Greater Boston
May 26, 2021
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May 26, 2021
Season 2021 Episode 77 | 28m 30sVideo has Closed Captions
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship>> Braude: TONIGHT ON "GREATER BOSTON": A YEAR AND A DAY AFTER GEORGE FLOYD WAS MURDERED BY POLICE, THE COUNTRY'S TOP ANTI-RACISM SCHOLAR, DR. IBRAM X. KENDI, JOINS ME ON WHAT, IF ANYTHING, HAS CHANGED SINCE, AND WHY HE CAN IMAGINE A NATION WITHOUT RACISM AND INEQUALITY.
THEN, LATER, A LOOK AT ONE LOCAL GROUP HELPING YOUNG PEOPLE OF COLOR FIND THEIR VOICE THROUGH FILM.
PLUS, TWO NEW PHOTOGRAPHERS ON THEIR AWARD-WINNING WORK CAPTURING A TUMULTUOUS 2020.
AND, FINALLY, REMEMBERING A FEW OF THE MANY WE'VE LOST TO COVID.
♪♪ >> Braude: WHEN OUTRAGE EXPLODED IN THE DAYS, WEEKS, AND MONTHS AFTER GEORGE FLOYD WAS MURDERED -- A YEAR AGO YESTERDAY -- MANY AMERICANS, PARTICULARLY THE ONES WHO LOOK LIKE ME, ACTED LIKE RACISM ORIGINATED WITH DEREK CHAUVIN AND WAS ADDRESSED WHEN THE JURY SAID GUILTY.
OTHERS TURNED TO THE WORK OF MY NEXT GUEST, AUTHOR AND HISTORIAN DR. IBRAM X. KENDI, WHOSE 2019 AND 2016 BOOKS, "HOW TO BE AN ANTI-RACIST" AND "STAMPED FROM THE BEGINNING: THE DEFINITIVE HISTORY OF RACIST IDEAS IN AMERICA," AMONG OTHERS, JUMPED TO THE TOP OF THE "NEW YORK TIMES" BEST-SELLER LIST.
LAST YEAR DR. KENDI ALSO LAUNCHED A NEW CENTER FOR ANTI-RACIST RESEARCH AT BOSTON UNIVERSITY, WHERE HE'S ALSO A PROFESSOR.
AND NOW HE AND THE CENTER ARE TEAMING UP WITH "THE BOSTON GLOBE" OPINION TEAM TO "RESURRECT AND REIMAGINE" THE "EMANCIPATOR," THE COUNTRY'S FIRST ABOLITIONIST NEWSPAPER.
AND IF ALL THAT WASN'T ENOUGH, HE'S ALSO THE HOST OF A FORTHCOMING PODCAST CALLED, "BE ANTI-RACIST."
HE'S A CONTRIBUTOR AT THE "ATLANTIC" AND CBS NEWS -- OH, AND HE WAS NAMED TO "TIME MAGAZINE'S" LIST OF TOP 100 MOST INFLUENTIAL PEOPLE IN 2020.
I THINK THAT'S ABOUT ENOUGH.
DR. KENDI JOINS ME NOW.
>> Braude: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING ME.
>> Doctor: I'M HONORED TO BE ON THE SHOW.
>> Braude: WHAT WAS YESTERDAY LIKE FOR YOU?
>> Doctor: I THINK I HAD A MIX, YOU KNOW, OF EMOTIONS, BUT PROBABLY THE MOST PREDOMINANT EMOTIONS WERE REMEMBERING WHEN LAST YEAR I LEARNED THAT GIANNA, GEORGE FLOYD'S DAUGHTER, REALLY MISSED HER FATHER FLYING HER ON HIS BACK.
AND WHEN I LEARNED THAT, YOU KNOW, I WAS -- IT REALLY SORT OF BROKE ME DOWN BECAUSE I HAVE A DAUGHTER WHO ALSO LOVES WHEN I FLY HER ON MY BACK AND TO PLAY AIRPLANE.
SO JUST THINKING THAT HUMAN BEING WAS TREATED AS IF HE WAS A MONSTER WHEN THE REAL MONSTER IS RACISM, AND NOW BECAUSE OF THAT MONSTER OF RACISM, HIS DAUGHTER IS NOT ABLE TO DO THE AIRPLANE GAME WITH HIM, IS REALLY WHAT PREDOMINATED WHAT I WAS THINKING YESTERDAY.
>> Braude: WE ALL SEEM TO LIKE TO SAY THAT THIS PAST YEAR HAS BEEN ONE OF A RACIAL RECKONING.
HAS IT BEEN?
>> Doctor: I THINK FOR SOME PEOPLE.
