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WELCOME .. "DONNYBROOK".

GREAT .. LOTS TO TALK ABOUT THIS WEEK.

LET'S MEET OUR PANELISTS, STARTING WITH WENDY WIESE FROM THE BIG 550 KTRS.

BILL MCCLELLAN FROM THE ST. LOUIS POST DISPATCH.

JOE HOLLEMAN SITTING IN THE SEAT ONCE OCCUPIED BY RAY HARTMANN.

AND JOE AND SARAH FENSKE WILL BE ROTATING IN THAT POSITION.

JOE IS WITH STL TODAY.COM.

AND YOUR ST. LOUIS AMERICAN ALVIN REID.

A LITTLE SHOUT OUT TO HEATHER HEYMART.

PR.. ADORING THE MAN TEL MENTAL MEANT MANNED MA NTEL BEHIND ME.

BILL MCCLELLAN, YOU HAD ANOTHER CHANGE IN THE ST. LOUIS SCENE.

THIS TIME FRED PESTELLO, LONG-TIME PRESIDENT OF ST. LOUIS UNIVERSITY HAS ANNOUNCED HE'S GOING TO STEP DOWN IN JUNE OF 2025.

FOLLOW, DIDN'T HE?

TELL US WHAT YOU THINK.

>> HE HAD HUGE SHOES TO FOLLOW.

LARRY, CALL ME LARRY WAS A LARGER THAN LIFE FIGURE.

FOR A NEWSPAPER PEOPLE IT WAS WONDERFUL.

I TH.. A FINE JOB.

BUT THE BASKETBALL TEAM JUST COULDN'T GET ON DURING HIS TENURE.

THEY NEED SO..

IN A TOP 25 TEAM.

>> HE SAID ON THIS PROGRAM, HE WAS THE NEXT UP GUEST.

WE SAY GOOD THINGS HAPPEN TO THE NEXT GUESTS ON THE SHOW.

IN THIS CASE HE SAID HE WOULD HAVE A WINNING BASKETBALL TEAM IN 25 YEARS.

THAT HASN'T YET.

>> WE SAW IT DURING A VERY DIFFICULT TIME DURING THE PANDEMIC.

I .. AS WE ARE LEARNING NOW, SEVERAL YEARS AFTER THE FACT, THE YOUNG PEOPLE HAVE BEEN VERY HARD HIT BY THE PANDEMIC, AND THAT'S AN ONGOING SITUATION.

I WISH HIM NOTHING B.. MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN AS COLORFUL OR COPY GENERATING AS FATHER, BUT I THINK HE DID A GREAT JOB.

>> SOMETIMES IT BECOMES CYCLICAL AFTER YOU HAVE THE LARGER THAN LIFE FIGURES, AT TIMES SOMEONE STEPS IN, AND AN ERA OF NORMALCY.

WHEN HE TOOK..

THE TIME WHEN THERE WAS A LOT OF UNREST ON CAMPUSES BECAUSE OF POLICE ISSUES, BLACK COMMUNITY, AND I THOUGHT HE DID A GOOD JOB OF KEEPING THINGS TOGETHER ON CAMPUS THERE WITHOUT SHUTTING EITHER SIDE DOWN.

AS WENDY SAID ON KEEPING THE CAMPUS OPEN AND OPERATING DURING COVID, I THINK HE DESERVES CREDIT FOR QUIETLY NAVIGATING.

>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.

UNIVERSITY AROUND HERE, THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON.

SURE, THEY HAD THEIR ISSUES.

I WISH HE AND OTHER ADMINISTRATORS WOULD BE MORE VOCAL ABOUT THE SLAVE DESCENDANT ISSUE THAT THEY HAVE THAT HELPED CONSTRUCT ST. LOUIS UNIVERSITY.

I DON'I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU COULD SAY, BUT I WISH HE COULD SAY MORE.

AT THE SAME TIME I WISH HE WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE VOCAL THAN THAT.

FOR THE MOST PART, I THINK IT WAS SOLID LEADERSHIP.

I'M NOT GOING TO FAULT HIM FOR THE BASKETBALL TEAM.

>> YOU LOOK AT FONTBONNE, I KNOW IT HURTS WENDY AND WEBSTER UNIVERSITY.

