPECT, LIKE A CAR ACCIDENT OR A HEART ATTACK OR A DIABETIC ISSUE BECAUSE THE HEALTHCARE SYSTEM WILL BE COMPLETELY OVERWHELMED.

WE HAD TO ACT YESTERDAY AND WE'RE JUST SITTING HERE IDLING BY.

>> THANK YOU, DOCTOR.

WENDY?

>> AND DR.

STORCH, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, YESTERDAY AT THE WHITE HOUSE BRIEFING, THE POINT WAS MADE QUITE EMPHATICALLY THAT MILLENNIALS REALLY ARE -- THEY ARE NOT IMMUNE FROM THIS, AND THAT THEY ARE SEEING FROM ITALY, THEY ARE SEEING CASES COMING UP WHERE MILLENNIALS ARE BEING VERY HARD-HIT BY THIS.

SO I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO GET A VERY CONSISTENT MESSAGE OUT AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THEY ARE NOT IMMUNE WHEN, REALLY, FOR THE PAST SIX OR SEVEN WEEKS, WE'VE BEEN TELLING THEM THAT THEY ARE IMMUNE.

IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING AS WELL IN TERMS THE THREAT TO MILLENNIALS?

>> YES, I THINK YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE STUDY THAT CAME OUT IN THE LAST DAY THAT SHOWED THAT 38% OF SEVERE CASES, OF ICU CASES, ARE IN THE 40 TO 65 PEER AGE GROUP AND I THINK THAT CAUGHT A LOT OF PEOPLE'S ATTENTION.

WE DO HAVE TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT THAT EVEN THOUGH IN YOUNG PEOPLE, THE MAJORITY OF CASES ARE NOT TERRIBLY SEVERE, THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE, AND IT BEHOOVES THEM TO BE VERY CAREFUL, TO TAKE PRECAUTIONS NOT TO ACQUIRE THIS DANGEROUS VIRUS.

>> LET'S GO TO JOHN IN FENTON.

HI, JOHN, WHAT'S YOUR COMMENT OR QUESTION?

>> Caller: YES.

MY QUESTION REGARDS A NEWS ARTICLE THAT WAS ON THE NEWS THIS EVENING ABOUT THE ABILITY TO KNOW WHO, IN FACT, IN YOUR AREA TESTS POSITIVE.

NOW, I KNOW THERE'S A MEDICAL PROBLEM WITH, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO IDENTIFY A PERSON'S CONDITION, BUT UNDER THESE CIRCUMSTANCES, IT SEEMS IT WOULD BE VERY GOOD IDEA TO KNOW PERSONALLY EVERYONE, TO KNOW WHO HAS TESTED POSITIVE SO THAT WE, ONE, CAN HELP THEM, AND TWO, THAT WE IDENTIFY WHETHER WE'VE BEEN IN -- >> THAT'S A GOOD POINT, BILL.

WE'RE BALANCING PRIVACY AS WELL AS PUBLIC HEALTH, RIGHT?

>> WELL, I THINK THAT PEOPLE ARE JUST TOO IRRATIONAL, JOHN, TO GIVE OUT THE NAMES OF PEOPLE WHO ARE INFECTED.

I MEAN, I WOULDN'T WANT THE RESPONSIBILITY.

I WAS UNHAPPY WITH THE FELLOW WHO TOOK HIS DAUGHTER TO THE DAUGHTER-FATHER DANCE, BUT TO MAKE HIS NAME PUBLIC, THERE WOULD BE CROWDS ON HIS LAWN.

I MEAN, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT ANYBODY WOULD DO.

PEOPLE ARE NOT RATIONAL RIGHT NOW, AND THAT'S BEEN TRUE FOR A WHILE, EVEN BEFORE THIS CORONAVIRUS, SO I WOULD DEFINITELY BE AGAINST PUTTING OUT THE NAME.

>> I'M WITH BILL, TOO.

I THINK THIS IS -- TALK ABOUT HIPAA AND PRIVACY, THIS IS MEDICAL AND I REALLY CAN'T SEE ANY SCENARIO UNDER WHICH THERE'S ANY BENEFIT.

