Greater Boston
March 23, 2022
Season 2022 Episode 45 | 28m 30sVideo has Closed Captions
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March 23, 2022
Season 2022 Episode 45 | 28m 30sVideo has Closed Captions
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship>> BRAUDE: TONIGHT ON "GREATER BOSTON," EVEN AS UKRAINIAN FORCES HOLD THE LINE AND-- IN SOME CASES, GAIN GROUND ON RUSSIAN TROOPS OUTSIDE MAJOR CITIES-- THE SITUATION IS GETTING MORE DIRE BY THE DAY.
I'M JOINED BY RHODE ISLAND CONGRESSMAN DAVID CICILLINE, A HOUSE FOREIGN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE MEMBER, WHO RECENTLY VISITED THE UKRAINIAN-POLISH BORDER, WHERE MILLIONS OF REFUGEES HAVE CROSSED.
HE CALLED IT THE WORST HUMANITARIAN CRISIS HE'S EVER SEEN.
PLUS, RACISM ONCE AGAIN FRONT AND CENTER IN EVERETT CITY POLITICS, WITH MANY ARGUING IT'S FAR FROM A ONE-OFF INCIDENT.
AND, COMEDIAN JIMMY TINGLE ON HIS LATEST "HUMOR FOR HUMANITY."
>> BRAUDE: MOST OF US CONCLUDED SOME TIME AGO THAT RUSSIAN TROOPS HAVE BEEN COMMITTING WAR CRIMES IN UKRAINE.
BUT TODAY, SECRETARY OF STATE ANTONY BLINKEN MADE IT OFFICIAL, ANNOUNCING THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION HAS MADE A FORMAL DETERMINATION.
DESPITE RUSSIA'S OVERWHELMING MILITARY MIGHT, UKRAINIAN FORCES HAVE STARTED GOING ON THE OFFENSIVE IN SOME AREAS, APPEARING TO GAIN BACK SOME GROUND IN CITIES THEY'D LOST, AND HOLDING THE LINE OUTSIDE KYIV AS OF THIS TAPING.
BUT THE SITUATION ACROSS THE COUNTRY IS GROTESQUE.
THE UKRAINIAN GOVERNMENT SAYS SOME 100,000 PEOPLE ARE STILL TRAPPED IN THE CITY OF MARIUPOL, WHERE REPORTS INDICATE SOMEWHERE AROUND 80% OF INFRASTRUCTURE HAS BEEN DESTROYED.
HUNDREDS, IF NOT THOUSANDS OF CIVILIANS HAVE BEEN KILLED BY RUSSIAN TROOPS AND THERE'S REAL CONCERN ABOUT HOW FAR VLADAMIR PUTIN MAY GO, INCLUDING THE POSSIBLE USE OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS: >> HOW HIGH IS THAT THREAT?
>> I THINK IT'S A REAL THREAT.
>> BRAUDE: BIDEN TRAVELED TO BRUSSELS TODAY FOR AN EMERGENCY NATO SUMMIT, WHERE HE'S EXPECTED TO ANNOUNCE NEW SANCTIONS TOMORROW AGAINST MEMBERS OF RUSSIA'S PARLIAMENT.
THEN, HE'LL HEAD TO POLAND, WHERE MANY OF THE ESTIMATED 3 MILLION-PLUS UKRAINIAN REFUGEES HAVE CROSSED THE BORDER.
AND AS BIDEN SURVEYS THE WRECKAGE, SO FAR, OF PUTIN'S ATTACK ON A DEMOCRATIC NATION, ONE OF THE KEY ELEMENTS OF OUR OWN DEMOCRACY IS PLAYING OUT BACK ON U.S.
SOIL, WITH DAY THREE OF SUPREME COURT NOMINEE KETANJI BROWN JACKSON'S CONFIRMATION HEARING, WHERE TODAY, SHE ADDRESSED A TRUMP-RELATED RULING IN WHICH SHE DECLARED THAT, "PRESIDENTS ARE NOT KINGS."
>> OUR CONSTITUTIONAL SCHEME, THE DESIGN OF OUR GOVERNMENT, IS ERECTED TO PREVENT TYRANNY.
THAT'S A PART OF OUR CONSTITUTIONAL DESIGN AND IT PREVENTS OUR GOVERNMENT FROM BECOMING TOO POWERFUL AND ENCROACHING ON INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY.
>> BRAUDE: FEELS LIKE A PRETTY RELEVANT POINT, GIVEN THE STATE OF THE WORLD TODAY, AND BASED ON MY FIRST GUEST'S ROLE IN A COUPLE OF IMPEACHMENTS, I'M QUITE SURE HE AGREES.
