
May 14, 2021
Season 8 Episode 45 | 57m 48sVideo has Closed Captions
Lawmakers consider increasing regulations on the owners of medical marijuana grow farms.
Lawmakers consider increasing regulations on the owners of medical marijuana grow farms. An update on several unfinished projects regarding the Tulsa Race Massacre. Did you know that the small town of Hominy once played an important part in the growth of professional football? Plus, both sides weigh in on a bill that would prohibit the teaching of “Critical Race Theory” in Oklahoma.
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May 14, 2021
Season 8 Episode 45 | 57m 48sVideo has Closed Captions
Lawmakers consider increasing regulations on the owners of medical marijuana grow farms. An update on several unfinished projects regarding the Tulsa Race Massacre. Did you know that the small town of Hominy once played an important part in the growth of professional football? Plus, both sides weigh in on a bill that would prohibit the teaching of “Critical Race Theory” in Oklahoma.
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>> WE WANT TO INVEST IN OKLAHOMANS AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF YOKESSANS GET -- OKLAHOMANS GET TO KEEP MORE OF THEIR MONEY.
>> CRITICAL RACE THEORY IN OKLAHOMA.
>> WE CAN AND SHOULD TEACH THIS HISTORY WITHOUT LABELING A YOUNG CHILD AS AN OPPRESSOR.
>> NO ONE TELL US WHERE THAT WAS HAPPENING.
SO THIS IS, IT'S A BAD SOLUTION LOOKING FOR A PROBLEM.
>> A PROGRESS REPORT ON THE MANY PROJECTS UNDER CONSTRUCTION WITH THE CENTENNIAL TULSA RACE MASSACRE LESS THAN A MONTH AWAY.
>> THE 1921 TULSA RACE MASSACRE AND THE HISTORY BEHIND THIS INCREDIBLE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY WILL PROBABLY BECOME A HOUSEHOLD NAME AROUND THE WORLD.
>> THIS NFL FIRST ROUND DRAFT PICK HAILS FROM A SMALL OKLAHOMA TOWN WITH HISTORIC TIES TO THE LEAGUE HE'LL BE PLAYING IN NEXT FALL.
>> BETWEEN THOSE CONSECUTIVE VICTORIES AND THIS INTIMIDATION FACTOR, THEY BECAME KNOWN AS THE TERRORS OF THE MIDWEST.
>>> THOSE STORIES AND MUCH MORE NEXT ON THE OKLAHOMA NEWS REPORT.
>>> HELLO, EVERYONE.
AND WELCOME TO THE OKLAHOMA NEWS REPORT.
IT'S THE HEAVIEST LIFT OF EVERY LEGISLATIVE SESSION.
PRODUCING A MANDATED BUDGET FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
ON THURSDAY THE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT AN AGREEMENT ON 2022 SPEND HANDGUN BEEN REACHED.
WE HAVE TEAM COVERAGE OF A DEAL THAT INCREASES FUNDING FOR ALMOST ALL MAJOR AGENCIES INCLUDING A RECORD AMOUNT OF MUP FOR EDUCATION.
WE BEGIN WITH LEGISLATIVE CORRESPONDENT JASON DOYLES' REPORT ON THE PROPOSAL.
>> MEMBERS OF J CAB, PLEASE STAY TUNED.
WE COULD HAVE A MEETING LATER TODAY.
>> Reporter: THAT ANNOUNCEMENT ON THURSDAY MORNING WAS THE FIRST HINT A BUDGET AGREEMENT HAD BEEN REACHED BY LEGISLATORS.
FIVE HOURS LATER, THE GOVERNOR JOINED THE LEGISLATIVE LEADERSHIP.
>> WE'VE REACHED AN AGREEMENT ON THE STATE BUDGET.
>> Reporter: THE PROPOSED $8.3 BILLION BUDGET INCLUDES UNPRECEDENTED FUNDING FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION, PAYS FOR THE MEDICAID EXPANSION, PROVIDES FOR CORPORATE AND INDIVIDUAL TAX CUTS, RESTORES THE STATE EARNED INCOME TAX CREDIT, AND DEPOSITS $800 MILLION INTO SAVINGS.
>> AND BRINGING OUR SAVINGS ACCOUNT BACK OVER ONE BILLION DOLLARS, KEEPING US PROTECTED FROM ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS TO US IN THE FUTURE.
>> WE WERE ABLE TO ACTUALLY RESTORE THE CUTS AND INVEST STRATEGICALLY IN ECONOMIC DIVERSIFICATION, EDUCATION, INFRASTRUCTURE.
>> Reporter: FOR THE FIRST TIME, PUBLIC EDUCATION IS RECEIVING MORE THAN $3 BILLION FROM THE LEGISLATURE.
IT AMOUNTS TO NEARLY $172 MILLION OR 6% MORE THAN THE CURRENT BUDGET.
THAT INCLUDES $60 MILLION FOR INCREASED TEXTBOOK REPLACEMENT COSTS AND PAYS FOR SMALLER CLASS SIZES FOR KIND AND FIRST -- KINDERGARTEN AND FIRST GRADE.
>> I KNOW THAT THE HOUSE REPUBLICAN NUMBER IS A BIT LOWER.
BUT WE DO AGREE THAT WITH THE QOORK WE DID -- WORK WE DID ON TEACHER SALARIES A FEW YEARS AGO, THAT THE NEXT STEP IS REALLY INVESTING IN CLASSROOMS.
IT'S LONG OVERDUE.
AND I THINK OUR TEACHERS, OUR COUNSELORS, OR ADMINISTRATORS WOULD TELL YOU THAT'S THE GREATEST NEED THAT THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW.
SO IT'S NICE TO HAVE SOME BIPARTISAN AGREEMENT ON THAT.
>> Reporter: DEMOCRATS WERE LOOKING FOR A LITTLE MORE IN EDUCATION FUNDING.
>> WE WANT TO INVEST $200 MILLION INTO OKLAHOMA CLASSROOMS AND WE ALSO WANT TO FUND SCHOOL COUNSELORS SO WE CAN GET TO A RATIO WHERE SCHOOL COUNSELORS CAN ACTUALLY COUNSEL STUDENTS AND WE KNOW THAT THE MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS OF STUDENTS HAVE NEVER BEEN HIRE.
>> Reporter: HOFFMEISTER WHO SERVES AS THE BOARD CHAIR, SAYS AFTER SUCH A VERY CHALLENGING YEAR IN THE WAKE OF THE PANDEMIC, THE BUDGET AGREEMENT ANNOUNCED THURSDAY IS TREMENDOUS NEWS FOR STUDENTS, TEACHERS, AND ALL OKLAHOMANS WHO BENEFIT FROM A STRONG EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM.
THE OTHER MAJOR TASK FOR BUDGET NEGOTIATORS WAS FINDING A WAY TO PAY FOR THE VOTER-MANDATED MEDICAID EXPANSION.
THE INITIAL 164 MILLION NEEDED WILL BE PAID FOR THROUGH FEDERAL STIMULUS FUNDS AND OTHER EXPANDED FUNDING FOR HEALTHCARE.
HOWEVER, THE SHOP FEE OR THE FEE PAID BY HOSPITALS TO SUPPORT HEALTHCARE ISSUES WILL BE INCREMENTAL INCREASED TO TAKE OVER WHEN THE FEDERAL FUNDING RUNS OUT.
>> WHEN WE GO FROM 2.5 TO THREE, THAT WILL KICK IN JANUARY.
SO FROM JULY TO JANUARY STILL AT THE 2.5 ON THE SHOP.
MEDICAID EXPANSION KICKING IN IN JULY.
THAT WILL BE AROUND 37 MILLION ON THIS YEAR.
WHENEVER WE MOVE THE FOLLOWING YEAR, TO THREE.5, THAT WOULD BE ABOUT 89 MILLION DOLLARS.
AND THEN THE FINAL YEAR, WE'RE AT 4%, ABOUT 135 MILLION.
>> Reporter: DEMOCRATS AGREE WITH USING FEDERAL STIMULUS FUNDS TO HELP PAY INITIAL COSTS OF EXPANDING MEDICAID.
>> I THINK THAT THAT IS A MORE SUSTAINABLE WAY TO DO THINGS.
BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE WISE TO USE THIS FEDERAL MONEY FOR THIS PURPOSE, FUND IT THIS WAY IN THE FIRST YEAR WHEN WE KNOW THE PRICE TAG IS GOING TO BE LARGER, GET A BETTER SENSE OF WHAT THE PROGRAM IS GOING TO COST IN FUTURE YEARS, AND THEN MAKE SURE THAT THE HOSPITALS ARE ABLE AND READY TO FUND THROUGH AN INCREASED DROP FEE.
>> Reporter: THE TAX CUTS INCLUDE CUTS FOR CORPORATE INCOME AND INDIVIDUAL INCOME TAX.
WHILE A CORPORATE TAX WON'T COMPLETELY GO AWAY, IT STILL PUTS THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA ON A BUSINESS-FRIENDLY CURVE.
>> I WOULD MENTION THAT ON THE CORPORATE TAX FOG FROM 6 TO 4, OF THE STATES THAT HAVE A CORPORATE TAX, THAT WOULD PUT US NUMBER 3.
THERE'S FIVE STATES THAT HAVE NO TAX.
>> Reporter: HE SAYS THE INDIVIDUAL INCOME TAX PUTS OKLAHOMA IN THE TOP 10 LOWER TAX STATES.
HOUSE DEMOCRATS WOULD HAVE LIKED ANOTHER TAX CUT, THIS ONE TARGETED AT GROCERIES.
>> WE'RE ONE OF JUST SIX STATES THAT STILL FULLY TAXES GROCERIES.
AND WE THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A GREAT WAY TO -- TO LOWER A TAX BURDEN ON FAMILIES THAT ARE JUST TRYING TO GET BY RIGHT NOW.
>> Reporter: FROM THIS POINT, THE LEGISLATURE HAS ABOUT TWO WEEKS TO PASS THE BUDGET BILLS AND ADJOURN THE SESSION.