THES.. TROUBLE, AND PESTELLO GUIDED THROUGH THOSE TREACHEROUS WATERS.

>..

UNDER HIS LEADERSHIP THE SCHOOL WENT FROM 13,000 ENROLLMENT TO 15,000 AND THAT WAS HUGE, AND HE INCREASED THE ENDOWMENT BY 88%.

STOCK MARKET PROBABLY HELPED THAT A LITTLE BIT, TOO.

AS A GUY WHO WAS THE FIRST NONPRIEST TO HOLD THAT POSITION, I DIDN'T KNOW HOW HE WAS GOING TO RAISE MONEY WITHOUT A ROMAN COLLAR.

>..

DISCUSSED IT.

I THINK IT'S GOOD THAT HE'S A NONPRIEST.

CHAN..

UNIVERSITIES, A NEW PRESIDENT, NEW CHANCELLOR WHO IS RETIRING WHEN THERE'S NO SCANDAL INVOLVED OR FIND OUT HE WAS MAKING $77 MILLION OR WHATEVER.

>> HE MADE $850,000 A YEAR.

HOW MUCH DOES TRAVIS FORD MAKE?

>> I WOULD IMAGINE.

>> TWO AND A HALF MILLION.

>> THAT'S THE LEAD WE JUST BURIED.

>.. >> AND TROY HOLLEMAN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR GRACING US WITH YOUR PRESENCE.

IT WAS R.. AND ELSEWHERE THAT THERE'S A PLAN BY T JONES TO START WHERE THE LAST TENANTS WERE JAILED PRISONERS WITH THE MEDIUM SECURITY JAIL.

UP IN THIS A.. LIKE A TRUCKING INDUSTRIAL AREA.

AND THE PLAN IS TO HAVE THESE TINY HOUSES DOT THE LANDSCAPE AND PROVIDE REFUSE FAWJ FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE A ROOF OVER THEIR HEADS.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> IT SOUNDS LIKE A ROOF OVER THEIR HEADS.

IF THERE'S ANY SURPRISE IN THIS IS IT'S BEEN KIND OF DITHERED ABOUT SO LONG.

HERE IS A VACANT STRUCTURE WHICH PROVIDES PROTECTION FROM THE ELEMENTS WHILE THE CITY IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN PROTECT PEOPLE FROM THE ELEMENTS.

I TH..

DEVELOPING HOUSES THERE TO SEE IF IT CAN BE USED AS AN EMERGENCY SHELTER NOW.

WHAT ELSE ARE YOU USING IT FOR?

IF WE WANT TO BUY INTO THAT HOMELESSNESS IS A CRISIS, IT'S AT A CRISIS POSITION, THEN WHY WOULDN'T A LARGE EMPTY BUILDING PROVIDE AT LEAST SOME RELIEF TO THAT SITUATION?

I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA, NOT ONLY TO UTILIZE THAT LAND, BUT IF YOU CAN UTILIZE THE BUILDING THAT EXISTS THERE TO GET PEOPLE OFF THE STREETS, OUT OF THE ELEMENTS, PUT A ROOF OVER THEIR HEAD TO WHERE YOU CAN ADMINISTER THINGS TO THEM.

IT'S EASIER TO GET THEM FOOD.

IT'S EASIER TO GET THEM MEDICAL CARE THAN IF THEY ARE SORT OF MOVING FROM PLACE TO PLACE AROUND IN PUP TENTS.

>> GOOD IDEA OVER ALL.

>> I AGREE WITH YOU, EXCE..

THE -- I WOULDN'T SEND PEOPLE THERE TOMORROW, BECAUSE WHERE THE CITIES FALL OFF, NOW WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS.

THEN YOU FIND OUT THAT THE ROOF HAS CAVED IN ON SOMEBODY'S HEAD AND ALL OF THAT KIND OF STUFF AND PLUMBING DOESN'T WORK.

MAKE SURE IT'S SATISFACTORY AND GOOD TO GO AND IF IT TAKES 3 TO 6 MONTHS, LET'S BE PATIENT, BUT LET'S NOT DO IT BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE A LITTLE INVESTMENT IN IT AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME.