AND FOR SOME PEOPLE, FOR WHATEVER REASON, IT TOOK SOMEONE LIKE GEORGE FLOYD, OR EVEN BREONNA TAYLOR, OR EVEN THE DISPARITIES DURING COVID-19, IN WHICH BLACK, BROWN, AND INDIGENOUS PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED AT THE HIGHEST RATES, TO REALIZE THAT THERE WAS A HUGE PROBLEM ON OUR HANDS, THAT STRUCTURAL RACISM EXISTED, IT HARMED PEOPLE.
AND SO THEY BECAME MORE AWARE, OR EVEN MORE AWARE OF THE WAYS IN WHICH THEY'RE CONTRIBUTING TO THAT.
BUT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SORT OF CONTINUED TO SWIM IN THEIR OWN DENIAL.
>> Braude: YOU KNOW, VIRTUALLY EVERYONE I KNOW SAYS THEY HAVE READ YOUR BOOK.
SORT OF EVERYBODY IN 1963 WAS AT THE MARCH ON WASHINGTON.
BUT EVEN IF THEY HAVE YET TO READ YOUR BOOK, I THINK MOST OF THEM KNOW THAT THE OPPOSITE OF BEING RACIST ISN'T NON-RACIST; IT IS ACTIVELY ANTI-RACIST.
CAN YOU TRANSLATE THAT INTO PRACTICAL TERMS?
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IN A TYPICAL DAY OF SOMEONE WHO IS STRIVING TO GET THERE BUT ISN'T QUITE THERE YET?
>> Doctor: WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT AS WE EMBARK ON THE WORLD AND WE SEE, FOR INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, A RACIAL GROUP ON THE LOWER END OF THE DISPARITY, WE DON'T THINK IT IS BECAUSE THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THOSE PEOPLE.
WHEN WE SEE BLACK PEOPLE DYING FROM POLICE VIOLENCE, WE TRY TO THINK OF, OKAY, WHAT ARE ARE THE POLICIES AND PRACTICES THAT ARE LEADING TO THIS DISPROPORTIONATE AMOUNT OF BLACK PEOPLE DYING AT THE HANDS OF POLICE.
AND THEN HOW CAN I FIGHT AGAINST THAT?
HOW CAN I CHALLENGE THE IDEAS THAT BLACK PEOPLE ARE DANGEROUS?
HOW CAN I CHALLENGE THAT IN MY OWN LIFE, WHEN I'M WALKING DOWN THE STREET AND I SEE A BLACK PERSON WHO I DON'T KNOW, AM I FEELING FEARFUL?
WHEN I DO, HOW DO I CONFRONT MYSELF AND CHANGE MYSELF?
>> Braude: I'D LIKE TO TURN TO THE PROJECT I JUST MENTIONED, WHEN IT WAS ANNOUNCED -- WHEN THE EMANCIPATOR WAS FIRST FOUNDED IN 1820, IT WAS DIFFICULT TO BELIEVE THAT SLAVERY 45 YEARS LATER WOULD BE NO MORE, JUST AS I THINK THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE TODAY WHO CANNOT IMAGINE THERE WOULD BE A NATION WITHOUT RACISM AND INEQUALITY.
SADLY I AM ONE OF THEM.
WHAT DO YOU SEE THAT I DON'T?
>> Doctor: I DON'T THINK WE SEE ANYTHING DIFFERENTLY.
IT IS FOR ME, I DON'T BELIEVE WE CAN CREATE THAT NATION WITHOUT RACIAL EQUALITY AND JUSTICE IF WE DON'T BELIEVE IT IS POSSIBLE.
SO ABOLITIONISTS IN BOSTON BELIEVE THAT WE CAN ELIMINATE, ABOLISH SLAVERY, AND PEOPLE THOUGHT THEY WERE CRAZY.
BUT IT WAS THAT BELIEF, IT WAS THAT IMAGINARY THAT REALLY DROVE THEM, IN THAT BELIEF THAT WE CAN CREATE AN ANTI-RACIST NATION, AND THAT HAS TO DRIVE US TODAY.
>> Braude: IS PART OF THIS -- I REMEMBER IN THE OPENING OF YOUR BOOK, YOU MAKE A CONFESSION THAT I WOULD NEVER HAVE MADE, THAT I GAVE A SPEECH AS A KID, AS A TEEN, THAT WAS RACIST.
DO YOU BELIEVE THAT AND ARE AS HOPEFUL AS YOU JUST APPEAR TO BE THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE MADE THAT JOURNEY, OR IS THAT JUST A PIECE OF YOUR STORY?
>> Doctor: I DO THINK THAT PART OF MY BELIEF IN THE CAPACITY FOR PEOPLE TO CHANGE IS BECAUSE I KNOW I HAVE CHANGED.
