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Live from the United Center as a mass vaccination site opens. Local members of Congress discuss the stimulus bill and more. The governor considers legislation that would end predatory lending.
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March 9, 2021 - Full Show
3/9/2021 | 56m 46sVideo has Closed Captions
Live from the United Center as a mass vaccination site opens. Local members of Congress discuss the stimulus bill and more. The governor considers legislation that would end predatory lending.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship[♪♪♪] >> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO "CHICAGO TONIGHT."
I'M BRANDIS FRIEDMAN.
>> I'M PARIS SCHUTZ.
ON THE SHOW TONIGHT... >> WE WILL BE ABLE TO START GETTING PAYMENTS OUT THIS MONTH.
>> ILLINOIS CONGRESS MEMBERS BREAKDOWN WHAT IS IN THE NEARLY $2 TRILLION STIMULUS BILL EXPECTED TO BE SIGNED BY PRESIDENT BIDEN THIS WEEK.
>> THE LARGEST MASS VACCINATION SITE BY A MILE.
>> CONFUSION OVER WHO CAN GET A VACCINE AND WHEN AT THE JEST OPENED UNITED CENTER VACCINATION SITE WE HAVE A LIVE REPORT.
>> FULLY VACCINATEDDED PEOPLE CAN VISIT WITH OTHER FULLY VACCINATED PEOPLE.
>> THE CDC ANNOUNCES NEW COVID GUIDELINES FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN VACCINATED.
INFECTIOUS DISEASE DOCTOR JOINS US TO EXPLAIN.
>> I COULDN'T FIND A WAY OUT OF THE HOLE.
>> LEGISLATION AWAITING THE GOVERNOR'S APPROVAL COULD END THE PAYDAY LOAN INDUSTRY IN ILLINOIS.
BUT COULD IT HAVE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES?
>> SOME RESEARCH SHOWS AN INCREASE IN ANTI-ASIAN HATE CRIMES IN ILLINOIS.
>> AND THE TOLLWAY GOES I PASS ONLY BUT DOES A CASHLESS SOCIETY LEAVE SOME PEOPLE OUT.
FIRST, SOME OF TODAY'S TOP STORIES.
THREE JURORS HAVE BEEN SEATED TODAY IN THE MURDER TRIAL FOR THE POLICE OFFICER ACCUSED OF KILLING GEORGE FLOYD.
THE PROCESS IS EXPECTED TO TAKE WEEKS AS ATTORNEYS WORK TO FIND IMPARTIAL JURORS.
THE FIRST JUROR TO BE DISMISSED TODAY WROTE ON HER QUESTIONNAIRE SHE WANTED TO BE ON THE JURY TO GIVE HER OPINION OF THE UNJUST DEATH OF GEORGE FLOYD.
FORMER MINNEAPOLIS POLICE OFFICER DEREK CHAUVIN SEEN HERE ON THE RIGHT, IS FACING SECOND FREE AND MANSLAUGHTER CHARGES FOR THE DEATH OF FLOYD LAST SUMMER AFTER VIDEO CIRCULATED AROUND THE WORLD OF CHAUVIN PRESSING HIS KNEE INTO FLOYD'S NECK UNTIL HE DIED.
OPENING STATEMENTS ARE NOT EXPECTED TO BEGIN UNTIL THE END OF THE MONTH.
>> ILLINOIS PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIALS SAY 1500 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH THE CORONAVIRUS SINCE YESTERDAY AND 16 HAVE DIED.
TIES MEANS THE STATE PASSED 1.2 MILLION TOTAL CASES SINCE THE PANDEMIC BEGAN A YEAR AGO AND 27081 PEOPLE HAVE DIED.
THE CHICAGO DEPARTMENT PUBLIC HEALTH, TEXAS AND NEB MOVED BACK INTO THE ORANGE TIER MEANING TRAVELERS WOULD NEED TO QUARANTINE FOR 10 DAYS OR HAVE A NEGATIVE COVID TEST 72 HOURS BEFORE ARRIVING IN THE CITY.
THERE ARE 24 STATES IN THE OFTEN ZONE BUT NINE OTHER STATES MOVED INTO THE YELLOW ZONE MEANING THEIR CASE LEVELS ARE LOW ENOUGH THAT NO QUARANTINE OR NEGATIVE TEST IS REQUIRED WHILE TRAVELING TO CHICAGO.
THERE ARE 26 STATES IN THE YELLOW ZONE PLUS PUERTO RICO.
1-5 ILLINOIS RESIDENTS RECEIVED AT LEAST THE FIRST DOSE OF THE CORONAVIRUS VACCINE THOUSANDS MORE WILL REACH THAT POINT OVER THE COMING WEEKS AT THEIR DOCTOR'S OFFICE, PHARMACY AND TODAY AT THE UNITED CENTER.
THE FEDERALLY RUN SITE OFFICIALLY OPENED THIS MORNING TO DELIGHT AND CONFUSION.
AMANDA VINICKY JOINS US OUTSIDE THE UNITED CENTER.
HOW IS IT GOING THERE?
>> BRANDIS, SOME 6,000 PEOPLE ARE SET TO GET THE PFIZER VACCINE HERE AT THE UNITED CENTER EVERYDAY FOR THE NEXT SIX WEEKS.
IF YOU ARE TRYING TO GET ONE OF THE APPOINTMENTS OR YOU WERE ABLE TO SNAG ONE, THERE IS GOOD REASON TO BE CONFUSED DIGNITARIES GOT THEIR NUMBERS A BIT MUDDLED WITH ONE OFFICIAL SAYING 110,000 APPOINTMENTS HAD BEEN BOOKED AND LATER CLARIFICATION FROM THE HEALTH COMMISSIONER SAYING NO AS OF THIS POINT IT'S ABOUT 50,000 RESERVATIONS MADE.
AND LATER IN THE DR. NGOZI EZIKE ALLISON ARWADY DID SEEM TO -- Dr. ALLISON ARWADY DID GIVE A NOD TO THE CONFUSION.
>> I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE UNITED CENTER AND I KNOW THE FOCUS THE RENEWED FOCUS ON EQUITY HAVE COME HAS LED TO CHANGES AND SOME CONFUSION FOR PEOPLE AND I APOLOGIZE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE FEELING UNSURE ABOUT THIS RESOURCE.
>> BEFORE I GO OWN A NOTED MEDIA IS SET APART FROM THE INDIVIDUALS GET THE VACCINES AND WE NOT BOTHER THEM FOR THE SAKE OF PRIVACY.
THE VIDEO IS ACTUALLY FROM A PREVIEW YESTERDAY AFTERNOON.
AS FOR THAT CONFUSION THAT STEMS FROM A DAY PRIOR.
SUNDAY WHEN ACCESS TO APPOINTMENTS SUDDENLY GOT SWITCHED TO AT FIRST ANYONE AGES STICKS 5 OR OLDER FROM -- 65 OR OLDER FROM ILLINOIS COULD SIGN UP AND THERE WAS A HUGE RUSH WITH 754 APPOINTMENTS PER MINUTE BOOKED DURING A WINDOW THAT LET IN YOUNGER INDIVIDUALS WITH CERTAIN CO-MORBIDITIES CANCER OR PULMONARY DISEASE.
OFFICIALS SAY THAT THE EARLY DATA FROM THAT SHOWED LESS THAN 40% OF THOSE WHO GOT APPOINTMENTS WERE CHICAGO RESIDENTS ALREADY CALLED THAT -- Dr. ARWADY CALLED THAT UNACCEPTABLE DEFEATING THE PURPOSE FOR FEMA TO PUT A MASS VACCINATION CLINIC ON CHICAGO'S WEST SIDE.
>> WE HAVE A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE BEEN BURDENED HEAVILY BY COVID.
HEAVILY BLACK AND LATINX NEIGHBORHOODS AND NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE MORE BARRIERS TO GETTING VACCINATED AND ONE OF THE DECISIONS FOR PLACING THE VACCINATION CENTER HERE WAS RECOGNIZING THAT WE WANTED TO REACH CHICAGO RESIDENTS.
>> AND SO FOR NOW, THERE IS REALLY NO WAY TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT HERE.
TEMPORARILY ACCESS CUTOFF.
IT IS SET TO REOPEN LATER THIS WEEK.
IN THE MEANWHILE LOCAL AND STATE OFFICIALS SAY THEY ARE DEPENDING TO TRY TO WORK TO FILL THE APPOINTMENTS BEHIND THE SCENES WITH AN AIM OF 60% OF RESERVATIONS GOING TO CHICAGO RESIDENTS, 30% TO RESIDENTS OF SUBURBAN COOK COUNTY AND 10% FOR THOSE WHO LIVE THROUGHOUT THE REST OF ILLINOIS.