CONGRESSMAN DAVID CICILLINE OF RHODE ISLAND HELPED INVESTIGATE DONALD TRUMP'S EFFORTS TO WITHHOLD AID FROM UKRAINE DURING HOUSE DEMOCRATS FIRST IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY IN 2019 AND WENT ON TO SERVE AS AN IMPEACHMENT MANAGER IN THE SECOND.
ALSO, AS A MEMBER OF THE HOUSE FOREIGN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE, HE VISITED THE UKRAINE-POLAND BORDER A FEW WEEKS BACK, AND GOT A PREVIEW OF WHAT THE CURRENT PRESIDENT WILL BE SEEING IN THE COMING DAYS.
>> Braude: CONGRESSMAN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
IESHTD IT.I APPRECIATE.
>> ME PLEASURE.
>> Braude: YOU SERVED ON THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE, BUT IN THE HOUSE WE WON'T GET A VOTE.
I'M ONE OF THE OBSERVERS WHO FELT LIKE I'VE GONE TO A Q-ANON CONVENTION WITH THIS ALL CHILD PORNOGRAPHY.
WHAT IS YOUR TAKE-AWAY FROM A DAY AND A HALF?
>> FIRST OF ALL, IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT JUDGE JACKSON IS AN EXTRAORDINARY JUDGE AND WILL BE A SUPERIOR SUPREME COURT JUSTICE.
SHE DISPLAYED TREMENDOUS GRACE THROUGHOUT THE HEARING, A R & R VERY KEEN AND THOUGHTFUL INTELLECT.
SHE DEALT WITH SOME VERY SILLY, UNFAIR QUESTIONS, IN AN EFFORT TO REALLY SMEAR HER, I THINK.
DESPITE OF ALL OF THAT, I THINK THEY MADE FOOLS OF THEMSELVES, NOT OF JUDGE JACKSON.
SHE IS A FORMER PUBLIC DEFENDER, WHICH I AM AS WELL, AND I UNDERSTAND THE SPECIAL ROLE THAT LAWYERS PLAY IN OUR JUSTICE, AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS, THAT OUR CONSTITUTION REQUIRES THAT PEOPLE BE REPRESENTED WHEN THEY'RE ACCUSED OF CRIME.
I THINK SHE WILL BRING A PERSPECTIVE AND A VIEWPOINT TO THE COURT THAT WILL BE VERY VALUABLE.
IT IS TREMENDOUS TO BREAK THIS BARRIER AND HAVE THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMEN TO SIT ON THE COURT.
BUT SHE IS EXTRAORDINARILY QUALIFIED, AND ANY EFFORT TO SUGGEST OTHERWISE IS FOLLY, AND I THINK SHE PROVED THAT IN THE LAST TWO DAYS OF THESE HEARINGS.
>> Braude: ONE THING ABOUT THE HEARINGS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HEARD SENATOR LEE BRING UP COURT PACKING, COURT EXPANSION, AND YOU BROUGHT UP THE REPUBLICANS WHO BROUGHT OF NOMINEES AND REFUSED TO CONSIDER MERRICK GARLAND, BUT IT HAS A BUNCH OF DEMOCRATS TALKING ABOUT COURT EXPANSION AS A POSSIBILITY.
WHERE ARE YOU IN THAT ISSUE?
>> YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK YOU HAVE QUOTED ME CORRECTLY.
THE REPUBLICANS HAVE PACKED THE COURT BY JAMMING THROUGH NOMINEES WITHOUT FULL HEARINGS AND A THOROUGH INVESTIGATION, AND THEY DENIED MERRICK GARLAND A SEAT ON THE COURT.
SO THEY PACKED THE COURT.
SO I THINK THE QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO REBALANCE THE COURT, EXPAND THE COURT, IS AN IMPORTANT ONE.
THE PRESIDENT CREATED A COMMITTEESCOMMITTEE TO STUDY THE COURT.
THEY MADE SOME PRELIMINARY RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT I HAVE COMMITTED TO WAITING UNTIL THE REPORT IS COMPLETED TO MAKE A DETERMINATION.
I THINK WE CANNOT HAVE A SUPREME COURT THAT IS SO OUT OF STEP WITH THE DIRECTION OF THE COUNTRY, AND MAKING DECISIONS IS REALLY TURNING BACK THE CLOCK ON FUNDAMENTAL CIVIL RIGHTS AND VOTING RIGHTS.
