"DONNYBROOK" IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE SUPPORT OF THE BETS.. THOMAS PATTERSON FOUNDATION AND THE MEMBERS OF NINE PBS.

>> ALVIN REID SITTING IN FOR CHARLIE BRENNAN.

WELCOME TO ST. LOUIS WEEK IN REVIEW.

ACTUALLY IT'S "DONNYBROOK".

BUT JIM GILLSON IN.

AND HE AND HIS WIFE CHRISTINE HAVE BEEN MARRIED 54 YEARS TODAY.

CONGRA.. AND ALSO THE ANNIVERSA.. HARTMANN'S BIRTHDAY.

>> I WON'T GO INTO HOWEVER OLD HE IS.

AFTER HIS ANNOUN..

GOING TO RUN FOR CONGRESS, HE'S A LITTLE BIT OLDER THAN HE THINKS TODAY.

WELCOME ABOARD TO "DONNYBR..

IT'S BEEN QUITE A WEEK.

I WANT TO HAND IT OFF TO COLLEGE.

I ..

PUBLICATION CALLED RIVER FRONTED TIMES FIRST HIT THE NEWS STAND IN ST. LOUIS.

AND OVER THE YEARS I TOLD PEOPLE WE HAVE THE UNIQUE PRODUCT IN ST. LOUIS.

IT'S REALLY SPECIAL.

IT'S KIND OF WEIRD, AND KIND OF WHACKY.

AND YOU MIGHT ..

IT TO YOUR LITTLE KIDS BUT IT REALLY WAS SOMETHING SPECIAL.

ATTITUDELY YESTERDAY IT CAME TO AN END AND BY CHANCE SARAH FENSKE IS WITH US.

AND BY THE WAY, SARAH FENSKE IS WITH US.

SO IS WENDY WIESE FROM KTRS.

AND BILL MCCLELLAN, ONE OF OUR FOUNDERS AND JASON ROSENBLUM IS SITTING IN TECHNICALLY FOR ME IN MY SEAT.

SORRY TO MISS MY INTRODUCTION.

I WILL COME BACK TO YOU, SARAH.

ANYWAY, REALLY BAD NEWS FOR THE ENTIRE REGION.

JUST YOUR THOUGHTS.

WHERE DOES THE PUBLICATION.. FROM HERE?

>> I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A PUBLICATION.

THE .. WE DID NOT JUST SHUT DOWN.

WE WERE SOLD TO AN UNDISCLOSED BUYER.

GETTING IN THE LAST WHIRL WIND 48 HOURS OR SO, WHO IS THE DISCLOSE BY?

I KNOW THEY DID NOT WANT TO RETAIN ANY OF THE STAFF AT THE RIVERFRONT TIMES.

THEY WERE NOT INTERESTED IN HAVING A CONVERSATION OR LOOKING AT THE STORIES WE HAD ALREADY EDITED THAT WERE ALL SET TO GO, PHOTOGRAPHS THAT WERE TAKEN AND EDITED AND COULD HAVE GONE LIVE THAT DAY.

THEY APPEAR TO BE BUYING THE WEBSITE.

I DON'T .. TO DO WITH IT.

MY SENSE IS IT WILL NOT BE JOURNALISM IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM, AND THERE WILL NOT BE A PRINT ISSUE.

AND .. NOBODY HAS ASKED ME FOR IT, AND I WOULD HAPPILY TURN IT OVER.

IT'S A STRANGE WAY TO GO OUT.

IT'S BEEN VERY SAD, I WILL BE HONEST.

THE ONE SORT O.. AND HEARING FROM PEOPLE WHAT IT MEANT TO THEM.

IT'S A PUBLICATION THAT DIDN'T ALWAYS GET A LOT OF RESPECT WHILE IT WAS ALIVE.

IT'S NICE TO KNOW IN SPITE OF THAT NOW THAT IT'S GONE, A LOT OF PEOPLE TRULY LOVED THIS THING AND I LOVED IT A LOT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO TO DO WITH MYSELF.

