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Congress members on President Biden’s immigration package. A study of COVID-19 long haulers. Debating universal basic income. Efforts to water down Illinois’ tough biometrics law. Chicago’s box boom.
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March 30, 2021 - Full Show
3/30/2021 | 56m 46sVideo has Closed Captions
Congress members on President Biden’s immigration package. A study of COVID-19 long haulers. Debating universal basic income. Efforts to water down Illinois’ tough biometrics law. Chicago’s box boom.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship[♪♪♪] >> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO "CHICAGO TONIGHT."
I'M PARIS SCHUTZ.
BRANDIS FRIEDMAN HAS THE EVENING OFF.
>> ON THE SHOW TONIGHT... >> THERE IS A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY NOW TO HAVE BIPARTISAN SUPPORT.
>> TRANSPORTATION SECRETARY PETE BUTTIGIEG SAYS HE HOPES PRESIDENT BIDEN'S INFRASTRUCTURE SPENDING PLAN WILL SPEED THROUGH CONGRESS.
THREE LAWMAKERS WEIGH-IN.
>> HEALTH OFFICIALS EXPECT ANOTHER SURGE IN COVID-19 CASES.
AND WHAT DOCTORS ARE WARNING WHAT'S TO COME.
AND BRAIN FOG, FATIGUE AND HEADACHES AND MORE A STUDY FINDS MANY COVID LONG-HAULERS FACE LONG-TERM SYMPTOMS.
HERE FROM THE STUDY'S COAUTHOR AND A PATIENT.
>> IT'S IMPACTED US FROM A REVENUE STANDPOINT BUT IT'S MADED BUSINESS DIFFICULT TO RUN.
>> A SURGE FOR CORREGATED PACKAGING MATERIALS HOW THAT IS PLAYING OUT ACROSS THE CHICAGO AREA.
>> LESS THAN 2% OF THE FUNDING TO LOOK AT A BASIC INCOME PROGRAM.
>> UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME COULD BE COMING TO CHICAGO DUE TO A CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION.
HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT CHICAGOANS?
AND PRIVACY CONCERN AS RISE FROM PROPOSED CHANGES TO ILLINOIS' BIOMETRICS LAW.
>> TEARFUL TESTIMONY FROM THE TEENAGER WHO RECORDED THE NOW INFAMOUS VIDEO OF GEORGE THROID'S DEATH ON DAY TWO OF THE TRIAL OF DEREK CHAUVIN HE FACES CHARGES IN FLOYD'S DEATH.
DARNELLA FRAZIER NOW 18 YEARS OLD BUT A MINOR AT THE TIME SPEAKING OFF CAMERA TOLD THE COURT THAT FLOYD WAS QUOTE TERRIFIED AS HE DIED.
>> I HEARD GEORGE FLOYD SAYING I CAN'T BREATHE.
PLEASE.
GET OFF OF ME.
I CAN'T BREATHE.
HE CRIED FOR HIS MOM.
HE WAS IN PAIN.
IT SEEMED LIKE HE KNEW LIKE HE KNEW IT WAS OVER FOR HIM.
HE WAS TERRIFIED.
>> CHAUVIN PLEADED NOT GUILTY TO UNINTENTIONAL MURDER OF FLOYD AND CHARGED WITH SECOND DEGREE MANSLAUGHTER AND THIRD DEGREE MURDER.
>> ILLINOIS RECORDED MORE CRIMINAL EXONERATIONS THAN ANY OTHER STATE IN 2020 ACCORDING TO A NEW REPORT.
THE REPORT COMES FROM THE NATIONAL REGISTRY OF EGG ONRATIONS AND CONCLUDES THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE STATE'S 22 EXONERATIONS WERE FOR DRUG POSSESSIONS OR SALE CONVICTIONS TIED TO THE POLICE DETECTIVE RONALD WATTS AND HIS TEAM.
ACCORDING TO THE REPORT WATTS AND OTHER OFFICERS PLANTED DRUGS ON PEOPLE AFTER THEY REFUSED TO PAY EXTORTION MONEY.
WATTS RESIGNED IN 2012 AFTER HE PLED GUILTY TO STEALING MONEY FROM A FEDERAL INFORMMANT.
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN IS NOMINATING A FORMER FEDERAL PUBLIC DEFENDER TO SERVE ON CHICAGO FEDERAL APPEALS COURT.
CANDACE JACKSON-AKIWUMI WOULD BE THE ONLY BLACK WOMAN ON THE 7TH U.S.
CIRCUIT COURT OF APPEALS IF CONFIRMED BY THE SENATE.
SHE IS A PARTNER AT ZUCKER MAN SPADER IN WASHINGTON.
SHE WORKED AS A STAFF ATTORNEY AT THE FEDERAL DEFENDER PROGRAM IN THE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF ILLINOIS REPRESENTING MORE THAN 400 INDIGENT CLIENTS ACCUSED OF FEDERAL CRIMES.
STATE PLANS TO REOPEN THE ECONOMY FURTHER ARE ON HOLD BECAUSE OF RISING COVID-19 HOSPITALIZATIONS.
STATE HEALTH OFFICIALS SAY THAT QUOTE AS LONG AS NEW HOSPITAL ADMISSIONS CONTINUE TO INCREASE, THE STATE WILL NOT ADVANCE TO THE BRIDGE PHASE AND ON TO PHASE FIVE OF THE RESTORE ILLINOIS PLAN.
WE'LL HAVE MORE IN JUST A MOMENT INCLUDING DETAILS ON TWO NEW MASS VACCINATION SITES.
HEALTH OFFICIALS ALSO REPORT MORE THAN 2400 NEW CASES OF THE CORONAVIRUS IN THE STATE.
AND 17 DEATHS.
MORE THAN 1,241,000 CASES HAVE BEEN REPORTED.
THE POSITIVITY RATE TICKED UP TO 3.4%.
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN IS EXPECTED TO UNVEIL PART OF HIS MASSIVE INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAM TOMORROW.
THE FIRST PART WILL REPORTEDLY FOCUS ON INFRASTRUCTURE AND JOBS AND THE SECOND ON CHILDCARE AND HEALTHCARE PROGRAMS.
BUT THE PRESIDENT IS FACING PUSHBACK HOW TO PAY FOR HIS SWEEPING SPENDING PLAN.
JOINING US TO TALK ABOUT THE PROPOSAL ARE CONGRESSWOMAN JAN SHAKOWSKY A DEMOCRAT FROM EVANSTON.
CONGRESSMAN RODNEY DAVIS A REPUBLICAN FROM TAYLORVILLE AND CONGRESSMAN JESUS CHUY GARCIA A DEMOCRAT FROM THE LITTLE VILLAGE NEIGHBORHOOD WELCOME ALL OF YOU BACK TO "CHICAGO TONIGHT."
CONGRESSWOMAN, REPORTED TO BE 2 AND A QUARTER TRILLION FOR ROADS, BRIDGES, PORTS AND ELEMENTS OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THE SPECIFICS OF THE PLAN?
AND WHAT ARE THE NEEDS AND THE ASKS FROM HOUSE DEMOCRATS?
>> WELL, IT'S ABOUT JOBS, IT'S ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE NEED SO BADLY TALKING ABOUT -- WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR TRANSIT.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BRIDGES.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ROADS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ACTUALLY BUILDING HOSPITALS AND REPAIRING THEM AND SCHOOLS.
IT'S ALL ABOUT THE THINGS THAT REALLY CREATE GOOD JOBS FOR THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
IT'S VERY EXCITING.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT LITERALLY MILLIONS OF JOBS AND THEY ARE WELL PAYING JOBS, HOPEFULLY UNION JOBS.
AND GREEN JOBS.
WE ARE GOING TO BE HELPING THE ENVIRONMENT.
>> CONGRESSMAN DAVIS YOU MET WITH THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE A FEW MONTHS BACK DOES THIS SOUND LIKE THE CONTOURS OF A PLAN THAT YOU WOULD SUPPORT OR REPUBLICANS WOULD SUPPORT?
>> YOU KNOW, JAN IS RIGHT.
WE AGREE WE HAVE TO REBUILD OUR CRUMBLING ROADS AND BRIDGES AND THAT IS THE MESSAGE I TOOK TO PRESIDENT BIDEN AND VICE-PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS AND BUTTIGIEG A FEW WEEKS AGO IN THE OVAL OFFICE AND WE PLEADED WITH THE PRESIDENT, PLEASE DO NOT USE THE RECONCILIATION PROCESS, PLEASE WORK WITH US ON AN INFRASTRUCTURE BILL.
IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT WILL BE THE CASE.
THAT IS UNFORTUNATE.
BECAUSE WE DO NEED TO PUT THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THIS COUNTRY AND THE STATE OF ILLINOIS BACK TO WORK.
CONTINUING TO REBUILD OUR CRUMBLING ROADS AND BRIDGES.
INFRASTRUCTURE DOES MATTER.
