Donnybrook
March 28, 2024
Season 2024 Episode 13 | 27m 49sVideo has Closed Captions
Charlie Brennan debates with Sarah Fenske, Wendy Wiese, Bill McClellan, and Alvin Reid.
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Season 2024 Episode 13 | 27m 49sVideo has Closed Captions
Charlie Brennan debates with Sarah Fenske, Wendy Wiese, Bill McClellan, and Alvin Reid.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship>> "DONNYBROOK" IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE SUPPORT OF THE BETS.. THOMAS PATTERSON FOUNDATION AND THE MEMBERS OF THE NINE PBS.
>> THANKS FOR JOINING US FOR ANOTHER EDITION OF "DONNYBROOK".
WE ARE A COUPLE WEEKS AWAY FROM DONNYBASH.
BEFO.. WILL TELL YOU HOW TO GET SOME OF THE TICKETS.
AND THEY ARE GOING FAST.
LET'S MEET THE PANELISTS, STARTING WITH WENDY WIESE FROM THE BIG 550 KTRS.
BILL MCCLELLAN FROM STL TODAY.COM.
AND SA.. EDITOR OF THE NEW YORK SOMETIMES.
AND ALVI..
IT'S REST IN PEACE FOR RICHARD SERRA, ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS SCULPTORS IN THE WORLD WHOSE PIECES ARE IN EUROPE AND NORTH AMERICA AND BEYOND, I'M SURE.
AND HIS PIECE TWAIN IN DOWNTOWN ST. LOUIS, IN THE 1,000 OR SO BLOCK MARKET NEVER WAS RECEIVED VERY WARMLY IN ST. LOUIS.
IN FACT IT WAS DERIDED QUITE A BIT.
DO YOU..
PIECE OF METAL REALLY WAS NOT VERY IMPRESSIVE, OR ARE PEOPLE IN ST. LOUIS JUST A BUNCH OF RIEWBRUBES WHO DON'T APPRECIATE GOOD ARTWORK?
>> RICHARD SERRA, AS YOU YOURSELF SAID, WAS ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS SCULPTORS OF HIS TIME.
THIS ONE.. THAT WAS INSTALLED AT A TIME HE WAS JUST STARTING TO BECOME FAMOUS.
IT'S SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT AND COOL.
AND PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO SAY BAD THINGS ABOUT THE PIECE OF ART, I WONDER HOW MUCH ABOUT THEIR CREDENTIALS, HOW MUCH HAVE THEY STUDIED ART HISTORY?
HOW COULD YOU TELL, BILL?
>> MY RESUME IN ART HISTORY ISN'T VERY GOOD.
I DIDN'T LIKE THE SERRA SCULPTOR AT ALL AND SHOULD BE REMOVED.
IN OUR STORY TODAY, ASSOCIATED PRESS STORY, I WAS QUOTED BACK IN THE DAY SAYING IF I CAN DO IT, IT'S NOT ART.
I CAN LOOK AT THE SERRA SCULPTURE IN CHICAGO.
I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT, BUT I KNEW I COULDN'T DO IT, SO IT'S ART.
METAL, I COULD DO THE SERRA SCULPTOR, SO IT'S NOT ART.
I THOUGHT IT WAS ONE OF THE MODERN ART THINGS LIKE BROKEN GLASS WHERE PEOPLE GO OH, THAT'S REALLY GOOD.
AND THE REST OF US D.. BE RUBES AND GO WELL, IT IS INTERESTING.
I TH..
CELEBRATORY DAY IF WE YANKED THAT STUFF UP.
>> AND THIS WAS DURING OUR SALAD DAYS.
.. WE HAD A THRIVING DOWNTOWN AREA.
WHEN IT WAS INSTALLED, THE REACTION WAS JUST -- PEOPLE WERE JUST TOTALLY SHOCKED.
IT LOOKED LIKE SOMETHING THAT WOULD ENCIRCLE A CONSTRUCTION SITE.