OBVIOUSLY SOMEONE WHO DOES TEST POSITIVE NEEDS TO BE QUARANTINED.

YOU MENTIONED THAT PERSON.

FORTUNATELY, HE TURNED OUT TO BE NEGATIVE, BUT I THINK THAT ABSOLUTELY, THAT BILL IS RIGHT, THAT YOU CAN'T EVEN GO THERE, I'M SORRY.

>> AND THE CASES ARE INCREASING, NOT EXPONENTIALLY, BUT THEY ARE -- WE ARE ALREADY SEEING A DRAMATIC INCREASE IN THESE CASES, AND SO IT WOULD -- I MEAN, I AGREE WITH BOTH OFFIO, BUT JUST FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT, THAT'S JUST NOT POSSIBLE.

>> WE JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PITCHFORKS ANYMORE.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

>> I DON'T KNOW.

DO YOU THINK THERE'S A PUBLIC SAFETY ANGLE TO THIS, DOCTOR STORCH?

AND BY THE WAY, DO ANY COUNTRIES OUT THE INDIVIDUALS WHO TEST POSITIVE, OR DOES EVERY COUNTRY SEEM TO ASSURE PRIVACY TO THOSE WHO ARE AFFLICTED?

>> YEAH, WELL, THIS IS AN INTERESTING QUESTION.

AND, OF COURSE, COUNTRIES HAVE DIFFERENT STANDARDS, DIFFERENT CULTURES.

IN SINGAPORE OR IN TAIWAN, THEY ACTUALLY DO MAKE AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE THE LOCATION OF POSITIVE CASES WITH THE IDEA THAT THEN OTHER PEOPLE CAN AVOID GOING TO THOSE AREAS.

THEY DON'T IDENTIFY INDIVIDUALS.

THE PUBLIC POLICY DECISIONS ARE DIFFICULT BECAUSE THEY HAVE RAMIFICATIONS BOTH POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE.

IF WE WENT THE DIRECTION OF ACTUALLY IDENTIFYING CASES, WHICH I DON'T THINK IS UNDER DISCUSSION AT ALL, BUT IF WE DID, ONE OF THE VERY SERIOUS ADVERSE CONSEQUENCES IS THAT PEOPLE WOULD NOT GET TESTED.

THEY WOULD BE AFRAID OF GETTING TESTED.

THAT WOULD BE -- THAT WOULD HAVE A VERY BAD PUBLIC HEALTH EFFECT BECAUSE WE NEED TO KNOW WHO'S INFECTED SO THE PROPER QUARANTINING CAN TAKE PLACE, SO PEOPLE CAN GET MEDICAL CARE THEY NEED.

>> DR.

STORCH, WOULD THERE BE A BENEFIT IN CERTAIN PARTS OF THE COUNTRY, WE'VE SEEN THESE SHELTER IN PLACE POLICIES.

I MEAN, THAT IS OBVIOUSLY VERY DRAMATIC, BUT WOULD THERE BE A BENEFIT TO HAVING SORT OF A ROLLING TWO-WEEK TYPE QUARANTINE TO BREAK THE CHAIN OR TO GIVE HOSPITALS A CHANCE TO STAY ON TOP OF THE NEWLY DIAGNOSED?

IS THERE -- WOULD THERE BE ANY ADVANTAGE THERE?

>> WELL, I THINK THAT'S AN INTERESTING IDEA.

YOU KNOW, I THINK WE HAVE TO MAKE ASSESSMENTS, REASSESSMENTS ON A DAY-BY-DAY BASIS, AND IF WE TAKE A SET OF MEASURES AND WE CONTINUE TO SEE SPREAD, THEN I THINK WE HAVE TO TIGHTEN UP ON THOSE MEASURES.

>> NOW, ONE MEASURE, WENDY, IS TO RELEASE INMATES WHO ARE AT THE ST.