INFRASTRUCTURE IS BIPARTISAN.
BUT IF THE DEMOCRATS AND THE ADMINISTRATION TRY TO PUSH THROUGH A CLIMATE CHANGE GREEN NEW DEAL BILL, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GET THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL THAT WE SO MUCH NEED BECAUSE IT WILL ONLY BE A CLIMATE BILL DISGUISED WITH AN INFRASTRUCTURE TITLE.
>> CONGRESSMAN GARCIA IS THAT THE CASE?
IS THIS A GREEN NEW DEAL OR CLIMATE BILL AND WOULD IT DASH HOPES FOR BIPARTISAN BUY IN?
>> LOOK, INFRASTRUCTURE HAS BEEN CRYING OUT FOR MANY YEARS FOR AN INVESTMENT.
OUR LEADING ENGINEERS HAVE GIVEN US A C MINUS IN THIS REGARD AND TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE IS A MATTER OF RACIAL AND SOCIOECONOMIC JUSTICE FOR DECADES.
BLACK AND LATINO COMMUNITIES SUFFERED FROM SEGREGATION, GENTRIFICATION AND SEPARATED BY THINGS LIKE TRAIN TRACKS AND HIGHWAYS.
AMERICA HAS A CRUMBLING FAILING INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE NEED TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
I HAVE ENCOURAGED THE WHITE HOUSE TO GO BIG AND BOLD AND ENCOURAGED SECRETARY BUTTIGIEG AT A HEARING IN OUR COMMITTEE THAT CONGRESSMAN DAVIS AND I SERVE ON TO GO BIG.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO ADDRESS THE REAL NEEDS OF OUR ECONOMY.
IT WILL MAKE IT SUSTAINABLE.
YES, IT WILL HAVE A LOT OF GREEN FEATURES.
IT HAS TO.
WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH CLIMATE CHANGE.
AND YES, IT WILL BE A CHALLENGE TO FIGURE OUT THE REVENUES BUT I THINK WE CAN DO IT STARTING WITH DOING AWAY WITH THE TAX BREAKS THAT THE RICH GOT IN 2017.
THAT COULD BE A DOWN PAYMENT.
>> LET'S HEAR WHAT PETE BUTTIGIEG HE SAID THERE WOULD BE NO GAS OR MILEAGE TAX.
>> YOU WILL HEAR DETAILS FROM THE ADMINISTRATION IN THE COMING DAYS HOW TO PAY FOR THIS.
I WILL REITERATE THE PRESIDENT'S COMMITMENT THAT THIS PROPOSAL ALSO NOT RAISE TAXES ON ANYONE MAKING UNDER $400,000 A YEAR.
>> HOW TO PAY FOR A BIG BILL LIKE THIS.
THE PRESIDENT REPORTEDLY WILL FLOAT DOING AWAY WITH SOME OF THOSE TAX CUTS IN 2017 RAISING THAT CORPORATE INCOME TAX RATE TO 28%.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE A PART OF THIS BILL?
>> IT MAY BE A PART OF THIS BILL.
I WANT TO TELL YOU UNTIL THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILLS WERE ALWAYS BIPARTISAN.
AND I'M HOPING ALONG WITH RODNEY THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO WORK ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE.
BECAUSE EVERYBODY WANTS TO BRING THE JOBS TO THEIR COMMUNITY THAT GO WITH THIS INFRASTRUCTURE.
NOW, IN TERMS OF THE [INAUDIBLE] I WOULD WELCOME TO SAY THE RICHEST PEOPLE WHO GOT THE TAX CUTS OR EVEN SOME OF THE MILITARY BUDGET THERE'S PLACES WE COULD CUT, BUT I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING IS THAT IT'S GOING TO ACCELERATE THE ECONOMY, PUTTING ALL THESE PEOPLE TO WORK IS GOING TO BE GOOD FOR OUR ECONOMY.
IT'S UNCLEAR.
YOU SAY IT IS A $3 TRILLION PACKAGE.
HOW MUCH MONEY IS GOING TO BE GENERATED FROM THE MILLIONS OF JOBS THAT ARE CREATED?
A LOT.
>> CONGRESSMAN DAVIS SHOULD THERE BE A HIKE IN TAXES ON HIGHER INCOMES AND CORPORATE RATE TO PAY FOR THIS?
>> CHUY MENTIONED WE SERVE ON THE COMMITTEE TOGETHER I HAVE BEEN ON THE COMMITTEE SINCE I GOT TO CONGRESS AND I CAME TO DEAL WITH INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES AND IF YOU WOULD HAVE TOLD ME THAT THE DEMOCRATIC MAJORITY WANTED TO OPEN UP THE INCOME TAX CODE AT THE END OF A PANDEMIC TO PAY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT ANY OTHER PAY FORCE, TYPICAL USER FEES THAT HAVE BEEN PAYING HIGHWAY TRUST FUND FOR DECADES I COULD HAVE SAID THAT IS A FANTASY.
BUT HERE WE ARE TODAY AND THIS IS JUST A DECISION MADE BY THE WHITE HOUSE AND BY DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP TO GO BACK ON THE TAX CUTS THAT GAVE US THE HIGH ECONOMIC GROWTH THAT WE HAD BEFORE THE PANDEMIC.
AND I WILL TELL YOU THE LAST THING WE NEED TO SEE IN THIS COUNTRY IS AN INFRASTRUCTURE BILL THAT WE DESPERATELY NEED, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, RAISING TAXES ON EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN.
THE DEMOCRATS CAN SAY ALL THEY WANT IT WILL BE THE WEALTHY.
THEY WANT TO IMPLEMENT PROVISIONS THAT WE TOOK OUT THAT ONLY BENEFIT THE WEALTHY.
SOME ARE USING THAT AS A REASON TO SAY THEY ARE NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR A BILL UNLESS THEY IMPLEMENT THAT PROVISION THAT ONLY BENEFITS THE WEALTHY.
SO IT'S A REASON WHY I GET FRUSTRATED.
BECAUSE IF WE ARE GOING TO TAX OUR SMALL BUSINESSES AND C CORPS WHEN THEY ARE COMING OUT OF A PANDEMIC THAT IS GOING TO BE PASSED ON TO EVERY AMERICAN AND THAT IS NOT WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING AT THE END OF A PANDEMIC.
LET'S DO INFRASTRUCTURE BUT LET'S LET OUR SMALL BUSINESSES SURVIVE.
>> CONGRESSMAN GARCIA, RENOVATING SCHOOLS, CHILDCARE CENTERS, COMMUNITY COLLEGES DOES THAT MEAN THERE MIGHT BE FREE COMMUNITY COLLEGE OR REDUCED COMMUNITY COLLEGE COST?
>> WELL, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE IN THE MIX AND AS A MEMBER OF THE PROGRESSIVE CAUCUS, THOSE ARE ISSUES THAT ARE NEAR AND DEAR TO ME AND WE ARE ADVOCATING FOR.
THAT'S POSSIBLE.
BUT I ALSO WANT TO UNDERSCORE THAT MONEY TO REBUILD AND BUILD SCHOOLS AND INVESTMENT IN RURAL AND URBAN BROADBAND TO CLOSE THE TECHNOLOGY GAP FOR KIDS, ELECTRIC GRID REPAIR, CLEAN WATER INFRASTRUCTURE FOR DRINKING WATER AND WASTEWATER MANAGEMENT AND POSSIBLY UP TO 300 BILLION FOR HOUSING INFRASTRUCTURE IT WILL BE TOUGH TO BE AGAINST THOSE THINGS AND TELL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT THE COUNTRY DOESN'T NEED THOSE THINGS.
YOU HAVE TO GET BEYOND ACQUIESCING TO DONALD TRUMP AND CLOSING RANKS BECAUSE YOU THINK YOU HAVE A SHOT AT WINNING BACK THE SENATE AND THE MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE IN 2022 YOU HAVE TO PUT THE NATIONAL INTEREST FORWARD AND I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT IS WHAT THE REPUBLICANS ARE OPEN TO DOING LONGER.
>> I'M SURE IT WILL BE A FEROCIOUS DEBATE TOMORROW.
AND WE WILL BE JOINED LATER TO TALK GUN SAFETY AND IMMIGRATION.
THANKS TO JAN SHAKOWSKY, RODNEY DAVIS AND JESUS CHUY GARCIA.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> IT WASN'T LONG AGO WHEN STATE AND OFFICIAL OFFICIALS ANNOUNCED REOPENING PLANS AFTER SEEING A DECREASE IN COVID-19 CASES AND NOW THE PICTURE HAS CHANGED AS CASES ARE GOING UP ONCE AGAIN.
HEATHER CHERONE JOINS US WITH MORE.
HEATHER, OFFICIALS HAVE BEEN SOUNDING INCREASING ALARMS IN RECENT DAYS.
WHAT ARE THEY WORRIED ABOUT WITH THE DAYS TO COME?