THOUGHT IT WAS WHEN THEY WOULD DRIVE BY IT.
BRUCE BRADLEY, THE FORMER GREAT KMOX HOST, FAMOUSLY PUT PINK FROM A LIN LINKFLAMINGOS TO LIVEN OF THE SCULPTOR.
IT I.. TO BE SURE.
BUT RUSTY STEEL PLATES, I THINK WE WERE ALL A LITTLE LOST.
>> I THINK IF YOU ARE DRAWN TO IT, AS THE FLAMINGOS, I THINK MAYBE THAT'S EXPLAINING WHY IT IS MAYBE A GOOD PIECE OF ART.
GARY LARSON WHO USED TO DO THE FAR SIDE CARTOON.
HE DID COWS SITTING AROUND THE CAMPFIRE WITH TOOLS.
MADE THE NATIONWIDE DEBATE.
WHAT IS HE TRYING TO DO?
TWO DAYS LATER, YOU HAD TO DO A LITTLE EXPLANATION, LIKE, DO YOU KNOW WHAT?
IT WASN'T REALLY ALL THAT FUNNY.
I SAID I THINK IT'S A PIECE OF ART.
NEEDS TO BE SAID ABOUT IT.
I DON'T HAVE THAT BIG A PROBLEM WITH IT.
IT AIN'T MY FAVORITE PIECE OF SCULPTOR I HAVE EVER SEEN, BUT TO DERIDE IT AND SAY HE'S REALLY GETTING ONE OVER ON ST. LOUIS.
>> I DON'T THINK IT ENHANCES THE BLOCK.
..
THE SERRA SCULPTOR OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.
THEY REMOVED IT.
THE CITY DID.
THEY DIDN'T CARE FOR IT.
SARAH, I WANT TO CONTINUE WITH YOU WITH THE DISCUSSION OF THE EAST-WESTGATE WAY COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT MEETING AND IT HAS REPRESENTATIVES FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE RIVER.
IT ALSO HAS, I GUESS YOU WOULD SAY, REPRESENTATIVES FROM ALL SORTS OF COUNTIES.
THEY LOOK AT REGIONAL ISSUES INCLUDING CRIME, TRANSPORTATION.
YESTERDAY THE TOPIC WAS CRIME.
IT LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE GOING TO BACK A PLAN THAT WOULD BRING THE FOCUSED DETERRENTS CRIME FIGHTING EFFORT TO ST. LOUIS.
AND STEVE SAID FOR EVERY SOCIAL WORKER YOU HIRE, I WANT 10 POLICE OFFICERS HIRED IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS.
THE MAYOR OF ST. LOUIS, TISHAURA JONES, TOOK O UMBRAGE AND DIDN'T WANT ANYONE OF ST. CHARLES SAYING HOW SHE SAID RUN IT.
>> I THINK SHE MADE POINTS THERE.
AND EV THEY ARE AN E.. ARE MOVING OUT OF ST. LOUIS COUNTY AND MOVING INTO ST. CHARLES COUNTY.
THEY HAVE ALL THE FARMLAND THAT YOU CAN TURN INTO MCMAHON SHONS, MANSIONS.
AND BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS GOING GREAT FOR THEM DEMOGRAPHIC WISE, THEY THINK THEY KNOW HOW TO SOLVE ST. LOUIS'S PROBLEMS.
HE CAME UP WITH AMENDMENT AFTER AMENDMENT, THIS PLAN, BRINGING IN THE SMART GUY.
AND HE THINKS I KNOWS BETTER AND TELL YOU HOW MANY POLICE OFFICERS YOU CAN HIRE BEFO.. CAN HIRE A SOCIAL WORKER.
I FOUND IT OFFENSIVE, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK HE KNOWS WHAT ST. LOUIS IS DEALING WITH OR HAS TRIED TO STUDY IT IN A DEEP OR SERIOUS WAY.
I THINK THE MAYOR WAS RIGH..
SNAP BACK AT HIM.