THAT WORK BEGAN ON FRIDAY.
JASON DOYLE, THE OKLAHOMA NEWS REPORT.
>> JASON, THANK YOU.
>>> SEAN ASHLEY HAS BEEN DIGGING IN THE DETAILS.
HE JOINS US NOW WITH MORE ON WHAT STANDS OUT FROM HIS PERSPECTIVE.
>> WELL, IT A IT APPEARS EVERY AGENCY DOES WELL IN THIS BUDGET.
THERE'S ABOUT A 7.62% INCREASE IN OVERALL APPROPRIATIONS AFTER CUTS THE PRIOR YEAR.
HOWEVER, AS HOUSE MINORITY LEADER EMILY VIRGIN POINTED OUT, THAT DOES NOT MAKE UP FOR ALL THE REVENUE THATUPSES HAD LOST -- THAT AGENCIES HAD LOST IN THE YEARS LEADING UP TO LAST YEAR.
AND THE SENATE MINORITY LEADER POINTED OUT IT WAS ONLY ON THURSDAY LATE THURSDAY MORNING THAT THEY BEGAN TO SEE THE BUDGET NUMBERS, ONLY ABOUT FIVE HOURS BEFORE THE GOVERNOR AND OTHER REPUBLICAN LEGISLATIVE LEADERS WERE OUTLINING THIS AGREEMENT.
SO THEY HAVE YET TO HAVE TIME TO DIG INTO THOSE NUMBERS.
>> WELL, THIS WILL BEEN -- HAD BEEN HUNDREDS OF BILLS SIGNED INTO LAW.
GIVE ME THE BREAK DOWN THE GOVERNOR HAS SIGNED AND VETOED.
>> SO FAR LAWMAKERS HAVE SET MORE THAN 490 PIECES OF LEGISLATION TO GOVERNOR FALLIN FOR HIS -- GOVERNOR FOR HIS CONSIDERATION.
AND THAT'S A BIT MORE THAN WE USUALLY SEE AT THIS POINT IN THE SESSION.
SO FAR HE HAS SIGNED 481 OF THOSE.
HE'S VETOED 10.
AND HE ALLOWED ONE TO TAKE EFFECT WITHOUT HIS SIGNATURE.
IF YOU COMPARE THAT TO THE EIGHT YEARS THAT GOVERNOR FALLIN WAS IN OFFICE, THAT'S MORE THAN ANY YEAR WHILE SHE WAS SERVING.
THIS GOVERNOR SET A RECORD IN 2019 CONSIDERING 535 MEASURES.
WITH THE BUDGET BEING IMPLEMENTED, WE MAY BE APPROACHING THAT NUMBER ONCE AGAIN.
>> THE CHARTER SCHOOL BOARD RECEIVED AN UPDATE ON THE PROGRESS THAT EPIC IS MAKING TOWARD COMPLIANCE WITH THEIR RECENT SETTLEMENT.
HOW FAR HAS THE VIRTUAL CHARTER SCHOOL COME?
>> THEY'VE MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS ACCORDING TO THE CHART SCHOOL'S COMPLIANCE AUDITOR, BUT NEVADA A LONG WAY TO GO AS WELL.
ACCORDING TO THE AUDITOR, MORE THAN 13 OF THE REQUIREMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN PUT IN PLACE.
WHILE A NUMBER OF OTHERS ARE ALSO BEING FULFILLED.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME THERE'S A LOT THAT REMAINS TO BE DONE IN ORDER TO COME INTO COMPLETE COMPLIANCE WITH THAT AGREEMENT I.
>> FINAL QUESTION FOR YOU.
O.U.
HEALTH IS USING THE RECENTLY PASSED TAX CREDIT TO HELP TRAIN MORE DOCTORS AND NURSES TO SERVE OKLAHOMA.
SO HOW IS THAT GOING TO WORK?
>> YES, THIS IS A RATHER INTERESTING PROGRAM.
THE HEALTH CENTER WILL NOT PAY SALES TAX ON GOODS AND SERVICES WHICH IT PURCHASES, BUT IT MUST TAKE THAT MONEY AND INVEST IN EDUCATING 70 MEDICAL RESIDENTS OVER THREE YEARS AND 110 NEW NURSES ANNUALLY AS WELL 15 NURSE PRACTITIONERS EACH YEAR.
LEGISLATION THAT IS STILL PENDING BEFORE LAWMAKERS WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO FILE A REPORT EACH YEAR WITH THE GOVERNOR, THE SENATE PRO TEM, AND THE HOUSE SPEAKER AS WELL AS THE APPROPRIATIONS CHAIRMAN TO SHOW JUST HOW WELL THEY'RE DOING IN MEETING THOSE OBLIGATIONS.
>> SEAN, I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A VERY BUSY DAY FOR YOU.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> YOU'RE VERY WELCOME.
>>> IT'S BEEN A WEEK OF HEAVILY DEBATED.
THE GOVERNOR SIGNED A BILL THAT PROHIBITS CRITICAL RACE HEARINGS IN O.U.
SKILLS.
>> THIS BILL CLEARLY ENDORSES TEACHING TO THE OKLAHOMA ACADEMIC STANDARDS, WHICH WERE WRITTEN BY OKLAHOMA EDUCATORS.
AND INCLUDE EVENTS LIKE THE OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING, THE TULSA RACE MASSACRE, THE EMERGENCE OF BLACK WALL STREET.
OKLAHOMA LUNCH COUNTER SITINS AND THE TRAIL OF TEARS.
WE CAN AND SHOULD TEACH THIS HISTORY WITHOUT LABELING A YOUNG CHILD AS AN OPPRESSOR OR REQUIRING HE OR SHE FEEL GUILT OR SHAME BASED ON THEIR RACE OR SEX.
>> THE LANGUAGE OF THE BILL PROHIBITS INSTRUCTORS FROM TEACHING, QUOTE, THAT ONE RACE OR SEX IS INHERENTLY SUPERIOR TO ANOTHER, AND THAT AGAIN, QUOTING, AN INDIVIDUAL BY HAVE YOUR VIRTUE OF HIS OR HER RACE OR SEX IS INHERENTLY RACIST, SEXIST, OR PRESSIVE.
-- OR OPPRESSIVE.
THEY SAY NOTHING THAT WYCHE -- LIKE THAT WOULD BE TAUGHT AND FOR THE GOVERNOR TO VETO A BILL.
>> NO ONE IS TEACHING A CHILD THAT THEY ARE INHERENTLY SUPERIOR TO ANOTHER CHILD.
THAT'S NOT BEING TAUGHT.
THAT WAS IN THE BILL.
WHO'S GOING TO ARGUE THAT?
WHAT WE CAN SAY THAT YOU CANNOT LEGISLATE FEELINGS AND THERE'S A LINE THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, NO STUDENT SHOULD BE MADE TO FEEL DISCOMFORT OR GUILTY BECAUSE OF THEIR RACE OR SEX.
AGAIN, NO ONE IS TEACHING THAT.
>> THE NEW LAW WHICH WENT INTO EFFECT IMMEDIATELY ALSO RESTRICTS THE STATE'S UNIVERSITIES AND COLLEGES TO REQUIRE GENDER OR RACIAL SENSITIVITY TRAINING FOR ITS STUDENTS.
THE OKLAHOMA HEALTH DEPARTMENT SAYMAN ANNOUNCE OGTHIRD THAT THE PFIZER COVID-19 VACCINE IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR CHILDREN AGES 12 TO 15, A NUMBER THAT SHOULD BOOST THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS IN OKLAHOMA.
1.2 MILLION PEOPLE ARE NOW FULLY VACCINATED IN OUR STATE.
EVERYTHING ELSE IS TRENDING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
THE DAILY AVERAGE OF NEW CASES DOWN TO 171 FROM 192 LAST FRIDAY.
HOSPITALIZATIONS STAND AT 130 DOWN FROM 190.
AND THE LAST SEVEN DAYS, 34 PEOPLE HAVE DIED FROM COVID.
>>> THE CENTENNIAL OF THE TULSA RACE MASSACRE WILL BE OBSERVED MAY 28th THROUGH JUNE 1st AND THERE'S ACTIVITY THROUGHOUT THE GREENWOOD DISTRICT TO COMPLETE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE THE MYRIAD OF PROJECTS UNDER CONSTRUCTION THAT WILL ENHANCE THE ABILITY TO SHARE THE STORY OF BLACK WALL STREET DURING THE TERRIBLE DAYS IN 1921.
WHILE IT MAY NOT LOOK LIKE IT FROM THE OUTSIDE, THE CHAIRMAN OF THE CENTENNIAL COMMISSION SAYS THE GREENWOOD RISING HISTORY CENTER WILL OPEN ON TIME TO THE PUBLIC ON JUNE 2nd.
>> WE WANT TO HAVE GREENWOOD RISING HISTORY CENTER OPEN AND IT WILL START WITH THE SYMBOLIC RAILROAD TRACKS, BECAUSE BLACK PEOPLE USED TO JUST LIVE JUST ACROSS THE TRACKS.
AND WHEN YOU STEP INTO THE BUILDING, YOU'LL STEP ACROSS RAILROAD TRACKS INTO THE STORY.
>> THE HISTORY CENTER WILL FEATURE FOUR DISTINCT GALLERIES FOCUSING ON THRIVING, PRECAS TER COMMUNITIES ACROSS OKLAHOMA.
THE -- PREMASTER COMMUNITIES ACROSS OKLAHOMA.
ANOTHER GALLERY WILL FOCUS ON GREENWOOD'S RECONSTRUCTION AND SECOND DECLINE, LEADING UP TO THE FOURTH AND FINAL GALLERY.
>> THEM YOU END UP IN THIS CHAMBER, FINAL EXHIBIT, CALLED, JOURNEY TO RECONCILIATION.
AND THAT JOURNEY IS REALLY THE TRUE WORK OF GREENWOOD RISING.