LOUIS WORKHOUSE OR IN THE COUNTY JAIL, THE COUNTY PROSECUTOR WESLEY BELL, THE CITY CIRCUIT ATTORNEY KIM GARDNER, HAVE BOTH SUGGESTED THAT THOSE WHO ARE AWAITING TRIAL AND WHO, OF COURSE, HAVEN'T BEEN CONVICTED, AND AREN'T IN JAIL FOR A SERIOUS VIOLENT ALLEGATION, THAT THEY SHOULD BE RELEASED BECAUSE THE JAILS WILL JUST BE INCUBATORS OF CONTAGION AND THAT THESE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE STILL, YOU KNOW, PRESUMED INNOCENT, COULD BE CONTRACTING THIS DISEASE THROUGH MAYBE NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS?

>> WELL, I KNOW THAT THAT'S ALSO A QUESTION AT THE STATE LEVEL FOR GOVERNOR PARSON, GETTING BACK TO THE STATE.

THE ACLU IS TRYING TO CONVINCE THE GOVERNOR TO THINK ABOUT THAT.

AS LONG AS SOMEBODY IS NOT A VIOLENT OFFENDER AND AS LONG AS THEY ARE MONITORED IN SOME WAY, I'M FINE WITH THAT.

IF THEY -- IF THEY'RE VIOLENT, IF THEY ARE -- IF THEY POSE A DANGER OR A THREAT TO SOCIETY IN ANY WAY, YOU KNOW, I'M VERY, VERY SORRY, YOU CAN PRACTICE SOCIAL DISTANCING IN PRISON PERHAPS IF YOU DECREASE THE POPULATION BY LETTING THE -- OR THE WORKHOUSES BY LETTING SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE LESSER CRIMINALS, IF YOU WILL, GO FREE.

>> CASE-BY-CASE BASIS, I GUESS.

BUT I -- IT JUST -- YOU EVER HAVE AN ISSUE WHERE YOU SAY WHY MI JUST NOT ALL ON BOARD -- AM I JUST NOT ALL ON BOARD FOR THIS?

AND FOR SOME REASON, I'M JUST NOT.

I DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT SOUND LIKE SHOULD YOU SHOULD BE IN STRIS SON OR SHOULD BE IN JAIL -- GOO YOU MEAN WITH LETTING THEM GO?

>> LETTING THEM GO.

WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER AND WE'RE ALL TRYING TO PULL THROUGH TOGETHER.

LET'S PULL US ALL THROUGH AND, YOU KNOW, THE INCARCERATED, LET'S FIGURE OUT MAYBE AFTER WE'RE A LITTLE BIT FARTHER DOWN TT THE ROAD.

>> WOULDN'T WE JUST ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS, LIKE WENDY SAYS, LET THE NONVIOLENT OFFENDERS GO, AND IF THEY OFFEND AGAIN, THROW THEM BACK IN, BUT I THINK THIS IS A TIME TO BE THINKING ABOUT OUR COMMON HUMANITY AND GIVE THEM A BIT OF A BREAK.

>> I'M ALL IN AND FIRST OF ALL, BOTH WESLEY BELL AND KIM GARDNER ARE TALKING ABOUT A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS.

THEY'RE NOT SAYING -- >> OPEN THE DOORS, YEAH.

>> THEY BOTH SPECIFIED VERY CLEARLY, VERY CLEARLY, THAT IT'S NONVIOLENT PEOPLE WHO ARE SPECIFICALLY NOT DEEMED TO BE A THREAT TO SOCIETY, AND WE ALREADY -- I MEAN, IT SHOULDN'T TAKE COVID-19 TO GET US TO THIS, BUT WE ALREADY WAREHOUSE TOO MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T BEEN CONVICTED OF ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY'RE POOR AND CAN'T FIND BAIL, AND SO I THINK -- >> ABSOLUTELY, THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER ARGUMENT.

>> I GET IT, BUT I THINK ALREADY -- >> BUT REMEMBER -- >> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.

