>> Rooney: I'M EMILY ROONEY.

WELCOME TO "BEAT THE PRESS."

OUR TOPICS: LOTS OF COLUMNISTS ARE CALLING THE ATLANTA SHOOTINGS A HATE CRIME, BUT REPORTERS ARE HOLDING OFF UNTIL IT'S OFFICIAL; THE "BOSTON GLOBE" LAUNCHES AN ANTI-RACISM NEWS SITE CALLED THE EMANCIPATOR; AND THE "WASHINGTON POST" ISSUES A RARE CORRECTION OVER MISQUOTING FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP.

PLUS, OUR PANEL'S RANTS AND RAVES OF THE WEEK.

JOINING ME ARE: TOM FIEDLER, DEAN EMERITUS OF B.U.

COLLEGE OF COMMUNICATIONS; NORTHEASTERN UNIVERSITY'S DAN KENNEDY; MEDIA STRATEGIST SUSIE BANIKARIM; AND PAUL NIWA OF EMERSON COLLEGE.

FIRST UP, WHEN A YOUNG WHITE MALE ATTACKED SEVERAL MASSAGE PARLORS IN ATLANTA THIS WEEK, ONE FACT LEAPED OUT: SIX OF THE EIGHT VICTIMS WERE ASIAN, LEADING MANY TO CALL IT A HATE CRIME.

THAT ALSO PUT THE MEDIA IN A QUANDARY, TRYING TO RECTIFY THAT NARRATIVE WITH INFORMATION BEING RELEASED BY INVESTIGATORS WHILE ALSO DANCING AROUND THE DELICATE MATTER OF WHETHER THESE WERE MORE THAN JUST MASSAGE PARLORS.

FROM THE START, THERE WAS NO SHORTAGE OF OPINION OVER WHAT HAPPENED IN ATLANTA.

MOST COLUMNISTS ECHOED ADVOCACY GROUPS IN CALLING IT A HATE CRIME AND PART OF A LARGER WAVE OF VIOLENCE DIRECTED AGAINST ASIAN AMERICANS.

>> HATE CRIMES AGAINST ASIAN AMERICANS HAVE BEEN ON THE RISE SINCE COVID HIT.

>> Rooney: BUT WHAT MAY SEEM OBVIOUS IS NOT SO SIMPLE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT.

THEY SAY IT'S NOT CLEAR THE KILLER WAS MOTIVATED BY RACIAL HOSTILITY AND THAT HE BLAMES A SEX ADDICTION FOR TRIGGERING HIM.

>> IT'S A TEMPTATION FOR HIM THAT HE WANTED TO ELIMINATE.

>> Rooney: THAT RESURRECTED SPECULATION OVER WHAT KIND OF BUSINESS TOOK PLACE IN THESE MASSAGE PARLORS.

COVERAGE NOTED THEY WERE LOCATED IN THE CITY'S "RED LIGHT DISTRICT."

>> IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO IGNORE THAT THESE KILLINGS HAPPENED AT ASIAN BUSINESSES LIKE THIS ONE DIRECTLY BEHIND ME.

IN ATLANTA.

>> Rooney: BUT ANY SUGGESTION THAT SEX WAS TAKING PLACE WAS LABELED "VICTIM SHAMING," WITH THE ASIAN AMERICAN JOURNALIST ASSOCIATION CAUTIONING THE MEDIA TO "AVOID TERMINOLOGY AND CONNOTATIONS OF PROSTITUTION OR SEXUALIZATION."

>> A NUMBER OF CITIES HELD VIGILS OVERNIGHT FOR THE VICTIMS.

>> Rooney: MEANWHILE, WHAT IS CLEAR IS THAT CONFESSED GUNMAN ROBERT AARON LONG WAS TARGETING WOMEN.

IT'S ALSO CLEAR, AS THE "NEW YORK TIMES" POINTS OUT, THAT LONG HAS A WHOLE HOST OF ISSUES "DEFINED BY RELIGION, GUILT AND LUST."

A FORMER ROOMMATE AT A REHAB CENTER DESCRIBED HIM AS A RELIGIOUS FANATIC WITH SUICIDAL TENDENCIES OBSESSED WITH BEING JUDGED BY GOD.

WHETHER HE HARBORED RESENTMENT TOWARD ASIAN WOMEN IN PARTICULAR IS STILL NOT CLEAR.

SUSIE, I'VE NEVER SEEN PASSIONS DRIVEN BY REASONS LIKE THIS.