WILL BE WILL -- PEOPLE WILL SIT IN AN AMPHITHEATER SIZE ROOM, EQUIPPED WITH PRESENTATION AND MONITORS FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF HAVING PROGRAM, THE DISCUSSION ABOUT HAVING -- PROGRAMMATIC DISCUSSION ABOUT RACE.
>> HE'S PLDNNED THIS MOMENT DOWN TO THE MINUTE.
>> 11:29 A.M. TO BE EXACT.
WE'LL HAVE A DEDICATION CEREMONY RIGHT HERE ON GREENWOOD AND OPEN UP AND DEDICATE GREENWOOD RISING.
11:29 GIVES A REFERENCE TO WHEN MARTIAL LAW WAS DECLARED AT THE END OF THE MASTER.
>> IT IS FAR FROM THE ONLY PROJECT SPRINTING TOWARDS COMPLETION.
JUST DOWN GREENWOOD AVENUE, THE BURNING CHAPEL A AND E CHURCH WILL BE COMPLETING A RENOVATION IN TIME FOR THE CENTENNIAL.
AND ACROSS THE STREET, A BEAUTIFUL NEW WALKWAY.
>> THE PATHWAY TO HOPE IS JUST LIKE -- A LOT RAL PATHWAY A CONNECTOR, BETWEEN THE GREENWOOD -- AND THIS WONDERFUL PARK THAT'S DESIGNED TO BE REFLECTIVE AND COMMEMORATIVE THIS HISTORY.
>> PATHWAY TO HOPE HAS MULTIPLE PURPOSES, ONE OF WHICH IS TO BRING A VISUAL REPRESENTATION TO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A COMMUNITY DECIDES TO BUILD AN INTERSTATE HIGHWAY THROUGH THE HEART OF A COMMUNITY IN -- AND A NEIGHBORHOOD.
SECOND DESTRUCTION, THE SECOND DEATH NEL OF GREENWOOD'S SECOND DECLINE WAS THE BUILDING OF THE I-244 INTERSTATE HIGHWAY.
>> THE PATHWAY TO HOPE WILL HAVE A RIBBON CUTTING SAYRE ON MOY -- CEREMONY ON THE 28th.
>> CARVER MIDDLE SCHOOL CALLED AND SAID THEY WANTED TO BRING THE WHOLE ENTIRE SCHOOL.
I-GRADE, SEVENTH GREAT, AND SIXTH GREAT.
AND SO TODAY WAS THE BEGINNING OF BRINGING OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOL INTO THEIR OWN DISTRICT, BECAUSE CARVER SITS IN THE GREENWOOD DISTRICT.
>> STUDENTS MARCHED MORE THAN TWO MILES ON A TOUR OF THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD.
>> THE QUESTIONS THAT THEY ASKED WAS VERY SPECIFIC.
YOU KNOW, WANTING TO KNOW WHERE PEOPLE WERE, WHERE THEIR BUSINESSES RIGHT HERE -- WERE THEIR BEST RIGHT HERE OR RIGHT HERE?
AND THEN WHEN YOU TELL THEM, NO, THE BUSINESSES WERE ALL THE WAY DOWN GREENWOOD TO WHERE YOU ARE, AT CARVER, THAT THIS WAS A WHOLE ENTIRE PLACE.
IT'S NOT JUST ONE LITTLE CORNER OF GREENWOOD AND ARCHER.
NO, IT'S ALL THE WAY DOWN.
>> THESE HISTORIC BOUNDARIES WILL BE COMMEMORATED WITH NEW MARKERS IN THE SUMMER.
VEALING THE VISITORS THE TRUE SCALE OF WHAT GREENWOOD HAS BEEN AND WHAT IT COULD BE AGAIN.
>> WHEN THESE PEOPLE COME, THEY'RE GONNA TELL US ABOUT THE GOLDEN AGE OF GREENWOOD.
HOW IT ONCE WAS AND THAT'S WHAT I LIKE TO HEAR, BECAUSE I WANTED TO GET BACK TO THAT POINT AGAIN.
SO THEY'RE GONNA TELL US ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE 600 BUSINESSES THAT WAS HERE AFTER THE MASSACRE.
YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR THESE STORIES FROM THE DESCENDENTS OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAD THESE BUSINESSES, THE GROCERY STORES, THE HABERDASHERIES, THE -- THE HAIR SALONS, THE RESTAURANTS.
>> FREEDOM CULVER III IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE GREENWOOD CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
>> THE BUILDING WE'RE IN NOW WAS A BED AND BREAKFAST AND IT WAS PART OF THE GREEN BOOK DIRECTORY, THE THIRD FLOOR WAS.
>> AND WITH THE SEN SEN 10 -- CENTENNIAL AROUND THE CORNER, IT'S AN EXCITING TIME TO STOP BY THE CHAMBER.
>> WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE QIEDGED OF A HOME GOING -- KIND OF A HOME-GOING.
TO OBSERVE 100 YEARS LATER, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAS CHANGED, ANY PROGRESS, WHO IS STILL HERE, WHAT'S INVOLVED WITH THE DISTRICT.
SO THAT IS EXCITING TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS, BECAUSE IT'S ALL ABOUT THE FUTURE.
>> THAT PROGRESS AND EXCITEMENT IS DRAWING MEDIA ATTENTION FROM AROUND THE WORLD.
ARMSTRONG SAYS ETBEGAN WITH THE RELEASE OF THE "THE WATCHMAN" ON HBO.
>> TWO OR THREE WEEKS I WAS ON DAILY PHONE CALLS BACK TO BACK FROM EVERY MAJOR NEWS OUTLET IN THE COUNTRY, AND IT RAN THE GUM GAMUT, FROM MSNBC TO FOX NEWS TO CNN.
TO EVEN MAGAZINES AND NEWSPAPERS, WALL STREET JOURNAL, "NEW YORK TIMES," BBC.
THE ONE GREAT THING OF THIS AND THAT BEFORE THIS IS OVER WITH, IT'S PROBABLY THE 1921 TULSA RACE MASSACRE, AND THE HISTORY BEHIND THIS INCREDIBLE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY, WILL PROBABLY BECOME A HOUSEHOLD NAME AROUND THE WORLD.
>> ABOUT A MILE WEST OF THE GREENWOOD DISTRICT SITS THE CITY'S NEWEST PUBLIC ART DISPLAY.
IT'S CALLED HIGH LIGHT, A 430,000 DOLLAR SCULPTURE AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE COX BUSINESS CONVENTION CENTER.
THE WORK IS THE FINAL PIECE OF A $55 MILLION RENOVATION PAID FOR WITH VISION TULSA FUNDING.
>>> THE ST. FRANCIS HEALTH SYSTEM IN TULSA AND BLUE CROSS AND BLUE SHIELD OF OKLAHOMA HAVE FAILED TO REACH AN AGREEMENT ON A NEW CONTRACT AND THAT MEANS PATIENTS TO ACCESS THE ST. FRANCIS HOSPITAL AND CLINICS WILL NO LONGER BE COVERED AFTER JULY 29th T. CURRENT CONTRACT ENDED ON APRIL 30th.
THE PATIENTS WILL HAVE 90 DAYS TO FIND A NEW INSURANCE PROVIDER IF THE CURRENT IMPASSE IS NOT RESOLVED.
>>> TWO WORKERS WERE FOUND DEAD ON FRIDAY MORNING.
THEY'D BEEN DRILLING CORE SAMPLES 80 FEET DOWN FROM THE TOP OF A DAM WHEN AN EXPLOSION OCCURRED ON WEDNESDAY.
A THIRD WORKER MANAGED TO ESCAPE AND WAS TREATED FOR INJURIES.
THE DAM ITSELF WAS NOT CAN THE PRI -- COMPROMISED AND AN INVESTIGATION IS UNDERWAY.
>>> OKLAHOMA CONGRESSMAN TOM COLE INTRODUCING FEDERAL LEGISLATION IN WASHINGTON, D.C. ON TUESDAY THAT WOULD ADDRESS CRIMINAL JURISDICTION IMPACTED BY THE McGURD RULING WHICH DECLARED THE RESERVATION LAND HAD NEVER BEEN DISBANDED.
BUT THE BILL APPLIES ONLY TO THE CHEROKEE AND CHIC SAW NATIONS.
THE LEADERS SUPPORT ITS PASSAGE.
THE CHIEF SAYS THE FEDERAL LEGISLATION WILL ENHANCE THE TRIBE'S SELF-DETERMINATION AND SOVEREIGNTY.
>> WHAT THIS LEGISLATION PROVIDES FOR IS THE OPTION OF COMPACTING SO THAT NON-NATIVES WHO COMMIT CRIMES ON OUR RESERVATION, JUST THE ONES WE'RE NOT ABLE TO PROSECUTE, CAN RECEIVE PROPER JUSTICE THROUGH THE STATE'S COURT SYSTEM.
FOR THOSE SMALL NUMBER OF CRIMES THAT STRETCH BEYOND THE STATUTE OF LIMATIONS, COMPACTING CAN ALSO HELP ENSURE THESE PERPETRATORS FACE THE JUSTICE THAT VICTIMS AND THEIR FAMILIES DESERVE.
>> THE MUSKOGEE CHIEF HAS TAKE AN MORE CAUTIOUS APPROACH TO THE BILL THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO NEGOTIATE CONTRACTS DEFINING INJURIES ADDITIONAL ISSUES.
>>> THE RAMIFICATIONS OF THE RULING IS ALSO THE FOCUS OF A REPORT PUBLISHED THIS WEEK BY TWO OF OUR CONTENT PARTNERS, KOSU RADIO AND THE FRONTIER.
IT INVOLVES A FATAL POLICE SHOOTING LAST YEAR IN GLENPOOL.
AND HOW THE POLICE ARE IS -- HAVE RESPONDED TO THE VICTIM'S FAMILY UNDER NEW PROCEDURES IMPOSED BY THE McGURT RULING.
ALLISON, LET'S START WITH THE BASIC FACTS OF THE CASE.
WHAT HAPPENED?
>> JULIAN ROSE WAS A 28-YEAR-OLD MUSKOGEE NATION CITIZEN.