>> WHEN THIS ISSUE WAS BROUGHT UP WITH JUDGE JIMMIE EDWARDS, THE PUBLIC SAFETY DIRECTOR NOW WITH QUITE A BIT OF EXPERIENCE IN THIS AREA, EITHER BRINGS OUR THE SHEET OF ALL THOSE WHO ARE IN THE WORKHOUSE AND I LOOKED AT IT MOST RECENTLY AND THERE WAS ONE GUY IN THERE WHO WAS IN THERE FOR DRIVING WITHOUT A CHAUFFEUR'S LICENSE.

I WOULD LET HIM OUT.

BUT BY AND LARGE, EVERYONE ELSE ON THE SHEET WAS THERE FOR A REAL SERIOUS VIOLENT OFFENSE.

>> THEN THEY SHOULDN'T BE LET OUT.

>> SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD BE LET OUT.

DR.

STORCH, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS?

SHOULD THE INCARCERATED BE LET OUT IF THEY DON'T -- IF THEY'RE IN JAIL FOR NONVIOLENT OFFENSES?

>> WELL, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THE INFECTIOUS DISEASE PERSPECTIVE ON THIS, AND THAT IS THAT FACILITIES, INCARCERATION FACILITIES ARE TAILOR-MADE FOR SPREAD OF INFECTIOUS DISEASES, AND BY HAVING A LARGE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE CLOSE TOGETHER, WE RISK A REALLY CATASTROPHIC SITUATION.

AND IT COULD THEN SPILL OUT, IT COULD INVOLVE WORKERS IN THE PRISONS.

IT COULD SPILL OUT INTO THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES, SO I THINK IT BEHOOVES US TO TRY TO AVOID THAT KIND OF SITUATION.

THESE ARE VERY COMPLICATED PUBLIC POLICY DECISIONS, BUT TO ME AS JUST A CITIZEN, I THINK IT IS REASONABLE TO LOOK CAREFULLY AT THE ROLES AND TRY TO SELECTIVELY MOVE OUT PEOPLE WHO DON'T -- WHO ARE DEEMED NOT TO POSE A THREAT TO SOCIETY.

>> DR.

STORCH, COULD I ASK YOU A QUESTION IN TERMS OF CLARIFICATION OF MEDICAL TERMS.

CORONAVIRUS AND COVID-19 ARE TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ISSUES, ARE THEY NOT?

AND ARE WE DOING A DISSERVICE TO, ONE, CORONAVIRUS BY NOT MAKING THAT DISTINCTION?

COVID-19 IS THE THREAT, CORRECT?

COULD YOU DEFINE AND DISTINGUISH BETWEEN CORONAVIRUS AND WHETHER OR NOT CORONAVIRUS IS THE VEHICLE THROUGH WHICH WE ARE EXPOSED AND PERHAPS COME DOWN WITH COVID-19?

>> YEAH.

SO THIS COMES FROM TERMINOLOGY DEVELOPED BY THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION.

COVID-19 IS THE NAME OF THE DISEASE.

THE VIRUS THAT CAUSES THAT DISEASE IS CALLED SARS-COV-2.

A LOT OF PEOPLE FIND THAT VERY AWKWARD, SO SOME PEOPLE JUST REFER TO IT AS THE COVID-19 VIRUS.

BUT THEY ARE INTIMATELY RELATED, TALKING ABOUT THE VIRUS AND THE DISEASE THAT IT CAUSES.

>> THANKS.

WE HAVE A TWEET FROM ONE OF OUR VIEWERS.

LET'S GET TO THAT.

AND WE'LL REMIND EVERYBODY THAT PBS HAS A SPECIAL HOUR-LONG LOOK AT CORONAVIRUS AND COVID-19 HEADED UP BY JUDY WOODRUFF OF THE NEWS HOUR AND THAT STARTS AT 8:00.

ANNIE MARIE BERRY WRITES, I'M FEELING CONFUSED AS TO WHY CORONAVIRUS IS AN A BIGGER DEAL THAN SEASONAL FLU.

I THINK THAT QUESTION IS FOR DR.

STORCH.

