BOSTON, AS NASHVILLE AND THE COUNTRY REAL FROM YET ANOTHER MASH SHOOTING, LAWMAKERS ARE YET AGAIN AT ODDS OVER HOW TO ADDRESS THIS VERY REAL PROBLEM.

THEN, DISCUSSION OF THE DIABETES DRUG OZEMPIC HAS TAKEN OVER SOCIAL MEDIA AND HOLLYWOOD.

BUT IS IT DRAGGING DOWN THE BODY POSITIVITY MOVEMENT?

REMEMBERING THE ICONIC BOSTON ACTIVIST AND POLITICIAN MEL KING.

THREE YOUNG CHILDREN ALL ABOUT NINE YEARS OLD OR MASSACRED AT SCHOOL THIS WEEK.

THE LATEST VICTIMS OF THE HORRIFIC AND UNIQUELY AMERICAN PHENOMENON OF MASS SHOOTINGS THAT KEEP HAPPENING OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

THIS TIME IT WAS THREE YOUNG STUDENTS AND THREE STAFF MEMBERS AT THE COVENANT SCHOOL IN NASHVILLE.

THEY WERE GUNNED DOWN IN A RAMPAGE THAT LASTED 14 MINUTES BEFORE THE ATTACKER, WHO WAS ARMED WITH A PISTOL AND TO ASSAULT RIFLES, WAS SHOT AND KILLED BY POLICE.

EVELYN DIECKHAUS, HALLIE SCRUGGS, ILEUM KENNY, CYNTHIA PEAK, KATHERINE KOONCE, AND MIKE HILL JOINED THE NEARLY 200 OTHERS KILLED IN MASS SHOOTINGS AND JUST THE LAST THREE MONTHS.

WHILE INVESTIGATING CONTINUE TO LOOK INTO EMOTIVE, POLICE OF SAID THAT THIS ATTACK WAS CALCULATED AND PLANNED.

ON CAPITOL HILL, LAWMAKERS ARE AT ODDS IN THEIR RESPONSE.

DEMOCRATS ARE CALLING OUT FOR STRICTER GUN CONTROL MEASURES, BUT ON THE GOP SIDE, THERE HAVE BEEN MORE CALLS FOR PRAYER, AND TO SIT AND WAIT A FORMAL WHAT -- VESTING ISSUE.

>> WE CAN PASS ALTHOUGH THE LAWS WE WANT.

SOMEBODY IS GOING TO GET AMMONIUM NITRATE.

COMPLETELY EVIL, DIDN'’T HAVE AN ASSAULT WEAPON, WHATEVER THAT IS.

DIDN'’T HAVE ANY OF THAT, THAT'’S WHAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE.

THE LAWS DON'’T WORK.

UNTO THE BILL CHANGE THEIR HEARTS, WE ARE NOT GOING TO SEE A CHANGE.

CRYSTAL: TO DISCUSS THIS, I AM JOINED BY JOHN ROSENTHAL, COFOUNDER OF STOP HANDGUN VIOLENCE, AND MARK BARDEN.

MARCO LOST HIS SON DANIEL IN THE 2012 SHOOTING AT SANDY HOOK ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

IT'’S A SHAME THAT WE ARE MEETING AGAIN THIS WAY AND THAT THIS CONVERSATION CONTINUES.

I WANT TO START WITH MARK.

YOU PROBABLY HEAR THIS QUESTION ALL THE TIME.

I AM AT A LOSS FOR WORDS.

WHEN YOU SEE THIS ON THE NEWS OVER AND OVER AGAIN, IT'’S LIKE REOPENING THE WOUND.

MARK: THIS IS NOT NATURAL.

THIS IS NOT NORMAL, THIS NOT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE DISCUSSED.

I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE AT A LOSS FOR WORDS.

WHEN I GOT THE NEWS FROM A TEXT, I USED TO LIVE IN NASHVILLE AS A MUSICIAN, I HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS THERE.

IT STOPPED ME IN MY TRACKS.

ANOTHER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SHOOTING IN AMERICA, IT BRINGS ME BACK TO SANDY HOOK, WHERE I LOST MY SEVEN-YEAR-OLD SON DANIEL.

IMMEDIATELY MY THOUGHTS GO TO THOSE FAMILIES WHO ARE STARTING THIS HORRIBLE LIFELONG JOURNEY THAT NOBODY SHOULD HAVE TO BE ON.

I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOLUTIONS AVAILABLE TO US.