HE WAS REALLY FUN, CARING, AND OUTGOING PERSON.
HE WAS STRUGGLING A LITTLE.
HIS LICENSE HAD BEEN SUSPENDED AND WAS JUST LOOKING FOR A WAY TO GET BACK ON HIS FEET.
SO ON DECEMBER 15S OF LAST YEAR, HE WAS AT HIS GRANDMOTHER'S HOUSE.
EMERGENCY MEDICAL WORKERS, GLOOP POLICE, AND A FIRE FIGHTER ARRIVED AT THE SCENE AROUND THAT TIME AT 7:45.
JULIAN ESTABLISHED -- STABBED AN OFFICER IN THE LEFT SHOULDER BUT WALKED AWAY AND WAS TASED A COUPLE OF TIMES.
AND THEN REPORTEDLY LUNGED AT THE OFFICERS.
ACCORDING TO WHAT THE FAMILY LEARNED, JULIAN WAS EITHER SICK -- SIX FEET, 12 TO 15 FEET, AND ONE ACCOUNT SAID 25 FEET FROM THE OFFICERS WHEN MULTIPLE SHOTS WERE FIRED AND I WILL CAN -- AND KILLING HIM.
THE U.S. ATTORNEY'S OFFICE THE CLEARED THE OFFICERS.
>> HOW IS THE RULING AFFECTED HOW THE POLICE HAVE RESPONDED TO THE VICTIM'S FAMILY?
>> HIS SHOOTING WAS INVESTIGATED BY FEDERAL AUTHORITIES.
THE FBI.
BUT WHEREAS BEFORE IT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN INVESTIGATED BY THE OSBY, POLICE HAVE TOLD THE FAMILY THAT BECAUSE OF THAT FACT, THEY MUST DIRECT ALL OF THEIR QUESTIONS TO THE FBI AND THE U.S.
ATTORNEYS OFFICE.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE COMMUNICATION HAS BROKE DOWN.
>> IS THIS A CASE OF POLICE BEING UNCERTAIN HOW TO PROCEED OR USE McGURT AS AN EXCUSE TO NOT RELEASE INFORMATION TO THE FAMILY AND THE MEDIA?
>> THE GLENPOOL POLICE DEPARTMENT UNDER THE OKLAHOMA OPEN RECORDS ACT AS A DUTY NO MATTER WHO IS CHARGE OF INVESTIGATING THE CASE TO TURN OVER THOSE RECORDS.
LIKE THE 911 CALL AND THE POLICE REPORT.
ESPECIALLY SINCE SINCE THERE WAS A SHOOTING INVOLVING AN OFFICER.
AND IF THEY DON'T TURN OVER THOSE RECORDS, I THINK THAT HAS A REALLY CHILLING EFFECT ON REPORTING.
THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE'S RECORDS AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ACCESS THEM AND I THINK THE FAMILY DEFINITELY FEELS THAT WAY.
>> ALLISON, ARE THE POLICE SHOOTINGS OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLE ON THE RISE IN OKLAHOMA?
>> OVERALL POLICE SHOOTINGS WERE DOWN IN 2020 FROM THE MID 50s TO THE MID 30s.
SHOOTINGS AMONG INDIGENOUS PEOPLE ROSE LAST YEAR AND NATIVE PEOPLE REPRESENTED 20% OF ALL FATAL SHOOTINGS LAST YEAR.
AND JULIAN WAS ONE OF THOSE SHOOTINGS.
>> SO WHAT IS THE FIX FOR A PROBLEM LIKE THIS?
DOES IT COME FROM THE LEGISLATURE, WASHINGTON, D.C., PERHAPS THE COURTS?
>> I HAVE SEEN A NUMBER OF LAWS THAT HAVE BEEN PASSED LIKE IDA'S LAW, FOR EXAMPLE, HERE IN OKLAHOMA, THAT SPECIFICALLY TARGETED AT MISSING AND MURDERED INDIGENOUS PEOPLE.
>> COORDINATED RESPONSE.
>> AND I THINK THAT'S THE MODEL.
IF WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING WHERE AGENCIES KIND OF WORK TOGETHER TO COORDINATE AND COMMUNICATE WITH FAMILIES, I THINK THAT'S THE FIX.
>> ALLISON HERRERA, A GREAT COLLABORATION, WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME ON THE SHOW.
>>> A FEDERAL JUDGE HAS RULED THAT A NATIONWIDE MORATORIUM ON EVICTIONS IS UNLAWFUL.
AND THAT COULD MEAN HUNDREDS OF OKLAHOMANS ARE IN JEOPARDY OF LOSING THEIR PLACE TO LIVE.
THE MORATORIUM HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR 14 MONTHS AND WILL REMAIN SO AT LEAST UNTIL A SCHEDULED HEARING WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.
THE GOOD NEWS FOR BOTH LANDLORDS AND RENTERS, OKLAHOMA STILL HAS ABOUT $200 MILLION IN FEDERAL RENTAL ASSISTANCE THAT CAN BE ACCESSED TO PAY BACK RENT OWED.
>>> THIS WEEK'S BUSINESS NEWS IS EXCITING FOR JOB SEEKERS.
THERE ARE MANY BUSINESSES EXPANDING OR LOCATING IN OKLAHOMA.
SO GET THOSE RESUMEs UP TO DATE.
HERE'S JASON DOYLE WITH THE OKLAHOMA BUSINESS REVIEW.
>> VERSA LIFT IS HANGING ITS HELP WANTED SIGN UP IN OKLAHOMA CITY.
NATIONWIDE THE COMPANY IS LOOKING TO ADD ABOUT 100 ENGINEERS, TECHNICIANS, AND OTHER WORKERS IN EIGHT LOCATIONS.
THEY MANUFACTURE BUCKET TRUCKS AND OTHER MAINTENANCE RELATED VEHICLES.
>>> TULSA IS GETTING A NEW $32 MILLION OPERATIONS FACILITY BUILT BY AMAZON.
IT WILL BE USED FOR SORTING PACKAGES AND IS EXPECTED TO BRING HUNDREDS OF JOBS TO THE AREA.
THE NEW AMAZON FACILITY SHOULD BE COMPLETED LATER THIS YEAR.
AMAZON ALREADY HAS A TWO AND A HALF MILLION SQUARE-FOOT FACILITY IN TULSA.
>>> ABOUT 300 NEW JOBS ARE EXPECTED IN TULSA THANKS TO CAT TECHNOLOGIES.
THE COMPANY PLANS TO BRING ITS THERMAL COMPONENTS UNIT.
THEY'LL EXPAND THAT FACILITY TO HAM THE NEW WORK.
THE COMPANY ALSO WILL ESTABLISH A NEW GLOBAL RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT CENTER IN TULSA.
>>> IT WAS EARLY FEBRUARY WHEN CHESAPEAKE ENERGY EMERGED FROM BANKRUPTCY AND NOW THE COMPANY IS REPORTING FIRST QUARTER NET INCOME OF $295 MILLION.
ON AN AVERAGE DAY DURING THE FIRST THREE MONTHS OF THIS YEAR, THEY PRODUCED AROUND 436,000 BARRELS OF OIL EQUIVALENT.
THEY EXPECT PRODUCTION IN 2022 AT THE SAME LEVEL BUT WITH A LARGER MIX OF NATURAL GAS.
>>> ENERGY SAW A PROFIT IN THE FIRST QUARTER FOR THE FIRST THREE MONTHS OF THIS YEAR, INCREASED TO 35 MILLION.
DURING THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2020, THEY HAD A LOSS OF 12.7 MILLION.
THE ENERGY COMPANY'S TOTAL PRODUCTION WAS 1.6 MILLION BARRELS OF OIL EQEFLINT WITH NATURAL GAS MAKING UP MORE THAN HALF OF THAT PRODUCTION FIGURE.
>>> OKLAHOMA CITY'S BOATHOUSE STRICT IS -- DISTRICT IS GOING THE DOGS.
BAR K IS OPENING A DOG PARK AND EVENT SPACE IN THE RIVER FRONT DISTRICT.
THE FACILITY IS EXPECTED TO BE 21,700 SQUARE FEET WITH A 9,000 SQUARE-FOOT INDOOR DOG PARK AND ANOTHER TWO-ACRE DOG PARK OUTSIDE AS WELL AS A CONCERT STAGE AND A RAMP INTO THE OKLAHOMA RIVER.
BAR K IS EXPECTED TO OPEN NEXT YEAR.
I'M JASON DOYLE, THE OKLAHOMA BUSINESS REVIEW.
>>> IN LATE APRIL LINE ZACHER -- LINEBACKER CAISSON COLLINS WAS DRAFTED IN THE NFL DRAFT.
THE ARIZONA CARDINALS PICKING THE ALL-AMERICAN 16th OVERALL.
NOW, COLLINS HAILS FROM HOMINY, A SMALL TOWN, THAT HAS A REMARKABLE HISTORY WITH PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL AND THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE.
REPORTER STEVE SHAW TRAVELS TO OSAGE COUNTY.
>> WITH THE 16th PICK IN THE 2021 NFL DRAFT, THE ARIZONA CARDINALS SELECT CAISSON COLLINS.
-- ZAVIN COLLINS.
>> THE METEORIC RISE IS QUITE THE STORY.
TULSA WAS THE ONLY MAJOR COLLEGE TO OFFER SALVEIN A FOOTBALL SCHOLARSHIP.
HE WAS RATED A TWO-STAR PROSPECT, GRADUATED FROM HIGH SCHOOL FOUR YEARS AGO.
WHERE HE GREW UP MAYBE SHOULD HAVE GIVEN THOSE EXPERTS MORE OF A CLUE.
>> THE GUY IS HIGHLY INTELLIGENT AND ANYTHING HE PUTS HIS MIND TO, HE DOES.
>> DONNY REED'S SON COLTON GREW UP WITH ZAVIN.
>> THEY WERE DOMINANT IN FLAG FOOTBALL.
THEY DOMINATED EVERYTHING THEY DID.