>.. HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT IT MIGHT NOT HAVE FELT LIKE THE RFT WAS GETTING A LOT OF LOVE.

IT'S ALWAYS BEEN PART OF THE FABRIC OF THIS COMMUNITY, AND YOU AND YOUR STAFF BREATHED BRAND-NEW LIFE INTO BOTH, THE PAPER AND THE COMMUNITY.

THAT JUST ISN'T GOING TO GO AWAY, BECAUSE YOU MADE IT INTO A PRESENCE.

YOU MADE IT A ..

CONVERSATION.

YOU HAD THE DEMEANOR AT LEAST OF A NEWSPAPER THREE TIMES YOUR SIZE.

YOU COVERED EVERYTHING.

YOU COVERED IT WELL.

IT'S A GREAT LOSS FOR THE CITY, BUT I KNOW I SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY WHEN I SAY WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR NEXT CHAPTER, ALL OF YOU.

YOU, RYAN, ALL OF YOUR WONDERFUL REPORTERS.

DANN.. >> WHEN YOU SAY A WEBSITE, THERE'S A LOT OF US WHO DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE SOCIAL MEDIA THING.

WHEN SOMEBODY BUYS THE RFT JUST TO SHUT IT DOWN, I MEAN, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

WHEN YOU SAY MAYBE IT WILL BECOME A WEBSITE, EXACTLY WHAT DO YOU MEAN?

>> SOMEONE COULD RESURRECT IT AND HIRE A WHOLE BUNCH OF REPORTERS THAT IS JUST DIFFERENT THAN US.

I WOULD WELCOMED THAT.

I WOULD GREET THAT PUBLICATION WITH OPEN ARMS AS LONG AS REPORTERS WANT TO DO RIGHT BY ST. LOUIS AND TRYING TO SEEK THE TRUTH.

I .. THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE.

KIND OF THE CONCEPT OF ZOMBIE WEBSITES WHERE THEY HAVE THE ARCHIVES OF NEWSPAPERS THAT ONCE HAD ROBUST COVERAGE, AND IT SEEMS TO BE OF USE THAT YOU CAN GET PEOPLE TO STILL CLICK OTISING THROUGH THAT.

THIS IS JUST A THEORY AGAIN.

I DON'T KNOW WHO BOUGHT THIS THING, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENED AROUND THE COUNTRY TO OTHER PUBLICATIONS.

>> I WANT TO CHIME IN.

I WAS A PART OF THE RIVERFRONT TIMES FAMILY, ALBEIT IN A VERY SMALL WAY.

IN THE EARLY 2010S WHEN I WAS UNEMPLOYED, THE RIVERFRONT TIMES GAVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO WRITE FOR THE MUSIC SECTION.

I'M NOT GOING TO LIE.

THE PAY WAS NOT GREAT.

>> NEVER HAS BEEN GOOD.

>> BUT IT REALLY KEPT MY PASSION FOR JURCHJOURNALISM ALIVE AND IT WAS ALWAYS WANING.

I GOT TO WRITE ABOUT MUSIC.. GAMES, WHICH IS A SECRET PASSION OF MINE.

I OWN LIKE 1,300 SONGS.

IT REALLY IS AN HONOR TO BE PART OF THIS, LIKE, WEIRD FRATERNITY OF THE RIVERFRONT TIMES.

I KNOW I'M NOT THE ONLY JOURNALIST IN ST. LOUIS WHO HAS A SIMILAR STORY LIKE THIS.

>> ONE MORE QUESTION BEFORE WE MOVE ON.

THEY HAVE BOUGHT ALL OF YOUR ARCHIVES?

HAVE THE.. ARCHIVES?

>> THEY AP..

THE WEBSITE AND THE WEBSITE AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS, AND WE ARE LOCKED OUT OF, THEY OWN THAT.

HOWEVER, THERE'S BOUND COPIES OF THE RIVERFRONT TIMES DATING BACK TO RAY HARTMANN'S SECOND ISSUE, AND THEY HAD NO IDEA THIS PAPER WOULD GO AS LONG AS IT DID.

