>>> TONIGHT ON "CAPITOL JOURNAL," ALABAMA'S PRIMARY ELECTIONS ARE OVER.

WE'LL RUN DOWN WHAT HAPPENED AND WHAT'S NEXT.

A RUNOFF IS TAKING SHAPE IN ALABAMA'S HEATED RACE FOR THE U.S. SENATE.

HEAR WHAT KATIE BRITT AND MO BROOKS HAD TO SAY.

SEVERAL STATE SENATE AND HOUSE SEATS CHANGED HANDS.

WE'LL REVIEW THE NOTABLE RACES.

STATE SENATOR CLAY SCOFIELD WILL JOIN US TO TALK ABOUT ISSUES AND THE RESPONSE TO THE DEADLY SCHOOL SHOOTING IN TEXAS.

AND JIM PURCELL DISCUSSES RANGE OF EDUCATION ISSUES INCLUDING THE TEACHER SHORTAGE.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE ON "CAPITOL JOURNAL."

FROM OUR STATE HOUSE STUDIO IN MONTGOMERY, I'M TODD STACY.

WELCOME TO "CAPITOL JOURNAL."

AFTER MONTHS OF SPIRITED AND DOWNRIGHT BRUTAL CAMPAIGNING, ALABAMA'S PRIMARY ELECTIONS ARE IN THE BOOKS.

THE REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATIC PRIMARIES WERE HELD TUESDAY AND UNOFFICIAL RESULTS FROM THE SECRETARY OF STATE SHOW WHO WON, WHO LOST AND WHO IS HEADED TO A RUNOFF.

UNDER ALABAMA ELECTION LAW, CANDIDATES MUST EARN A MAJORITY OF VOTES TO WIN THE ELECTION.

IF NO CANDIDATE GETS ABOVE 50% THE ELECTION GOES TO A RUNOFF BETWEEN THE TOP TWO VOTER EARNERS.

GOVERNOR KAY IVEY WILL NOT NEED A RUNOFF IN HER BID FOR REELECTION.

SHE WON THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY WITH MORE THAN 55% OF THE VOTE, BEATING BACK SEVERAL CHALLENGERS.

IVEY'S WIN CAME AFTER HER MAIN RIVALS IN TIM JAMES AND LINDY BLANCHARD SPENT MILLIONS ATTACKING THE GOVERNOR OVER THE AIRWAVES.

IN A VICTORY SPEECH TUESDAY NIGHT, IVEY WAS AT TIMES EMOTIONAL AS SHE THANKED HER SUPPORTERS.

>> Y'ALL, WE DID IT!

[CHEERING AND APPLAUSE] I SIMPLY CANNOT TELL YOU HOW PROUD I AM TO BE HERE WITH Y'ALL TONIGHT TO CELEBRATE THIS HARD-FOUGHT VICTORY.

WITH ALL MY HEART, I THANK YOU.

I THANK YOU WITH ALL OF MY SOUL.

Y'ALL HAVE BEEN GREAT SUPPORTERS AND I'M SO PROUD TO BE YOUR GOVERNOR.

WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW JOBS.

WE HAVE CREATED 65,000 AND STILL COUNTING.

WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE RECRUITING GOOD BUSINESSES TO OUR STATE.

WE HAVE SEEN OVER 32 BILLION, WITH A B, DOLLARS IN NEW BUSINESS INVESTMENTS.

WE HAVE THE LOWEST UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IN THE HISTORY OF OUR STATE AND FOR THE PAST 18 CONSECUTIVE MONTHS, WE HAVE HAD THE LOWEST UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IN THE ENTIRE SOUTHEAST.

THANK YOU ALL SO, SO MUCH.

AND MAY GOD CONTINUE TO BLESS EACH OF YOU AND THE GREAT STATE OF ALABAMA.

[CHEERING AND APPLAUSE] >> SOMETHING INTERESTING TO NOTE: IN 1966 LURLEEN WALLACE BEAT BACK NINE CHALLENGERS TO WIN HER PRIMARY FOR GOVERNOR OUTRIGHT.

IVEY DEFEATED EIGHT CHALLENGERS IN HER PRIMARY TUESDAY.

>> ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE, THERE WILL BE A RUNOFF TO DETERMINE WHO GETS THE NOMINATION FOR GOVERNOR.

YOLANDA FLOWERS AND MALIKA SANDERS FORTIER WILL FACE EACH OTHER ON THE BALLOT ON JUNE 21.

ALABAMA'S INTENSE THREE WAY REPUBLICAN RACE FOR THE U.S. SENATE IS NOW DOWN TO TWO.

KATIE BRITT WON 45% OF THE VOTE TUESDAY, WHILE MO BROOKS WON 29%.

THAT WAS ENOUGH TO EARN BOTH OF THEM A SPOT IN THE RUNOFF OVER MIKE DURANT WHO WON 23% OF THE VOTE.

BOTH BRITT AND BROOKS GAVE FIERY SPEECHES AS THE RESULTS CAME IN, PORTENDING A HEATED BATTLE IN RUNOFF.

>> IT'S CLEAR TONIGHT THAT ALABAMIANS WANT NEW BLOOD.

[CHEERING AND APPLAUSE] THEY WANT SOMEONE TO GO TO WASHINGTON, D.C. AND SHAKE IT UP.

[CHEERING AND APPLAUSE] IT'S CLEAR THEY WANT A TRUE CHRISTIAN, CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN WHO BELIEVES IN THE AMERICA-FIRST AGENDA AND DOESN'T JUST TALK ABOUT IT BUT KNOWS HOW TO ACTUALLY GET SOMETHING DONE.

[CHEERING AND APPLAUSE] WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT, THIS PUBLIC SCHOOL GIRL WOULD BE STANDING UP HERE LEADING IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE RACE?

[CHEERING AND APPLAUSE] Y'ALL, IF THAT IS NOT THE AMERICAN DREAM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS.

IT SHOW I DON'T SEE I THAT THE AMERICAN DREAM IS ALIVE IN THE STATE OF ALABAMA.

WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THIS NATION, WE DON'T RECOGNIZE IT ANYMORE.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE THE LIBERAL LEFT THAT TRIES TO STRIP THAT UNDERNEATH US.

