>>> THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION ROUNDS FOR HOME AS BUDGET ROUNDS FOR HOME AS BUDGET NEGOTIATIONS RAMP UP IN BOTH NEGOTIATIONS RAMP UP IN BOTH HOUSES.

HOUSES.

>> THESE CHAIRS ARE IN AGREENS >> THESE CHAIRS ARE IN AGREENS ON THE EDUCATION.

ON THE EDUCATION.

THE REST OF THE BUDGET, I DON'T THE REST OF THE BUDGET, I DON'T KNOW.

KNOW.

>> THE PUSH TO KNOW A QUALIFIED >> THE PUSH TO KNOW A QUALIFIED EMT WHETHER ANSWER THE CALL THE EMT WHETHER ANSWER THE CALL THE NEXT TIME YOU HAVE AN EMERGENCY.

NEXT TIME YOU HAVE AN EMERGENCY.

>> WE NEED MORE PEOPLE ON THE >> WE NEED MORE PEOPLE ON THE STREETS.

STREETS.

OUR HEALTHCARE SYSTEM IS OUR HEALTHCARE SYSTEM IS ACTIVELY COLLAPSING AND WE'RE ACTIVELY COLLAPSING AND WE'RE TRYING TO FILL THAT NEED TO GET TRYING TO FILL THAT NEED TO GET MORE STAFF OUT THERE TO HELP MORE STAFF OUT THERE TO HELP WITH THAT.

WITH THAT.

>>> THE BUFFALO ROAM SAYS THE >>> THE BUFFALO ROAM SAYS THE TRIBE IS HONORED FOR ITS TRIBE IS HONORED FOR ITS CONSERVATION EFFORTS.

CONSERVATION EFFORTS.

>> THIS IS HIS TORQUE.

>> THIS IS HIS TORQUE.

EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE -- EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE -- HISTORIC.

HISTORIC.

EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING NOW EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS HISTORIC FOR OUR PEOPLE.

IS HISTORIC FOR OUR PEOPLE.

AND THERE'S NO FEELING LIKE AND THERE'S NO FEELING LIKE THAT.

THAT.

>>> AN ORGANIZATION CALLED SEIZE >>> AN ORGANIZATION CALLED SEIZE THE DAY IS GOING MOBILE TO SERVE THE DAY IS GOING MOBILE TO SERVE UNDERSERVED CHILDREN IN OKLAHOMA UNDERSERVED CHILDREN IN OKLAHOMA CITY.

CITY.

>> SHE'S GOT ON THE BALL.

>> SHE'S GOT ON THE BALL.

AND WE'RE -- WE'RE GONNA DO IT.

AND WE'RE -- WE'RE GONNA DO IT.

SO WE DID IT.

SO WE DID IT.

>>> PLUS, A PANEL OF NEEDED >>> PLUS, A PANEL OF NEEDED OKLAHOMA JOURNALISTS DISCUSS THE OKLAHOMA JOURNALISTS DISCUSS THE ETHICS AND IMPACT OF UNIN ORDER ETHICS AND IMPACT OF UNIN ORDER LEAKS IN AN IN-DEPTH LEAKS IN AN IN-DEPTH CONVERSATION, NEXT ON THE CONVERSATION, NEXT ON THE OKLAHOMA NEWS REPORT.

OKLAHOMA NEWS REPORT.

>>> HELLO, EVERYONE.

>>> HELLO, EVERYONE.

AND WELCOME TO THE OKLAHOMA NEWS AND WELCOME TO THE OKLAHOMA NEWS REPORT.

REPORT.

THE SCHEDULED DEADLINE FOR THE THE SCHEDULED DEADLINE FOR THE END OF THIS YEAR'S SESSION IS END OF THIS YEAR'S SESSION IS FRIDAY, MAY 27th.

FRIDAY, MAY 27th.

TWO WEEKS FROM NOW.

TWO WEEKS FROM NOW.

LAWMAKERS WOULD CERTAINLY PREFER LAWMAKERS WOULD CERTAINLY PREFER TO REACH A BUDGET AGREEMENT TO REACH A BUDGET AGREEMENT PRIOR TO THAT.

PRIOR TO THAT.

BUT IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET.

BUT IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET.

JOINING US NOW WITH MORE DETAILS JOINING US NOW WITH MORE DETAILS IN THE CAPITAL, REPORTER JASON IN THE CAPITAL, REPORTER JASON DOYLE.

DOYLE.

>> DESPITE PASSING DIDN'T -- >> DESPITE PASSING DIDN'T -- DOZENS OF BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS, DOZENS OF BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS, THIS IS NOT THE CONSTITUTIONAL THIS IS NOT THE CONSTITUTIONAL MANDATE FOR LAWMAKERS.

MANDATE FOR LAWMAKERS.

IT'S THE BUDGET.

IT'S THE BUDGET.

AND THIS YEAR THEY HAVE MORE TO AND THIS YEAR THEY HAVE MORE TO SPEND THAN EVER BEFORE.

SPEND THAN EVER BEFORE.

THE LEGISLATURE HAS UP TO THE LEGISLATURE HAS UP TO $10.3 BILLION TO APPROPRIATE $10.3 BILLION TO APPROPRIATE THIS YEAR AND WHILE NEGOTIATIONS THIS YEAR AND WHILE NEGOTIATIONS ARE STILL BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, ARE STILL BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, AS OF THURSDAY A MAJOR PART OF AS OF THURSDAY A MAJOR PART OF THE BUDGET HAS BEEN RESOLVED.

THE BUDGET HAS BEEN RESOLVED.

EDUCATION SPENDING.

EDUCATION SPENDING.

>> MY SENATE COUNTERPART AND I >> MY SENATE COUNTERPART AND I ARE IN AGREEIANCE AND I THINK ARE IN AGREEIANCE AND I THINK THE -- CHAIRMAN OF BOTH A AND B THE -- CHAIRMAN OF BOTH A AND B CHAIRS ARE IN AGRANS ON THE CHAIRS ARE IN AGRANS ON THE EDUCATION.

EDUCATION.

THE REST OF THE BUDGET, I DON'T THE REST OF THE BUDGET, I DON'T KNOW, BUT ON EDUCATION WE'RE KNOW, BUT ON EDUCATION WE'RE PRETTY MUCH DONE.

PRETTY MUCH DONE.

>> THEY'RE EXPECTED TO BE >> THEY'RE EXPECTED TO BE INCREASED BETWEEN 80 TO $90 IN INCREASED BETWEEN 80 TO $90 IN THE NEXT BUDGET.

THE NEXT BUDGET.

AS FAR AS -- $90 MILLION IN THE AS FAR AS -- $90 MILLION IN THE NEXT BUDGET.

NEXT BUDGET.

MCBRIDE SAYS IT'S TEACHERS.

MCBRIDE SAYS IT'S TEACHERS.

>> MY SUPERINTENDENT ASKED ME OR >> MY SUPERINTENDENT ASKED ME OR I ASKED HIM WHAT TO YOU NEED AND I ASKED HIM WHAT TO YOU NEED AND HE SAID I -- I DON'T NEED HE SAID I -- I DON'T NEED ANYTHING.

ANYTHING.

HE SAID I NEED TEACHERS.

HE SAID I NEED TEACHERS.

I NEED TEACHERS TO FEEL I NEED TEACHERS TO FEEL APPRECIATED AND KEEP THESE APPRECIATED AND KEEP THESE TEACHERS FROM RETIRING.

TEACHERS FROM RETIRING.

>> MCBRIDE SAYS BUDGET >> MCBRIDE SAYS BUDGET NEGOTIATORS HAVE GREED TO FUND A NEGOTIATORS HAVE GREED TO FUND A PROGRAM HELPING FUTURE TEACHERS PROGRAM HELPING FUTURE TEACHERS PAY FOR THEIR COLLEGE EDUCATION.

PAY FOR THEIR COLLEGE EDUCATION.

>> IT'S A RECRUITING TOOL FOR >> IT'S A RECRUITING TOOL FOR SENIORS IN HIGH SCHOOL, TO -- OR SENIORS IN HIGH SCHOOL, TO -- OR JUNIORS, YOU KNOW, AS THEY LOOK JUNIORS, YOU KNOW, AS THEY LOOK FOR CAREER PATH, THEY WANT TO FOR CAREER PATH, THEY WANT TO CHOOSE EDUCATION.

CHOOSE EDUCATION.

IT'S NOT GEARED WHAT NORMAL IT'S NOT GEARED WHAT NORMAL SCHOLARSHIPS ARE GEARED FOR, IS SCHOLARSHIPS ARE GEARED FOR, IS MATH AND SCIENCE ONLY.

MATH AND SCIENCE ONLY.

THIS ONE OPENS IT UP, IF YOU THIS ONE OPENS IT UP, IF YOU WANT TO BE A COACH, IF YOU WANT WANT TO BE A COACH, IF YOU WANT TO BE A HISTORY TEACHER.

TO BE A HISTORY TEACHER.

>> THE PLAN IS TO GIVE FUTURE >> THE PLAN IS TO GIVE FUTURE TEACHERS A THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR TEACHERS A THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR EACH OF THE FIRST THREE YEARS OF EACH OF THE FIRST THREE YEARS OF COLLEGE.

COLLEGE.

2500 FOR THE FOURTH YEAR, AND 2500 FOR THE FOURTH YEAR, AND ONCE A TEACHER HAS GRADUATED AND ONCE A TEACHER HAS GRADUATED AND HAS A CONTRACT TO TEACH, THEY HAS A CONTRACT TO TEACH, THEY WILL RECEIVE $4,000 EACH YEAR WILL RECEIVE $4,000 EACH YEAR OVER THREE MORE YEARS.

OVER THREE MORE YEARS.

WHILE THE INCENTIVE AND WHILE THE INCENTIVE AND INCREASED APPROPRIATIONS FOR INCREASED APPROPRIATIONS FOR OTHER PROGRAMS ARE GOOD, SENATE OTHER PROGRAMS ARE GOOD, SENATE DEMOCRATS DON'T THINK IT'S DEMOCRATS DON'T THINK IT'S ENOUGH.

ENOUGH.

>> A LOT OF FACULTY AND STAFF >> A LOT OF FACULTY AND STAFF HAVE BEEN -- RECENTLY HAVE BEEN HAVE BEEN -- RECENTLY HAVE BEEN GIVEN A 3% RAISE, WHICH IS GIVEN A 3% RAISE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY WITH INFLATION, IS NOT ACTUALLY WITH INFLATION, IS NOT A RAISE.

A RAISE.

>> THEY HOPE THE BUDGET >> THEY HOPE THE BUDGET NORTHBOUNDORIES WILL FIND A -- NORTHBOUNDORIES WILL FIND A -- BUDGET NEGOTIATORS WILL FIND A BUDGET NEGOTIATORS WILL FIND A WAY.

WAY.

>> WITH OUR SURROUNDING STATES >> WITH OUR SURROUNDING STATES AND OUR COMPETITORS, THAT'S WHAT AND OUR COMPETITORS, THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE FOR US TO IT'S GOING TO TAKE FOR US TO BE -- MAKE GAINS IN OUR BE -- MAKE GAINS IN OUR EDUCATION OUTCOMES COMPARED TO EDUCATION OUTCOMES COMPARED TO ANOTHER STATES.

ANOTHER STATES.

>> MCBRIDE SAYS GETTING TEACHERS >> MCBRIDE SAYS GETTING TEACHERS MORE MONEY MIGHT BE SOMETHING MORE MONEY MIGHT BE SOMETHING FOR THE NEXT BUDGET.

FOR THE NEXT BUDGET.

>> MY NEXT FOCUS WOULD PROBABLY >> MY NEXT FOCUS WOULD PROBABLY BE IN THE COMING YEAR TO LOOK AT BE IN THE COMING YEAR TO LOOK AT DOING A TEACHER PAY RAISE.

DOING A TEACHER PAY RAISE.

I TRIED TO DO A STIPEND, BUT IT I TRIED TO DO A STIPEND, BUT IT DIDN'T MAKE IT THROUGH THE GATE.

DIDN'T MAKE IT THROUGH THE GATE.

>> WHILE THINGS ARE PRETTY MUCH >> WHILE THINGS ARE PRETTY MUCH SETTLED FOR EDUCATION SPENDING, SETTLED FOR EDUCATION SPENDING, THAT STILL LEAVES THE REST OF THAT STILL LEAVES THE REST OF THE STATE BUDGET.

THE STATE BUDGET.

>> APPROPRIATIONS BUDGET >> APPROPRIATIONS BUDGET CONTINUES.

CONTINUES.

THERE'S STILL DISCUSSION WITH THERE'S STILL DISCUSSION WITH ANA FUN WHICH IS NOW PART OF THE ANA FUN WHICH IS NOW PART OF THE BUDGET AND APPROPRIATIONS -- BUDGET AND APPROPRIATIONS -- ARPA MONEY WHICH IS NOW PART OF ARPA MONEY WHICH IS NOW PART OF THE BUDGET AND PROTECTION -- THE BUDGET AND PROTECTION -- APPROPRIATIONS.

APPROPRIATIONS.

>> SHE'S NOT PRIVY TO THEM.

>> SHE'S NOT PRIVY TO THEM.

>> THE HOUSE WANTS ONE THING.

>> THE HOUSE WANTS ONE THING.

THE SENATE WANTS ANOTHER.

THE SENATE WANTS ANOTHER.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF MEETINGS SO THERE'S A LOT OF MEETINGS GOING ON THAT WE'RE NOT PRIVY GOING ON THAT WE'RE NOT PRIVY TO.

TO.

SAME SONG.

SAME SONG.

WE'RE JUST NOT AT THE TABLE.

WE'RE JUST NOT AT THE TABLE.

I WAS HOPEFUL THIS SESSION IT I WAS HOPEFUL THIS SESSION IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT, THAT WE'D BE WOULD BE DIFFERENT, THAT WE'D BE INCLUDED IN THE DISCUSSIONS BUT INCLUDED IN THE DISCUSSIONS BUT THAT HASN'T HAPPENED.

THAT HASN'T HAPPENED.

>> WHAT FLOYD BELIEVES SHOULD >> WHAT FLOYD BELIEVES SHOULD NOT BE HOLDING UP NEGOTIATIONS NOT BE HOLDING UP NEGOTIATIONS IS TAX CUTS.

IS TAX CUTS.

>> WE SHOULD NOT BE CUTTING >> WE SHOULD NOT BE CUTTING TAXES.

TAXES.

IN ANY BUDGET.

IN ANY BUDGET.

WE HAVE GOT MORE MUFFIN THAN WE HAVE GOT MORE MUFFIN THAN WE'VE HAD IN A LONG -- MONEY WE'VE HAD IN A LONG -- MONEY THAN WE'VE HAD IN A LONG TIME.

THAN WE'VE HAD IN A LONG TIME.

WE HAVE THE SURPLUS AND FLAT WE HAVE THE SURPLUS AND FLAT BUDGETS AND IT'S HARD TO MAKE BUDGETS AND IT'S HARD TO MAKE THE TWO BALANCE OUT.

THE TWO BALANCE OUT.

>> WE KNOW THAT TAX CUTS WILL >> WE KNOW THAT TAX CUTS WILL HURT DOWN THE ROAD.

HURT DOWN THE ROAD.

WE HAVE YET TO SEE ALL THE WE HAVE YET TO SEE ALL THE LOSSES FROM LAST YEAR'S TAX LOSSES FROM LAST YEAR'S TAX CUTS.

CUTS.

AND I THINK WE'RE SETTING UP AND I THINK WE'RE SETTING UP SOME INSTABILITY.

SOME INSTABILITY.

>> SHE UNDERSTANDS THE ROBES >> SHE UNDERSTANDS THE ROBES BEHIND A POSSIBLE TAX CUT, BUT BEHIND A POSSIBLE TAX CUT, BUT DOESN'T BELIEVE IT WILL MAKE A DOESN'T BELIEVE IT WILL MAKE A TRUE IMPACT ON OKLAHOMA TRUE IMPACT ON OKLAHOMA FAMILIES' POCKETBOOK ISSUES.

FAMILIES' POCKETBOOK ISSUES.

>> IF QUEER LOOKING AT RELIEF >> IF QUEER LOOKING AT RELIEF FOR PEOPLE, GIVE -- IF WE'RE FOR PEOPLE, GIVE -- IF WE'RE LOOKING AT RELIEF FOR PEOPLE, LOOKING AT RELIEF FOR PEOPLE, PROBABLY GIVING A $0 TO $100 IS PROBABLY GIVING A $0 TO $100 IS NOT WHAT WE NEED TO BE FOCUSED NOT WHAT WE NEED TO BE FOCUSED UP.

UP.

WE NEED TO SHORE UP OUR SERVICES WE NEED TO SHORE UP OUR SERVICES THAT HELP THE LONG-TERM FOR OUR THAT HELP THE LONG-TERM FOR OUR COMMUNITIES.

COMMUNITIES.

>> FLOYD IS CONCERNED THAT >> FLOYD IS CONCERNED THAT RECENT ALLEGATIONS OF MISSPENT RECENT ALLEGATIONS OF MISSPENT MONEY COULD IMPACT HOW THE MONEY COULD IMPACT HOW THE BUDGET IS BEING CRAFTED.

BUDGET IS BEING CRAFTED.

>> I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT SO >> I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT SO MANY NEW STORIES WE'RE HEARING MANY NEW STORIES WE'RE HEARING RIGHT NOW, THE BRIDGE, THE GAP, RIGHT NOW, THE BRIDGE, THE GAP, DIGITAL WALLET PROGRAM, DIGITAL WALLET PROGRAM, $8 MILLION WAS SPENT.

$8 MILLION WAS SPENT.

WE'VE GOT THE SWADLY SITUATION WE'VE GOT THE SWADLY SITUATION WITH TOURISM AND OUR STATE WITH TOURISM AND OUR STATE PARKS.

PARKS.

OVER AND OVER AGAIN WE'RE SEEING OVER AND OVER AGAIN WE'RE SEEING THE GOVERNOR'S APPOINTEES AND THE GOVERNOR'S APPOINTEES AND THE CHANGES THAT THIS GOVERNOR THE CHANGES THAT THIS GOVERNOR HAS MADE JUST NOT WORKING.

HAS MADE JUST NOT WORKING.

WE LACKED ACCOUNTABILITY.

WE LACKED ACCOUNTABILITY.

WE'VE LOOKED TRANS -- WE'VE LOOKED TRANS -- TRANSBRAINS.

TRANSBRAINS.

>> SHE SAYS IT'S -- >> SHE SAYS IT'S -- TRANSPARENCY.