>> I AGREE WITH YOU UP TO THE POINT OF IF A POLICE OFFICER WANTS TO TAKE A JOB IN ST. CHARLES, AND THEY SAID HEY, WE WANT TO HIRE YOU IN ST. CHARLES, I CAN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
GRANTED, I WORK FOR THE SAME NEWSPAPER COMPANY.
BUT YOU LEAVE FOR A BETTER J.. >> SURE.
>> THAT'.. >> THAT'S NOT POACHING.
THAT'S FREE AGENCY.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> IT'S THE TRANSFER PORTAL.. WE CALL IT NOW.
>> AND WHAT EDLEMAN WAS TRYING TO MAKE IS HEY, YOU NEED TO HIRE MORE COPS BEFORE YOU CAN DO THIS.
THEY HAVE GIVEN A BIG RAISE TO THE COPS.
>> THEY DIDN'T BRING.. BIG RAISE.
IN ARNOLD THEY ARE MAKING $100,000.
>.. BASED ON WHAT THEY WERE MAKING.
>> IT KIND OF LOOKED LIKE THAT UNTIL YOU LOOK AT THE STAN KROENKE MONEY THAT WAS SITTING ON THE SHELF THAT COULD BE USED TO SUBSI DIED.
YOU HAVE ARNOLD PAYING POLICE OFFICERS $93,000 A YEAR.
IT'S OUT OF CONTROL.
IT'S ALL SUPPLY AND DEMAND, BUT THE MAYOR HAS GOT TO GET WITH IT.
AND FOR A DEPARTMENT AS BIG AS ST. LOUIS'S DEPARTMENT, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT'S SUSTAINABLE.
YOU CAN'T SAY WE ARE GOING TO PULL EVERYBODY UP TO 93K BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO COMPETE WITH EUREKA, OR ARNOLD, SORRY.
I THINK SHE'S MAKING A POINT HERE, IF PEOPLE WEREN'T RATING PEOPLE COMING OUT OF THE POLICE ACADEMY, WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE THAT PROBLEM.
>> ST. LOUIS COUNTY AND ST. CHARLES HAVE BEEN A WORK IN PROGRESS.
IT'S.. BORN IN THIRD BASE.
THEY HAVE WORKED A LONG TIME TO GET TO THIS POINT.
I REALLY DO BELIEVE THAT.
WHEN I WAS GROWING UP, IT WASN'T REALLY A DESIRABLE LOCATION.
IT IS TODAY A VERY DESIRABLE LOCATION.
>>..
THINK THAT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH ST. CHARLES.
IT HAD TO BE THE LOCATION WHERE ST. CHARLES IS.
I DON'T ..
SUBURBS, THEY DID THE EXACT SAME THING.
MAYBE THE TRAIN STOPPED IN KIRKWOOD.
BUT THEY GREW BECAUS.. POPULATION CREW.
ST. CHARLES IS NOT THE PANACEA THAT WILL TURN INTO ARLINGTON.
THEY BETTER WATCH THEIR STEP.
>> GOD.
FROM THE GENTLEMAN FROM KIRKWOOD KIRKWOOD.
>> [LAUGHTER].
>> WHILE WE ARE TALKING TO YOU, SPEAKING OF THAT KROENKE MONEY, IT LOOKS LIKE AS OUR VIEWERS PROBABLY KNOW, THERE WAS A SETTLEMENT WITH THE N.F.L.
AND THE CITY GOT A BOATLOAD OF MONEY, AND SO DID THE COUNTY.
THE COUNTY GOT ABOUT $170 MILLION.
IT LOOKS..
SPENDING IT ON ROADS, NOTHING VERY SEXY, BUT PAVING THE ROADS THAT NEED TO BE PAVED.
>> I DON'T THINK ALL THE MONEY SHOULD GO TO THE ROADS, BUT IF THEY WANT TO DIVY UP A LITTLE BIT AND THROW IT THAT WAY, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
FOR SOME REASON PEOPLE COMPLAIN MORE ABOUT ROADS THAN THEY DO ABOUT PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING ELSE IN ST. LOUIS COUNTY.