THE CITY IN PARTICULAR TARGETING FOLKS FROM VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES INCLUDING THOSE NEAR THE UNITED CENTER HUMBOLDT PARK AND A HANDFUL OF OTHER ZIP CODES MCKINLEY PARK, CHATHAM, ROSELAND, SOUTH SHORE AND IN CASES YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE APPOINTMENTS BOOKED AND SET ASIDE FOR COMMUNITY GROUPS TO HELP GET THE WORD OUT.
WE DIDN'T GET A TON OF SPECIFICS FROM OFFICIALS ON THAT.
NOW, ARWADY SAID THIS FOCUS ON EQUITY IS NOT JUST THE RIGHT THING TO DO IT'S THE WAY TO NIP COVID IN THE BUD.
>> ALSO MAKING SURE MORE PEOPLE ARE VACCINATED IN THE HEAVIEST HIT ZIP CODES IS HOW WE ACTUALLY DECREASE OUR CASE RATE AND HOW WE DECREASE THE RISK OF VARIANTS AND HOW WE ARE REABLE TO OPEN THE CITY AND HAVE LOWER RISKS.
>> THE CITY IS MAKING PROGRESS IN DECREASING CASES.
>> PARTICULARLY IN LATINX CHICAGOANS WHERE WE NOW ARE SEEING CASE RATE FOR COVID OF LATINX CHICAGOANS NOT HIGHER THAN YOU WOULD EXPECT THEM TO BE BASED ON POPULATION WHERE OUR CASE RATES ARE LOOKING LIKE THE CITY AS FAR AS RACE AND ETHNICITY GOES.
>> AND WHEN IT COMES TO VACCINATIONS, DATA SHOWS 59% GOING TO BLACK AND LATINX RESIDENTS ABOUT ON PAR AGAIN WITH THE CITY'S POPULATION MAKEUP.
STATE-WIDE, ABOUT HALF OF ILLINOISANS OVER THE AGE OF 65 HAVE THUS FAR RECEIVED A COVID-19 VACCINE.
SENIORS CONTINUE TO BE THE TARGET FOR VACCINATIONS.
GENERALLY WE ARE EXPECTING ELIGIBILITY TO OPEN UP SOME BY THE END OF MARCH.
AS FOR THE UNITED CENTER, DESPITE THAT MADHOUSE ON MADISON MONIKER THINGS WERE ORGANIZED AND BARRICADES AND TRAFFIC CONTROL UNLIKE IF YOU WERE TO COME FOR A GAME, VACCINES FREE BUT, YES, ALSO PARKING RIGHT NOW BY THE WAY, THIS IS ALL WALK UP TO GET ONE OF THE SHOTS.
BUT THE CITY DOES EXPECT IF A COUPLE OF WEEKS TO BEGIN DRIVE-THRU AND WHILE THERE IS STILL NOT ENOUGH VACCINE FOR EVERYONE, OFFICIALS ARE STRESSING THAT ALL OF THE VACCINES BEING GIVEN HERE AT THE UNITED CENTER ARWADY EXPECTS SOME 180,000 OF THEM.
THESE ARE ALL VACCINES THAT WEREN'T IN THE INITIAL ALLOTMENT FOR THE CITY AND THE STATE.
SO THAT DOES MEAN THAT ANOTHER 180,000 PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET THE COVID VACCINE OVER THESE NEXT EIGHT WEEKS.
SO WITH THAT, BRANDIS, BACK TO YOU.
>> AMANDA, THANK YOU.
>> AND NOW TO PARIS WITH SOME LOCAL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS.
PARIS?
>> BRANDIS CONGRESS IS ON THE PRECIPICE OF APPROVING A NEARLY $2 TRILLION STIMULUS PLAN AND HERE IS WHAT PRESIDENT BIDEN HAD TO SAY ABOUT IT.
>> THIS PLAN PUTS US ON A PATH TO BEATING THE VIRUS.
THIS PLAN GIVES THOSE FAMILIES WHO ARE STRUGGLING THE MOST THE HELP AND BREATHING ROOM THEY NEED TO GET THROUGH THIS MOMENT.
THIS PLAN GIVES SMALL BUSINESSES A FIGHTING CHANCE TO SURVIVE.
>> AND HERE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IS IN THE BILL AND WHAT CHANGED AND WHAT IS NEXT ARE CONGRESSMAN DANNY DAVIS A DEMOCRAT FROM THE AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD.
CONGRESSMAN SEAN CASTEN A DEMOCRAT FROM DOWNER'S DPROF.
CONGRESSMAN RODNEY DAVIS A REPUBLICAN FROM TAYLORVILLE.
AND MARIE NEWMAN A DEMOCRAT FROM CHICAGO'S SOUTHWEST SIDE.
WELCOME BACK TO ALL OF YOU.
LET'S GET DOWN TO THE NUMBERS ON THE STIMULUS ESPECIALLY WITH THE $1400 DIRECT PAYMENT FOR I HAD HAVE INDIVIDUALS MAKING LESS THAN $75,000.
AND ADDITIONAL $1400 FOR EACH DEPENDENT CLAIMED ON TAXES NT $1400 STIMULUS DISAPPEARS FOR INDIVIDUALS MAKING MORE THAN 80,000 AND COUPLES MAKING MORE THAN 160,000.
HAS TO GO BACK TO THE HOUSE.
DO YOU ANTICIPATE APPROVAL THIS WEEK?
AND MIGHT IT BE BIPARTISAN?
>> CONGRESSMAN DANNY DAVIS?
>> OH, I THINK WE'RE VOTING AND IT'S ALMOST A DONE DEAL.
THE REALITY IS IT'S DIFFICULT FOR ME TO IMAGINE HOW ANYONE COULD USE THEIR FINGER TO VOTE AGAINST THIS BILL.
IT DOES ALL THE THINGS THAT PRESIDENT BIDEN SAID IT WOULD DO.
BUT IT DOES EVEN MORE THAN THAT.
IT TOUCHES THE LIVES OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS AT THE LOW-END OF THE SOCIOECONOMIC LADDER NOT ONLY THE 1400, BUT THE TAX CREDITS FOR CHILDREN.
I MEAN THIS IS LIKE FROM HEAVEN.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU COULD DO MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT THIS BILL DOES NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE IN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS ON ANYWHERE IN AMERICA.
>> THERE ARE A LOT OF ELEMENTS IN THE BILL.
CONGRESSMAN RODNEY DAVIS IT WAS A PART LINE VOTE IN THE HOUSE THE FIRST TIME.
HOW WILL YOU VOTE?
AND DO YOU ANTICIPATE BIPARTISANSHIP?
>> WELL, MY GOOD FRIEND DANNY AND I ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DISAGREE ON THIS ONE.
IF IT WAS A MATTER FROM HEAVEN THE DEMOCRATS WOULD NOT HAVE HAD TO USE THE RECONCILIATION PROCESS TO PASS IT.
WE PASSED BIPARTISAN BILLS DURING THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION TO ADDRESS COVID AND COVID RELIEF.
HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS ARE STILL LEFT UNSPENT IN THE LAST BIPARTISAN AGREEMENT WE HAD IN DECEMBER.
I WILL EASILY VOTE NO BECAUSE 9% OF THE ALMOST $2 TRILLION ON THE BACKS OF EVERY TAXPAYER EVERYWHERE IN AMERICA IS ONLY 9% IS GOING TO ACTUALLY ADDRESS GETTING MORE VACCINES INTO THE ARMS OF EVERY AMERICAN AND ALSO TRUE COVID RELATED CAUSES.
>> THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT PENCES IN THE BILL.
CONGRESSMAN CASTEN THERE IS 350 BILLION FOR STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT ILLINOIS IS GOING TO GET OVER $7 BILLION FOR ITS STATE COFFERS HOW CAN THAT MONEY BE SPENT?
>> WELL, LOOK, I WANT TO COMMENT ON THE BIPARTISAN POINT.
THE SINGLE BIGGEST LINE ITEM IS THE $1400 CHECKS TO AMERICANS WHICH WAS A BIG PART OF DONALD TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN PROMISE THAT IS BIPARTISAN TAKING THE IDEA OF A PRIOR PRESIDENT.
AND 13.7 BILLION TO ILLINOIS TO -- >> TO ALL DIFFERENT GOVERNMENTS.
>> IN ADDITION IN THE COUNTIES I REPRESENT 998 MILLION TO COOK, 179 MILLION IT DID YOU PAYMENT.
I'M SORRY TO HEAR THAT CONGRESSMAN DAVIS IS GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THIS BUT THERE'S 40 MILLION TO DOWN STATE CHAMPAGNE COUNTY.
THIS IS NEED THAT IS SOLVING AN ISSUE.
THERE'S 9.5 MILLION PEOPLE OUT OF WORK.
PERMANENTLY LEFT THE WORKFORCE.
THERE'S 1.4 MILLION PUBLIC SECTOR WORKERS UNEMPLOYED AND YES IT WAS EXTREMELY BIPARTISAN FOR US TO SUPPORT BUSINESSES THROUGH THE PPP PROGRAM.