AND I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK SERIOUSLY AT REFORMS THAT ENSURE THAT THE COURT REFLECTS THE DIRECTION OF THE COUNTRY AND PROTECTS THE CONSTITUTION AND PROTECTS THE RIGHTS OF CITIZENS IN OUR COUNTRY.
AND I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF REASONS TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE DIRECTION.
>> Braude: BRIEFLY, I'VE HAD A COUPLE OF MEMBERS OF THAT COMMISSION ON THE SHOW, AND THEY SAID THEY'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE ANY FORMAL RECOMMENDATIONS.
WHEN YOU SAY WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO REBALANCE, OTHER THAN EXPANSION, WHAT COULD CONGRESS DO?
AND CONGRESS COULD EXPAND, AND IT HAS IN THE PAST, AND WHAT COULD IT DO?
>> I THINK CONGRESS CAN EXPAND THE COURT.
CONGRESS COULD ESTABLISH TERMS OF SERVICE ON THE COURT, RATHER THAN LIFETIME APPOINTMENTS.
CONGRESS WOULD LIMIT THE JURISDICTION OF THE COURT.
I THINK THERE ARE A NUMBER OF REFORMS.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE GROWING CASELOAD OF THE COURT, THAT ON ITS OWN MIGHT WELL JUSTIFY ADDITIONAL JUSTICES ON THE COURT.
I THINK ALL OF THOSE THINGS SHOULD BE ON THE TABLE AND CAREFULLY CONSIDERED.
>> Braude: LET'S MOVE TO UKRAINE.
CAN YOU DESCRIBE WHAT YOU SAW ON YOUR VISIT EARLIER THIS MONTH TO THE UKRAINE POLISH BORDER?
>> IT WAS REALLY HEARTBREAKING.
WE WERE AT THE LARGEST BORDER CROSSING BETWEEN UKRAINE AND POLAND.
WE'RE AT A NINE-DAY PERIOD WHEN NINE MILLION PEOPLE HAVE CROSSED THE BORDER, MOSTLY WOMEN AND CHILDREN.
THE MEN ARE REMAINING TO FIGHT.
THESE CHILDREN AND WOMEN CAME ACROSS HAVING SAID GOOD-BYE TO THEIR FATHERS, HUSBANDS, OR SONS, NOT KNOWING IF THEY WOULD EVER SEE THEM AGAIN.
THEY WERE TERRIFIED, AND THEY WERE SOMETIMES CARRYING A SINGLE BAG OF ALL OF THEIR BELONGINGS.
IT WAS FREEZING COLD, EVEN A LITTLE LIGHT SNOW.
MANY OF THE PEOPLE FLEEING DIDN'T EVEN HAVE WINTER COATS.
IT WAS REALLY HORRIFIC TO HEAR THE STORIES OF PEOPLE WHO JUST FLED IN THE MIDST OF BOMBING OF THEIR HOME TOWNS.
THIS CAMPAIGN BY VLADIMIR PUTIN IS -- IT INVOLVES BOMBING OF CHILDREN'S HOSPITALS AND RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND PLACES WHERE SENIOR CITIZENS LIVE, I MEAN, UNSPEAKABLE WAR CRIMES, AND PEOPLE ARE LEAVING BECAUSE THEY FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE TO LEAVE IN ORDER TO SURVIVE.
AND THE POLISH PEOPLE HAVE OPENED THEIR COUNTRY AND THEIR ARMS.
THERE WERE PEOPLE AT THE BORDER COOKING FOOD SO THEY HAVE A HOT MEAL WHEN THEY GOT INTO POLAND, AND OTHER FOOD AND WATER, AND CLOTHING AND OTHER SUPPLIES WERE DONATED.
AND LOTS OF HUMANITARIAN ORGANIZATIONS ARE THERE TO HELP FOLKS FIND A PLACE TO SAFELY STAY.
BUT THIS IS JUST UNSPEAKABLE, WHAT IS HAPPENING.
THIS IS A BRUTAL ATTACK ON A SOVEREIGN COUNTRY, NOTHING ANYONE WOULD EXPECT TO SEE IN 2022.
>> Braude: I READ ANOTHER COMMENT YOU MADE ABOUT YOU SEEING POLISH TROOPS HANDING STUFFED ANIMALS TO CHILDREN.
IT PRACTICALLY MADE ME CRY.
IS THE U.S.
DOING ENOUGH?
I KNOW THERE WAS A RECENT APPROPRIATION, WHAT, $13 BILLION OR SO -- ARE WE DOING ENOUGH?
>> YEAH.
THERE IS NO QUESTION THE HUMANITARIAN CRISIS IS GREAT, AND WE'VE DONE A LOT.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE TO DO MORE.