I KNOW THAT 20 YEARS AGO, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT THE PROBLEM WAS BLACK PEOPLE AS OPPOSED TO RACISM.
AND IT HAS BEEN A JOURNEY FOR ME TO -- THIS JOURNEY TO BE ANTI-RACIST, TO OVERCOME AND UNLEARN IDEAS.
I ALSO KNOW, AS SOMEONE WHO IS SURVIVING, YOU KNOW, STAGE FOUR COLON CANCER, WHICH WAS VIRTUALLY SORT OF IMPOSSIBLE SORT OF TO DO, THAT EVEN MY OWN PERSONAL STORY SAYS WE CAN DO THE IMPOSSIBLE.
AND I ALSO KNOW HISTORY, IN WHICH THE IMPOSSIBLE HAS HAPPENED TIME AND AGAIN, SO WHY CAN'T IT HAPPEN AGAIN?
>> Braude: YOU KNOW, WE -- THOSE OF US WHO ARE PAYING EVEN SOME ATTENTION HAVE FOCUSED ON A RACIAL INJUSTICE IN THE ECONOMY AND POLICING, IN HEALTH CARE AND SO MANY AREAS -- CAN WE SPEND A MINUTE ON HEALTH CARE.
A RECENT PIECE YOU WROTE IN THE "ATLANTIC" ABOUT THE CORONAVIRUS, AS YOU SAID, PEOPLE OF COLOR HAVE BEEN ON THE LOSING END OF EVERY PART OF THAT, FROM CASES TO DEATH TO VACCINATIONS.
YOU WROTE: "TO ADDRESS RACIAL HEALTH DISPARITIES, WE NEED DATA EQUALITY AND PARITY.
PARITY."
AND YOU GO ON TO SAY "EQUAL IS NOT ALWAYS EQUITABLE."
CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT?
>> Doctor: SHOULD.
WHAT WE DID RIGHT WAS WE RECOGNIZED AS A NATION THAT ELDERLY PEOPLE WERE DYING AT THE HIGHEST RATES, WHEN COMPARED TO MIDDLE-AGED AND YOUNGER PEOPLE FROM COVID-19.
SO WE WERE, LIKE, THEY'RE THE MOST VULNERABLE TO DEATH, SO LET'S ENSURE THAT THEY RECEIVE THE VACCINE FIRST.
THAT IS EQUITY.
EQUALITY WOULD HAVE BEEN, LET'S SEND IT OUT TO 20-YEAR-OLDS AS THE SAME RATE WE'RE SENDING IT OUT TO 80-YEAR-OLDS.
ALL I WAS STATING IS THAT WE SHOULD ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT BLACK PEOPLE, INDIGENOUS PEOPLE HAVE DIED AT THE HIGHEST RATES FROM COVID-19, SO WHY COULDN'T WE ALSO PROVIDE THE VACCINE FOR THOSE GROUPS FIRST, TOO.
THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN EQUITY.
THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN PROVIDING THE VACCINE FOR THE GROUPS WHO HAVE THE GREATEST NEED VERSUS SENDING IT OUT TO EVERYONE EQUAL, EVEN THOUGH -- AND WHAT THAT RESULTED IN IS WHAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW, IN WHICH BLACK PEOPLE HAVE BEEN THE MOST LIKELY TO DIE FROM COVID-19, AND THEY'RE THE LEAST LIKELY TO BE VACCINATED.
>> Braude: YOU KNOW -- STAYING IN HEALTH CARE FOR A SECOND, YOU MENTIONED A MINUTE AGO YOUR SURVIVAL OF CANCER.
I'M WONDERING IF WHEN YOU WERE IN THE HOSPITAL YOU WERE THINKING ABOUT ONE OF THE MOST, TO ME, SHOCKING SURVEYS I'VE SEEN FROM 2016 OR 2017, WHERE WHITE RESIDENTS AND INTERNS, MEDICAL STUDENTS, WERE BEING SURVEYED, AND OVERWHELMING NUMBERS OF THEM WHEN ASKED ABOUT BLACK PATIENTS SAID THEIR SKIN WAS THICKER, THEY WERE MORE TOLERANT OF PAIN AND ON AND ON.
THESE STEREOTYPICAL, GROTESQUE MISCONCEPTIONS.
HOW DO WE ESCAPE THAT?
>> Doctor: SO WE HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT THE NEED TO ENSURE THAT POLICE OFFICERS WHO HAVE THE POWER TO HARM AND KILL PEOPLE ARE NOT SORT OF RIDDLED WITH RACIST IDEAS.
AND OBVIOUSLY OTHERS HAVE MADE THE CASE THAT, NO, WE NEED TO COMPLETELY REIMAGINE POLICING.