>> SHE SAID IN THE PAPER THAT SHE WAS REALLY SURPRISED BECAUSE SHE'S HAPPY TO HEAR THE MAYOR'S COMMITMENT THAT THE JAIL WILL NOT BE USED FOR PRISONERS, BUT SHE STILL THINKS THAT THESE HOMELESS PEOPLE WILL BE OUT OF SIGHT, OUT OF MIND AND THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY THEY WILL HAVE PROBLEMS THERE AS WELL, AND THEY DON'T LIKE -- I DON'T KNOW.

>> I'M OUT OF SIGHT, OUT OF MIND.

..

PROBLEMS.

>>.. CITY'S PLAN FOR HOMELESSNESS IS PRETTY MUCH GLOBAL WARMING.

NOBODY IS GOING TO FREEZE ANYMORE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T GET THAT COLD.

I THINK THIS MAKES SOME SENSE.

I WAS ALWAYS IN FAVOR OF JUST FIXING UP THE WORK HOUSE AND ADDING MORE PRISONERS OUT THERE, BUT AS LONG AS THAT SEEMS TO BE NOT ON ANYBODY'S MENU, I THINK IF THIS WORKS AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME TRANSPORTATION SO THAT PEOPLE AREN'T JUST STUCK OUT THERE, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY UNREALISTIC TO WALK MANY PLACES FROM THERE.

>&g.. TRANSPORTATION WOULD BE BECAUSE DISABILITY RIGHTS GROUP RECENTLY LOOKED AT COLLAR RIDE WHICH IS RUN BY METROLINK OR BISTATE AND FOUND THE AVERAGE WAIT IS THREE DAYS TO GET A RIDE.

WHEN YOU CALL, IT TAKES AN HOUR TO REACH AN OPERATOR.

THEY GAVE BISTATE A COMPLETE F ON THE ABILITY TO DELIVER PEOPLE.

BISTATE ..

OPERATE A LIGHT RAIL FROM NORTH SO SOUTH.

I THINK, SINCE THERE ARE SO MANY FEDERAL PRISONERS IN OUR AREA WHO ARE NOW IN KENTUCKY AND TENNESSEE BECAUSE THERE'S NO ROOM IN THE LOCAL JAILS TO HOUSE THEM ANYMORE AND THEY CAN'T SEE THEIR LAWYERS BECAUSE THEIR LAWYERS HAVE TO TRAVEL A DAY OR TWO TO SEE THEM, THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHOULD TAKE OVER THAT IMMEDIATE SECURITY WORK HOUSE WHICH HAS NO DOCUMENTED PROBLEMS, AND PUT ALL OF THOSE FEDERAL DETAINEES THERE.

>> THAT'.. >> I HEAR THAT, BUT UNTIL THE FEDS SAY THEY ARE GOING TO DO THAT, AND IT SEEMS LIKE TO ME THEY ARE NOT GOING TO DO THAT, LET'S ADD DOCTORS THE PROBLEM WE HAVE.

>.. ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES COME FROM?

THIS AGE IN JANICE ELEMENTARY?

>> I DON'T KNOW.

>> RIGHT NOW THE EMERGENCY IS THEY HAVE GOT TO HAVE HOUSING.

YOU COULDN'T HAVE A SMOKING CESSATION PROGRAM IN GAZA RIGHT NOW.

PEOPLE HAVE BI..

IMMEDIATE ELEMENTS.

>> EVENING THAT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU ARE HINTING AT DOING, THOUGH.

IF..

PERFECT PLACE TO PUT HOMELESS PEOPLE, YOU WILL NEVER FIND THEM AND THEY WILL CONTINUE TO LIVE IN PUP TENTS OVER HIGHWAY OVERPASSES.

IF E.. THAT, AND CLEARLY EVERYBODY IS NOT, THIS SEEMS TO BE A PLACE WHERE THERE'S LAND, FACILITY, WHERE UTILITIES HAVE BEEN BROUGHT IN, SO YOU HAVE A HEAD START.

IF I.. EVERYBODY SEEMS TO WANT TO LABEL IT AS, YOU HAVE TO HANDLE IT AS A CRISIS, GET IN THERE AND USE THAT PROPERTY.