WHEN I HEAR LEGISLATORS SAY NOTHING WILL WORK, I'’M NOT SURE WHAT THAT EVEN MEANS.

I DON'’T THINK THAT PERSON DOES EITHER.

THERE ARE SOLUTIONS AVAILABLE TO US.

IT IS NOT JUST FOR OF YOUR HANDS AND GIVE UP.

WE HAVE WORK TO DO.

CRYSTAL: JOHN, HOW MANY YEARS HAS IT BEEN SINCE THE BILLBOARD WENT UP?

JOHN: 30 YEARS YEAR.

THAT IS OVER ONE MILLION DEAD AMERICANS AGO.

THE HOPE, MY OPTIMISM IS THAT SINCE 1994, WHEN WE STARTED THIS WORK, WE HAVE REDUCED THE RATE OF GUN DEATHS IN MASSACHUSETTS BY 40%.

WE ARE AN URBAN STATE.

WITH THE MOST EFFECTIVE GUN LAWS AND REGULATIONS WITHOUT BANNING MOST GUNS AND THE LOWEST GUN DEATH RATE IN THE NATION.

IF EVERY STATE SIMPLY HAD THE SAME LOW GUN DEATH RATE AS URBAN MASSACHUSETTS, 27,000 OF THE 45,000 AMERICANS KILLED LAST YEAR COULD BE ALIVE TODAY.

GUN VIOLENCE PREVENTION IS NOT THEORETICAL.

IT HAS BEEN PROVEN.

EVERY STATE, MASSACHUSETTS HAS THE LOWEST.

NEW YORK, NEW JERSEY, EVERY STATE THAT HAS EFFECTIVE GUN LAWS LIKE MASSACHUSETTS, HAS THE LOWEST GUN DEATH RATES IN THE NATION.

IN EVERY STATE WITHOUT A BACKGROUND CHECKS, WITHOUT RESTRICTIONS ON ASSAULT WEAPONS, WITHOUT EFFECTIVE GUN LAWS, HAVE THE HIGHEST RATES OF GUN DEATH.

FOR A MEMBER OF CONGRESS TO SAY THERE IS NOTHING THAT CAN BE DONE, IS BS.

EVERY STATE THAT HAS PASSED GUN LAWS BEGINNING WITH BACKGROUND CHECKS, HAS A LOWER GUN DEATH RATES.

CRYSTAL: WE KNOW THAT THIS SHOOTER HAD ACCESS TO THE SEVEN GUNS.

WAS BEING TREATED FOR AN EMOTIONAL DISORDER.

YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT BACKGROUND CHECKS, GUN CONTROL, THE CONVERSATION IS STILL THE SECOND AMENDMENT, AND IT EVOLVES INTO OTHER THINGS.

HAS THIS WORK BECOME MORE DIFFICULT AS WE HAVE SEEN THE FAR RIGHT TO BECOME MORE RADICALIZED?

WE SAW SENATOR MCCARTHY -- SPEAKER MCCARTHY REFUSING REPORTERS QUESTIONS THIS MORNING.

I WANT TO START WITH YOU MARK, HAS THE WORK OF GOTTEN HARDER IN THE LAST 10 YEARS?

OR SINCE WE HAVE SEEN THE FAR RIGHT GET MORE OF A FOOTHOLD INTO CONGRESS AND THE SENATE?

MARK: I WAS WORKING ON THIS PROBLEM IN AMERICAN AFTER MY SON WAS KILLED.

I WAS A NEOPHYTE, I DIDN'’T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HOW THIS ALL WORKS.

I HAD TO LEARN QUICKLY.

ONE OF THOSE QUICK LEARNING LESSONS WAS, WHEN CONGRESS TRIED TO PASS THE BACK RENT CHECK A TO CLOSE THE LOOP L -- LOOP HOLE.

DESPITE THE SUPPORT OF 90% OF AMERICA, THAT BILL FAILED.

THAT IS WHEN I HAD AN INFLECTION POINT WHERE I NEEDED TO FIND ANOTHER WAY, WITHOUT GIVING UP ON CONGRESS.

I AM STILL WORKING ON CONGRESS.

WE HAVE HAD SOME SUCCESSES.

I KNEW THERE HAD TO BE A DIFFERENT WAY.

THAT'’S WHEN WE STARTED FOCUSING ON VIOLENCE PREVENTION WITH THE WORK WE DO WITH SANDY HOOK PROMISE.

WE HAVE LEARNED THERE ARE ALWAYS WARNING SIGNS BEFORE SOMEBODY HURTS OTHERS OR THEMSELVES.