>> THAT DOMINANCE STRETCHED THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL, WHEN QUARTERBACK STRKS AVIN COLLINS AND COLTON REED LED THE HOMINY BUCKS TO THE 2016 CLASS 1A STATE FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP.
IT WAS HOMINY'S SEVENTH STATE FOOTBALL COMP.
BUT -- CHAMPIONSHIP.
BUT THE PIGSKIN TRADITION IN THIS SMALL TOWN GOES BACK A LOT FURTHER AND DEEPER THAN THAT.
ABOUT 100 YEARS AGO, DURING AN ERA KNOWN AS THE ROARING EYE 20s, A GROUP -- OAR -- ROARING '20s, IF NATIVE AMERICANS FORMED A FOOTBALL TEAMMATE.
THEY CALLED THEMSELVES THE HOMINY INDIANS.
>> EVENTUALLY, THEY GOT TO BE REALLY, REALLY, REALLY GOOD.
YOU HAD TEAM THAT WERE FROM ALL DIFFERENT TRIBES.
>> BEST OF THE BEST.
>> THE BEST OF THE BEST.
AND SO A LOT OF THEM CAME FROM THE HASKELL INDIAN SCHOOL, THE FIRST -- FIRST COACH OF THE TEAM WAS ACTUALLY A PETE HOUSER.
HE WAS A FORMER PLAYER AT HASKELL UNIVERSITY AT THE TIME.
>> IN LAWRENCE?
>> YES.
>> IN LAWRENCE, KANSAS.
>> YES, UH-HUH.
SO A LOT OF OUR -- A LOT OF THE PLAYERS THAT CAME DOWN HERE TO PLAY KIND OF ORIGINATED IN THAT AREA.
AND THEN ALL THROUGHOUT, YOU KNOW, THIS PART OF OKLAHOMA.
>> THE HOMINY INDIANS PLAYED ALL OVER THE MIDDLE UNITED STATES.
THEY TRAVELED IN CARB VANS FROM TOWN -- CARAVANS FROM TOWN TO TOWN.
THEY WOULD DRESS UP IN NATIVE AMERICAN ATTIRE, HOST BONFIRES, AND LET OUT MENACING POW WOW CRIES ON NIGHTS BEFORE GAMES.
THE INDIANS WOULD WIN 28 CONSECUTIVE GAMES.
>> SOME OF THAT TYPE OF THINGS, THEY WOULD -- >> ACTS OF INTIMIDATION.
>> GETTING THESE -- GETTING THEIR BLUFF IN ON PEOPLE, SO TO SPEAK.
BUT THEY WOULD -- THEY WOULD DO THIS WHOLE SHOW GOING INTO THESE PLACES AND IT ACTUALLY -- BETWEEN THOSE CONSECUTIVE VICTORIES AND THIS INTIMIDATION FACTOR THEY HAD, THEY BECAME KNOWN AS THE TERRORS OF THE MIDWEST.
JIM THORPE WAS NOT ON THE TEAM BUT AT ONE POINT FOR A STINT, JOHNNY MARTIN, PEPPER MARTIN, THE BASEBALL PLAYER.
HE ACTUALLY PLAYED.
YOU HAD THESE GUYS WHO SOME VERY THIN LEATHER MAYBE SHOULDER PADS AT ONE TIME, BROWN LEATHER SHOULDER PADS.
THEY HAD THE VERY THIN BROWN LEATHER HATS, YOU KNOW.
OR HELMETS, I GUESS, AS IT WERE.
BUT THERE WAS NO REAL PROTECTION THERE.
THESE GUYS WERE ROUGH AND TUMBLE.
AND THEY WOULD GET UP THERE AND THEY WOULD PLAY.
WHEREVER THEY COULD.
>> THE HOMINY INDIANS PLAYED MOST OF THEIR HOME GAMES HERE, IN THIS AREA, OF THE OSAGE RESERVATION, IN HOMINY.
BUT IT WAS ANOTHER GAME, 20 MILES NORTH, IN PAWHUSKA, THE DAY AFTER CHRISTMAS, 1927, WHEN THE GIRDERS OF THIS LEGEND WERE REALLY LAID.
THE NEWLY CROWNED THEME YOPS OF THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE THAT YEAR, THE NEW YORK GIANTS, YES, THOSE YORK GIANTS -- NEW YORK GIANTS, WANTED TO PLAY.
HOW DID THEY CONVINCE THE NEW YORK GIANTS TO COME TO PLAY THE HOMINY INDIANS?
>> THE QUAY I HEARD IT WAS JUST KIND OF SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE A A SCRIMMAGE, YOU KNOW, JUST TO KIND OF SEE.
I THINK IT TURNED INTO THAT.
IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE JUST A -- A BEAT-DOWN.
IT DIDN'T GO THAT WAY.
>> IF YOU LOOK AT THE PAPER FROM THAT TIME, IT SAYS THE HOMINY INDIANA VANISHED THE NEW YORK GIANTS -- VANQUISHED THE NEW YORK GIANTS.
13-6.
>> EVENTUALLY, THE 1929 STOCK MARKET CRASH AND THE GREAT DEPRESSION THAT FOLLOWED ENDED THE HOMINY INDIANS' INCREDIBLE RUN IN 1936.
>> THE PEOPLE THAT KNOW THE STORY ARE ALL GONE NOW.
SO NOW IT'S LIKE WHAT -- IT'S JUST A LEGEND.
SOMETHING YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT AND -- BUT IT GOES RIGHT BEHIND OUR STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS, YOU KNOW.
THAT'S PART OF IT.
THAT'S KIND OF THE BEGINNING.
>> AND TO SEE SOMEBODY WITH AS MUCH PASSION AS THEY HAVE AND AS DONNY SAYS AS MUCH PASSION IN ANYTHING THAT HE DOES, AND STILL REMAIN TRUE AND HUMBLE TO YOUR ROOTS, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.
I THINK WITH THE INDIANS AS WELL.
THESE GUYS WENT OUT THERE AND THEY PLAYED THE GAME FOR THE LOVE OF THE GAME.
BUT THEY PLAYED THAT GAME REMEMBERING THEIR HISTORY, THEIR CULTURE, AND WHERE THEY WERE FROM, AND THEY SHARED WITH PEOPLE ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES, AS FAR AS THAT GOES.
I MEAN, IT'S BIG NEWS WHENEVER A SMALL RAGTAG BAND MAYBE DEFEATS THE -- YOU KNOW, THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONS.
>> IN OSAGE COUNTY, STEVE SHAW, THE OKLAHOMA NEWS REPORT.
>> STEVE, GREAT STORY.
AND THIS NOTE.
IN THEIR HEYDAY, SOME MEMBERS OF THE INDIANS WERE PAID AS MUCH AS $150 PER GAME.
WE'LL GOOD MONEY BACK IN THE ROARING '20s.
>>> THE NUMBER OF WOMEN WHO SUFFER FROM EATING DISORDERS IS ON THE RISE, PARTICULARLY AMONG MINORITIES.
AND IT IT APPEARS THE PANDEMIC IS A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR AS WELL.
WHY AND WHAT CAN BE DONE TO HELP SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
THAT'S THE TOPIC OF THIS WEEK'S IN-DEPTH CONVERSATION.
>> THANK YOU.
EATING DISORDERS ARE A SERIOUS TOPIC THAT AFFECT EVERYONE, EVERYWHERE, ALL OVER THE WORLD.
AND WE HAVE SOME WONDERFUL EXPERTS HERE TO GIVE US SOME INSIGHT.
AND SOME INSIGHT INTO THIS ISSUE.
I'D LIKE TO WELCOME OUR PANELISTS WITH US TODAY.
WE HAVE DR. JILL JARRORS, A CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER.
AND THEN WE HAVE JAQUELINE, AN LPC AND PRESIDENT OF EATING DISORDER HOPE AND ADDICTION HOPE.
I'D LIKE TO THANK BOTH OF YOU FOR BEING WITH US TODAY.
>> THEY'LL.
>> GLAD TO BE HERE.
>> I'D LIKE TO START WITH YOU, DOCTOR.
TELL US, WHAT'S YOUR ORGANIZATION -- WHAT YOUR ORGANIZATION DOES?
>> IT'S A NATIONWIDE PROGRAM FOR TREATMENT OF EATING DISORDERS SPECIFICALLY, ANOREXIAER IN VOCEA, BULIMIAER IN VOCEA, AND BINGEING DISORDER.
WE HAVE MULTI-DISCIPLINARY TEAMS IN ALL LOCATION.
IT'S NOW UP TO 31 PROGRAMS IN 13 STATES.
>> THAT'S WONDERFUL.
AND JAQUELINE, HOW ABOUT YOURS?
>> EATING DISORDER HELP HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE 2005.
IT'S AN ONLINE COMMUNITY THAT PROVIDES INFORMATION AND RESOURCES AND TREATMENT REFERRALS FOR PEOPLE DEALING WITH EATING DISORDERS.
>> WHAT IS THE WEBSITE FOR THAT?
LET ME GET THAT REAL QUICK.
THEY CAN BE CHECKING THAT OUT.
."
>> THANK YOU.
EATINGDISORDERHOPE.COM.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU.
AND DOCTOR, DO YOU HAVE ONE?
>> SURE.
MONTE MIDO AFFILIATES.COM.
>> THIS IS IMPORTANT TOPIC AND I WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE ACCESS WHO ARE LISTENING TO THIS ACCESS TO HELP THAT -- TO GET THE HELP THEY NEED.
WHAT IS AN EATING DISORDER, DOCTOR?
>> WELL, IT'S A FORMAL DEFINITION FOR -- IT'S THROUGH THE DIAGNOSTICS STATISTICAL MANUAL.
THOSE ARE VERY CLEAR.
THEY HAVE MULTIPLE DIFFERENT POINTS THAT THE PERSON MUST MEET IN ORDER TO BE CATEGORIZED AS ONE EATING DISORDER VERSUS ANOTHER.
AND THEN THERE'S A LITTLE CATCHALL DEFINITION AS WELL.