TRANSPARENCY.

>> SHE SAYS IT'S THE -- >> SHE SAYS IT'S THE -- >> THAT'S ONE OF THE NICE THINGS >> THAT'S ONE OF THE NICE THINGS I CAN REMEMBER IN SWAIRCH-18 -- I CAN REMEMBER IN SWAIRCH-18 -- 2017-18 WITH THE HUGE, HUGE 2017-18 WITH THE HUGE, HUGE DEFICITS AND IT WAS OBVIOUS DEFICITS AND IT WAS OBVIOUS TIEMPS DID NEED A PAY RAISE, YOU TIEMPS DID NEED A PAY RAISE, YOU KNOW.

KNOW.

WE HAD CUT AGENCIES TO THE BONE.

WE HAD CUT AGENCIES TO THE BONE.

>> WHILE THE BUDGET WILL BE THE >> WHILE THE BUDGET WILL BE THE MAJOR FOCUS FOR THE REST OF THE MAJOR FOCUS FOR THE REST OF THE SESSION, POLICY ISSUES COULD SESSION, POLICY ISSUES COULD STILL BE TAKEN UP INCLUDING STILL BE TAKEN UP INCLUDING SETTING A BATHROOM POLICY FOR SETTING A BATHROOM POLICY FOR PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

RICH?

RICH?

>> JASON, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> JASON, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>>> AND AS ALWAYS, OUR TEAM >>> AND AS ALWAYS, OUR TEAM COVERAGE OF THE 58th SESSION COVERAGE OF THE 58th SESSION WRAPS UP WITH SOME Q & A WITH WRAPS UP WITH SOME Q & A WITH PUBLISHER SEAN ASHLEY.

PUBLISHER SEAN ASHLEY.

THE HOUSE SPECIAL INVESTIGATIVE THE HOUSE SPECIAL INVESTIGATIVE COMMITTEE THAT'S LOOKING INTO COMMITTEE THAT'S LOOKING INTO THAT STATE CONTRACT WITH THAT STATE CONTRACT WITH SWADLY'S MET FOR THE FIRST TIME SWADLY'S MET FOR THE FIRST TIME ON THURSDAY AND IT GOT ON THURSDAY AND IT GOT INTERESTING.

INTERESTING.

>> IT CERTAINLY WAS.

>> IT CERTAINLY WAS.

WHAT WE HEARD LARGELY WAS A WHAT WE HEARD LARGELY WAS A PREVIEW OF THE LEGISLATIVE PREVIEW OF THE LEGISLATIVE OFFICE OF FISCAL TRANSPARENCY'S OFFICE OF FISCAL TRANSPARENCY'S REPORT ON THE OKLAHOMA TOURISM REPORT ON THE OKLAHOMA TOURISM AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT FOCUSING ON THE SWADLY'S FOCUSING ON THE SWADLY'S CONTRACT.

CONTRACT.

THE DIRECTOR POINTED OUT THAT THE DIRECTOR POINTED OUT THAT HAD THE CONTRACT NOT CHANGED HAD THE CONTRACT NOT CHANGED FROM ITS ORIGINAL VERSION TO FROM ITS ORIGINAL VERSION TO IT'S SECOND AMENDED VERSION, THE IT'S SECOND AMENDED VERSION, THE STATE LIKELY WOULD HAVE SAVED STATE LIKELY WOULD HAVE SAVED ABOUT $12.4 MILLION OF TAXPAYER ABOUT $12.4 MILLION OF TAXPAYER MONEY.

MONEY.

>> THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

>> THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

>> THAT IS.

>> THAT IS.

>> HOUSE DEMOCRATS SAY THE >> HOUSE DEMOCRATS SAY THE GOVERNOR SHOULD ASK FOR THE GOVERNOR SHOULD ASK FOR THE RESIGNATION OF THE SECRETARY OF RESIGNATION OF THE SECRETARY OF EDUCATION.

EDUCATION.

WHAT DO THEY WANT?

WHAT DO THEY WANT?

>> WELL, WHAT THEY'RE HOPING FOR >> WELL, WHAT THEY'RE HOPING FOR IS THAT RYAN WALTERS WILL RESIGN IS THAT RYAN WALTERS WILL RESIGN FROM HIS OFFICE.

FROM HIS OFFICE.

NOW, HE WAS INVOLVED IN THE NOW, HE WAS INVOLVED IN THE OVERSIGHT OF THE GEAR MONEY.

OVERSIGHT OF THE GEAR MONEY.

THIS WAS MONEY RELATED TO THE THIS WAS MONEY RELATED TO THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC THAT THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SENT DOWN TO FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SENT DOWN TO STATES TO HELP WITH EDUCATION IN STATES TO HELP WITH EDUCATION IN PARTICULAR.

PARTICULAR.

ACCORDING TO A REPORT FROM THE ACCORDING TO A REPORT FROM THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, U.S. DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, THE STATE DID NOT DO A GOOD JOB THE STATE DID NOT DO A GOOD JOB IN HANDLING THAT MONEY.

IN HANDLING THAT MONEY.

IN EACH OF THE FOUR AREAS OF IN EACH OF THE FOUR AREAS OF GRADING THAT THE FEDERAL GRADING THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT LOOKED AT, THE STATE GOVERNMENT LOOKED AT, THE STATE RECEIVED THE LOWEST RATING RECEIVED THE LOWEST RATING POSITION.

POSITION.

AND I POINT TO SECRETARY AND I POINT TO SECRETARY WALTERS' INVOLVEMENT IN THAT AS WALTERS' INVOLVEMENT IN THAT AS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT HE IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT HE IS RESIGNATION SHOULD BE SOUGHT.

RESIGNATION SHOULD BE SOUGHT.

>> THE ONGOING BUDGET >> THE ONGOING BUDGET NEGOTIATIONS, SOME BILLS' GOT NEGOTIATIONS, SOME BILLS' GOT SIGNED INTO LAW.

SIGNED INTO LAW.

SHARE A COUPLE OF THOSE.

SHARE A COUPLE OF THOSE.

>> I THINK MEDICAL MARIJUANA IS >> I THINK MEDICAL MARIJUANA IS A BIG ISSUE FOR LAWMAKERS THIS A BIG ISSUE FOR LAWMAKERS THIS YEAR.

YEAR.

AND WE SAW TWO IMPORTANT BILLS AND WE SAW TWO IMPORTANT BILLS IN THAT ARENA.

IN THAT ARENA.

ONE SENATE 1543 WILL MAKE THE ONE SENATE 1543 WILL MAKE THE OKLAHOMA MEDICAL MARIJUANA OKLAHOMA MEDICAL MARIJUANA AUTHORITY A STAND-ALONE AGENCY.

AUTHORITY A STAND-ALONE AGENCY.

CURRENTLY IT IS ENGUYSED WITHIN CURRENTLY IT IS ENGUYSED WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT-- ENCASED WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT-- ENCASED WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.

THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.

THE PROVOST -- PROPONENTS SAYS THE PROVOST -- PROPONENTS SAYS IT WILL MAKE IT EASIER TO DO IT WILL MAKE IT EASIER TO DO THEIR JOB IN REGULATING THE THEIR JOB IN REGULATING THE INDUSTRY.

INDUSTRY.

THE OTHER BILL, 3530, PROVIDE THE OTHER BILL, 3530, PROVIDE GRANTS TO SHAFERS -- SHERIFFS TO GRANTS TO SHAFERS -- SHERIFFS TO ASSIST THE AUTHORITY IN SEEKING ASSIST THE AUTHORITY IN SEEKING BAD ACTORS IN THE MEDICAL BAD ACTORS IN THE MEDICAL MARIJUANA INDUSTRY.

MARIJUANA INDUSTRY.

>> ON THE FLIP SIDE T GOLFER >> ON THE FLIP SIDE T GOLFER VETO -- GOVERNOR VETOED A BILL VETO -- GOVERNOR VETOED A BILL THAT HAD PASSED.

THAT HAD PASSED.

>> 3501 WAS A LAW ENFORCEMENT, >> 3501 WAS A LAW ENFORCEMENT, PUBLIC SAFETY MEASURE, IT WOULD PUBLIC SAFETY MEASURE, IT WOULD HAVE REQUIRED THE DEPARTMENT OF HAVE REQUIRED THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY TO RECOGNIZE PUBLIC SAFETY TO RECOGNIZE TRAFFIC CITATIONS AND OTHER TRAFFIC CITATIONS AND OTHER VIOLATIONS -- THAT CAME OUT OF VIOLATIONS -- THAT CAME OUT OF TRIBAL COURTS.

TRIBAL COURTS.

AND OFF RESERVATIONS.

AND OFF RESERVATIONS.

HOWEVER, THE GOVERNOR CALLED THE HOWEVER, THE GOVERNOR CALLED THE BILL A WOLF IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING.

BILL A WOLF IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING.

AND SAID IT WOULD UNDERMINE THE AND SAID IT WOULD UNDERMINE THE STATE'S AUTHORITY.

STATE'S AUTHORITY.

THEREFORE, HE VETOED THE BILL.

THEREFORE, HE VETOED THE BILL.

>> THERE ARE TWO WEEKS LEFT IN >> THERE ARE TWO WEEKS LEFT IN THE SESSION.

THE SESSION.

DO YOU THINK THEY'LL WRAP UP DO YOU THINK THEY'LL WRAP UP THINGS EARLY?

THINGS EARLY?

>> LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE HEADED >> LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE HEADED THAT QUAY BUT YOU NEVER KNOW THAT QUAY BUT YOU NEVER KNOW UNTIL THE GAVEL FALLS.

UNTIL THE GAVEL FALLS.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> YOU'RE VERY WELCOME.

>> YOU'RE VERY WELCOME.

>>> IT WAS THE SECOND BIGGEST >>> IT WAS THE SECOND BIGGEST STORY TO COME OUT OF THE STORY TO COME OUT OF THE ANONYMOUS LEAK OF A SUPREME ANONYMOUS LEAK OF A SUPREME COURT DRAFT CALLING FOR COURT DRAFT CALLING FOR REVERSEAF OF ROE V. WADE.

REVERSEAF OF ROE V. WADE.

-- REVERTSAL OF ROE V. WADE.

-- REVERTSAL OF ROE V. WADE.

A DISTINGUISHED PANEL OF A DISTINGUISHED PANEL OF JOURNALISTS WILL TAKE PART IN JOURNALISTS WILL TAKE PART IN OUR IN-DEPTH SEGMENTS OF OUR IN-DEPTH SEGMENTS OF HIGH-PROFILE LEAKS.

HIGH-PROFILE LEAKS.

>> BUT ONE THING YOU NEVER HEARD >> BUT ONE THING YOU NEVER HEARD ABOUT OR I EVER RECEIVED WAS A ABOUT OR I EVER RECEIVED WAS A LEAK FROM THE SUPREME COURT.

LEAK FROM THE SUPREME COURT.

I MEAN, THEY WEREN'T PART OF MY I MEAN, THEY WEREN'T PART OF MY BEAT.

BEAT.

BUT I KNOW PLENTY OF REPORTERS BUT I KNOW PLENTY OF REPORTERS WHO COVER THE COURT AND THIS IS WHO COVER THE COURT AND THIS IS UNPRECEDENTED.

UNPRECEDENTED.

IT IS HUGE.

IT IS HUGE.

>> ALWAYS ONE OF OUR MAIN >> ALWAYS ONE OF OUR MAIN CONSIDERATIONS IS FIGURING OUT CONSIDERATIONS IS FIGURING OUT HOW TO REPORT ON THE -- WHATEVER HOW TO REPORT ON THE -- WHATEVER IT IS, EPLACE OR DOCUMENTS -- IT IS, EPLACE OR DOCUMENTS -- EMAILS OR DOCUMENTS, WHATEVER WE EMAILS OR DOCUMENTS, WHATEVER WE GET, WHILE ALSO DOING AWAY THAT GET, WHILE ALSO DOING AWAY THAT PROTECTS THE IDENTITY OF THE PROTECTS THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON WHO HAS GIVEN THE PERSON WHO HAS GIVEN THE DOCUMENTS TO US AND BECAUSE THEY DOCUMENTS TO US AND BECAUSE THEY CAN FACE RETALIATION.

CAN FACE RETALIATION.

>> IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE >> IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE PERSON'S IDENTITY, ACCURACY IS PERSON'S IDENTITY, ACCURACY IS OUR FIRST PRIORITY.

OUR FIRST PRIORITY.

CAN WE VERIFY THAT THE CAN WE VERIFY THAT THE INFORMATION WE'RE RECEIVING IS INFORMATION WE'RE RECEIVING IS ACCURATE AND TRUTHFUL.

ACCURATE AND TRUTHFUL.

AND THEN THE NEXT QUESTION IS, AND THEN THE NEXT QUESTION IS, DOES IT SERVE THE PUBLIC FOR US DOES IT SERVE THE PUBLIC FOR US TO TELL THIS STORY, TO PUT THIS TO TELL THIS STORY, TO PUT THIS INFORMATION OUT.

INFORMATION OUT.

>> A THOUGHT-PROVOKING >> A THOUGHT-PROVOKING CONVERSATION YOU DON'T WANT TO CONVERSATION YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS COMING UP.

MISS COMING UP.

>>> BUT FIRST, OKLAHOMA HAS JUST >>> BUT FIRST, OKLAHOMA HAS JUST ABOUT EVERY KIND OF WORKER ABOUT EVERY KIND OF WORKER SHRNLG YOU CAN IMAGINE RIGHT SHRNLG YOU CAN IMAGINE RIGHT NOW.

NOW.

-- SHORTAGE YOU CAN MANG RIGHT -- SHORTAGE YOU CAN MANG RIGHT NOW.

NOW.

YOU NAME IT AND WE NEED MORE OF YOU NAME IT AND WE NEED MORE OF THEM, INCLUDING EMTs.

THEM, INCLUDING EMTs.

EMERGENCY MED TECHNICIANS WENT EMERGENCY MED TECHNICIANS WENT DON'T HAVE A SHORTAGE OF DON'T HAVE A SHORTAGE OF REPORTER STEVE SHAW WHO IS REPORTER STEVE SHAW WHO IS TELLING US WHAT NEEDS TO BE TELLING US WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

DONE.

>> RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN MAKE A >> RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN MAKE A HIGHER HOURLY WAGE WORKING AT A HIGHER HOURLY WAGE WORKING AT A CONVENIENCE STORE THAN A CONVENIENCE STORE THAN A LICENSED EMT.

LICENSED EMT.

IN MANY PLACES AROUND THE SOONER IN MANY PLACES AROUND THE SOONER STATE.

STATE.

>> WE GOT TO TIE THIS DOWN.

>> WE GOT TO TIE THIS DOWN.

>> A FEW MONTHS AGO, CHRIS >> A FEW MONTHS AGO, CHRIS PRESSMAN WAS WORKING RETAIL PRESSMAN WAS WORKING RETAIL SALES IN OKLAHOMA CITY.

SALES IN OKLAHOMA CITY.

>> I'VE GOT AN EYE ON IT.

>> I'VE GOT AN EYE ON IT.

SO IF YOU COME AROUND.

SO IF YOU COME AROUND.

>> THEN HE FOLLOWED HIS HEART >> THEN HE FOLLOWED HIS HEART AND SIGNED UP FOR THE EMERGENCY AND SIGNED UP FOR THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES AUTHORITY, OR MEDICAL SERVICES AUTHORITY, OR EMSES, NEW ACCELERATED EMERGENCY EMSES, NEW ACCELERATED EMERGENCY MEDICAL TRAINING WHICH LASTS 122 MEDICAL TRAINING WHICH LASTS 122 TO 14 WEEKS.

TO 14 WEEKS.

IT SUPPLIES EMS SERVICE TO TULSA IT SUPPLIES EMS SERVICE TO TULSA AND OKLAHOMA CITY.

AND OKLAHOMA CITY.

>> YOU GET TO CONTACT SO MANY >> YOU GET TO CONTACT SO MANY PEOPLE AND AFFECT SO MANY PEOPLE AND AFFECT SO MANY PEOPLE'S LIVES.

PEOPLE'S LIVES.

AND THAT'S WHAT I KIND OF ENJOY AND THAT'S WHAT I KIND OF ENJOY ABOUT IT.

ABOUT IT.

>> THE DECIDING FACTOR THAT >> THE DECIDING FACTOR THAT PROPELLED HIM FROM RETAIL TO PROPELLED HIM FROM RETAIL TO THIS NEW CAREER IS PRETTY THIS NEW CAREER IS PRETTY SIMPLE.

SIMPLE.

NEXT WEEK AS PART OF NATIONAL NEXT WEEK AS PART OF NATIONAL EMS WEEK, EMSA WILL ANNOUNCE FOR EMS WEEK, EMSA WILL ANNOUNCE FOR THE FIRST TIME THEY'RE NOT ONLY THE FIRST TIME THEY'RE NOT ONLY OFFERING AN IN-HOUSE EMT OFFERING AN IN-HOUSE EMT TRAINING PROGRAM.

TRAINING PROGRAM.

EMSA IS NOW ALSO PAYING THE EMSA IS NOW ALSO PAYING THE CHRIS PRESSMANS OF THE WORLD $13 CHRIS PRESSMANS OF THE WORLD $13 AN HOUR TO DO IT.

AN HOUR TO DO IT.

>> YEAH, A BIG DECIDING FACTOR >> YEAH, A BIG DECIDING FACTOR WAS THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO PAY YOU WAS THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO PAY YOU WHILE COMING TO SCHOOL.

WHILE COMING TO SCHOOL.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'M FORTUNATE YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'M FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO COME TO ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO COME TO THIS PROGRAM AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS PROGRAM AND I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO IT I WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO IT WITHOUT THEM BEING ABLE TO WITHOUT THEM BEING ABLE TO FINANCIALLY SUPPORT ME THROUGH FINANCIALLY SUPPORT ME THROUGH THIS EDUCATION PROCESS.

THIS EDUCATION PROCESS.

>> LET ME THROW SOME NUMBERS AT >> LET ME THROW SOME NUMBERS AT YOU THAT ARE OMINOUS IF NOT YOU THAT ARE OMINOUS IF NOT STUNNING.

STUNNING.

ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF EMTs, IN 2020 ASSOCIATION OF EMTs, IN 2020 THERE WERE 58,000 NEWLY THERE WERE 58,000 NEWLY CERTIFIED EMTs.

CERTIFIED EMTs.