WE NEVER REALLY HAD BIPARTISAN SUPPORT TO SUPPORT OUR STATES AND MUNICIPALITIES WE DIDN'T HAVE BIPARTISAN SUPPORT FOR OUR TEACHERS AND FIREFIGHTERS FOR FUNDING OUR POLICE.
AND THAT'S UNFORTUNATE.
BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN WE SHOULDN'T DO IT.
>> THAT'S JUST NOT TRUE.
THERE'S OVER 60 BILLION LEFT FROM THE BIPARTISAN PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT WE PUT FORTH IN DECEMBER THAT COULD GO TO REOPEN OUR SCHOOLS.
INSTEAD OF PLANNING TO REOPEN OUR SCHOOLS THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION IS NOT PUTTING FORTH A TRUE EFFORT THAT SCIENCE AND THE EXPERTS SAY SHOULD BE BEST AND WOULD BE BEST FOR OUR KIDS MOVING INTO THE FUTURE.
WE HAVE DISAGREEMENTS ON LEGISLATION BUT TO SAY THE BILLS IN THE PAST DID NOT ADDRESS THOSE WHO NEEDED HELP THE MOST WHEN IT CAME TO FIREFIGHTERS AND PUBLIC EMPLOYEES WE DID THAT TOGETHER.
>> I HAVE TO GET GUESS WOMAN IN HERE.
-- CONGRESSWOMAN EXPLAIN THE EXPANDED ILLINOIS TAX CREDIT AND WHAT THAT MEANS IN TERMS OF MONEY IN THEIR POCKET?
>> WELL, THANK YOU.
I WANT TO RESPOND TO MY COLLEAGUE FROM TAYLORSVILLE ON HIS COMMENT AROUND UNSPENT MONEY.
I ASKED THE C.E.O.S OF METRA AND THE RTA, CTA WHY THEY HAD NOT SPENT THE MONEY AND THEY SAID WE WERE FEARFUL THE REPUBLICANS WOULD YANK THE MONEY AND IT WAS NOT PROVIDED.
THEY NEED PREDICTABILITY SO THEY DID NOT SPEND DOWN TO ZERO AS ANY SMART ORGANIZATIONAL EXECUTIVE WOULD DO.
THEY SAVED SOME SO THEIR PLAN IS NOW THAT THEY KNOW THEY ARE GETTING THIS OTHER MONEY TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE MONEY FROM THIS BILL AND THEN ULTIMATELY A STIMULUS BILL, NOW THEY WILL SPEND DOWN.
IN TERMS OF THE CHILD CREDIT THIS IS REALLY SIGNIFICANT THIS IS GOING TO LIFT MILLIONS UPWARDS OF 40 MILLION CHILDREN OUT OF CHILD POVERTY.
$3,000 A CHILD IS REALLY IMPORTANT IN PROVIDING ALL THAT A FAMILY NEEDS.
THE PACKAGE OVERALL IS HELPING FAMILIES SINGLE MOMS, SINGLE DADS, EVERYBODY.
THE FACT THAT SOME OF THE MONEY WASN'T SPENT DOWN IS BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE BEING PRUDENT TO MAKE SURE THEY HAD ENOUGH TO STRETCH THROUGH THE PANDEMIC.
AND I WOULD SAY FURTHER THIS WAS A BIPARTISAN EFFORT.
I UNDERSTAND WE'RE VOTING ON PARTY LINES.
BUT PRESIDENT BIDEN MADE EVERY EFFORT SEVERAL PEOPLE CAME WITH A VERY DISRESPECTFUL AMOUNT IT WAS LESS THAN ONE-THIRD OF THE OFFER ON THE TABLE THAT IS NOT EVEN NEGOTIATION THAT IS SILLINESS.
TOO, THE REPUBLICANS ASKED FOR TARGETED CHECKS AND WE DID.
WE ACCOMMODATED SOME OF THEIR WISHES WE LISTENED TO THEM AND GAVE THEM LOTS OF TIME AND IT ENDED UP WE PUT SOME OF THEIR THOUGHTS INTO THE BILL.
>> CONGRESSMAN DANNY DAVIS ANOTHER PART OF THIS BILL IS LOWER PREMIUMS IN THE FORM OF TAX CREDITS FOR THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT.
WHAT WILL THAT MEAN FOR ILLINOISANS?
>> WELL, IT WILL MEAN A GREAT DEAL.
AND I LOVE THESE TALKING POINTS THAT SOME OF MY REPUBLICAN FRIENDS AND COLLEAGUES MAKE.
>> THREE AGAINST ONE I HAVE TO GIVE RODNEY DAVIS A CHANCE TO FOLLOW-UP.
>> 9% PEOPLE COULDN'T GET A VACCINE IF THEY COULDN'T GET TO THE PLACES WHERE IT WAS BEING USED AND GIVEN.
AND SO EVERY BIT OF THIS MONEY QUITE FRANKLY ENDS UP BEING AN AID TO REBUILDING CONFIDENCE IN OUR ECONOMY AND GIVING PEOPLE THE WHEREWITHAL IF YOUR RESTAURANT IS CLOSED AND YOU CAN'T GO TO WORK, AND YOU GET HELP TO OPEN IT, NOW YOU CAN GET TO THE STATION WHERE THEY ARE GIVEN THE VACCINE.
OTHERWISE YOU CAN'T EVEN GET THERE.
SO TO SUGGEST THAT SOMEHOW ONLY 9% OF THIS MONEY IS GOING TO DEAL WITH CORONAVIRUS, THE PANDEMIC, I THINK THAT'S WAY FAR-FETCHED.
>> ALL RIGHT.
WE HAVE TO LEAVE IT THERE, RODNEY DAVIS WE WILL GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO FOLLOW-UP IN THE NEXT SEGMENT LATER IN THE SHOW.
WE WILL BE JOINED LATER TO DISCUSS VOTING RIGHTS INFRASTRUCTURE AND MORE.
FOR NOW OUR THANKS TO DANNY DAVIS, RODNEY DAVIS, SEAN CASTEN AND MARIE NEWMAN.
>> AND TO PHIL PONCE AND NEW LOOK AT THE GUIDELINES FROM THE CDC.
>> THE CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL AND PREVENTION ARE ANOWING NEW GUIDELINES FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN FULLY VACCINATED PART ALLOW VACCINATED PEOPLE TO VISIT EACH OTHER INDOORS WITHOUT MASKS OR SOCIAL DISTANCING.
ARE THESE NEW RULES A GLIMPSE OF A RETURN TO NORMAL LIFE?
JOINING US IS Dr. EMILY LANDON EXECUTIVE MEDICAL DIRECTOR FOR INFECTION PREVENTION AND CONTROL AT U CHICAGO MEDICINE.
DOCTOR THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
AND LET'S LOOK AT THE THREE MAIN BULLET POINTS FROM THE NEW CDC GUIDELINES THEY ARE FOR FULLY VACCINATED PEOPLE.
INDOOR VISITS WITHOUT MASKS OR SIX FEET SOCIAL DISTANCING ARE ALLOWED.
INDOOR VISITS WITH UNVACCINATED PEOPLE FROM ONE OTHER HOUSEHOLD ARE ALSO ALLOWED.
AND FOLKS WHO COME INTO CONTACT WITH SOMEONE WHO TESTED POSITIVE FOR COVID-19 ARE NOT REQUIRED TO QUARANTINE OR GET TESTED.
FIRST OF ALL, MORE ON WHAT THE GUIDELINES ARE DESIGNED TO DO.
HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE THEM IN SUMMARY?
>> WELL, I THINK THAT THEY ARE DESIGNED TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO GET BACK TO NORMAL A LITTLE BIT.
AS WE LEARN MORE ABOUT HOW EFFECTIVE THE VACCINES ARE AND HOW TO CONTROL COVID EVERYONE HAS BEEN WANTING TO GET PEOPLE BACK TO NORMAL AND THIS IS A GREAT, IMPORTANT SORT OF GUIDANCE THAT LETS EVERYONE KNOW WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT DO.
I KNOW THERE'S MORE COMING BEHIND THIS AS WE GET FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD AND MORE PEOPLE VACCINATED.
IN GENERAL IT'S DESIGNED TO LET US GET BACK TO NORMAL.
>> VACCINATED PEOPLE INTERACTING WITH OTHER VACCINATED PEOPLE.
WHAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE?
>> WE KNOW ONCE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN VACCINATED THEY ARE UNLIKELY TO HAVE ANYTHING SERIOUS HAPPEN IF THEY GET COVID BUT THEY COULD ONCE IN A WHILE PASS ON A MILD CASE TO SOMEONE ELSE MANY AND THIS IS ABOUT TO MAKE SURE THEY DO NOT HAVE CONTACT WITH PEOPLE HIGH-RISK.
IF YOU ARE AROUND OTHER VACCINATED PEOPLE THAT IS FINE.