EACH ONE OF THOSE WARNING SIGNS REPRESENTS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEBODY WHO IS TRAINED ON HOW TO RECOGNIZE THEM, STEPAN AND CONNECT THE INDIVIDUAL TO HELP BEFORE IT BECOMES A TRAGEDY.

I HAVEN'’T GET OUT -- GIVEN UP ON STATE AND FEDERAL LEGISLATION, WE CAN STILL GET THERE, WE ARE NEVER GOING TO GIVE UP ON THAT.

THE EVIDENCE PROVES THAT IT IS EFFECTIVE.

THERE ARE ADDITIONAL COMPONENTS WE CAN BE WORKING ON.

SANDY HOOK PROMISE STUDENTS TRAINED IN OUR PROGRAMS HAVE NOW PREVENTED 14 PLANNED SCHOOL SHOOTINGS THAT WE CAN SPEAK ABOUT.

THEY WERE IMMINENT AND PLANNED AND READY TO GO BECAUSE THEY RECOGNIZED WARNING SIGNS AND TOLD A TRUSTED ADULT AND GOT HELP.

ALONG WITH HUNDREDS OF SUICIDES AND OTHER ACTS OF VIOLENCE.

THERE IS MORE THAN ONE WAY TO APPROACH THIS VERY COMPLEX PROBLEM.

IT TAKES ALL HANDS ON DECK AND MULTIPLE APPROACHES.

CRYSTAL: ANOTHER THING THAT WE WERE A THOUGHTFUL, AS WE TALK ABOUT TEACHER RECIDIVISM HAS BECOME A PROBLEM, ESPECIALLY INCREASINGLY.

KNOW WHAT TO PUT UP NUMBERS FROM A RESEARCH CENTER POLL THAT SHOWS THAT 63% OF THE TEACHERS SURVEYED SAID THAT THEY FEAR PURPOSEFUL MASS HOMICIDE BY AN OUTSIDER.

OF THAT 63%, 32% BY AN OUTSIDER, AND 31% BY A STUDENT.

THAT IS FORCING THEM OUT OF THE TEACHING PROFESSION.

THEN WE ARE SEEING THE SECURITY SOLUTION, SAVE CLASSROOMS, WE HAVE SEEN A VIDEO ON SOCIAL MEDIA, THE TEACHER PULLING OUT THESE SAFE ROOMS.

IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THIS IS A DISTRACTION TO WHAT REALLY NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

I THINK THEY WERE $5,000 EACH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

TO SPEND THAT MONEY ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHERE IT SEEMS LIKE HAVING A CONVERSATION, TAKING ACTION ON THE LEGISLATIVE LEVEL WOULD BE MORE EFFECTIVE.

JOHN: WE NEED TO REPLICATE EFFECTIVE MODEL LAWS THAT HAVE PROVEN TO REDUCE GUN DEATHS WITHOUT BANNING GUNS.

TRUTH IS STRANGER THAN FICTION.

YOU NEED A BACK AND CHECK TO DRIVE A SCHOOL BUS, BUT NOT BY A N AR-15.

WE GIVE LAW ENFORCEMENT 13-17 ROUNDS AND THEIR SERVICE WEAPONS TO PROTECT US, THAT CONGRESS GIVES 35-100 ROUND MAGAZINES WITH ASSAULT WEAPONS WITHOUT BACKGROUND CHECKS.

POLICE DIE WHEN THEY ARE RELOADING.

WHEN YOU HUNT DUCK AND DEER IN THIS COUNTRY, YOU NEED A LICENSE.

WHEN YOU HUNT DUCK, YOU ARE LIMITED TO THREE ROUNDS.

DEER, FIVE ROUNDS.

WHEN YOU HUNT HUMANS, NO LICENSE, NO LIMITS ON THE NUMBER OF ROUNDS.

THE ONLY THING STANDING IN THE WAY OF TREATING GUNS LIKE INHERENTLY DANGEROUS AUTOMOBILE, WHICH IS THE ANALOGY HERE IN MASSACHUSETTS, IT'’S WHAT WE DO, THE ONLY THING STANDING IN THE WAY OUR SPINELESS REPUBLICAN MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AT THIS POINT.

THEY ARE CHOOSING LEAD MONEY CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS OVER THE HEALTH AND SAFETY AND LIVES OF ANOTHER 100 AND 10 WILL DIE TODAY, THERE WILL BE ANOTHER MASS SHOOTING, THERE WILL BE 91 SCHOOL SHOOTINGS IN LESS THAN 91 DAYS OF THIS YEAR.