I THINK EVERY CANDIDATE HAS MENTIONED WE ARE GOING TO WORK ON THE ROADS.
I COULDN'T TELL YOU WHERE A BAD ROAD IS IN KIRKWOOD.
THAT'S THE TRUTH.
I GUESS WE HAVE THEM.
>> THAT'S JUST IT.
YOU LIVE IN THE FIELD OF DREAMS, BECAUSE THE REST OF US ARE USED TO ALMOST NEEDING A CHIROPRACTIC ADJUSTMENT WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THE AREAS IN MARYLAND HEIGHTS AND CHESTERFIELD AND ELSEWHERE IN ST. LOUIS COUNTY.
IT ABSOLUTELY NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
>> I WOULD LIK..
FLAMBOYANT.
IT'S L.. OR A BUNCH OF MONEY, AND YOU CAN EITHER POUR YOURSELF A NEW BASEMENT OR YOU CAN GO TO ITALY.
WHY ALWAYS DO THE SENSIBLE THINGS?
>.. SCULPTURE?
>.. [LAUGHTER].
>> BILL, SPEAKING OF THAT STAN KROENKE, THERE IS A MEASURE IN FRONT OF VOTERS, TWO ON TUESDAY IN THE COUNTY AND THE CITY.
MSD NEEDS MORE MONEY FOR SEWER AND STORMWATER REPAIR.
A LOT OF HOMES ARE FLOODED WITH WATER.
THAT'S PROBLEM S. AND TWO MEASURES THAT ARE INTENDED TO ADDRESS THE $8 BILLION INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE.. AREA.
STAN KROENKE MONEY SHOULD BE USED ON SEWER AND WASTEWATER?
>> THAT'S A LONG WAY FROM GOING TO ITALY.
I AM VOTING FOR BOTH OF THEM.
I THINK IT'S ESSENTIAL SERVICES.
WE DON'T WANT TO BE A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY.
SO ABSOLUTELY, THE STORM WATERS, THE FLOODING AND SEWERS, WHETHER OR NOT SOME KROENKE MONEY SHOULD GO TO THAT TO HELP THE TAXPAYERS A LITTLE BIT, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT I'M CERTAINLY VOTING YES ON BOTH OF THEM.
>> I THINK, ONCE AGAIN, SOME OF THE KROENKE MONEY WAS DIRECTED TO THAT.
OKAY.
IT'S HELPING W..
FORESEEABLE PROBLEM.
BUT I SAID THIS BEFORE, AND IT WILL PROBABLY BE A HUGE MISTAKE, BUT THIS TIME I'M GOING TO CALL MSD'S BLUFF.
I'M GOING TO SAY I T.. WILL BE SOME MYSTERIOUS PLAN B OUT THERE THAT KEEPS US FROM ALL HAVING OUR MSD BILL.
>> HE HAS CREEK BEHIND HIS HOUSE.
>> I'M USED TO W.. >> YOU ARE A GOOD SWIMMER.
>> I'M VOTING YES FOR BOTH OF THEM, TOO.
IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS I DON'T WANT MY MONTHLY BILL RAISED.
WE DON'T WANT FLOODING AND WE DON'T WANT THE KIND OF CATASTROPHIC EVENTS WE HAVE SEEN LATELY.
I .. BULLET.
THE STORMWATER COMES.. A YEAR.
IF THAT IS MORE OF A PROTE..
SAFEGUARD FROM BUILDING UP INTO SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS ALONG CREEKS AND SO FORTH, I'M ALL FOR IT.
>> IT'S $25 PLUS THE ASSESSMENT OF YOUR I A SURFACE.
I HAVE A COUPLE THINGS WHEN IT COMES TO THIS.
ONE, SINCE 1972, WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE BEEN POLLUTING THE RIVERS AND STREAMS WITH OUR SEWAGE AND OUR WASTEWATER, AND WE HAVE DONE NOTHING ABOUT IT.