I HAVE GOTTEN PERMISSION FROM THE OLD OWNER THAT WASH-U LIBRARIES WANTS TO ARCHIVE THEM.

THEY DIDN'T WANT IT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.

>> IT IS INDEED JUST A SAD DAY.

IF I HIT THE POWERBALL LATER TONIGHT, IS IT POSSIBLE I COULD BUY THE NAME AND EITHER TRY TO RESURRECT IT?

>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE COME TO YOU, CAN WE GET MONEY TOGETHER AND TRY TO BE LIKE THE NEW THING LIKE THE RFT.

>> 3.5 MILLION PEOPLE, IF 1 MILLION DONATED $50 TO A FUND, IT WOULD BE $50 MILLION, AND I'M SURE WE CAN BUY IT FROM THE TYRANNICAL OWNER.

>> HERE IS THE THING.

PEOPLE WILL NOT DO THAT.

PEOPLE WILL BE ANGRY IF YOU ASK THEM TO HAVE AN AD.

THEY WILL TRY TO PUT AN AD BLOCKER SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO PATRONIZE THE PERSON SUPPORTING YOU.

NEWS FROM NEWSPAPERS ANYMORE.

THEY WANT TO BE STARING AT TIKTOK ALL DAY.

THIS IS NOT THE FAULT OF THE MAN THAT OWNED THE COMPANY THAT I WORKED FOR.

HE DID TRY TO FIND A LOCAL.. FOR THIS AND WANTED TO FIND A WAY TO SAVE THE JOURNALISM JOBS HERE.

THIS DIGITAL AGE TO KEEP THIS GOING.

THAT I.. ALL.

Z.

BUT CARA SPENCER WILL TAKE ON TISHAURA JONES IN THE MAYORAL RACE IN 2025, JUST AROUND THE CORNER.

.. SOUTH OR BLACK VERSUS WHITE?

WHERE ARE WE GOING WITH ALL OF THIS?

.. TISHAURA JONES AND CARA SPENCER HAD A LOT OF THE SAME PEOPLE, KIND OF THE CORRIDOR PEOPLE.

LIBERAL WHITES, PROGRESSIVE BLACKS.

I ..

INTERESTING THAT THERE WILL BE A MAYORAL RACE.

I WAS AFRAID, NOTHING AGAINST TISHAURA JONES, BUT I WAS AFRAID THERE WOULD BE NO SERIOUS CANDIDATE, AND COMPETITION IS ALWAYS GOOD.

TISHAURA WILL GET TO SEE IF PEOPLE HAVE BOUGHT IN THE IDEA IF WE ARE IN THE BEGINNING OF A RENAISSANCE OR WHETHER THEY THINK WE HAVE TO CHANGE.

>> AS I'M SURE TISHAURA JONES WOULD LOVE TO THINK WAS JIMMY MATTHEWS, BUT I DO THINK IT'S PROBABLY GOOD FOR HER LONG-TERM TO RUN A REAL REELECTION CAMPAIGN AGAINST THE PERSON THAT SHE BEAT ONLY BY LESS THAN 4 PERCENTAGE POINTS.

I THINK THE BIG THING THAT CARA SPENCER IS GOING TO TRY TO ARGUE IS THAT CITY SERVICES HAVE NOT BEEN UP TO SNUFF.

MAYBE THAT ISN'T REALLY TISHAURA JONES FAULT.

THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF HIRING PROBLEMS AFTER THE PANDEMIC, CITY HIRING IS REALLY HARD BECAUSE THE CITY IS IT NEXT TO THE COUNTY, WHICH IS NEXT TO ST. CHARLES C OUNTY, WHICH ARE ALL LUCRATIVE GOVERNMENT JOBS.

TO YOUR POINT, I DO THINK IT WILL BE NORTH VERSUS SOUTH.