AND 9,000 NEWLY SER VID AND 9,000 NEWLY SER VID PARAMEDICS -- CERTIFIED PARAMEDICS -- CERTIFIED PARAMEDICS IN THE U.S. PARAMEDICS IN THE U.S. ONE YEAR LATER THERE WERE ONLY ONE YEAR LATER THERE WERE ONLY 4200 NEWLY CERTIFIED EMTs AND 4200 NEWLY CERTIFIED EMTs AND A PALTRY 470 NEWLY TRAINED A PALTRY 470 NEWLY TRAINED PARAMEDICS NATIONWIDE.

PARAMEDICS NATIONWIDE.

THERE'S ONE CATCH TO EMSA PAYING THERE'S ONE CATCH TO EMSA PAYING EMTs TO TRAIN.

EMTs TO TRAIN.

IN RETURN, THOSE TRAINEES HAVE IN RETURN, THOSE TRAINEES HAVE TO SIGN A PRACTICE TO WORK FOR TO SIGN A PRACTICE TO WORK FOR EMSA FOR 18 MONTHS ONCE THEY'RE EMSA FOR 18 MONTHS ONCE THEY'RE CERTIFIED.

CERTIFIED.

>> WE ARE PUTTING OUR FAITH >> WE ARE PUTTING OUR FAITH BEHIND THEIR DESIRE TO BE AN EMT BEHIND THEIR DESIRE TO BE AN EMT TO HELP OUR PATIENTS, TO BE A -- TO HELP OUR PATIENTS, TO BE A -- YOU KNOW, FIRST RESPONDER IN OUR YOU KNOW, FIRST RESPONDER IN OUR COMMUNITY.

COMMUNITY.

SO WE THINK IT'S ONLY FAIR THAT SO WE THINK IT'S ONLY FAIR THAT YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A MUTUAL YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A MUTUAL BENEFICIAL PARTNERSHIP AS WE PUT BENEFICIAL PARTNERSHIP AS WE PUT THEM THROUGH EMT SCHOOL.

THEM THROUGH EMT SCHOOL.

>> SPOKESMAN ADAM SAYS STARTING >> SPOKESMAN ADAM SAYS STARTING EMSA EMTs MAKE AROUND $14 AN EMSA EMTs MAKE AROUND $14 AN HOUR.

HOUR.

THEIR EMTs WORK FOR -- FOUR THEIR EMTs WORK FOR -- FOUR 12-HOUR SHIFTS A WEEK.

12-HOUR SHIFTS A WEEK.

WHICH MEANS EIGHT HOURS OF WHICH MEANS EIGHT HOURS OF OVERTIME PAY IS BUILT IN.

OVERTIME PAY IS BUILT IN.

AND THERE ARE OTHER AND THERE ARE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR OVERTIME PAY OPPORTUNITIES FOR OVERTIME PAY AS WELL.

AS WELL.

HE BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING HE BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING RIGHT NOW IS THEY JUST NEED MORE RIGHT NOW IS THEY JUST NEED MORE PEOPLE, WITH THE PASSION TO DO PEOPLE, WITH THE PASSION TO DO THIS.

THIS.

>> THEY'VE HAD LONG SHIFTS.

>> THEY'VE HAD LONG SHIFTS.

LATE CALLS.

LATE CALLS.

IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS AN O IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS AN O TO TRY WHENEVER WE CAN TO TO TRY WHENEVER WE CAN TO INCREASE OUR NUMBERS SO THAT OUR INCREASE OUR NUMBERS SO THAT OUR EMTs AND PARAMEDICS CAN FEEL EMTs AND PARAMEDICS CAN FEEL SOME OF THEIR LOAD LIGHTENED.

SOME OF THEIR LOAD LIGHTENED.

THAT'S WHY WE LEAVE NO STONE THAT'S WHY WE LEAVE NO STONE UNTURNED.

UNTURNED.

WE'RE DOING DIGIT REKRUGER.

WE'RE DOING DIGIT REKRUGER.

WE'RE HAVING OUR RECRUITERS GO WE'RE HAVING OUR RECRUITERS GO TO SCHOOLS IN TEXAS, AND OTHER TO SCHOOLS IN TEXAS, AND OTHER STATES.

STATES.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING SOCIAL THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING SOCIAL MEDIA ADS.

MEDIA ADS.

WE'VE NEVER DONE THEM BUT WE'RE WE'VE NEVER DONE THEM BUT WE'RE MEETING PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE.

MEETING PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT AN AD IN THE CLASSIFIEDS BECAUSE AN AD IN THE CLASSIFIEDS BECAUSE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO MAKE UP THE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO MAKE UP THE BULK OF NEW HIRES IN EMS AREN'T BULK OF NEW HIRES IN EMS AREN'T READING THE CLASSIFIED ADS.

READING THE CLASSIFIED ADS.

THEY'RE ON TIKTOK OR INSTAGRAM THEY'RE ON TIKTOK OR INSTAGRAM OR TWITTER.

OR TWITTER.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A LOT OF MONEY RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A LOT OF MONEY THAT WE'RE NOT SPENDING THAT IS THAT WE'RE NOT SPENDING THAT IS EARMARKED FOR SALARIES.

EARMARKED FOR SALARIES.

SO WE'D MUCH RATHER INVEST THAT SO WE'D MUCH RATHER INVEST THAT MONEY INTO BUILDING OUR MONEY INTO BUILDING OUR WORKFORCE THAN JUST LET IT SIT WORKFORCE THAN JUST LET IT SIT THERE, PAUSE WE HAVE AN THERE, PAUSE WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO THE CITIZENS AND OBLIGATION TO THE CITIZENS AND THE CITIES WE SERVE AND OUR THE CITIES WE SERVE AND OUR PATIENTS TO MAKE SURE WIRE PATIENTS TO MAKE SURE WIRE STAFFING OUR TRUCKS TO MAKE SURE STAFFING OUR TRUCKS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE OUT AND AVAILABLE.

WE'RE OUT AND AVAILABLE.

>> THERE WE GO.

>> THERE WE GO.

WE JUST GUIDE IT IN.

WE JUST GUIDE IT IN.

>> OVER AT METRO TECH, IN >> OVER AT METRO TECH, IN OKLAHOMA CITY, EMT CANDIDATES OKLAHOMA CITY, EMT CANDIDATES HAVE BEEN TRAINING AT METRO HAVE BEEN TRAINING AT METRO TECH'S SKILLS LAB EVERY SATURDAY TECH'S SKILLS LAB EVERY SATURDAY SINCE EARLY MARCH.

SINCE EARLY MARCH.

>> PUBLIC SERVICE HAS ALWAYS >> PUBLIC SERVICE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PASSION OF MINE AND A BEEN A PASSION OF MINE AND A CAREER GOAL OF MINE.

CAREER GOAL OF MINE.

>> YOU KNOW, AND YOU -- IT >> YOU KNOW, AND YOU -- IT SPEAKS TO YOU.

SPEAKS TO YOU.

>> YES, SIR.

>> YES, SIR.

SO ESPECIALLY IN THE DAY AND AGE SO ESPECIALLY IN THE DAY AND AGE THAT WE LIVE IN RIGHT NOW AND THAT WE LIVE IN RIGHT NOW AND EVERYBODY NEEDING -- YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY NEEDING -- YOU KNOW, HELP AND EVERYBODY HURTING IN HELP AND EVERYBODY HURTING IN SOME WAY, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY SOME WAY, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WITH THE PANDEMIC AND ALL, AND I WITH THE PANDEMIC AND ALL, AND I JUST WANT TO BE THERE AND DO JUST WANT TO BE THERE AND DO WHAT I CAN AND DO MY PART TO WHAT I CAN AND DO MY PART TO BRING HOPE TO THE HURTING.

BRING HOPE TO THE HURTING.

>> THE PAY IS NOT IDEAL.

>> THE PAY IS NOT IDEAL.

BUT SOMETIMES THERE'S DEFINITELY BUT SOMETIMES THERE'S DEFINITELY MORE IMPORTANT THINGS THAN THE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS THAN THE PAY.

PAY.

I MEAN, IT'S A FIELD WHERE YOU I MEAN, IT'S A FIELD WHERE YOU NEED HELP.

NEED HELP.

YOU NEED EMTs.

YOU NEED EMTs.

YOU NEED INTERMEDIATES, YOU NEED INTERMEDIATES, PARAMEDICS.

PARAMEDICS.

AND IT'S A FIELD THAT YOU'VE GOT AND IT'S A FIELD THAT YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE THE HEART FOR IT.

TO HAVE THE HEART FOR IT.

BECAUSE IF YOU -- IF YOU DON'T BECAUSE IF YOU -- IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE HEART FOR IT, YOU'RE HAVE THE HEART FOR IT, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO STAY BECAUSE OF THE NOT GOING TO STAY BECAUSE OF THE PAY.

PAY.

>> WE NEED MORE PEOPLE ON THE >> WE NEED MORE PEOPLE ON THE STRESS.

STRESS.

OUR HEALTHCARE SYSTEM -- OUR HEALTHCARE SYSTEM -- STREETS.

STREETS.

OUR MICHIGAN SYSTEM IS ACTIVELY OUR MICHIGAN SYSTEM IS ACTIVELY COLLAPSING AND WE'RE TRYING TO COLLAPSING AND WE'RE TRYING TO FILL THAT NEED TO GET MORE STAFF FILL THAT NEED TO GET MORE STAFF OUT THERE.

OUT THERE.

>> METRO TECH HASN'T DONE THIS >> METRO TECH HASN'T DONE THIS CLASS IN 12 YEARS.

CLASS IN 12 YEARS.

GUT THE NEED DICTATES THEY HAD GUT THE NEED DICTATES THEY HAD TO DO IT -- TO DO IT AGAIN.

TO DO IT -- TO DO IT AGAIN.

>> THOSE IN THE CLASSES COST >> THOSE IN THE CLASSES COST $800, WHICH WORKFORCE $800, WHICH WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR JASON DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR JASON LANGFORD SAYS IS ABOUT HALF WHAT LANGFORD SAYS IS ABOUT HALF WHAT OTHER PROGRAMS COST.

OTHER PROGRAMS COST.

AND HE SAYS IF YOU'RE A MILITARY AND HE SAYS IF YOU'RE A MILITARY VETERAN, YOU GET THIS TRAINING VETERAN, YOU GET THIS TRAINING FOR FREE.

FOR FREE.

>> WE USED TO STAFF >> WE USED TO STAFF PARAMEDICS -- OR AMBULANCES WITH PARAMEDICS -- OR AMBULANCES WITH A PARAMEDIC AND EMT.

A PARAMEDIC AND EMT.

NOW MOST AMBULANCES IN THE NOW MOST AMBULANCES IN THE STATE, EVEN IN THE METRO, ARE STATE, EVEN IN THE METRO, ARE SOMETIMES STAFFED WITH TWO SOMETIMES STAFFED WITH TWO EMTs.

EMTs.

BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PARAMEDICS TO STAFF EVERY PARAMEDICS TO STAFF EVERY AMBULANCE.

AMBULANCE.

>> BILL WORDEN IS MEDICAL >> BILL WORDEN IS MEDICAL DIRECTOR AT THE LOGAN COUNTY DIRECTOR AT THE LOGAN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

AS WELL AS 115 OTHER RURAL AS WELL AS 115 OTHER RURAL HEALTHCARE AGENCIES ACROSS THE HEALTHCARE AGENCIES ACROSS THE SOONER STATE.

SOONER STATE.

BESIDES THE RECENT PANDEMIC, HE BESIDES THE RECENT PANDEMIC, HE SAYS A KEY FACTOR DRIVING OUR SAYS A KEY FACTOR DRIVING OUR CURRENT PREDICAMENT IS THAT CURRENT PREDICAMENT IS THAT MEDICARE AND INSURANCE MEDICARE AND INSURANCE REIMBURSEMENT OVER THE YEARS HAS REIMBURSEMENT OVER THE YEARS HAS DECLINED.

DECLINED.

>> IT'S MULTI-FACT TORL FOR SURE >> IT'S MULTI-FACT TORL FOR SURE AND IT'S SOMETHING I THINK THAT AND IT'S SOMETHING I THINK THAT ALL OF US NEED TO WORK WITH WITH ALL OF US NEED TO WORK WITH WITH NOT ONLY OUR STATE LEGISLATORS NOT ONLY OUR STATE LEGISLATORS BUT OUR CONGRESS AND SENATE TO BUT OUR CONGRESS AND SENATE TO INCREASE REIMBURSEMENT WITH THE INCREASE REIMBURSEMENT WITH THE FEDERAL PROGRAMS AND OUR FEDERAL PROGRAMS AND OUR INSURANCE COMPANIES TO MAKE SURE INSURANCE COMPANIES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE PAYING THE PREMIUMS THAT THEY'RE PAYING THE PREMIUMS THAT YOU AS A CONSUMER ARE THAT YOU AS A CONSUMER ARE PAYING NEEDS TO BE USED FOR PAYING NEEDS TO BE USED FOR HEALTHCARE, NOT THE STOCK MARKET HEALTHCARE, NOT THE STOCK MARKET OR INVESTORS OR THE C.E.O.s.

OR INVESTORS OR THE C.E.O.s.

THAT MONEY NEEDS TO FUNNEL THAT MONEY NEEDS TO FUNNEL THROUGH AND GO BACK TO THE THROUGH AND GO BACK TO THE PROVIDERS THAT ARE PROVIDING PROVIDERS THAT ARE PROVIDING HEALTHCARE THAT YOU PAID FOR AND HEALTHCARE THAT YOU PAID FOR AND EXPECTED.

EXPECTED.

>> FROM WHAT I GATHERED, >> FROM WHAT I GATHERED, PARAMEDICS GENERALLY MAKE AROUND PARAMEDICS GENERALLY MAKE AROUND $10 AN HOUR MORE THAN EMTs IN $10 AN HOUR MORE THAN EMTs IN OKLAHOMA.

OKLAHOMA.

BUT THEY ALSO UNDERGO AT LEAST BUT THEY ALSO UNDERGO AT LEAST 10 MONTHS MORE OF TRAINING.

10 MONTHS MORE OF TRAINING.

RICH?

RICH?

>> STEVE, THANKS.

>> STEVE, THANKS.

>>> THE DOLLY PARTON IMAGES >>> THE DOLLY PARTON IMAGES LIBRARY PROGRAM IS ONE OF THE LIBRARY PROGRAM IS ONE OF THE LARGEST CHILDHOOD BOOK GIFTING LARGEST CHILDHOOD BOOK GIFTING PROGRAMS IN THE WORLD.

PROGRAMS IN THE WORLD.

MORE THAN 178 MILLION BOOKS MORE THAN 178 MILLION BOOKS DISTRIBUTED SENDS -- SINCE ITS DISTRIBUTED SENDS -- SINCE ITS CREATION IN 1995.

CREATION IN 1995.

TUESDAY IN OKLAHOMA CITY JOY TUESDAY IN OKLAHOMA CITY JOY HOFFMEISTER ANNOUNCING THAT THE HOFFMEISTER ANNOUNCING THAT THE OKLAHOMA DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION OKLAHOMA DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION WILL INVEST $2 1/2 MILLION IN WILL INVEST $2 1/2 MILLION IN FEDERAL RELIEF FUNDS TO EXPAND FEDERAL RELIEF FUNDS TO EXPAND THE IMAGINATION LIBRARY TO ALL THE IMAGINATION LIBRARY TO ALL 77 COUNTIES.

77 COUNTIES.

THEY'RE SHIPPED DIRECTLY TO THE THEY'RE SHIPPED DIRECTLY TO THE CHILDREN'S HOMES.

CHILDREN'S HOMES.

>> PRIMARY BENEFIT IS TO GET >> PRIMARY BENEFIT IS TO GET BOOKS INTO THE HOMES.

BOOKS INTO THE HOMES.

WE KNOW THAT NOTHING IS MORE WE KNOW THAT NOTHING IS MORE BASIC, MORE ESSENTIAL, MORE BASIC, MORE ESSENTIAL, MORE FOUNDATIONAL THAN A CHILD'S FOUNDATIONAL THAN A CHILD'S ABILITY TO RATE.

ABILITY TO RATE.

SETS THEM UP -- TO RATE.

SETS THEM UP -- TO RATE.

SETS THEM UP -- TO READ.

SETS THEM UP -- TO READ.

SETS THEM UP FOR SEC SAYS.

SETS THEM UP FOR SEC SAYS.

WE CANNOT WAIT TO KINDERGARTEN WE CANNOT WAIT TO KINDERGARTEN FOR CHILDREN TO HAVE ACCESS AND FOR CHILDREN TO HAVE ACCESS AND EXPOSURE TO BOOKS.

EXPOSURE TO BOOKS.

AND LEARNING.

AND LEARNING.

>> OKAY FAMILIES SIMPLY SIGN UP >> OKAY FAMILIES SIMPLY SIGN UP THEIR CHILD.

THEIR CHILD.

ANY NEWBOSH, TO -- NEWBORN TO 5 ANY NEWBOSH, TO -- NEWBORN TO 5 YEAR OLDER, AND THAT CHILD WILL YEAR OLDER, AND THAT CHILD WILL RECEIVE A HIGH RECEIVE A HIGH QUALITY-AGE-APPROPRIATE BOOK IN QUALITY-AGE-APPROPRIATE BOOK IN THE MAIL EVERY SINGLE MONTH AT THE MAIL EVERY SINGLE MONTH AT NO COST.

NO COST.

>> HUFFMEISTER, WHO IS SEEKING >> HUFFMEISTER, WHO IS SEEKING NOMINATION FOR GOVERNOR S ALSO A NOMINATION FOR GOVERNOR S ALSO A MEMBER OF THE OETA BOARD.

MEMBER OF THE OETA BOARD.

>>> AN OG&E POSITIVE ENERGY >>> AN OG&E POSITIVE ENERGY SCHOLARSHIP WAS PRESENTED IN A SCHOLARSHIP WAS PRESENTED IN A SURPRISE ANNOUNCEMENT AT THE SURPRISE ANNOUNCEMENT AT THE SCHOOL ON WEDNESDAY.

SCHOOL ON WEDNESDAY.

>> THE THOUSAND DOLLAR COLLEGE >> THE THOUSAND DOLLAR COLLEGE SCHOLARSHIP.

SCHOLARSHIP.