THEY WILL JUST GET A COLD, TOO.
NO BIG DEAL IF YOU HAVE AN ASYMPTOMATIC CASE AND PASS IT ALONG.
>> SO IF YOU ARE VACCINATED INTERACTING WITH OTHER VACCINATED PEOPLE YOU DO NOT NEED TO SOCIAL DISTANCE AND DO YOU NOT NEED TO WEAR A MASK.
SAY YOU ARE MY AGE AND I WANT TO VISIT MY ADULT CHILDREN NOT VACCINATED, WHAT THEN?
>> WELL,S THEN THE RECOMMENDATION IT IS OK FOR A VACCINATED PERSON TO VISIT ONE UNVACCINATED HOUSEHOLD AT A TIME AND THAT IS NOT LETTING TWO UNVACCINATED HOUSE HOLDS GET TOGETHER WITHOUT WEARING MASKS NOT ABOUT THE VACCINATED PERSON.
YOU WANT THE PERSON TO COME INTO THE UNVACCINATED HOUSEHOLD AND BE A VISITOR NOT LIKELY TO BRING ANYTHING BAD INTO THE MIX AND NOT LIKELY TO PICK UP ANYTHING THAT WILL BE DANGEROUS FROM THAT FAMILY.
NOW THERE'S ONE CAVEAT.
IF YOU ARE OFTEN AROUND OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAVE THAT ARE HIGH-RISK FOR A BAT OUTCOMES OF COVID AND UNVACCINATED OR ONE OF THE FAMILY MEMBERS THAT YOU ARE VISITING IS HIGH-RISK THEN YOU HAVE TO KEEP THE MASK.
YOU STILL COULD THAT BREAKTHROUGH INFECTION THAT YOU DON'T KNOW YOU HAVE IS STILL A PROBLEM A POSSIBILITY THAT WE HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR BECAUSE THERE'S STILL TOO MANY CASES.
>> HOW ABOUT IF YOU ARE A VACCINATED GRANT PARENT LIKE I AM, HOW ABOUT VISITING HEALTHY GRANDCHILDREN WHO ARE SEVEN, EIGHT, 9, 10 YEARS OLD?
>> IT'S TIME.
GO VISIT YOUR GRANDKIDS.
THIS IS WHAT IT'S ABOUT.
ONCE YOU HAVE BEEN VACCINATED YOU ARE UNLIKELY TO PICK UP ANYTHING DANGEROUS FROM THE GRANDKIDS EASTERN IF THEY ARE CARRYING COVID YOU WILL PROBABLY ONLY HAVE A MILD COLD AT THE WORST.
SO NOT A BIG DEAL.
>> HOW ABOUT IF YOU ARE VACCINATED AND YOU WANT TO BE AROUND YOUR GRANDCHILDREN THERE IS A GRAY AREA ABOUT THE EXTENT TO WISH YOU MIGHT STILL BE ASYMPTOMATIC BUT CONCEIVABLY PASS IT ON TO LIKE YOUR GRANDCHILD.
>> IT IS POSSIBLE.
BUT THAT'S UNLIKELY.
REMEMBER AS WE'RE GOING FORWARD PART OF THE REASON THE GUIDELINES ARE COMING OUT WE ARE LEARNING THAT PEOPLE WHO GET COVID AFTER THEY HAVE HAD BOTH DOSES OF THE VACCINE OR LESS KNOWN ABOUT THE JOHNSON & JOHNSON BUT STILL GOOD, THE LIKELIHOOD IS GREAT THAT YOU WILL HAVE SYMPTOMS AND THEN YOU SHOULDN'T VISIT YOUR GRANDKIDS IF YOU HAVE SYMPTOMS GET TESTED.
BUT THE PEOPLE WITH ASYMPTOMATIC HAVE SUCH LOW AMOUNTS OF VIRUS THAT THEY DO NOT APPEAR TO BE SPREADING IT TO OTHER PEOPLE.
THEY ARE NOT GIVE TO GO TO THEIR OWN FAMILIES.
SO THE LIKELIHOOD THAT YOU WILL PASS COVID ON TO YOUR GRANDCHILDREN IS LOW.
IT'S STILL NOT NOTHING IF THEY ARE HIGH-RISK FROM A BAD OUTCOME YOU KEEP THE MASKS FOR A WHILE LONGER.
EVERYTHING IS GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
>> BUT THE RULES ARE STILL DIFFERENT WHEN ONE IS OUT IN PUBLIC EVEN IF YOU HAVE BEEN VACCINATED.
BRIEFLY WHAT ARE THEY?
>> YES, WE STILL WANT PEOPLE IN MEDIUM TO LARGE GATHERINGS AND IN PUBLIC TO JUST WEAR THEIR MASKS.
IT'S HARD TO KNOW WHO IS VACCINATE AND WHO IS NOT FOLLOWING THE RULES.
PLUS WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS PASSING AROUND.
WE WANT TO MINIMIZE THE LIKELIHOOD OF PASSING AROUND ANY VARIANTS OR THINGS THAT MAY BREAKTHROUGH OUR COVID VACCINES.
BUT WE WANT TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO FEED OUR FAMILY AND GET BACK TO NORMALCY BECAUSE WE KNOW THE VACCINES ARE WORKING WELL.
THAT IS A WAY TO BALANCE THAT IDEA THAT THERE ARE THINGS WE CANNOT ACCOUNT FOR.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT YOU CAN DO THESE THINGS.
>> AND LAST QUESTION THAT HAS TO DO WITH TRAVEL, SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WANTING TO TRAVEL IF YOU ARE VACCINATED AND TRAVELING WITH SOMEBODY WHO IS VACCINATED OK TO TRAVEL, YES OR NO?
>> THE CDC IS STILL SAYING NO.
AND I TOTALLY YOU HAD THAT.
WE ARE LOOKING AT THE LIKELIHOOD OF A INFECTION IN A VACCINATED PERSON ARE LOW.
HOWEVER THE VARIANTS ARE WHAT IS LIKELY TO BREAKTHROUGH THROUGH THAT PROTECTION.
UNLESS IT IS ESSENTIAL YOU SHOULD AVOID THAT FOR NOW.
I THINK THEY MIGHT CHANGE THAT AFTER SPRING BREAK.
BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO OPEN UP AND SAY TRAVEL RIGHT NOW.
REALLY THE BEST THING IS FOR US TO STAY PUT THROUGH ONE MORE CYCLES AND I SUSPECT WE WILL BE SEEING BETTER FOR MORE ADVICE ABOUT PRO TRAVELING ADVICE COMING IN THE EARLY SUMMER.
>> Dr. LANDON THANK YOU WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT.
>> THANK YOU.
>> AND UP NEXT THE PAYDAY LENDING INDUSTRY IN ILLINOIS AND WHAT SHUTTING IT DOWN COULD MEAN.
STAY WITH US.
>> IMAGINE TAKING OUT A SHORT-TERM LOAN AND MAKING PAYMENTS AND DISCOVERING YOU OWE FOUR OR FIVE TIMES THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT?
IT IS A REALITY MANY LOWER INCOME ILLINOISANS FACE CAUGHT UP IN A CYCLE OF PREDATORY LENDING.
NOW LEGISLATION AWAITING THE GOVERNOR'S SIGNATURE COULD SHUTDOWN THE PAYDAY LENDING INDUSTRY FOR GOOD BUT PROPONENTS SAY THAT COULD LEAD TO A HOST OF BIGGER PROBLEMS.
>> IT IS A VERY BIG SCARY NUMBER BUT WHEN YOU ARE DESPERATE YOU DON'T SEE IT.
>> KEISHA NEEDED AA CASH INFUSION OF 1250 TO MAKE PAYROLL COSTS FOR HER SMALL JANITORIAL SERVICES COMPANY.
SHE TOOK OUT AN AUTO TITLE LOAN A SHORT-TERM LOAN THAT USES THE BORROWER'S VEHICLE AS COLLATERAL AND WAS SHUTOFF FROM BANK LOANSISM THE FACT THAT NO ONE WANTS TO LOAN TO A PERSON WITH $100,000 IN STUDENT LOANS.
>> THE LOAN CAME WITH AN INTEREST RATE OF 197%.
THAT BALLOONED HER $1250 TO A PAYMENT OF $3400.
THAT SHE PAID OFF EARLY LAST WEEK.
IT IS A STORY THAT PLAYS OUT CONSTANTLY IN BLACK AND LATINO COMMUNITIES.
SOUTH SIDE STATE SENATOR JACQUELINE COLLINS CO-RESPONSESD THE ILLINOIS PREDATORY LENDING ACT WHICH WOULD CAP INTEREST RATES AT 36%.
>> ANYTHING ABOVE 36% IS PREDATORY.
AND USERY.
AND WE KNOW THAT HIGH COST PAYDAY LOANS AND AUTO LOANS STRIPPED COMMUNITIES OF BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, THE BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITIES IN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS.