IT IS A CHOICE.

THE REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS HAVE TAKEN.

YOUR KIDS, OUR KIDS, OUR TEACHERS, ARE NOT SAFE IN SCHOOLS.

THERE IS NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.

NOR ARE WE SAFE IN SYNAGOGUES, OR CHURCHES, OR MOVIE THEATERS, OR SHOPPING MALLS.

THAT IS A CHOICE.

UNTIL WE VOTE THESE SPINELESS MEMBERS OUT OF CONGERS, IT IS NOT GOING TO STOP.

CRYSTAL: MARK, WE HEAR FROM THE NRA, THEY SAY SUICIDES ARE THE HIGHEST INSTANCES OF GUN DEATH.

NOTE THAT IS THE OTHER SIDE, THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS ALWAYS THE COUNTERPOINT TO ALL OF THIS.

WHAT MESSAGE DO YOU HAVE TWO FOLKS WHO ARE STILL AT HOME IS SAYING, I STILL WANT MY GUNS.

I BELIEVE IN THE SECOND AMENDMENT.

WE ALL KNOW THOSE PEOPLE.

MARK: NOTHING THAT JOHN OR I JUST ARTICULATED INTERFERES WITH THAT.

EVERYTHING THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT IS CONSISTENT WITH FOLKS RIGHT TO OWN A FIREARM IF THEY WISH TO DO SO.

THERE ARE SOLUTIONS AVAILABLE TO US, WHETHER IT IS TRAINING STUDENTS HOW TO RECOGNIZE WARNING SIGNS, AND CONNECT SOMEBODY TO HELP BEFORE IT BECOMES A TRAGEDY, ALONG WITH SAFE GUN POLICY, WILL PRODUCE GOOD PUBLIC SAFETY OUTCOMES WITHOUT INFRINGING ON RIGHTS.

THERE ARE SOLUTIONS AVAILABLE TO US NOW.

IT IS UP TO EVERYBODY TO GET SERIOUS ABOUT THIS CONVERSATION AND THING ABOUT WHAT YOU CAN DO TO BE PART OF THE SOLUTION.

JOHN: I'’M A GUN OWNER.

AND A LOT OF BOARD MEMBERS ARE GUN OWNERS.

IT'’S NOT DIFFICULT TO GET A GUN LICENSE, GET TRAINED, STORE YOUR GUN SAFELY AND COMPLY WITH CONSUMER SAFETY STANDARDS.

UNLESS YOU HAVE A FELONY AND IT IS PICKED UP IN A BACKGROUND CHECK.

YOU HAVE TO START WITH BACKGROUND CHECKS, AND THEN YOU HAVE GOT TO REMOVE ASSAULT WEAPONS, WEAPONS OF WAR THAT HAVE NO PURPOSE WHATSOEVER OTHER THAN KILLING A LOT OF PEOPLE QUICKLY WITHOUT HAVING TO RELOAD.

THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN MASSACHUSETTS THAT HAS PROVEN TO WORK.

CRYSTAL: WE CAN HAVE THIS CONVERSATION ALL DAY LONG, THE HOPE IS THAT WE DON'’T HAVE TO SIT HERE AGAIN.

JOHN ROSENTHAL AND MARK BARDEN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

UP NEXT AND THERE IS A GOOD CHANCE YOU HAVE HEARD ABOUT THE DRUG OWES THEM PICK IN RECENT WEEKS.

THE DIABETES AND OPEN CITY MEDICATION ALSO SOLD -- HAS BEEN MAKING HEADLINES AS MANY SOCIAL MEDIA INFLUENCERS CREDIT THE INJECTIONS AS A QUICK FIX FOR WEIGHT LOSS.

IT HAS ALSO PUMPED A SPECULATION SURROUNDING CELEBRITIES WHO HAVE SLIMMED DOWN DRAMATICALLY.

THE OBSESSION COMES AS FASHION TRENDS AND RUNWAY STYLES SEEM TO REVERT BACK TO THE SO-CALLED HEROIN CHIC, STICK THIN IDEALS OF THE LATE 1990'’S AND EARLY 2000'’S.