THE BIG THING WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO SEE, BECAUSE I THINK TISHAURA JONES WILL LIKELY WIN THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTE IF THERE'S ANOTHER WHITE CANDIDATE, AND IT'S WHETHER TISHAURA JONES WHITE SUPPORT AS ATROPHIED.

>> OLD AGAINST NEW.

IF YOU REMEMBER, CARA SPENCER HAD A LOT OF THE OLD TIME HE PEOPLE ON HER SIDE.

I THINK IT WILL PROBABLY BE MORE OF THE SAME.

>> AS THE LONE CITY RESIDENT.

>> THAT'S THE WAY OF TELLING THE REST OF US BE QUIET.

>> I DON'T KNOW EVEN KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

BUT I THINK THE ARGUMENT ABOUT CITY SERVICES NOT BEING UP TO SNUFF CAN BE A EXCELLING ARGUMENT.

A LOT OF.. KIND OF IN A FOUL MOOD.

WE FEEL LIKE A LOT OF THINGS ARE BROKEN, SICK OF THE POTHOLES, AND TRASH PICKED UP AND BACK TO BASICS PLAY I COULD SEE WORKING HERE.

.. HARD ROAD TO CLIMB HERE.

THIS IS VERY MUCH MAYOR JONES' RACE TO LOSE, NOT JUST BECAUSE OF THE RACE FACTOR AND THE STRONG SUPPORT SHE'S GOING TO SEE FROM THE NORTH SIDE.

SPENCER IS GOING TO SEE NO SUPPORT AT ALL FROM THE NORTH SIDES, I THINK JONES HAS MANY PROGRESSIVE VOTERS IN THAT PROGRESSIVE CORNER.

IF ANYTHING, THEY THINK SH.. GOVERNED TOO MUCH AS A CENTRIST AND THOSE VOTERS AREN'T GOING TO GO TO CARA SPENCER WHATSOEVER.

>> TISHAURA JONES HAS A RECORD AND IT GIVES CARA SOMETHING TO LATCH ON TO.

>> YOU KNOW, GET CONTROL OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE WILL GET TO THAT IN JUST A SECOND.

IF IT SEALS SEEMS LIKE IF IT HOLDS, BUT THE WHOLE TOWN, YOU COULD RUN THAT COMMERCIAL ONCE AN HOUR.

AND THAT'S..

I KNOW PEOPLE CAN AND WILL SAY THE NUMBERS ARE THIS AND THAT.

AND HEY, I'M GOING TO REDUCE CRIME AND CRIME IS REDUCED.

IT'S A MADE TO ORDER.

>> IT'S THE NO.

1 ISSUE IN ST. LOUIS, AND IT WILL BE.

ABSOLUTELY.

I AG.. >> AND HE SENT ME A NICE NOTE.

AND JIM SCHUSTER IS ALIVE AND WELL.

>> AND JIM..

HE LOOKS FANTASTIC.

>> YOU WILL ALSO SEE THE FIREFIGHTERS ARE GOING TO BE LINING UP BEHIND SPENCER.

SPENCER ALWAYS HADN'T HAD HISTORICALLY THE GREATEST RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COP.

I THINK SHE WILL BE ABLE TO WIN A LOT OF THEM OVER IF IT'S A TWO-PERSON RACE.

>> ETHICAL SOCIETY OF POLICE WANTED THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO GO TO STATE CONTROL, AND THEY LOST.

TH.. AND JAMES THE LEGISLATURE CAME TO A CLOSE, AND IT WAS ANTICLIMATIC AND PRETTY SAD.

>> LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY, ALVIN, THE LEGISLATURE WAS SO INACTIVE ON THURSDAY AND FRIDAY THAT I GOT TO GO TO EAST SIDE TAVERN IN COLUMBIA TWICE TO DO KARAOKE.

I CA..

ABLE TO DO IT TWICE IN ALL LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE LEGISLATURE WAS DOING SOMETHING.

THIS..

UNPRODUCTIVE LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

WE.. SAYING THERE WERE FEWER NONBUDGET BILLS PASSED, COMPARED TO THE PANDEMIC.