FOLKS, I HAVE SAID ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

RIGHT?

SAY IT WITH ME.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

WE LIVE IN THE GREATEST NATION ON THIS GLOBE, EVEN ON OUR WORST DAY, AND I WANT OUR CHILDREN TO BE TAUGHT TO STAND FOR THE FLAG AND TO LOVE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AM I RIGHT?

[CHEERING AND APPLAUSE] >> THIS SENATE RUNOFF IS A BATTLE FOR THE SOUL OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, A BATTLE TO ADVANCE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

IT IS MITCH McCONNELL'S KATIE BRITT, VERSUS RAND PAUL AND AMERICA FIRST MAGA CANDIDATE MO BROOKS.

THE WASHINGTON SWAMP MUST BE STRONG.

YOU CAN NOT BUY, OR BEQUEATH ALABAMA SENATE SEAT.

IT IS OURS.

ALABAMIANS WANT TO DECIDE WHICH CANDIDATE BEST REPRESENTS OUR GOD-FEARING CONSERVATIVE VALUES.

I HAVE NEVER FEARED FOR AMERICA'S FUTURE LIKE I TODAY.

AMORAL, DICTATORIAL SOCIALISTS ON THE MARCH AND THEY ARE WINNING.

THEY ARE WINNING.

ALABAMA NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO GAMBLE AMERICA'S FUTURE ON YET ANOTHER UNPROVEN SURRENDER CAUCUS, RHINO CANDIDATE IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE.

I HAVE WORKED WITH THE UNITED STATES SENATE.

SENATOR RAND PAUL WORKS IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE.

SENATOR TED CRUZ WORKS IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE AND I CAN ASSURE YOU, WE ALREADY HAVE TOO MANY WEAK KNEED RHINOS IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE, WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER.

>> AGAIN, THAT RUNOFF IS SCHEDULED FOR JUNE 21.

>> ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE, WILL BOYD WON HIS PRIMARY OUTRIGHT OVER BRAUNDAN DEAN AND LARRY JACKSON AND WILL REPRESENT THE PARTY ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT.

MOVING DOWN THE BALLOT, ATTORNEY GENERAL STEVE MARSHALL EASILY DEFEATED HARRY STILL, III AND WILL FACE DEMOCRAT WENDELL MAJOR IN NOVEMBER.

GREG COOK DEFEATED DEBORAH JONES IN THE TWO WAY RACE FOR ALABAMA SUPREME COURT.

COOK WON 55% OF THE VOTE TO JONES 45%.

HE WILL FACE DEMOCRAT ANITA KELLEY IN NOVEMBER.

THERE WILL BE A RUNOFF IN THE REPUBLICAN RACE FOR SECRETARY OF STATE.

CURRENT STATE AUDITOR JIM ZEIGLER WILL FACE STATE REPRESENTATIVE WES ALLEN.

ZEIGLER WON 43% OF THE VOTE TO ALLEN'S 40%.

THE WINNER WILL FACE DEMOCRAT PAMELA LEFITTE IN NOVEMBER.

THERE WILL ALSO BE A RUNOFF FOR STATE AUDITOR BETWEEN REPUBLICANS STAN COOKE AND ANDREW SORREL.

SORRELL WON 39% OF THE VOTE TO COOKE'S 33%.

THERE IS NO DEMOCRAT RUNNING.

THERE WILL BE RUNOFFS IN BOTH PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION RACES.

FOR PLACE ONE, INCUMBENT JEREMY ODEN GOT 34% OF THE VOTE AND WILL FACE JOHN HAMMOCK WHO GOT 31%.

THERE IS NO DEMOCRAT RUNNING.

FOR PLACE TWO, INCUMBENT CHIP BEEKER GOT 43% OF THE VOTE TO ROBERT MCCOLLUM'S 36% SO THEY WILL GO TO A RUNOFF.

NO DEMOCRAT IS ON THE BALLOT IN THIS RACE AS WELL.

AND FINALLY A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT THAT WAS ON THE BALLOT PASSED EASILY.

THE AMENDMENT ALLOWS THE ALABAMA DEPARTMENT OF CONSERVATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES TO BORROW $80 MILLION TO IMPROVE STATE PARKS.

ACCORDING TO COMMISSIONER CHRIS BLANKENSHIP, THE MONEY WILL BE USED TO MODERNIZE THE CAMPGROUNDS, ADD LARGER CABINS AT CERTAIN LOCATIONS AND UPGRADING WATER AND SEWER CONNECTIONS.

THE AMENDMENT PASSED WITH 77% OF THE VOTE.

>> ALSO ON THE BALLOT THIS YEAR ARE EACH SEAT IN THE ALABAMA LEGISLATURE.

MANY INCUMBENTS WENT UNCHALLENGED, BUT THERE WERE SOME INTERESTING AND COMPETITIVE RACES.

WE'LL START IN THE HOUSE, WERE SEVERAL INCUMBENTS WERE DEFEATED BY PRIMARY CHALLENGERS.

IN HOUSE DISTRICT 88 PRATTVILLE CITY COUNCIL PRESIDENT JERRY STARNES DEFEATED INCUMBENT WILL DISMUKES WINNING 62% OF THE VOTE.

DISMUKES, OF COURSE, RECEIVED CRITICISM FOR ATTENDING A BIRTHDAY CELEBRATION OF A FORMER KU KLUX KLAN LEADER AND IS CURRENTLY FACING THEFT CHARGES.

IN JACKSON COUNTY'S HOUSE DISTRICT 23, INCUMBENT TOMMY HANES WAS NARROWLY DEFEATED MY MIKE KIRKLAND.

IN HOUSE DISTRICT 7, EARNIE YARBROUGH DEFEATED FIRST-TERM INCUMBENT PRONCEY ROBERTSON OF MOUNT HOPE.

IN HOUSE DISTRICT 28, FORMER STATE REPRESENTATIVE MACK BUTLER, EDGED OUT INCUMBENT GIL ISBELL WITH 51.2% OF THE VOTE.

HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME VOTING IRREGULARITIES IN THIS RACE THAT WE'LL GET TO IN A BIT.