>> THE BILL WOULD IMPACT PAYDAY LOANS A TWO-WEEK LOAN WHERE THE MONEY IS TAKEN FROM THE BORROWER'S NEXT PAYCHECK AND IMPACT AUTO TITLE LOANS AND SHORT-TERM LENDING PRODUCTS.
>> DO PEOPLE GET IN TROUBLE WITH LOANS?
SURE.
>> STEVE BREW BAKER WHO LOBBIES STATE GOVERNMENT SAYS THE 36% RATE WILL PUT MOST PAYDAY AND AUTO TITLE LOAN STORES OUT OF BUSINESS WHILE CUTTING OFF A LIFE LINE FOR BORROWERS WITH POOR CREDIT.
>> WE ARE CLOSING THE STORES AND FIRING THE PEOPLE AND NOT PROVIDING THE CUSTOMERS WITH ANY OPTIONS AND WE'RE TAKING A BILLION DOLLARS OUT OF THE MARKETPLACE WHICH WAS USED TO FIX YOUR CAR, BUY A NEW REFRIGERATOR, SPEND IT ON KIDS' CLOTHES FOR SCHOOL.
>> THE AVERAGE APR FOR AN AUTO TITLE LOAN IN ILLINOIS IS 197%.
THE AVERAGE PAYDAY LOAN RATE IS 297%.
BUT BREW BAKER SAYS THE NUMBERS ARE MISLEADING WHEN MEASURING THE TWO-WEEK LENGTH OF THE LOAN IT COMES OUT TO $15 ON THE $100.
>> WHEN THEY SEE THAT GIANT NUMBER THEY MISUNDERSTAND WHAT THE CUSTOMER HAS TO PAYBACK.
THE AVERAGE LOAN AMOUNT FOR A PAYDAY LOAN IN 2019 WAS $340.
AND THE AVERAGE FEE AMOUNT THAT WAS CHARGED WAS $52.
INTO WHAT IS MISLEADING IS THAT IT IS A SHORT-TERM LOAN.
BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS FOLKS HAVE TO BORROW OVER AND OVER TO PAYBACK THE PREVIOUS LOAN.
>> BRENT ADAMS IS VICE-PRESIDENT AT THE WOODSTOCK INSTITUTE A NONPROFIT THAT ADVOCATES ON BEHALF OF LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES AND COMMUNITIES OF COLOR.
HE SAYS THE PAYDAY LENDING INDUSTRY RELIES ON HOOKING BORROWERS INTO A NEVER ENDING CYCLE OF DEBT WITH HID ESPECIALLY ROLLOVER FEES.
>> WHAT THE LENDER WILL DO IS WHEN THE BILL COMES DUE THEY WILL OFFER THEM AN OPTION.
AN OPTION THAT ALLOWS THEM TO ROLLOVER THE LOAN, REFINANCE THE LOAN, TAKE OUT A DIFFERENT LOAN.
>> THE NEXT FRIDAY CAME AROUND I OWED WHAT I BORROWED AND IT WAS CRAZY AND I MADE A DOUBLE PAYMENT AND IT WAS UPSETTING I KEPT DIGGING THE HOLE AND I COULD NOT FIND A WAY OUT OF IT.
>> GOVERNOR J.B. PRITZKER IS EXPECTED TO SIGN THE LEGISLATION BUT THE ISSUE MIGHT NOT END THERE.
OPPONENTS OF THE PAYDAY LENDING INDUSTRY SAY THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT A SERIES OF BILLS CIRCULATING IN THE ILLINOIS GENERAL ASSEMBLY THAT WOULD GUT SOME OF THE PROTECTIONS THAT ARE IN THE BILL AWAITING THE GOVERNOR'S SIGNATURE.
SPONSORS OF TWO BILLS IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE DECLINE TO BE INTERVIEWED FOR THIS STORY.
BREWBAKER BELIEVES THE 36% RATE CAP WILL HAVE THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE TO PUSHING BORROWERS INTO LOANS ON-LINE AND CREDIT UNIONS AND COMMUNITY BANKS CAN PICK UP THE SLACK.
AND GOVERNOR J.B. PRITZKER HAS UNTIL NEXT MONTH TO DECIDE WHAT TO DO WITH THE BILL.
IN A STATEMENT HIS OFFICE SAYS QUOTE... >> AND NOW BRANDIS WE GO BACK TO YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
STILL TO COME ON "CHICAGO TONIGHT", MEMBERS OF CONGRESS LOOK AHEAD TO THE NEXT BIG DEBATES INCLUDING INFRASTRUCTURE AND VOTING RIGHTS.
A NEW REPORT POINTS TO AN INCREASE IN ANTI-ASIAN HATE CRIMES REPORTED LAST YEAR IN SEVERAL CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
AND WHY BUSINESSES WANT TO GET AWAY FROM HANDLING CASH AND HOW THE COSTS OF CASHLESS TRANSACTIONS GET PASSED ON TO CONSUMERS.
FIRST MORE OF TODAY'S TOP STORIES.
DESPITE A FEDERAL REVIEW GREEN LIGHTING THE OBAMA PRESIDENTIAL CENTER LEGAL CHALLENGES ARE NOT OVER.
PROTECT OUR PARKS FILED A PETITION WITH THE U.S. SUPREME COURT TO REVISIT AN APPELLATE COURT DECISION ISSUED LAST AUGUST THAT DECISION SAID THE NONPROFIT LACKED ANY GROUNDS TO SUE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
THE FILING COMES DAYS AFTER THE OBAMA FOUNDATION REVEALED NEW DESIGN FACILITIES FOR THE PROPOSED 235-FOOT TOWER AN EXCERPT OF A SPEECH THAT WILL BE CARVED INTO THE BUILDING'S CROWN.
MORE IS ON OUR WEBSITE.
>> IN THE ONGOING DEBATE OVER METAL SCRAPPER GENERAL IRON'S MOVE TO THE SOUTH SIDE HEALTH PROFESSIONALS ARE CALLING ON THE CITY TO DENY THE PERMIT TO PROTECT RESIDENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
>> ALLOWING THE RELOCATION AND OPERATION OF GENERAL IRON'S FACILITY WILL PLACE ANOTHER SOURCE OF ENVIRONMENTAL POLLUTANT IN A MOSTLY LATINO AND BLACK COMMUNITY ALREADY BURDENED BY SERIOUS HEALTH THREATS CONTINUING AN UNJUST PATTERN OF ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM.
>> THE ACTIVISTS CIRCULATED A LETTER SAYING GENERAL IRON WAS REPEATEDLY CITED IN LINCOLN PARK AND MOVING IT TO THE SOUTHEAST SIDE WOULD DEEPEN ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM AND INEQUITIES.
A FEDERAL JUDGE IS EXPECTED TO RULE NEXT MONTH IN A LAWSUIT AIMING TO PREVENT THE COMPANY FROM RECEIVING A KEY CITY PERMIT.
AND NOW BACK TO PARIS WITH MORE FROM MEMBERS OF CONGRESS.
>> THANKS.
EARLIER IN THE SHOW WE ASKED FOUR MEMBERS OF CONGRESS WHAT TO EXPECT FROM THE STIMULUS BILL THAT WILL BE VOTED ON TOMORROW AND NOW WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AHEAD AT OTHER PRIORITIES AND ISSUES.
JOINING US ARE REPRESENTATIVES DANNY DAVIS, SEAN CASTEN, RODNEY DAVIS AND MARIE NEWMAN.
CONGRESSMAN DAVIS I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE CONGRESSMAN DANNY DAVIS WAS CRITICAL OF YOUR OPPOSITION TO THE COVID STIMULUS.
>> YOU KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE DISAGREEMENTS HERE AND DANNY AND I ARE GOOD FRIENDS.
I LOOK FORWARD TO A WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH MARIE NEWMAN BUT WE DISAGREE ON THE ISSUE.
THE COST OUTWEIGHS THE LONG-TERM BENEFITS AND TRANSIT DISTRICTS IN MY PART DOWN STATE HAVE HAD NO PROBLEM SPENDING THEIR COVID DOLLARS THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY THAT REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO TAKE THE DOLLARS AWAY AND I LOOK FORWARD TO REPRESENTATIVES OF RTA AND METRA AND OTHERS COMING IN FRONT OF OUR HIGHWAYS SUBCOMMITTEE AND ASKING THEM QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS FEAR.
>> AND MY NEXT TOPIC, CONGRESSMAN CASTEN PRESIDENT BIDEN TALKED ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE, A NUMBER AS HIGH AS FOUR TRILLION FOR A POTENTIAL INFRASTRUCTURE BILL WHAT WOULD BE THE BIG NEEDS IN ILLINOIS IF SUCH A BILL WERE TO COME TO THE FLOOR?