I'M NOT SO SURE I FEEL VERY CONFIDENT IN THE CURRENT MSD.
WE ALSO KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR MEDIA, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, EVERYBODY, WE ARE NOT JUST COVERING THOSE MEETINGS.
WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S GOING ON WITH MSD.
I WAS TOLD BY ONE SELF APPOINTED WATCH DOG, TOM SULLIVAN.
>> YOU ARE CHANNELING TOM SULLIVAN.
>..
HE SAID THE JANUARY MEETING WAS 20 MINUTES LONG, FEBRUARY MEETING 20 MINUTES LONG, MARCH MEETING WAS 40 MINUTES LONG, AND THERE'S NO DISCUSSION OF ANYTHING AND THEY APPROVED EVERYTHING.
OVERSEEING BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN SPENDING.
I JUST DON'T HAVE CONFIDENCE.
>> IF YOU WANT AN ENTIRE NEW COMPANY, NEW ORGANIZATION TO DO IT, THAT'S GOING TO BE TERRIBLY EXPENSIVE.
AND IT..
COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE MEDIA NOT COVERING THIS ENOUGH.
I KNOW THE NEWSPAPER CIRCULATION IS ALREADY WAY DOWN.
IF WE DECIDE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GOING TO START COVERING MSD MEETINGS.
>> INSTEAD OF -- INSTEAD OF.
>> WE WON'T HAVE A MEDIA ANYMORE.
>.. ON THE POOR.
I REALLY DO.
>> I'M HAVING TROUBLE BELIEVING YOU HAVE GOT BAD ROADS AND STORMWATER PROBLEMS IN CHESTERFIELD.
I THOU..
MOVED TO CHESTERFIELD.
>> YOU ARE RIGHT.
>> AWOUR DRAW BRIDGE IS THE MOST OF EVERY STATE.
>> THE ROADS ARE PRETTY MUCH BEATEN UP WITH ALL THE TOUR BUSES GOING IN FRONT OF THE WIESE MANSION.
>> I WANT TO ASK YOU, SARAH, ABOUT A STORY THAT'S IN YOUR PAPER THIS WEEK.
THERE'S A GUY FROM MADISON, ILLINOIS NAMED ERIC BUT ERICK BUNTYN.
HE WENT OUTSIDE IN THE HALLWAY AND EPITHETS AT THE JUDGE AND HE SAID JUDGE AND JURY, I SEE YOU IN THE STREET.
I'M GOING TO KILL YOU.
HE WAS ARRESTED, AND NOW HE'S IN JAIL WITH NO POSSIBILITY OF BOND.
HE..
HE'S STUCK IN THIS JAIL RIGHT NOW.
RIDICULOUS.
HE W..
HE SHOULD BE CHARGED, BUT HE SHOULD BE OUT ON THE STREETS.
>> HIS ATTORNEY JERRYL CHRISTMAS MADE A GOOD POINT.
HE SAID WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN CHARGED WITH ATTEMPTED MANSLAUGHTER OR ACTUALLY SHOT AT PEOPLE.
WE LET THEM OUT ON B.. THEIR TRIAL.
THIS GUY IN THE HEAT OF THE MOMENT SAID SOMETHING HE ABSOLUTELY SHOULDN'T HAVE SAID.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD ARGUE THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE TAKEN HIM INTO CUSTODY.
HE SHOULD HAVE HAD A COOLING OFF PERIOD.
BU..
THIS MAN FOR WEEKS ON END.
IT WILL BE MONTHS ON END.
WE ARE NOT GIVING HIM A CHANCE TO GET OUT WHILE HE WAITS FOR TRIAL TO SEE IF HE'S PROVEN GUILTY.
WE.. LOUIS ABOUT WHAT A PROBLEM IT WAS THAT WE WERE HOLDING PEOPLE BEFORE THEY WEREY OF A CRIME.