IN HOUSE DISTRICT 45, SUSAN DUBOSE DEFEATED INCUMBENT DICKIE DRAKE OF LEEDS.

IN HOUSE DISTRICT 72, 17-YEAR INCUMBENT RALPH HOWARD OF GREENSBORO LOST TO CHALLENGER CURTIS TRAVIS.

IN HOUSE DISTRICT 94 IN BALDWIN COUNTY, LONG-TIME INCUMBENT JOE FAUST WAS DEFEATED BY CHALLENGER JENNIFER FIDLER, WHO RECEIVED 63% OF THE VOTE.

SOME HOUSE RACES ARE GOING TO RUNOFFS.

IN NORTH ALABAMA'S HOUSE DISTRICT 4, INCUMBENT PARKER MOORE WILL FACE PATRICK JOHNSON IN A RUNOFF.

THEY WON 43 AND 36 PERCENT OF THE VOTE, RESPECTIVELY.

IN HOUSE DISTRICT 14, TWO-TERM INCUMBENT TIM WADSWORTH OF ARLEY WILL FACE TOM FREDRICKS IN A RUNOFF.

THEY HAD ABOUT 47% AND 36% OF THE VOTE.

IN HOUSE DISTRICT 55 IN JEFFERSON COUNTY, INCUMBENT ROD SCOTT APPEARS RUNOFF BOUND WITH FRED PLUMP, BUT A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THOSE JEFFERSON COUNTY VOTES STILL AREN'T REPORTED.

IN SOUTHERN JEFFERSON COUNTY'S HOUSE DISTRICT 56, THERE WILL BE A RUN-OFF BETWEEN DEMOCRATS ONTARIO TILLMAN AND TERESHIA THERE WERE SEVERAL OPEN SETS ON THE BALLOT TUESDAY DUE TO RETIREMENTS OR OTHER VACANCIES.

IN NORTH ALABAMA'S HOUSE DISTRICT 2, CURRENTLY HELD BY THE RETIRING LYNN GREER, REPUBLICANS JASON SPENCER BLACK AND KIMBERLY BUTLER WILL GO TO A RUNOFF.

BLACK IS A FORMER LIMESTONE COUNTY COMMISSIONER.

BUTLER OWNS A PHOTOGRAPHY BUSINESS IN FLORENCE.

IN WALKER COUNTY'S HOUSE DISTRICT 13, VACATED LAST YEAR BY CONNIE ROWE, REPUBLICAN MATT WOODS SNAGGED THE WIN AGAINST COMPETITORS GREG BARNES, KEITH DAVIS, CHRISTOPHER DOZIER AND CHARLES WAITS.

IN HOUSE DISTRICT 20 IN MADISON COUNTY, REPUBLICAN JAMES LOMAX WON 44% OF THE VOTE AND WILL FACE FRANCES TAYLOR WHO WON 26%.

IN HOUSE DISTRICT 29, WHICH INCLUDES PORTIONS OF ETOWAH AND CALHOUN COUNTIES, REPUBLICANS MARK GIDLEY AND JAMIE GRANT FOUGHT A TIGHT BATTLE.

THE LATEST RESULTS SHOW GIDLEY ON TOP WITH 50.52% OF VOTES.

AGAIN, THE CALHOUN COUNTY VOTE IS IN DISPUTE.

IN HOUSE DISTRICT 64 IN CENTRAL BALDWIN COUNTY, REPUBLICAN DONNA GIVENS EDGED OUT ANGELO JACOB FERMO WITH JUST 51.67% OF THE VOTE.

AND IN HOUSE DISTRICT 54 IN BIRMINGHAM, INCUMBENT NEIL RAFFERTY HELD ONTO HIS SEAT AGAINST PROGRESSIVE ACTIVIST BRIT BLALOCK AND FORMER BIRMINGHAM SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER EDWARD MADDOX.

WE SHOULD NOTE IN THOSE RACES INVOLVING CALHOUN COUNTY THAT THERE WERE SOME IRREGULARITIES WITH THE ELECTIONS TUESDAY.

ACCORDING TO COUNTY AND STATE OFFICIALS THERE WAS A MIX-UP THAT MIGHT HAVE CAUSED SOME PRIMARY VOTERS TO GET BALLOTS FOR THE WRONG LEGISLATIVE DISTRICTS.

THE PROBLEM AFFECTED DISTRICTS 28 AND 29, BOTH OF WHICH WERE VERY CLOSE RACES.

SECRETARY OF STATE JOHN MERRILL SAID THAT CORRECTIVE ACTIONS WILL BE TAKEN AND THAT MORE INFORMATION WOULD BE AVAILABLE NEXT WEEK WHEN THE ELECTION IS SCHEDULE TO BE CERTIFIED.

NOW TO THE SENATE, WHERE THERE WERE SOME KEY RACES INVOLVING INCUMBENTS AND OPEN SEATS.

IN MADISON COUNTY'S SENATE DISTRICT 2, INCUMBENT TOM BUTLER HELD OFF A CHALLENGE FROM THE MAN WHO PRECEDED HIM, FORMER STATE SENATOR BILL HOLTZCLAW.

IN SENATE DISTRICT 11, WHICH INCLUDES PARTS OF ST. CLAIR, TALLADEGA AND SHELBY COUNTIES, REPUBLICAN LANCE BELL RECEIVED 73% OF VOTE OVER MICHAEL WRIGHT.

IN SENATE DISTRICT 12, WHICH INCLUDES CALHOUN COUNTY AND PART OF TALLADEGA COUNTY, REPUBLICANS KEITH KELLEY AND WENDY DRAPER WILL GO TO A RUNOFF.

DRAPER WON 39% TO KELLEY'S 35%.

IN SENATE DISTRICT 19, CURRENT STATE REPRESENTATIVE MERIKA COLEMAN APPEARS TO HAVE EASILY DEFEATED HER FELLOW HOUSE MEMBER LOUISE ALEXANDER WITH MORE THAN 73% OF THE VOTE.

BUT AGAIN, MUCH OF THE JEFFERSON COUNTY VOTE IS STILL NOT REPORTED.

IN SENATE DISTRICT 23, FORMER SENATOR HANK SANDERS WILL FACE SELMA NATIVE ROBERT STEWART IN A RUNOFF IN HIS BID TO WIN BACK HIS OLD SEAT.