I THINK ALL OF OUR EUROPEAN ALLIES AND NATO ALLIES ARE ALSO DOING THEIR PART.
BUT IT IS GOING TO TAKE A LOT TO DEAL WITH THE HUMANITARIAN CRISIS AND ULTIMATELY THE REBUILDING OF UKRAINE ONCE THE WAR IS OVER.
SO IT IS SOMETHING THEY'LL HAVE TO COMMIT TO FOR THE LONG HAUL.
AND THANKS TO PRESIDENT BIDEN, WHO HAS REALLY LED THE REESTABLISHMENT OF A STRONG COALITION TO SUPPORT UKRAINE AND THEIR FIGHT FOR THEIR OWN DEMOCRACY AND THEIR OWN SOVEREIGNTY.
YOU MIGHT REMEMBER THE FORMER PRESIDENT SAID, YOU KNOW, NATO WAS OBSOLETE AND REALLY DID A LOT TO DAMAGE OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR NATO ALLIES.
PRESIDENT BIDEN IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME REBUILT THOSE ALLIANCES.
NATO IS THE STRONGEST IT HAS EVER BEEN.
WE ARE, AND OTHER NATO COUNTRIES, ARE PROVIDING TREMENDOUS SUPPORT TO UKRAINE IN TRAINING, INTELLIGENCE, ARMING THEM WITH AMMUNITION AND WEAPONS SYSTEMS SO THEY CAN DEFEND THEMSELVES.
THEY'RE DOING A HEROIC JOB OF DOING IT.
I, LIKE MOST PEOPLE, THINK WE SHOULD DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO SUPPORT THE UKRAINIAN PEOPLE IN THIS FIGHT FOR DEMOCRACY, SHORT FROM A DECLARATION OF WAR, BUT I MEAN EVERYTHING ELSE.
>> Braude: CONGRESSMAN, WAS THERE NOT A MINUTE WHEN YOU WERE ON THE BORDER, SEEING THIS FIRSTHAND -- I ONLY SEE IT FROM MY COUCH AT NIGHT, AND IT IS SO UNIMAGINABLY PAINFUL, WHEN YOU WERE ON THE BORDER, SEEING THESE INDIVIDUALS FLEEING WITH NOTHING, LEAVING FAMILY BEHIND, LEAVING PETS BEHIND, LEAVING THEIR LIVES BEHIND, ISN'T THERE IS A LITTLE PIECE OF YOU THAT BREAKS DOWN THAT WORLD WAR III THING?
I KNOW IT IS ON THE INTELLECTUAL SIDE OF YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES AND THE PRESIDENT, BUT ISN'T THERE A PIECE OF YOU THAT SAYS MAYBE WE DO HAVE TO DO MORE?
>> I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY QUESTION.
I THINK EVERY SINGLE TIME ANY PERSON, INCLUDING ME, SEES THOSE IMAGES -- I WAS WITH MY MOTHER ON SUNDAY, AND SHE SAID, CAN'T YOU JUST STOP IT?
AND I WAS, LIKE, MOM I CAN'T REALLY JUST DO THAT.
THESE ARE WAR CRIMES.
WE WANT TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO STOP IT BUT NOT MAKE IT WORSE FOR THE UKRAINIANS AND FOR THE WORLD.
BECAUSE THE FEAR IS ESCALATION COULD ULTIMATELY LEAD TO THE USE OF TACTICAL NUCLEAR WEAPONS OR OTHER ADDITIONAL WEAPONS SYSTEMS BY VLADIMIR PUTIN.
I THINK WHAT THE PRESIDENT IS TRYING TO DO IS DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO BRING THIS WAR TO AN END AND NOT PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PUTIN TO IMPOSE EVEN GREATER DAMAGE AND SUFFERING TO THE UKRAINIAN PEOPLE.
AND I DON'T THINK ANYONE CAN SAY WITH CONFIDENCE, THERE IS NO WAY VLADIMIR PUTIN WOULD USE TACTICAL NUCLEAR WEAPONS.
I JUST DON'T THINK WE CAN SAY THAT FORTUNATE CERTAIN.
-- FOR CERTAIN.
I THINK THE PRESIDENT IS TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING SHORT OF THAT.
I DISAGREE WITH THE PRESIDENT ON THE MIGS, EVEN THOUGH I AGREE PROBABLY IT IS NOT THE MOST NECESSARY THING RIGHT NOW FOR THE UKRAINIANS RIGHT NOW, THEIR FIGHT IS SO CRITICAL, MY VIEW IS WHATEVER THEY ASK FOR WE THO MAKE SURE THEY GET BECAUSE THEY'RE FIGHTING TO PROTECT DEMOCRACY.