THE MEDIA CAN'T JUST GO WITH SEEMS LIKELY THE OBVIOUS NARRATIVE WITHOUT HAVING ALL THE FACTS.

IN TERMS OF EVEN THE ASIAN AMERICAN JOURNALISM ASSOCIATION PUSHING BACK, IF HE HAD LONG ARE ATTENDED THOSE PLACES AND GOT SEX ACTS THERE, THAT IS REPORTABLE INFORMATION, IT IS NOT STIGMATIZING OR VICTIMIZING ANYBODY DPM THAT IS THE FACT.

>> BECAUSE THIS HAPPENED IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS WAVE OF ASIAN AMERICAN VIOLENCE, THAT INFORMED THE SITUATION AND HEIGHTENED TENSIONS AND AS YOU SAY, IF INFLAMED THE WAY PEOPLE FELT ABOUT IT.

WE ARE STARTING TO SORT OUT THROUGH A LOT OF INFORMATION.

AND I THINK A LOT OF THE BUSH BACK WAS -- PUSH BACK WAS TO CONTEXTUALIZE THAT INFORMATION.

YES, THE POLICE SAID HE CLAIMED HE WASN'T RACIALLY MOTIVATED, BUT WE KNOW THAT SOME SHOOTERS CLAIM THEY ARE NOT RACE IT'S, THEY ARE NOT PART OF THE KKK, AND WE KNOW THAT IT IS RARE FOR A POLICE SPOKESMAN JUST TO SPEAK AS APATHETICALLY AS HE DID ABOUT THIS VICTIM, THAT HAPPENS TO HOOP, WHEN THE SHOOTER IS WHITE.

THAT HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY THE CASE.

I THINK WHAT PEOPLE WERE ASKING FOR HERE WAS FOR JOURNALISTS NOT TO TAKE WHAT THE POLICE SAID AND USE IT AS STENOGRAPHY, IT WAS DEFINITELY SEXUALLY MOTIVATED, HE WAS HAVING A BAD DAY.

IT ALSO JUST SPEAKS TO THE LARGER ISSUE OF DIVERSITY, I THINK IF YOU HAVE MORE PEOPLE OF COLOR THEY'RE GOING TO NATURALLY SORT OF HEAR THINGS DIFFERENTLY AND THAT'S IMPORTANT.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS WEEK REALLY HIGHLIGHTED.

>> I THINK WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO THE SHOOTER HIMSELF AND THE WORDS HE TOLD POLICE.

HE'S MADE IT VERY CLEAR IN MY EARS THAT THIS IS A RACIALLY BASED SHOOTING.

THIS IS A PLIMPING AND THAT HE -- A LYNCHING AND HE HAS TOLD THE POLICE THAT HE WAS UPSET, THAT THERE WERE ASIAN AMERICAN WOMEN WHO HE PERCEIVED TO HAVE CONTROL OVER HIM AND THAT HE TOOK IT INTO HIS OWN HANDS.

HE BECAME A VIGILANTE, TO CORRECT THE SOCIAL ORDER OF THINGS.

AND IF THAT'S NOT A LYNCHING, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS.

THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT HE USED A GUN INSTEAD OF A ROPE.

THIS IS -- WHEN IT'S SO CLEAR TO ME THAT THIS IS RACIALLY MOTIVATED, I DON'T THINK JOURNALISTS HAVE TO O NECESSARILY BE STENOGRAPHERS, WHEN WE TRY TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT LIKE THE BOSTON GLOBE'S EDITORIAL ON WEDNESDAY, TO SAY THIS WAS AN ISSUE OF GUN CONTROL OR OTHERS HAVE SAID THIS IS AN ISSUE OF ADDICTION OF AN INDIVIDUAL.

I THINK WE'RE MISSING THE POINT.

HELPING WHITE LAW ENFORCEMENT, BE ABLE TO HIDE BEHIND THEIR ANTI-ASIAN RACIST VIEWS.

AND I THINK THE JOURNALISTS AT THIS MOMENT LIKE WHAT GRAM DID ON THURSDAY, SHE CALLED OUT HER OWN EDITORIAL BOARD FOR FAILING TO MAKE THIS POINT.

I THINK JOURNALISTS ON THE STREET SHOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO SAY WHAT THEY SEE AS THEIR TRUTH.

>> WHAT HAPPENED IN ATLANTA CERTAINLY WAS RACIST IN ITS EFFECT.

WHAT'S HAPPENED HAS TERRORIZED THE ASIAN COMMUNITY.