WHAT WE HAVEN'T SPOKEN ABOUT AS MUCH IS HOW MEDICAL PROVIDERS ALSO HAVE THE POWER TO HARM AND KILL PEOPLE.
AND SO MEDICAL PROVIDERS, IN THEIR EDUCATION -- MOST OF THEM TRAIN FOR 12 YEARS.
AND SOME OF THEM CAN TRAIN FOR A DOZEN YEARS, 10 YEARS, AND NOT SYSTEMATICALLY -- AND COME OUT OF THAT THINKING THERE IS BLACK BLOOD AND WHITE BLOOD AND THERE IS DIFFERENT GENETIC MAKEUPS OR PEOPLE NEED TO BE TREATED SORT OF DIFFERENTLY.
>> Braude: YOU KNOW, I AM ONE OF MANY MEETING YOU FOR THE FIRST TIME, WHO ADMIRERS YOUR WORK.
YOU ARE AT THE CENTER OF AN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT UNIVERSE.
AND SO WHILE I'M SURE YOU SEE IT AS A COLOSSAL OPPORTUNITY, DO YOU FEEL IMMENSE PRESSURE TO GET IT RIGHT WHEN SO MANY PEOPLE ARE HANGING ON SO MANY OF YOUR WORDS AND THOUGHTS?
>> Doctor: I DO.
I DO SORT OF FEEL THE PRESSURE, BUT I ALSO FEEL THE SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY, IN WHICH, I THINK THAT PART OF THE REASON WHY I'M DOING SO MANY DIFFERENT SORT OF THINGS RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, IS BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE I'VE BEEN GIVEN, YOU KNOW, HANDED AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY SPEAK ABOUT THE PROBLEM IS RACISM AND NOT PEOPLE.
AND I WANT TO SORT OF USE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE MY PEOPLE AND TO MOVE THIS NATION, YOU KNOW, INTO A DIFFERENT PLACE.
>> Braude: YOU KNOW, AS A GUY WHO HAD A COUPLE LITTLE GIRLS MAYBE 20 YEARS AGO -- THEY'RE GROWN NOW -- FLYING YOUR KID AROUND THE ROOM IS A GREAT STRESS REDUCER, IF YOU HAVEN'T FIGURED THAT OUT ALREADY.
BEFORE YOU GO, KIVI USED TO PLAY FOR THE CELTICS, AND HE IS COMING BACK HOME TO BOSTON IN THE PLAYOFFS.
HE IS QUOTED YESTERDAY AS SAYING HE HOPES THERE ISN'T RACISM, INTIMATING THAT HE EXPERIENCED THAT A LOT WHEN HE WAS HERE.
THAT COMES YEARS AFTER A SURVEY THAT WAS JUST SO DISSPIRITING, WHEN BLACK AMERICANS WERE ASKED TO RATE EIGHT TOWNS AND CITIES IN THIS COUNTRY AS TO THEIR WELCOMING NATURE.
THE LEAST WELCOMING TOWN OR CITY IN A LANDSLIDE IS BOSTON.
YOU CHOSE TO MOVE HERE, LOCATE YOUR CENTER HERE.
HAVE YOU EXPERIENCED THE BOSTON THEY DESCRIBE?
OR KNOW, NO, DR. KENDI?
>> SO I'VE LIVED ALL UP AND DOWN THE EAST COAST, FROM TALLAHASSEE TO GROWING UP IN NEW YORK CITY, TO GOING TO GRADUATE SCHOOL IN PHILADELPHIA, TO NOW LIVING IN BOSTON, AND I ACTUALLY HAVE YET TO LIVE IN A CITY THAT DID NOT HAVE RACIAL DISPARITIES AND INEQUITIES.
I HAVE YET TO LIVE IN A CITY WHERE THERE WASN'T THIS BELIEF THAT THE BLACK SIDE OF TOWN WAS THE DANGEROUS SIDE OF TOWN.
I HAVE YET TO LIVE IN A CITY WHERE THAT BLACK TOWN WAS -- I SHOULD SAY NEIGHBORHOOD -- WAS NOT STARVED OF RESOURCES.
SO IT IS CERTAINLY THE CASE IN BOSTON.
BUT WHAT I ALSO KNOW ABOUT SORT OF BOSTON, AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I CHOSE TO COME TO BOSTON, IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A SORT OF -- MY MEMORY OF BOSTON REALLY EXTENDS BACK TO THE 19th CENTURY, AND THIS WAS A TOWN, THIS WAS A PLACE, WHERE PEOPLE WERE CONSIDERED CRAZY FOR DREAMING AND IMAGINING THAT WE CAN ABOLISH SLAVERY.
FROM MARIAH TO CHARLES SUMNER TO OTHERS.