SANDERS RECEIVED 44% OF THE VOTE AND STEWART RECEIVED 30%.

AND FINALLY A RAZOR THIN ELECTION IN SENATE DISTRICT 27, WHERE THREE-TERM INCUMBENT SENATOR TOM WHATLEY IS DOWN BY JUST FOUR VOTES TO CHALLENGER JAY HOVEY.

THERE ARE 87 PROVISIONAL BALLOTS TO BE REVIEWED, 67 OF WHICH ARE FROM LEE COUNTY, WHICH HOVEY CARRIED HANDILY.

CANDIDATES CAN ASK FOR A RECOUNT IF THEY PAY FOR IT.

OTHER STATE SENATE INCUMBENTS WHO FENDED OFF PRIMARY CHALLENGERS ON TUESDAY INCLUDED: TIM MELSON OF FLORENCE; RANDY PRICE OF OPELIKA; DAN ROBERTS OF MOUNTAIN BROOK; SHAY SHELNUTT OF TRUSSVILLE; LINDA COLEMAN-MADISON OF BIRMINGHAM; GREG ALBRITTON OF RANGE; AND BILLY BEASLEY OF CLAYTON.

AND THAT WAS YOUR ELECTION.

WHILE THIS YEAR'S PRIMARIES FEATURED MANY NEW CANDIDATES, THERE WAS ONE CANDIDATE WHOSE NAME IS NO STRANGER TO THE BALLOT.

TIM JAMES HAS NOW RUN THREE TIMES FOR GOVERNOR AND THREE TIMES COME UP SHORT OF MAKING A REPUBLICAN RUNOFF.

"CAPITOL JOURNAL'S" RANDY SCOTT CAUGHT UP WITH THE SON OF A FORMER GOVERNOR WHO STRUCK OUT TUESDAY YET AGAIN.

>> WE ARE EXCITED IN THE SENSE WE ARE IN THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME WITH THE RIGHT MESSAGE.

>> TIM JAMES HOPES THE THIRD TIME IS A CHALLENGE.

HE IS IN THE RACE FOR THE ALABAMA GOVERNOR'S OFFICE AND HE HAS AN AGENDA.

>> MENTAL HEALTH IS A NUMBER ONE ISSUE, EDUCATION IS ESSENTIAL, I-20 IS A MECCA OF HUMAN TRAFFIC THROUGH BIRMINGHAM.

WE ONLY HAVE 450 TROOPERS ON THE ROAD AND WE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE 900.

WE HAVE TO GET MONEY WHERE IT SHOULD GO AND QUIT SPENDING MONEY ON STUFF THAT DOESN'T MEANS NOTHING.

>> JAMES IS ATTEMPTING TO FOLLOW HIS FATHER'S FOOTSTEPS, 44 YEARS AGO HE WAS ELECTED GOVERNOR OF ALABAMA.

>> MY DAD, I LOVE HIM VERY MUCH AND VERY PROUD OF MY FATHER.

HE WAS ELECTED EXACTLY 44 YEARS AGO, 22 TIMES TWO.

BUT I HAVE TO PAVE MY OWN WAY, AS YOU KNOW.

MY DAD IS 87 YEARS OLD.

HE IS WELL AND WATCHING THE RACE FROM A DISTANCE.

>> JAMES AND HIS SUPPORTERS STARTED TO WATCH NUMBERS FROM HIS BASE IN MONTGOMERY BUT THIS NIGHT THE NUMBERS WOULD GO TO GOVERNOR IVEY.

>> I CALLED THE GOVERNOR TEN MINUTES AGO AND WISHED HER THE VERY BEST, CONGRATULATED HER ON THIS RACE.

SHE DID A GREAT JOB.

>> JAMES TELLS REPORTERS, HE IS DISAPPOINTED WITH THE RESULTS BUT IT IS HIS FAMILY THAT MAKES HIM A WINNER THIS NIGHT.

>> I'M SO BLESSED.

I HAVE A BEAUTIFUL FAMILY, BEAUTIFUL CHILDREN AND GRAND BABIES AND I'VE GOT MORE BLESSINGS THAN I CAN COUNT.

WE JUST WANT WHAT IS BEST FOR THE STATE OF ALABAMA AND WHAT IS BEST FOR THIS GOVERNOR GOING FORWARD.

>> YOU SAID THE THIRD TIME MIGHT BE A CHARM TONIGHT.

IS THE FOURTH TIME A CHARM?

>> THAT I DOUBT.

THREE TIMES IS ENOUGH.

>> FOR "CAPITOL JOURNAL," I'M RANDY SCOTT.

>> WELL, IT'S MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND, WHICH IS A KICK OFF TO THE SUMMER FOR KIDS AND PARENTS.

THAT MEANS TRIPS TO SPLASH PARKS AND POOLS.

CITY AND STATE OFFICIALS ARE SHARING TIPS ON HOW TO PREVENT INJURIES AND ILLNESS IN THE SUMMER FUN.

"CAPITOL JOURNAL'S" KAREN GOLDSMITH HAS THAT STORY.

>> PARENTS LOVE SPLASH PADS BECAUSE THE WATER IS NOT DEEP AND IT'S A SAFER WATER ALTERNATIVE FOR SMALL KIDS AND KIDS LOVE SPLASH.

>> THE PROBLEM IS THE JETS, KIDS LIKE TO SIT DOWN ON THEM.

IF YOU HAVE EVER BEEN AT THE SPLASH PAD THEY ARE SITTING ON THE JETS BECAUSE THE WATER CAN SPLASH THEIR REAR END.

IT CAN CAUSE PEE AND POOP TO GO IN THE SYSTEM.

>> THE WATER AT SOME PADS GOES AWAY TO THE SEWER AND NEVER USED AGAIN BUT -- >> OTHER SPLASH PADS RECIRCULATE THAT WATER.

WHEN IT RECIRCULATES THAT WATER, THE CHLORINE, THE DISINFECTANT HAS TO WORK OVERTIME IN ORDER TO CLEAR THAT OR BREAK IT DOWN WHICH MAY MEAN THE CHLORINE ISN'T AS EFFECTIVE AS IT COULD AGAINST THE GERMS AND KILL THOSE GERMS.