SOME PEOPLE WOULD SAY THERE'S NOT A BAD THING.

THE GREATEST THREAT TO FREEDOM IS WHEN THE MISSOURI LEGISLATURE IS IN SESSION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

NO.

1 PRIORITY PASSED, ARGUABLY THEIR NO.

1 PRIORITY PASSED.

IT'S ENOUGH TO MAKE THE MISSOURI CONSTITUTION HARDER TO AMEND AND PART OF IT WAS BECAUSE OF REPUBLICAN IN-FIGHTING AND PART OF THE WAS BECAUSE OF THE DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS, WHICH IS THE LONGEST FILIBUSTER IN HISTORY.

I THINK IT COULD BE THE END OF THE SUPER MAJORITY ERA.

WITH ABORTION BEING ON THE BALLOT, THERE IS FEELING THIS DEMOCRATS WILL PICK UP SEATS IN THE SUBURBAN PART IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE.

WHEN IT MEANS VERY MUCH IT DEPENDS IF THEY ARE GOING TO WIN THE RACE.

>> TELL US ABOUT RI RIZZO.

SENATE MAJORITY LIZ ON, I THINK HE'S GOING TO BE RESIGNING TO BECOME THE HEAD OF THE JACKSON COUNTY SPORTS COMPLEX AUTHORITY, THIS IS GOING TO BE A BIG DEAL IN KANSAS CITY.

>> MEANINGLESS FOR US.

>> SERVES STATEWIDE OFFICE HERE.

>> THAT'S THE INTERESTING THING.

HE WAS MAKING ALL OF THESE ROUSING SPEECHES AND TALKING ABOUT PROTECTING DEMOCRACY, BUT EVERYONE KNEW HE WASN'T GOING TO RUN FOR ANYTHING.

HE DIDN'T SIGN UP.

I'M LIKE WHY ISN'T THIS GUY RUNNING FOR STATEWIDE OFFICE?

EVERYBODY RUNNING FOR STATEWIDE OFFICE IS MISERABLE AND EVERYBODY THAT'S PASSED ON IT IS HAVING THE TIME OF THEIR LIVES.

THEY ARE EITHER IN MEXICO.

>> SINGING KARAOKE AT EAST SIDE TAVERN.

.. >> PLAYING A SLOTT MACHINE.

>> RUNNING FOR STATEWIDE OFFICE ISN'T VERY FUN RIGHT NOW.

BUFFALO STANCE BY ANYONE A CHERRY IS MY GO-TO.

BUT IT'S A SONG FROM THE LATE '80s ACTUALLY.

LATEEE 80s WERE LIKE A BLACK HOLE.

>> WINNERS AND LOSERS DO.. JEFF CITY.

RIZZO WAS A WINNER BUT HE'S NOT RUNNING FOR OFFICE.

I WOULD SAY MAYOR JONES BECAUSE OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ISSUE.

>> I WILL GIVE YOU A LOSER.

A LOSER WAS THE MISSOURI FREEDOM CAUCUS.

THESE GUYS CAN..

ANYONE.

IT'S INCREDIBLE HOW THEY PLAN TO BLOW OFF THE GOALS OF THEIR OWN PARTY.

I IMAGINE BEING IN A CROWDED BAR, THE ROOM WOULD GO SILENT AND EVERYONE WOULD WALK OUT.

>> MAYBE BILL HAS MADE ENOUGH OF A NAME FOR HIMSELF WITH ASHCROFT, A THREE-PERSON RACE, AND MAYBE IDLE HAS ENOUGH NAME RECOGNITION NOW.

>> I THI.. ASHCROFT.

THER.. SECRETARY OF STATE IS THE FAVORITE, BECAUSE HIS NAME IS TECHNICALLY JOHN ASHCROFT.

I THINK HE'S JOHN ASHCROFT JUNIOR, AND THAT MEANS HE'S JOHN ASHCROFT'S SON.