WHAT SUSIE SAID, WAS FROM RISING VOYAGES AGAINST THEM.

WHAT POLICE SAY THE SHOOTER SAYS, WHAT MATTERS IS THAT THIS HAS CONTRIBUTED TO THE SENSE OF FEAR AND TERROR AMONG ASIANS AND ASIAN-AMERICANS.

I CAN TELL YOU SOME OF MY STUDENTS ARE FEELING THIS RIGHT NOW.

NOW, SOME OF THE INITIAL SPECULATION WAS JUST WRONG.

THERE WAS SOME INITIAL SPECULATION THAT THIS WAS A TRUMP SUPPORTER WHO WAS ACTING ON TRUMP'S RACIST RHETORIC ABOUT THE CHINA VIRUS, THAT SORT OF THING.

THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE THE CASE BUT THAT CERTAINLY DOESN'T MEAN THAT RACE ISN'T WRAPPED UP IN THIS ALONG WITH MISOGYNY AND OTHER ISSUES.

>> YEAH, I THINK THAT DAN HAS IT RIGHT AND SUSIE I AGREE WITH YOU THAT CONTEXT CERTAINLY MATTERS AND IS CONTROLLING HERE.

BUT I ALSO DON'T FAULT JOURNALISTS FOR NOT LABELING THIS AS A HATE CRIME.

THERE ISSUE HERE, HATE -- THE ISSUE HERE, HATE CRIMES HAVE A VERY STRICT LEGAL DEFINITION WHICH IS WHAT THE POLICE HAVE TO ABIDE BY, AND THEN THERE IS THE SENSE THAT I THINK MOST OF US AS OBSERVERS WOULD SAY, QUALIFIES AS A HATE CRIME.

I DOUBT THERE'S ANY ISSUE WITH REPORTING WHAT HAPPENED IN THE CONTEXT OF THE VICTIMS BEING -- THE MAJORITY OF THE VICTIMS, FOUR OF THE VICTIMS ARE ASIAN.

AND THE VERY FACT THAT THE SHOOTER IN THIS CASE PATRONIZED THOSE PLACES AND MAY HAVE HAD MISOGYNY AND ANTI-RACIST FEELINGS.

I WOULDN'T FAULT AND DON'T FAULT AT LEAST THE REPORTERS FOR NOT LEAPING OUT AND CALLING THIS A HATE CRIME RIGHT AWAY.

IT'S HORRIBLE ENOUGH, IN JUST THE PARTICULARS OF THE ACTION, WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THERE.

SO I'D LEAVE THAT TO THE OPINION WRITERS.

>> Rooney: EXACTLY.

ARE WELL, ALONG WITH COVID, AMERICA'S ONGOING RECKONING WITH RACIAL JUSTICE HAS DOMINATED THE NEWS OVER THE PAST YEAR.

NOW, THE "BOSTON GLOBE" AND BOSTON UNIVERSITY ARE LAUNCHING A BRAND-NEW PUBLICATION AIMED AT TRANSFORMING HOW THE TOPIC GETS COVERED.

ADAM REILLY HAS MORE.

>> Reporter: IN THE 19th CENTURY, BOSTON WAS A HOTBED FOR ABOLITIONISTS AND THE ANTI-SLAVERY PRESS.

BINA VENKATRAMAN, "THE GLOBE'S" EDITORIAL-PAGE EDITOR, SAYS RIGHT NOW, THAT LEGACY OF SUSTAINED ENGAGEMENT IS WORTH RESURRECTING.

>> SO OFTEN WHEN WE'RE HAVING A DEBATE AROUND A RACIAL JUSTICE ISSUE IT'S BECAUSE SOME NEWS EVENT HAPPENED.

THEN, WE LOSE THE MOMENTUM AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE ALMOST RESTART THE CONVERSATIONS WHEN THE NEXT INCIDENT HAPPENS.

>> Reporter: WHICH IS WHY VENKATRAM AND IBRAM KENDI, THE HEAD OF B.U.

'S CENTER FOR ANTI-RACIST RESEARCH, ARE FOUNDING THE EMANCIPATOR, A WEB SITE AIMED AT ENDING RACISM RATHER THAN JUST REPORTING ON IT.

>> HOW TO WE GET TO A MORE RACIALLY JUST SOCIETY?

WHAT'S THE SOLUTION SET?

WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE?