DOCTOR?

>> THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION OF THAT QUESTION AND CERTAINLY SEASONAL INFLUENZA IS A SERIOUS PUBLIC HEALTH PROBLEM.

WE KNOW THAT IT RESULTS IN 30 TO 40 OR MORE THOUSAND EXCESS DEATHS EVERY WINNER, BUT WE'VE BECOME -- EVERY WINTER, BUT WE'VE BECOME ACCUSTOMED TO THAT.

WE HAVE MEASURES WE CAN UNDERTAKE, INCLUDING A VACCINE AND TREATMENT, AND ALSO IT'S BECOMING APPARENT THAT COVID-19 IS QUITE A BIT MORE THAN SEVERE THAN SEASONAL INFLUENZA.

IT'S MORE COMPARABLE TO THE SPANISH FLU CATASTROPHIC PANDEMIC OF 1918.

THE FATALITY RATE ACROSS THE BOARD FOR COVID-19 IS PROBABLY SOMEWHERE IN THE BALLPARK OF ONE TO TWO PERCENT, AND THAT IS 10 TO 20 TIMES HIGHER THAN THE FATALITY RATE FOR SEASONAL INFLUENZA.

>> OUR NEXT CALL COMES FROM RICK IN GROVER.

HI, RICK.

>> Caller: HI, CHARLIE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS WONDERFUL SERVICE AND DR.

STORCH, THANK YOU.

SO MY FIRST QUESTION WAS JUST ANSWERED.

THE SECOND ONE, CHARLIE, IS SO IS THIS THE NEW NEW?

ARE WE GOING TO SEE COVID AGAIN NEXT YEAR?

WHAT ABOUT NEXT YEAR?

>> DOCTOR?

>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY, THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY IS DEBATING THAT QUESTION, BUT THE ANSWER IS WE DO NOT KNOW.

VIRUSES, ESPECIALLY NEW VIRUSES, ARE HARD TO PREDICT.

CLOSE RELATIVE OF THE COVID-19 VIRUS WAS THE SARS VIRUS THAT CAUSED THE DISEASE SARS IN 2003.

BY 2004, THAT VIRUS HAD COMPLETELY DISAPPEARED.

SEVERAL YEARS AGO, WE HAD A VERY BIG PROBLEM WITH ZIKA VIRUS.

ONE YEAR LATER, IT UNACCOUNTABLY BECAME VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND.

IT'S JUST VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO PREDICT THE BEHAVIOR OF THESE VIRUSES.

IT'S POSSIBLE IT MAY GO AWAY ON ITS OWN, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S ALSO POSSIBLE THAT IT WILL GO AWAY TEMPORARILY AND THEN COME BACK NEXT SEASON.

WE JUST DON'T KNOW THAT, BUT HOPEFULLY BY THE NEXT SEASON, WE WILL HAVE HAD TIME TO DEVELOP SOME OF THE TOOLS THAT WE'RE VERY GOOD AT DEVELOPING, INCLUDING TREATMENTS AND VACCINE.

>> RAY?

>> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR DR.

STORCH BECAUSE JUST PIGGYBACKING ON WHAT YOU JUST SAID, ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE DOING IN TERMS OF SOCIAL DISTANCING, SO FOR EXAMPLE NOT SHAKING HANDS, ARE THEY SOMETHING GIVEN THAT THIS COULD BE HAPPENING AGAIN, THAT ARE GOING TO BE PERMANENT?

AND BECAUSE I SAY THAT, THERE ARE FOR EXAMPLE, INDUSTRIES THAT -- SUCH AS THE CRUISE LINES THAT MAY HAVE A VERY DIFFICULT FUTURE IN THIS WAY AND THEY MAY BE CANDLE MAKERS UNHAPPY WITH ELECTRICITY.

NO, I MEAN IN TERMS OF INDUSTRIES.

SO IS THIS SOMETHING WE NEED TO BE THINKING, SOME OF THESE ARE MORE LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS THAN HOPEFULLY THIS VERY SHORT-TERM -- WHAT WE HOPE IS A SHORT-TERM SITUATION.