>> WELL, THE FEAR IS THAT THIS IS THE START OF WHAT WOULD BE THE THIRD SURGE OF COVID-19 IN CHICAGO.
YESTERDAY WAS THE FIRST DAY THAT THE CITY RECORDED MORE THAN 400 CASES PER DAY ON A ROLLING SEVEN-DAY AVERAGE.
AND Dr. ALLISON ARWADY THE COMMISSIONER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH SAID THAT IS AN INDICATION THAT CASES ARE SPREADING AND THAT PEOPLE SHOULD BE VERY CONCERNED.
THE CITY'S TEST POSITIVITY RATE IS 4.2%.
AND SHOWS NO SIGN OF SLOWING DOWN IF IT REACHES 5% THAT IS AN INDICATION THAT THE PANDEMIC IS ONCE AGAIN OUT OF CONTROL AND SPREADING WIDELY.
>> GOING IN AN OMINOUS DIRECTION AND YOU SPOKE WITH Dr. EMILY LANDON, WHAT DID SHE TELL YOU?
>> WELL, SHE SAID IT FEELS LIKE SHE IS LIVING IN THE MOVIE GROUND-HOG DAY WHERE SHE SEES THE SAME THINGS HAPPENING OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND IS POWERLESS TO STOP IT.
BECAUSE BOTH ALL THREE OF THE CITY'S SURGES HAVE BEEN PRECEDED WITH CITY AND STATE OFFICIALS ALLOWING INDOOR DINING AND DRINKING TO RESUME AND YOU HAVE TO TAKE YOUR MASK OFF TO DO THAT WHICH ALLOWS THE VIRUS TO SPREAD.
THERE'S ALSO A RECENT STUDY FROM THE CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL AND PREVENTION THAT SHOWS THAT THAT IS AMONG THE RISKIEST THINGS PEOPLE CAN DO AND WHILE IT MIGHT NOT IMMEDIATELY CAUSE A SURGE IN CASES, IN ABOUT 40 DAYS, IT WILL WHICH IS PRECISELY WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IN CHICAGO AND SUBURBAN COOK COUNTY.
>> THIS COMES AS THE CITY ANNOUNCED TWO MASS VACCINATION SITES TELL US WHERE THEY ARE?
>> ONE WILL BE NEAR WRIGLEY FIELD.
ON THE NORTH SIDE.
AND THE OTHER WILL BE AT CHICAGO STATE UNIVERSITY ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
TOGETHER, BOTH ARE SUPPOSED TO OPEN MONDAY AND THEY WILL BE ABLE TO DO 5,000 VACCINATIONS PER DAY ONCE THEY ARE AT FULL CAPACITY.
BY COMPARISON, THE MASS VACCINATION SITE AT THE UNITED CENTER CAN DO 6,000 SHOTS A DAY THAT WOULD REPRESENT A HUGE INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF SHOTS ADMINISTERED IN CHICAGO.
>> CERTAINLY FEELS LIKE A RACE AGAINST TIME TO GET PEOPLE VACCINATED.
THANKS TO HEATHER CHERONE.
>> THANK YOU, PARIS.
>> AND YOU CAN READ HEATHER'S STORY ON WTTW.COM/NEWS.
>> AND NOW TO PHIL PONCE WITH NEW DETAILS ABOUT LONG-HAUL COVID PATIENTS.
>> PARIS A STUDY FROM NORTHWESTERN MEDICINE FOUND 85% OF SO-CALLED LONG-HAUL COVID PATIENTS FACED NEUROLOGIC SYMPTOMS EVEN AFTER RECOVERING FROM THE ILLNESS.
THE STUDY LOOKED AT 100 LONG-HAULERS NOT HOSPITALIZED FOR COVID AND HAD RELATIVELY MILD CASES BUT EXPERIENCE LINGERING ISSUES LIKE FATIGUE, BRAIN FOG AND DIZZINESS SYMPTOMS THAT IMPACTED THEIR DAILY LIFE AND THEIR COGNITIVE ABILITIES.
JOINING US ARE Dr. EDITH GRAHAM A NORTHWESTERN MEDICINE NEUROLOGIST AND COAUTHOR OF THE STUDY AND EDDIE PALACIOS A COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE BROKER FROM NAPERVILLE AND A PATIENT WHO PARTICIPATED IN THE STUDY.
AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
Dr. GRAHAM, GIVE ME A BRIEF DEFINITION WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY LONG-HAULER?
>> THE LONG-HAULERS OF COVID-19 ARE THE PATIENTS THAT THE ARE HAVING SYMPTOMS LASTING FOR LONGER THAN SIX WEEKS.
MOST PATIENTS WILL RECOVER IN THAT AMOUNT OF TIME.
WE ARE SEEING THE ONES HAVING THE NEUROLOGIC LONG-HAUL SYMPTOMS.
>> AND SOME OF THE MOST COMMON SYMPTOMS THE STUDY FOUND WERE BRAIN FOG, HEADACHE, NUMBNESS AND TINGLING AND DISORDERED TASTE OR SMELL.
WHAT IS THE POTENTIAL IMPACT ON PATIENTS' LIVES, Dr. GRAHAM?
>> THE FACT THAT TEPIDS TO IMPACT THE ABILITY TO WORK AND TO GET OUT OF THEIR HOME AT ALL.
MANY OF THESE PATIENTS ARE EXPERIENCING EXTREME FATIGUE.
ARE NOT BEING ABLE TO CONCENTRATE.
ARE UNABLE TO CARRY OUT THEIR USUAL DAILY ACTIVITIES.
>> AND EDDIE YOUR FAMILY ALL GOT COVID IN SEPTEMBER.
YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY AND THEY RECOVERED BUT YOUR CASE WAS MILD AND WHEN DID YOU FIRST START NOTICING THAT MAYBE THINGS WERE NOT QUITE RIGHT FOR YOU?
>> ABOUT A MONTH AFTER.
I STARTED SEEING THINGS FORGETTING THINGS LIKE SALT OR CONVERSATIONS I WAS HAVING.
IT WAS ALL SHORT-TERM MEMORY THAT I WAS LOSING.
>> AND BESIDES SHORT-TERM MEMORY, ANY OTHER SYMPTOMS THAT MANIFESTED?
>> EVERY JURY THAT I EVER HAD COULD FEEL, STILL DO.
I GET HEADACHES THAT WILL LAST DAYS.
YEAH, I MEAN FOGGY HEAD AT WELL.
BUT IT IS THE MEMORY LOSS.
STUTTERING BUT THAT IS GONE BUT IT WAS THE MEMORY LOSS AND THE BODY ACHES THAT ARE REALLY INTENSE.
>> YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR CAREER IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO COMMUNICATE WITH POTENTIAL CLIENTS.
A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT BRAIN FOG BECAUSE THAT IS ONE OF THE LEADING SYMPTOMS.
TELL US ABOUT THAT?
>> WELL I'VE LEARNED TO ADAPT AT THE BEGINNING I COULD NOT FOCUS.
I WOULD LOOK AT THINGS AND BE OK I HAVE TO WORK ON A PROJECT AND I HAVE BIG CLIENTS.
SO I HAD TO READJUST AND POST IT'S EVERYWHERE AND TOOK NOTES AND THE RUNNING JOKE WAS LIKE I'M THE WALKING GOOGLE AND NOW I'M THE WALKING A.O.L.
I'VE ADAPTED.
>> IS IT POSSIBLE SOME PATIENTS HAVE THE LONG-TERM EFFECTS AND MAY NOT REALIZE IT.
>> WELL, I THINK MOST PATIENTS ARE GOOD AT IDENTIFYING SUBJECTIVELY WHEN THEY DO HAVE BRAIN FOG.
SO THE PATIENTS THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT WE WERE TRYING TO QUANTIFY WHAT THAT MEANT BECAUSE OF COURSE THERE WERE CHATROOMS, ON Facebook AND IT WAS A LOT OF PATIENTS DISCUSSING THIS BUT WE WANTED TO TAKE IT TO A SCIENTIFIC JOURNAL WE WANTED TO LOOK AT COGNITIVE MEASURES.
WE HAVE PATIENTS DO IN OUR CLINIC COGNITIVE TESTING AND FOUND THEY HAD DECREASED ATTENTION AND DECREASED WORKING MEMORY.
OUR PATIENTS WHO WERE SUFFERING FROM THE LONG-HAUL EFFECTS OF COVID-19.
>> EDDIE PALACIOS, YOU WERE TESTED HOW DID THE TESTS GO?
>> NOT WELL I'VE DONE THEM TWICE AND DIDN'T DO TOO WELL AND THE WORKING MEMORY WAS FAILING.
AND IT'S WITH THE HELP OF THE GOOD DOCTORS I'VE BEEN GETTING BETTER AND BETTER.
>> WHAT HAS YOUR TREATMENT BEEN LIKE TO HELP YOU GET BETTER AND BETTER?