>> THE CIVIL ENGINEERS TOLD ME THEY HAVE RECENTLY RAISED THE THE GRADE OF AMERICAN INFRASTRUCTURE WE ARE NOW A C MINUS AND ROADS AND SCHOOLS AND BROADBAND.
THE SINGLE BIGGEST THING THAT IS IMPORTANT TO ME IS OUR ELECTRIC INFRASTRUCTURE WE ARE ON A PATH TO DECARBONIZE OUR ECONOMY AND ACCELERATE THE EMPLOYMENT OF CLEANER AND CHEAPER ENERGY AND WE ARE ON A PATH TO INCREASE THE ELECTRIFICATION OF OUR VEHICLES THAT MEANS WE ARE CHANGING WHERE THE GENERATION IS.
THERE WILL BE A BOON TO ILLINOIS MOVING WHERE THE GENERATORS ARE AND CHANGING WHERE THE LOADS ARE AND WE ARE GOING TO REALLY NEED TO HAVE A LONG OVERDUE CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW TO BUILD ELECTRIC TRANSMISSION AND GET IT TO THE GENERATION LOAD AND WE HAVE A ONCE IN A GENERATION OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD THE ELECTRIC GRID OF THE FUTURE THAT WE KNOW WE NEED.
>> THAT IS IN ADDITION TO ROADS AND BRIDGES.
CONGRESSWOMAN MARIE NEWMAN YOU'VE HEARD JOE MANSION A DEMOCRAT TALKING ABOUT KEEPING THE FILIBUSTER WHERE YOU NEED 10 REPUBLICANS TO SIGN ON.
IS INFRASTRUCTURE A GOOD BIPARTISAN SUPPORT OR A PARTY LINE VOTE?
>> I HOPE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO.
I SIT ON THE TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE AND WE HAVE HAD SOME AGREEMENTS I THINK WE HAD A LESS CONTENTIOUS MARKUP THAN I ANTICIPATED IN THE LAST ROUND.
I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE WILL HAVE IT.
I THINK WE'VE GOT A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY WITH THE NEXT STIMULUS PACKAGE TO INVEST IN TRANSIT SYSTEMS AND HIGH SPEED RAIL AND MAKING EVERYTHING HEALTHIER AND OUR INFRASTRUCTURE STRONGER.
GREEN UNION JOBS WILL BE THE WAY WE MOVE INTO THE FUTURE ECONOMY.
I THINK THERE WILL BE BIPARTISANSHIP IF IT ISN'T IT SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY NOT OUR GOAL TO BE BIPARTISAN.
>> AND BACK TO RODNEY DAVIS YOU MET WITH PRESIDENT BIDEN ON THIS TOPIC.
WHAT WAS THAT MEETING LIKE?
AND WHAT WOULD YOU BE IN FAVOR OF?
>> IT WAS A GREAT MEETING I WAS EXCITED TO GO INTO THE OVAL OFFICE WITH A GOOD BIPARTISAN GROUP OF FOLKS WILLING TO WORK TOGETHER AND HAVE A BIPARTISAN RECORD LIKE I DO.
AND I TALKED TO THE VICE-PRESIDENT WHO I GOT TO KNOW AND WE TRAVELED TOGETHER TO CHAMPAGNE, URBANA IN 2015 TOGETHER TO RALLY AGAINST CAMPUS SEXUAL ASSAULT AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE NEED TO MAKE THERE IS A BIPARTISAN ISSUE.
I HAVE BEEN PART OF BIPARTISAN HIGHWAY REAUTHORIZATIONS IN CONGRESS.
WE'VE SEEN THE TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE TO BE THE MOST BIPARTISAN PLACE IN THIS INSTITUTION.
MARIE AND I ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING BACK TO THAT.
THE BIGGEST CONCERN I HAVE IS THAT WE HAVE DISAGREEMENTS ON INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT.
MY COLLEAGUES TALK ABOUT GREEN UNION JOBS.
IT'S NOT A GOOD START WHEN THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION IN ONE OF ITS FIRST EFFORTS DECIDES TO SHUTDOWN A PIPELINE PROJECT THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MY UNION LABORERS MAKING 50,000 A YEAR.
>> THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE.
>> TALKING ABOUT THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE MY UNION LABORERS IS MAKING $50,000 A YEAR OR MAKING SIX FIGURES A YEAR.
THE BIGGEST DEVASTATION TO GOOD UNION PAYING INFRASTRUCTURE JOBS RIGHT NOW HAS BEEN THE ONSLAUGHT OF EXECUTIVE ORDERS COMING OUT OF THE ADMINISTRATION.
>> I NEED TO RESPOND TO THAT, PARIS ABOUT UNION LABOR JOBS BECAUSE I'M CLOSE WITH THE UNION COMMUNITY THROUGHOUT ILLINOIS.
>> I DIDN'T KNOW THE PIPELINE HAS AS MANY UNION JOBS THAT WENT TO WHERE THE PIPELINE IS THAT IS NEWS TO ME, Mr. DAVIS.
BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT THE NEW BILLS THAT ARE COMING OUT ARE GOING TO NOT JUST TRIPLE OR QUADRUPLE BUT 10 TIMES THE NUMBER OF JOBS WITH WATERWAY AND OTHER PROJECTS WE WILL USE OUR FRIENDS AT UA AND THE PIPE FIGHT FITTERS.
WE WILL BE HAVING MORE JOBS IN THAT AREA THEY WILL NOT BE USING PIPELINES AS WE USE THEM TODAY.
LOTS OF OPPORTUNITY AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
>> CONGRESSMAN DANNY DAVIS ANOTHER ISSUE THAT THE HOUSE TOOK UP IN THE PAST, DID YOU WANT TO WEIGH-IN ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE?
>> I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT MANY PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO AND WHAT THE REPUBLICAN LEGISLATORS ARE LIFTENING TO AND WHO THEY ARE FOLLOWING.
BECAUSE THE POLLS ARE SHOWING THAT MANY REPUBLICAN VOTERS ARE IN SYNC WITH THE SAME ISSUES THAT DEMOCRATIC OFFICE HOLDERS ARE VOTING FOR.
I DON'T KNOW WHO THE REPUBLICAN [INAUDIBLE] I'M NOT SAYING LEGISLATION IS NOT BIPARTISAN IT IS BIPARTISAN.
BECAUSE BIPARTISAN PEOPLE ARE IN FAVOR OF IT AND IT SEEMS THAT THE LEGISLATORS ARE LOOKING SOMEPLACE ELSE.
>> CONGRESSMAN CASTEN I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE VOTING RIGHTS BILL THAT PASSED THE HOUSE FACES AN UNCERTAIN FUTURE AND THE CRITICISM IS VOTING IS LEFT UP TO THE STATES TO RUN THEIR ELECTIONS AS THEY SEE FIT.
WOULD THIS BE FEDERALIZING ELECTIONS?
>> IT'S NOT.
I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE FILIBUSTER THAT DOES NOT FRAME IT AS IF THAT IS THE NORMAL COURSE.
HR1 THE VOTING RIGHTS BILL IS THE MOST SIGNIFICANT PRO-DEMOCRACY BILL OUT THERE.
THIS IS ABOUT REFORMING OUR CAMPAIGNS AND GETTING RID OF GERRYMANDERING, MAKING THE VOTING DAY A NATIONAL HOLIDAY.
WE HAVE ALWAYS FEDERALIZED ELECTION LAW OUR STATES IN THE COUNTRY THAT HAVE A HABIT OF DISENFRANCHISING ESPECIALLY PEOPLE OF COLOR.
AND THE CHALLENGE WE HAVE IS THAT THE 20 SMALLEST STATES IN THE COUNTRY REPRESENT 10% OF THE POPULATION.
IT IS NOT NORMAL COURSE OF BUSINESS IT'S NOT AUTHORITARIAN SAYING WE ARE GOING TO ALLOW LAWS THAT ARE DESIGNED TO PROTECT THE WILL OF THE MAJORITY TO BE BLOCKED BY SUCH A PEOPLE WHO REPRESENT A TINY MINORITY OF THE POPULATION.
>> CONGRESSMAN WE ARE OUT OF TIME.
I NEED TO GIVE RODNEY DAVIS A FEW SECONDS.
>> FIRST OFF, I LISTENED TO MY CONSTITUENTS AND MY CONSTITUENTS ARE THE ONES WHO WANT ME TO VOTE HOW I HAVE BEEN CASTING MY VOTE IN WASHINGTON.
THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT IS NOT A VOTING RIGHT ACT BILL WITH WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING IN THE COUNTRY TO DRIVE TURNOUT.
THE BILL HR1 WAS A BILL TO ENRICH THEIR POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS BY 7.2 MILLION FOR ELECTION CYCLE.
NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS.
>> I HAVE TO LEAVE IT THERE.
THANKS TO REPRESENTATIVES DANNY DAVIS, SEAN CASTEN, RODNEY DAVIS AND MARIE NEWMAN THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.