>> Reporter: THE EMANCIPATOR STILL HAS TO HIRE TWO CO-EDITORS, BUT ITS BOARD IS PACKED WITH BIG NAMES, AND "GLOBE" COLUMNIST KIMBERLY ATKINS HAS ALREADY BEEN TAPPED TO WRITE A BIWEEKLY NEWSLETTER, "UNBOUND."

JUDGING FROM THE MEDIA'S RESPONSE, THERE'S PLENTY OF APPETITE FOR THE IDEA.

>> BOY, THE TIMING COULD NOT BE MORE APPROPRIATE.

>> Reporter: THE "GLOBE" HAS BEEN DOWN THIS ROAD BEFORE, LAUNCHING "CRUX" TO COVER CATHOLICISM AND "STAT" TO COVER HEALTH.

"CRUX" PETERED OUT, BUT "STAT" HAS THRIVED, ESPECIALLY DURING COVID, WHEN REPORTING THAT MIGHT HAVE SEEMED NICHE SUDDENLY DIDN'T.

>> HELEN JOINS US LIVE NOW FROM ING LIKE COVID, AMERICA'S RACIAL RECKONING IS UBIQUITOUS RIGHT NOW, AND THERE'S NO RESOLUTION IN SIGHT.

FOR THE RECORD, VENKATRAM SAYS EVEN AFTER THE NEW WEBSITE'S LAUNCH, THE "GLOBE'S" IN-DEPTH COVERAGE OF RACE AND RACIAL JUSTICE WILL CONTINUE.

MEANWHILE, THE EMANCIPATOR WILL HAVE TO DELIVER ON SOME LOFTY EXPECTATIONS.

>> Rooney: WE RECEIVED A NOTE BACK FROM SENIOR EDITOR YAWU MILLER, WHICH REETS IN PART: >> THERE'S NEVER ENOUGH COVERAGE OF ISSUES OF RACE, JUSTICE AND INEQUALITY.

AS FOR THE NAME, "THE EMANCIPATOR," I THINK WHEN BLACKS WERE IN BONDAGE IN THE 19th CENTURY, THAT NAME WAS FITTING, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S USEFUL TODAY TO SPEAK OF BLACKS AS BEING IN NEED OF EMANCIPATION.

PAUL, I HAVE NOTICED OVER THE PAST YEAR AND REMARKED ON IT SEVERAL TIMES THAT THE BOSTON GLOBE HAS DONE A COMPLETE TRANSFORMATION.

THEY INCLUDE BLACK PEOPLE IN EVERY STORY, WHETHER IT'S APPLE CAN PICKING OR WHATEVER, THEY SAID THEY WOULD DO THAT AFTER THE DEATH OF GEORGE FLOYD, THEY HAVE DONE IT STUCK TO IT AND HAVEN'T WAVERED OFF OF IT, I'M WONDERING IF THIS IS NECESSARY WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> THEY ARE MAKE UGH UP FOR A LOT OF LOST TIME, WHICH IS NICE.

I WAS REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE EMANCIPATOR.

THE BLUE RIBBON PANEL, FANTASTIC PEOPLE ON THAT PANL.

AND SO I'M REALLY, YOU KNOW, ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT SO THE GLOBE RESTARTING THE EMANCIPATOR.

BUT PEOPLE OF COLOR NEED FORUMS LIKE THIS, TO BE ABLE TO GET TOGETHER AND FORMULATE THEIR THOUGHTS AND DEBATE IDEAS, COME TOGETHER AND RALLY BEHIND EACH OTHER.

BUT I DON'T THINK I THINK THEY NEED TWO INSTITUTIONS, BU AND THE BOSTON GLOBE TO SUPERVISE THIS INSTITUTION.

IT MAKES ME FEEL ALSO THAT THE EMANCIPATOR LOOKS VERY HIGH BROW AND THAT THIS IS A LITTLE BIT LIKE TEACHING TO THE CHOIR.

INSTEAD OF REEXG OUT AND FINDING THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T GO TO CHURCH.

I FEEL LIKE THIS MAY BE A VERY GOOD DIVERSITY PROJECT BUT NOT NECESSARILY FULLY INCLUSIVE AND I WANT TO SEE THAT.

>> Rooney: YES.

>> I THINK THIS IS SORT OF A PROMISING PROJECT.

IT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING, BECAUSE THIS IS REALLY OUT OF THE POING PAGE OPINION PAGE RIGHT?

THIS IS NOT THE THING AYOU HOPEFULLY WILL BE SEEING IN THE GLOBE, IT IS AN OPINION BASED IDEAS BASED STORY TELLING.

