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FIRST LET'S MEET OUR PANELISTS STARTING WITH WENDY WIESE FROM THE BIG 550 KTRS.

BILL MCCLELLAN FROM STL TODAY.COM AND THE POST DISPATCH.

AND DITTO FROM JOE HOLLEMAN AND FROM THE ST. LOUIS AMERICAN ALVIN REID.

LAST SATURDAY NIGHT IT REALLY HIT THE FAN AT WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY, BILL, WHEN PROTESTERS WERE ARRESTED, ABOUT 100 OF THEM, ABOUT 77 NONSTUDENTS, 23 STUDENTS.

THEY TRIED TO SET UP AN ENCAMPMENT.

IN A..

SHUT DOWN AND NO CHARGES HAVE BEEN PRESSED YET.

BUT SOME OF THE PROTESTERS COMPLAINED ABOUT POLICE BRUTALITY.

AND ONE POLI.. A SEVERE CONCUSSION, AND SOMEONE ELSE HAD BROKEN FINGERS.

MEANWHILE IT WAS A DIFFERENT STORY AT ST. LOUIS UNIVERSITY WHEN THE PRO PALESTINIAN PROTESTERS WENT THERE, THEY KIND OF STRUCK A DEAL WITH THE UNIVERSITY.

THE .. ON GRAND AVENUE, MUCH TO THE DISMAY OF THOSE GOING TO THE THEATER TO SEE "MULAN" ROUGE.

AND ONE AT WASH-U WHICH WAS CLAMMING DOWN ON IT AND THE >> SLOUGH.EW.

>> I THOUGHT WASH-U'S PROBLEM WAS LETTING IT BEGIN THE WAY IT BEGAN.

ONCE YOU LET P..

PITCHING TENTS AND NOT LISTENING TO YOU, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE THAT PROBLEM.

SLOUGH WAS PROACTIVE.

I THOUGHT SLOUGH DESERVES KUDOS AND WASH UMEN WASH-U LOOKED BAD.

AFTER WHAT HAPPENED IN COLUMBIA, THEY SHOULD HAVE REALIZED WE SHOULDN'T LET THIS GET STARTED.

>> WHAT WE ARE SEEING RIGHT NOW IS AT WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY OUTSIDE OF THE SAM FOX SCHOOL, I BELIEVE.

>..

THEY ARE A LIKE IN THAT THEY WERE BOTH PROTESTS DEALING WITH HAMAS ISRAEL SITUATION.

BUT THE BIG DIFFERENCE IS THE ENCAMPMENT ASPECT OF IT.

THE ST. LOUIS UNIVERSITY, THERE WAS NO TALK OF ENCAMPMENT, NO ATTEMPT TO PITCH TENTS.

IT WAS SIMPLY WHAT WE CALL A RALLY.

END TIME, AND THEN EVERYBODY WENT HOME.

THE WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY ONE, FROM WHAT I CAN READ FROM OUR PAPER AND OTHER SOURCES WAS THAT IT THEN BEGAN NOW WE ARE GOING TO DO AN ENCAMPMENT, AND THAT'S WHEN THE UNIVERSITY SAID WE CAN'T HAVE THIS, BECAUSE YOU LOOK AT THE TRICK BAG THAT COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY GOT ITSELF IN, AND THING THEY WERE SAYING THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN HERE WHERE WE HAVE PEOPLE STAYING OUT HERE FOR WEEKS AND WEEKS MAKING DEMANDS.

I THINK WE CAN COM.. ONE LEVEL.

BUT ON ANOTHER..

FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO GATHERINGS.

>> ST. LOUIS UNIVERSITY SAID YOU CAN'T CAMP HERE, BUT YOU CAN SHUT DOWN GRAND AVENUE AND INCONVENIENCE PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE TRYING TO GET TO THE HOSPITAL FROM NORTH ST. LOUIS OR THE FOX THEATER JUST AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T AFFECT US ON OUR CAMPUS.

>> YOU HAVE TO GIVE PEOPLE SOMETHING.

>.. >> I THINK YOU.. LOOK AT THE WAY IT ENDED SLOUGH, PEACEFUL, WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY, A MESS.

>> I DON'T THINK IT WAS A MESS.