>> Braude: CAN I CONNECT TO ANOTHER THING, WHERE YOU'RE A LEADER ON THIS EPIDEMIC OF GUN VIOLENCE IN THE COUNTRY.
RENEE GRAHAM WROTE A PIECE THAT WAS TITLED: "GRAPHIC PHOTOS ARE SHOWING THE WAR IN UKRAINE, AND IT REIGNITES AMERICA'S GUN REFORM EFFORT."
SHOULD WE SHOW THOSE IMAGES?
WOULD IT HELP WITH ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO HAVE BEEN STUCK IN THE MUD, DESPITE 20 DEAD 6- AND 7-YEAR-OLDS AT SANDY HOOK?
WOULD IT CHANGE ANYTHING?
>> I FOUND THE LACK OF PROGRESS ON RESPONSIBLE GUN SAFETY LEGISLATION TO BE THE GREATEST FRUSTRATION OF MY LEGISLATIVE WORK, BOTH AS A STATE LEGISLATOR, AS A MAYOR, AND NOW AS A MEMBER OF CONGRESS.
I THINK IT IS DUE TO THE KURDCOWARDESS OF THE FOLKS WHO WILL NOT STAND UP TO THE GUN LOBBY AND TAKE THEM ON.
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF BILLS IN THE HOUSE THAT OUGHT TO BE PASSED RIGHT AWAY.
THE SENATE STILL HASN'T PASSED A UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECK, WHICH EVEN GUN OWNERS OVERWHELMING SUPPORT.
WE HAVE A GUN VIOLENCE EPIDEMIC IN THIS COUNTRY, AND THERE IS A LOT MORE WE OUGHT TO BE DOING SO YOUNG PEOPLE CAN GO TO SCHOOL SAFELY, PEOPLE CAN GO TO THE THEATER OR A MALL OR A SYNAGOGUE OR CHURCH AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT BEING GUNNED DOWN.
THIS IS A PANDEMIC IN AMERICA.
THIS GUN LAW EPIDEMIC IS PECULIAR TO OUR COUNTRY.
THERE ARE MORE GUNS IN AMERICA THAN THERE ARE PEOPLE.
IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE GOT TO TAKE ON AND DO SOMETHING IN A SERIOUS WAY.
>> Braude: I LESS THAN A MINUTE LEFT, BUT SPEAKING OF REFUGEES, THERE WAS A NOTABLE REFUGEE FROM EASTERN EUROPE WHO DIED TODAY, MADELEINE ALBRIGHT.
CAN YOU GIVE ME A QUICK REFLECTION ON SECRETARY ALBRIGHT?
>> YES.
I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING WITH HER ON A NUMBER OF ISSUES.
AND SHE WAS AN EXTRAORDINARY WOMAN, BROKE THE CEILING OF BEING THE FIRST WOMAN IN SECRETARY OF STATE, AND ALSO WAS SUCH A FORCEFUL VOICE FOR DEMOCRACY AND HUMAN RIGHTS AROUND THE WORLD.
SHE WARNED ABOUT THE GROWING TOTALITARIANS IN THE WORLD.
WE LOST A GREAT INTELLECT, A GREAT LEADER, A MAGNIFICENT PERSON, AND I FEEL VERY PRIVILEGED TO HAVE KNOWN HER.
>> Braude: DAVID CICILLINE, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
I HOPE TO SEE YOU HERE SOON.
THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.
CITY OFFICIALS IN EVERETT ARE STANDING BY A CITY COUNCILOR WHO ADMITTED HE SHARED A RACIST MEME.
IT'S JUST THE LATEST INCIDENT FOR THE CITY, WHERE, TWO MONTHS EARLIER, THE SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT FILED A DISCRIMINATION COMPLAINT ACCUSING THE CITY'S MAYOR OF RACISM, AND AS LIZ NEISLOSS >> AS FOR CITY OFFICIALS IN EVERETT, THEY ARE LARGELY STANDING BY TO PERO, AND THE INCIDENT THAT COMES JUST TWO MONTHS AFTER THE SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT FILED DISCRIMINATION COMPLAINT, ACCUSING THE CITY'S MAYOR OF RACISM, AND AS LIZ NEISLOSS TELLS US, THE INCIDENTS REVEAL A POWER BALANCE THAT MANY SAY DOESN'T REFLECT THE CITY'S MAKEUP.
IS.
>> Reporter: PEOPLE FOR MORE THAN 50 COUNTRIES CALL THE CITY HOME, BUT MANY FEEL SIDELINED.