AND SO I AM SPECIFICALLY DRAWN TO THAT SAYS SPECT OFAS SPEBILITYASPECT OFTHE CITY.
AT ONE POINT IT WAS THE CRADLE OF ANTI-SLAVERY.
WHY CAN'T WE BECOME THE CRADLE OF ANTI-RACISM?
ESPECIALLY WHEN PEOPLE DO NOT THINK THAT THAT IS POSSIBLE.
>> Braude: IBRAM X. KENDI, WE ARE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE YOU HERE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
>> Doctor: THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
>> Braude: THE ANNIVERSARY OF GEORGE FLOYD'S MURDER IS ALSO A TIME TO CONSIDER THE ANXIETY FELT BY YOUNG PEOPLE OF COLOR, CAUGHT BETWEEN FEELINGS OF POSSIBILITY AND HOPELESSNESS.
ONE LOCAL GROUP THAT HAS LONG WORKED TO EMPOWER YOUTH IS HELPING THEM FIND THEIR VOICE THROUGH A DIFFERENT FORM OF ACTIVISM: FILM.
LIZ NEISLOSS HAS MORE.
♪♪ >> Reporter: "SENSELESS SMOKE," A FILM CREATED BY ROXBURY-BASED "TEEN EMPOWERMENT" IS ABOUT A YOUNG MAN WHO GETS CLOSE TO HIS BROTHER'S KILLER.
>> WHAT HAPPENED TO TONY?
>> LISTEN, I ALREADY TOLD YOU, I'M NOT WITH THAT NO MORE.
>> Reporter: AND AT A TIME OF DEMANDS FOR POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY AND GREATER RESOURCES FOR COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, THIS FILM PUTS THE BURDEN OF FINDING PEACE AND RESOLVING CONFLICT ON COMMUNITY MEMBERS THEMSELVES.
"TEEN EMPOWERMENT'S" EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, ABRIGAL FORRESTER, HOPES THIS FILM HELPS START A CONVERSATION.
>> BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, AS PARENTS, AS A COMMUNITY, AS YOUNG PEOPLE, WE NEED TO TAKE OWNERSHIP FOR THE VIOLENCE THAT'S TAKING PLACE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
WE NEED TO START TALKING ABOUT THE IMPACT THAT WE'RE HAVING ON EACH OTHER BY NOT RESOLVING CONFLICT IN THE RIGHT WAY.
>> Reporter: CARRIE MAYS, WHO'S JUST 20, PLAYS AN ELDER IN THE COMMUNITY, PLEADING WITH YOUTH TO SEE A PATTERN, TO END THE SENSELESS VIOLENCE THAT GOES FROM ONE GENERATION TO THE NEXT.
>> SEE, I HEARD "SENSELESS," SHOOT TONY.
>> IF WE COULD JUST GET THIS COMMUNITY TO HEAL SO WE DON'T JUST KEEP THE PERPETUAL CYCLE OF PAIN GOING -- 'CAUSE HURT PEOPLE, HURT PEOPLE -- THEN I THINK THAT WE CAN GET TO A BETTER PLACE.
>> AND...ROLLING!
>> THIS STORY IS A STORY THAT MANY PEOPLE IN BOSTON WILL RESONATE WITH, BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN DORCHESTER, ROXBURY, MATTAPAN, AND HYDE PARK HAVE LOST THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS, OR HAVE LOST SOMEBODY, TO GUN VIOLENCE.
>> Reporter: BUT FOR THIS GENERATION, THERE'S ALSO A NEW URGENCY IN COPING WITH TRAUMA.
SOCIAL MEDIA HAS MADE IMAGES OF POLICE BRUTALITY AND RACIAL VIOLENCE INESCAPABLE.
IT'S AN INSPIRATION TO ACTIVISM AND A SOURCE OF ANXIETY AND DESPAIR.
>> WHAT'S CHANGED NOW IS THAT THERE'S SO MUCH MORE ACCESS TO INFORMATION THAT ALSO CREATES A LEVEL OF FRUSTRATION FOR THE UNEVOLVED, YOU KNOW, EMOTIONAL YOUNG PERSON, RIGHT?
WE DIDN'T HAVE INSTAGRAM; WE DIDN'T HAVE Facebook; WE DIDN'T HAVE SOCIAL MEDIA.
NOW THESE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE BEING BOMBARDED.
THEY'RE FEELING LIKE DEATH IS ON BOTH ENDS.
>> Reporter: 22-YEAR-OLD TOMO SINGH PRODUCED INSTRUMENTALS FOR THE FILM.
>> A LOT OF THE THINGS ARE THE SAME, EXCEPT IT'S SO BLATENT NOW BECAUSE WE'RE ABLE TO SEE EVERYTHING ON OUR PHONES AND IN FRONT OF OUR SCREENS.