>> I'M NOT SURE SLOUGH UNIVERSITY CONTROLS THAT GRAND AVENUE.

I DO.. POWER THERE.

>> ONE OF ..

IN SO MANY OF THE STORIES, AS YOU SAID WE WERE ALL READING ON THIS IS THAT THE PRO PALESTINIAN PROTESTERS WERE REFUTING THE FACT THAT JEWISH STUDENTS FELT THREATENED.

I WA.. OTHER WORLD, WHETHER THAT WAS A TRANSGENDER STUDENT OR A BLACK STUDENT OR ANYBODY, YOU KNOW, A FEMALE STUDENT WHO SAID THAT THEY FELT THREATENED, HOW IN GOD'S NAME CAN ANYBODY SPEAK FOR THE FEAR THAT OTHER PEOPLE FEEL?

THAT BLEW MY MIND, BECAUSE THAT TO ME IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.

>> A LOT OF PEOPLE SPEAK FOR BLACK PEOPLE AND WHAT THEY FEEL AND FEAR AND ALL THAT.

THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.

THAT'S NOT FOREIGN TO ME.

I MAY BE A BIT NAIVE HERE, BUT YOU CAN BE IN A PROTEST LIKE THAT AND NOT BE PRO PALESTINIAN OR PRO ISRAEL BUT BE PRO PEACE.

I THINK THERE ARE PEOPLE GENERALLY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON.

AS FAR AS CLOSING GRAND DOWN, THERE WAS A PROTEST IN KIRKWOOD FOLLOWING FERGUSON.

THE POLICE BASICALLY ESCORTED THE INDIVIDUALS WHO WANTED TO WALK DOWN KIRKWOOD ROAD AND THEY DID THE MILE WALK, DISBURSED AND IT WAS OVER.

IF THEY SAY WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE IT, AND BLAH THIS AND BLAH THAT, IT NEVER HAPPENED, SO IT NEVER HAPPENED.

I LOOK AT THAT VIDEO, AND I'M SORRY, I KNOW THAT PEOPLE GOT THROWN DOWN OR WHATEVER.

I DIDN'T SEE BR BRUTALITY.

IN MY LAND, I SEE BLACK AND WHITE, FIRE HOSE AND GERMAN SHEPHERDS AND PEOPLE BEAT OVER THE HEAD.

YOU .. AND YOU DECIDED NOT TO DISBURSE AND PEOPLE WERE ARRESTED.

THERE WAS NO HURRY TO CHARGE PEOPLE.

BECAUSE .. SATURDAY, AND WE ARE COMING UP ON FRIDAY NOW.

AND I THINK THAT STAND-DOWN IS A CORRECT TERM.

EVERYBODY NEEDS TO STAND DOWN AT THIS POINT.

I WILL THROW ONE LAS..

THERE.

IF THIS IS BACK IN NOVEMBER.

THIS ABOUT A WEEK OR TWO BEFORE GRADUATION, SO EVERYBODY HAS GOT A WHOLE LOT OF GUTS OUT THERE, SO THEY ARE ABOUT TO SPLIT TIME OR GET THEIR DEGREE OR HEAD OUT FOR THE SUMMER.

IT'S A LOT EASIER IF YOU AREN'T FACING FIVE MONTHS.

>> WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT GERMAN SHEPHERDS AND FIRE HOSES, YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ANYWHERE, ANYWHERE, BUT IN THE EARLY 1960s I HOPE THAT WE HAVE LEARNED FROM WHAT HAPPENED THEN TO NOW.

>> IN 2011, WHEN OCCUPY ST. LOUIS WAS ON CAMPUS, HE TURNED OUT A WOOD SHIPPER, TURNED IT ON AND THE PROTESTERS WAS SO LOUD THEY COULDN'T THINK AND THEY DISPERSED.

>> THE LEGEND.

>> I WAS AT AN EVENT FOR THE ST. LOUIS BUSINESS JOURNAL ON CAMPUS, AND THE HEAD OF SECURITY TOLD ME AT THE TIME THAT THAT'S HOW THEY DEALT WITH OCCUPY ST. LOUIS.

.. >> MAYBE THAT FURTHER MOVE THE POWER.