GUERLINE ALCY RAN UNSUCCESSFULLY FOR A CITY COUNCIL SEAT.
SHE HAS LIVED HERE MORE THAN 30 YEARS.
>> WHEN IT COMES TO POLICIES, WHEN YOU ARE RUNNING, AND I'VE HEARD IT BEFORE, YOU'RE NOT IN EVERETT.
>> YOU HERE A LOT OF, I WAS BORN AND RAISED, AS IF THAT IS YOUR TICKET.
>> Reporter: SATH SAMANTHA LAMBERT WON A SEAT ON THE SCHOOL COMMITTEE, BUT STILL FEELS LIKE AN OUTSIDER.
>> I ALWAYS JOKE I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE I WAS FIVE, AND I'M STILL NOT EVERETT ENOUGH.
IT IS ALMOST INGRAINED INTO OUR POLITICS AND CONVERSATION.
>> Reporter: THE CITY IS STILL DOMINATED BY AN OLD GUARD, SHE SAYS, EVEN AS DEMOGRAPHICS HAS CHANGED.
20 YEARS AGO, ONLY A QUARTER OF THE RESIDENTS WERE NON-WHITE, AND NOW THE CITY IS MADE UP MOSTLY OF PEOPLE OF COLOR.
BUT WHEN A CITY COUNCILOR, ANTHONY DIPIERRO, ADMITTED SHARING A RACIST MEME, IT DIDN'T MAKE THE COUNCIL.
JANICE CLARK WAS ONLY ONE WHO CONFRONTED THE COUNCIL.
>> AS A WOMAN OF COLOR, IV TO DEAL WITH RACIST AND IGNORANT PEOPLE ALL OF THE TIME.
I DON'T WANT TO HEAR THIS STUFF BY A PERSON WHO IS SUPPOSED TO BE REPRESENTING MY INTERESTS IN CITY COUNCIL.
>> Reporter: ANTONIO AMAYA THINKS SHAPIRO SHOULD RESIGN.
>> THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE, MAYBE CHANGES IN THE CITY.
THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE THE DIVERSITY IN THE CITY.
>> Reporter: THE POLITICAL MAP IS TOUGH FOR OUTSIDERS TO NAVIGATE, HE SAYS.
ALTHOUGH THE LEVERS OF POWER STAY IN THE SAME HANDS.
VOTERS STOKE WITH MAYOR CARL DeMARIA FOR A SIXTH TERM.
>> AT THIS TIME, MY COMMUNITY DOESN'T HAVE THAT POLITICAL EXPERIENCE.
>> Reporter: AND HE SAYS THE COMMUNITY IS OFTEN AFRAID TO SPEAK.
BUT IF PEOPLE WANT CHANGE, ALCY SAYS, THEY HAVE TO GET INVOLVED.
>> THE WHITE CONSTITUENTS PAID ATTENTION.
THEY KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON.
THEY READ THE PAPER.
THEY GO TO THE MEETINGS.
SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.
>> Reporter: IN EVERETT SCHOOLS, MORE THAN 80% OF STUDENTS ARE OF COLOR, AND THEY AREN'T LIKELY TO STAY SILENT.
>> WE HAVE REACHED A POINT WHERE WE'RE VERY TIRED OF IT.
OUR GENERATION IS MUCH MORE, UM, OUTSPOKEN AND WE HAVE A LOW TOLERANCE FOR THESE ACTS.
>> Reporter: SO IN EVERETT, TIME WILL LIKELY TURN THE TIDE.
LIZ NEISLOSS, GBH NEWS.
>> Braude: EVERETT'S MAYOR SAYS THE CITY IS INVESTIGATING THE MEME.
SO MY NEXT GUEST KNOWS A THING OR TWO ABOUT COMEDY AND POLITICS, TWO AREAS THAT SADLY INTERSECT.
JIMMY TINGLE HAS BEEN A MAIN STAY ON THE BOSTON AND NATIONAL COMEDY SCENE FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS, AND IN AN ACT OF TEXTBOOK MASSACRE, HE RAN FOR LIEUTENANT-GOVERNOR.
RECENTLY HE HAS DIVED INTO PODCASTING, AND THIS SATURDAY YOU CAN SEE HIM, AND AHEAD OF THAT, YOU CAN SEE HIM RIGHT HERE.
>> IT IS GREAT TO SEE YOU, JIM.
THANKS FOR HAVING ME ON AGAIN.
>> Braude: IT IS MY PLEASURE.
I WAS READING THE ANNOUNCEMENT FROM THE CABOT THEATER, AND IT SAYS "IF LAUGHTER IS THE BEST MEDICINE, THEN JIMMY TINGLE IS A SURGEON GENERAL."