IN THAT RESPECT I THINK LOOK THERE IS A LOT GOING ON IN THIS COUNTRY THIS RACIAL AWAKENING HAS REALLY CHANGED THE WAY A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE THINKING AND HAVING THE ROOM TO DISCUSS THOSE THINGS IS GOOD AND I THINK THE BUSINESS MODEL, AS OPPOSED TO CRUX WHICH TRIED TO WORK OFF ADVERTISING AND WASN'T EVER ABLE TO DID THAT, GIVES IT A CHANCE OF REAL RESPECT.

>> I THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA, LONG OVERDUE, I'M REALLY LOOKING FOR GOOD THINGS FROM THE EMANCIPATOR.

I THINK PAUL LOOKS FOR GOOD THINGS TO LOOK FOR, THE BEST WAY TO GO AHEAD WITH A PROJECT LIKE THIS IS TO LAUNCH.

ONCE YOU'VE LAUNCHED YOU SEE WHAT YOU'VE GOT AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS ALONG THE WAY.

I THINK THE IDEA ABOUT COMPETITION WITH THE BAY STATE BAN INNER,BANNER, FILLS AN INCREDIBLY PERSONAL NICHE.

FINALLY, WE KEEP BURYING CRUX.

CRUX IS ALIVE AND WELL, IT NEVER WENT AWAY.

>> Rooney: I DON'T KNOW HOW WELL IT IS.

>> TAKE A LOOK, IT LOOCT PRETTY GOOD.

JUST NOT UNDER THE OWNERSHIP OF THE GLOBE.

>> I PUSH BACK A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT PALL WAS PAUL WAS SUGGESTING IN.

I DON'T THINK THE AUDIENCE FOR THIS PUBLICATION IS GOING TO BE PARTICULARLY THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY OR THE BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITY.

AND THAT WOULD BE ACTUALLY THE SAME SITUATION OF THOSE, THE ABOLITIONIST NEWSPAPERS, THE LIBERATOR AND THE NORTH STAR, THAT WAS WHAT, IN THE 1830S, 40S AND 50S SO FORTH, MOST OF THE READERS OF THOSE PUBLICATIONS WERE WHITE PEOPLE AND PEOPLE OF PRIVILEGE AND WELL EDUCATION.

I THINK YOU -- I'VE THOUGHT STATEMENT FROM THE BAY STATE BANNER EDITOR WAS QUITE GRACIOUS AND ACCURATE IN SAYING THERE'S NEVER ANY OF AND WHAT I WOULD -- NEVER ENOUGH AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE, I CLEARLY HAVE A CONFLICT COMING FROM BOSTON UNIVERSITY BUT WHAT I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE IS A PUBLICATION THAT IS INFORMING LARGELY NONBLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE ABOUT ISSUES AT A MIGHT INFORM THEIR BEHAVIOR AND HOPEFULLY THAT WILL ELEVATE ALL IN ALL AS WE STRIVE TOWARDS EQUALITY.

I'M DELIGHTED TO SEE THIS AND I THINK THEY MIGHT FIND A NICHE.

>> Rooney: I HOPE YOU'RE RIGHT.

WELL, BACK IN JANUARY, THE "WASHINGTON POST" REPORTED THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP, WHO LOST THE ELECTION TWO MONTHS EARLIER, URGED A GEORGIA ELECTION OFFICIAL TO "FIND THE FRAUD," GOING ON TO TELL THE PERSON THEY'D BECOME "A NATIONAL HERO" IF THEY DID.

NOW, THE "WASHINGTON POST" SAYS THEY GOT THE QUOTES WRONG BUT THEY STAND BY THE SUBSTANCE OF THE STORY.

EARLIER THIS MONTH, THE "WALL STREET JOURNAL" GOT HOLD OF A CONVERSATION BETWEEN FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP AND FRANCES WATSON, AN ELECTIONS INVESTIGATOR FOR GEORGIA'S SECRETARY OF STATE.

>> AND I WON EVERYTHING BUT GEORGIA, AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW, YOU KNOW SOMETHING BAD HAPPENED.

SOMETHING BAD HAPPENED.

>> Rooney: THOSE ARE THE PRESIDENT'S WORDS, BUT AT NO POINT IN THE RECORDING DOES HE TELL WATSON TO "FIND THE FRAUD."

>> YOU JUST HAVE THE MOST IMPORTANT JOB IN THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE IF WE WIN GEORGIA... >> Rooney: AND THAT'S THE CLOSEST TRUMP CAME TO SUGGESTING WATSON WOULD BE A NATIONAL HERO, BUT HE NEVER USED THE EXACT PHRASE.