BUT SO MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE WILL COME UP TO ME AND SAY, BOY, DO I NEED YOUR HELP AND THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT COMPULSIVE OVEREATING AND THAT'S NOT A CLASSIC EATING DISORDER.
>> JAQUELINE, NOW WHAT IS AN EATING DISORDER.
I UNDERSTAND IT HITS CLOSE TO HOME FOR YOU?
>> SURE.
AS JOEL MENTIONED, THERE'S AN -- ANOREXIA BLUM.
>> Reporter: AND -- BULIMIA.
MORE ME I STRUGGLED WITH AN EATING DISCORD FOR MANY YEARS THAT REALLY RIPPED APART MY LIFE AND MY FAMILY.
AND WHEN I FINALLY WENT IN TO TREATMENT, AT 28, I GOT IT KIND OF BACK TOGETHER AND BECAME -- WENT BACK TO SCHOOL, BECAME A THERAPIST.
AND STARTED EATING DISORDER HOPE.
SO MY PAINFUL EXPERIENCE WITH EATING DISORDERS GAVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO GOOD.
>> EATING DISCORDS HAVE BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME, BUT SINCE 1980 WE'VE MADE ADVANCESES IN THE FIELD.
TALK ABOUT THE HISTORY AND WHAT BROUGHT THE DISORDER TO THE PUBLIC EYE?
DOCTOR?
>> IT'S EVOLVED A LOT OVER THE PAST 20, 30 YEARS.
I STARTED IN THIS FIELD 30 YEARS AGO OR SO.
I'VE SEEN THE CHANGES PROGRESS CONSIDERABLY.
USED TO BE INSTITUTIONALIZATION, MIXING MIDS WITH OTHER MENTAL HEALTH PATIENTS IN FACILITIES.
FORCED FEEDING.
THOSE ARE NOT CONDUCIVE TO HEALING FROM AN EATING DISORDER.
WHAT KEF WE'VE DONE IS YOU KNOW, SEPARATED THIS OUT AND FOCUSED ON EATING DISCORDS WE TREAT SPECIFICALLY AND BRING IN THE TEAM MEMBERS, ALL THE DIFFERENT MEMBERS, NUTRITION, THERAPISTS, PSYCHIATRISTS, MEDICAL PHYSICIANS, TO TAKE CARE OF THESE INDIVIDUALS AND WE THINK THAT THAT -- WE HAVE SEEN SOME PRETTY GOOD OUTCOMES BY DOING THAT OVER THE YEARS.
>> JAQUELINE, I KNOW YOU PROBABLY INTERACT AND YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS PERSONALLY, BUT YOU INTERACT WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE.
HOW DO YOU TELL WHEN SOMEONE HAS A DISORDER?
>> YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SYMPTOMS AND WE OUT LINE THESE ON EATING DISORDER HOPE FOR BULIMIA AND THINGS TO LOOK FOR.
FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU'RE SUSPECTING THAT YOUR CHILD OR LOVED ONE HAS BULIMIA, YOU MIGHT NOTICE THAT THEY'RE MISSING FOR PERIODS OF TIME AFTER A MEAL.
THAT THERE'S MARKINGS ON THEIR FINGERS.
IF THEY HAVE SWOLLEN GLANDS.
DEHYDRATION CAN BE SOME SIGNS.
BUT USUALLY THE WAY THEY'RE GOING TO LET YOU KNOW IS THEY TELL YOU THEY'RE REALLY TROUBLED ABOUT THEIR EATING AND THEIR BODY AND THEY'RE CONFUSED AND THEY'RE HURTING ABOUT IT AND THEY WANT TO FEEL MORE WHOLE LIFTICALLY INTEGRATED AND NOT STREWN APART BY DIET AND WEIGHT.
>> WHAT IS MARKINGS ON THEIR FINGERS?
>> SELF-INDUCED VOMITING CAN CAUSE MARKS ON YOUR KNUCKLES.
>> FROM SCRAPING ON YOUR TEETH FROM PURGING.
>> IT'S HAPPENING THAT OFTEN, THAT IT WOULD -- >> YES, I'VE HAD CLIENGTS SADLY THAT -- CLIENTS SADLY THAT PURGED 12 TIMES A DAY.
>> YEAH.
IT'S AN ALL-COME ASSUMING -- ALL-CONSUMING THING.
>> WOULDN'T THAT BE A HEALTH DETRIMENT TO THE ESOPHAGUS, THE TEETH, THE MOUTH?
>> VERY MUCH.
YEAH.
IN THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT PURGE FREQUENTLY LIKE THAT RISK ANYTHING FROM CAVITIES OF THE TEETH TO ESOPHAGEAL CANCER.
SO WE NEED TO SCREEN THOSE PEOPLE CAREFULLY FOR OTHER THINGS THAT CAN BE SECONDARY TO EATING DISORDER.
>> IS THIS SIMPLY A MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES?
>> NOT AT ALL.
EATING DISORDERS ARE ONE OF THE FEW THINGS THAT I CAN THINK OF AS FAR AS DIAGNOSIS THAT CROSS THAT SPECTRUM BETWEEN EMOTIONAL AND PHYSICAL, MEDAL AND MENTAL HEALTH.
SO YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO BE AVERY ALERT FOR ALL THE MEDICAL COMPLICATIONS, ALTHOUGH IT IS A MENTAL HEALTH DIAGNOSIS.
>> WHAT KIND OF TRIGGERS IT?
YOU CAN HAVE TWO PEOPLE WHO GROW UP IN THE SAME ENVIRONMENT.
ONE HAS AN EATING DISORDER AND THE OTHER DOESN'T.
BUT THEY'VE GROWN UP IN THE SAME ENVIRONMENT.
SO WHAT ARE TRIGGERS?
AND I'LL LET EACH OF YOU ANSWER THAT THAT YOU'VE SEEN OR HEARD FROM CLIENTS OR PATIENTS.
>> I WOULD SAY WHAT I HEARD FREQUENTLY FROM DOCTORS IS THAT ENVIRONMENT -- EXCUSE ME, GENETICS KIND OF LOAD THE GUN AND THE ENVIRONMENT PULLS THE TRIGGER.
AND WHAT THEY MEAN BY THAT IS WE'VE LEARNED THROUGH STUDIES, WE NEED A LOT MORE RESEARCH AND MORE FUNDING FOR IT, BUT WHAT WE HAVE SO FAR WE'VE LEARNED THERE'S A GENETIC PREDISPOSITION TO EATING DISORDERS, ALSO UNDERLYING DEPRESSION, ANXIETY, THINGS LIKE THAT, AND THEN ENVIRONMENT IS CAN BE SO MANY FACTORS.
IT CAN BE THE MEDIA, THE CULTURE, IT CAN BE THE UPBRINGING OF THE INDIVIDUAL.
AND THAT CONTINUES TO EVOLVE.
WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT, DOCTOR?
>> WELL, IT'S SO FASCINATING BECAUSE A FEW YEARS AGO WE START GETTING INTO THE GENETICS LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND THEY'VE ACTUALLY GONE RIGHT DOWN TO THE GENETIC COLDING ON THE CHROMOSOME AND IDENTIFIED LOCATIONS ON THE CHROMOSOMES THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH THIS SORT OF DIAGNOSIS AND AFTER -- THAT'S ONE PART OF IT.
THERE ARE OTHER FACTORS THAT COME INTO PLAY SUCH AS SOCIOCULTURE FACTORS.
SOMEBODY MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT THEIR BODY SHAPE OR LOVING FATHER MIGHT CALL HIS KID CHUBBY, AND A TERM OF ENDEARMENT WHICH STICKS WITH THEM FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIFE.
WORSE YET, THERE CAN BE TRAUMA, RAPE, INCEST, THING LIKE THAT, THAT CAN BE VERY DEEPLY ROOTED AND IF YOU DON'T GET TO THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM, YOU DON'T GET TO THE CURE FOR THE EATING DISORDER.
>> IS IT A CONTROL ISSUE AS WELL?
>> YEAH, WOULD SAY -- YOU KNOW, LIFE BECOMES SO CHAOTIC WITH AN EATING DISORDER, THAT THESE INDIVIDUALS WILL TRY AND FIND ANY MEANS OF TRYING TO CONTROL THEIR LIFE AND SOMETIMES THAT COMES DOWN TO FOOD.
THAT'S AN EASIER THING TO CONTROL THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
JAQUELINE MAY HAVE ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE ON THAT AS WELL.
>> I LIKE SAYING JUST IN RECOVERY FROM AN EATING DISORDER, I AM WHAT THEY MIGHT CALL A CONTROL FREAK.
AND I'VE WORKED ON IT OVER MANY YEARS WITH DIFFERENT SKILLS TO ACCEPT LIFE ON MY TERMS.
AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING QUESTION OFTEN STRIVE TO WORK FOR IN PEOPLE WITH EATING DISORDERS, AS TO ALLOW LIFE TO HAPPEN AND NOT BE HIJACKED BY IT.
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT HISTORICALLY EATING DISCORDS HAVE BEEN IN THE DOMAIN OF WHITE HETEROSEXUAL WOMEN, BUT THAT'S CHANGING.
AM I RIGHT?
>> VERY MUCH SO.
IN FACT,IBILITYINGLY -- INTERESTINGLY, A LOT OF MEN DEVELOP EATING DISCORDS AND -- DISORDERS AND THERE'S A MISCONCEPTION THAT IT'S NOT HET TREE SEXUAL.
IT'S ABOUT 15% OF MEN THAT ARE GAY STRUGGLE WITH EATING DISORDERS AND THE REST ARE HETEROSEXUAL.
SO WE'RE WORKING HARD TO BRING ATTENTION TO MALE EATING ADDITION CORDS AND THE FACTORS BEHIND THAT.
ALSO THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY.
AND PEOPLE OF COLOR ARE UNDERREPRESENTED IN TREATMENT BUT ARE -- STRUGGLE WITH EATING DISCORDS VERY MUCH.
JIESHESZ AND IS AGE A FACTOR IN THIS?
>> YEAH.