IT'S, LIKE, CONSTANTLY ONGOING.
>> THAT'S ALL HE NEEDED, WAS THE MOTIVATION.
>> Reporter: THE YOUTH SAY THE FILM GAVE THEM AGENCY TO PROCESS THEIR OWN EMOTIONS AND GIVE VOICE TO SOLUTIONS.
>> IMAGINE IF EVERYONE ON "L" STREET CAME TOGETHER.
GET THE LIFE THAT WE DESERVE.
>> Reporter: THE AIM IS HIGH.
>> I'M HOPING THAT THIS MOVIE IS GOING TO CHANGE LIVES AND CHANGE THE HEARTS AND THE MINDS OF THE PEOPLE OF BOSTON, BEFORE WE MOVE INTO THE SUMMERTIME, TO REDUCE THE VIOLENCE SO THAT WE CAN PREVENT VIOLENCE WHEN IT COMES TO THE SUMMERTIME.
>> Reporter: BUT THE MESSAGE OF "SENSELESS SMOKE" IS CLEAR.
>> AIN'T NOBODY GONNA DO IT FOR US BUT US.
>> Braude: FOR MORE INFORMATION, YOU CAN GO TO teenempowerment.org.
>> Braude: FOR ME, LOOKING BACK ON 2020, IT WAS MORE THE IMAGES THAN THE WORDS THAT HAVE BEEN BURNT INTO MY BRAIN.
PHOTOGRAPHS THAT CAPTURE THE RELENTLESS, UNIMAGINABLE PAIN AND OCCASIONAL JOY OF THIS PAST YEAR.
THANKFULLY, THERE ARE PLENTY OF GREAT ONES TO CHOOSE FROM.
THE BOSTON PRESS PHOTOGRAPHERS' ASSOCIATION PICKED OUT THE BEST, NOW ON DISPLAY IN THEIR FIRST-EVER OUTDOOR EXHIBIT, SPONSORED IN PART BY GBH.
IT'S NOW IN COPLEY SQUARE AND WILL MOVE TO JUSTICE GOURDIN PARK IN NUBIAN SQUARE NEXT MONTH.
I'M JOINED NOW BY TWO OF THE FEATURED PHOTOGRAPHERS, JESSICA RINALDI OF THE "BOSTON GLOBE," WHO WAS NAMED PHOTOGRAPHER OF THE YEAR, AND BRIAN SNYDER OF REUTERS, WHO WON BEST IN SHOW.
>> Braude: BRIAN, JESSICA, CONGRATULATIONS TO BOTH OF YOU, AND WELCOME.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> Braude: JESSICA, WAS 2020 THE HARDEST YEAR FOR YOU TO DO WHAT YOU DO FOR A LIVING?
>> YES, 100%.
>> Braude: WHY?
>> I CAN'T IMAGINE A HARDER TIME TO GO OUT BECAUSE WE WERE REALLY FEARFUL EVERY DAY, FOR OUR SAFETY, FOUR OUR FOR OUR HEALTH, FOR THE SAFETY OF THE SUBJECTS WE WERE COMING CONTACT WITH, FORCE OUR FAMILIES.
IT WAS SCARY TIME, BUT IT WAS THE BIGGEST STORY THAT HAS EVER HAPPENED IN MY LIFETIME HERE.
>> Braude: BRIAN, WHEN HALF OF PEOPLE'S FACES ARE OFTEN MISSING, WHAT DO YOU LOSE AS A PHOTOGRAPHER?
>> IT CERTAINLY MADE IT MORE CHALLENGING.
I DON'T THINK WE REALIZED HOW MUCH WE RELIED ON THE BOTTOM HALF OF PEOPLE'S FACES TO COMMUNICATE EMOTION UNTIL WE NO LONGER HAD IT AS AN OPTION.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THE CLICHE IS ALWAYS ABOUT WHAT YOU CAN SEE IN PEOPLE'S EYES, AND THAT REMAINED TRUE.
>> Braude: YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT DIDN'T CHANGE THIS YEAR, BRIAN, IS COVERING GRIEF AND PAIN.
THERE WAS JUST SO MUCH MORE OF IT.
DID IT FEEL ALMOST INAPPROPRIATE TO CAPTURE AND CELEBRATE JOY AND YOUR WORK?
>> NO.
NO.
I THINK -- I MEAN, ISN'T THAT PART OF THE DEFINITION OF RESILL RESILIENCE?
PART OF THE DEFINITION OF GETTING THROUGH IT?
I THINK IT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE NOT TO INCLUDE IT, IN PROPORTION, BUT TO NOT INCLUDE IT WOULD NOT BE PORTRAYING HOW PEOPLE GET THROUGH DAY TO DAY.