SO, THE "WASHINGTON POST" ISSUED A CORRECTION SAYING IN PART "THE RECORDING REVEALED THAT THE 'POST' MISQUOTED TRUMP'S COMMENTS ON THE CALL."

>> THIS IS PROBABLY THE WORST MEDIA SCREW UP I'VE EVER SEEN, DIRECTLY ATTRIBUTING FALSE QUOTES TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

>> Rooney: THAT MIGHT BE AN OVERSTATEMENT, BUT IT'S PRETTY BAD.

FOR ONE, OTHER MEDIA OUTLETS INCLUDING USA TODAY, CNN, ABC AND NBC REPORTED THE MISQUOTES, ALL SAYING THEY HAD INDEPENDENT CONFIRMATION.

>> THE "WASHINGTON POST" TOOK A SINGLE SOURCE AND PUT QUOTATIONS AROUND THE WORDS.

>> Rooney: AND THERE'S THE RUB.

THE "WASHINGTON POST'S" SOURCE, WHO CAME FORWARD AND IDENTIFIED HIMSELF AS JORDAN FUCHS, WAS THE SAME SOURCE EVERYONE ELSE USED.

FUCHS WAS BRIEFED ON THE CALL, BUT NOT ON IT.

SO WHAT FUCHS TOLD THE WAMGHTS RIGHT, THEY GOT THE MESSAGE RIGHT.

-- WAMENTS RIGHT THEY "WASHINGTON POST" RIGHT, THEY GOT THE MESSAGE RIGHT.

>> Rooney: I ASSUMED THEY HAD HEARD THE CONVERSATION BUT THEY DIDN'T.

>> YEAH, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT EITHER.

BECAUSE AS JORD FUCHS SAID, SHE TALKED TO THE POST AND GAVE THEM A SUMMARY OF WHAT SHE HAD HEARD FROM WATSON.

AND WHEN YOU GET A SUMMARY THAT'S NOTHING YOU CAN PUT QUOTATION MARKS AROUND AND THEY KNEW THIS.

WHAT IS UNFORTUNATE IS THAT IT CAST DOUBT ON THE POST'S PREVIOUS STORY, IN WHICH TRUMP ISSUED SIMILAR ADMONITIONS TO BRAD RAFFENSPERGER, THE SECRETARY OF STATE IN GEORGIA.

THIS IS USED TO DISCREDIT ALL OF THE POST REPORTING, YOU'VE GOT TO GET THE QUOTES RIGHT AND DON'T USE QUOTATION MARKS IF YOU ARE NOT SURE.

>> I AGREE, THIS WAS SORT OF A BOTCHED STORY IN SOME WAYS RIGHT?

IT WASN'T THAT THEIR SOURCE WAS A PRIMARY IN THE CONVERSATION, SHE HAD HEARD SECONDHAND THE CONVERSATION.

SO THAT WAS A MISTAKE, THEY HAVE TO ISSUE THE CORRECTION, WHAT CHOICE DO THEY HAVE AT THAT POINT?

JOURNALISTS KNOW YOU HAVE TO ISSUE A CORRECTION BUT HOW YOU FRAME THE CORRECTION IS ALSO PART OF THE STORY.

AND HERE I FEEL LIKE THE WAY THEY WROTE IT MADE IT -- GAVE TRUMP COVER RIGHT?

MADE IT SEEM LIKE THE GIST OF WHAT HE HAD SAID WAS ACTUALLY TOTALLY WRONG.

HE ESSENTIALLY SAID THOSE THINGS JUST NOT IN THOSE WORDS.

I THINK THEY COULD HAVE WRITTEN THE CORRECTION IN THE WAY THAT DIDN'T GIVE THEM QUITE SO MUCH COVER.

>> I HAVE TO SAY SUSIE YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ABOUT THAT.

BUT I THINK THEY WERE TRYING TO BEAT THEIR BREASTS A LITTLE BIT HARD.

SAYING WE KNOW WE MADE A MISTAKE LET'S PUT ON THE HAIR SHIRT AND SO FORTH.

THIS WAS LIKE THE PARLOR GAME THAT WE ALL PERHAPS USED TO PLAY WHERE EVERYBODY STANDS IN A LONG LINE AND YOU START OUT WHISPERING IN SOMEONE'S EAR A CERTAIN FACT AND BY THE TIME THE LAST PERSON GETS IT AND REPEATS IT BACK IT'S NOWHERE CLOSE TO WHAT WAS SAID FIRST.