WHICH I THINK NEEDS CLARIFICATION, SURGEON ATTORNEY, OR THE FLORIDA SURGEON GENERAL WHO DOESN'T BELIEVE IN MASKS OR COVID SHOTS FOR KIDS.
>> THE FIRST ONE.
>> Braude: I THOUGHT SO.
HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN WHEN YOU DIDN'T PERFORM BEFORE A LIVE AUDIENCE?
>> PROBABLY A YEAR ENOUGH.
>> Braude: HOW TOUGH WAS THAT?
>> IT WAS TOUGH.
I GOT ON ZOOM.
I WASLEARNING TWITTER.
I PUT OUT HAPPY M.L.K.
DAY, AND END RACISM.
AND MY SON, WHO IS A MILLENNIAL, HE SAID, DAD, YOU DON'T WANT TO USE THE APP SIDE, YOU WANT TO USE THE HASHTAG.
HASHTAG END RACISM AND HASHTAG END SEMITISM.
>> Braude: SO IT WAS LIKE RIDING A BICYCLE.
WHEN YOU GET BACK, IS IT HARD OR IT JUST FLOWS?
>> ONCE YOU GET INTO IT, IT COMES BACK PRETTY EASILY.
IT TOOK A LITTLE WHILE TO GET BACK ON STAGE.
ONE OF THE THINGS I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT IS GETTING BACK ON STAGE.
AND JUST IN THIS DIRE TIME, AND SO MANY ASPECTS OF OUR LIVES, AND THE MEDIA AND THE NEWS, JUST TO MAKE PEOPLE LAUGH AND HAVE SOME FUN.
>> Braude: YOUR FORMAT IS SORT OF THE ONE-PERSON SHOW KIND OF DEAL.
I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER ASKED YOU THIS, WHAT IS THE GENESIS OF THAT?
>> ONE OF THE THINGS I USED TO DO WHEN I FIRST STARTED PERFORMING, I WAS DOING STREET PERFORMING.
AND I ADMIT THERE IS A HARD LINE BETWEEN STREET PERFORMING AND BEING DRUNK IN -- I WOULD GO UP THERE WITH MY HARMONICA.
MY NAME IS JIMMY TINGLE, AND I WANT TO TRY A FEW JOKES ON YOU.
♪♪ >> YOU WANT TO GET IN SHAPE, JUST LIFT WEIGHTS.
I'M SAYING, LIFT WEIGHTS, WHAT FOR?
THOSE THINGS ARE HEAVY.
GET OUT THERE AND JOG, JIM.
IF YOU CAN JOG ONE MILE, YOU CAN JOG THE BOSTON MARATHON.
CALM DOWN, I CAN'T DRIVE 26 MILES WITHOUT PULLING OVER TO HIT A MEN'S ROOM.
♪♪ >> Braude: WAS THAT HARVARD SQUARE OR THE CATSKILLS?
>> HARVARD SQUARE.
>> Braude: THAT TYPE OF HUMORWENT OVER IN HARVARD?
>> NO.
A WOMAN SAID, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS INTERESTING, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD SUBJECT EVERYBODY TO IT.
>> Braude: IT IS INCREDIBLE THAT YOUR MOTHER SAID THAT.
JIMMY, YOUR A TOPICAL COMEDIAN.
YOU SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THE CAPE.
A BIG ISSUE ON THE CAPE, OBVIOUSLY, IS CLIMATE CHANGE, WHICH IS THIS CLOSE TO DISAPPEARING.
DO YOU TALK CLIMATE CHANGE IN YOUR BIT?
>> A LITTLE BIT.
IT IS OBVIOUSLY REAL AND IT IS VERY SERIOUS, AND I THINK THAT DENIAL HAS GOT TO BE BROKEN.
BECAUSE CLIMATE CHANGE IS NOT ONLY SEPARATING WHOLE COUNTRIES AND REGIONS OF COUNTRIES, AND CLIMATE CHANGE IS SEPARATING FAMILIES HERE.
RIGHT HERE IN MASSACHUSETTS, THE BLIZZARD OF 2015, WE HAD NINE FEET OF SNOW, EVERYBODY HAD TO SHOVEL OUT THEIR OWN PARKING SPACE.
I CAME HOME FROM WORK AND SAW A WOMAN PULLING INTO MY PARKING SPACE, AND I SAID, EXCUSE ME, THAT'S MySpace.
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, IT TOOK ME THREE HOURS TO SHOVEL THAT OUT.
EXCUSE ME?
I DON'T CARE IF WE'RE MARRIED.