>> ALVIN REID, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT MORE THAN A PROPOSAL, COUPLE YEARS IN THE MAKING TO MOVE A BRANCH OR AUXILIARY MUSEUM FROM THE NEGRO LEAGUE'S MUSEUM IN KANSAS CITY TO THE JEFF VANDERLOU NEIGHBORHOOD IN NORTH ST. LOUIS.

IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD NORTH OF WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW ON OWL STREET, AND GRAND MARTIN LUTHER KING.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

WOULD THAT BE A GREAT PLACE FOR THE MUSEUM?

>> IT MIGHT BE THE SECOND GREAT PLACE, BUT THE FIRST GREAT PLACE WOULD BE DOWNTOWN NEAR BUSCH STADIUM.

TO DEVELOP JEFF VANDERLOU AGAIN WOULD BE A TREMENDOUS, TREMENDOUS THING, AND KANSAS CITY HAS TRANSFORMED THE 18th AND VINE AREA, AND THAT WAS UNDERWAY BEFORE THE NEGRO LEAGUE BASEBALL MUSEUM WAS SITUATED THERE.

.. TO SOUND CRAZY.

I DON'T FEAR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I FEAR NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE WOULD GO TO JUSTIFY IT BEING THERE.

I THINK IT WOULD BE A COOL TOURIST ATTRACTION.

>> I CAN'T ARGUE WITH ONE BIT OF THAT.

>.. KANSAS CITY IS PROBABLY MY FAVORITE MUSEUM I HAVE EVER BEEN TO IN THE UNITED STATES.

>> EVERYBODY SAYS THAT.

>> THEY DO SUCH A WONDERFUL JOB.

IT'S SMALL.

IT'S MANAGEABLE TO TAKE IN WITHOUT FEELING LIKE YOU HAVE BEEN THROUGH AN SAT PREP CLASS.

I AGREE WITH ALVIN IN THAT IF YOU WANT PEOPLE TO GO TO IT, THAT'S GOING TO BE BASEBALL FANS.

SO THE LOGICAL PLACE TO PUT IT IS SOMEWHERE NEAR THE BALLPARK IN DOWNTOWN ST. LOUIS.

IT'S MUCH MORE CONVENIENT WHEN YOU GET THAT TOURIST CROWD INTO TOWN, AND WE ALL KNOW THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE COME TO THE ST. LOUIS FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE TO GO TO CARDINAL GAMES, AND THEY STAY DOWNTOWN AND WALK TO A RESTAURANT AND GO HERE.

I THINK THAT A BRANCH IN THE NEGRO LEAGUE MUSEUM WOULD BE A SLAM DUNK WINNER SOMEWHERE WITHIN A COUPLE OF BLOCKS FROM THE BALLPARK.

>> WHEN THE MAYOR RAN FOR OFFICE SHE WANTED TO MAKE SURE NORTH ST. LOUIS GOT ATTENTION, AND THIS IS WHERE SHE'S BEING CONSISTENT WITH DOING THAT.

IT WAS ANNOUNCED THIS WEEK THAT WALGREEN'S IS MOVING OUT OF JEFF VANDERLOU.

WHILE SH.. SEE IF SOME OF THAT HOCKEY MONEY CAN PERSUADE WALGREEN'S TO STAY IN JEFF VANDERLOU.

THE NEAREST DRUGSTORE IS 200 MILES AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

>> YOU GIVE MONEY TO WALGREEN'S AND STAY FOR A YEAR AND MOVE.

>> I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH GIVING A PRIVATE CORPORATION MONEY TO STAY SOMEWHERE.

I GET YOUR SENTIMENT.

>> I BELIEVE THE NEGRO LEAGUE'S MUSEUM WILL BE SUBSIDIZED.

>> HOW THEY WERE GOING TO DO IT, WHO KNOWS.

I DON'T KNOW IT WAS CUTTING THEM A CHECK OUT OF THE GRAHAM SETTLEMENT OR HARPER MONEY OR WHATEVER.

AND .. THAT'S JUST SITTING EMPTY RIGHT NOW.

>> BILL MCCLELLAN, I WANT TO ASK YOU TO SAY A GOOD WORD OR TWO ABOUT THE LATE BILL BRYAN AT THE ST. LOUIS POST DISPATCH WHO PASSED AWAY AND BEAUTIFULLY REMEMBERED BY TIM O'NEAL.