THIS MAN DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO MAKE EVERYONE THINK IT WAS A SERIOUS THREAT, HE JUST SHOUTED SOMETHING IN A MOMENT OF ANGER.
WE ARE GOING TO SAY THREE WEEKS IN JAIL AT THIS POINT AND COUNTING?
>> I AGREE.
THE JURY DIDN'T HEAR HIM.
THE JUDGE DIDN'T HEAR HIM.
I GUESS IT WAS A THREAT TO THESE PEOPLE WHO NEVER HEARD THIS THREAT.
AND THE MAN WH.. PEOPLE AFTER THE DRAKE CONCERT IS OUT ON BOND.
THIS GUY IS IN JAIL.
THAT MAKES NO SENSE.
>> THE GUY WHO KILLED TWO PEOPLE AFTER THE CONCERT SHOULD SHOULD BE IBE INJAIL BUT I THINK THIS FELLA DESERVES TO BE IN JAIL AS WELL.
WE CAN'T HAVE PEOPLE THREATENING JUDGES AND JURIES IN THE COURT SYSTEM.
WE.. DON'T MEAN IT AND WE ARE GOING TO LET YOU OUT.
WE CAN'T TOLERATE PEOPLE THREATENING JUDGES AND JURIES.
>> AND JUDGE NOBLE SAID I HEARD THREATS BEFORE.
I HEARD THREAT..
I HAVE HEARD THREATS TO THE JURIES.
TH.. >> I SEE HIS POINT, AND I APPRECIATE WHERE JUDGE NOBLE IS COMING FROM ON THIS.
HE WAS THE JUDGE IN THE CASE.
THIS WAS A THREAT TO HIM.
HE TESTIFIED TO SAY HE THOUGHT HE SHOULD BE HELD IN JAIL.
THERE HAVE BEEN JUDGES WHO HAVE FACED TERRIBLE ATTACKS, PEOPLE GOING TO THEIR HOUSE.
>> THE SON WHO WAS KILLED IN NEW YORK.
&g..
IT'S THE MOST HEART .. THING.
THIS GUY IS A HOT HEAD WHO WAS VENTING IN THE HALLWAY.
>> WE DON'T KNOW THAT.
>> WE CAN'T SAY WITH CERTAINTY.
BETTER SAFE THAN -- WELL.
>> I HONESTLY THINK HE JUST -- IT RUBBED HIM.
HELD WITHOUT BOND?
COME ON.
>> LET'S NOT FORGET THE CITY JUSTICE CENTER, THIS IS A PLACE WE SEE PEOPLE ARE DYING.
THIS IS REALLY DIRE CONDITIONS HERE.
IT'S NOT LIKE THEY ARE SENDING TO CLUB FED.
SOME OF THESE ARE FINE PLACES TO WAIT FOR YOUR DAY IN COURT.
>> WE WILL HAVE A SECOND PLACE TO SEND HIM.
>> WENDY WIESE, LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE LETTER FOR THE ATTORNEY HAZEL WOOD SCHOOLS SENT TO ANDREW BAILEY WHO HAD RELEASED A STATEMENT SAYING THAT HE THOUGHT THAT THE DEI PRACTICES OF HAZEL WOOD RESULTED IN A VERY SERIOUS FIGHT AMONG SOME OF THE STUDENTS RECENTLY.
I GUESS MY WHOLE POINT IS WE HAVE SEEN A LOT NOW RECENTLY WHERE A LOT OF THESE SCHOOL MANNERS ARE NEWS STORIES, AND THERE WAS A TIME WHEN BOYS AND GIRLS WENT TO SCHOOL AND THINGS WENT WRONG, BUT IT DIDN'T MAKE THE FRONT PAGE OF THE PAPER, WASN'T DISCUSSED ON "DONNYBROOK" OR CHANNEL 4, 5, 2.
I THINK THE KIDS SHOULD BE SPARED THE MEDIA TREATMENT.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS GOING ON THERE.