>> Braude: JESSICA, DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT?
>> I DO.
I THINK THAT A BIG PART OF WHAT WE DO IS TRY TO CAPTURE OUR SHARED HUMANITY, AND THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT LEVELS TO THAT AND LAYERS TO THAT.
AND I THINK THAT WHILE THIS WAS A VERY TOUGH YEAR, THERE WERE MOMENTS OF JOY, AND WE CAN'T PASS THAT BY, EITHER.
>> Braude: LET'S LOOK AT SOME OF YOUR AWARD-WINNING WORK.
BRIAN, I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU A COUPLE OF THINGS YOU DID, AND GIVE ME A REFLECTION OR DESCRIPTION.
WE'LL START WITH ONE WHERE THERE WAS A FACE OR TWO TOTALLY UNCOVERED WHILE OTHERS AROUND HER WERE COVERED.
HERE IT IS.
WHERE WAS THIS FROM?
>> THIS WAS FROM A PROTEST THAT STARTED IN FRANKLIN PARK AND MOVED -- THERE IS A POLICE STATION NEARBY, AND THIS WAS OUTSIDE.
IT WAS GETTING DARK, AND THIS WAS ON THE SORT OF THE BLURRY PART IN THE FOREGROUND, THERE ARE THE HELMENTS OFHELMETS OF POLICE SORTLY DIVIDINGSORT OFDIVIDING PEOPLE.
>> Braude: LET'S LOOK AT A QUIETER PICTURE, CAPTURING PEOPLE INSIDE AND OUTSIDE.
TELL US ABOUT THAT.
>> ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THE PROTEST WAS -- PART OF THE POINT OF PROTESTING IS TO GET ATTENTION, TO GET OTHER PEOPLE TO LOOK.
SO IF YOU CAN SHOW THAT IN YOUR PICTURE, THAT'S A BIG PART OF THE POINT OF THE WHOLE EVENT.
WHAT DO OTHER PEOPLE REACTING DOING?
WHAT ARE THEY SEEING?
>> Braude: AND, THIRD, TWO PEOPLE IN THE MEDICAL PROFESSION.
THIS ONE IS REALLY POWERFUL, I THINK.
WHERE ARE THEY?
>> SO THIS IS OUTSIDE OF BRIGHAM WOMEN'S.
WHAT IS INTERESTING,I THINK, ABOUT THIS IS IT BRINGS TWO OF THE BIGGEST STORIES LAST YEAR TOGETHER.
THESE ARE NURSES THAT WORK IN A HOSPITAL.
THEY'RE TREATING COVID PATIENTS, BUT THEY'RE OUT PROTESTING FOR RACIAL JUSTICE.
SO IT SORT OF COMBINED -- THAT'S TWO OF THE BIGGEST STORIES COMING TOGETHER.
>> Braude: JESSICA, LET'S TURN TO YOU FOR A SECOND.
AND LET'S START WITH A PRETTY JARRING PHOTO, I THINK PEOPLE WILL AGREE, PREPARING WORKERS MOVING A COFFIN AND WE CAN SEE SOMEONE LYING IN A COFFIN IN THE FOREGROUND.
>> THIS WAS SUCH A DIFFICULT THING TO HAVE TO PHOTOGRAPH, BUT IT FELT VERY IMPORTANT TO SHOW HOW OVERWHELMED THESE FUNERAL HOME WORKERS WERE.
THEY HAVE NEVER ENCOUNTERED ANYTHING LIKE THIS.
IN NORMAL TIMES THEY WOULD DO MAYBE A DOZEN FUNERALS A MONTH.
IN APRIL LAST YEAR, THEY DID 71.
SO THEY WERE JUST OVERFLOWING IN THE ROOM THEY WERE IN.
THAT NORMALLY WOULD BE A TRIBUTE ROOM, AND IT WAS FULL OF CASKETS.
I FELT LIKE IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO SHOW THAT, TO MAKE IT REAL FOR PEOPLE THAT THE LOSS WAS REALLY VERY MUCH HAPPENING.
>> Braude: WELL, THE SECOND PHOTOGRAPH MAKES IT REAL, TOO.
THERE IS ONLY ONE CASKET IN THIS PHOTOGRAPH, BUT YOU NOT ONLY CAPTURE THE DESTRUCTION THAT THIS YEAR BROUGHT BUT ALSO HOW PEOPLE HAD TO OBSERVE THE DEATH OF SOMEONE THEY LOVED.
>> YEAH.
I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, NOBODY WANTS TO BE THE PERSON WHO TURNS UP TO A FUNERAL HOME WITH A CAMERA, RIGHT?