>> BILL BRYAN WAS A GREAT REPORTER.

WHEN THE..

HIRED BILL, AND HE STAYED RIGHT DOWNTOWN.

HE DIDN'T EVEN COME .. OFFICE.

HE..

VERY PRIVATE GUY, AND HE KNEW ALL THE COPS AND EVERYBODY RESPECTED AND LIKED BILL.

HE WAS A GREAT REPORTER AND A FINE FELLOW.

>> I LOVED.. GREEN ROOM WHILE WE WERE IN PREPRODUCTION ABOUT HOW THE REPORTERS AT THE POST WERE ARE THE ONES -- GO AHEAD.

>> WHEN THE GLOBE WAS GETTING READY TO SHUT DOWN APPARENTLY, THERE WAS A POLL AND THEY SAID HEY, WHO WOULD YOU HIRE FROM THE GLOBE TO COME TO THE POST?

SOME PEOPLE IN PARTS OR FEATURES HAD THESE CERTAIN PEOPLE.

A WHOLE BUNCH OF STREET REPORTERS, WHO WERE TIRED OF GETTING BEAT BY BILL BRYAN SAID HIRE BRYAN AND MAKE HIM THE COP REPORTER.

SO H..

INTO THE OFFICE FOR THE INTERVIEW.

HE MOVED ALL O.. BILLY USED TO CARRY AROUND MANILA FOLDERS THIS HIGH.

HE APPARENTLY MOVED THAT BIG PILE OF FOLDERS FROM ONE DESK TO THE OTHER AND STAYED THERE.

>> ALL THE DAYS OF THE OLD PRESS ROOM.

AND AND AN OLD COT LIKE OUT OF A MOVIE WITH THE SPRINGS COMING OUT.

>> I MIS.. WAS INSTRUMENTAL WHEN I WAS THE YOUNG NIGHT POLICE REPORTER AND HE WOULD GO WHAT'S THE PROBLEM?

WHAT'S THE PROBLEM?

I'M TRYING TO GET AHOLD OF LIEUTENANT BILL MCCLELLAN.

HANG ON.

HEY, BILL.

WITHIN A MINUTE I WOULD GET THIS INFORMATION.

HIS WI.. CONDOLENCES.

>>.. REPORTER.

NEWSPAPER, MAN, AND WHAT A GENTLEMAN, AND KIDS WENT SCHOOL TOGETHER IN KIRKWOOD.

AND MY DAUGHTER GRADUATED WITH ONE OF HIS DAUGHTERS, AND FINE, FINE MAN.

>> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT JAY ASHCROFT THE SECRETARY OF STATE IN THE STATE OF MISSOURI WHO WOULD LIKE TO REDUCE THE INCOME TAX IN THE STATE WHICH IS CURRENTLY AT A PEAK OF 4.95% DOWN TO ZERO.

JOINING 8 OR 9 OTHER STATES IN THE UNION.

I THINK THE TWO OTHER REPUBLICAN GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATES ARE BEHIND THE MOVE.

WHAT'S YOUR OPINION OF NOT PAYING ANY STATE INCOME TAX?

>> WE HAVE TOO MANY SERVICES IN MISSOURI.

THE IDEA THAT WE SHO.. SERVICES, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NEED ANYTHING.

I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE GOOFIEST IDEAS EVER.

THE BILL I KNOW WHO IS RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR, STATE SENATOR, I KNOW, WHO IS ON OUR SHOW NEXT UP, AND I ASKED HIM ABOUT IT.

WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GET ANY MONEY?

AND HE SAID WASTE AND FRAUD.

WASTE AND FRAUD FOR YEARS AND YEARS POLITICIANS HAVE SAID THAT, AND IT'S DIFFICULT FOR EIGEL AND ASHCROFT AND KEEL TO SAY IT SINCE IT'S A REPAIR STATE.

RURAL COUNTIES ARE FULL OF WASTE AND FRAUD.

WE HAVE TO PAY TAXES..

GOING TO GET SOMETHING.