&g.. GREEN, WHO IS ON THE BOARD OF ESTIMATE AND APPORTIONMENT WHICH OVERSEES THE BUDGET FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST SINCE SHE'S WRITING THE CHECKS FIGURATIVELY FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHEN SHE CALLS FOR A STAND-DOWN?

SHE'S PART OF THE PROTESTERS AND SHE'S TELLING THE POLICE THAT THEY SHOULD BACK OFF.

>> SHE DIDN'T SAY YOU WILL BE FIRED IF SOMETHING HAPPENS.

>> BUT NO, ALSO SHE'S THE SAME PERSON THAT VOTED FOR A PRETTY GOOD RAISE.

I'M NOT SURE I CAN QUESTION THE MOTIVES.

>.. GREENS AND HER PROGRESSIVE POLITICS AND THE FACT SHE SAID THE POLICE SHOULD STAND DOWN, I DON'T THINK THE POLICE LISTEN TO MEGAN GREEN.

>> AND I DON'T THINK LOCAL CONTROL IS IN JEFF CITY AND GENERAL ASSEMBLY DECIDING WHETHER MEGAN GREEN WOULD CONTROL IT.

>>..

I DON'T THINK POLICE IN THAT KIND OF A CIRCUMSTANCE HAVE AN ORGANIZATIONAL FLOW CHART IN THEIR THINKING.

>> THEY ALREADY ARE, BECAUSE THE LOBBYISTS ON TWITTER IS EXPRESSING SOME OF THE THOUGHTS ALREADY.

>..

THIS AND THAT.

>> AND THE MAYOR MADE A POINT AND STATEMENT AND BASICALLY SAID PEACE WILL BE MET WITH PEACE, BUT VIOLENCE, PROPERTY DAMAGE, THAT WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.

>> I STILL THINK SHUTTING DOWN A ROAD COULD BE SHOWN AS VIOLENCE.

>> WHEN PEOPLE WHO WERE UPSET WITH, YOU KNOW, CONTRACTS NOT GOING THROUGH MINORITY, AND THEY SHUT DOWN HIGHWAY 70, I WAS THERE.

>> AND T.. >> AND JIM BUFFORD -- HE WAS NEVER CHARGED.

>> HEAD OF THE URBAN LEAGUE AT THE TIME.

>&g.. "MULAN" ROUGE.

>> I WAS NOT.

>> WHEN IT COMES TO.. DOWN ROADS, I THINK THE ONE THING THAT I STARTED FINDING OUT STARTING IN FERGUSON THROUGH THE SHOCKLEY TRIAL THAT CAME LATER, PROTESTERS SHUT DOWN THE ROADS.

NO, THEY DIDN'T.

POLICE SHUT DOWN THE ROADS.

SO THE POLICE WHO ARE ALWAYS GETTING ACCUSED OF BRUTALITY, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO THE MATH TO FIGURE OUT HOW MANY LIVES THEY SAVED BECAUSE PROTESTERS HAVE NOT GOTTEN HIT BY CARS BECAUSE POLICE WENT AHEAD OF TIME AND SET UP BLOCKADES SO THAT CARS WOULDN'T GO THROUGH, UNLESS YOU GET SOMEBODY WHO SAYS I'M NOT LETTING A PROTESTER STOP ME.

IF I SAW THEM DO IT ONCE, I SAW WITH MY OWN EYES SAW THEM DO IT 10 TIMES.

>> IT HAPPENED IN FE.. >> PROTESTERS WILL CLAIM COURAGE IN SHUTTING DOWN THE ROAD.

THE POLICE SHUT DOWN THE ROAD FOR THE PROTESTERS SAFETY.

WHERE ITC I HAVE A QUESTION, MY UNDERSTANDING OF CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE WAS THAT YOU WENT SOMEPLACE, AND YOU CAUSED A RUCKUS, AND YOU GOT ARRESTED AND DISRUPTED THE SYSTEM.

SO THE IDEA THAT YOU GOT ARRESTED AFTER YOU TRESPASSED, AFTER YOU REFUSED A POLICEMAN SAYING IT'S TIME TO GO HOME.

YOU HAVE GOT TO GO, YOU GOT ARRESTED.