I MEAN, AGE -- IT SPANS THE AGE RANGE.
I MEAN, THE YOUNGEST PATIENT I'VE EVER HAD WAS 7 YEARS OLD.
AND THE OLDEST ONE I'VE EVER TREATED IS 75 YEARS OLD.
>> WOW.
>> SO AND THE 7-YEAR-OLD BY THE WAY, HAD TO HAVE -- INTRAVENOUS FLUIDS BECAUSE SHE WASN'T EATING OR DRIPPING ANYTHING AND SHE ASKED ME ABOUT ANYTHING THAT MIGHT BE IN THAT BAG OF FLUID INCLUDING HOW MUCH SUGAR WAS IN THERE.
>> WHY?
HOW DOES A 7-YEAR-OLD GET TO THAT POINT?
>> I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF MODELING OUT THERE IN SOCIETY.
IF YOU LOOK IN THE FRIDGE AND IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THE MOTHER HAD AN EAT IGDISORDER AS WELL.
-- EATING DISORDER AS WELL.
THE MOTHER DIDN'T WANT TREATMENT AND BUT HER KID MADE A FULL RECOVERY WITHIN ONE YEAR.
BUT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AND SAY WHAT'S YOUR HOME ENVIRONMENT.
WHAT'S IN YOUR REFRIGERATOR?
IS I DIET FOODS?
DO YOU EAT TOGETHER?
ON IS MEALTIME FRACTURELED.
SO MANY DIFFERENT FACTORS THAT COME INTO PLAY WITH IT.
>> WOW.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THE FAMILY MEAL AROUND THE TABLE COULD HELP.
>> YEAH, IT'S NOT THE FAVORITE THING FOR A PERSON WHO STRUGGLES WITH AN EATING DISORDER BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE TO BE WATCHED WITH THEIR EATING HABITS A LOT OF THE TIME.
HOWEVER, EARLY ON IS A -- AS A PREVENTIVE THING, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO GET INTO THAT AND WE ALSO TEACH THAT OR HELP INDIVIDUALS GO BACK TO LEARNING THAT WITH TREATMENT.
>> I WANT TO COME TO YOU QUICK, JAQUELINE.
WHAT'S THE CONSEQUENCES OF HAVING AN EATING DISORDER FOR SOMEONE WHO HAS IT?
WHAT DOES THE WORLD LOOK LIKE TO THEM?
>> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE PHYSICAL CONSEQUENCES.
AND THEY CAN BE -- YOU KNOW, PRETTY SEVERE.
YOU CAN HAVE GASTRO ISSUES.
YOU CAN HAVE NEUROLOGICAL ISSUES.
ADDITIONALLY, QUITE FREQUENTLY SOMEONE WITH AN EATING DISORDER ISOLATES, PULLETS AWAY FROM RELATIONSHIPS -- PULLS AWAY FROM RELATIONSHIPS.
LESS ACTIVE IN SOCIAL ENGAGEMENTS, SCHOOL COMMITMENTS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
>> WHAT DO YOU SEE, DOCTOR N THAT ARENA?
WHAT ARE SOME OF THE COMMON ISSUES IN THE WORLD THAT THESE FOLKS FACE?
>> YEAH.
WELL, THERE'S SO MANY.
THEY CAN BECOME ALL-CONSUMED LIKE JAQUELINE WAS TALKING ABOUT PURGING CONTINUALLY.
THEY LOSE THEIR WORK.
THEY HAVE TO CHECK OUT OF SCHOOL.
YOU KNOW, FOCUS ON THIS.
BUT THE OTHER THINGS WOULD BE YOU KNOW, SERIOUS PROBLEMS OVER TIME LIKE BONE LOSS AND BONE FRACTURES, HEART PROBLEMS, KIDNEY PROBLEMS, THE BRAIN SHRINKS DOWN IN SIZE OVER TIME.
THEY DON'T THINK CLEARLY.
AND IF YOU REACH THAT POINT OF NO RETURN, IT'S OBVIOUSLY -- IT'S A VERY END STAGE AT THIS POINT.
>> SO HERE WE GO.
LET'S SAY YOU HAVE A LOVED ONE.
IF IT'S NOT YOURSELF IT'S A LOVED ONE.
AND YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO HELP THEM.
WHAT CAN BE THE FIRST STEP TOWARD GETTING THEM TO GET THE HELP THAT THEE NEED?
IT'S ONE OF YOU CAN ANSWER THAT.
>> YOU CAN START, JAQUELINE.
>> THANK YOU.
IRWOULD SAY GOING TO THAT -- I WOULD SAY GOING TO THAT PERSON AND EXPRESSING WHAT YOU'RE OBSERVING, THAT YOU CARE, AND YOU'D LIKE TO HELP THEM GET SUPPORT IF THEIR OPEN TO THAT.
>> WHAT IF THEY'RE NOT?
DO YOU JUST DRAG THEM IN?
>> I THINK IT'S ABSOLUTELY -- KIDS -- IT'S AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THING THAN ADULTS.
KIDS DON'T HAVE THAT ABILITY TO SAY NO, I'M NOT GOING.
YOU NEED TO -- AND THE OTHER THING IS YOU HAVE TO REACH THEM DURING THAT GROWTH WINDOW OR THEY CAN SUFFER PERMANENT PROBLEMS BY NOT GROWING AND DEVELOPING PROPERLY.
SO KIDS, IT'S A DIFFERENT BALL GAME.
THEY HAVE TO GO IN.
THEY HAVE TO BE EVALUATED.
HOW WE DO THAT IS WHAT'S IMPORTANT.
AND TRY AND BRING THEM ON BOARD AND DEVELOP THAT TRUST FACTOR WITH THEM.
WITH ADULTS YOU DO TRY TO SAME THING.
DEVELOP THE TRUST FACTOR AND HELP THEM UNDERSTAND WHAT THE RAMIFICATIONS ARE WITH THIS AND THEN SOMETIMES WE DO USE MEDICATIONS TO HELP TREAT SOME OF THEIR DEPRESSION AND ANXIETY.
>> SO SOMETHING THAT'S UNIQUE, BESIDES THE OVERALL GROWTH PATTERNS THAT YOU'VE SEEN, EVERYBODY HAS BEEN QARN FIEND AT HOME.
>> YEAH.
>> DO YOU THINK THAT HAS AN IMPACT ON FOLKS WITH EATING DISORDERS?
ARE THEY AVAILABLE TO YOU KNOW -- EXPECT TO SEE A GROWTH IN FOCUS SEEKING TREATMENT NOW THAT THE -- FOLKS SEEKING TREATMENT NOW THAT THE QUARANTINES ARE LIFTING?
>> WIFE NEVER BEEN BUSIER.
PROGRAMS ARE -- WE'VE NEVER BEEN BUTZ YEAR.
PROGRAMS ARE FULL AND WAITING LISTS EXTENSIVE.
SO I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE COVID EPIDEMIC DID IMPACT THINGS.
THANK YOU NOSER DOUBT ABOUT THAT AND NOT IN A POSITIVE WAY.
>> SO JAQUELINE, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT RECOVERY, MA MADE -- WHAT MADE YOU TAKE THOSE STEPS TO GET OUT TORE FIX THE ISSUES THAT YOU WERE FACING?
WHAT DID RECOVERY LOOKING LIKE FOR YOU?
>> THANKTHANK YOU FOR ASKING.
IT WAS PRETTY -- I WAS STRUGGLING.
I LOOKED LIKE A KIND OF AN ACHIEVER AT THAT POINT BUT BEHIND THE SCENES I WAS CONSUMED WITH BULIMIA.
AND INSTABILITY IN MY PERSONAL LIFE THAT ALL THE TRYING TO DO WELL IN THE WORLD.
AND I FINALLY GOT TO THE POINT WHERE I WAS SO DESPERATE AND FEARFUL FOR MY LIFE, BECAUSE ALL THE ELECTROLIGHT IMBALANCES AND THINGS THAT I ADMITTED MYSELF TO A 30-DAY TREATMENT PROGRAM BACK WHEN I WAS 28.
I'M 55 NOW.
JUST DOING THAT ALONE IN MY CASE WAS LIFE-CHANGING, BECAUSE IT INTERRUPTED THE BEHAVIOR, GOT ME SOME THERAPY, GOT ME HOOKED UP WITH A GOOD THERAPIST AND NUTRITIONIST LONG TERM, AND THEN I WAS ABLE TO TURN AROUND MY LIFE IN SO MANY WAYS.
THERE'S SO MUCH HOPE.
AHEAD OF THE SUFFERING.
SO IT CAN BE A STEPPINGSTONE FOR A VERY GOOD AND PRODUCTIVE LIFE.
>> I WOULD ALSO GIVE A MESSAGE TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE BEEN STRUGGLING WITH EATING DISCORDS FOR YEARS AND YEARS -- DISORDERS FOR YEARS AND YEARS.
MAYBE THEY'VE BEEN IN THE HOSPITAL 10 DIFFERENT TIMES.
MY OWN SISTER ALMOST DIED ANOREXIAER IN VOCEA AND WASN'T UNTIL AGE 46 UNTIL HE LIFE WAS FALLING APART AND SHE AGREED TO GET INTO TREATMENT AND SHE MADE A FULL AND LASTING RECOVERY AT AGE ZERO, THE -- AGE 46.
SO IT'S POSSIBLE.
>> THE HOPE AND LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL FOR FOLKS WHO MAY BE WALKING THIS JOURNEY ALONE.
I'D LIKE TO GET FINAL WORDS FROM YOU, JAQUELINE.
WHAT YOU ARE YOUR FINAL WORDS TO PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO ARE HEARING YOU RIGHT NOW?
>> I WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE EARLY INTERVENTION FOR EATING DISCORDS.
RESEARCH SHOWS THAT THE SOONER -- DISORDERS.
RESEARCH SHOWS THE SOONER WE TREATED IT THE BETTER.
I ALSO STRONGLY RECOMMEND SEEING INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE CLINICIANS THAT ARE TRAINED IN EATING DISORDERS STARTING WITH YOU YOUA NEW TRIVETTIST AND THEY'RE ITAND GOING -- NUTRITIONIST AND THERAPISTS.