DOCTORS ARE WARNING THAT THE FLOOD OF DEMAND FOR THIS MEDICATION IS CAUSING ASSORTED -- SHORTAGE FOR PEOPLE WHO NEED IT AND AMERICAN DEMAND HAS PRINTED OFFICIALS IN BRITISH COLUMBIA, CANADA, TO RESTRICT HOW MUCH IS A BIG CAN BE SOLD TO PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE COMPANY -- COUNTRY AFTER DISCOVERING AN ALARMING PRESENT OF THE PROVINCES SALES OF THE DRUG WENT TO AMERICAN RESIDENTS.

WHILE THE BODY POSITIVITY MOVEMENT HAS MADE STRIDES, IT APPEARS IT IS ONE STEP FORWARD, TWO STEPS BACK WITH THE CEASELESS COMMENTARY ON CELEBRITY'’S BODIES, AS JOURNALISTS KELSEY WEEKMAN WROTE, FOR EVERY TIKTOK ARE WEARING WHATEVER SHE WANT, THERE'’S A POST RIDICULING US LIBERTY FOR NOT CHOOSING SOME THING FLATTERING.

KELSEY JOINS ME NOW, SHE IS A REPORTER AT THE BUZZFEED NEWS, ALONG WITH DR. FATIMA CODY STANFORD, AND OBESITY MEDICINE PHYSICIAN, SCIENTIST AT MASS GENERAL HOSPITAL.

KELSEY, I CANNOT SCROLL THROUGH MY SOCIAL MEDIA WITHOUT SOMEONE MENTIONING THE OZEMPIC DIET, HOW SKINNY THE KARDASHIANS ARE, IT IS, I THING OF ALL OF THE HARD WORK WE DID IN THE 90'’S AND EARLY 2000S SO THAT THE NEXT GENERATION COULD WEAR HIGH WAISTED PANTS AND LEATHER BODIES.

IT FEELS LIKE A THROWAWAY.

KELSEY: IT DOESN'’T SEEM LIKE WE ARE GOING BACKWARDS IN TERMS OF BODY ACCEPTANCE AND POSITIVITY.

IT HAS BEEN ALL OVER MY FEED AS WELL.

I CAN'’T LOG ONTO SOCIAL MEDIA WITHOUT SEEING SOMEBODY TALK ABOUT OZEMPIC, WEIGHT LOSS, USE IT AS A WAY TO CRITIQUE A SOMEBODIES BODY SIZE, IT IS EVERYWHERE.

CRYSTAL: WHEN YOU ARE WRITING THESE ARTICLES, TALKING ABOUT CELEBRITIES, I AM THING ABOUT THE OSCARS, TONS OF JOKES ABOUT THAT KIND OF THING.

WHAT ARE THINGS YOU THAT YOU ARE SEEING IN TERMS OF THE COVERAGE OF THESE CELEBRITIES THINNING OUT, SLIMMING DOWN, AND ATTRIBUTED TO OZEMPIC?

KELSEY: CELEBRITIES ARE ALWAYS IN THAT SPACE WHERE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT THEM, AND BECAUSE THEY HAVE A BIG FOOTPRINT, PEOPLE ABLE TO COMPARE WHAT THEY USED TO LOOK LIKE TO WHAT THEY DID NOW.

RECENTLY, MEDIA HAS BECOME EXTREMELY FIXATED ON CERTAIN CELEBRITIES OR TYPES OF CELEBRITIES THAT LOOKED DIFFERENT.

MINDY KALING JUST SLIMMED DOWN QUITE A BIT, PEOPLE ASKED IF SHE WAS USING WEIGHT LOSS DRUGS, SHE DENIED IT.

THAT FOCUS IS ON HER BODY.

WHEN A CELEBRITY LOSES WEIGHT LIKE THAT, IT OFTEN BECOMES WHAT THEY ARE KNOWN FOR.

CELEBRITIES LIKE ADELE AND OPRAH IN THE PAST HAVE LOST A LOT OF WEIGHT, THAT HAS BEEN SO MANY HEADLINES INVOLVING THEM, EVEN THOUGH THEY DO SO MUCH MORE.

WE ARE JUST SEEING THIS AS THE REASON WHY A LOT OF CELEBRITIES ARE BEING TALKED ABOUT.

CRYSTAL: AS I READ MORE ABOUT THIS DRUG AND FOLKS USING IT, THE EASE OF ACCESS TO IT WAS WHAT WAS SURPRISING TO ME.

THERE WAS A REPORT IN THE NEW YORKER, REPORTER ABLE TO PUT IN FAKE EMI NUMBERS AND GET IT.

WE JUST HEARD THAT EXAMPLE OUT OF CANADA, THEY HAD TO CRACK DOWN ON FOLKS GETTING IT.