WHAT.. >> I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT THE MAYOR'S FATHER TWEETED THOSE EXACT SAME SENTIMENTS THIS AFTERNOON.

HEY,..

BREAK THE LAW YOU SHOULD SUFFER CONSEQUENCES.

>> EXPECTED TO BE ARRESTED.

>> THAT WAS SO 1960s.

THIS IS 2024.

>> ALL RIGHT.

LET'S MOVE ALONG TO OUR NEXT TOPIC.

JOE, WE ARE GOING TO THROUGH IT TO YOU.

$179 MILLION IN THE BANK FOR ST. LOUIS COUNTY FROM THE SETTLEMENT WITHSTAND KROENKE THE N.F.L.

AND THE RAM.

CITY GOT $250 MILLION.

NOW THE COUNTY'S BANK COMES UP TO 179 AND DECIDED TO SPEND THE FIRST PART ON ROADS, NOT TOO SEXY REALLY.

THEY A.. SUBDIVISIONS IN NORTH AND SOUTH COUNTY.

ONCE IN .. WE JUST SPEND IT ON ROADS.

>> I HAVE A VISION, CHARLIE, IS WHERE I CAN DRIVE MY CAR ON THE STREET WITHOUT GETTING A FLAT TIRE FROM A POTHOLE OR CROOKED CONCRETE.

EVER.. ALL THE VISIONIST GUYS, THEY HAVEN'T SPENT A DIME.

FIX SOME ROADS.

I APPLAUD THEM FOR LOOKING AT IT.

SPENT?

AT SOME POINT IN TIME IF YOU ARE COMPLAINING WE DON'T HAVE MONEY, GOVERNMENT HAS ALL THE GRANDIOSE IDEAS.

AND ..

THE THING WE EXPECT THEM TO DO IS FIX OUR ROADS AND PICK UP OUR GARBAGE.

IF.. DO IT.

DO THAT, MOVE ON.

HAVE YOUR GREAT VISION.

TO ME DRIVING ON A NICE STRAIGHT PAVED ROAD IS A WONDERFUL VISION.

>>..

SAME PAGE SAYING THIS IS THE WAY IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

YOU HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF DYSFUNCTION.

>>.. >> CAN YOU SEE SAM PAGE SAYING I'M TOO SEXY FOR MY ROADS.

THAT JUST POPPED IN MY HEAD.

>> WILL NOT PAVE YOUR ROADS.

THAT WILL GET YOU NOT ELECTED.

>> HE SAID THAT'S NOT THE PROCESS.

>> IN FACT, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.

179 MILLION.

AND .. HAVE TOOK A BIG CHUNK, AND THE FIRST PART IS INFRASTRUCTURE.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.

>> AND I HATE ARGUING AGAINST PRACTICALITY.

IF YOU.. UNCLE YOU KNOW YOU DIDN'T HAVE AND GOT $50,000, WOULD YOU SPEND IT ON FIXING UP YOUR WINDOWS, OR WOULD YOU GO TO ITALY, DO SOMETHING DRAMATIC?

ONE-TIME THING.

>> T.. >> DO THE RESPONSIBLE ADULT THING.

GOT .. ALVIN, I HAVE GOT TO MOVE ON.

SORRY, GUYS, THE TIME IS SHORT.

THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE A DEBATE TONIGHT, AT LEAST THERE WAS ONE INVITATION SENT OUT TO THE THREE DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSIONAL CANDIDATES RUNNING IN THE FIRST DISTRICT IN MISSOURI.

YOU HAVE WESLEY BELL, INCUMBENT CORI BUSH AND MARIA CHAPPELLE IN NADAL.

AND NADAL IS T..

SHOWING UP.

>> NOBODY HAS HEARD FROM HER.

BUT IN REGARD TO THIS.

BUT I THINK SHE MIGHT BE THINKING I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THE PROBLEMS OF THE FIRST CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT IF WE WERE GOING TO DEBATE AND I THINK THIS WOULD TURN INTO IT TOO.

AND IT WOULD DEINVOLVE INTO WHO KNOWDEVOFL INTO WHOKNOWS WHAT.

AND WESLEY BELL COULD SHOW UP AND SAY THIS IS WHAT I DO AND THIS IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO.