[CHEERING] [CHEERING] [CHEERING] [CHEERING] >> AGREEIANA AND HER FAMILY HAD >> AGREEIANA AND HER FAMILY HAD NO IDEA SHE WAS ABOUT TO RECEIVE NO IDEA SHE WAS ABOUT TO RECEIVE A SCHOLARSHIP WORTH $60,000 OVER A SCHOLARSHIP WORTH $60,000 OVER FOUR YEARS TO COVER DIVISION, FOUR YEARS TO COVER DIVISION, BOOKS, AND ROOM AND BOARD ON THE BOOKS, AND ROOM AND BOARD ON THE COLLEGE OF HER CHOICE.

COLLEGE OF HER CHOICE.

>> AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT WAS >> AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT WAS ADRIANA'S CLASSROOM AND THE ADRIANA'S CLASSROOM AND THE COMMUNITY THAT SHOWS HER COMMUNITY THAT SHOWS HER DEDICATION TO MAKING A DEDICATION TO MAKING A DIFFERENCE.

DIFFERENCE.

CONGRATULATIONS.

CONGRATULATIONS.

WE ARE EXCITED TO HONOR YOU AS WE ARE EXCITED TO HONOR YOU AS ONE OF OG&E'S POSITIVE ENERGY ONE OF OG&E'S POSITIVE ENERGY SCHOLARSHIP RECIPIENTS.

SCHOLARSHIP RECIPIENTS.

>> AND SHE WILL BE PURSUING AN >> AND SHE WILL BE PURSUING AN ENGINEERING DEGREE AT OKLAHOMA ENGINEERING DEGREE AT OKLAHOMA STATE UNIVERSITY OUT OF MORE STATE UNIVERSITY OUT OF MORE THAN 300 APPLICANTS, SHE IS ONE THAN 300 APPLICANTS, SHE IS ONE OF THREE OG&E SCHOLARSHIP OF THREE OG&E SCHOLARSHIP WINNERS.

WINNERS.

>>> EDUCATION IS VERY MUCH ON >>> EDUCATION IS VERY MUCH ON THE MINDS OF COMMUNITY LEADERS THE MINDS OF COMMUNITY LEADERS ON THE EAST SIDE OF OKLAHOMA ON THE EAST SIDE OF OKLAHOMA CITY AS WELL.

CITY AS WELL.

AND THEY'VE GOT SOME INNOVATIVE AND THEY'VE GOT SOME INNOVATIVE IDEAS THEY'RE TAKING MOBILE.

IDEAS THEY'RE TAKING MOBILE.

TAYLOR JACKSON JOINS US MORE TAYLOR JACKSON JOINS US MORE WITH SEIZE THE DAY.

WITH SEIZE THE DAY.

>> SEIZE THE DAY AND A MOBILE >> SEIZE THE DAY AND A MOBILE LIBRARY THAT SPENDS THEIR DAY LIBRARY THAT SPENDS THEIR DAY TRAVELING BETWEEN EDMOND AND TRAVELING BETWEEN EDMOND AND NORTHEAST OKLAHOMA CITY.

NORTHEAST OKLAHOMA CITY.

BUT THE IMPACT IN THE COMMUNITY BUT THE IMPACT IN THE COMMUNITY INVOLVES MORE THAN JUST BOOKS.

INVOLVES MORE THAN JUST BOOKS.

>> ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO REACH >> ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO REACH OUR COMMUNITY.

OUR COMMUNITY.

>> KARLISIA THOMPSON AND HER >> KARLISIA THOMPSON AND HER SISTERS FOUNDED SEIZE THE DAY.

SISTERS FOUNDED SEIZE THE DAY.

SHE SAID THE MOBILE LIBRARY SHE SAID THE MOBILE LIBRARY INSPIRED THEM TO CREATE ONE IN INSPIRED THEM TO CREATE ONE IN OKLAHOMA.

OKLAHOMA.

>> THEY WOULD ALLOW US TO CHECK >> THEY WOULD ALLOW US TO CHECK OUT BOOKS.

OUT BOOKS.

THEY WOULD GIVE US LIKE A SAFE THEY WOULD GIVE US LIKE A SAFE SPACE TO BE.

SPACE TO BE.

SO WHEN WE GREW UP, MY SISTERS SO WHEN WE GREW UP, MY SISTERS THOUGHT WE HAVE TO DO THAT.

THOUGHT WE HAVE TO DO THAT.

LIKE -- WE SHOULD DO THAT FOR LIKE -- WE SHOULD DO THAT FOR US.

US.

>> THOUGH THE PANDEMIC DELAYED >> THOUGH THE PANDEMIC DELAYED THEIR PLANS, THE SISTERS MANAGED THEIR PLANS, THE SISTERS MANAGED TO FIND AND CONVERT AN OLD TO FIND AND CONVERT AN OLD SCHOOL BUS AS THEIR NEW MOBILE SCHOOL BUS AS THEIR NEW MOBILE LIBRARY.

LIBRARY.

>> MY OTHER SISTER, SHE GOT ON >> MY OTHER SISTER, SHE GOT ON THE BALL AND SHE'S LIKE, WE CAN THE BALL AND SHE'S LIKE, WE CAN GET A BUS AND WE'RE GONNA DO IT.

GET A BUS AND WE'RE GONNA DO IT.

SO WE DID IT.

SO WE DID IT.

>> SEIZE THE DAY RECEIVED NEARLY >> SEIZE THE DAY RECEIVED NEARLY $62,000 WORTH OF WIRELESS HOT $62,000 WORTH OF WIRELESS HOT SPOTS FROM U.S. SELL UAR HAS SPOTS FROM U.S. SELL UAR HAS PART OF -- CELLULAR AS PART OF PART OF -- CELLULAR AS PART OF THE PANDEMIC.

THE PANDEMIC.

>> THERE ARE 35% OF PEOPLE >> THERE ARE 35% OF PEOPLE LIVING WITHOUT ACCESS TO MOBILE LIVING WITHOUT ACCESS TO MOBILE HOT SPOTS AND BROBD BAND -- HOT SPOTS AND BROBD BAND -- BROADBAND.

BROADBAND.

>> JOHNSON SAYS THE PROGRAM WAS >> JOHNSON SAYS THE PROGRAM WAS MADE TO SUPPORT EDUCATIONAL MADE TO SUPPORT EDUCATIONAL NEEDS.

NEEDS.

>> AFTER-SCHOOL PROGRAMS AND >> AFTER-SCHOOL PROGRAMS AND NONPROFITS WHO TAKE CARE AND NONPROFITS WHO TAKE CARE AND SUPPORT OUR YOUTH AND GIVE THEM SUPPORT OUR YOUTH AND GIVE THEM ACCESS TO SAFE INTERNET AND ACCESS TO SAFE INTERNET AND HOMEWORK OPTIONS.

HOMEWORK OPTIONS.

SEIZE THE DAY MOBILE LIBRARY WAS SEIZE THE DAY MOBILE LIBRARY WAS A GREAT FIT.

A GREAT FIT.

>> AND THOMPSON AND HER SISTERS >> AND THOMPSON AND HER SISTERS ARE MORE THAN GRATEFUL.

ARE MORE THAN GRATEFUL.

>> THIS WHOLE DONATION WAS SUCH >> THIS WHOLE DONATION WAS SUCH A HUGE BLESSING BECAUSE IT A HUGE BLESSING BECAUSE IT TOUCHES SO MANY DIFFERENT PEOPLE TOUCHES SO MANY DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND SO MANY FAMILIES.

AND SO MANY FAMILIES.

HOT SPOTS WILL BE USED FOR THE HOT SPOTS WILL BE USED FOR THE SUMMER PROGRAMS AS WELL.

SUMMER PROGRAMS AS WELL.

SO IT'S MOGGING -- MAKING SUCH A SO IT'S MOGGING -- MAKING SUCH A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

HUGE DIFFERENCE.

>> IT'S REALLY GOOD FOR THE >> IT'S REALLY GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY AND IT GETS OTHER COMMUNITY AND IT GETS OTHER PARENTS INVOLVED.

PARENTS INVOLVED.

>> GUARDIAN BEVERLY SAYS THE HOT >> GUARDIAN BEVERLY SAYS THE HOT SPOTS HELP PARENTS WHO CAN'T SPOTS HELP PARENTS WHO CAN'T AFFORD THE INTERNET GIVE THEIR AFFORD THE INTERNET GIVE THEIR CHILDREN THE ACCESS THEY NEED.

CHILDREN THE ACCESS THEY NEED.

>> THEY'RE ABLE TO TAKE THEM >> THEY'RE ABLE TO TAKE THEM WITH THEM AND IF THE CHILDREN WITH THEM AND IF THE CHILDREN HAVE DOCTOR OSAPPOINTMENTS OR HAVE DOCTOR OSAPPOINTMENTS OR THE PARENTS, THEY'RE ABLE TO THE PARENTS, THEY'RE ABLE TO CHECK THEM OUT AND THEY CAN USE CHECK THEM OUT AND THEY CAN USE THEM WHILE THEY'RE ON THE GO SO THEM WHILE THEY'RE ON THE GO SO THE KIDS DON'T MISS THEIR THE KIDS DON'T MISS THEIR SCHOOLWORK.

SCHOOLWORK.

>> THOMPSON SAYS THE BUS CAN BE >> THOMPSON SAYS THE BUS CAN BE FOUND AROUND APARTMENTS AND FOUND AROUND APARTMENTS AND COMMUNITY STERNS -- CENTERS.

COMMUNITY STERNS -- CENTERS.

>> WE ALLOW THE KIDS ON THE BUS.

>> WE ALLOW THE KIDS ON THE BUS.

WE HAVE FOUR COMPUTERS FOR THE WE HAVE FOUR COMPUTERS FOR THE KIDS TO ESCAPE A LITTLE BIT BUT KIDS TO ESCAPE A LITTLE BIT BUT TO DO WORK AS WELL.

TO DO WORK AS WELL.

>> THEY AIR SIS STUDENTS WHO ARE >> THEY AIR SIS STUDENTS WHO ARE HOME SCHOOLED.

HOME SCHOOLED.

>> THEY'RE GETTING A LOT OF >> THEY'RE GETTING A LOT OF OTHER CHILDREN, LIKE THEY'RE OTHER CHILDREN, LIKE THEY'RE AROUND OTHER CHILDREN, INSTEAD AROUND OTHER CHILDREN, INSTEAD OF BEING COOPED UP IN THE HOUSE.

OF BEING COOPED UP IN THE HOUSE.

SO THEY'RE MAKING FRIENDS.

SO THEY'RE MAKING FRIENDS.

>> AFTER SCHOOL THEY ASSIST >> AFTER SCHOOL THEY ASSIST STUDENTS WITH THEIR HOMEWORK.

STUDENTS WITH THEIR HOMEWORK.

>> THEY LIKE COMING DOWN HERE >> THEY LIKE COMING DOWN HERE BECAUSE IT'S MORE LIKE BECAUSE IT'S MORE LIKE ONE-ON-ONE OR THEY'LL HAVE TWO ONE-ON-ONE OR THEY'LL HAVE TWO KIDS AT A TIME THAT THEY TEACH.

KIDS AT A TIME THAT THEY TEACH.

IF THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND, OR IF THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND, OR THEY DON'T LEARN FAST ENOUGH, THEY DON'T LEARN FAST ENOUGH, THEY'LL PULL THEM TO THE SIDE THEY'LL PULL THEM TO THE SIDE AND THEY TEACH THEM AT A LITTLE AND THEY TEACH THEM AT A LITTLE SLOWER PACE.

SLOWER PACE.

>> SEIZE THE DAY OFTEN PARTNERS >> SEIZE THE DAY OFTEN PARTNERS WITH THE NORTHEAST COMMUNITY AND WITH THE NORTHEAST COMMUNITY AND CULTURAL CENTER WHICH HELPS THE CULTURAL CENTER WHICH HELPS THE NORTHEAST SIDE AS WELL.

NORTHEAST SIDE AS WELL.

THE MOBILE LIBRARY HOSTS A THE MOBILE LIBRARY HOSTS A SUMMER PROGRAM WITH THE HELP OF SUMMER PROGRAM WITH THE HELP OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER.

THE COMMUNITY CENTER.

THIS YEAR THE ORGANIZATION HAS THIS YEAR THE ORGANIZATION HAS MORE THAN 40 CHILDREN SIGNED UP MORE THAN 40 CHILDREN SIGNED UP FOR THE PROGRAM.

FOR THE PROGRAM.

>> THERE'S GARDENING, WE OFFER >> THERE'S GARDENING, WE OFFER STEM PROGRAMS, WE'RE -- WE GO ON STEM PROGRAMS, WE'RE -- WE GO ON FILED TRIPS.

FILED TRIPS.

>> THEY LEARN ABOUT GROWING, >> THEY LEARN ABOUT GROWING, WEED EATING, NURTURING, TAKING WEED EATING, NURTURING, TAKING CARE OF THINGS.

CARE OF THINGS.

>> WHEN THE FOOD IS READY TO BE >> WHEN THE FOOD IS READY TO BE PICKED, STEPS HELP WASH AND PICKED, STEPS HELP WASH AND PREPARE THEM.

PREPARE THEM.

STUDENTS EVEN GET TO TAKE HOME STUDENTS EVEN GET TO TAKE HOME THEIR OWN SMALL PLANT.

THEIR OWN SMALL PLANT.

>> AND THE MORE IT GROWS, THEY >> AND THE MORE IT GROWS, THEY GET MORE EXCITED BECAUSE THAT'S GET MORE EXCITED BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE DOING AND SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE DOING AND IT'S THEIRS THEY'RE GROWING.

IT'S THEIRS THEY'RE GROWING.

>> THE NUMBER ONE GOAL HERE IS >> THE NUMBER ONE GOAL HERE IS TO LOVE PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE.

TO LOVE PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE.

>> LORI IS THE FOUNDER OF THE >> LORI IS THE FOUNDER OF THE NORTHEAST COMMUNITY AND CULTURAL NORTHEAST COMMUNITY AND CULTURAL CENTER.

CENTER.

SHE SAYS CURVING -- SERVING THE SHE SAYS CURVING -- SERVING THE YOUTH IN THE COMMUNITY HAS AILES YOUTH IN THE COMMUNITY HAS AILES BEEN -- AS HAULS BEEN IMPORTANT.

BEEN -- AS HAULS BEEN IMPORTANT.

>> WE WORK A LOT WITH THE YOUTH.

>> WE WORK A LOT WITH THE YOUTH.

AT LEAST ONCE A MONTH WE TRY TO AT LEAST ONCE A MONTH WE TRY TO HAVE A FUN ACTIVITY.

HAVE A FUN ACTIVITY.

WE ALSO -- WHEN WE HAVE WE ALSO -- WHEN WE HAVE ACTIVITIES, WE -- RIGHTS OUR ACTIVITIES, WE -- RIGHTS OUR INTENT TO EDUCATIONAL THEM.

INTENT TO EDUCATIONAL THEM.

>> A -- TO EDUCATE THEM.

>> A -- TO EDUCATE THEM.

>> ASIDE FROM WORKING WITH THE >> ASIDE FROM WORKING WITH THE YOUTH, THE COMIEWRN CENTER YOUTH, THE COMIEWRN CENTER PROVIDES FREE MEALS THROUGHOUT PROVIDES FREE MEALS THROUGHOUT THE WEEK.

THE WEEK.

>> WE DO BREAKFAST, LUNCH, AND >> WE DO BREAKFAST, LUNCH, AND WE SERVE DINNER.

WE SERVE DINNER.

IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT A LOT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT KNOW WHERE OF PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT KNOW WHERE THEIR NEXT MEAL IS COMING FROM.

THEIR NEXT MEAL IS COMING FROM.

>> BOTH COMBS AND THOMPSON ENJOY >> BOTH COMBS AND THOMPSON ENJOY WORKING TOGETHER AND SERVING THE WORKING TOGETHER AND SERVING THE COMMUNITY THEY LOVE.

COMMUNITY THEY LOVE.

>> WE'RE ALL BLESSED.

>> WE'RE ALL BLESSED.

WE'RE ALL BLESSED OVER HERE.

WE'RE ALL BLESSED OVER HERE.

AND SO TO TAKE THE GIFTS AND AND SO TO TAKE THE GIFTS AND BLESSINGS AND SHARE WITH OTHERS BLESSINGS AND SHARE WITH OTHERS MEANS A LOT.

MEANS A LOT.

>> BOTH ORGANIZATIONS ARE IN >> BOTH ORGANIZATIONS ARE IN NEED OF VOLUNTEERS AND DONATIONS NEED OF VOLUNTEERS AND DONATIONS OF BOOKS, FOOD, AND CLOTHING OF BOOKS, FOOD, AND CLOTHING THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

RICH?

RICH?

>> TAYLOR, GREAT STORY, THANK >> TAYLOR, GREAT STORY, THANK YOU.

YOU.

>>> THE MASSIVE EVANS BEN TUBE >>> THE MASSIVE EVANS BEN TUBE SITE WILL BE TRANSFORMED INTO A SITE WILL BE TRANSFORMED INTO A MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT BY TEAM MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT BY TEAM ALCHEMY, THE FIRST GROUP CHOSEN ALCHEMY, THE FIRST GROUP CHOSEN THAT INCLUDED PUBLIC INPUT OVER THAT INCLUDED PUBLIC INPUT OVER SEEN BY 15-PERSON STEERING SEEN BY 15-PERSON STEERING COMMITTEE.

COMMITTEE.

THE ABANDONED IRONWORKS SITS THE ABANDONED IRONWORKS SITS ADJACENT TO THE OPEN BMX ADJACENT TO THE OPEN BMX NATIONAL HEADQUARTERS.

NATIONAL HEADQUARTERS.

PHASE ONE INCLUDES A COMBINATION PHASE ONE INCLUDES A COMBINATION OF ART GALLERIES, RETAIL SHOPS, OF ART GALLERIES, RETAIL SHOPS, AND RESTAURANTS IN ADDITION TO AND RESTAURANTS IN ADDITION TO AN INCUBATOR SPACE TO PROMOTE AN INCUBATOR SPACE TO PROMOTE BUSINESSES.

BUSINESSES.

THE SCOPE AND SIZE OF THE THE SCOPE AND SIZE OF THE FINALIZED PLAN WILL BE ANNOUNCED FINALIZED PLAN WILL BE ANNOUNCED FOLLOWING NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN FOLLOWING NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE TEAM ALCHEMY THE CITY AND THE TEAM ALCHEMY DEVELOPER.

DEVELOPER.

>>> AND THAT IS NOT THE ONLY >>> AND THAT IS NOT THE ONLY MAJOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEWS MAJOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEWS IN OKAY THIS WEEK.

IN OKAY THIS WEEK.

WITH MORE ON THAT, WE WELCOME WITH MORE ON THAT, WE WELCOME BACK JASON DOYLE WITH THE BACK JASON DOYLE WITH THE OKLAHOMA BUSINESS REVIEW.