>> WELL, A LOT OF MEDICATION, SMART DRUGS.
TO HELP ME FOCUS.
YOU KNOW, THEY DID LOTS OF BLOOD WORK AND CHECKED EVERYTHING TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS NOTHING ELSE GOING ON.
WE'VE DONE WELL, WE'VE TREATED WE FOUND I HAD SLEEP APNEA SO THEY HELPED ME WITH THAT AS WELL.
BEING AT THE FRONT OF THIS WHOLE THING I FEEL FOR THE DOCTORS BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN AND THEY ARE TRYING EVERYTHING.
AT FIRST THE MEDICATIONS I WAS GETTING WERE FROM ALZHEIMER'S AND FINALLY FOUND A MEDICATION THAT WORKED.
AND IT SEEMS TO I CAN FUNCTION AND I CAN DO THINGS AND LIKE I SAID BEING ON THE FRONTLINE THESE GUYS ARE WORKING HARD AND TRYING TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT.
AND IT'S TRIAL AND ERROR.
IT HAS BEEN.
I'M LUCKY.
THAT THEY HAVE GIVEN ME THE ATTENTION.
>> EDDIE PALACIOS LET ME STAY WITH YOU.
I UNDERSTAND YOU ARE DOING OTHER THINGS TO HELP YOUR MIND REGAIN FOCUS.
GET OUT OF THAT FOG.
WHAT THINGS ARE YOU DOING?
>> WELL, MY MOTHER IS RETIRED HYPNOTHERAPIST AND SHE HELPED ME MOVE THE PAIN FROM MY HEAD TO MY KNEES.
AND HYPNOTHERAPY BETWEEN THEIR PARTNER AND SELF HAVE HELPED.
ACUPUNCTURE THAT ELEAVES SOME OF THE PAIN.
I'VE TRIED EVERYTHING.
TRIED DIFFERENT THINGS ON MY OWN AND CHECKING WITH THE DOCTOR WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THIS?
TRY IT, WHO KNOWS.
AND IT'S BEEN I GUESS, IN MY CASE I'VE BEEN MY OWN ADVOCATE AND PUSHED YES, I'VE GOT NORTHWESTERN ON MY SIDE BUT LOOKING AT EVERY OPTION I DON'T LIKE BEING IN THE PLACE I'M IN.
BUT I HAVE NOTICED I'VE GOTTEN BETTER AND BETTER.
LITTLE BY LITTLE.
BUT IT'S AN ADVENTURE EVERYDAY.
>> DOCTOR HOW EFFECTIVE ARE THE TREATMENTS ARE THE STRATEGIES FOR HELPING PEOPLE WITH THESE LONG-TERM EFFECTS?
WHAT THINGS ARE THERE?
>> YEAH, SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY CLINICAL TRIALS YET TO KNOW HOW EFFECTIVE THE TREATMENTS ARE.
AND WE DON'T HAVE ONE SPECIFIC CURE ALL FOR THE PATIENTS WITH LONG-HAUL SYMPTOMS MOSTLY BECAUSE A LOT OF THE SYMPTOMS DIFFER FROM PATIENT TO PATIENT.
WHILE ONE PATIENT MAY SUFFER FROM MIGRAINES ANOTHER PATIENT MAY BE SUFFERING FROM VERTIGO AND THOSE THINGS WILL BE TREATED DIFFERENTLY.
UNTIL WE KNOW MORE ABOUT THE ROOT CAUSE OF WHY THIS IS HAPPENING IN THE LONG COVID PATIENTS, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO TREAT SYMPTOMATICLY.
FOR THINGS LIKE EDDIE WAS MENTIONING LIKE FOR BRAIN FOG WE USE MEDICATIONS.
FOR MIGRAINES WE'VE USED MEDICATIONS FOR VERTIGO WE'VE USED MEDICATIONS.
WE ARE ALSO LEANING ON A LOT OF OUR COLLEAGUES AND NEUROPSYCHOLOGY AND SLEEP MEDICINE AS LONG AS REHAB PULMONARY CARDIOLOGY ALL OF THESE THINGS TO WORK ON PATIENTS AND LOOK AT THEM AS A WHOLE.
>> AND THAT IS WHERE WE HAVE TO LEAVE T THANK YOU TO Dr. EDITH GRAHAM AND EDDIE PALACIOS.
Mr. PALACIOS, GOOD LUCK TO YOU AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> A BOX BOOM IS IMPACTING BUSINESSES ACROSS THE CHICAGO AREA, FIND OUT HOW NEXT ON "CHICAGO TONIGHT."
>> OVER THE PAST YEAR, YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED YOUR RECYCLING BINS AND DUMPSTERS OVERFLOWING WITH CARDBOARD, THE PANDEMIC LED TO A SURGE IN DEMAND FOR THE PRODUCT AND ALL KINDS OF SHIPPING MATERIALS ESPECIALLY CORREGATED BOXES, THOSE ARE USED FOR E-COMMERCE ITEMS AND GOODS.
"CHICAGO TONIGHT'S" QUINN MYERS HAS MORE HOW THE BOX BOOM IS BEING FELT ACROSS THE REGION.
>> ON AN EARLY SPRING MORNING AT THIS SOUTH SIDE RECYCLING YARD, KEN DUNN IS UNLOADING A MASSIVE HAUL OF CARDBOARD AND PAPER PRODUCTS.
DUNN RUNS A RECYCLING NONPROFIT THAT SERVED THE CHICAGO AREA FOR DECADES.
>> WE STARTED BY HELPING CREWS PICK UP CANS AND BOTTLES ON VACANT LOTS HERE IN THE SOUTH SIDE PROVIDING JOBS AND MONEY FOR THEM TO PICK UP AND THEN PAY THEIR SALARY BY THE MATERIALS WE COLLECTED.
>> THE COMPANY HAS EXPANDED OVER THE YEARS TO INCLUDE ALL KINDS OF MATERIALS.
INCLUDING ONE DUNN SAYS HAS MORE THAN DOUBLED OVER THE PAST YEAR.
>> THE CARDBOARD FROM HOUSEHOLDS IT'S JUST PEOPLE ARE BUYING THESE FLAT SCREEN TV'S SINCE THEY ARE AT HOME THAT ARE FIVE FOOT AND THEY COME IN BIG CARDBOARD BOXES.
A LOT OF BOXES COMING TO HOMES.
>> THOSE TV'S AND A SURPRISINGLY LARGE NUMBER OF OTHER PRODUCTS, ARE USUALLY SHIPPED IN CORREGATED PACKAGING.
MADE UP OF LAYERS OF PAPER WITH A WAVEY FLUTE IN THE MIDDLE FOR PADDING.
THE CORREGATED PACKAGING INDUSTRY HAD A RECORD 2020 AS PEOPLE STARTED BUYING EVERYTHING FROM GROCERIES TO PLAYSTATIONS ON-LINE.
>> IT IS ESSENTIAL TO EVERYDAY LIVES IT BRINGS US FOOD FROM, TISSUE, OVER THE LAST YEAR, THE PANDEMIC PEOPLE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT TOILET PAPER IT GETS OUR TOILET PAPER TO US AND EVERYTHING IN-BETWEEN.
>> RACHEL KENYON IS SENIOR VICE-PRESIDENT OF THE FIBER BOX ASSOCIATION.
OR FBA.
A LOCAL TRADE GROUP THAT TRACKS SHIPMENTS OF CORREGATED PACKAGING NATIONWIDE.
>> THE CORREGATED INDUSTRY GROWS MODERATELY FROM YEAR TO YEAR, 1-2.5% AND WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR WITH MANY THINGS BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC WE SAW A CHANGE IN BOX PLANT SHIPMENTS.
IN MARCH OF 2020, BOX SHIPMENTS WERE UP 9% OVER THE PREVIOUS YEAR OF MARCH.
AND THAT WAS WHEN PEOPLE WERE DOING A LOT OF PANTRY STOCKING AND HOARDING OF PRODUCTS >> THE FBA TRACKED A 3.4% OVERALL INCREASE IN SHIPMENTS IN 2020 OVER 2019.
AIDED BY A SPIKE IN E-COMMERCE ACTIVITY AHEAD OF THE HOLIDAY SEASON.
THE CORRUGATED BOOM HAS BEEN ESPECIALLY TAXING FOR BOX MANUFACTURERS LIKE AKERS PACKAGING IN THE BURNSIDE NEIGHBORHOOD.
>> IT'S IMPACTED US IN A GREAT WAY FROM A REVENUE STANDPOINT BUT IT'S MADE THE BUSINESS DIFFICULT TO RUN.
>> THE FAMILY RUN COMPANY OWNS PLANTS ACROSS THE MIDWEST.
BUT SAYS IT HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE TO SCALE UP OPERATIONS TO IMMEDIATE THE FLURRY OF DEMAND.
TO ACCOMMODATE AKERS CONTINUED INVESTING IN AUTOMATION AND JUST MORE MANPOWER.