THERE IS..

ATTACKING HIM SO MUCH WITH ADS, INCLUDING ONE THAT TURNS JAY ASHCROFT INTO A LIT YOU RECALL FISH.

AND IF JAY ASHCROFT SINKS, IT COULD RISE FROM THE ASHES.

>> IF WE ARE READING YOUR ARTICLES CORRECTLY THAT THEY WERE ALL MORE INTERESTED IN BUILDING THEIR INDIVIDUAL BRANDS THAN MOVING LEGISLATION FORWARD.

>> I THINK SO, BUT PART OF IT COULD BE BECAUSE REPUBLICANS HAVE KIND OF RUN OUT OF THINGS TO DO.

STATE GOVERNMENT NOW FOR ALMOST 8 YEARS AND BANNED MOST ABORTIONS.

YOU .. CONTROL LAWS.

THEY HAVE CUT TAXES AND DONE ALL OF THESE THINGS FOR THE AGRICULTURAL INDUSTRY.

WHEN YOU GET TO SOMETHING LIKE INITIATIVE POSITIONS AND CHANGING THE CONSTITUTION, PEOPLE ARE ENERGIZED ABOUT THAT, GOING TO LINCOLN DAYS AND GRASSROOTS DINNERS, BUT IF YOU ASK MOM AND DAD AT RICHMOND HEIGHT SNOOKS, ARE YOU TALKING LIKE FIXING COMPUTERS OR SOMETHING?

>> ANYWAY, I AM KIND OF WITH YOU, IT'S GOOD THEY ARE NOT IN SESSION ANY LONGER, AND IF YOU WANT ME TO STAY, IT'S MY GO TO KARAOKE SONG.

PEOPLE ARE GOI..

THEY ARE GOING TO DOWNTOWN AND MAYOR AND THE ST. LOUIS INC. AND THE POLICE CHIEF ARE SAYING IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT BRIGHTER AND SAFER.

DOWNTOWN MAKE A BIG COME-B..

THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.

>> KIND OF MADE ME WONDER IF THE WISH LIST WOULD BE AS COMPREHENSIVE -- THIS SEEMS LIKE IT HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH CARA'S ANNOUNCEMENT THAT SHE'S RUNNING FOR MAYOR.

IT'S VERY AMBITIOUS.

ANOTHER INDUSTRY PART OF ALL OF THIS, IF IT'S THE CRIME STATS, THEN THEY ARE SOLID.

IF IT'S THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE LEFT THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, THEN THOSE ARE ALWAYS OPEN FOR DEBATE.

BUT THE RETAIL SIDEWALK CA.. THAT KIND OF THING, IT'S AMBITIOUS.

SHE'S A POLITICIAN.

SHE'S GOING TO ADDRESS.

SHE WANTS THE RAILWAY BUILDING, THE EXCHANGE BUILDING ADDRESSED BY SEPTEMBER.

>> SHE G..

DEADLINE.

>> SO IT'S VERY VAGUE.

THE COMBINATION BETWEEN GREATER ST. LOUIS INC., THE ST. LOUIS DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.

I HOPE IT WORKS.

BUT THIS EXPLAINS WHY SHE KEPT TALKING ABOUT A CULTURAL RENAISSANCE DURING HER STATE OF THE CITY ADDRESS.

>> SARAH, I BELIEVE YOU ARE THE ONLY PERSON THAT ACTUALLY LIVES IN THE CITY.

>> IS THERE TOO MUCH DOWNTIME TO TALK?

&g..

DOWNTOWN.

I UN..

GOING TO BE WHAT IT WAS PREPANDEMIC AND SO MANY FACTORS THAT GO INTO THIS, BUT AS LONG AS DOWNTOWN IS STRUGGLING IN THE WAY THAT IT HAS RECENTLY, IT GIVES ST. LOUIS A BLACK EYE.

AND PROBLEMS FOR CONVENTION BUSINESS, AND PROBLEMS FOR KEEPING SPORTS TEAMS IN THE CITY, AND IF DOWNTOWN DOESN'T WORK, WHY NOT GO TO ILLINOIS OR CHESTERFIELD?