>> YES, IT'S AN INTERESTING THOUGHT.

WE MAY LEARN NEW PRACTICES FROM OUR EXPERIENCE COMBATING COVID-19 THAT WILL CARRY OVER TO THE POST COVID-19 ERA.

>> ALL RIGHT, DOCTOR.

WE HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, RAY, BECAUSE SOME OF US ARE ACTUALLY OVER 60.

I KNOW I AM.

>> WHY ARE YOU LOOKING AT ME?

>> IF THE SHOE FITS.

SOME GROCERY STORES HAVE, WITH THE BEST OF INTENTIONS, SET ASIDE AN EARLY HOUR IN THE MORNING SO THE SENIORS LIKE YOU AND I CAN SHOP, BUT WAS IT TURNS OUT, THE STORES GET OVERRUN WITH SENIORS AND THEY'RE REALLY CROWDED LIKE 10:00 ON A SATURDAY MORNING.

I'M WONDERING, ARE YOU TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THESE SPECIAL HOURS?

>> I RADIO -- I REFUSE AS A MATTER OF PRINCIPLE, AND TO BE HONEST, I REMEMBER THE SPANISH FLU.

NO T AS A MATTER OF PRINCIPLE, I FEEL TOO YOUNG.

>> YOU WON'T DO IT.

>> BUT I CERTAINLY AM NOT GOING TO QUESTION THE GROCERY STORES' GOOD INTENTIONS.

PEOPLE HAVE TO MAKE THEIR OWN DECISION ABOUT THIS.

I THINK THE BEST OF INTENTIONS.

>> WHAT DO YOU SAY, BILL?

>> WELL, MY WIFE IS DOING THE SHOPPING THESE DAYS AND SO SHE'S YOUNGER THAN I AM.

YOU KNOW, IF IT WERE UP TO ME, I'D SAY 70 AND OVER SHOULD GET A BREAK, NOT 60 AND OVER.

THAT WOULD NOT INCLUDE MY WIFE.

>> WELL, IT MIGHT GET TO THAT.

WHAT DO YOU THINK, DR.

STORCH?

SHOULD THERE BE AN HOUR FOR THOSE OVER 60 AND WHAT HAPPENS IF IT BECOMES TOO POPULAR?

>> RIGHT.

IF IT BECOMES TOO POPULAR, THEN IT WILL NO LONGER BE EFFECTIVE.

IF THE STORES ARE CROWDED WITH THE AGE GROUP OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THERE, THERE'S GOING TO BE A RISK OF TRANSMISSION.

I WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO USE ONLINE SHOPPING ALTERNATIVES AND DELIVERY AND I WANT TO ENCOURAGE THE STORES TO VERY ACTIVELY GET ON BOARD WITH THAT BECAUSE THAT IS A WAY OF ACHIEVING OR MAINTAINING SOCIAL DISTANCING, AND PREVENTING PEOPLE FROM HAVING TO GO INTO CROWDED SHOPPING SITUATIONS.

>> ALVIN, YOU KEEP AN EYE ON RETAIL.

WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF PEOPLE HOARDING?

GOO WE-- >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, ON MARCH 6th, I BECAME 59 1/2 OFFICIALLY, AND GOING WITH THAT 60 AND OVER, LISTEN, IF YOU'RE ME AND WE'VE BEEN BLESSED WITH GOOD HEALTH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY REASON TO BE DOWN THERE BETWEEN 6:00 AND 7:00 IN THE MORNING.

IF YOU'RE INFIRMED OR OLDER, THAT'S ONE THING, BUT IF IT'S CROWDED, IT'S BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE ME ARE TRYING TO GET TOILET PAPER BEFORE IT'S OFF THE SHELF.

IT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH PROTECTING THE HEALTH OF ANYBODY.

HOARDING, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY.

I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY THAT'S GOT 75 ROLLS OF TOILET PAPER.

I GOT MORE EGGS TODAY.