>> WE'RE USING AS MUCH OF THE CAPACITY IN OUR CENTRAL ILLINOIS AND SOUTHERN MICHIGAN PLANTS AS POSSIBLE.
WE ARE ALSO PROVIDING OVERTIME ON A DAILY AND SATURDAY BASIS.
SO WE CALL IT THROWING HOURS AT IT TO GET MORE PRODUCTION >> THE BUT COMPANY HAS HAD TROUBLE FILLING VACANT POSITIONS AND THE STRAIN OF THE PAST YEAR LED TO LONGER WAIT TIMES FOR DISTRIBUTORS WHO RECEIVE BOXES FROM MANUFACTURERS LIKE AKERS.
>> I THINK IT WILL SORT IT OUT AS PEOPLE SPEND MORE MONEY ON VACATIONS AND HOTELS AND LESS MONEY ON GOODS FOR THEIR HOMES AND FOOD AND THE INDUSTRY SPENDS MONEY ON MACHINERY AND EQUIPMENT, BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE THE BETTER PART OF THE YEAR.
WE REALLY DON'T THINK THINGS WILL CHANGE UNTIL THE FALL OR MAYBE UNTIL NEXT YEAR.
>> UNLIKE PLASTIC, CORREGATE SECOND RECYCLABLE.
THE FDA SAYS THE INDUSTRY'S RECOVERY RATE HOVERS AROUND 90%.
BACK AT THE RESOURCE CENTER LOT, KEN DUNN IS EXPECTING THE INFLUX TO CONTINUE AS RESTAURANTS AND OTHER BUSINESSES REOPEN AFTER PANDEMIC SHUTDOWNS.
AND HE WILL BE READY.
>> LOCAL SYSTEMS WITH ALL RECYCLABLES IS BETTER FOR A SUSTAINABLE PLANET AND I THINK IT WILL IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL COMMUNITIES.
>> FOR "CHICAGO TONIGHT" I'M QUINN MYERS.
>> AND THE RESOURCE CENTER SAYS THEY HAVE SEEN A SPIKE IN PLASTIC BOTTLES DURING THE PANDEMIC.
YOU CAN LEARN MORE ON OUR WEBSITE.
AND STILL TO COME ON "CHICAGO TONIGHT"... >> THIS IS NOTHING BUT PUNITIVE DESIGNED TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM VOTING.
>> HOUSE MEMBERS ARE BACK TO TALK ABOUT VOTING RESTRICTIONS IN GEORGIA AND WHAT VOTING RIGHTS MEMBERS ARE UP IN CONGRESS.
CITY COUNCIL PASSES A RESOLUTION CALLING FOR A UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME TRIAL IN CHICAGO HOW THAT COULD AFFECT RESIDENTS.
AND PRIVACY ADVOCATES ARE UP IN ARMS ABOUT PROPOSED CHANGES TO ILLINOIS' BIOMETRICS LAW THAT GOVERNS THE COLLECTION OF DATA LIKE FINGERPRINTS.
>> AN EMERGENCY MEDICAL WORKER WHO WITNESSED GEORGE FLOYD AS HE WAS BEING HELD DOWN BY MINNEAPOLIS POLICE OFFICERS SAID THE POLICE PREVENTED HER FROM PROVIDING MEDICAL ASSISTANCE TO FLOYD.
THE SECOND DAY OF DEREK CHAUVIN'S TRIAL, GENEVIEVE CLARA HANSEN WAS ASKED WHY SHE WAS UNABLE TO RENDER ASSISTANCE.
>> WHY WEREN'T YOU ABLE TO DO ANY OF THAT?
>> BECAUSE THE OFFICERS DIDN'T LET ME TO THE SCENE.
I ALSO OFFERED IN MY MEMORY, I OFFERED TO WALK THEM THROUGH IT OR TOLD THEM IF HE DOESN'T HAVE A PULSE YOU NEED TO START COMPRESSIONS AND THAT WASN'T DONE EITHER.
>> CHAUVIN PLEADED NOT GUILTY TO CHARGES OF SECOND DEGREE UNINTENTIONAL MURDER OF FLOYD.
AND CHARGED WITH SECOND DEGREE MANSLAUGHTER AND THIRD DEGREE MURDER.
>> THE ICONIC MANNY'S DELI WAS GIVING AWAY FREE FOOD TO RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF WEARING MASKS.
THE DELI GAVE AWAY THE SANDWICHES TO THE FIRST 1,000 CUSTOMERS TO COME THROUGH THE DOOR WHO WERE WEARING A MASK PROPERLY AND THAT IS COVERING THE MOUTH AND NOSE.
MANNY'S OWNER SAYS HE ORGANIZED THE GIVEAWAY TO RAISE AWARENESS TO HELP PROTECT THE DELI'S WORKERS.
>> EARL WARREN IN THE PROGRAM WE DISCUSSED THE PRESIDENT'S UP COMING INFRASTRUCTURE PROPOSAL AND WE ARE JOINED AGAIN BY JAN SHAKOWSKY AND RODNEY DAVIS AND JESUS CHUY GARCIA.
THE A.C.L.U.
ANNOUNCED IT'S SUING GEORGIA OVER RESTRICTIONS THEY SIGNED INTO LAW.
THE U.S. HOUSE PASSED HR1 THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT AND IT FACES AN UNCERTAIN FUTURE IN THE SENATE.
AND THIS IS A BILL THAT WOULD EXPAND ACCESS TO VOTING.
WHAT ARE THE PROSPECTS?
>> WE ARE DETERMINED AND SO IS CHUCK SCHUMER, THE HEAD OF THE SENATE NOW THAT IT'S DEMOCRATIC, THAT THIS BILL NEEDS TO PASS.
HE SAID FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION.
WE PASSED IT IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ALREADY.
AND WE HAVE SEEN OVER 200 VOTER SUPPRESSION BILLS BEING BROUGHT UP ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
BECAUSE THE REPUBLICANS ESPECIALLY LOOK AT GEORGIA, REALLY DIDN'T LIKE LOSING.
HOW DARE THEY LOSE BOTH SEATS IN THE SENATE.
AND SO I DID HEAR GOOD NEWS THAT THEY DROPPED THE -- THEY WERE GOING TO CUT SUNDAY VOTING BECAUSE MANY CHURCHES HAVE SOULS TO THE POLES AND THEY WANTED TO PREVENT THAT.
THAT'S BACK IN.
BUT IN GEORGIA, YOU STILL CAN'T BRING A GLASS OF WATER TO SOMEBODY WAITING IN LINE THAT MAY NEED IT.
AND YOU KNOW THESE ARE OUTRAGEOUS WAYS TO SUE PRESS THE VOTE AND SOME HAVE CALLED IT JIM CROW THE NEW JIM CROW.
>> CONGRESSMAN DAVIS IS THAT HOW YOU WOULD CHARACTERIZE THE PACKAGE THAT PASSED IN GEORGIA, PRESIDENT BIDEN CALLED IT QUOTE SICK AND YOU HEAR CONGRESSWOMAN SHAKOWSKY CALLING IT JIM CROW.
>> THIS IS TYPICAL GASLIGHTING FROM THE DEMOCRATIC COLLEAGUES AND THE PRESIDENT.
READ THE BILL.
NOBODY IS TAKING AWAY FOOD AND WATER FROM ANYONE WAITING IN LINE IN GEORGIA.
WHAT THEY ARE SAYING IS I CAN'T PUT A STICKER ON A BOTTLE AND HAVE IT WITHIN 125 FEET OF THE POLLING PLACE.
THAT IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE HERE IN ILLINOIS.
WE'RE NOT -- THE REPUBLICANS WERE TRYING TO DO IN GEORGIA IS REDUCE THE WAIT TIME.
SO THAT PEOPLE DIDN'T HAVE TO WAIT IN LINES AND YOU LOOK BACK AT THE ELECTIONS IT WAS AREAS IN GEORGIA RUN BY DEMOCRAT ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT HAD THE LONG LINES.
SO I WOULD SAY LET'S LOOK AT THE FACTS BEFORE WE ACTUALLY TRY AND CREATE NEW REALITIES.
AND THAT IS THE SAME THING I WOULD SAY WHEN ANYONE CALLS HR1 A VOTING RIGHTS BILL.
THAT BILL IS AN ENRICH YOUR OWN CAMPAIGN COFFERS BILL.
EVERY PERSON ON THIS INTERVIEW COULD HAVE BEEN ELIGIBLE FOR 7.2 MILLION PUBLIC DOLLARS COMING INTO OUR CAMPAIGNS AT A TIME WHEN WE SAW HISTORIC VOTER TURNOUT ACROSS ALL DEMOGRAPHICS.
VOTERS WAS IN PLACE, SERIOUSLY, EVERYBODY WHO WANTED THAT SUPPRESSION TO WORK FAILED MISERABLELY.