>> RIVER WKRP IN CINCINNATI HE SAID I MAY NOT HAVE GONE TO AN IVEY LEAGUE LAW SCHOOL, BUT CALLING THAT PERSON THAT NAME ON THE AIR IS SLANDEROUS.

I DID NOT STUDY MATH, BUT IF YOU TAKE 4.9% OF THE STATE INCOME TAX AWAY, THAT MEANS 4.9% HOLE IN THE BUDGET, AND WE ARE ALREADY BROKE.

GREAT IDEA.

>> BRIGHT SIDE IS YOU CAN'T BE MORE THAN BROKE.

YOU ARE JUST BROKE.

>> WE ARE NOT BROKE.

DON'T WE HAVE A $5 BILLION SURPLUS?

>> EVERYTHING COMING OUT..

THIS, CUT THAT.

>> I WILL SAY IT'S A BOLD PLAN TO REDUCE THE INCOME TAX TO ZERO.

HOWE.. LIKE IF YOU WERE LIVING IN SEATTLE OR IF YOU WERE LIVING IN AUSTIN OR NAPLES I IN, FLORIDA OR NASHVILLE TENNESSEE YOU WOULDN'T PAY ANY INCOME TAX IN THE STATES.

YET YO.. AND SERVICES ARE BETTER IN EVERY WAY FROM THE AIRPORT TO THE HIGHWAYS TO EVERYTHING ELSE YOU SEE.

OTHER TAX.

>> THAT'S WHAT THEY DON'T TALK ABOUT.

..

I WOULD HAVE TOLLS ON HIGHWAYS.

I WOULD RAISE THE CIGARETTE TAX.

I WOULD RAISE THE GASOLINE TAX.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE I WOULD RAISE.

>>.. SMART THINKING AND PEOPLE PUTTING THEIR POLITICAL AGENDAS AND HATREDS AND EVERYTHING ELSE OFF TO THE SIDE.

WHEN MISSOURI DECIDES THEY WANT TO BE THAT STATE, WE WILL BE LIKE SEATTLE.

>> WE HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO BEFORE WE CAN BE COUNTED IN THOSE CITIES, IN MY OPINION.

>> WHAT I HEARD YOU SAYING, CHARLIE, IS YOU WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE A PLAN OTHER THAN A CAMPAIGN SLOGAN OF DOING AWAY WITH THE INCOME TAX.

I WOULD BE WILLING TO LISTEN TO THAT.

.. SOMETHING, BECAUSE OF FAMILY, IT WORKS SO WELL IN KANSAS.

FIRST OF ALL, WE ARE FOLLOWING KANSAS'S MODEL.

I WILL L.. AND WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS, BUT THERE IS NO OTHER PLAN.

WE ARE GOING TO DO AWAY WITH THIS.

IT SOUND.. CAMPAIGN.

CUT .. EVERYBODY WANTS TO HEAR THAT.

CUT TAXES.

BUT THE PART THEY ARE NOT GOING TO TELL YOU IS WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO RAISE THIS.

WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO RAISE THAT.

>> WASTE.. >> NO MORE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX EITHER.

IT ALL SOUNDS WONDERFUL UNTIL YOU GET A BILL.

>> SOMETHING IS GOING ON.

HERE IS THE THING.

IN THE STATE THE REACTION ALWAYS IS LOOK AT KANSAS.

YOU ARE CHANNELING RAY HARTMANN.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR SALES TAX OF 10%, 11%, 12%, IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVE LOWER TAXES EVERYWHERE.

IF YOU GO TO SOME OF THE STATES I'M TALKING ABOUT, THEY HAVE NO STATE INCOME TAX, BUT THE TAX ON YOUR RESTAURANT BILL IS ABOUT 6%.

>> LIKE I SAID, THEY HAVE A WAY OF LOOKING AND GETTING THINGS DONE.

THEY GET STUFF AND S..

THIS TO HAPPEN, WE HAVE TO TAKE THERE.

>> AND THEY ARE WILLING TO TAKE FEDERAL MONEY.

SENATORS STAND STRONG, AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET THOSE EARMARKS.

>> IT'S FAR MORE EXPENSIVE TO LIVE THERE ANYWAY.

YOU CAN LIVE IN ST. LOUIS WITH ALL OF THESE ONEROUS TAXES ON US, BUT LIVE CHEAPER IN THE OTHER CITIES.