>> SHE RECOMMENDS TAKING A SHOWER BEFORE GOING INTO THE WATER.

DON'T GO IF YOU ARE SICK.

DON'T DRINK THE WATER AND TAKE KIDS ON REGULAR BATHROOM BREAKS.

>> MAKE SURE YOU ARE CHANGING THEIR DIAPERS.

YOU HAVE PEOPLE USING THE SWIM DIAPERS, BUT THEY ARE NOT MANUFACTURED TO PREVENT LEAKAGES.

YOU HAVE TO CHANGE THOSE REGULARLY.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, DON'T PEE AND POOP IN THE WATER.

THAT SHOULD BE SELF EXPLANATORY BUT YOU HAVE SMALL KIDS.

THEY DON'T KNOW WHEN TO STOP.

>> WHEN IT COMES TO POOLS, DO NOT HORSE PLAY AND DO NOT RUN ARE COMMON RULES BUT THE CITY OF MONTGOMERY ALSO HAS RULES REGARDING POOL TOYS.

>> THEY CAN BRING FLOTATION DEVICES THAT ARE COAST GUARD APPROVED LIFE JACKETS, BUT THEY CAN'T BRING FLOATS THAT MAY OBSTRUCT THE LIFEGUARD'S VISION OF THE REST OF THE POOL.

>> A PARENT MAY THINK IT IS SAFE BUT IF IT IS NOT COAST GUARD APPROVED IT WILL NOT SAVE THE CHILD'S LIFE AND GIVE THEM A FALSE SENSE OF WHAT THEY ARE DOING IN THE POOL.

WE ALLOW COAST GUARD APPROVED SAFETY DEVICES BUT NOT FLOATS OR ARM WINGS OR THINGS.

IT'S WAY TOO EASY FOR A CHILD THAT HAS ARM WINGS TO PUT THEIR HANDS UP AND THEY GO SLIDING OFF THEIR HANDS.

>> TO SWIM IN THE DEEP END.

>> WE REQUIRE A SWIM TEST FOR PEOPLE TO GO IN THE DEEP END.

A -- IN ORDER TO GO ABOVE THEIR HEAD THEY HAVE TO SHOW US THEY CAN TREAD WATER FOR A MINUTE AND SWIM 25 YARDS WITHOUT STOPPING ON THE TOP OF THE WATER AND GET OUT OF THE POOL BY THEMSELVES.

>> ALL CITY MANAGED POOLS HAVE TWO TO FOUR LIFEGUARDS.

FOR "CAPITOL JOURNAL" I'M KAREN GOLDSMITH.

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>> NEXT, I'M JOINED BY SENATOR CLAY SCOFIELD FROM GUNTERSVILLE, THE MAJORITY LEADER FOR THE ALABAMA SENATE.

THANK YOU FOR COMING ON "CAPITOL JOURNAL."

>> ALWAYS GOOD TO BE ON WITH YOU, TODD.

>> BIG WEEK ON ELECTIONS.

WE HAVE ANTICIPATED THIS PRIMARY ELECTION FOR REALLY THE LAST YEAR AND IT DIDN'T DISAPPOINT.

A LOT OF INTERESTING RESULTS FROM THE GOVERNOR, THE SENATE RACE, ALL THE CONSTITUTIONAL RACES AND EVEN SOME LEGISLATIVE RACES.

WHAT WERE YOUR BIG TAKEAWAYS?

>> THE BIGGEST, OBVIOUSLY, IS THESE WERE PRETTY NASTY RACINGS.

THE ADS AND -- WITH ESPECIALLY THE GOVERNOR, THE RESULTS THAT WE SAW WITH HER WINNING OUTRIGHT WITHOUT A RUNOFF AGAINST, WHAT WERE THERE, EIGHT OPPONENTS, MY BIGGEST TAKEAWAY WAS THAT THE PEOPLE OF ALABAMA CHOSE RESULTS OVER RHETORIC.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ALABAMIANS OUGHT TO BE PROUD OF.

I KNOW I AM.

I THINK THERE WAS DEFINITELY REBUKE ABOUT A LOT OF THAT NEGATIVITY.

THEY WERE SAYING THINGS ABOUT THE GOVERNOR THAT SIMPLY WERE NOT REMOTELY TRUE, IF YOU WATCHED ANY OF THAT.

I THINK THE PUBLIC PUSHED BACK ON THAT.

LOOK, FOLKS, FOLKS CAN DO THEIR OWN RESEARCH AND FOLKS HAVE SEEN THE GAINS THAT WE HAVE ENJOYED IN ALABAMA UNDER GOVERNOR IVEY'S LEADERSHIP AND UNDER OUR LEGISLATIVE LEADERSHIP.

WITH THE LOWEST UNEMPLOYMENT IN THE STATE'S HISTORY RIGHT NOW.

I MEAN, PEOPLE ARE WORKING DESPITE THE OTHER CHALLENGES THAT COME FROM THE ADMINISTRATION.

ALABAMA IS GROWING.

OUR ECONOMY IS GROWING.

WE'RE MAKING UNPRECEDENTED INVESTMENTS IN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT HELPS CONTINUE GROWTH.

I THINK THE PEOPLE OF ALABAMA HAVE SEEN THAT AND SPOKE LOUD AND CLEAR AT THE POLLS THAT THEY SUPPORT THAT.

>> WELL, YEAH.

LET ME FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

YOU ARE RIGHT.

THERE ARE ALWAYS NEGATIVE CAMPAIGN ADS AND IT HAPPENS EVERY YEAR.

THIS YEAR DID SEEM ESPECIALLY NASTY.

THEY WEREN'T JUST ATTACK ADS, THEY WERE REALLY PERSONAL, REALLY NASTY IN SOME CASES AND ESPECIALLY IN THE GOVERNOR'S RACE.

LET ME ASK YOU -- I THINK WE COUNTED UP WHERE THEY SPENT ALL TOLD $25 MILLION, ABOUT 9 MILLION OF THAT WAS KAY IVEY BUT SHE WAS DEFENDING HERSELF AND HAVING POSITIVE ADS.