THERE'.. BEEN PUSHING SO HARD ON FIX DOWNTOWN.

IT'S..

ATTACKING THESE TWO PARTICULAR BUILDINGS THAT ARE TO BLAME FOR THE DOOM LOOP THAT THE WALL STREET JOURNAL PICKUPLY SIZED, BOTH HAVE OUT OF TOWN OWNERS.

ST. LOUIS CITY IN SO MANY WAYS, THERE'S YOUNG FAMILIES HERE THAT ARE ATTRACTED TO BE HERE.

SOME NEIGHBORS ARE THRIVING, I PROMISE YOU COUNTY FOLK, BUT TO HAVE THESE OUT OF TOWN OWNERS THAT CREATE THE EYESORES THAT ARE DANGEROUS SITUATIONS AND HAD THAT BEEN ALLOWED TO FESTER, IT'S GOING TO BE A GOOD THING IN TERMS OF KEY BLOCKS OF DOWNTOWN.

IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO PULL IT OFF BY SEPTEMBER.

I'M EXCITED THEY ARE.. ENERGY INTO THIS AND SAY WE HAVE TO GET THIS DONE.

THEY HAD THE CITY SOCIAL EVENT LAST WEEKEND AND BROUGHT A LOT OF PEOPLE DOWNTOWN, AND NOT A BAD THING HAPPENED TO ANYONE.

>> I PULLED IT OFF.

>> YOU NEED SO MUCH MONEY TO DEVELOP THE TWO BIG BUILDINGS.

IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE.

GETTING LOCAL MONEY FOR IT, I DON'T THINK IT'S POSSIBLE.

>> WITH THE GREATER ST. LOUIS INC. AND CARDINALS AND ALL OF THAT SORT OF ENERGY GOING INTO IT, YOU DON'T THINK IT COULD BE DONE?

>> NOT T..

PLAYING NOW.

>> THEY HAVE IMPROVED.

>> I THINK I'M THE ONLY PERSON ON THE PANEL FROM CHICAGO.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> OKAY.

GOOD.

>.. MY WIFE IS FROM THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE CHICAGO BUT SHE'S A CUBS FAN AND I'M A WHITE SOX FAN.

WE WERE CALLING CHICAGO SOUTH.

>> TWO WHITE SOX FANS AT THE TABLE, TOO.

BIZARRE LITTLE GROUP OF PEOPLE WE HAVE GOT HERE.

WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY PROFESSOR WHO DOESN'T KNOW IF HE HAS A JOB.

WHAT IS ..

THIS IS RAMIFICATIONS FROM THE PROTESTS AND ONGOING, AND HOW IS THIS BEING HANDLED?

WHAT DO WE DO FOR THE POOR GENTLEMAN?

>> BEING HANDLED POORLY.

I WAS NOT THUD ABOU THUD ABOUT THE PROTEST AND WASHINGTON ADJUSTOR DID A RIGHT THING CLEARING THE EXAMPLE.

..

BESIDES THE FACTS THAT HE CAN'T COME IN.

THIS IS IN THE RFT.

>> ONE OF OUR FINAL STORIES.

>> AND THIS GUY SAID HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HIS FUTURE IS BECAUSE HE CAN'T FIND OUT.

IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY SHOULD AT LEAST HAVE THE GRACE TO SAY WE DON'T EVER WANT TO SEE YOU AGAIN, OR YOU ARE GOING TO COME BACK ON DOUBLE SECRET PROBATION OR WHATEVER THEY ARE GOING TO DO, BUT THEY OUGHT TO DO SOMETHING.

NOBODY SHOULD BE LEFT HANGING.

>> AND I WOULD ALSO SAY IF THEY THOUGHT I WAS A THREAT TO STUDENTS OR THAT PEOPLE FELT UNSAFE BECAUSE OF MY PRESENCE, BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN IN SOME OF THESE COASTAL PROTESTS THAT JEWISH STUDENTS HAVE BEEN MADE TO FEEL UNSAFE.