GO TO HOSPITALIZATIONS TO FULL RESIDENTIAL IN FEED BE.
>> DOCTOR, YOU GET -- IF NEED BE.
>> DOCTOR, YOU GET THE FINAL WORD.
>> EATING DISCORD TREATMENT HAS NEVER BEEN BETTER.
THERE ARE -- DISORDER TREATMENT HAS NEVER BEEN BETTER.
THERE ARE NEW THERAPIES THAT WE'RE UTILIZING.
WE TRY TO MATCH TO THE INDIVIDUAL AND TAILOR AND PERSONALIZE TREATMENT FOR THE KID INDIVIDUAL AND I THINK THAT IS PROBABLY THE SINGLE MOST EFFECTIVE THING THAT YOU CAN DO.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF HOPE OUT THERE.
AND WE'RE MOVING THAT WAY.
MORE AND MORE.
>> WONDERFUL.
I KNOW THERE'S MORE WE COULD GET INTO.
I'D LIKE TO THANK BOTH OF YOU FOR THE TIME YOU'VE TAKEN TO GIVE US THIS INSIGHT INTO THIS DISEASE AND THIS DISORDER AND HOPEFULLY WE'VE REACHED SOME FOLKS WHO NEEDED TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY.
>> A PLEASURE, THANKS.
>> THANK YOU, SUSAN.
>> THANK YOU.
>> SUSAN AND HER GUESTS, THANK YOU.
>>> AS THE STATE CAPPED'S RENOVATION NEARS COMPLETION, RESTORATION IS UNDERWAY IN THE HUNDREDS OF PIECES OF ART.
WHILE A FEW PIECES REMAIN IN PLACE, THE OKLAHOMA ARTS COUNCIL EXPECTS TO REINSTALL THE PAINTINGS, STATUE, AND SCULPTURES WHEN THE WORK IS FINISHLED EARLY NEXT YEAR.
ADDITIONAL PIECES ARE BEING CREATED TO ADORN THE ENTRANCE AND THE GROUND FLOOR.
>>> IN THIS WEEK'S NATIONAL VIEW, WE TRAVEL TO THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH DAKOTA WHERE PRODUCER MELISSA HAMMERSMAU PROFILES AN INSTRUCTOR WHO'S BEING HONORED FOR HIS TEACHING.
>> IF YOU'RE ON A VISUAL EXPLORATION, YOU'RE OUT TO DIG UP SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVEN'T SEEN BEFORE, YOU NEVER INTERACTED WITH BEFORE.
YOU HAVE TO BE THAT FAR OPEN TO JUST ASK PEOPLE OR GO PLACES WHERE YOU WOULDN'T USUALLY GO AND DEAL WITH THE CONSEQUENCES WHICH COULD BE GOOD, COULD BE BAD, BUT YOU HAVE CONFIDENCE IN YOUR OWN IMAGINATION.
I THINK IT'S USEFUL EDUCATIONAL TOOL TO HAVE THOSE KIND OF UNEXPECTED THINGS HAPPEN AND EVEN OBSTACLES, PROBLEMS THAT GET IN THE WAY.
THOSE ARE THE ONLY OPPORTUNITIES YOU HAVE TO REALLY LEARN SOMETHING, YOU KNOW.
IF EVERYTHING WENT FINE, YOU PROBABLY DIDN'T REALLY LEARN THAT MUCH.
>> ART HAS BEEN THE WAY THE JOHN HAS COMMUNICATED WITH HIS ENVIRONMENT.
FIRST, AS A CHILD, MAKING UP STORIES ABOUT DAYS RUNNING AROUND WITH BUDDIES, THEN AS A SCHOOLBOY SKETCHING IN CLASS.
>> THE NUNS THERE, THERE ALWAYS WOULD ASK ME TO DRAW THE POSTERS OR SOMETHING, BECAUSE I GUESS I COULD DO IT AND I JUST ENJOYED DOING IT.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT CAME FROM.
ONE OF THEM EVEN SAID, YOU AUDIT TO GO INTO ART AND BE AN ARTIST SOMEDAY.
>> HE'S INDEED A VERY TALENTED ARTIST.
HE SPENDS FREE TIME MAKING ASSEMBLAGE ART, SIMILAR TO THE SHRINES MADE BY HIS POLISH GRANDMOTHER.
AND AMBLING THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS LOOKING FOR STRIKING IMAGES.
>> AND WHEN YOU WALK AROUND AT NIGHT, DARK ENOUGH TO BLOCK OUT ANY POTENTIALLY DISTRACTING ELEMENTS, SO IT'S EASIER TO ISOLATE SPECIFIC THINGS.
DIRECTION OF LIGHT, CASTING A SHADOW.
IT LOOKS LIKE SOME BACKGROUND IN A SALVADOR DALI PAINTING.
>> EDUCATED AT THE ART INSTITUTE OF CHICAGO, PLUS THE UNIVERSITY OF KRAKOW IN POLAND, HE'S ALSO EARNED NUMEROUS ACCOLADES.
HIS PASSION IT TURNSUMENT HAS BEEN TEACH -- TURNS OUT HAS BEEN TEACHING.
>> WORKING WITH STUDENTS DAY TO DAY HERE, AND WATCHING THEM EXPLORE, ESCAVATE DIFFERENT LAYERS OF THEMSELVES, REALLY IS BETTER THAN READING BOOKS FOR ME.
I THINK MAYBE I IN THE END LEARN MORE THAN ANYBODY ELSE IN MY CLASSES.
I HOPE TO STILL THAT I'M STILL -- I HOPE TO THINK THAT I'M STILL GROWING.
>> JOHN HAS BEEN TEACHING AT USD FOR 40 YEARS.
MANY STUDENTS HAVE EXPOSED AND PROCESSED ENDLESS ROLES OF -- ROLLS OF FILM AND PIECES OF PAPER.
MAYA IS AN ANTHROPOLOGY STUDENT WHO ENJOYED PROCESSING HER OWN EMOTIONS THROUGH PHOTOGRAPHY.
>> SO A LOT FLT THINGS THAT I MAKE IN CLASS HAVE TO DO WITH MY PRIVATE, DEEP EMOTIONS.
SOMETIMES JOHN AND I WILL KIND OF WORK TO TRY TO FORMULATE IDEAS, HOW YOU CAN USE ANTHROPOLOGY AND PHOTOGRAPHY TOGETHER.
SO LOOKING AT EMOTIONS AS ARTIFACTS OR LOOKING AT SPECIFICALLY PIECES FROM MY PAST AS ARTIFACTS THAT I CAN PHOTOGRAPH AND THEN USE.
>> STUDENTS ARE JUST TART OF THE GROUP THAT -- PART OF THE GROUP THAT APPRECIATE HIS CONTRIBUTION IN THE CLASSROOM.
THE RECIPIENT OF THE 2021'S GOVERNOR'S AWARD IN THE ARTS FOR OUTSTANDING SERVICE IN ARTS EDUCATION.
JOHN IS QUICK TO REFLECT ON THE HONOR.
>> THE GOVERNOR'S AWARD IS REALLY HARD TO ACCEPT IT PERSONALLY.
THE ONLY WAY I COULD REALLY THIS ABOUT IT IS ACCEPTING IT AS A COLLECTIVE EFFORT.
THAT THE ART DEPARTMENT.
EVERYBODY IS SO GOOD HERE, TOO.
I TRY TO SET UP AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE LEARNING CAN TAKE PLACE.
YOU KNOW, GET RID OF ALL THE DISTRACTIONS AS MUCH AS I CAN.
BE AS HELPFULFUL AS I COULD BE, HAVE ALL THE CHEMICALS MIXED UP, READY WHEN ANYBODY HAS A QUESTION OR THEY'RE STRUGGLING WITH SOME UNDERSTANDING OF SOME IDEA OR WHERE THEY SHOULD GO NEXT.
>> DYLAN HAS BENEFITED FROM TINOVATION AND COLLABORATION THAT OCCURS IN THE CLASSROOM OF THIS HUMBLE INSTRUCTOR.
>> IT'S BEEN LOVELY.
JOHN HAS A REALLY GOOD WAY OF NURTURING, LIKE CREATIVE IDEAS.
HIS LIKE STORIES AND ANECDOTES, THEY REALLY HELP YOU CONNECT THE THREADS FOR DIFFERENT IDEAS T DIFFERENT WAYS WORKING.
>> JOHN SAYS THAT HE'S IN NO ARE YOURY TO RETIRE.
BUT WHEN HE DOES, HIS LEGACY AND DEDICATION TO THE EXPLORATION OF IDEAS AND SELF-GROWTH WILL CONTINUE IN PEOPLE LIKE DYLAN.
>> I WANT TO BE LIKE JOHN WHEN I GROW UP!
[LAUGHTER] AND I WOULD LOVE TO TAKE WHAT I'VE LEARNED FROM HERE AND EVERYBODY TO BRING THAT FORWARD TO MY OWN STUDENTS IF I DO GO ON TO TEACH.
>> JOHN SAYS THAT'S AS GOOD OF A TRIBUTE AS ANY AWARD.
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>>> ON THE NEXT OKLAHOMA NEWS REPORT -- GOVERNOR BESTOW THE PURPLE HEART AND MEDAL OF VALOR TO THREE DESERVING OFFICERS AND NATIONAL GUARDSMAN.
ONE MADE THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE IN THE LINE OF DUTY.
>>> AND WE HAVE THE MYSTERIOUS ENDING FOR YOU TONIGHT.
THE SHERLOCK HOLMES EXHIBIT AT THE SCIENCE MUSEUM OKLAHOMA, THE KIDS LOVE IT AND WE THINK YOU WILL, TOO.
PHOTOGRAPHED AND EDITED BY ERIC WALTON.
FOR ALL OF US HERE, I'M RICH LYNN.
STAY -- LUND.
STAY HEALTH, STAY HEALTHY, AND STUDENT TO OETA.

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