THE ATTORNEY FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE DIRE WHEN IT COMES TO MR. BAILEY AND MITSING THE MISSING THE FOREST FROM THE TREES, IF YOU WILL, AND NOT HAVING ANY OF THE FACTS STRAIGHT.
IF YOU ARE NOT BEING FACTUAL IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU ARE SHARING IN TERMS OF THE ACCOUNT OF WHAT HAPPENED.
I TH..
HER MAYBE DEDICATE A LITTLE BIT OF THE LETTER TO THE INCIDENT ITSELF.
THAT HAS GOT T..
IN TERMS OF CHILDREN BEING ABOVE NEWS COVERAGE, I JUST THINK THAT'S -- WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I THINK THAT'S RIDICULOUS.
>> RESPECT IS DUE.
>> BUT IF YOU ARE A PARENT IN THE DISTRICT AND THERE IS SOMETHING GOING ON AND IT DOESN'T RECEIVE THE KIND OF COVERAGE -- I MEAN, KIDS ARE KILLED.
.. TODAY.
>> NOT A FISTFIGHT BETWEEN A COUPLE OF KIDS.
THIS WAS A VERY SERIOUS INJU.. CHARLIE, AND YOU DON'T WANT TO NOT COVER IT BECAUSE THEY ARE KIDS.
>> I AGREE WITH THAT.
BUT I THINK CHARLIE IS RIGHT.
I HONESTLY BELIEVE WHILE THIS WAS A HORRIFIC INCIDENT, AND THIS DISCOVERS ALL THE COVERAGE IT HAS RECEIVED AND WILL IN THE FUTURE.
HO.. SCHOOLS ARE HELL HOLES AND PUBLIC SCHOOLS GOING TO CRAP AND ALL OF THAT IS BLOWN OUT OF PROPORTION, A, BY SOCIAL MEDIA, AND BY THE ZEAL FOR REPORTING ANYTHING BAD THAT IS GOING ON WITHIN A SCHOOL.
AS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL MADE IT NOW, IF IT HAPPENS A QUARTER MILE AWAY FROM THE SCHOOL, IT'S THE SCHOOL.
THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME KIND OF HAPPY MEDIUM WE COULD FIND TO, YOU KNOW, SAY WAIT A MINUTE.
DOES THIS RISE TO THE OCCASION?
OR ARE WE COVERING THIS STORY BECAUSE IT INVOLVES A HIGH SCHOOL AND STUDENTS?
MAYBE BETTER NEWS JUDGMENT -- NOT ON THIS CASE BUT A LOT OF THINGS WE ARE SEEING TODAY INVOLVING SCHOOLS.
>> I THINK FIGHTS, WHEN THE SCHOOL GETS SHUT DOWN BECAUSE OF FIGHTS, FOR INSTANCE, I THINK THAT'S NEWS.
>> YET WE DON'T REPORT CE..
ASPECTS OF RAPES.
WE DON'T REPORT NAMES AND STUFF.
>> WE ARE NOT REPORTING THESE KIDS NAMES.
>> AT TIMES THE MEDIA CAN HOLD BACK, JUST AS IT DOES WITH BOMB THREATS.
>> THAT'.. OF THE VICTIMS.
>> BOMB THREATS, BUT SUICIDES AREN'T?
>> STAND.. ON SOME OF THIS STUFF.
WHEN I WAS A YOUNG REPORTER 25 YEARS AGO, WE WOULD NEVER REPORT ON A SUICIDE BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T WANT TO ENCOURAGE COPYCATS.
THAT HAS ALL CHANGED.
>> WHAT ABOUT SCHOOL SHOOTINGS?
CAN WE DENY A LOT OF SCHOOL SHOOTINGS ARE COPYCATS?
>> IT'S HEART BREAKING.
YOU CAN'T LOOK AWAY.
WHEN THAT CAME HERE, WERE WE SUPPOSED TO PRETEND IT DIDN'T HAPPEN?
..
IT'S ONE WAY TO GET ATTENTION.