IT SEEMS LIKE PEOPLE ARE EASILY ABLE TO ACCESS THIS DRUG.

DR. STANFORD: IT IS FRUSTRATING FOR ME TO HAVE IT IS SUCH THAT MY PATIENTS THAT WOULD BENEFIT FROM THESE MEDICATIONS BECAUSE OF THEIR OBESITY AND CHRONIC DISEASES, NOT BEING ABLE TO GET ACCESS TO IT.

THOSE THAT DON'’T REALLY SEEM TO HAVE ANY INDICATIONS FOR THESE MEDICATIONS BEING ABLE TO GET IT WITH RELATIVE EASE.

ALL OF 2022, FOR MY PATIENTS THAT WERE ON THESE MEDICATIONS, OR ARE TRYING TO GET ON THEM, THAT HAD TO THE APPROPRIATE INDICATIONS, I WASN'’T ABLE TO GET IT FOR 6-9 MONTHS.

YOU CAN'’T GET INTO SEE ME UNLESS YOU HAVE OBESITY AND CHRONIC DISEASE.

YET THOSE PEOPLE COULDN'’T GET IT.

IT'’S LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE ABLE TO.

THAT'’S PROBLEMATIC.

THIS IS NOT A VANITY DRUG.

IT IS BEING UTILIZED AS SUCH.

IF THE MEDICATION IS NEEDED FOR A PERSON, THIS IS A LONG-TERM SUSTAINED USE THAT IS NEEDED FOR THESE MEDICATIONS FOR THE TRIP AND OBESITY AND TYPE TWO DIABETES.

WHAT I'’M HEARING IS NOT THAT STORY.

THAT IS PROBLEMATIC WHEN WE THING ABOUT THIS IN THE CONTEXT OF TREATING PATIENTS THAT ACTUALLY HAVE A DISEASE THAT COULD BENEFIT FROM THESE FOUR ACTUAL TREATMENTS.

CRYSTAL: FOR FOLKS WHO DON'’T KNOW WHAT IT DOES, TALK TO US ABOUT THAT.

DR. STANFORD: THERE ARE TWO PRIMARY PATHWAYS OF THE BRAIN THAT RELATE WEIGHT.

THESE MEDICATIONS ACT ON STIMULATING THE PATHWAY OF YOUR BRAIN THAT TELLS YOU TO EAT LESS AND STORE LESS, WHILE INHIBITING OR BLOCKING THE AGRP PATHWAY, WHICH TELLS US TO EAT MORE AND STORE MORE.

WHEN THEY TAKE IT, THEY NOTICE TANGIBLE DIFFERENCES IN THEIR DESIRES, THEIR SATIETY, BECAUSE IT IS WORKING ON THAT PRIMARY BIOLOGY THAT REGULATES FOOD INTAKE WITHIN THE HYPOTHALAMUS OF OUR BRAINS.

CRYSTAL: THIS IS A DRUG YOU HAVE TO TAKE FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE IN ORDER TO SUSTAIN THIS WEIGHT LOSS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE ON THE DRUG.

DR. STANFORD: THE PERSON THAT PUBLISH THE MAJOR STUDY THAT CAME OUT IN THE NEW ENGLAND JOURNAL IN 2021, WHEN THIS MEDICATION WAS FIRST APPROVED FOR THE TREATMENT OF OBESITY, HE PUBLISHED A SUBSEQUENT STUDY THAT LOOKED AT WITHDRAWAL OF THE MEDICATION.

WHAT HAPPENS TO INDIVIDUALS IN TERMS OF WEIGHT GAIN AND WEIGHT LOSS.

WHAT HE SAW WAS EXACTLY WHAT WE WOULD HAVE ANTICIPATED, AND WE ARE NO LONGER ACTING ON THOSE PATHWAYS TO THE BRAIN, THEY WILL REGAIN WHAT THEY LOST.

THAT IS WHAT WE ANTICIPATE.

YOU ARE PLAYING AROUND WITH THESE, WEIGHT CYCLING, GOING ON IT JUST TO GO LOOK CUTE FOR THE OSCARS, THAT'’S NOT THE WAY WE SHOULD BE USING THESE.

THEY ARE MEDICATIONS THAT ARE USED TO ACT ON THE BRAIN TO CHANGE THE LIKELIHOOD OF DEATH AND REDUCES THE LIKELIHOOD OF STROKE.