OKLAHOMA BUSINESS REVIEW.

>> ELECTRIC VEHICLES >> ELECTRIC VEHICLES MANUFACTURERING CANOE REPORTS A MANUFACTURERING CANOE REPORTS A NET LOSS COMPARED TO A LOSS OF NET LOSS COMPARED TO A LOSS OF 15.2 MILLION FOR THE SAME PERIOD 15.2 MILLION FOR THE SAME PERIOD LAST YEAR.

LAST YEAR.

IN ITS QUARTERLY FINANCIAL IN ITS QUARTERLY FINANCIAL REPORT, THEY DID NOTE DUE TO THE REPORT, THEY DID NOTE DUE TO THE TIMING OF FUNDING, AND AN TIMING OF FUNDING, AND AN ENACCOUNTING RULE, IT'S ENACCOUNTING RULE, IT'S REPORT -- AN ACCOUNTING RULE, REPORT -- AN ACCOUNTING RULE, THERE'S A REPORT THAT SAYS THERE'S A REPORT THAT SAYS THERE'S A DOUBT IF THE GOING THERE'S A DOUBT IF THE GOING CONCERN.

CONCERN.

BUT THE C.E.O.

SAYS CANOE HAS BUT THE C.E.O.

SAYS CANOE HAS ACCESS TO 600 MILLION IN ACCESS TO 600 MILLION IN FINANCING AND WILL CONTINUE TO FINANCING AND WILL CONTINUE TO RAISE CAPITAL JEWLICIOUSLY -- RAISE CAPITAL JEWLICIOUSLY -- JUDICIOUSLY.

JUDICIOUSLY.

THEY'RE SEPARATED TO BUILD A THEY'RE SEPARATED TO BUILD A MANUFACTURING FACILITY IN PRYOR.

MANUFACTURING FACILITY IN PRYOR.

>>> WITH INFLATION RISING MORE >>> WITH INFLATION RISING MORE THAN 8 1/2% SINCE LAST YEAR, THAN 8 1/2% SINCE LAST YEAR, OKLAHOMANS ARE STRUGGLING TO PAY OKLAHOMANS ARE STRUGGLING TO PAY THE BILLS.

THE BILLS.

QUOTE WIZARD ISSUED A REPORT QUOTE WIZARD ISSUED A REPORT SHOWING OKLAHOMA IS ONE OF THE SHOWING OKLAHOMA IS ONE OF THE TOP STATES WITH THE MOST PEOPLE TOP STATES WITH THE MOST PEOPLE STRUGGLING, WITH HOUSEHOLD STRUGGLING, WITH HOUSEHOLD EXPENSES IN LIGHT OF RISING EXPENSES IN LIGHT OF RISING PRICES.

PRICES.

MORE THAN HALF OF OKLAHOMANS ARE MORE THAN HALF OF OKLAHOMANS ARE HAVING SLIGHT TO MODERATE HAVING SLIGHT TO MODERATE DIFFICULTY IN PAYING HOUSEHOLD DIFFICULTY IN PAYING HOUSEHOLD BILLS.

BILLS.

ANOTHER 17% ARE HAVING A VERY ANOTHER 17% ARE HAVING A VERY DIFFICULT TIME MAKING END MEET.

DIFFICULT TIME MAKING END MEET.

>>> CYPRESS ENVIRONMENTAL >>> CYPRESS ENVIRONMENTAL PARTNERS HAS FILED BANKRUPTCY.

PARTNERS HAS FILED BANKRUPTCY.

THE COMPANY REACHED A THE COMPANY REACHED A RESTRUCTURING SUPPORT AGREEMENT RESTRUCTURING SUPPORT AGREEMENT WITH ONE OF ITS MAJOR LENDERS.

WITH ONE OF ITS MAJOR LENDERS.

THE PLAN IS TO CLEAR 58 MILLION THE PLAN IS TO CLEAR 58 MILLION IN DEBT WITH FIVE MILLION IN IN DEBT WITH FIVE MILLION IN SPECIAL FINANCING TO GET THROUGH SPECIAL FINANCING TO GET THROUGH THE CHAPTER 11 PROCEEDINGS.

THE CHAPTER 11 PROCEEDINGS.

THEY FILED BANKRUPTCY IN THE THEY FILED BANKRUPTCY IN THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF TEXAS, SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF TEXAS, HOUSTON DIVISION.

HOUSTON DIVISION.

THE PLAN MUST BE APPROVED BY THE THE PLAN MUST BE APPROVED BY THE COURTS.

COURTS.

>>> MAMMOTH ENERGY SERVICES >>> MAMMOTH ENERGY SERVICES REPORTS A FIRST QUARTER LOSS OF REPORTS A FIRST QUARTER LOSS OF 14.8 MILLION DOLLARS COMPARED TO 14.8 MILLION DOLLARS COMPARED TO A LET -- NET LOSS OF 12 MILLION A LET -- NET LOSS OF 12 MILLION LAST YEAR.

LAST YEAR.

THE COMPANY DID SEE AN INCREASE THE COMPANY DID SEE AN INCREASE IN REVENUE FROM ITS IN REVENUE FROM ITS INFRASTRUCTURE SERVICES, AND INFRASTRUCTURE SERVICES, AND THERE IS MORE OPPORTUNITY TO THERE IS MORE OPPORTUNITY TO LAND PROJECTS IN THE NEAR LAND PROJECTS IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

FUTURE.

JASON DOYLE, THE OKLAHOMA JASON DOYLE, THE OKLAHOMA BUSINESS REVIEW.

BUSINESS REVIEW.

>>> THE OSAGE NATION RANCH >>> THE OSAGE NATION RANCH RECEIVED THE ZANE STATE RECEIVED THE ZANE STATE CONSERVATIONIST YEAR OF THE CONSERVATIONIST YEAR OF THE AWORD.

AWORD.

-- AWARD.

-- AWARD.

THE.

THE.

KENNEDY?

KENNEDY?

>> THEY'VE HAD.

>> THEY'VE HAD.

-- THAT'S RIGHT.

-- THAT'S RIGHT.

AND THE FURRY FRIENDS ARE KNOWN AND THE FURRY FRIENDS ARE KNOWN AS BISON.

AS BISON.

THEY HAD QUITE THE TRAVEL FROM THEY HAD QUITE THE TRAVEL FROM THE BRAWPTION ZOO IN NEW YORK -- THE BRAWPTION ZOO IN NEW YORK -- BRONX ZOO IN NEW YORK TO THE BRONX ZOO IN NEW YORK TO THE OSAGE NATION RANCH WHICH OSAGE NATION RANCH WHICH TRANSFERRED TO GRASS THAT IS TRANSFERRED TO GRASS THAT IS READY FOR GRAZING.

READY FOR GRAZING.

THE OSAGE NATION RANCH WAS THE OSAGE NATION RANCH WAS NOMINATED FOR THE NOMINATED FOR THE CONSERVATIONIST OF THE YEAR CONSERVATIONIST OF THE YEAR AWARD IN LATE 2021.

AWARD IN LATE 2021.

THE TITLE WAS BESTOWED UPON THEM THE TITLE WAS BESTOWED UPON THEM IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR TORE IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR TORE THE RANCH CREW'S WORK IN THE RANCH CREW'S WORK IN COLLABORATION WITH THE NATIONAL COLLABORATION WITH THE NATIONAL RESOURCES CONSERVATION SERVICE RESOURCES CONSERVATION SERVICE TO RESTORE THE LAND.

TO RESTORE THE LAND.

>> THE BEST WAY TO PUT IT WOULD >> THE BEST WAY TO PUT IT WOULD PROBABLY BE BEING GOOD STEWARDS PROBABLY BE BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF THE LANT.

OF THE LANT.

-- LAND.

-- LAND.

THIS RANCH WAS IN PRETTY POOR THIS RANCH WAS IN PRETTY POOR SHAPE WHEN THEY BOUGHT IT AND WE SHAPE WHEN THEY BOUGHT IT AND WE ACTUALLY -- WHEN I SAY DID A ACTUALLY -- WHEN I SAY DID A 180, IT'S LIKE WE HAVE ACTUALLY 180, IT'S LIKE WE HAVE ACTUALLY TURNED IT AROUND.

TURNED IT AROUND.

WE DID A LOT OF SPRAYING, A LOT WE DID A LOT OF SPRAYING, A LOT OF WORK, A LOT OF MONEY, WHICH OF WORK, A LOT OF MONEY, WHICH YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, NRCS YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, NRCS HELPED US A LOT WITH THAT.

HELPED US A LOT WITH THAT.

>> EVEN THOUGH THE RANCH HAS >> EVEN THOUGH THE RANCH HAS MADE A TURNAROUND, MIKE SAYS HIS MADE A TURNAROUND, MIKE SAYS HIS TEAM HAS MORE WORK TO DO BEFORE TEAM HAS MORE WORK TO DO BEFORE THE RANCH IS WHERE HE WANTS IT THE RANCH IS WHERE HE WANTS IT TO BE.

TO BE.

>> WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO WORK >> WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO WORK ON SOME PONDS THIS YEAR EVEN.

ON SOME PONDS THIS YEAR EVEN.

-- EVEN THOUGH WE GOT THE -- EVEN THOUGH WE GOT THE REWARD, WE'RE STILL GOING TO DO REWARD, WE'RE STILL GOING TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO FOR THE LAND.

WHAT WE NEED TO DO FOR THE LAND.

IF YOU SEE IT NOW, IT'S ACTUALLY IF YOU SEE IT NOW, IT'S ACTUALLY A PHYSICAL CHANGE.

A PHYSICAL CHANGE.

YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE IT.

YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE IT.

>> SIX NEW BISON JOIN THE HERD >> SIX NEW BISON JOIN THE HERD OF 190 BISON ROAMING THE OF 190 BISON ROAMING THE REFORMED LAND.

REFORMED LAND.

THEY CAME FROM THE BRONX ZOO THEY CAME FROM THE BRONX ZOO WHICH HAS A LONG HISTORY OFFED WHICH HAS A LONG HISTORY OFFED BREED -- OF BREEDING BISON FOR BREED -- OF BREEDING BISON FOR REINTRODUCTION.

REINTRODUCTION.

>> THE FIRST REINTRODUCTION TO >> THE FIRST REINTRODUCTION TO PLACE.

PLACE.

>> THAT FIRST EFFORT WAS 115 >> THAT FIRST EFFORT WAS 115 YEARS AGO WHEN OKLAHOMA WAS YEARS AGO WHEN OKLAHOMA WAS BARELY A STATE AND THE BISON BARELY A STATE AND THE BISON WERE ON THE BRINK OF EXTENSION WERE ON THE BRINK OF EXTENSION WITH JUST 300 LEFT -- EXTINCTION WITH JUST 300 LEFT -- EXTINCTION WITH JUST 300 LEFT.

WITH JUST 300 LEFT.

A STARK CONTRAST TO THE A STARK CONTRAST TO THE ESTIMATED 16 MILLION.

ESTIMATED 16 MILLION.

AS EUROPEANS SETTLERS DISCOVERED AS EUROPEANS SETTLERS DISCOVERED THE TRADE POSSIBILITIES, THAT THE TRADE POSSIBILITIES, THAT NUMBER BEGAN TO DWINDLE.

NUMBER BEGAN TO DWINDLE.

AT THE TIME THE ELIMINATION OF AT THE TIME THE ELIMINATION OF THE BISON WAS ENCOURAGED BY THE THE BISON WAS ENCOURAGED BY THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT IN AN AMERICAN GOVERNMENT IN AN ATTEMPT TO STARVE PLAIN INDIANS ATTEMPT TO STARVE PLAIN INDIANS OF THEIR PRIMARY FOOD SOURCE.

OF THEIR PRIMARY FOOD SOURCE.

THE BISON HELPED TELL THE STORY THE BISON HELPED TELL THE STORY OF THE NEAR EXTEENS, BUT THE -- OF THE NEAR EXTEENS, BUT THE -- EXTINCTION, BUT THE ZOO FELT EXTINCTION, BUT THE ZOO FELT THEY COULD DO MONTH -- MORE.

THEY COULD DO MONTH -- MORE.

>> WE WANTED TO DO MORE WITH OUR >> WE WANTED TO DO MORE WITH OUR BISON AND ACTUALLY HAVE OUR BISON AND ACTUALLY HAVE OUR ANIMALS PARTICIPATE IN ANIMALS PARTICIPATE IN CONSERVATION PROGRAMS.

CONSERVATION PROGRAMS.

SO WE HAD A VERY FOCUSED SO WE HAD A VERY FOCUSED BREEDING PROGRAM WHERE WE TRIED BREEDING PROGRAM WHERE WE TRIED TO BREED PURE BISON WITH THE TO BREED PURE BISON WITH THE INTENT OF BEING ABLE TO INTENT OF BEING ABLE TO REINTRODUCE THEM OR USE THEM IN REINTRODUCE THEM OR USE THEM IN RESTORATION PROGRAMS.

RESTORATION PROGRAMS.

>> IN THE EARLY 1900s, >> IN THE EARLY 1900s, RANCHERS TRIED BREEDING BISON TO RANCHERS TRIED BREEDING BISON TO DOMESTIC COWS TO CREATE A DOMESTIC COWS TO CREATE A HARDIER, LARGER BEEF COW.

HARDIER, LARGER BEEF COW.

AND WHILE THAT EFFORT WAS FAIRLY AND WHILE THAT EFFORT WAS FAIRLY SHORT-LIVED, THE EFFECTS OF THAT SHORT-LIVED, THE EFFECTS OF THAT EFFORT WERE NOT.

EFFORT WERE NOT.

>> THE OSAGE NATION BEGAN >> THE OSAGE NATION BEGAN BRINGING BISON TO THE RANCH BRINGING BISON TO THE RANCH AFTER THEY BOUGHT THE LAND SIX AFTER THEY BOUGHT THE LAND SIX YEARS AGO.

YEARS AGO.

THERE ARE UNDER 200 TODAY AND THERE ARE UNDER 200 TODAY AND THAT NUMBER MIGHT INCREASE IF THAT NUMBER MIGHT INCREASE IF ANY NEW CAVS ARE BORN THIS WEEK ANY NEW CAVS ARE BORN THIS WEEK AT THE RANCH.

AT THE RANCH.

>> OUR ORIGINAL HERD WE GOT BACK >> OUR ORIGINAL HERD WE GOT BACK WHEN WE BOUGHT THE RAUCH, IT'S WHEN WE BOUGHT THE RAUCH, IT'S SOME OF THE YELLOWSTONE IS WHAT SOME OF THE YELLOWSTONE IS WHAT THEIR BLOOD LINE IS.

THEIR BLOOD LINE IS.

AND THAT GROUP IS ALMOST AS PURE AND THAT GROUP IS ALMOST AS PURE AS YOU CAN GET AS WELL.

AS YOU CAN GET AS WELL.

AND THEN NOW WE HAVE THE BRONX AND THEN NOW WE HAVE THE BRONX COMING IN TO ADVERSITY TO OUR COMING IN TO ADVERSITY TO OUR SPECIES AND EVERYTHING.

SPECIES AND EVERYTHING.

AND THE ECOLOGICAL IMPACT THE AND THE ECOLOGICAL IMPACT THE BISON SWRD ARE OR GOING -- HAVE BISON SWRD ARE OR GOING -- HAVE HAD OR ARE GOING TO HAVE IS HAD OR ARE GOING TO HAVE IS IMMEASURABLE.

IMMEASURABLE.

>> THE OSAGE NATION AND LOCAL >> THE OSAGE NATION AND LOCAL COLLEGES COULD STUDY THE IMPACT COLLEGES COULD STUDY THE IMPACT OF THE ANIMALS THROUGHOUT THE OF THE ANIMALS THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.

YEARS.

>> MEASURE THEIR ACTUAL EXEAFL, >> MEASURE THEIR ACTUAL EXEAFL, WHAT THE CHANGES ARE FROM THE WHAT THE CHANGES ARE FROM THE VEGETATION STANDPOINT TO HOW VEGETATION STANDPOINT TO HOW THEY IMPROVE IT OVER THE YEARS.

THEY IMPROVE IT OVER THE YEARS.

>> THE BISON IS A SYMBOL OF >> THE BISON IS A SYMBOL OF STRENGTH FOR THE OSAGE PEOPLE.

STRENGTH FOR THE OSAGE PEOPLE.

>> AND NOW IT'S RETURNING -- I >> AND NOW IT'S RETURNING -- I REALLY BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO REALLY BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO TRANSLATE TO STRENGTHENING THE TRANSLATE TO STRENGTHENING THE OSAGE PEOPLE.

OSAGE PEOPLE.

AND I SAW THAT WHEN WE FIRST AND I SAW THAT WHEN WE FIRST BROUGHT THE BISON IN A FEW YEARS BROUGHT THE BISON IN A FEW YEARS AGO.

AGO.

ONE OF OUR ELDERS STEPPED INTO ONE OF OUR ELDERS STEPPED INTO THE PEN, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS THE PEN, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS HAVE I RISKY, AND HE BEGAN TO HAVE I RISKY, AND HE BEGAN TO PRAY -- VERY RISKY, AND HE EGG PRAY -- VERY RISKY, AND HE EGG BEGAN THAT.

BEGAN THAT.

WELCOME BACKING THE BISON BACK.

WELCOME BACKING THE BISON BACK.

HE PRAYED IN OSAGE.

HE PRAYED IN OSAGE.

AND THEY ALL LINED UP LIKE THEY AND THEY ALL LINED UP LIKE THEY WERE AN AUDIENCE FOR HIM.

WERE AN AUDIENCE FOR HIM.

AND I SAID, I KNOW WE'RE ON THE AND I SAID, I KNOW WE'RE ON THE RIGHT PATH.

RIGHT PATH.

>> THE OSAGE PEOPLE USED TO HUNT >> THE OSAGE PEOPLE USED TO HUNT BISON.

BISON.

THE LAST HUNT WAS IN THE 1860s THE LAST HUNT WAS IN THE 1860s WHEN THERE WERE ROUGHLY WHEN THERE WERE ROUGHLY FIVE MILLION SPREAD OUT ACROSS FIVE MILLION SPREAD OUT ACROSS NORTH AMERICA.

NORTH AMERICA.

>> I KNOW MY GREAT-GRANDFATHER >> I KNOW MY GREAT-GRANDFATHER FRED LOOKOUT WAS ON THAT HUNT AS FRED LOOKOUT WAS ON THAT HUNT AS A YOUNG MAN.