>> A LOT OF CRITICS WOULD SAY THE LONG LINES ARE BECAUSE POLLING PLACES CLOSED DOWN IN THE MORE URBAN AREAS.
>> THAT IS NOT TRUE IN ATLANTA THAT IS NOT TRUE.
>> I WANT TO MOVE ON TO THE ISSUE OF IMMIGRATION.
THE NUMBER OF MIGRANT CHILDREN BORDER FACILITIES IS AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL.
HERE IS WHAT PRESIDENT BIDEN SPOKESWOMAN JEN PSAKI SAID.
>> WHAT WE'RE WORKING TO DO IS PUT IN PLACE STEPS AND ACTIONS TO HELP ADDRESS THE SITUATION AT THE BORDER INCLUDING, OF COURSE, EXPEDITING PROCESSING AND OPENING UP ADDITIONAL SHELTERS.
>> CONGRESSMAN GARCIA IS THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION MOVING FAST ENOUGH TO HUMANELY DEAL WITH THE INFLUX?
>> I THINK THEY ARE DOING THE BEST THEY K EVERYONE AGREES THAT OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM IS BROKEN.
PRESIDENT TRUMP LEFT IT IN SHAMBLES AND IT WILL TAKE TIME TO REBUILD.
PRESIDENT TRUMP'S POLICIES OF HATE, FEAR AND CHILD SEPARATION AND INEFFECTIVE BORDER WALL DID NOT WORK AND MADE THINGS WORSE.
I THINK THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION IS TRYING TO DO THINGS RIGHT.
THEY ARE TRYING TO REESTABLISH AN ASYLUM SYSTEM THAT GIVES PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THEIR CASE.
THEY ARE DEALING WITH CHILDREN WHO HAVE BEEN SEPARATED OR WHO HAVE PARENTS HERE IN THE U.S. AND REPUBLICANS FROM KEVIN McCARTHY TO TED CRUZ ARE TRYING TO WEAPONIZE THE ISSUE AT THE BORDER BY SAYING THAT THE SAME THINGS THAT HAPPENED UNDER TRUMP ARE HAPPENING UNDER THIS ADMINISTRATION AND THAT IS FALSE AND DOESN'T HOLD WATER.
THE SITUATION WAS PREDICTABLE THAT ANYTIME THAT ANY PRESIDENT REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT SUCCEEDING DONALD TRUMP WAS GOING TO BE IN THE WHITE HOUSE THAT THIS WAS A BUILDUP OF MANY DECADES OF OUR FOREIGN POLICY OF OUR CODDLING TO BAD LEADERS FROM MILITARY TYPES AND REGIMES IN CENTRAL AMERICA WHO VIOLATE HUMAN RIGHTS WHO ARE FORCING PEOPLE TO COME HERE.
WE NEED TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE.
AND HOLD THE POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC ELITE RESPONSIBLE IN CENTRAL AMERICA.
WE CAN DO IT THROUGH GOOD FOREIGN POLICY.
THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION IS MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
I'M AFRAID THE INVESTMENT IS TOO PUNY, A 4 BILLION INITIATIVE BUT IT IS A START.
PEOPLE HERE FROM CENTRAL AMERICA EACH YEAR SEND 23 BILLION BACK HOME THEY ARE HELPING OUR ECONOMY AND HELPING TO SUSTAIN THE ECONOMIES IN CENTRAL AMERICA BUT WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A POLICY THAT GETS AT THE ROOT OF WHY PEOPLE ARE FLEEING THOSE COUNTRIES.
>> WE HAVE A MINUTE LEFT TO THE ISSUE OF GUNS.
CONGRESSWOMAN SHAKOWSKY WE KNOW ABOUT THE MASS SHOOTINGS AND CHICAGO IS SEEING HIGHER HOMICIDE RATE.
WHERE ARE HOUSE LEADERS ON GUN LEGISLATION?
>> WELL, IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES WE PASSED TWO BILLS 90% OF AMERICANS BELIEVE THERE HAS TO BE UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECKS AND THERE OUGHT TO BE A LONGER PERIOD TO TRY AND ASSERT THAT SOMEONE CAN HAVE A GUN.
THOSE ARE NOW IN THE SENATE.
BOTH WERE PASSED WITH BIPARTISAN SUPPORT.
BUT ILLINOIS HAS KIND OF PROOF THAT WE NEED TO HAVE NATIONAL GUN LEGISLATION BECAUSE WE HAVE GOOD LEGISLATION IN ILLINOIS.
BUT YOU CAN GO ACROSS THE BORDER AND OPEN UP THE TRUNK OF YOUR CAR IN INDIANA AND LOAD IT UP WITH GUNS AND BRING IT BACK ACROSS THE BORDER.
IT IS ABOUT LIMITING THE SIZE OF THE NUMBER OF GUNS.
AND WE CAN DO THAT AND EVERYONE WANTS THAT.
>> CONGRESSMAN DAVIS, THE BILLS OVER IN THE SENATE THIS ISSUE GETS MEYERED IN GRIDLOCK ARE THERE BIPARTISAN GUN SOLUTIONS THAT YOU SEE?
>> WE PASSED BIPARTISAN SOLUTIONS TO FIX LOOPHOLES IN THE NATIONAL INSTANT CRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECK SYSTEM AND I URGE EVERYONE YOU WANT TO YOU HAD WHAT IT TAKES TO PURCHASE A FIREARM IN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS COME WITH ME COME TO THE GUNSHOP HERE AND THE FIRING RANGE I'VE DONE THAT WITH MY CONSTITUENTS.
WHO THIS IS THEIR MAJOR ISSUE AND THEY'VE UNDERSTOOD THAT YOU CANNOT JUST WALK INTO A GUN STORE AND LAY DOWN CASH AND WALKOUT WITH EVERYTHING YOU WANT.
THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS IN PLACE IN HERE AND OTHER STATES.
I DISAGREE WITH JAN ON THIS I AM A VICTIM OF GUN VIOLENCE HAVING TO DODGE BULLETS ON A BASEBALL FIELD IN VIRGINIA A FEW YEARS AGO BECAUSE SOMEBODY DIDN'T LIKE REPUBLICANS.
I GET IT WE OUGHT TO DO MORE BUT LET'S GET TO THE ROOT CAUSE OF VIOLENCE AND WE DISAGREE ON THIS ISSUE AND I DISAGREE WITH CHUY WHO IS HAPPENING WITH THE BORDER IT IS PRESIDENT BIDEN'S ISSUE.
MAYBE MY DISAGREEMENT IS THE REASON WHY I'M NOT GETTING MY BID TO JOIN THE PROGRESSIVE CAUCUS WITH THOSE TWO.
>> WE ARE GLAD YOU JOINED THE "CHICAGO TONIGHT" CAUCUS AND WE ARE OUT OF TIME.
THANKS TO JAN SHAKOWSKY, RODNEY DAVIS AND JESUS CHUY GARCIA.
>> THE CONCEPT OF UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME MAY BE COMING TO CHICAGO ON A TRIAL BASIS.
LAST WEEK, A RESOLUTION CALLING FOR THE CITY TO USE DOLLARS FROM FEDERAL RELIEF FUNDS FOR A BASIC INCOME PILOT PROGRAM PASSED CITY COUNCIL.
SOME ORGANIZATIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN TESTING OUT THE IDEA WITH CHICAGO RESIDENTS PROVIDING CASH FOR PEOPLE TO COVER EVERYTHING FROM RENT TO STARTING SMALL BUSINESSES.
HOWEVER THERE ARE SOME OUT THERE WHO ARE SKEPTICAL OF A POSSIBLE CITYWIDE PROGRAM AND INSTEAD ARE LOOKING TOWARD BUILDING UP EXISTING SOCIAL SERVICES.
JOINING US WITH MORE ARE BRUCE MEYER, THE McCORMICK FOUNDATION PROFESSOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO HARRIS SCHOOL OF PUBLIC POLICY WHERE HE STUDIES POVERTY AND OTHER ISSUES.
EBONY SCOTT, PARTNERSHIP DIRECTOR WITH THE FAMILY INDEPENDENCE INITIATIVE AND RICHARD WALLACE, THE FOUNDER AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF EQUITY AND TRANSFORMATION.
WELCOME ALL OF YOU TO "CHICAGO TONIGHT."
TO EBONY SCOTT, FIRST OF ALL, EXPLAIN THE CONCEPT OF UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME TO US AND HOW IT WOULD WORK IN THE CITY OF CHICAGO?
>> SURE.
GLAD TO BE HERE AGAIN WITH YOU.
THE CONCEPT OF BASIC INCOME GUARANTEED INCOME, IS SIMPLE.
IT IS A SYSTEM IN WHICH THE GOVERNMENT OR ANOTHER ENTITY PROVIDES A RECURRING PAYMENT TO INDIVIDUALS OR FAMILIES.