HOPE TO HAVE YOU BACK SOON.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> AND NOW BRANDIS WE GO BACK TO YOU.
>> PARIS, A NEW REPORT SAYS ANTI-ASIAN HATE CRIMES IN 16 OF AMERICA'S LARGEST CITIES INCREASED BY NEARLY 150% IN 2020 COMPARED TO THE PREVIOUS YEAR THAT REPORT BY THE CENTER FOR THE STUDY OF HATE AND EXTREMISM AT CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY SAN BERN LOOKED AT -- SAN BERNADINO, IT SHOWED SPIKES REPORTED IN 2020 DURING MARCH AND APRIL.
THE RACIAL STEREOTYPING AND VIOLENCE FOLLOWED DISINFORMATION TIED TO THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC.
NOW LOCAL EFFORTS ARE UNDERWAY TO MOTIVATE OTHERS TO STEP IN AGAINST DISCRIMINATION.
JOINING US ARE ANDY KANG EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE NONPROFIT ASIAN-AMERICAN ADVANCING JUSTICE CHICAGO.
PROFESSOR BRIAN LEVIN AT CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY SAN BERNADINO.
AND TAMER ABOUZEID, STAFF ATTORNEY OF CAIR CHICAGO A NONPROFIT MUSLIM CIVIL RIGHTS ORGANIZATION.
THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR QOINING US TONIGHT.
BRIAN LEVIN LET'S START WITH YOU.
YOUR CENTER SURVEYED POLICE DEPARTMENTS IN MAJOR CITIES AND FOUND AN OVERALL INCREASE IN ANTI-ASIAN HATE CRIMES IN 2020.
WHAT DO YOU SEE IS BEHIND THIS INCREASE?
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME AND A GREAT QUESTION.
THERE ARE TWO THINGS BEHIND IT.
WE'VE SEEN THIS HAPPEN AGAIN AND AGAIN.
ONE IS A CATALYTIC EVENT OR SET OF INCREMENTAL ONES THAT IDENTIFY A CERTAIN GROUP AS LEGITIMATE TARGETS FOR AGGRESSION.
AND HERE IS THE THING AND WE'VE SEEN THIS OVER THE LAST DECADE IN PARTICULAR.
ONCE WE HAVE THAT DRIED KINDLING HOW A PRESIDENT RESPONDS TO THIS CONDITION MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE.
WE SAW HATE CRIMES DECLINE AFTER PRESIDENT BUSH SPOKED HORRIBLY ABOUT MUSLIMS SIX DAYS AFTER 9/11 AND WITH THE TERROR ATTACK IN SAN BERNADINO, ABOVE THE LEVEL OF HATE CRIME WHEN [INAUDIBLE] I THINK IT IS A COMBINATION OF TWO THINGS.
ONE A CATALYTIC EVENT AND THEN HOW PEOPLE OF GOODWILL AND LEADERS RESPOND.
BECAUSE THERE'S STEREOTYPES AND CON CONSPIRACICISM WRAPPED IN THIS AND WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE PUT A FIRE HOSE ON IT NOT ACCELERANT.
>> ANDY KANG ON A LOCAL COMMUNITY LEVEL HERE HOW DOES THE PANDEMIC PLAY INTO WHAT IS HAPPENING WHAT YOU ARE SEEING?
>> BRIAN IS RIGHT AND WE HAVE SEEN A INCREASE IN REPORTED HATE INCIDENTS AND I USE THE WORD INCIDENTS BECAUSE NOT EVERY TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCE RISES TO THE LEVEL OF A HATE CRIME BUT IT'S HARMFUL TO THE COMMUNITY MEMBER.
WE'VE SEEN OVER THE LAST YEAR, 80 REPORTED INCIDENTS IN ILLINOIS.
CERTAINLY PUTS US IN THE TOP 10 A COMBINATION OF HATE INCIDENTS REPORTED BOTH BY ADVANCING JUST HEY READ AND A SUCCESSFUL CALIFORNIA BASED ONE STOP HATE.
AND WE COMBINE THE NUMBERS WE KNOW THIS IS HAPPENING IN ILLINOIS.
MAYBE NOT TO THE LEVEL OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY.
AND SO WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE BEEN PARTNERING WITH CAIR CHICAGO AND THE COMMERCE ORGANIZATION AND THE NEW YORK BASED ORGANIZATION TO BRING ORDER BYSTANDER INTERVENTION TRAININGS.
EASY TO USE DEESCALATION TACTICS THAT ANYONE CAN USE WHEN THEY SEE SOMEONE BEING HARASSED.
>> I WANT TO COME BACK TO SOME OF THAT TRAINING THAT YOU MENTIONED AS WELL.
ANDY, HAVE YOU OR ANYONE YOU'VE KNOWN EXPERIENCED ANY ANTI-ASIAN SENTIMENT?
>> YEAH, UNFORTUNATELY, I LEARNED THAT MY AUNT WHO ACTUALLY LIVES IN LOS ANGELES IN KOREA TOWN WAS ATTACKED AND HAD ROCKS THROWN AT HER.
A COUSIN LIVING IN ILLINOIS AND CHICAGO ON THE ROAD IN MISSOURI AND HAD ANOTHER DRIVER WAVE A GUN AT HIM.
IT'S REAL AND PERSONAL FOR MOST OF US IN THE ASIAN COMMUNITY WE KNOW SOMEONE WHO HAS GONE THROUGH THIS EVENING R EXPERIENCE AND SOMETHING WE CANNOT TOLERATE AND WE ARE INVITING OTHERS TO JOIN US IN STANDING AGAINST IT.
>> THAT IS DISTURBING TO HEAR.
TAMPER, WE'VE -- TEENAGER.
>> TAMER, IS THIS REMINISCENT OF WHAT WE SAW FOLLOWING 9/11?
>> ABSOLUTELY IT SOUNDED FAMILIAR TO MUSLIM PLERNS WHEN WOO HE HEARD WHAT WAS HAPPENING TO THE ASIAN-AMERICANS IN THE U.S. YOU WAKE UP AND YOU'VE BEEN MORE OF AN OUTSIDER, AN ENEMY, YOUR NEIGHBOR MAY HAVE TURNED AGAINST YOU PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT YOU IN SUSPICIOUS WAYS THINGS THAT THE MUSLIM COMMUNITY SAW ON SEPTEMBER 11th AND THIS WAS A NATURAL THINGS TO JOIN US WITH ASIAN-AMERICANS ADVANCING JUSTICE BECAUSE WE HAVE LEARNED AND WE HAVE ALL HAVE THINGS TO SHARE AND THERE'S GOOD NEWS AND BAD NEWS.
THE GOOD NEWS IS WE HAVE MORE RESOURCES RAO RIGHT NOW AND LEARNED FROM WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST AND THE BAD NEWS IS IT DOESN'T DISAPPEAR.
BUT IT CAN GET BETTER AND WE CAN DEAL WITH IT BETTER AND CAN TEACH FOLKS HOW TO DEAL WITH IT.
AND JUST DO THE BEST WE CAN.
>> AND TAMER, DISCUSS THE SCOPE OF THE INTOLERANCE THAT ASIANS MAY HAVE SEEN FROM MICRO AGGRESSIONS TO OUT RIGHT VIOLENCE?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
YEAH AND THAT IS SOMETHING REALLY IMPORTANT.
SOMETIMES PEOPLE THINK OF THE STUFF THAT GETS YOU AT A LEVEL LIKE SOMEBODY GETTING BEATEN UP.
BUT IT CAN BE SOMETHING AS LITTLE AS PEOPLE STARING AT YOU.
AND PEOPLE SPITTING IN YOUR DIRECTION.
PEOPLE ASKING YOU WHERE ARE YOU REALLY FROM?
JOKES EVEN PEOPLE MAKE JOKES AND THEY THINK IT'S JUST A JOKE DON'T BE SO SERIOUS ABOUT IT BUT ALL THE LITTLE THING BUILD.
AND THE TRAINING IS THAT THESE THINGS ARE NOT ISOLATED AND THEY OFTEN BUILDUP WHERE IT STARTS WITH ONE THING THAT MIGHT SEEM LIKE A LESSER FORM OF DISRESPECT AND OFTEN IT GROWS AND GROWS AND SOMETIMES CEMENTS ITSELF IN POLICY WHERE WE END UP PASSING LAWS THAT ARE DISCRIMINATORY AGAINST COMMUNITIES.
>> ANDY, BRIEFLY THE IMPORTANCE OF BYSTANDER TRAINING?
A LOT OF FOLKS MAY BE A BYSTANDER AND DON'T KNOW HOW TO RESPOND?
>> AND THAT IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO OVERCOME.
FOLKS FREEZING IN THE MOMENT THEY WANT TO HELP BUT THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY CAN DO THAT WOULDN'T MAKE A SITUATION WORSE WE ARE NOT ASKING PEOPLE TO PUT THEMSELVES IN HARM.