HEART ATTACK, AND ADMISSIONS FOR HEART FAILURE, FOR EXAMPLE.

THAT'’S NOT WHAT IT SOUND LIKE IT IS BEING USED FOR IN THE CONTEXT OF CELEBRITIES THAT ARE USING THESE TO LOOK CUTE FOR A NICE OUTFIT FOR THE OSCARS.

CRYSTAL: KELSEY, THAT'’S THE PART THAT IS NOT ON THE TIKTOK.

MAYBE A HANDFUL OF INFLUENCERS THAT WERE EARLY ADOPTERS OF IT HAVE A SPOKEN OUT AGAINST IT.

YOU ARE NOT HEARING THOSE VOICES IN THE CHORUS OF FOLKS WHO ARE SUSPECTED OZEMPIC USERS.

KELSEY: IT'’S OF THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DROP QUICK DRESS SIZES, JUST TO LOOK SLIGHTLY THINNER THAN THEY DID BEFORE.

IT'’S PEOPLE WHO ARE UNFORTUNATELY CAVING INTO THE SOCIETAL PRESSURE OF BEING AS SMALL AS POSSIBLE.

NOT NECESSARILY HEALTH RELATED, PEOPLE ARE NOTICING.

PEOPLE ARE CALLING IT OUT.

SOMETIMES THAT IS GOOD.

SOMETIMES IT'’S OK, SOMETIMES IT IS SHAMEFUL.

IT FEELS REALLY BAD.

CRYSTAL: ONE THING ABOUT POPULAR CULTURE IS THE PENDULUM ALWAYS SWINGS SHARPLY IN ONE DIRECTION OR ANOTHER.

I AM THOUGHTFUL ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN CURVY IS BACK IN.

KELSEY: IT'’S POSSIBLE THAT PEOPLE WILL START TAPERING WITH HER HEALTH AND OTHER WAYS.

I THINK THAT FINN HAS ALWAYS BEEN IN, ESPECIALLY FOR CELEBRITIES.

EVENTUALLY THE PENDULUM WILL SWING BACK, THE HEROIN CHIC WANT TO BE THE MOST DESIRED LOOK.

PEOPLE WILL RETHINK WHAT THEY DID TO THEIR BODIES TO ACHIEVE A LOOK THAT ISN'’T SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO LAST A LIFETIME.

CRYSTAL: I IMAGINE YOU ARE HOPING THE TREND GOES BACK THE OTHER WAY SO THAT YOUR PATIENTS CAN HAVE ACCESS TO THIS LIFESAVING MEDICINE.

I NOTICED THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE IT FOR A LIFETIME.

FOLKS WHO HAVE TYPE TWO DIABETES, THEY HAVE TO TAKE INSULIN FOR A LIFETIME AS WELL.

SURE THEY WOULD MUCH RATHER BE DEALING WITH A DRUG THAT WILL ALLOW THEM BETTER HEALTH OVERALL.

DR. STANFORD: I THINK OF THIS FROM A HEALTH PERSPECTIVE.

THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I NEVER COMMENT ON MY PATIENTS AND THEIR WEIGHT AND SIZE IS BECAUSE THAT IS NOT WHAT BRINGS THEM VALUE.

BRING SOME VALUE IS THEIR OVERALL HEALTH AND WHATEVER OTHER CONTRIBUTIONS THEY ARE MAKING.

WHAT WE KNOW IS THE IDEA OF WEIGHT BIAS AND STIGMA SHOWS UP SUPER EARLY IN LIFE.

THE LECTURE I JUST GAVE TODAY WAS ABOUT THIS ISSUE.

WE BEGIN TO DEMONSTRATE TREMENDOUS SIGNS OF WEIGHT BIAS AT ONLY 32 MONTHS OF AGE.

WHEN I SAY THAT TO PARENTS, THEY SAY, I NEVER SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT PEOPLE THAT ARE OF SIZE.

ARE YOU ONLY PUT -- COMMENTING POSITIVELY ON PEOPLE WHO ARE LEAN.

CHILDREN ARE PICKING UP ON THE FACT THAT THAT IS MORE DESIRABLE, THAT IS WHAT MOMMY AND DADDY TALK ABOUT.

THOSE ARE THE NONVERBAL CUES THAT THEY ARE RECEIVING THAT SHAPE HOW THEY INTERACT WITH THE WORLD.