I GOT 18, I COULD HAVE GOT 36.

I JUST FIGURED, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHY, ALVIN?

SO TO EACH HIS OWN.

THE HOARDING THING, PUT IT THIS WAY.

IF YOU'RE, IN YOUR OWN MIND, YOU'RE BEING GREEDY, THAT'S ONE THING, BUT IF YOU'RE AFRAID, HOW CAN I TELL ANYBODY WHO'S AFRAID WHAT THEY SHOULD DO.

>> LET'S GET TO THE CALLS AGAIN.

GARY IS IN BENTON PARK.

I KNOW YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT, GARY.

THANKS FOR CALLING.

>> Caller: THANKS.

MY QUESTION IS IN THE EARLY INFECTIOUS STAGES, THE CASES CAN BE TRACED TO THE INDIVIDUALS BRINGING IT TO THE COMMUNITY, THE INCIDENT OF THE FATHER-DAUGHTER DANCE COMES TO MIND.

BUT AT SOME POINT IT'S NO LONGER TRACEABLE IN COMMUNITY SPREAD.

I WONDER IF THE DOCTOR HAS ANY COMMENT ON WHAT TESTING IS TELLING US ABOUT WHETHER WE'VE CROSSED THAT THRESHOLD TO COMMUNITY SPREAD AND I'D LIKE TO HEAR HIS COMMENTS.

>> WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT TESTING AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.

THE TEST IS DONE ON A NASAL SWAB AND IT DETECTS THE VIRUS, AND IT IS -- BECOMES POSITIVE ONE OR TWO DAYS BEFORE THE PERSON HAS DEVELOPED SYMPTOMS.

NOW, IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S -- THAT THE INCUBATION PERIOD OF THIS INFECTION IS ANYWHERE BETWEEN TWO AND 14 DAYS.

SO THERE IS A PERIOD DURING THE INCUBATION PERIOD WHEN THE TEST WILL BE NEGATIVE.

NEGATIVE RESULTS FROM THE TEST DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE TERN IS NOT INFECTED AND DOESN'T TELL YOU THE PERSON IS NOT GOING TO GO ON AND DEVELOP THE INFECTION OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS.

SO THAT'S AN IMPORTANT LIMITATION ABOUT TESTING.

ON THE OTHER HAND, TESTING CAN BE VERY VALUABLE IN CONFIRMING THE DIAGNOSIS IN PEOPLE WHO HAVE SYMPTOMS AND I THINK AS WE GO A LITTLE FARTHER INTO THIS OUTBREAK, TEST WILL GO BECOME VERY IMPORTANT TO DETERMINE WHEN PEOPLE WHO ARE RECOVERING ARE NO LONGER CONTAGIOUS AND CAN GO BACK TO WORK AND GO BACK TO SOCIAL INTERACTION.

>> DR.

STORCH, THE FIRST FATALITY IN THE STATE OF MISSOURI WAS A BOONE COUNTY RESIDENT WHO HAD APPARENTLY SOME INTERNATIONAL TRAVEL IN HIS RECENT PAST.

HE DIED THE DAY AFTER HE WAS DIAGNOSED, THE DAY AFTER HIS CASE WAS CONFIRMED.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW THAT HAPPENS?

WAS THIS SOMEBODY WHO WAS JUST TERRIBLY, TERRIBLY SICK, AND JUST DIDN'T REALIZE IT?

>> YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE ANY DETAILS ABOUT THAT CASE.

I WILL SAY THAT IS A VERY UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCE FOR THIS INFECTION.

THE MORE COMMON COURSE OF THIS DISEASE IS FOR A PERSON TO BEGIN HAVING SYMPTOMS OF FEVER, COUGHING, POSSIBLY SHORTNESS OF BREATH WITH A GRADUATE -- A GRADUAL WORSENING OF THOSE SYMPTOMS OVER ABOUT A WEEK AND A SIGNIFICANT WORSENING IN SEVERE CASES IN THE SECOND WEEK OR IF THE PERSON IS GOING TO RECOVER, RECOVERY IN THE SECOND WEEK.