THE OTHER TWO, LINDY BLANCHARD AND TIM JAMES, THE MAJORITY OF THEIR ADS ATTACKED THE GOVERNOR.

WELL, THEY WEREN'T SUCCESSFUL.

MY QUESTION IS, DO YOU THINK THE LACK OF SUCCESS THERE WOULD BE MAYBE A DETERRENT IN THE FUTURE FOR CANDIDATES TO GO THAT LOW WITH NEGATIVE ADS?

>> I WOULD CERTAINLY HOPE SO.

THE PROBLEM IF THEY WEREN'T EFFECTIVE PEOPLE WOULDN'T DO IT.

I'D HOPE THEY BECOME LESS EFFECTIVE.

FOR ME, PERSONALLY AS A VOTER, TELL ME, AS A CANDIDATE, WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.

OR IF YOU ARE A CURRENT ELECTED OFFICIAL WHAT YOUR RECORD IS, AND ALSO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IN THE FUTURE.

I DON'T WANT TO HEAR YOU TALK ABOUT YOUR OPPONENT.

TELL ME ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO.

THAT IS WHAT MATTERS TO ME AS A VOTER.

FRANKLY, I THINK THAT MOST VOTERS AGREE WITH THAT.

I REALLY -- I HOPE THAT -- CERTAINLY, WE MAY, SURE, CONTINUE TO SEE SOME NEGATIVE ADS BUT THAT TYPE OF REALLY LOW PERSONAL TYPE ATTACKS, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT SIMPLY ARE NOT TRUE, I HOPE THIS SENDS A MESSAGE THAT THAT'S NOT THE WAY TO DO IT.

THAT'S NOT THE WAY TO WIN AN ELECTION AND FRANKLY YOU ARE NOT GOING TO WIN AN ELECTION IF YOU ENGAGE IN THAT TYPE OF ADVERTISING.

>> THERE WERE SEVERAL KEY LEGISLATIVE RACES AND OPEN SEATS AND COMPETITIVE SEATS AND COMPETITIVE PRIMARIES.

WE CAN'T GO COMPLETELY DOWN THE LIST BUT THE LEGISLATURE WILL LOOK A LOT DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF NEW FACES IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE.

HOW DOES THAT WORK FOR YOU AS THE MAJORITY LEADER?

HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE MAKEUP IS SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT NEXT SESSION?

>> WELL, INSTITUTIONS ARE GREATER THAN MEN.

I WILL ADD WOMEN.

THAT'S ONE THING THAT I LOVE AND RESPECT ABOUT THE ALABAMA STATE SENATE WHETHER WE ARE THERE OR NOT, THAT INSTITUTION REMAINS.

SO, WE WILL WORK WITH WHOEVER IS IN ANY OF THE 35 SENATE SEATS.

I'M SURE THE HOUSE WILL DO THE SAME.

YOU KNOW, WE WILL HAVE SEVERAL NEW FACES.

WE HAD FIVE OPEN SENATE SEATS, THREE REPUBLICAN AND TWO DEMOCRAT.

OBVIOUSLY THERE WILL BE FIVE NEW MEMBERS THERE.

WE HAVE ONE INCUMBENT THAT WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL NEXT WEEK ON THE RESULT OF THAT.

FRANKLY, WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF CHALLENGES TO OUR INCUMBENTS ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE.

I THINK THAT IS A TESTAMENT TO THE QUALITY OF OUR MEMBERS.

WE HAVE REALLY GREAT MEMBERS THAT WORK VERY HARD FOR THE DISTRICTS, AND I THINK THE WORK PRODUCT THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET PASSED OUT OF THE SENATE AND THE LEGISLATURE AS A WHOLE HAS BEEN POSITIVE.

OUR LACK OF RACES MOST CERTAINLY REFLECT THAT.

IT WILL LOOK DIFFERENT, BUT WE WILL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE GOOD RESULTS TO HELP MOVE ALABAMA FORWARD.

>> WE MIGHT NOT BE FINISHED WITH THIS LEGISLATURE.

THERE'S TALK OF A SPECIAL SESSION TO DEAL WITH ARPA.

OF COURSE, YOU HAD THE FIRST ROUND OF ARPA FUNDS THAT YOU DEALT WITH PARTIALLY IN THE LAST ESSENTIAL SESSION AND PARTIALLY IN THE REGULAR.

I GUESS THE SPECIAL SESSION WITHIN THE REGULAR IN JANUARY.

THAT WAS THE FIRST ROUND.

THERE'S A SECOND ROUND OF ARPA COMING SOMETIME THIS SUMMER AND THERE'S BEEN TALK OF MAYBE AUGUST, SEPTEMBER, BEING A SPECIAL SESSION TO DEAL WITH THAT.

WHAT'S THE TALK THERE?

ARE YOU ALL IN TALKS WITH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE OF KIND OF TIMING IT OUT?

>> LET ME BEGIN BY SAYING, ONE OF THE STRENGTHS THAT GOVERNOR IVEY HAS AND FRANKLY THE LEGISLATURE HAS IS WE DO WORK VERY WELL TOGETHER.

OBVIOUSLY, THAT DECISION WILL BE UP TO THE GOVERNOR ON WHEN -- IF AND WHEN WE DO HAVE A SPECIAL SESSION.

SO, WE COORDINATED TOGETHER IN THE FIRST ROUND OF ARPA IN DISCUSSIONS ON HOW BEST TO INVEST THE MONEY.

OBVIOUSLY, THIS ROUND WILL NOT BE ANY DIFFERENT.

SO, YEAH, AFTER THESE ELECTIONS ARE OVER, THEN WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET BACK TO THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND -- I DON'T THINK YOU WILL SEE ANYTHING DIFFERENT AS FAR AS THE WAY WE APPROPRIATE THE MONEY.

>> I WAS GOING TO ASK WHAT PRODUCTS -- WE KNOW WE DID BROADBAND AND WATER AND SEWER, SOME OTHER THINGS BUT THOSE WERE THE BIG ONES.

WHAT IN ARPA TWO MIGHT WE EXPECT?

>> I THINK MORE OF THE SAME, PARTICULARLY ON BROADBAND AND WATER AND SEWER.