WHEN KELSEY TALKS ABOUT THE THIN IDEAL, BEING PART ABOUT THE -- PART OF THE STATUS QUO, THAT THIN IS DESIRED WHETHER ACHIEVED IN HEALTHY OR UNHEALTHY WAYS, THAT IS PROBLEMATIC.

CRYSTAL: DR. FATIMA CODY STANFORD AND KELSEY WEEKMAN, THICKEST MUCH.

REMEMBERING SEVERAL RIGHTS LEADER AND LEGENDARY BOSTON COMMUNITY ORGANIZER MEL KING.

WHO DIED THIS WEEK AT THE AGE OF 90 FOUR.

THE FORMER STATE REPRESENTATIVE AND THE CITY'’S FIRST BLACK MAYORAL CANDIDATE TO ADVANCE TO THE GENERAL ELECTION SPENT MORE THAN 65 YEARS FIGHTING FOR PROGRESS, BUILDING COALITIONS AND LOOKING OUT FOR HIS NEIGHBORS.

AMONG HIS MANY CAUSES, HE LED DEMONSTRATIONS, PROTESTING THE VIETNAM WAR, PRESSURED LOCAL LAWMAKERS TO BOYCOTT SOUTH AFRICA DURING APARTHEID, AND ORGANIZED COMMUNITIES TO FIGHT FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, INCLUDING A FAMOUS TENT CITY DEMONSTRATION IN THE BACK BAY.

IT ULTIMATELY LED TO THE CREATION OF THE LARGE MIXED INCOME APARTMENT BUILDING IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD NAMED TENT CITY.

>> THEY WERE GOING TO MAKE INTO A PARKING LOT.

WE STOP THEM FROM PARKING.

TENT CITY.

CRYSTAL: HE ALSO FOUGHT TO GET OTHER BLACK BOSTONIANS AND PEOPLE OF COLOR A SEAT AT THE TABLE.

FORMING THE RAINBOW COALITION PARTY IN MASSACHUSETTS.

TOWARD COUNTLESS ACTIVISTS, POLITICIANS AND LEADERS COMING UP BEHIND HIM.

I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF SITTING DOWN WITH MEL KING, WHO IN HIS LATE 80'’S WAS TO HELPING TO RUN A STEM PROGRAM FOR KIDS.

I ASKED HIM, WHAT ADVICE HE HAS FOR THE NEXT GENERATION OF ACTIVISTS TO FOLLOW?

>> THEY HAVE TO DEFINE FOR THEM WHAT KIND OF WORLD THEY WANT TO LIVE IN.

CRYSTAL: I KNOW THAT WE ARE A WHOLE LOT CLOSER TO THE KIND OF WORLD THAT I WANT TO LIVE IN, WANT MY SON TO GROW UP IN, IS TO MEL KING'’S LIFETIME OF SERVICE.

THAT'’S IT FOR TONIGHT, WE WILL BE BACK TOMORROW.

I'’M CRYSTAL HAYNES, THINK YOU FOR WATCHING, GOOD NIGHT.

CRYSTAL: TONIGHT ON GREATER towards the Roque de los Muchachos.

So everything looks perfect today.

NARRATOR: It's a precarious undertaking.

They've got a short window on two of Europe's largest telescopes.

Each one will simultaneously focus on a different quasar-- an extremely distant galaxy emitting huge amounts of light from its core.

♪ ♪ This light will be used to control precise equipment that must be perfectly aligned to make measurements on tiny subatomic particles.

(speaking German): MAN (on radio): Okay.

NARRATOR: And if that isn't tricky enough, the weather on the mountain is notoriously unpredictable.

The team needs perfect conditions for the experiment to work.

♪ ♪ ZEILINGER: In the end it could be running smoothly or there need to be a couple of decisions made, you know, in an excited state in the last instant.

♪ ♪ NARRATOR: With the experiment finally set up, the team takes their positions.

♪ ♪ David Kaiser has worked on this experiment with his colleagues Jason Gallicchio and Andy Friedman for four years.

Coordinating it all is Dominik Rauch.

The experiment is his thesis project, and it's been years in the making.

But as darkness falls, temperatures on the mountain begin to drop.

MAN (speaking German, on radio): (speaking German) Okay, there's bad news.

They have been told to leave the William Herschel because the road will be so dangerous, too dangerous, so they have to go down now.

KAISER: Too icy?

Yeah.

That's okay.

♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ NARRATOR: The next day, the team prepares for another attempt.

♪ ♪ They verify the equipment hasn't been affected by the weather.

But now, the air is thick with clouds.

ZEILINGER: Here's the humidity at the various telescopes,