IS IT CHEAPER TO LIVE IN AUSTIN, I THINK NOT.

EVERY ARTICLE I READ ARE COMPLAINING HOW EXPENSIVE IT IS.

>> UNLESS YOU HAVE A WORK HOUSE.

>> LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR FINAL TOPIC OF THE EVENING.

WE SAIDWEWE KNOWED E WIESE, BILL BROUGHT UP FEDERAL STATES TAKE FEDERAL DOLLARS, AND SENATORS THAT WON'T TAKE EARMARKS.

THERE'S ALSO AN EARMARK OR DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION GRANT TO BUILD A PEDESTRIAN BICYCLE, WHEELCHAIR FOOT BRIDGE OVER 6440 CONNECTING THE FOUNTAIN ENTERTAINMENT AREA AND AFOREMENTIONED ST. LOUIS UNIVERSITY.

DOESN'T THIS SOUND LIKE SOMETHING THE NATION WITH THE 34 TRI34 TRILLION-DOLLAR SET SAY IF IT'S SO IMPORTANT, YOU SHOULD PAY FOR IT LOCALLY AND AT THIS TIME WASHINGTON, D.C. CAN'T AFFORD IT.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> I DISAGREE WITH THAT ATTITUDE COMPLETELY.

I TH.. AND TAKE IT AND SPEND IT BEFORE ANYBODY COMES BACK TO US WITH THIS.

A FOOT BRIDGE IS PART OF THE BRICKLINE, AND WILL LURE YOUNG PEOPLE TO THE CITY AND THEREFORE I THINK BUSINESSES WILL FOLLOW BECAUSE THEY WANT TO KEEP THEIR EMPLOYEES HAPPY.

>> I AGREE, AND WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE GETTING RUN OVER.

THIS WOU.. THAT.

TALK.

&g.. >> IT WILL BE PRETTY.

IT WILL HELP THAT AREA.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.

LIKE BILL SAID, THERE IS WASTE AND SPEND IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, I DO BELIEVE, WHERE I THINK WE COULD PAY FOR THIS.

AND THIS IS JUST SUCH A GOOD IDEA.

.. FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

WE FUND THE FE.. >> WE OWE A LOT OF MONEY.

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS IN ARREARS.

YOU HAVE GOT TO START AT SOME POINT AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE BUDGET AND DECIDE WHAT'S NECESSARY.

I'M NOT ..

IF IT'S GREAT FOR BIKERS, THAT'S WONDERFUL WONDERFUL.

A FOOD BRIDGE FOR BIKERS?

>> THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WAS UNDERWRITING THE LOOP TROLLEY.

I SEE THE COMPARISON.

BUT A FOOT BRIDGE AND THE TROLLEY, THAT'S AN APPLES AND ORANGES COMPARISON, IN MY OPINION.

>> OKAY.

AND ..

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN ALL IDEAS ARE BAD.

THIS ONE SEEMS TO BE A GOOD IDEA THAT WOULD HELP A LOT OF PEOPLE, THAT WOULD HELP A PART OF OUR CITY.

THERE WITH OUR HAT IN OUR HAND BEGGING FOR THIS.

>> I'M COMPLETELY BIASED.

I RIDE A BIKE.

>> I TOO, DO.

>> I RIDE A BIKE, TOO, BUT I ALSO WRITE A CHECK FOR TAXES.

I'M THINKING WOW, I DON'T PAY THOSE.

>> I LIV.. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO ALL THE KIDS AND GRANDCHILDREN OUT THERE, SOMEDAY YOU WILL BE PAYING FOR THE BRIDGE.

I HOPE YOU ENJOY THAT.

BECAUSE APPARENTLY WE ARE NOT PAYING FOR IT RIGHT NOW.

>> WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY SOCIAL SECURITY.

>> I DO WANT TO SAY, TH.. APRIL THE 11th IS DONNYBASH, AND IT'S A BIG FUND RAISER FOR THE STATION, AND RAY HARTMANN WHO WAS ON THE SHOW FOR 37 YEARS, IS GOING TO BE IN ATTENDANCE.

YOU CA.. HELLO, RAY.

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