WE WANT TO GIVE AS MUCH INFORMATION TO PEOPLE SO THAT THEY ARE NOTRE DAME CATHEDRAL MOTIVATED AND EQUIPPED TO DO WHAT THEY CAN TO MITIGATE SOME OF THE REALLY TERRIBLE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY.
>> AND BRIAN LEVIN 20 SECONDS LEFT.
WHEN THE OFFICIAL HATE CRIME F.B.I.
DATA COMES OUT, DO YOU EXPECT TO SEE AN INCREASE IN THE HATE CRIME INCIDENTS?
>> WE'RE TOTALLY THE QUESTION IS NOT WHETHER WE ARE GOING TO SEE AN INCREASE.
THIS IS AN HISTORIC ONE AND WE STAND WITH OUR ASIAN TRENDS AND NEIGHBORS.
THE BIG QUESTION IS OF THE ONES WE'VE CLASSIFIED JUST AS CRIMES, ARE THEY GETTING REPORTED TO POLICE?
AND IF THE MAJORITY DO, WE ARE NOT ONLY GOING TO SEE A PROBABLE CENTURY HIGH WE MAY EVEN SEE AN ALL-TIME HIGH FOR F.B.I.
REPORTED HATE CRIMES.
THE RECORD WAS IN 96 AND THIS IS GOING TO BE A PIVOTAL YEAR.
HATE CRIMES ARE DOWN ATTACKS AGAINST ASIAN PEOPLE ARE UP AT HISTORIC LEVELS.
>> UNFORTUNATELY THAT MEANS WE WILL HAVE TO DISCUSS THIS INTO THE FUTURE.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US ANDY KANG AND BRIAN LEVIN AND TAMER ABOUZEID THANK YOU.
>> UP NEXT, THE PROS AND CONS OF A CASHLESS SOCIETY.
BUT FIRST, A LOOK AT THE WEATHER.
THE ILLINOIS TOLLWAY WILL NO LONGER ACCEPT CASH TOLLS MAKING PERMANENT A CHANGE IT ROLLED OUT EARLY IN THE PANDEMIC.
THE SYSTEM SAYS THE VAST MAJORITY OF DRIVERS USE I PASS OR EZ PASS TO PAY AND IT IS EXPANDING A PROGRAM TO HELP LOW INCOME PEOPLE THEY TOLLS WOULD.
LOWER INCOME PEOPLE AND PEOPLE OF COLOR BE SHUTOUT FROM THE ECONOMY?
OR DO CASH FREE TRANSACTIONS BENEFIT BUSINESSES AND CONSUMERS?
JOINING US IS HORACIO MENDEZ C.E.O.
OF THE WOODSTOCK INSTITUTE THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY ARE THE PROBLEMS WITH HANDLING CASH?
COSTS TO BUSINESSES AND SAFETY CONCERNS?
>> WELL THERE IS A HIGH COST RUNNING A INFRASTRUCTURE BEHIND THE CASH ECONOMY, ARMORED TRUCKS, CLOSING DRAWERS, YOU GET THE IDEA.
ACCORDING TO RECENT RESEARCH CASH COSTS ON AVERAGE ABOUT 9% OF CASH RECEIVED.
YOU COMPARE THAT TO THE COST OF A CASHLESS TRANSACTION THERE IS A DIFFERENT BUT DEPENDING ON THE TRANSACTION ITSELF.
>> WHAT WOULD YOU SAY HOW WOULD YOU COMPARE OR QUANTIFY THAT?
>> WELL, YOU'VE GOT THE TWO OWNERSES IN THE SPACE.
VISA AND MASTER CARD WHO CAN CHARGE OF 3.5% AND 15 CENTS PER TRANSACTION.
IF YOU HAVE THAT FEE STRUCTURE ON A SMALL PURCHASE LET'S SAY A $5 CUP OF COFFEE.
3.5 AND 15 CENTS THAT IS A 6, 7% COST.
TYPICALLY THE COFFEE SHOP PAYS THAT BUT IT GETS ADDED TO YOUR PRODUCT.
AND SINCE MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE PAYING CASHLESS, WE ARE A PAYING FOR IT REGARDLESS WHICH METHOD YOU USE.
IT MIGHT BE FASTER AND MIGHT NOT ALWAYS BE DHEPPER BUT WE ARE ALREADY PAYING FOR IT.
>> WHY MIGHT SOME BUSINESSES MAYBE THEY WOULD WANT TO GO CASH ONLY?
>> LIKE I SAID CASH ONLY?
>> WELL, THAT IS AGAIN CASH ONLY HAS A HIGHER COST ASSOCIATED WITH IT REGARDING WITH THE TIMES YOUR EMPLOYEES WILL BE MANAGING CASH AND THE TIME YOU HAVE TO SPEND TO SECURE IT, COUNT IT, TO DEPOSIT IT.
THERE ARE A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT EXTRA SERVICES THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR ASSOCIATED WITH HANDLING CASH.
>> SO IT'S ESTIMATED THAT 30% OF AMERICANS DON'T HAVE A CREDIT CARD AND THAT SEVEN MILLION HOUSEHOLDS IN THE U.S. ARE UNBANKED MORE LIKELY TO BE LOWER INCOME AND LESS EDUCATED AND PEOPLE OF COLOR.
CHICAGO TRIED AND PHASED OUT A PROGRAM THAT LET UNBANKED PEOPLE LOAD MONEY ON TO TRANSIT CARDS.
DO YOU THINK GOVERNMENTS HAVE A ROLE IN HELPING UNBANKED PEOPLE ACCESS THE CASHLESS ECONOMY?
>> I THINK THERE IS A ROLE FOR THE LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO PLAY AT GIVING THOSE ACCESS TO THE CASHLESS SOCIETY BY NEGOTIATING WITH BANKS AND CREDIT CARD SERVICE PROVIDERS THAT MIRRORS HOW MANY PEOPLE MANAGE AND USE CREDIT CARDS.
REMEMBER THAT ONLY TOUCHES A SEGMENT OF THE POPULATION THAT IS NOT GOING TO TOUCH ALL 30% OF THE FOLKS THAT DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO CREDIT CARDS.
THE 7% OF ILLINOISANS WHO DO NOT HAVE ANY RELATIONSHIP WITH A FINANCIAL INSTITUTION, IN 23% OF THOSE ARE BLACK HOUSEHOLDS.
14% OF THEM ARE LATINO.
2% ARE WHITE.
AND THE MAP ON THESE THINGS ALWAYS ARE THE SAME.
IT'S FAMILY WEALTH, HEALTH OUTCOMES, ACCESS TO BANKING, EDUCATIONAL OUTCOMES, WHITE SOX VERSUS CUBS THE MAP SHOWS THE SAME DISPARITIES IT ENDS UP BEING THE HEADER THAT CHANGES.
>> ARE THERE SOME PEOPLE WHO WOULD NOT WANT TO GO CASHLESS?
CITING PRIVACY CONCERNS?
>> NO, ABSOLUTELY.
IF YOU THINK PEOPLE ARE FREAKING OUT ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS TELLING US TO WEAR A MASK OR ALEXA IS LISTENING TO EVERY CONVERSATION HOW DO YOU THINK WE WILL FEEL ABOUT TWO FOR-PROFIT COMPANIES KNOWING YOUR EVERY MOVE AND PURCHASE.
LET'S SAY THE EXECUTIVES OF MASTER CARD AND VISA DECIDE THEY HATE BIRDS AND BLOCKED ALL DONATIONS TO THE AUDUBON SOCIETY THERE GOES THE AUDUBON SOCIETY AND THAT IS ILLEGAL RIGHT NOW.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT ALTERNATIVE THEN YOU NEED TO START TIGHTENING UP A LOT OF RULES AND MAKING SURE THAT THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES DO NOT ALWAYS FALL ON THE LOW AND MODERATE INCOME BUT THINK ABOUT THE ROLE OF FINANCIAL SERVICES AND HOW PEOPLE ENGAGE WITH THE ECONOMY.
IT IS SIMILAR TO THE CONVERSATION WE ARE HAVING ABOUT VOTING.
THE EASIER YOU MAKE IT TO VOTE, EARLY, ON-LINE, BY MAIL, ALL THESE OTHER SORTS OF THINGS, IT'S ENGAGING PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SOMETHING THAT IS ESSENTIAL IN THE ECONOMY AND OUR SOCIETY EASY AND ACCESSIBLE ACCORDING TO WHERE PEOPLE ARE.
THE SAME NEEDS TO BE WITH HOW PEOPLE ENGAGE IN THE ECONOMY.
>> ARE WE JUST MARCHING TOWARDS THIS?
IS THIS LIKELY TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE AS BUSINESSES AND GOVERNMENTS LEAN TOWARDS CASHLESS MORE AND MORE?
>> WE ARE ALREADY THERE.
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