THIS IS A JEWISH PERSON HIMSELF.

HE SPOKE ABOUT HIS FAITH WITH THE REPORTER, HIS HERITAGE, AND THEY CAN'T EVEN TELL HIM OR LET HIM GO THROUGH SOME SORT OF DISCIPLINARY PROCESS AND LEAVE HIM IN LIMBO.

THAT FEELS WRONG TO ME.

>> MAYBE THEY HAVEN'T DECIDED.

>> WHEN THE SUN SETS.

>> YOU GET A HEARING BEFORE US WITH THIS, AND WE UNDERSTAND YOU CAN'T REACH YOUR E-MAIL TO WRITE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR YOUR STUDENTS.

BU..

PROCESS THAT GOES LIKE THIS, AND THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS.

>> WHERE CAN'T HE WRITE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HIS STUDENTS?

>..

THE E-MAILS.

>> THEY HAVE LEGAL BADS.

HE COULD STILL WRITE IT.

>> MAYBE WITH A BALL POINT PEN.

>> FEATHER OR SOMETHING.

>> I THINK IT WOULD BE HARDER FOR HIS STUDENTS TO ACCESS IT IS WHAT HE SAID.

>> LAST TWO MINUTES.

WHITNEY, JACK DANFORTH WANTS TO SAVE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, THE GUY THAT GAVE US JOSH HAWLEY AND CLARENCE THOMAS.

COULD HE BE THE WOUNDED CH.. AND ACTUALLY SAVE US FROM MR. TRUMP'S REPUBLICAN PARTY?

>> I DON'T THINK SO.

I THINK BILL B.. WEEK THAT HE WAS GOING TO VOTE FOR THE PERSON HE BELIEVES TO BE DANGEROUS AND NARCISSISTIC TO THE EXTREME AND ALL THE OTHER AWFUL THINGS HE SAID ABOUT DONALD TRUMP, HE CONFIRMED THAT HE WAS GOING TO VOTE FOR HIM.

TODAY NIKKI HALEY'S ANNOUNCEMENT THAT SHE'S ALSO -- AFTER EVERYTHING THAT SHE SAID DURING HER PRIMARY BATTLE, SHE SAID THAT SHE IS GOING TO VOTE FOR HIM.

VERY, VERY STRONG, AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY CHANCE FOR A NEW REPUBLICAN PARTY.

>> I TALKED WITH SENATOR DANFORTH THIS WEEK.

HE UNDERSTANDS THAT IT'S DONE, RIGHT NOW IT'S THE TRUMP PARTY.

AT THIS POINT EVENTUALLY TRUMP WILL BE GONE AND IF HE LOSES TO JOE BIDEN, THERE'S GOING TO BE AN APPETITE FOR SOMEBODY NOT TRUMP.

&g..

DRUM.

>> SOME OF THE IDEALS THAT CAUSE REPUBLICANS LIKE GEORGE H.W.

AND W. BUSH TO WIN ELECTIONS LIKE FREE TRADE, MILITARY INTERVENTIONALLISM COULD MAKE THE PARTY MORE INTERESTING AND MORE APPEALING.

>> REMEMBER, HE TRIED TO GET JOHN WOOD TO RUN FOR SENATE BECAUSE DANFORTH FELT MISSOURI WANTED A CENTRIST, THEY REALLY WANTED SOMEONE LIKE A YOUNG ME, AND THEY DIDN'T.

>> SARAH, THANKS SO MUCH.

IT'S A HARD DAY, AND YOU HAPPENED TO LAND WITH US.

>> HAPPY TO BE HERE.

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ONCE.. MUCH.

AND JASON ROSENBLUM THANK YOU FOR SITTING IN WITH US AS WELL.

CHARLIE WILL BE BACK NEXT WEEK, AND I WILL, TOO.

AND IT IS "DONNYBROOK".

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