BUT NOT COVERING IT, I DON'T THINK SOLVES THE PROBLEM.
>> TWO-MINUTE WARNING ON THE FLOOR.
BOTH ILLINOIS ..
SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING DIALING BACK OR ELIMINATING THE SALES TAX ON FOOD.
THERE ARE ONLY 13 STATES IN THE COUNTRY THAT TAX GROCERIES, ILLINOIS AND MISSOURI ARE AMONG THEM.
..
I MAYOR OF BRENTWOOD WHO I SAW AT SAM'S.
I THINK WE ARE GOING TO ELIMINATE THIS TAX AND THAT TAX AND NOBODY HAS THOUGHT IT OUT.
I DIDN'T REALIZE IT, BUT BRENTWOOD HAS FOUR GROCERY STORES.
HE.. SAID HEY.
>> BRENTWOOD IS THE LEAST OF ANYONE'S WORRIES.
BRENTWOOD IS GOING TO BE FINE NO MATTER WHAT.
THEY HAVE A TON OF RETAIL THERE.
THEY DON'T NEED TO TAX GROCERIES.
I ..
MUNICIPALITIES THIS IS A PROBLEM AND WE ARE GOING TO REFIGURE OUR TAX CODE.
THIS IS THE MOST REG..
IT'S HORRIBLE WHAT IT DOES TO POOR PEOPLE.
I WAS SHOCKED WHEN I M.. MISSOURI AND WAS GETTING TAXED ON THE GROCERIES.
THINK OF SOMEBODY WHOSE LOW INCOME STRUGGLING TO COVER BILLS AND PAY A TAX.
>> HOW ABOUT A GAS TAX?
THAT HITS POOR PEOPLE, TOO.
>> I THINK WE SHOULD GO TO A SYSTEM THAT'S MUCH MORE BASED ON THINGS LIKE PROPERTY TAX, INCOME TAX.
TH..
RIGHT.
.. >> OBVIOUSLY YOU WANT THE MAYOR OF BRENTWOOD TO WATCH HIMSELF.
WAS THAT YOUR LANGUAGE?
I THINK THE SHOT ACROSS THE BOW HAS BEEN FIRED.
WHAT ABOUT SYKESTON?
THEY SAY THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT OUR POLICE PROTECTION.
>> SYKES IS JUST THROWING THOSE ROLLS.
..
THINGS JEFFERSON CITY WHAT CAN WE MESS WITH ST. LOUIS AGAIN?
MEANWHILE YOU ARE MESSING UP THE WHOLE STATE.
>> HOLD THAT THOUGHT.
GET TO THE OLD MAILBAG.
WITH ALL THE ATTENTION TO THE RECENT FIGHT BETWEEN HAZELWOOD EAST STUDENTS AND FIGHT AMONG LAWYERS AND THE MISSOURI AG, IT WOULD BE NICE TO TURN EFFORTS INTO TEACHING STUDENTS MATH, ENGLISH AND MANNERS.
AND HEARD FROM LES WHO WROTE I WATCHED THE DISCUSSION REGARDING THE POTENTIAL ELIMINATION OF THE INCOME TAX.
TO BE FAIR, YOU NE..
THE COMPARISON OF ALL THE OVERALL STATE TAX BURDENS.
MISSOURI STANDS 39th OUT OF 50 STATES IN OVERALL STATE LOCAL TAX BURDEN AND SIGNIFICANTLY BELOW THE NATIONAL AVERAGE.
ELIMINATING THE TAX IN MISSOURI WOULD HAVE DEVASTATING EFFECTS IN ANY MACHINE.
MICHAEL OF ST. LOUIS WROTE EXPECTING INCOME TAX CUTS TO RESULT IN POSITIVE TRICKLE DOWN EFFECT HASN'T WORKED SINCE RONALD REAGAN'S ILL ADVISED CUTS INCREASED THE FEDERAL DEFICIT.
INSTANT IS DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AND EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS.
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