THAT IS MySpace.
YOUMY SPACE.YOU GET YOUR OWN SPACE.
>> Braude: YOU DON'T SING IN YOUR ACT -- >> I PLAY A LIT LITTLE HARMONICA.
I DO THE ONE-PERSON SHOWS.
I WEPT WENT AND SAW JACKIE MASON ON BROADWAY, HE WAS DOING "THE WORLD ACCORDING TO ME."
I WALKED INTO THIS PLACE, AND IT WAS UNBELIEVABLE, JIM.
2500 PEOPLE LAUGHING HYSTERICALLY.
I WAS IN THE FIRST ROW OF THE BALCONY.
I WAS HOLDING ON TO THE RAILING.
I HAD THIS EPIPHANY.
I KNEW AT THAT MOMENT WHAT I WANTED TO BE: A JEWISH COMIC.
THAT'S WHEN I GOT THE IDEA TO DO ONE-PERSON SHOWS BECAUSE IT IS SO COMPELLING.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE TO BE ON STAGE WHEN 2500 PEOPLE ARE LAUGHING HYSTERICALLY AT EVERYTHING YOU SAY?
ME, NEITHER.
BUT I WANTED TO FIND OUT.
I STARTED TO RENT THEATERS AND PUT MYSELF IN THERE.
THE BACK ALLEY THEATER IN CAMBRIDGE, IT HELD 35, 40 PEOPLE.
I RENTED IT OUT BECAUSE I WAS TRYING MY ONE-PERSON SHOW.
ON OPENING NIGHT, 10 MINUTES BEFORE THE SHOW STARTED, I LOOKED THROUGH THE CURTAIN TO SO HOW MANY OF MY FRIENDS AND RELATIVES AND FANS SHOWED UP -- ONE PERSON IN THE AUDIENCE.
MY MOTHER.
I LOOKED AT HER, AND SHE LOOKED AS ME, AND WE BOTH BURST OUT LAUGHING.
I SAID, MOM, I DON'T BELIEVE YOU ARE THE ONLY PERSON WHO SHOWED UP.
AND SHE SAID, DON'T WORRY, YOUR FATHER IS PARKING THE CAR.
>> Braude: ARE YOU DIFFERENT ON STAGE AFTER THIS NIGHTMARE IN THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF?
ARE YOU DIFFERENT?
IS THE AUDIENCE DIFFERENT?
>> I THINK I'VE DONE A LOT MORE REFLECTING.
I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS IN THE SHOW I'LL BE DOING ON SATURDAY NIGHT, IT IS CALLED "JIMMY TINGLE LIVE: ISSUES FOR HUMANITY."
I'M HOPING TO RAISE MONEY AND GET SOME LAUGHS AND LEAVE PEOPLE WITH SOMETHING POSITIVE.
I WOULD SAY, YEAH, I AM DIFFERENT.
I TRIED VERY HARD TO MAINTAIN MY SANITY.
WHAT I GOT INTO DOING, I DID A LOT OF WALKING.
I GO OUT WALKING BY THE CHARLES RIVER LATE AT NIGHT.
I PUT THE HOODIE ON, YOU KNOW, THE HAT -- THE HOODIE OVER THE HAT, THE MASK.
ALL YOU COULD SEE ARE MY EYES, AND I WALK ALONG THE CHARLES RIVER, AND IT IS SO MEDITATIVE.
THE ONLY TIME IT IS UNAND AUNNERVEING IS WHEN I SEE SOMEONE LIKE ME.
>> Braude: IT IS GREAT TO SEE YOU.
>> GREAT TO SEE YOU, TOO, JIM.
THANKS SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME.
I HOPE ALL YOUR FOLKS ARE SAFE AND SOUND.
>> Braude: YOU CAN CATCH JIMMY'S HUMAN FOR HUMANMITY THIS SATURDAY.
FOR MORE INFORMATION, VISIT JIMMY TINGLE.COM.
THAT'S IT FOR TONIGHT.
PLEASE COME BACK TOMORROW.
WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT HOW EVERY DAY AMERICANS CAN PROTECT THEMSELVES FROM CYBER ATTACKS.
PLUS THE AMERICAN PSYCHOLOGICAL SOCIETY HAS DECLARED PROLONGED BRIEF AS A DIAGNOSIS, BUT NOT EVERYBODY THINKS IT IS A GOOD IDEA.
I'LL LEAVE YOU NOW WITH THE CITIZENS OF UKRAINE PLAYING BACH.
YOU CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT HIS EFFORTS AT INSTAGRAM.COM/KAROVCELLIS T. ♪♪ ♪♪

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