THE MOST IMPORTANT THING -- THE WORD I MENTIONED EARLIER IS NOT SPENDING BUT INVESTING THIS MONEY.

THAT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

BECAUSE IT BEING ONE-TIME MONEY, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE INVEST THAT MONEY IN STRATEGIC AREAS THAT WILL HELP TO MOVE OUR STATE FORWARD.

OUR KIDS WILL BE ON THE HOOK FOR THIS MONEY FOR A LONG TIME.

WE WANT TO BE THE BEST STEWARDS OF IT THAT WE CAN.

I THINK YOU'LL SEE MORE OF THE SAME AS FAR AS HOW WE LOOK TO APPROPRIATE THAT MONEY WITH AN EYE TOWARD INVESTMENT.

>> WITH INFLATION LIKE IT IS, MAYBE THE MONEY DOESN'T GO AS FAR AS WE THOUGHT IN TERMS OF BUYING MATERIALS, FIBER OPTICS, PIPE.

>> AND YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE WORD OF THE YEAR, SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES, LABOR ISSUES, AS WELL.

YOU KNOW, FIBER WITH BROADBAND HAS BEEN ABOUT A YEAR OUT ON BEING ABLE TO ORDER THAT AND GET IT FOR A LOT OF OUR COMPANIES.

LUCKILY, A LOT OF THEM ANTICIPATED IT AND ALREADY STOCKPILED BUT OBVIOUSLY, WHETHER IT BE BROADBAND OR, YOU KNOW, WATER, SEWER PIPES AND DRAINS, WHAT HAVE YOU, THE LABOR TO ACTUALLY INSTALL THAT AND KEEP IN MIND THIS HAS TO BE BY 2026.

SO IT'S -- THERE'S SOME SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES FROM SUPPLY CHAIN TO LABOR THAT WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF AND ARE.

>> LET'S SWITCH GEARS AND TALK ABOUT THESE SHOOTINGS AND SPECIFICALLY HOW THE STATE MIGHT ADDRESS PUBLIC POLICY.

WE JUST HEARD THIS WEEK ABOUT THIS HORRIFIC SHOOTING AT AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

18 KIDS SHOT, A TEACHER.

THAT'S ON THE HEELS OF THE BUFFALO SUPERMARKET SHOOTING.

IT'S TRAGIC BUT IT BEGS THE QUESTION HOW SHOULD PUBLIC POLICY BE CHANGED OR ALTERED TO ADDRESS THIS?

THERE'S TALK ABOUT GUNS AND HOW THE SECOND AMENDMENT APPLIES, BUT FROM A STATE PERSPECTIVE, WHAT CAN BE DONE?

DO WE HAVE THE BACKGROUND CHECKS WE NEED IN PLACE FOR GUN PURCHASES?

DO WE HAVE THE RED FLAG LAWS IN TERMS OF THOSE WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES?

WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO THESE THINGS?

>> OBVIOUSLY, IT IS ABSOLUTELY UNSPEAKABLE WHAT HAPPENED IN TEXAS AND BUFFALO.

ABSOLUTELY HORRENDOUS.

OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS ARE WITH THE FAMILIES AND PARENTS WHO HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS TRAGEDY.

A COUPLE OF THINGS COME TO MIND, TODD, AS, OBVIOUSLY SCHOOL SAFETY IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

WE NEED TO LOOK AND MAKE SURE WE ARE FUNDING THAT APPROPRIATELY WITH OUR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS.

I THINK, OBVIOUSLY WITH THE SENTINEL PROGRAM THAT THE GOVERNOR SIGNED INTO EXECUTIVE ORDER SOME YEARS AGO, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE -- TAKE A LOOK AT THAT GET UPDATES ON THAT AND MAKE SURE OUR SCHOOLS ARE SECURE.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR SCHOOL CHILDREN KNOW THEY ARE SAFE, PARENTS KNOW THEIR SAFE WHEN THEY DROP THEIR CHILD OFF AT SCHOOL AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE RESOURCES TO SECURE THEIR SCHOOLS AND SAFETY OFFICERS THERE ON EACH CAMPUS.

I THINK ALSO OUR MENTAL HEALTH.

WE ARE MAKING VERY SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS IN OUR MENTAL HEALTH FACILITIES IN ALABAMA.

WE ARE INVESTING SIGNIFICANT DOLLARS IN THESE REGIONAL FACILITIES AND GETTING THEM UP AND GOING, AND I THINK THAT ALABAMA WILL CONTINUE TO FUND MENTAL HEALTH IN SIGNIFICANT WAYS AND CHANGE THE WAY THAT WE DELIVER THOSE SERVICES TO THOSE WHO NEED IT.

SO, I THINK THOSE TWO AREAS THAT WE NEED TO TAKE A LONG, HARD LOOK AT AND MAKE SURE OUR SCHOOLS ARE SAFE AND WE ARE PROVIDING FOR OUR MENTAL HEALTH.

>> I REMEMBER THE LAST SESSION THE LEGISLATURE ADDRESSED THE COMMITMENT PROCESS, STREAMLINING IT.

IT WAS WES ALLEN'S BILL, GETTING THE JUDGE'S INVOLVED AND GIVING THEM MORE FLEXIBILITY, WHICH ULTIMATELY IS A MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE BUT ALSO A LAW ENFORCEMENT ISSUE IN TERMS OF DANGER.

DO YOU THINK IN LIGHT OF THESE TRAGEDIES, THE LEGISLATURE MIGHT ADDRESS OR LOOK AT ALTERING RED FLAG LAWS THAT DEAL WITH MENTAL HEALTH BUT ALSO PUBLIC SAFETY IN TERMS OF WHO CAN PURCHASE A FIREARM?

>> THAT, I DON'T KNOW.

I'M SURE THERE WILL BE LEGISLATION INTRODUCED THAT DOES THAT.

I THINK WE HAVE HAD SOME OF THAT LEGISLATION IN THE PAST.

THERE'S BEEN TALKS ABOUT IT.

I WOULD IMAGINE, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE WILL PROBABLY INTRODUCE THAT, BE UP FOR DEBATE AS WOULD ANYTHING AND WE WILL LOOK AT IT AND SEE.