A YOUNG MAN.

AND HE PASSED THAT STORY DOWN AND HE PASSED THAT STORY DOWN ABOUT HOW DIFFICULT IT WAS EVEN ABOUT HOW DIFFICULT IT WAS EVEN THEN TO FIND THE BISON BECAUSE THEN TO FIND THE BISON BECAUSE THEY'D ALREADY BEEN SLAUGHTERED.

THEY'D ALREADY BEEN SLAUGHTERED.

>> NOW A CHIEF IS HAPPY TO HAVE >> NOW A CHIEF IS HAPPY TO HAVE THE BISON BACK ON OSAGE LAND.

THE BISON BACK ON OSAGE LAND.

>> AND WE WANT TO RESTORE THE >> AND WE WANT TO RESTORE THE HERD WHO HAZ NOT BEEN WITH US HERD WHO HAZ NOT BEEN WITH US SINCE THE 1860s.

SINCE THE 1860s.

>> THE OSAGE NATION'S CLINTON >> THE OSAGE NATION'S CLINTON RACE WITH THE ZOO DOESN'T JUST RACE WITH THE ZOO DOESN'T JUST END HERE.

END HERE.

THE CHIEF SAYS THEY PLAN TO THE CHIEF SAYS THEY PLAN TO PARTNER WITH THE ZOO IN THE FOUT PARTNER WITH THE ZOO IN THE FOUT TO FURTHER EXPAND THE BISON TO FURTHER EXPAND THE BISON CONSERVATION EFFORTS.

CONSERVATION EFFORTS.

>> KENNEDY, THANK YOU.

>> KENNEDY, THANK YOU.

>>> THERE IS NO FEDERAL LAW THAT >>> THERE IS NO FEDERAL LAW THAT CLEARLY PROHIBITS THE LEAK OF CLEARLY PROHIBITS THE LEAK OF THE SUPREME COURT OPINION DRAFT.

THE SUPREME COURT OPINION DRAFT.

IT MOSTLY DEPENDS ON IF THE IT MOSTLY DEPENDS ON IF THE LEAKER LEGALLY OBTAINED THE LEAKER LEGALLY OBTAINED THE MATERIAL.

MATERIAL.

SETTING THAT ASIDE, IT'S A GRAY SETTING THAT ASIDE, IT'S A GRAY AREA FOR JOURNALISTS THAT AREA FOR JOURNALISTS THAT INVOLVES ETHICS, OPPORTUNITY, INVOLVES ETHICS, OPPORTUNITY, AND RISK.

AND RISK.

IN THIS WEEK'S IN-DEPTH SEGMENT, IN THIS WEEK'S IN-DEPTH SEGMENT, WE GATHERED A PANEL OF RESPECTED WE GATHERED A PANEL OF RESPECTED OKLAHOMA JOURNALISTS TO DISCUSS OKLAHOMA JOURNALISTS TO DISCUSS THE HIGH-PROFILE, OFTEN THE HIGH-PROFILE, OFTEN ANONYMOUS MEDIA ELECTION.

ANONYMOUS MEDIA ELECTION.

-- LEAKS.

-- LEAKS.

>> THANK YOU, RICH.

>> THANK YOU, RICH.

LET ME GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE LET ME GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE OUR PANEL TO YOU.

OUR PANEL TO YOU.

A GREAT GROUP OF JOURNALISTS A GREAT GROUP OF JOURNALISTS HERE IN OKLAHOMA.

HERE IN OKLAHOMA.

FIRST, MARK THEY HAVER, WHOSE IS FIRST, MARK THEY HAVER, WHOSE IS A JOURNALISM PROFESSOR AT THE A JOURNALISM PROFESSOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF OKLAHOMA AND A UNIVERSITY OF OKLAHOMA AND A NETWORK NEWS CORRESPONDENCE.

NETWORK NEWS CORRESPONDENCE.

BRIAN A REPORTER FOR OKLAHOMA BRIAN A REPORTER FOR OKLAHOMA WATCH, A FREQUENT PARTNER WITH WATCH, A FREQUENT PARTNER WITH THE OKLAHOMA NEWS REPORT THROUGH THE OKLAHOMA NEWS REPORT THROUGH THAT ORGANIZATION.

THAT ORGANIZATION.

AND DYLAN, WHO IS EDITOR IN AND DYLAN, WHO IS EDITOR IN CHIEF OF THE FRONTIER.

CHIEF OF THE FRONTIER.

ANOTHER ONE OF OUR VALUED ANOTHER ONE OF OUR VALUED CONTENT DISTRIBUTORS -- CONTENT DISTRIBUTORS -- CONTRIBUTORS.

CONTRIBUTORS.

THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US.

THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING US.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING US.

>> MIKE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE >> MIKE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LEAGUE OF THE SUPREME COURT.

LEAGUE OF THE SUPREME COURT.

REALLY JUST A JAWINGER NAULT OF REALLY JUST A JAWINGER NAULT OF A HIT -- JUGGERNAUT OF A HIT IN A HIT -- JUGGERNAUT OF A HIT IN THE NEWS WORLD BECAUSE OF THE THE NEWS WORLD BECAUSE OF THE LEAK.

LEAK.

CAN YOU COMPARE THE SIGNIFICANCE CAN YOU COMPARE THE SIGNIFICANCE OF A LEAK FROM THE UNITED STATES OF A LEAK FROM THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT AND HOW BIG IS IT.

SUPREME COURT AND HOW BIG IS IT.

DOES IT MATCH WATERGATE OR THE DOES IT MATCH WATERGATE OR THE PENTAGON PAPERS.

PENTAGON PAPERS.

>> THINK IT'S BIGGER THAN THAT, >> THINK IT'S BIGGER THAN THAT, ACTUALLY.

ACTUALLY.

IT'S A GIGANTIC THING.

IT'S A GIGANTIC THING.

I'VE WORKED WITH CONFIDENTIAL I'VE WORKED WITH CONFIDENTIAL SOURCES ALL OF MY CAREER.

SOURCES ALL OF MY CAREER.

I WAS A NATIONAL SECURITY I WAS A NATIONAL SECURITY IMPORTANT DIFFERENT.

IMPORTANT DIFFERENT.

-- CORRESPONDENT.

-- CORRESPONDENT.

I'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH I'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES.

INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES.

BUT ONE THING YOU NEVER HEARD BUT ONE THING YOU NEVER HEARD ABOUT OR I REFER RECEIVED WAS A ABOUT OR I REFER RECEIVED WAS A LEAK -- OR I EVER RECEIVED WAS A LEAK -- OR I EVER RECEIVED WAS A LEAK OF THE SUPREME COURT.

LEAK OF THE SUPREME COURT.

THEY WERE PART OF MY BEAT, BUT I THEY WERE PART OF MY BEAT, BUT I KNOW PLENTY OF REPORTERS WHO KNOW PLENTY OF REPORTERS WHO COVER THE COURT AND THIS IS COVER THE COURT AND THIS IS UNPRECEDENTED.

UNPRECEDENTED.

IT IS HUGE.

IT IS HUGE.

>> I WANT TO ASK ALL THREE OF >> I WANT TO ASK ALL THREE OF YOU.

YOU.

MIKING, WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON THE MIKING, WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON THE ETHICS OF LEAKING INFORMATION TO ETHICS OF LEAKING INFORMATION TO THE PRESS?

THE PRESS?

IS THAT A NO-NO?

IS THAT A NO-NO?

I KNOW IT'S NOT AGAINST THE LAW.

I KNOW IT'S NOT AGAINST THE LAW.

IS IT?

IS IT?

>> IT DEPENDS.

>> IT DEPENDS.

YOU CAN BE PROSECUTED IN THE -- YOU CAN BE PROSECUTED IN THE -- IN THE AREA THAT I KNOW, THE IN THE AREA THAT I KNOW, THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY, YOU CAN INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY, YOU CAN BE PROSECUTED.

BE PROSECUTED.

WITH THE COURTMAN -- NOW, THIS WITH THE COURTMAN -- NOW, THIS IS NOT CLASSIFIED INFORMATION, IS NOT CLASSIFIED INFORMATION, SO IT'S LEGALLY DEFINED IN THE SO IT'S LEGALLY DEFINED IN THE LAW ABOUT CLASSIFIED LAW ABOUT CLASSIFIED INFORMATION, BUT YOU'RE DEALING INFORMATION, BUT YOU'RE DEALING WITH THE COURT.

WITH THE COURT.

THIS IS CONFIDENTIAL.

THIS IS CONFIDENTIAL.

AND CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION.

AND CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION.

AND THERE'S A DISTINCT THERE.

AND THERE'S A DISTINCT THERE.

SO IF THERE WAS A MAJOR LEAP SO IF THERE WAS A MAJOR LEAP LET'S SAY FROM THE C.I.A.

-- LET'S SAY FROM THE C.I.A.

-- LEAK LET'S SAY FROM THE C.I.A.

LEAK LET'S SAY FROM THE C.I.A.

AND IT HELPED ONE OF OUR FOREIGN AND IT HELPED ONE OF OUR FOREIGN ADVERSARIES, THAT PERSON WOULD ADVERSARIES, THAT PERSON WOULD BE PROSECUTED.

BE PROSECUTED.

IN THE COURT, THAT'S THE WHOLE IN THE COURT, THAT'S THE WHOLE DIFFERENT BALL GAME.

DIFFERENT BALL GAME.

AND IT IS -- AS FAR AS I CAN AND IT IS -- AS FAR AS I CAN DETERMINE, NOT AGAINST THE LAW.

DETERMINE, NOT AGAINST THE LAW.

>> I WANT TO GET YOUR TAKE, >> I WANT TO GET YOUR TAKE, FIRST OF ALL, ON THE ETHICS OF FIRST OF ALL, ON THE ETHICS OF LEAKS.

LEAKS.

HOW BIG OF A DEAL IS THIS TO YOU HOW BIG OF A DEAL IS THIS TO YOU GUYS AND DYLAN, WE'LL START WITH GUYS AND DYLAN, WE'LL START WITH YOU.

YOU.

HAS THAT EVER HAPPENED TO YOU?

HAS THAT EVER HAPPENED TO YOU?

HAVE YOU EVER HAD TO WRESTLE HAVE YOU EVER HAD TO WRESTLE WITH SOMEONE LEAKING INFORMATION WITH SOMEONE LEAKING INFORMATION TO YOU AND WHETHER OR NOT TO USE TO YOU AND WHETHER OR NOT TO USE IT?

IT?

>> OH, YEAH.

>> OH, YEAH.

YOU KNOW, CONSTANTLY.

YOU KNOW, CONSTANTLY.

I MEAN, WE HAVE RIGHT NOW I MEAN, WE HAVE RIGHT NOW PROBABLY TWO OR THROUGH STORIES PROBABLY TWO OR THROUGH STORIES WE'RE WORKING ON THAT HAVE COME WE'RE WORKING ON THAT HAVE COME FROM EITHER DUMPS FROM PROVOST FROM EITHER DUMPS FROM PROVOST TON MAIL ACCOUNTS OR -- PROVOST TON MAIL ACCOUNTS OR -- PROVOST TON MAIL ACCOUNTS -- WE DEAL TON MAIL ACCOUNTS -- WE DEAL WITH THAT STUFF ALL THE TIME.

WITH THAT STUFF ALL THE TIME.

I'VE GOTTEN RECORDS IN TRASH I'VE GOTTEN RECORDS IN TRASH BAGS THROWN OUT OF WINDOWS.

BAGS THROWN OUT OF WINDOWS.

YOU KNOW, WHAT MIKE WAS SAYING YOU KNOW, WHAT MIKE WAS SAYING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE LEGALITY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE LEGALITY OF -- OF LEAKS OR WHATEVER, IN OF -- OF LEAKS OR WHATEVER, IN OKLAHOMA LIKE WHAT WE DEAL WITH OKLAHOMA LIKE WHAT WE DEAL WITH MORE THAN PEOPLE WORRIED ABOUT MORE THAN PEOPLE WORRIED ABOUT THE LEGALITY OF WHAT THEY'RE THE LEGALITY OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS YOU KNOW, OKLAHOMA IS DOING IS YOU KNOW, OKLAHOMA IS AN AT-WILL STATE AND THEY'RE AN AT-WILL STATE AND THEY'RE ALWAYS CONCERNED THAT NOT -- ALWAYS CONCERNED THAT NOT -- I'LL BE CHARGED WITH A CRIME BUT I'LL BE CHARGED WITH A CRIME BUT THAT IF ANYONE FINDS OUT, I'LL THAT IF ANYONE FINDS OUT, I'LL BE FIRED.

BE FIRED.

THAT'S ALWAYS ONE OF OUR MAIN THAT'S ALWAYS ONE OF OUR MAIN CONSIDERATIONS, IS FIGURING OUT CONSIDERATIONS, IS FIGURING OUT HOW TO REPORT ON THE -- WHATEVER HOW TO REPORT ON THE -- WHATEVER ILS, E -- IT IS, EMAILS OR ILS, E -- IT IS, EMAILS OR DOCUMENTS, WHATEVER WE GET, DOCUMENTS, WHATEVER WE GET, WHILE ALSO DOING IT A WAY THAT WHILE ALSO DOING IT A WAY THAT PROTECT THE IDENTITY OF THE PROTECT THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON WHO HAS GIVEN THE PERSON WHO HAS GIVEN THE DOCUMENTS TO US AND BECAUSE THEY DOCUMENTS TO US AND BECAUSE THEY CAN FACE RETALIATION.

CAN FACE RETALIATION.

THEY CAN BE FIRED.

THEY CAN BE FIRED.

>> WHITNEY, HAVE YOU EVER HAD TO >> WHITNEY, HAVE YOU EVER HAD TO WRESTLE WITH THIS DECISION OF WRESTLE WITH THIS DECISION OF WHETHER TO LEAK INFORMATION WHETHER TO LEAK INFORMATION THAT'S COME TO YOU, AND IF SO, THAT'S COME TO YOU, AND IF SO, WHAT CRITERIA DO YOU USE WHEN WHAT CRITERIA DO YOU USE WHEN LOOKING AT THIS?

LOOKING AT THIS?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

I MEAN, LIKE DYLAN SAID, WE DEAL I MEAN, LIKE DYLAN SAID, WE DEAL WITH THAT A LOT AT OKLAHOMA WITH THAT A LOT AT OKLAHOMA WATCH.

WATCH.

A COLLEAGUE OF MINE -- OF MINE A COLLEAGUE OF MINE -- OF MINE IS WORKING ON A STORY THAT IS WORKING ON A STORY THAT INVOLVES THE LEAK I AM INVOLVES THE LEAK I AM PERSONALLY WORKING ON A STORY PERSONALLY WORKING ON A STORY RIGHT NOW THAT INVOLVES A LEAK.

RIGHT NOW THAT INVOLVES A LEAK.

WE GOT THE TIP THROUGH WHAT WE GOT THE TIP THROUGH WHAT BEGAN AS AN ANONYMOUS SOURCE.

BEGAN AS AN ANONYMOUS SOURCE.

NOW, IN THAT CASE, YOU KNOW, THE NOW, IN THAT CASE, YOU KNOW, THE PERSON WHO LEAKED US THE PERSON WHO LEAKED US THE INFORMATION EVENTUALLY TOLD ME INFORMATION EVENTUALLY TOLD ME WHO THEY WERE.

WHO THEY WERE.

AND I WAS ABLE TO VERIFY SOME OF AND I WAS ABLE TO VERIFY SOME OF THE INFORMATION BASED ON WHO THE THE INFORMATION BASED ON WHO THE PERSON WAS THAT WAS PROVIDING PERSON WAS THAT WAS PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION.

THAT INFORMATION.

SO THAT'S OBVIOUSLY HUGE FOR YOU SO THAT'S OBVIOUSLY HUGE FOR YOU KNOW, ACCURACY AND MAKING SURE KNOW, ACCURACY AND MAKING SURE THAT WHAT WE'RE GETTING IS THAT WHAT WE'RE GETTING IS LEGITIMATE INFORMATION.

LEGITIMATE INFORMATION.

ACCURACY IS OBVIOUSLY OUR FIRST ACCURACY IS OBVIOUSLY OUR FIRST PRIORITY.

PRIORITY.

CAN WE VERIFY THAT THE CAN WE VERIFY THAT THE INFORMATION WE'RE RECEIVING IS INFORMATION WE'RE RECEIVING IS OAK RAT AND TRUTH -- IS ACCURATE OAK RAT AND TRUTH -- IS ACCURATE AND TRUTHFUL.

AND TRUTHFUL.

AND THE NEXT QUESTION IS DOES IT AND THE NEXT QUESTION IS DOES IT SERVE THE PUBLIC FOR US TO TELL SERVE THE PUBLIC FOR US TO TELL THIS STORY, TO PUT THIS THIS STORY, TO PUT THIS INFORMATION OUT.

INFORMATION OUT.

>> LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT.

>> LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT.

DOES THIS WHEN WE COME BACK DOES THIS WHEN WE COME BACK SERVE THE PUBLIC INTEREST WHEN SERVE THE PUBLIC INTEREST WHEN WE LOOK AT THE PROTESTS.

WE LOOK AT THE PROTESTS.

IS IT KNOWLEDGE THAT THE IS IT KNOWLEDGE THAT THE AMERICAN PUBLIC NEEDED TO HAVE AMERICAN PUBLIC NEEDED TO HAVE BEFORE THE RULING DOWN FROM THE BEFORE THE RULING DOWN FROM THE SUPREME COURT?

SUPREME COURT?

WHAT'S YOUR OPINION?

WHAT'S YOUR OPINION?

>> ME?

>> ME?

>> YES.

>> YES.

>> I DON'T THINK ANY LEAGUE FROM >> I DON'T THINK ANY LEAGUE FROM THE SUPREME COURT IN ADVANCE THE SUPREME COURT IN ADVANCE OR -- LEAK FROM THE SUPREME OR -- LEAK FROM THE SUPREME COURT IN ADVANCE OR IN ADVANCE COURT IN ADVANCE OR IN ADVANCE OF RULING AND HELPFUL.

OF RULING AND HELPFUL.

I THINK IT TACKS THE I THINK IT TACKS THE UNDERPINNINGS OF THE COURT UNDERPINNINGS OF THE COURT ITSELF.

ITSELF.

THE PUBLIC'S TRUST IN THE COURT.

THE PUBLIC'S TRUST IN THE COURT.