AND TWO OF THEM AND MARIA IN THE SAME BOX.

>> WHEN SHE'S SPEAKING, SHE'S SPEAKING UP.

>> WHY SPECIFICALLY DOES WESLEY BELL NOT WANT TO BE THERE WITH MARIA CHA SH CHA PELL NADAL.

>> SOME SAY SHE WAS PUT IN AS A SPOILER BY CORI BUSH.

IT IS CLEAR FROM CHAPPELLE NADAL'S STATEMENTS ON SOCIAL MEDIA SHE'S NO FAN OF WESLEY BELL.

SHE'.. WITH PEOPLE BEING CHARGED WITH MURDERS, SUSPECTED OF PURITY BEING FREED AND ALSO PERSONALLY WITH ALLEGATIONS THAT SEXUAL BEHAVIORS IN THE OFFICE HAVE IMPEDED THE PROGRESS OF OPERATIONS THERE.

I WOULD FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT IF THERE WAS A DEBATE WITH WESLEY BELL AND CHAPPELLE NADAL, THOSE TWO PEOPLE, IT WOULD BE A NEVER ENDING RUNNING BARRAGE OF CRITICISMS FROM MS. CHAPPELLE NADAL AGAINST WESLEY BELL.

I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT WESLEY BELL WOULD WANT TO SIT THERE AND DO THAT.

CAMP, HE SAID IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CHAPPELLE NADAL, BUT IF BUSH WON'T BE THERE, HE WON'T BE THERE BECAUSE IT'S DO WE REPLACE CORI BUSH OR NOT?

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WENDY WIESE, MOVING ON TO ANOTHER TOPIC.

THERE'S A PROPOSAL IN JEFFERSON CITY TO ALLOW 14 AND 15 YEAR-OLDS TO WORK WITHOUT PERMISSION FROM THEIR SCHOOLS.

RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE SCHOOLS SIGN OFF SO YOU CAN GET A SPECIAL CERTIFICATE, WORK CERTIFICATE IF YOU ARE 14 OR 15.

DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT, I DON'T BELIEVE, WHEN YOU ARE 16.

POST DISPATCH LAMB PASTED THE IDEAS.

.. CHILD LABOR AGAIN.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> I WAS 15 IN 1976, AND I HAD A JOB, AND THERE WAS NO CERTIFICATE NEEDED.

I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING BETWEEN A CHILD AND HIS OR HER PARENTS FOR THE SCHOOLS TO GET INVOLVED.

THES..

I DON'T THINK THAT THESE ARE NOT -- WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE LAST CENTURY OR THE CENTURY BEFORE THE LAST CENTURY.

>> MIGHT BE THE BEST THING FOR THEM.

>> YEAH, AND.. WHAT -- YOU SAID KEVIN MCDERMOTT WAS VERY UPSET ABOUT IT, AND WHOEVER IS WRITING THE EDITORIAL.

>.. BURGER KING.

I WAS 15.

I DIDN'T PERSON 16 UNTIL SEPTEMBER.

I .. WAS NOT 16 THE WHOLE FRYING FRIES AND HOT GREASE AND ALL OF THAT, BACK IN THE '70s, WE DIDN'T CARE ABOUT THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT PASSES MUSTER OR NOT.

TO SAY YOU CAN'T HAVE A JOB UNTIL YOU ARE 16, I'M NOT BUYING IT.

SIGN OFF ON IT.

>> I THINK IT'S A WELL THOUGHT-OUT IDEA THAT WE DON'T WANT KIDS 13, 14, 15 STAYING HOME, MISSING SCHOOL SO THEY CAN WORK EVEN THOUGH -- I MEAN I WORKED IN HIGH SCHOOL, CHICKEN UNLIMITED.

I TH.. REALLY NEED TO BE IN SCHOOL AND WHO WILL OTHERWISE WILL BE WORKING 8 HOURS A DAY AT FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS.

I AGREE WITH THE EDITORIAL PAGE, BUT THIS IS NOT A GOOD IDEA.

>> THE RESTAURANT BE SUSHT TO SOME TYPE OF FINE IF THEY ARE FOUND TO BE WORKING A JOB.

>> WE COULD WORK FULL-TIME.

>> I'M A LITTLE OLDER THAN YOU GUYS.