IF THERE'S A REAL OUTRAGE OF WHAT COMES FROM THIS, IT IS THE WAY THE REPUBLICANS HAVE SPUN IT.

BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOW COME OUT AND WITHOUT ANY, ANY ATTEMPT TO STICK TO THE FACTS, THEY HAVE CLAIMED THAT THE "WASHINGTON POST" FIRST STORY SOMEHOW IMPACTED THE SENATE VOTE IN GEORGIA WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN UTTERLY IMPOSSIBLE, SINCE THE POST STORY HAPPENED FOUR DAYS AFTER THE ELECTION, STILL SEE THAT LIE BEING REPEATED, I'M GOING TO HOLD MY OUTRAGE BACK, SAY YES, WE ALL AGREE THAT WHAT THE "WASHINGTON POST" DID WAS TERRIBLE, AND THEY DESERVE TO GET KNOCKED AROUND FOR THAT.

BUT IT IS, I THINK IT PALES IN COMPARISON TO THE WAY THE REPUBLICANS ARE SPINNING IT.

>> I'VE BEEN ON RIGHT WING RADIO AND ALSO ON OAN AND OTHER SITES, AND I THINK THAT THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA IS ACTUALLY BEATING UP THE "WASHINGTON POST" MORE THAN THE RIGHT WING MEDIA HAS WHICH IS KIND OF SURPRISING.

I THINK THE RIGHT WING MEDIA HAS SEEN THAT EVEN WITH THE CORRECTION THE PRESIDENT STILL LOOKS LIKE A BULLY AND HE DOESN'T LOOK -- DOESN'T COME OFF THAT WELL.

SO THEY'VE REALLY BACKED OFF ON THAT.

AND THEY HAVE BEEN PUTTING THEIR ATTENTION TOWARDS THINGS LIKE CATCHING JOHN KERRY WITHOUT A FACEMASK AT A PRIVATE MOMENT AND EVERY TIME ADEMOCRAT REFUSES TO ANSWER A QUESTION WHAT THEY CALL THE BIDEN CONTAMINATE HIKE.

THEY'VE REALLY MOVED ON QUICKLY- AND IT IS LNL LIKE THE HAIR SHIRT LIKE TOM SAID.

IT'S LIKE THE CONFESSION, THE SELF FLAGELLATION, IT WORKED GREAT FOR HENRY II IN THE 12th CENTURY BUT THE 21st CENTURY THIS LOOKS REALLY SILLY.

I ANY IT REALLY SULLIES THE REPUTATIONS OF NEWSROOMS.

WE SHOULD JUST CONFESS AND GET IT OVER WITH AND MOVE ON.

>> Rooney: ALL RIGHT, TIME NOW FOR OUR RANTS AND RAVES STARTING WITH YOU SUSIE.

>> PAUL JUST MENTIONED, THIS WEEK OAM FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW IS THIS VERY RIGHT WING OUTLET THAT WAS ONE OF TRUMP'S FAVORITES.

THE NEW YORK TIMES IS DOING A STORY ABOUT THEM, THAT IS A VALID THING TO BE DOING, THEY DESERVE THIS, GIVEN THE FACT THEY HAVE BECOME SO SPECIFIC, L NEW YORK TIMES PHONE NUMBER AND E-MAIL ADDRESS AND NAME ON TV SEGMENT OF THEIRS AND THEN REAIR IT LARGER AND SUGGEST THAT PEOPLE OUGHT TO MAKE AN EFFORT TO REACH OUT TO HER AND INDICATE WHAT THEY FEEL ABOUT HER FOR TRYING TO DO THE STORY.

ACTUALLY VIOLENT, THIS IS A DISGUSTING THING TO DO, WHETHER YOU'RE MAD SOMEBODY IS DOING A STORY ABOUT YOU.

AND I THINK THIS SPEAK TO A LARGER ISSUES, OAM, THEY CALL THEMSELVES NEWS, BUT HOW TO DESCRIBE THESE PLACES, THAT'S SOMETHING I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR BUT I THINK WE NEED TO SPEND SOME TIME THINKING ABOUT.

>> Rooney: ALL RIGHT, TOM.

>> I HAVE A RAVE, IN MEMORIAM TO A PUBLISHER AND EDITOR BOB ENGLE.