AND THE COURT IS SO CRUCIAL TO AND THE COURT IS SO CRUCIAL TO THIS NATION'S FUTURE, SPA -- THIS NATION'S FUTURE, SPA -- THAT IT BEING UNDERMINED, NO THAT IT BEING UNDERMINED, NO MATTER WHAT THE DECISION IS OR MATTER WHAT THE DECISION IS OR WHAT SIDE OF THE FENCE YOU ARE WHAT SIDE OF THE FENCE YOU ARE ON IT, I DON'T SEE IT AS HELPFUL ON IT, I DON'T SEE IT AS HELPFUL AND THIS IS MY OWN PERSONAL AND THIS IS MY OWN PERSONAL VIEW.

VIEW.

I SEE IT AS SOMETHING THAT I SEE IT AS SOMETHING THAT REALLY DOES -- YOU KNOW, PICK REALLY DOES -- YOU KNOW, PICK AWAY AT THE INSTITUTION BIT BY AWAY AT THE INSTITUTION BIT BY BIT.

BIT.

>> YOU KNOW, AS JOURNALISTS, IN >> YOU KNOW, AS JOURNALISTS, IN THE MIDDLE OF RECEIVING THAT THE MIDDLE OF RECEIVING THAT INFORMATION, DECIDING WHETHER OR INFORMATION, DECIDING WHETHER OR NOT TO DELIVER IT, IT'S REALLY NOT TO DELIVER IT, IT'S REALLY FOR OUR AUDIENCES KIND OF A LOOK FOR OUR AUDIENCES KIND OF A LOOK INSIDE AND EXPLAIN TO THEM, FOR INSIDE AND EXPLAIN TO THEM, FOR LACK OF A BETTER ANALOGY, HOW LACK OF A BETTER ANALOGY, HOW THE SAUSAGE GETS MADE, RIGHT?

THE SAUSAGE GETS MADE, RIGHT?

AND SO IS IT IMPORTANT THAT THE AND SO IS IT IMPORTANT THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND THIS PROCESS?

PUBLIC UNDERSTAND THIS PROCESS?

>> I THINK WHISTLE-BLOWERS ARE >> I THINK WHISTLE-BLOWERS ARE IMPORTANT IN THE -- AND THE IMPORTANT IN THE -- AND THE INFORMATION THEY PROVIDE INFORMATION THEY PROVIDE JOURNALISTS.

JOURNALISTS.

AND I THINK IT WORKS AS A CHECK AND I THINK IT WORKS AS A CHECK OF ABUSE OF POWER.

OF ABUSE OF POWER.

NOW, IN THE WORLD THAT I NOW, IN THE WORLD THAT I COVERED, WHICH IS NATIONAL COVERED, WHICH IS NATIONAL SECURITY FOR DECADES, YOU REALLY SECURITY FOR DECADES, YOU REALLY HAVE TO WEIGH -- WHEN YOU HAVE TO WEIGH -- WHEN YOU RECEIVE LEAKS, YOU HAVE TO -- RECEIVE LEAKS, YOU HAVE TO -- FIRST OFF, YOU TRY TO CONSIDER, FIRST OFF, YOU TRY TO CONSIDER, IS THIS AN AUTHORIZED LEAK, IS THIS AN AUTHORIZED LEAK, BECAUSE THERE ARE AUTHORIZED BECAUSE THERE ARE AUTHORIZED LEEKS OUT THERE THAT COME FROM LEEKS OUT THERE THAT COME FROM THE TOP.

THE TOP.

IT WOULD BE A LOWER RANKING IT WOULD BE A LOWER RANKING PERSON WHO'S BEEN AUTHORIZED BY PERSON WHO'S BEEN AUTHORIZED BY THE DIRECTOR OF AN AGENCY TO THE DIRECTOR OF AN AGENCY TO LEAK INFORMATION IN ORDER TO LEAK INFORMATION IN ORDER TO AFFECT POLICY OR OPINION AFFECT POLICY OR OPINION WORLDWIDE ON SOME ISSUE.

WORLDWIDE ON SOME ISSUE.

A LEAK TO ACHIEVE A POLITICAL A LEAK TO ACHIEVE A POLITICAL ENDGAME OR GOAL, THAT -- THAT ENDGAME OR GOAL, THAT -- THAT HAPPENS IN WATCH EVERY -- IN HAPPENS IN WATCH EVERY -- IN WASHINGTON EVERY MINUTE OF EVERY WASHINGTON EVERY MINUTE OF EVERY HOUR OF EVERY DAY.

HOUR OF EVERY DAY.

IT DOESN'T HAPPEN WITH THE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN WITH THE SUPREME COURT.

SUPREME COURT.

>> YEAH.

>> YEAH.

>> AND THAT'S WHAT CONCERNS ME >> AND THAT'S WHAT CONCERNS ME ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR LEAK, THAT ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR LEAK, THAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT GOOD EFFECT IT I DON'T KNOW WHAT GOOD EFFECT IT CAN ACTUALLY HAVE IF IT'S GOING CAN ACTUALLY HAVE IF IT'S GOING TO SWAY SOMEONE'S MIND OR HARDEN TO SWAY SOMEONE'S MIND OR HARDEN POSITIONS.

POSITIONS.

>> YEAH.

>> YEAH.

I WANT TO ASK YOU, AS A I WANT TO ASK YOU, AS A JOURNALIST DO YOU THINK THE JOURNALIST DO YOU THINK THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON WHO IDENTITY OF THE PERSON WHO LEAKED THIS INFORMATION SHOULD LEAKED THIS INFORMATION SHOULD BE MADE PUBLIC?

BE MADE PUBLIC?

>> OF THE -- YOU'RE TALKING >> OF THE -- YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SUPREME COURT?

ABOUT THE SUPREME COURT?

>> YES.

>> YES.

>> LEAK?

>> LEAK?

OH, MAN.

OH, MAN.

I THINK IT'S WORTH KNOWING THEIR I THINK IT'S WORTH KNOWING THEIR BACKGROUND AND WHAT THEIR AIMS BACKGROUND AND WHAT THEIR AIMS WERE IN LEAKING IT.

WERE IN LEAKING IT.

IF IDENTITY OF THE PERSON -- IF IDENTITY OF THE PERSON -- IDENTITY OF THE PERSON IDENTITY OF THE PERSON THEMSELVES, IF THEY'RE KNOWN TO THEMSELVES, IF THEY'RE KNOWN TO THE REPORTER AND THAT THE REPORTER AND THAT REPORTER -- AND THEIREREDDOR, REPORTER -- AND THEIREREDDOR, YOU KNOW -- THEIR EDITOR, YOU KNOW -- THEIR EDITOR, THEY'VE SPOKEN ABOUT IT, I DON'T THEY'VE SPOKEN ABOUT IT, I DON'T KNOW THAT KNOWING THAT IDENTITY KNOW THAT KNOWING THAT IDENTITY OF WHO IT WAS HELPS ANYONE.

OF WHO IT WAS HELPS ANYONE.

I THINK KNOWING WHAT THEIR AIMS I THINK KNOWING WHAT THEIR AIMS WERE IN LEAKING IT IS CAN -- IT WERE IN LEAKING IT IS CAN -- IT CAN HELP INFORM HOW PEOPLE FEEL CAN HELP INFORM HOW PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT THE LEAK ITSELF.

ABOUT THE LEAK ITSELF.

BUT THE PERSON ITSELF, UNLESS BUT THE PERSON ITSELF, UNLESS THEY COME FORWARD, YOU KNOW, I THEY COME FORWARD, YOU KNOW, I THINK ICE A -- AS AERT RO, WHEN THINK ICE A -- AS AERT RO, WHEN YOU -- AS A REPORTER, WHEN YOU YOU -- AS A REPORTER, WHEN YOU GET A LEAK AND YOU TELL SOMEONE GET A LEAK AND YOU TELL SOMEONE YOUR IDENTITY IS SAFE WITH ME, YOUR IDENTITY IS SAFE WITH ME, THAT'S AN AGREEMENT THAT YOU THAT'S AN AGREEMENT THAT YOU DON'T GO BACK ON.

DON'T GO BACK ON.

AND SO IT WOULD BE UP TO THEM.

AND SO IT WOULD BE UP TO THEM.

>> WHEN IS -- YOU WOULD NOT GO >> WHEN IS -- YOU WOULD NOT GO BACK ON EVEN GIVEN JAIL TIME.

BACK ON EVEN GIVEN JAIL TIME.

AND HAVING SAID, DYLAN DOES NOT AND HAVING SAID, DYLAN DOES NOT THINK THE IDENTITY IS NEEDED, THINK THE IDENTITY IS NEEDED, MATE THE MOTIVATIONS, WHAT ARE MATE THE MOTIVATIONS, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS AND -- WE KNOW IN YOUR THOUGHTS AND -- WE KNOW IN THE JOURNALISTIC WORLD IN THE JOURNALISTIC WORLD IN AMERICA RIGHT NOW, IF -- EVERY AMERICA RIGHT NOW, IF -- EVERY JOURNALIST IS TRYING TO FIND OUT JOURNALIST IS TRYING TO FIND OUT WHO IT IS, CORRECT?

WHO IT IS, CORRECT?

DO YOU THINK THAT'S TRUE?

DO YOU THINK THAT'S TRUE?

>> I THINK IT'S PROBABLY TRUE >> I THINK IT'S PROBABLY TRUE THAT A LOT OF JOURNALISTS ARE THAT A LOT OF JOURNALISTS ARE TRYING TO FIND OUT WHO THE LEAK TRYING TO FIND OUT WHO THE LEAK CAME FROM.

CAME FROM.

YOU KNOW, PART OF THAT I WOULD YOU KNOW, PART OF THAT I WOULD HOPE IS SINCERE MOTIVATION THAT HOPE IS SINCERE MOTIVATION THAT THEY'RE REPORTERRING ON THE THEY'RE REPORTERRING ON THE LEAK, TOO, WHETHER IT WAS SENT LEAK, TOO, WHETHER IT WAS SENT DIRECTLY TO THEM OR NOT.

DIRECTLY TO THEM OR NOT.

SO IF WE WERE TO START REPORTING SO IF WE WERE TO START REPORTING ON THAT SPECIFICALLY -- SPECIFIC ON THAT SPECIFICALLY -- SPECIFIC LEAK, WE WOULD WANT TO KNOW THE LEAK, WE WOULD WANT TO KNOW THE PERSON WHO LEAKED IT.

PERSON WHO LEAKED IT.

AS DYLAN SUGGESTED, MOTIVATION AS DYLAN SUGGESTED, MOTIVATION HAS A LOT TO DO WITH HOW WE TAKE HAS A LOT TO DO WITH HOW WE TAKE IN THAT INFORMATION.

IN THAT INFORMATION.

HOW WE VIEW THAT INFORMATION.

HOW WE VIEW THAT INFORMATION.

AND HOW WE VET AND REPORT ON AND HOW WE VET AND REPORT ON THAT INFORMATION.

THAT INFORMATION.

SO YOU KNOW, ABSOLUTELY SO YOU KNOW, ABSOLUTELY JOURNALISTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY JOURNALISTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY WANT TO KNOW WHO THAT PERSON IS.

WANT TO KNOW WHO THAT PERSON IS.

BUT AS FAR AS IDENTIFYING THEM, BUT AS FAR AS IDENTIFYING THEM, YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH WHAT DYLAN SAID.

DYLAN SAID.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THE PERSON'S I DON'T KNOW THAT THE PERSON'S IDENTITY IS AS IMPORTANT TO SORT IDENTITY IS AS IMPORTANT TO SORT OF PLASTER ON THE FRONT OF OF PLASTER ON THE FRONT OF NEWSPAPERS AS IT IS FOR THE NEWSPAPERS AS IT IS FOR THE JOURNALISTS AND EDITORS TO KNOW JOURNALISTS AND EDITORS TO KNOW WHO IT IS AND BE ABLE TO VET WHO IT IS AND BE ABLE TO VET THAT PERSON AND UNDERSTAND, YOU THAT PERSON AND UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THE MOTIVATIONS BEHIND A KNOW, THE MOTIVATIONS BEHIND A LOOK LIKE THAT.

LOOK LIKE THAT.

>> MIKE, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU >> MIKE, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THE FINAL RECORD IN THIS THE FINAL RECORD IN THIS DISCUSSION.

DISCUSSION.

IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO TOUCH ON THAT OKLAHOMANS LIKE TO TOUCH ON THAT OKLAHOMANS WOULD FIND INTERESTING ABOUT WOULD FIND INTERESTING ABOUT THIS KIND OF AN INSIDE VIEW.

THIS KIND OF AN INSIDE VIEW.

AND ALSO YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE AND ALSO YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE TEACHING ETHICS IN JOURNALISM AT TEACHING ETHICS IN JOURNALISM AT THE UNIVERSITY OF OKLAHOMA, SUCH THE UNIVERSITY OF OKLAHOMA, SUCH AN ESTEEMED JOURNALISM SCHOOL AN ESTEEMED JOURNALISM SCHOOL THERE, HAVE YOU SEEN THE ETHICS THERE, HAVE YOU SEEN THE ETHICS IN JOURNALISM CHANGE AND WHERE IN JOURNALISM CHANGE AND WHERE DO YOU THINK WE STAND NOW?

DO YOU THINK WE STAND NOW?

>> I THINK WE'RE GETTING LOOSER >> I THINK WE'RE GETTING LOOSER ABOUT THAT.

ABOUT THAT.

AND WE TRY TO DRILL THAT IN TO AND WE TRY TO DRILL THAT IN TO THE STUDENTS AT THE UNIVERSITY THE STUDENTS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF OKLAHOMA AT GAYLORD COLLEGE.

OF OKLAHOMA AT GAYLORD COLLEGE.

, THAT YOU REALLY WANT TO FOLLOW , THAT YOU REALLY WANT TO FOLLOW THE ETHICAL PATH, BUT WHAT WE DO THE ETHICAL PATH, BUT WHAT WE DO AS A JOB IN JOURNALISM IS GO OUT AS A JOB IN JOURNALISM IS GO OUT AND SEEK INFORMATION.

AND SEEK INFORMATION.

WE RYAN SOURCES.

WE RYAN SOURCES.

-- WE FIND SOURCES.

-- WE FIND SOURCES.

WE GEND ON CONFIDENTIAL SOURCES.

WE GEND ON CONFIDENTIAL SOURCES.

-- DEPEND ON CONFIDENTIAL -- DEPEND ON CONFIDENTIAL SOURCES.

SOURCES.

I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER SOMETIMES, THOUGH, AS SOMETIMES, THOUGH, AS JOURNALISTS, AND THIS IS THE JOURNALISTS, AND THIS IS THE TOUGH PART OF THE JOB -- WHAT IS TOUGH PART OF THE JOB -- WHAT IS THE -- THE GAIN AND WHAT IS THE THE -- THE GAIN AND WHAT IS THE LOSS ON THIS.

LOSS ON THIS.

ON THE SCALE.

ON THE SCALE.

AND YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, I AND YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, I HAVE BEEN TOLD HIGHLY CLASSIFIED HAVE BEEN TOLD HIGHLY CLASSIFIED INFORMATION BY INTELLIGENCE INFORMATION BY INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS, IN ORDER TO EDUCATE OFFICIALS, IN ORDER TO EDUCATE ME ABOUT A BIGGER PICTURE, ME ABOUT A BIGGER PICTURE, GLOBAL SECURITY ISSUE.

GLOBAL SECURITY ISSUE.

NOW, I COULD HAVE GONE OUT AND NOW, I COULD HAVE GONE OUT AND REPORTED THOSE ISSUES, BUT REPORTED THOSE ISSUES, BUT PEOPLE WOULD HAVE DIED.

PEOPLE WOULD HAVE DIED.

CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE DIED IF I CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE DIED IF I WOULD HAVE DONE THAT.

WOULD HAVE DONE THAT.

AND SO EVERY TIME I DEAL WITH AND SO EVERY TIME I DEAL WITH THIS, THERE'S NOT -- THERE'S NOT THIS, THERE'S NOT -- THERE'S NOT A ONE-SIZE FITSALL ON THIS AT A ONE-SIZE FITSALL ON THIS AT ALL.

ALL.

YOU'VE GOT TO CONSIDER EVERY YOU'VE GOT TO CONSIDER EVERY CASE ON ITS MERITS.

CASE ON ITS MERITS.

AND YOU'VE GOT TO WORK THROUGH AND YOU'VE GOT TO WORK THROUGH THE MOTIVATIONS.

THE MOTIVATIONS.

AND -- OF THAT PERSON LEAKING AND -- OF THAT PERSON LEAKING THAT INFORMATION.

THAT INFORMATION.

AND WHAT IS THEIR BIAS, WHAT ARE AND WHAT IS THEIR BIAS, WHAT ARE THEY TRYING TO ACHIEVE, AND DOES THEY TRYING TO ACHIEVE, AND DOES IT SERVE THE GREATER GOOD?

IT SERVE THE GREATER GOOD?

AND THAT IS THE GREAT AND THAT IS THE GREAT RESPONSIBILITY THAT'S PUT ON OUR RESPONSIBILITY THAT'S PUT ON OUR SHOULDERS AS JOURNALISTS.

SHOULDERS AS JOURNALISTS.

OPERATING WITH A SENSITIVE OPERATING WITH A SENSITIVE INFORMATION IS -- IS HOW TO INFORMATION IS -- IS HOW TO PROCEED.

PROCEED.

YOU KNOW, IT'S -- IT'S -- IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S -- IT'S -- IT'S THE OLD SAYING, YOU KNOW, DO NO THE OLD SAYING, YOU KNOW, DO NO HARM.

HARM.

AND IN OUR JOBS, WISH AND IN OUR JOBS, WISH FRIGHTENING TO DO -- WE'RE FRIGHTENING TO DO -- WE'RE TRYING TO DO GOOD THINGS.

TRYING TO DO GOOD THINGS.

WE'RE TRYING TO EDUCATE THE WE'RE TRYING TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC.

PUBLIC.

BUT IF A LEAK COMES AND IT'S BUT IF A LEAK COMES AND IT'S TRYING TO REALLY WEAKEN OUR TRYING TO REALLY WEAKEN OUR INSTITUTIONS AND OUR REPUBLIC, INSTITUTIONS AND OUR REPUBLIC, THEN I DRAW A LINE.

THEN I DRAW A LINE.

>> RIGHT.

>> RIGHT.

I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT RIGHT I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT RIGHT THERE.

THERE.

I'D THANK TO -- LIKE TO THANK I'D THANK TO -- LIKE TO THANK THE THREE OF YOU FOR YOUR THE THREE OF YOU FOR YOUR INSIGHT ON THIS TOPIC THAT'S INSIGHT ON THIS TOPIC THAT'S GRIPPING THE NATION.