SO IT TYPICALLY IS A MORE GRADUAL ONSET THAN OCCURRED IN THAT CASE.

>> MIKE, YOU'RE IN GODFREY, ILLINOIS.

WELCOME, MIKE.

OKAY, MAYBE I -- DID I GO TO THE WRONG CALLER?

MAYBE IT'S WILLIAM.

ARE YOU WITH US IN CHESTERFIELD?

OR MIKE IN GODFREY?

>> Caller: YEAH, THIS IS MIKE IN GODFREY.

>> THANKS, MIKE.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

>> Caller: THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

THE QUESTION AND A COMMENT.

IF THIS DISEASE IS DIAGNOSED OR A PERSON IS TESTED AND THEY'RE POSITIVE, WHY AREN'T WE TRYING TO PUT A STOP TO IT BECAUSE OF THE INTERVIEWS WITH THIS PERSON AND WHERE THEY'VE BEEN DURING THE INCUBATION PERIOD, SAY TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE DAYS BEFORE THAT, WHY CAN'T WE AND STILL ABIDING BY THE HIPAA LAWS, WHY CAN'T WE AT LEAST SAY THAT BETWEEN 5:00 AND 6:00 ON SUCH-AND-SUCH A DAY, THIS PERSON WAS IN SUCH AND SUCH STORE OR WHATEVER, AND THEN THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTENING TO THIS CAN THEN DECIDE, WELL, WE WERE IN THAT STORE AT THAT TIME, SO THEN THEY CAN SELF-QUARANTINE.

BECAUSE OTHERWISE, IT'S JUST LIKE THE DOMINO EFFECT.

BY THE TIME YOU GET IT -- >> WELL, THEY'RE DOING THAT IN ISRAEL TO SOME EXTENT, DOCTOR, WITH GPS TECHNOLOGY, AREN'T THEY?

>> I THINK THE CALLER MAKES A GOOD POINT.

DIE WANT TO MENTION THAT THE -- I DO WANT TO MENTION THAT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENTS ARE REALLY DOING, MAKING EVERY EFFORT TO DO CONTACT TRACING WHEN THERE'S A POSITIVE CASE.

THEY ARE TRYING TO INTERVIEW THAT CASE AND FIND OUT WHERE THAT PERSON WAS AND WHO MIGHT HAVE BEEN EXPOSED IN THE PERIOD WHEN THE PERSON WAS CONTAGIOUS.

HOW THEY NOTIFY THOSE CONTACTS HAS TO DEPEND ON WHAT THE NATURE OF THE EXPOSURE IS.

IF IT WERE INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE, THEN THEY CAN NOTIFY THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT THEY MAY HAVE BEEN EXPOSED AND SHOULD GO INTO SELF-QUARANTINE.

IF THE PERSON ATTENDED A LARGE EVENT, THEY MIGHT NEED TO MAKE THE KIND OF PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT THAT THE CALLER IS TALKING ABOUT.

I THINK THIS NEEDS TO BE DECIDED VERY CAREFULLY ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS BY PUBLIC HEALTH PROFESSIONALS.

>> DOCTOR, WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT 30, 40 SECONDS TO GO.

CAN YOU TELL OUR VIEWERS WHAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING RIGHT NOW AND WHO SHOULD GET TESTED?

>> SOCIAL DISTANCING IS THE KEY.

THIS DISEASE COMES FROM OTHER PEOPLE, SO THE MORE -- IT'S VERY UNFORTUNATE ADVICE TO HAVE TO GIVE, BUT THE MORE WE CAN KEEP AWAY FROM OTHER PEOPLE DURING THIS PERIOD OF TRANSMISSION, THE SAFER WE WILL BE.

TESTING AT THIS POINT IS MAINLY RESERVED FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE SYMPTOMS, TO FIND OUT IF THEIR ILLNESS IS REALLY COVID-19 OR MAYBE SOME OTHER VIRAL RESPIRATORY INFECTION.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DR.

STORCH.

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