BUT .. THING.

IF Y.. TO GET PERMISSION FROM YOUR SCHOOL.

.. START UNTIL THE 15th BIRTHDAY.

I AGREE WITH BILL, AND I AGREE WITH THE EDITORIAL PAGE.

IT'S CHILD LABOR IS WHAT IT IS.

ONE THING WE TALK ABOUT IS WE SHOULD LEAVE IT UP TO THE PARENT.

PART OF ..

IF YOU BELIEVE PARENTING TODAY IS ALWAYS RESPONSIBLE AND ALWAYS DONE WITH THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CHILD, THEN YOU DON'T NEED THAT PERMIT SYSTEM.

HOWEVER, I LIKE THE IDEA IF A SCHOOL SEES A STUDENT WHO'S 15 YEARS OLD, A GOOD KID AND SAID I WANT TO WORK 12 HOURS A WEEK AND IF THE SCHOOL LOOKS AT THE GRADES AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THE SCHOOL IS MISSING SCHOOL, PULL THE PERMIT.

>> TRUANCY IS TRUANCY FOR WHATEVER REASON.

>> WE DON'T CHASE AFTER TRUANTS.

IT'S NOT LIKE THIS IS MAYBERRY AND SOMEONE IS KNOWN AS THE LITTLEJOHN I IS NOT IN SCHOOL AND THE TRUANT OFFICER GOES TO THEM.

>> I UNDERST..

THINK IT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THEM HAVING A JOB.

>> YOU CAN STILL MOW LAWNS AND RAKE LEAVES AND SHOVEL SNOW.

YOU CAN DO ALL KINDS OF JOBS AT A KID.

>> YOU ARE LIVING IN LA LA LAND.

THEY LEARN LESSONS, LIFE LESSONS, WORKPLACE LESSONS, SOMETIMES BEING GOOD MENTORS.

>> ALVIN REID, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT REFUGEES.

CBS NEWS FOUND OUT -- UNCOVERED DOCUMENTS FROM THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION THAT THEY ARE CONSIDERING BRINGING PALESTINIAN REFUGEES TO THE COUNTRY IN A ONE-WORD TWEET, SENIOR SENATOR FROM THE GREAT STATE OF MISSOURI JOSH HAWLEY SAID NO.

WHAT DO YOU SAY?

>> HUMANITARIAN ASPECT SAYS IF YOU WANT TO BRING HOMELESS CHILDREN OVER HERE THAT LOST EVERYTHING AND WHAT'S GOING ON, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

POLITICALLY SOCIALLY, IT'S AN IMPOSSIBILITY AT THIS TIME.

I'M NOT AGAINST REFUGEES IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM, BUT AT THIS POINT, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

WHAT CAN I SAY?

I WOULDN'T EVEN SAY IT'S A GOOD IDEA.

I WILL S..

RIGHT NOW.

>> IT'S PEOPLE WHO HAVE RELATIVES HERE ALREADY, AND THEY ARE SUPPOSEDLY VETTED.

I AGREE WITH ALVIN.

IT'S NOT POSSIBLE.

>> I WONDER IF IT WAS FLOATED NOT SO MUCH FOR THE REALITY OF IT, BUT FOR THE POLITICAL FACE IT PUTS ON WITH THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION AND SAYS OH, LET'S TAKE THE GAZA REFUGEES KNOWING FULL WELL POLITICALLY IT'S IMPOSSIBLE BUT IT MAKES YOU LOOK GOOD.

>> SINCE 1980, THERE'S BEEN SOMETHING IN PLACE TO KEEP LARGE BLOCKS OF PALESTINIANS FROM COMING IN.

MAYBE MORE OF A TRICKLE WHEN THEY CAN BE VETTED EVEN FURTHER.

>> THAT'S A LEGITIMATE CONCERN RIGHT NOW.

IF THREE OUT OF FOUR PALESTINIANS SURVEYED ARE IN FAVOR OF THE OCTOBER HAMAS ATTACK, I THINK THE UNITED STATES WOULD DO WELL TO WAIT A BIT BEFORE PALESTINIANS ARE BROUGHT IN.

CHILDREN I MIGHT MAKE AN EXCEPTION FOR.