BUT, AGAIN, IT JUST FELT, LIKE, REALLY IMPORTANT TO SHOW WHAT THESE FAMILIES WERE GOING THROUGH.
THIS LOSS WAS REALLY VERY REAL FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.
AND THEY WERE TOO AFRAID TO COME AND GRIEVE, FOR MANY OF THEM TO LEAVE THE HOUSE.
SO THEY WERE VERY SMALL SERVICES AND JUST A HANDFUL OF FAMILY MEMBERS THERE.
YOU COULD HEAR A PIN DROP.
>> Braude: AND, THIRDLY, NO PHYSICAL DISTANCING IN THIS ONE.
WHERE WAS THIS TAKEN?
>> THIS WAS A BLACK LIVES MATTER PROTEST.
THIS WAS ON THE BOSTON COMMON.
I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO GO OUT THERE AND TO DOCUMENT THIS BECAUSE LOOK AT ALL THESE PEOPLE TAKING A STAND, BREATHING THE PANDEMIC, PUTTING THEIR HEALTH AT RISK TO GO AND FIGHT RACIAL INJUSTICE.
IT WAS A VERY POWERFUL THING TO SEE.
>> Braude: JESSICA, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU LEARNED AS A PHOTOGRAPHER THIS YEAR THAT WILL CHANGE THE WAY YOU DO YOUR WORK POST-PANDEMIC?
>> I THINK I LEARNED THAT I'M TOUGHER THAN I THOUGHT I WAS.
BUT I ALSO THINK THAT I LEARNED THAT PEOPLE ARE REALLY VERY RESILIENT AND WE'RE ADAPT TABLE,ABLE, AND EVEN IN THE HARDEST OF TIME, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO SHARE THEIR STORIES WITH US.
I WILL TAKE THAT WITH ME, JUST THE GRATEFULNESS OF THAT.
>> Braude: BRIAN, HOW ABOUT YOU?
>> YEAH.
A RENEWED FAITH IN THE PEOPLE THAT WE GO OUT AND THEY TELL THEIR STORIES.
THE WAY THEY WELCOMED US AND OPENED THEMSELVES UP, IT WAS REMARKABLE.
AND THE, YOU KNOW, NEWFOUND FAITH IN OUR PROFESSION.
EVERYONE'S WHO'S WORK IS OUT THERE, ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES, WE HAVE FRIENDS WHO DIED.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, NEWFOUND FAITH IN THE PHOTO JOURNALISTS AND JOURNALISTS.
>> Braude: LET ME TELL YOU, YOU BOTH CAPTURE THE YEAR AS PERFECTLY AS ANY TWO I HAVE SEEN.
I CONGRATULATE YOU ON YOUR WORK AND THANK YOU FOR SPENDING A LITTLE BIT OF TIME WITH ME.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> Braude: AND FINALLY TONIGHT, REMEMBERING A FEW OF THE LIVES BEHIND THE CORONAVIRUS DEATH TOLL, WITH THE HELP OF THE "FACES OF COVID" TWITTER ACCIDENT.
LIKE 82-YEAR-OLD FLORENCE ASHE OF CHARLTON.
SHE WAS AN AVID READER, LOVED VACATIONING ON CAPE COD, AND LOVED THE OCEAN.
SHE WAS A VERY SOCIAL PERSON, SO MUCH SO HER FAMILY NICKNAMED HER "JUDY FRIENDLY."
AND GENNARO "PAPA" AGRILLO OF WEST BROOKFIELD.
HE WAS ALWAYS DRESSED, REGARDLESS OF THE OCCASION.
HE LOVED HIS LOCAL MARSHALLS.
HE DROVE HIS GRANDCHILDREN, AND LATER HIS GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN, TO AND FROM SCHOOL.
IF YOU LOST SOMEONE YOU LOVE TO THE PANDEMIC AND WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THEIR STORY, PLEASE VISIT Twitter.com/faces of Covid.
THAT'S IT FOR TONIGHT, BUT STICK AROUND FOR A GBH SPECIAL PRESENTATION, IN CONJUNCTION WITH "THE BOSTON GLOBE" AND NAACP BOSTON: "THE STATE OF RACE."
HOST DAN LOTHIAN AND HIS PANELISTS EXAMINE VOTER SUPPRESSION TACTICS, NEXT.
PLUS, TUNE IN ONLINE TOMORROW FOR A VIRTUAL DISCUSSION ON "THE ROAD AHEAD," EXAMINING WHERE THE COUNTRY STANDS AND WHERE IT'S HEADED IN THE FIGHT FOR RACIAL JUSTICE.
FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ALL THAT, VISIT gbh.org/the state of race.
THANKS FOR WATCHING, AND PLEASE STAY SAFE.

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