BOB ENG L TRULY REVOLUTIONIZED THE NEWS BUSINESS, AS THE EDITOR OF THE SAN JOSE MERCURY NEWS, HE WAS THE FIRST TO PUT ACTUAL NEWS ONTO THE WEB, THE WEB WAS I GUESS IN ITS INFANCY THOSE DAYS, AND IN A PARTNERSHIP WITH AMERICA ONLINE, ALSO IN ITS INFANCY, VERY FORWARD THINKING.

THAT WAS 1993, AT A TIME WHEN I HAVE TO ADMIT, A LOT OF PEN AND INK PAPER REPORTERS THOUGHT THAT MAYBE THE INTERNET IS A PASSING FAD AND WE SHOULD JUST KEEP ON DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING.

BOB ENGLE WAS I GUESS THE RARE EDITOR WHO SAW WHERE THE WORLD WAS GOING, TOOK A RISK AND HIS LEGACY I HOPE WILL REFLECT THAT.

>> Rooney: INTERESTING.

OKAY PAUL.

>> I WANT TO SEND OUT A RAVE TO TEEM NEW ZEALAND WHO JUST WON AMERICA'S CUP.

THIS ENDS THE LAST THREE MONTHS OF MY LIFE WHERE I'VE WOKEN UP IN THE MORNING AND FIRST THING CHECK THE REGULAR REGATA.

THEY DID A LOT OF THINGS TO MAKE THEIR RACE INTERNET FRIENDLY YOUTUBE READY.

SHORTENED IT DOWN TO LESS THAN HALF AN HOUR.

THEY HAVE GOT BOATS, SAIL BOATS THAT ARE SAILING 50 MILES AN HOUR, THE JUDGES ARE HANGING ON TIGHTS IN THEIR MOTOR BOATS TRYING TO KEEP UP.

IT'S BEEN AN EXCITING MATCH AND EXCELLENT AND REALLY INNOVATIVE, THE DATA DUMP THAT AMERICA'S CUP GAVE OUR PUBLIC.

THEY GAVE US JUST A MOUNTAIN OF INFORMATION, THEY HAVE TURNED FANS INTO PODCASTERS WHO ARE DISCUSSING IN THIS LIVELY DISCUSSION ABOUT A SAILOR'S HEARTBEAT AND HOW MUCH EFFORT THEY EXERTED AT A CERTAIN TIME.

THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THINGS LIKE THE SAIL CONFIGURATION, AND WIND DIRECTION AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

IT'S BEEN FANTASTIC TO SEE!

>> Rooney: OKAY.

>> SO JOHN HENRY KEEP A LOOKOUTS FOR THAT.

>> Rooney: ALL RIGHT, DAN.

>> RAVE FOR THE UNION OF HARVARD CURRENTS.

WOULD LET ANY SUBSCRIBER OR THE ATTORNEY GENERAL TO SUE THE OWNER OF THE HARVARD CURRENT IF THEY ARE CUTTING COSTS IN THE NEWSROOM IN ORDER TO FATALITIEN THE BOTTOMING LINES OF THEIR SHAREHOLDERS.

IT SOUNDS UNCONSTITUTIONAL BUT IT TURNS OUT THAT THE CURRENT IS OPERATING UNDER THE TERMS OF AN 1887 CHARTER GRANTED TO THEM BY THE LEGISLATURE THAT REQUIRES THEM TO OPERATE IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST.

IT GOT A LEGISLATIVE HEARING THIS WEEK.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS IS GOING.

BUT I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT.

>> Rooney: ALL RIGHT THANKS DAN.

TIMELY TONIGHT I HAVE A RANT FOR CONDE NAST WHO FATALS TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ADD LESS EPT AND AN ADULT.

WE TALKED ABOUT ALEXI McCAMMAND, WHO MADE SOME RACIST JUVENILE TWEETS, HAD APOLOGIZED MORE THAN ONCE BUT THEY COUNTY HOLD ON.

THERE WAS APOLOGY FROM THE FORMER TEEN EDITOR OF TEEN VOGUE BUT THIS IS WHAT TEEN VOGUE IS ABOUT.

THEY MAKE DISTINCTION IN THE PAGES OF THAT MAGAZINE BETWEEN THE DIFFERENCE OF TEENAGERS, ADOLESCENTS AND ADULTS.

I KNOW THERE ARE SOME WHO DISAGREE WITH THAT, THIS WOMAN'S CAREER IS RUINED NOW AND IS GOING TO BE PAYING FOR IT THE REST OF HER LIFE, OVERKILL I THINK.

THAT IS IT FOR OUR SHOW.

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