>> KIDS IN AN ORPHANAGE, I DON'T THINK THEY SURVEYED THERE.

>> I DON'T LIKE AMERICA ANYMORE, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO CANADA, AUSTRALIA, ENGLAND.

THEY WILL SAY NO, YOU ARE NOT.

>> FINAL TOPIC FOR THE EVENING OR AFTERNOON WHENEVER YOU ARE WATCHING THIS.

JOE, THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE A JAIL REVIEW BOARD IN THE CITY, AND THEY FINALLY AFTER THEY WERE PUT TOGETHER TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO ABLE TO INTERVIEW THEIR FIRST INMATE BUT ONLY WITH THE DIRECTOR OF CORRECTIONS PRESENT.

ISN'T THAT LIKE FISHING WITH THE GAME WARDEN?

SHOULD THEY REALLY HAVE HAD OVERSIGHT BY THE CITY?

>> NO, THEY SHOULDN'T.

BUT ARE YOU SURPRISED?

>> YES.

>> THE ADMINISTRATION HA..

TAKING OFFICE, AFTER SUPPORTING IN THEORY REFORM AT THE JAIL, HAS DONE EVERYTHING TO NOT MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

SO I'M NOT SURPRISED AT ALL THAT THEY SAID WELL, YOU ARE ASKING THIS PERSON ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATION'S ACTIONS TOWARDS THIS JAIL.

WE HAVE A VESTED INTEREST.

WE WANT AN ATTORNEY THERE.

THE IDEA THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS MAKING THIS AS HARD AS POSSIBLE ON THE JAIL REVIEW BOARD SHOULD NOT COME AS A SURPRISE ANYMORE TO ANYBODY.

>> NOW THEY ARE SAYING ATTORNEYS CAN'T SEE THEIR CLIENTS, CAN'T BRING CELL PHONES IN, HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO TOUR THE KITCHENS OR MEDICAL FACILITIES.

I DON'T KNOW.

BEN AND JERRY'S USED TO CLAIM ABOUT THE PREVIOUS MAYOR AND HOW SHE HANDLED CORRECTIONS.

>> IT'S THE BEN AND JERRY'S OF THE WORLD THAT ARE CONCERNED WITH IT.

ASK THE PEOPLE W.. IS TAKING PLACE.

DID YOU CARE ABOUT -- NOT PEOPLE DYING, BUT WHAT'S GOING ON DOWN AT THE JAIL?

THEY WILL TELL YOU NO, I WANT THEM IN JAIL, BECAUSE THEY ARE A THREAT TO ME AND MY FAMILY.

THIS WHOLE JAIL CRISIS IS OVER BLOWN.

&g.. SHOULD JUST RESIGN.

IF YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO REVIEW, WHY GO ALONG WITH THE CHARADE.

>>.. >> I HAVE SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY.

SORRY I SAID YOU WENT TO "MULAN" ROUGE.

>> WHY?

>> I THO.. >> MAYBE I SHOULD GO TO IT.

NO APOLOGY NEEDED.

GET TO THE OLD MAI MAILBAG.

REGARDING THE NEW LOCATION FOR THE PETER AND PAUL HOMELESS SHELTER, THIS IS A GAME CHANGING INVESTMENT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

YOU ARE CORRECT.

MORE SUPPORT FOR THE PROJECT WILL BE NEEDED IN THE FUTURE.

LET'S ALL GET BEHIND IT.

THAT FROM NANCY WAL WALSH FROM ST. LOUIS.

CORRECT RESPONSE TO FUNDING A NEW STADIUM.

JB PRITZKER SAYS HE WASN'T ON BOARD.

SLIP YOU DON'T LIKE REPUBLICANS AND MADE IT CLEAR YOU DON'T LIKE SENATOR JOSH HAWLEY.

I'M DISAPPOINTED FROM YOUR BIAS.

AND RICH HAGAN OF ST. LOUIS ROAD IT'S AMAZING IN THE DIGITAL AGE WHERE EVERYONE FILMS EVERYTHING NO MEDIA OUTLETS ARE WILLING OR ABLE TO SHOW VIDEOS OF THE FIGHTS AT WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY AND ST. LOUIS ZOO.

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