GRIPPING THE NATION.

WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS NEXT.

WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS NEXT.

THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING WITH US.

THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING WITH US.

>> SURE, THANK YOU.

>> SURE, THANK YOU.

>> THANKS, SUSAN.

>> THANKS, SUSAN.

>>> REALLY, REALLY INTERESTING >>> REALLY, REALLY INTERESTING CONVERSATION.

CONVERSATION.

>>> THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF >>> THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE ON HUMANS ARE CLIMATE CHANGE ON HUMANS ARE OFTEN FIRST EXPERIENCED BY OFTEN FIRST EXPERIENCED BY ANIMALS.

ANIMALS.

IT GIVES US A HEADS UP THAT IT'S IT GIVES US A HEADS UP THAT IT'S ON THE WAY.

ON THE WAY.

AS WE LEARN ON THE NATIONAL AS WE LEARN ON THE NATIONAL VIEW, COURTESY OF OUR FRIENDS IN VIEW, COURTESY OF OUR FRIENDS IN THE TAR HEEL STATE.

THE TAR HEEL STATE.

>> IT'S WINTER.

>> IT'S WINTER.

THEY'RE NOT RESPONDING TO THEY'RE NOT RESPONDING TO CALLBACKS, SO WE HAVE TO PUSH CALLBACKS, SO WE HAVE TO PUSH THEM INTO OUR NETS.

THEM INTO OUR NETS.

[YELLING] [YELLING] >> THERE'S ONE IN.

>> THERE'S ONE IN.

SWEET!

SWEET!

>> THERE'S ANOTHER ONE!

>> THERE'S ANOTHER ONE!

UNBANDED.

UNBANDED.

>> HEY, LITTLE BUDDY.

>> HEY, LITTLE BUDDY.

>> THEY'RE SUPER HARD TO FIND >> THEY'RE SUPER HARD TO FIND BECAUSE THEY'RE THE SAME COLOR BECAUSE THEY'RE THE SAME COLOR AS THE GRASS.

AS THE GRASS.

AND THE MARSH.

AND THE MARSH.

>> ORANGE, BROWN, TAN COLORED >> ORANGE, BROWN, TAN COLORED BIRDS.

BIRDS.

MEDIUM SIZED SPARROW BUT FAIRLY MEDIUM SIZED SPARROW BUT FAIRLY LARGE BUILDS.

LARGE BUILDS.

REALLY ADORABLE.

REALLY ADORABLE.

>> AND QUIET.

>> AND QUIET.

IN THE SUMMERTIME THEY'LL CALL IN THE SUMMERTIME THEY'LL CALL AND SING.

AND SING.

WE JUST HEAR THEM MAKING SMALL WE JUST HEAR THEM MAKING SMALL VOCALIZATIONS DURING THE WINTER.

VOCALIZATIONS DURING THE WINTER.

[LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] >> PRETTY MUCH.

>> PRETTY MUCH.

[LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] >> AAH!

>> AAH!

HERE WE GO.

HERE WE GO.

>> THESE TINY BIRDS MAY SOON BE >> THESE TINY BIRDS MAY SOON BE CONSIDERED ENDANGERED.

CONSIDERED ENDANGERED.

THEY RELY ON COASTAL MARSH THEY RELY ON COASTAL MARSH ECOSYSTEMS TO THRIVE AND SPEND ECOSYSTEMS TO THRIVE AND SPEND THEIR WINTERS IN THEIR WINTERS IN NORTH CAROLINA'S SALT MAR CHES, NORTH CAROLINA'S SALT MAR CHES, THE SAME -- MARSHES, THE SAME THE SAME -- MARSHES, THE SAME PEOPLE RELY ON.

PEOPLE RELY ON.

BUT THOSE ARE DISAPPEARING.

BUT THOSE ARE DISAPPEARING.

>> IT RANGES FROM MAINE TO >> IT RANGES FROM MAINE TO VIRGINIA TO BREEDING AND VIRGINIA TO BREEDING AND VIRGINIA DOWN TO FLORIDA FOR VIRGINIA DOWN TO FLORIDA FOR NONBREEDING.

NONBREEDING.

SO WE ONLY HAVE A WINTRYING SO WE ONLY HAVE A WINTRYING POPULATION HERE.

POPULATION HERE.

THE -- WINTERING POPULATION THE -- WINTERING POPULATION HERE.

HERE.

THEY'VE BEEN TRENDING DOWN SINCE THEY'VE BEEN TRENDING DOWN SINCE 1998.

1998.

>> LISTING THEM FOR THE >> LISTING THEM FOR THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT HAS BEEN ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT HAS BEEN DELAYED.

DELAYED.

TWO -- TO 2023.

TWO -- TO 2023.

VO GET -- SO GETTING AS MUCH VO GET -- SO GETTING AS MUCH INFORMATION AREA WHERE RATE INFORMATION AREA WHERE RATE NOW -- WHERE THEY ARE RIGHT NOW NOW -- WHERE THEY ARE RIGHT NOW IS ESSENTIAL.

IS ESSENTIAL.

>> IT'S AN INDICATOR OF THEIR >> IT'S AN INDICATOR OF THEIR HABITAT BEING SQUEEZED OUT OF HABITAT BEING SQUEEZED OUT OF EXISTENCE AS MARSHES GET PUSHED EXISTENCE AS MARSHES GET PUSHED UP BY SEA LEVEL RISE.

UP BY SEA LEVEL RISE.

AND SALTMARSHES DO A LOT OF AND SALTMARSHES DO A LOT OF IMPORTANT THINGS ON THE COAST.

IMPORTANT THINGS ON THE COAST.

>> SO MANY THINGS.

>> SO MANY THINGS.

CARBON, STORM PROTECTION, CARBON, STORM PROTECTION, FLOODING PROTECTION.

FLOODING PROTECTION.

THEY DO EVERYTHING.

THEY DO EVERYTHING.

>> YES.

>> YES.

THEY'RE A BUFFER BEFORE OUR THEY'RE A BUFFER BEFORE OUR COASTLINE.

COASTLINE.

SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE GOOD BUFFER OF MARSH TO THE GOOD BUFFER OF MARSH TO PROTECT YOUR COASTLINE AND PROTECT YOUR COASTLINE AND PROVIDE ABBI AT THAT TIME FOR -- PROVIDE ABBI AT THAT TIME FOR -- HABITAT FOR MULTIPLE SEE, -- HABITAT FOR MULTIPLE SEE, -- SCEESHES SPECIES.

SCEESHES SPECIES.

>> A MARSH CAN BE DEFINED BY THE >> A MARSH CAN BE DEFINED BY THE AMOUNT OF TIME IN A YEAR THAT AMOUNT OF TIME IN A YEAR THAT THE SOIL IS WET OR MOIST AND THE SOIL IS WET OR MOIST AND WHETHER IT'S ANOXIC OR LACKING WHETHER IT'S ANOXIC OR LACKING OXYGEN.

OXYGEN.

>> AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE A >> AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE A LOT OF SPIKEY VEGETATION HERE.

LOT OF SPIKEY VEGETATION HERE.

>> MARSH ELEVATION IS LIKE >> MARSH ELEVATION IS LIKE REALLY RELEVANT TO WHAT PLANTS REALLY RELEVANT TO WHAT PLANTS GROW WHERE.

GROW WHERE.

WE'RE SURROUNDED BY THIS SPIKEY WE'RE SURROUNDED BY THIS SPIKEY JUNKET.

JUNKET.

BUT FARTHER OUT T DEEPER YOU BUT FARTHER OUT T DEEPER YOU GET, THE CLOSER YOU GET TO THE GET, THE CLOSER YOU GET TO THE WATER, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A WATER, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A DIFFERENT BREAKDOWN OF PLANT DIFFERENT BREAKDOWN OF PLANT SPECIES AND THAT'S BECAUSE SPECIES AND THAT'S BECAUSE CERTAIN PLANT SPECIES ARE MORE CERTAIN PLANT SPECIES ARE MORE TOLERANT TO SALTWATER.

TOLERANT TO SALTWATER.

>> BUT EVEN MARSH PLANTS HAVE >> BUT EVEN MARSH PLANTS HAVE THEIR LIMITS.

THEIR LIMITS.

HIGH WATER LEVELS CAN ACTUALLY HIGH WATER LEVELS CAN ACTUALLY DROWN A MARSH IF THE SOIL NEVER DROWN A MARSH IF THE SOIL NEVER DRIES OUT.

DRIES OUT.

RESEARCHERS LIKE MORAY AND EVAN RESEARCHERS LIKE MORAY AND EVAN ARE COLLECTING DATA TO FIGURE ARE COLLECTING DATA TO FIGURE OUT HOW MARSHES WILL BE IMPACTED OUT HOW MARSHES WILL BE IMPACTED AS SEA LEVELS CONTINUE TO RISE.

AS SEA LEVELS CONTINUE TO RISE.

>> IT'S A VERY SMALL ELEVATION >> IT'S A VERY SMALL ELEVATION GRADIENT THAT LEADS TO THESE GRADIENT THAT LEADS TO THESE PLANT COMMUNITIES.

PLANT COMMUNITIES.

IF THIS WATER COMES UP EVEN A IF THIS WATER COMES UP EVEN A LITTLE MORE, THIS IS GOING TO LITTLE MORE, THIS IS GOING TO FURNISH INTO -- IT'S GOING TO GO FURNISH INTO -- IT'S GOING TO GO AWAY BECAUSE THAT'S THE SLIGHTLY AWAY BECAUSE THAT'S THE SLIGHTLY ELEVATION PLAT SPECIES.

ELEVATION PLAT SPECIES.

>> IN THE -- PLANT SPECIES.

>> IN THE -- PLANT SPECIES.

>> IN THE PAST THEY'VE MOVED >> IN THE PAST THEY'VE MOVED INLAND TO HIGHER GROUND, BUT INLAND TO HIGHER GROUND, BUT TODAY THERE'S NOWHERE FOR THEM TODAY THERE'S NOWHERE FOR THEM TO GO.

TO GO.

>> WE'RE SHORTENING OUR MARSHES, >> WE'RE SHORTENING OUR MARSHES, WE SEEING COASTAL SQUEEZE.

WE SEEING COASTAL SQUEEZE.

SO WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT OR ROAD SO WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT OR ROAD AND THE MARSH HAS NOWHERE ELSE AND THE MARSH HAS NOWHERE ELSE IT CAN GO.

IT CAN GO.

IT GETS SQUEEZED UNTIL IT IT GETS SQUEEZED UNTIL IT DISAPPEARS.

DISAPPEARS.

>> THERE'S A LOT OF POPBRASION >> THERE'S A LOT OF POPBRASION GROWTH -- POPULATION GROWTH GROWTH -- POPULATION GROWTH ACROSS THE COAST.

ACROSS THE COAST.

SO THE TRENDS ARE NOT LOOKING TO SO THE TRENDS ARE NOT LOOKING TO TURN IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION.

TURN IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION.

>> WE NEED TO PLAN AHEAD FOR >> WE NEED TO PLAN AHEAD FOR THESE THINGS BOTH GORE HUMAN THESE THINGS BOTH GORE HUMAN INFRASTRUCTURE BUT ALSO FOR LIKE INFRASTRUCTURE BUT ALSO FOR LIKE ECOSYSTEM SERVICES TO BE ABLE TO ECOSYSTEM SERVICES TO BE ABLE TO MIG -- MIGRATE INLAND AND WE'RE MIG -- MIGRATE INLAND AND WE'RE IN THE DOING THAT.

IN THE DOING THAT.

>> BY GATHERING DATA ABOUT >> BY GATHERING DATA ABOUT TIDES, ELEVATION, AND SEA LEVEL TIDES, ELEVATION, AND SEA LEVEL RISES, THEY CAN USE MODEL TO RISES, THEY CAN USE MODEL TO PREDICT WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE PREDICT WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.

FUTURE.

>> IT'S GONE UP AND DOWN >> IT'S GONE UP AND DOWN FOREVER.

FOREVER.

BUT IT'S AT AN BUT IT'S AT AN ACCELERATEDPATION, WHICH IS WHY ACCELERATEDPATION, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE HAVING MORE INUNDATION.

WE'RE HAVING MORE INUNDATION.

>> MODELING CAN HELP US SEE >> MODELING CAN HELP US SEE WHERE WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO BE WHERE WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO BE MOST IMPACTERRED -- IMPACTED.

MOST IMPACTERRED -- IMPACTED.

WE CAN HOPEFULLY TARGET WHERE WE WE CAN HOPEFULLY TARGET WHERE WE CAN DO SPECIFIC MANAGEMENT CAN DO SPECIFIC MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES.

STRATEGIES.

>> LEARNING MORE ABOUT WHAT'S >> LEARNING MORE ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING TO SPECIES LIKE THE HAPPENING TO SPECIES LIKE THE SALTMARSH SPARROW CAN HELP US SALTMARSH SPARROW CAN HELP US MAKE DECISIONS NOW TO ENSURE MAKE DECISIONS NOW TO ENSURE THAT THERE ARE MARSHES ALONG THE THAT THERE ARE MARSHES ALONG THE COAST IN THE FUTURE.

COAST IN THE FUTURE.

>> IF WE SEE THAT CERTAIN HUGE >> IF WE SEE THAT CERTAIN HUGE PORTIONS OF THE MARSHLAND THAT PORTIONS OF THE MARSHLAND THAT THEY DEPEND ON DURING THE WINTER THEY DEPEND ON DURING THE WINTER ARE DISAPPEARING, THEN WE HAVE ARE DISAPPEARING, THEN WE HAVE TO DECIDE, OKAY, WE HAVE THIS TO DECIDE, OKAY, WE HAVE THIS MUCH PROPERTY.

MUCH PROPERTY.

WE'RE EXPECTING TO LOSE THIS WE'RE EXPECTING TO LOSE THIS PERCENTAGE OF IT.

PERCENTAGE OF IT.

WHERE ARE THOSE MARSHES GOING TO WHERE ARE THOSE MARSHES GOING TO GO, ARE THEY GOING TO MIGRATE GO, ARE THEY GOING TO MIGRATE IN?

IN?

SHOULD WE ACQUIRE PROPERTY TO SHOULD WE ACQUIRE PROPERTY TO MAKE SURE THIS SPECIES HAS A MAKE SURE THIS SPECIES HAS A PLACE TO MOVE?

PLACE TO MOVE?

>> WHERE DO YOU PUT YOUR >> WHERE DO YOU PUT YOUR RESOURCES?

RESOURCES?

DO YOU PUT IT IN -- TRYING TO DO YOU PUT IT IN -- TRYING TO CONSERVE THAT MARSH BY BUILDING CONSERVE THAT MARSH BY BUILDING IT UP MORE.

IT UP MORE.

THIS IS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THIS IS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WE'RE TRYING TO HELP MANAGERS WE'RE TRYING TO HELP MANAGERS ANSWER.

ANSWER.

IF WE CAN CREATE THIS FRAMEWORK IF WE CAN CREATE THIS FRAMEWORK OF UNDERSTANDING, THE IMPACT OF UNDERSTANDING, THE IMPACT WHERE THIS MARSH MIGHT DISAPPEAR WHERE THIS MARSH MIGHT DISAPPEAR OR WHERE IT MIGHT GO, WEB OR WHERE IT MIGHT GO, WEB HOPEFUL HELP THE MANAGERS MAKE HOPEFUL HELP THE MANAGERS MAKE DECISIONS LIKE THAT.

DECISIONS LIKE THAT.

>>> WELL, SOME DISAPPOINTING >>> WELL, SOME DISAPPOINTING NEWS FROM THE WORLD OF HORSE NEWS FROM THE WORLD OF HORSE RACING.

RACING.

CURKT DERBY WINNER RICH STRIKE CURKT DERBY WINNER RICH STRIKE WILL NOT PUN IN THE PREAKNESS.

WILL NOT PUN IN THE PREAKNESS.

THE -- RUN IN THE PREAKNESS.

THE -- RUN IN THE PREAKNESS.

THE OWNER MADE THE STUNNING THE OWNER MADE THE STUNNING ANNOUNCEMENT SAYING THIS HORSE ANNOUNCEMENT SAYING THIS HORSE NEEDS THE REST AT MAKING ONE OF NEEDS THE REST AT MAKING ONE OF THE BIGGEST STRETCH RUNS IN THE BIGGEST STRETCH RUNS IN HISTORY.

HISTORY.

THE 80:1 COMING OUT OF NOWHERE.

THE 80:1 COMING OUT OF NOWHERE.

DAWSON'S DECISION MEANS THIS DAWSON'S DECISION MEANS THIS THERE BE NO POSSIBILITY OF A THERE BE NO POSSIBILITY OF A TRIPLE CROWN WINNER THIS YEAR, TRIPLE CROWN WINNER THIS YEAR, THOUGH RICH STRIKE WILL RUN IN THOUGH RICH STRIKE WILL RUN IN THE BELMONT STAKES ON JUNE THE BELMONT STAKES ON JUNE 11th IN NEW YORK.

11th IN NEW YORK.

>>> ON THE NEXT EDITION OF THE >>> ON THE NEXT EDITION OF THE OKLAHOMA NEWS REPORT, WE'RE OKLAHOMA NEWS REPORT, WE'RE GOING TO TRAVEL WEST TO WOODWARD GOING TO TRAVEL WEST TO WOODWARD TO LEARN MORE ABOUT HOW YOU TO LEARN MORE ABOUT HOW YOU LEARN TO DO THIS.

LEARN TO DO THIS.

CLIMB A 200-FOOT WIND TURBINE CLIMB A 200-FOOT WIND TURBINE AND REPAIR IT.

AND REPAIR IT.

IT'S A GREAT CAREER IF YOU'RE IT'S A GREAT CAREER IF YOU'RE NOT AFRAID OF HEIGHTS.

NOT AFRAID OF HEIGHTS.

AND WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE YOU AND WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE YOU THIS WEEK WITH A GLAD BLOWING THIS WEEK WITH A GLAD BLOWING DEMONSTRATION AT OKLAHOMA CITY'S DEMONSTRATION AT OKLAHOMA CITY'S BLUE SAGE STUDIO, FORECASTED AND BLUE SAGE STUDIO, FORECASTED AND EDITED BY CASEY FERGUSON.

EDITED BY CASEY FERGUSON.

I'M RICH LUND.

I'M RICH LUND.

STAY WELL AND STAY TUNED TO STAY WELL AND STAY TUNED TO OETA.

OETA.