>> AND YOU HAVE RUN A PROGRAM WITH A SELECT FEW PARTICIPANTS HERE IN CHICAGO FOR A COUPLE YEARS NOW.
WHAT HAVE THE RESULTS BEEN?
>> THE RESULTS HAVE MIRRORED WHAT YOU SEE ACROSS THE COUNTRY WHEN IT COMES TO DIRECT INVESTMENT OR CASH TRANSFER PROGRAMS.
WE HAVE SEEN THE MYTH THAT CASH DISEN SENT ADVISES WORK.
OUR FAMILIES WE HAVE ENROLLED 500 IN CHICAGO OUR DATA MIRRORS THAT THOSE FAMILIES ARE DOING MORE WORK BECAUSE THEY NOW HAVE THE MEANS TO START A SMALL BUSINESS, LAUNCH A SIDE HUSTLE OR TAKE ON A PART-TIME JOB TO SAVE.
WE ALSO SEE INCREASES IN INCOME AND SAVINGS.
AND THEN WE HAVE BEEN TRACKING THE SPILLOVER EFFECTS OF SOCIAL CAPITAL WHEN YOU INVEST CASH INTO FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS, IT ENABLES THEM TO BE A BETTER STRONGER RESOURCE IN THE COMMUNITIES THEY ARE A PART OF.
>> BRUCE MEYER YOU DON'T BELIEVE UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME IS THE BEST APPROACH TO TACKLING POVERTY.
HOW COME?
>> IF YOU MAKE THE BENEFITS HIGH ENOUGH TO HELP THOSE THAT ARE REALLY NEEDY, IT'S JUST PROHIBITIVELY EXPENSIVE AND THERE IS A LOT OF EVIDENCE THAT PROVIDING UNCONDITIONABLE CASH TRANSFERS TO PEOPLE DOES DISCOURAGE WORK.
WHEN WE MOVE FROM A UNCONDITIONABLE WELFARE SYSTEM TO ONE THAT ENCOURAGED WORK AND PROVIDED BENEFITS TO THOSE WHO WORKED, WE MOVED FROM 45% OF LOW EDUCATED, SINGLE MOTHERS WORKING TO 75%.
OVER SHORT PERIOD OF YEARS IN THE 90s.
>> SO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING YOU WOULD RATHER SEE MORE FUNDS TO BOLSTER SOCIAL PROGRAMS?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
MORE MONEY TO HUMAN SERVICES AND EMPLOYMENT SECURITY.
I THINK THE MONEY WOULD BE BETTER SPENT THERE MORE TARGETED TO THOSE WHO REALLY NEED IT.
>> RICHARD, YOU STARTED A UBI, UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME PILOT ON THE WEST SIDE AND TARGETING A SPECIFIC POPULATION.
TELL US ABOUT YOUR PROGRAM AND WHO BENEFITS?
>> YES.
RICHARD WALLACE HERE.
OUR PROGRAM WEST GARFIELD PARK FUTURES FUND FOCUSES ON SYSTEM IMPACTED FORMERLY INCARCERATED PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THE STUDY FOCUSES ON LOOKING AT INCOME VOLATILITY, SIGH LOGICAL WELLNESS AND RECIDIVISM RATES.
>> AND THIS IS PRIVATE MONEY THAT IS GOING AND TELL US HOW MUCH CASH THAT YOU ARE ARE PARTICIPANTS GET?
>> OUR PARTICIPANTS WILL RECEIVE $500 A MONTH.
FOR 18 MONTHS.
DURING THIS STUDY.
>> AND WHAT HAVE YOU SEEN?
>> WE HAVE NOT LAUNCHED OUR STUDY OFFICIALLY YET.
>> YOU HAVE NOT DONE IT YET.
>> WE'LL LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE SEE.
THE SEED PROJECT IN STOCKTON WHICH IS SIMILAR TO OURS.
>> AND EBONY YOUR PROJECT HAS BEEN AROUND WHAT ABOUT THE CRITICISM THAT IT DISCOURAGES WORK AND THE MONEY WOULD BE BETTER SPENT ON SOCIAL WELFARE PROGRAMS?
>> YES, I JUST DON'T BELIEVE THAT TO BE TRUE.
THE UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA STUDIED THE ALASKA PERMANENT FUND WHICH LOOKED AT THE IMPACT OF WORK WITH RECIPIENTS THERE AND THEY SAW AN INCREASE OF WORK AMONGST PEOPLE I STRONGLY DISAGREE THAT IT'S PROHIBITIVELY EXPENSIVE.
CHICAGO ALLOCATES 1.42 BILLION TO COMMUNITY SERVICES YET WE CONTINUE TO SEE POVERTY RATES RISE AND HOUSING INSTABILITY IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE TO CONTINUE TO NOT INVEST DIRECTLY IN PEOPLE.
>> BRUCE, BROUGHT UP THE COST TO CITY GOVERNMENT.
SAY THE CITY INSTITUTED A UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME PROGRAM FOR ALL LOW INCOME RESIDENTS WHO DO YOU THINK IT WOULD COST TAXPAYERS?
>> IT'S HARD TO PREDICT BECAUSE IT DEPENDS ON THE AMOUNT AND THE DECADE DANCE OF THE PAYMENTS.
WHAT I CAN TELL YOU WHEN YOU DO A SMART AND TARGETED DISTRIBUTION CAN YOU BRING DOWN THE OVERALL COST OF SUPPORTING COMMUNITIES.
I THINK THE WAY IN WHICH COOK COUNTY ROLLED OUT THE CASH ASSISTANCE PROGRAM IS A GREAT EXAMPLE.
THEY LOOKED AT FOLKS WHO PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC HAD ONE BEEN LIVING IN UNDER INVESTED COMMUNITIES AND WHO ARE ALREADY LIVING AT 150-200% OF THE POVERTY LINE.
NO ONE IS SUGGESTING THAT THESE PAYMENTS GO OUT BLINDLY TO EVERYONE.
BUT THE REALITY IS YOU HAVE A SET OF COMMUNITIES WHERE WE'VE POURED BILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO THEM ANNUALLY, IN LITTLE HAS CHANGED IN THE POSITIVE DIRECTION AND THERE IS A MOUNTAIN OF EVIDENCE.
THE OTHER IMPACT WE CONTINUE TO SEE ARE THE BENEFITS TO MENTAL HEALTH.
POVERTY IS TOXIC.
IT CAUSES TRAUMA.
THOSE ARE FACTS.
AND THE BEST WAY TO LIFT PEOPLE OUT OF THAT, IS TO CURE THE POVERTY WHICH IS AN ABSENCE OF CASH.
>> BRUCE WHAT ABOUT THAT DIRECT PAYMENTS COULD HAVE A STIMULATIVE IMPACT AND SOME OF THE WELFARE PROGRAMS ARE BLOATED WITHOUT A LOT OF RESULTS WHAT ABOUT THAT ARGUMENT?
>> WELL, EBONY AND I MAY AGREE MORE THAN WAS SUGGESTED IN THAT SHE TALKED ABOUT TARGETING AND NOT GIVING THE MONEY BLINDLY TO EVERYONE.
BUT THE ESSENCE OF THE UBI IS TO GIVE MONEY TO EVERYONE.
THAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH IT.
NOT TARGETED TO THOSE THAT ARE REALLY NEEDY.
AND IF YOU DO TARGET IT TO THOSE THAT ARE DISABLED, THOSE THAT ARE ELDERLY AND DON'T HAVE SAVINGS AND A PENSION, THOSE SINGLE MOTHERS WHO CAN'T WORK, THEN THAT IS GOOD.
BUT THAT'S NOT THE ESSENCE OF THE UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME WHICH IS TO GIVE MONEY TO EVERYONE.
>> IT'S IMPORTANT TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN BASIC INCOME TARGETED AND UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME.
A CRITICISM CAME FROM CITY COUNCIL'S BLACK CAUCUS THAT THE CITY SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON REPARATIONS FIRST HERE IS WHAT JASON ERVIN SAID.
>> UNTIL WE DEAL WITH THE ISSUE OF REPARATIONS IN THE CITY OF CHICAGO THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL WE CAN SUPPORT DIRECT PAYMENTS TO ANYBODY OTHER THAN THE AMERICAN DES SENDENTS OF SLAVES IN THE CITY OF CHICAGO.
THIS IS A SLAP OF THE FACE.
>> RICHARD WALLACE WHAT ABOUT THAT?
CAN BASIC INCOME PROGRAM COEXIST WITH A REPARATIONS PROGRAM OR SHOULD REPARATIONS BE CONSIDERED FIRST?
>> I THINK WE HAVE TO LEARN TO WALK AND CHEW GUM AT THE SAME TIME, RIGHT?
WE HAVE A REAL ISSUE IN THE CITY OF CHICAGO WHERE WE HAVE 81% OF YOUNG BLACK MEN 17-24 UNEMPLOYED IN WEST GARFIELD PARK.
BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IS TWICE OF WHITE WORKERS FOR DECADES.
AND SO GUARANTEED INCOME IS A WAY TO SAY IF YOU MAKE X AMOUNT OF MONEY OR FALL WITHIN X DEMOGRAPHIC YOU WILL RECEIVE RELIEF AND I WAS LISTENING TO OTHER CONVERSATIONS RELATING TO ACCESS OF JOBS WHEN AND WHERE HAS THIS EXISTED?
WE HAVE THE HIGHEST RACIAL WEALTH GAPS IN THE NATION AND THE HIGHEST BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT RATES IN THE NATION AND ONE OF THE UNIQUE EXPAND COMPONENTS OF THE SOCIAL CONTRACT YOU WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THE ECONOMY IN ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
WE FOCUS ON THE INFORMAL ECONOMY.
>> ALL RIGHT.
THERE IS A LOT TO TALK B IT IS A BIG SUBJECT.
WE'RE OUT OF TIME.
A LOT TO TALK ABOUT AND THANKS TO BRUCE MEYER, EBONY SCOTT AND RICHARD WALLACE.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, PARIS.
>> UP NEXT, YOUR FACE, YOUR ICE YOUR FINGERS WHO Facebook AND OTHER TECH COMPANIES WANT TO DO WITH YOUR BIOMETRIC INFORMATION.
FIRST, WE LOOK AT THE WEATHER.
A "NEW YORK TIMES" TECH COLUMNIST CALLS THE QUOTE THE BEST LAW YOU HAVE NEVER HEARD OF TALKING ABOUT ILLINOIS' BIOMETRIC PRIVACY ACT GIVING RESIDENTS PROTECTIONS AGAINST COMPANIES THAT WANT TO GATHER THEIR BIOMETRIC INFORMATION, FACE SCANS AND FINGERPRINTS.
Facebook SETTLED A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT FOR VIOLATING THE STATE LAW AND SEVERAL BILLS IN THE ILLINOIS ASSEMBLY AIM TO STRIP AWAY SOME OF THOSE PROTECTIONS.
AND JOINING US TO TALK ABOUT IT ARE KRISTIAN HAMMOND, COMPUTER SCIENCE PROFESSOR AT NORTHWESTERN UNIVERSITY, AND PETER HANNA, A LEGAL ADVISER ON PRIVACY AND TECHNOLOGY FOR THE A.C.L.U.
OF ILLINOIS.
GENTLEMEN LET'S GET INTO IT.
KRISTIAN HAMMOND, WHAT EXACTLY IS BIOMETRIC INFORMATION?
>> WELL, IT'S DATA THAT YOU CAN GRAB BY TAKING IMAGES OF YOUR FACE, IMPRINTS OF YOUR FINGERS THAT CAN BE USED TO IDENTIFY YOU.
>> AND PETER, THE ILLINOIS LAW THAT WE REFERRED TO IT'S BEEN REFERRED TO AS THE GOLD STANDARD ONE OF THE FIRST LAWS TO PROTECT COMPANIES FROM TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND ABUSING THAT INFORMATION.
EXPLAIN WHAT THE LAW DOES?
>> SO IT IS SIMPLE BUT EFFECTIVE LAW AND SAYS IF A COMPANY WANTS TO COLLECT THE BIOMETRIC INFORMATION THERE'S FIVE CATEGORIES, EYE SCAN, VOICEPRINT AND FACIAL GEE ONLITY, FINGERPRINT THE COMPANY WANTS TO GET THAT INFORMATION AND COLLECT IT THEY HAVE TO GET YOUR CONSENT IN WRITING BEFORE THEY DO SO AND IF THEY DO THAT THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW.
>> KRISTIAN HAMMOND WHAT IS THE PRACTICAL USE OF THIS INFORMATION FOR COMPANIES?
>> WELL, I MEAN, THE BASIC NOTION IS THAT IT IS AS PETER SAID IT'S THINGS ABOUT YOURSELF THAT YOU CANNOT CHANGE.
THAT MEANS YOU HAVE UNIQUE IDENTIFIERS THAT YOU WANDER THROUGH THE WORLD WITH.
AND IF YOU ARE ENCOUNTERING A SORT OF A DOOR THAT REQUIRES FINGERPRINTS THEN YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO WILL BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH THE DOOR.
FACIAL RECOGNITION, YOU CAN BE IDENTIFIED USING AN IMAGE OF YOUR FACE AND IN FACT AN IMAGE OF SOMEONE ELSE CAN BE IS USED TO USUALLY GO AGAINST LARGE SCALE FACIAL RECOGNITION SYSTEMS TO TRY AND IDENTIFY WHO IS IN THE IMAGE THAT YOU'RE PRESENTING TO THE SYSTEM.
>> THIS HAS SECURITY USES, USES FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT BUT PETER, THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT COMPANIES THAT ABUSE THIS INFORMATION OR SELL THIS INFORMATION BECAUSE IT'S WORTH A LOT.
THERE HAVE BEEN HUNDREDS OF CLASS ACTION LAWSUITS FILED IN ILLINOIS FOR COMPANIES VIOLATING THE ILLINOIS BIOMETRIC LAW AND NOW BILLS IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY TO WATER DOWN SOME PROTECTIONS LIKE GETTING CONSENT.
A BILL SAYING A COMPANY NO LONGER WOULD HAVE TO GET CONSENT.
ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT SOME OF THE EFFORTS?
>> I'M IMMENSELY CONCERNED A.C.L.U.
IS CONCERNED THESE ARE NOT BILLS THAT WOULD WATER DOWN.
THEY WOULD ABSOLUTELY GUT IT AND DESTROY IT.
AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE BILLS IS A COORDINATED EFFORT BY BIG BUSINESS TO STRIP ILLINOISANS OF THE SIMPLE PROTECTIONS FOR THE MOST SENSITIVE INFORMATION THAT YOU COULD HAVE, INFORMATION YOUR BIOMETRIC IDENTIFIERS.
>> KRISTIAN HAMMOND ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT THAT OR IS THE LAW TOO ONEROUS SMALL BUSINESSES IT'S TOO ONEROUS?
>> WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO ON THE COLLECTION SIDE I BELIEVE THE CONSENT IS CRUCIAL.
BUT I THINK WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT WE GET A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED ABOUT WELL, WHAT WE'VE GOT TO BE THINKING ABOUT REGULATING.
IT'S NOT THE TECHNOLOGY WE NEED TO REGULATE IT'S THE UTILIZATION OF THE TEMPERATURE HOW AND WHY IS IT GOING TO BE USED.
AND RATHER THAN THINKING OF IT AS JUST BIOMETRIC DATA OR INFORMATION THINK ABOUT IT AS WHAT ARE THE FUNCTIONAL ROLES THAT THE MODELS THAT ARE BUILT WILL PLAY IN THE WORLD?
FOR ME, IF I WERE TO VANISH TOMORROW, I WOULD ACTUALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT I COULD BE IDENTIFIED IN VIDEO FOOTAGE FROM ALL AROUND THE CITY.
I WOULD ONE OF MY CHILDREN WERE TO VANISH, I WOULD ABSOLUTELY WANT THAT.
BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT IT TO BE THE CASE THAT IF I GO INTO A POLITICAL MEETING, IF I GO INTO A BAR, IF I AM AS I'M WANDERING THROUGH THE WORLD I DON'T WANT TO BE TRACKED.
AND THINKING OF THOSE AS TWO DIFFERENT FUNCTIONALITIES IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF US AS WE APPROACH THIS WORLD OF TECHNOLOGY.
>> AS YOU SAID THIS DATA BILLIONS OF IMAGES FOR PEOPLE AND IT'S SO LUCRATIVE FOR Facebook AND CLEAR VIEW AI.
EXPLAIN WHAT THAT IS ABOUT AND WHAT THAT COMPANY DOES.
>> CLEAR VIEW AI BUILT ITS BUSINESS MODEL AND TROLLING THE INTERNET LOOKING FOR THE PUBLIC FACING PROFILE PHOTOS 0 ON SOCIAL MEDIAN CONNECTING THAT TO A NAME AND EXTRACTING THE FACIAL GEE ONLY GEOMETRY.
THE A.C.L.U.
FILED THAT PROCESS AND THAT LAWSUIT RAIN CLEAR VIEW A AVMENT OUT OF ILLINOIS.
WHAT WE HAVE IS NOT JUST A SIMPLE LAW AND A LAW THAT STRIKES THE BALANCE BETWEEN COMMERCIAL INTERESTS OUR PRIVACY INTERESTS.
WE HAVE A LAW THAT PROTECTS US AGAINST THE SORT OF UNFETTERED DATA GATHERING THAT COMPANIES HAVE BECOME ACCUSTOMED TO IN THE COUNTRY.
WE HAVE TO FOLLOW WHERE THE EFFORTS GO.
OUR THANKS TO KRISTIAN HAMMOND AND PETER HANNA.
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