CERTAINLY -- OBVIOUSLY, REPRESENTATIVE ALLEN'S BILL, ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT TO ASSIST WITH OUR MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES AND CAPABILITIES WILL CONTINUE TO BE A PRIORITY FOR US.

>> LOTS OF ISSUES TO DISCUSS.

REALLY APPRECIATE YOU COMING ON "CAPITOL JOURNAL" TO WALK US THROUGH IT.

ONCE AGAIN, CLAY SCOFIELD, MAJORITY LEADER OF THE ALABAMA SENATE.

>> THANK YOU, TODD.

APPRECIATE IT.

>> WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

>> YOU ARE WATCHING ALABAMA PUBLIC TELEVISION.

>> NEXT I'M JOINED BY JIM PURCELL, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE ALABAMA COMMISSION ON HIGHER EDUCATION.

JIM, THANK YOU FOR COMING ON THE SHOW.

>> GLAD TO BE HERE.

>> CAN YOU TELL OUR AUDIENCE MORE ABOUT YOUR ORGANIZATION AND WHAT IT DOES FOR THE STATE.

>> THE ALABAMA COMMISSION ON HIGHER EDUCATION COORDINATES THE WORK BETWEEN ALL OF THE CAMPUSES, BOTH THE TWO AND FOUR YEAR.

WE PROPOSE BUDGETS, MAKE RECOMMENDATION AND HANDLE SOME OF THE FINANCIAL AID THAT THE STATE PROVIDES LOW-INCOME STUDENTS.

>> THERE ARE SO MANY COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES AROUND ALABAMA AND THEY ARE THEIR OWN ENTITIES.

IT SEEMS IT WOULD BE A CHALLENGE TO COORDINATE SO MANY INDEPENDENT ENTITIES.

>> EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN THING THEY DO AND THEY SORT OF ADVOCATE FOR THAT AND THAT'S WHY THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMEBODY THAT CAN COORDINATE AND GIVE GUIDANCE TO THE LEGISLATURE AND THE GOVERNOR ABOUT WHAT THE NEEDS REALLY ARE.

>> YOU MENTIONED THE BUDGET PROCESS, ARE YOU INVOLVED WITH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE AND A CONDUIT BETWEEN HIGHER EDUCATION COMMUNITY AND BUDGET WRITERS IN THE STATEHOUSE AND ACROSS THE STREET?

>> YES.

BOTH RECEIVE WHAT WE CALL A CONSOLIDATED BUDGET.

THAT IS ALL OF THE INSTITUTIONS LET US KNOW WHAT THEY NEED AND ADVOCATE FOR.

WE HAVE HEARINGS WITH INSTITUTIONS AND THEN MAKE A UNIFIED BUDGET RECOMMENDATION.

I WILL SAY IN THIS STATE, THAT'S SORT OF THE BEGINNING.

OUR BUDGET IS THE STARTING POINT AND THE CAMPUSES, IF THEY HAVE A PARTICULAR EXTRA INTEREST IN SOMETHING THEY WILL ADVOCATE BEYOND US.

WE ARE SOMETIMES CONSIDERED THE BASE OF WHAT THAT CONVERSATION ENDS UP IN THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS.

>> I REMEMBER JUST GOING BACK TO SOME OF MY FIRST DAYS IN THE STATEHOUSE.

BACK THEN, COLLEGES WERE SUPER COMPETITIVE IN THE BUDGET PROCESS.

THEY WOULD HIRE DIFFERENT LOBBYING FIRMS AND COMPETE WITH EACH OTHER FOR THAT PIE, THEIR SLICE OF THE PIE.

IS IT STILL LIKE THAT, OR IS THERE MORE WORKING TOGETHER THESE DAYS.

>> IT IS A MIX.

WE CERTAINLY HAVE COMMON INTERESTS, INCREASING THE BUDGET, TRYING TO GET BACK TO 2008 LEVELS WAS AN ISSUE WE WORKED TOGETHER ON BUT WE HAVE SPECIAL INTERESTS.

WE HAVE A NEW BUILDING WE WANT TO HAVE, MATCHING FUNDS.

WE HAVE A NEW PROGRAM THAT WE THINK THE ECONOMY NEEDS.

ALL WILL BE ADVOCATING ON THEIR OWN WITHIN THE SYSTEM AS A PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS.

>> HOW WOULD YOU SAY COLLEGE AND UNIVERSITIES ARE FUNDED IN ALABAMA IN GENERAL?

MEANING, IS OUR FUNDING LEVELS GENERALLY HEALTHY COMPARED TO OTHER STATES OR WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE?

>> WE ARE FUNDED WELL.

WE ARE PROBABLY NOT EXACTLY AT THE NATIONAL AVERAGE BUT PRETTY CLOSE.

THE THING IS WE HAVE REALLY HIGH TUITION AND IT HELPS US BE OVERFUNDED.

OUR TUITION IS PROBABLY 200% HIGHER THAN THE NATIONAL AVERAGE.

THAT WAS DONE BECAUSE IN THIS STATE THE DECISION OF WHO DECIDES TUITION IS LEFT TO THE TRUSTEES AND THE INSTITUTIONS AND SO DURING THE GREAT RECESSION THERE WAS REALLY A DECISION AT THE BASE LEVEL TO KEEP TUITION HIGH.

>> WELL, THAT'S INTERESTING.

LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THAT.

I KNOW OTHER STATES, LIKE TAKE GEORGIA, HAS A BOARD OF GOVERNORS THAT THEY CONTROL -- YOU CAN'T RAISE TUITION WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THEM.

HAS THAT CONVERSATION EVER BEEN IN ALABAMA OF HAVING A BOARD OF GOVERNORS OR SOMETHING THAT HAS A STATEWIDE REACH IN TERMS OF KEEPING TUITION UNDER CONTROL?

>> I THINK IT WILL BE DIFFERENT IN DIFFERENT STATES.

IN ALABAMA, AUBURN AND ALABAMA SYSTEM ARE BASICALLY IN THE STATE CONSTITUTION.

THE REST OF US ARE ELSEWHERE.

THE WHOLE DECISION ON HOW YOU DO THAT -- BECAUSE YOU CAN'T ASK AUBURN AND ALABAMA TO SAY YOU WILL LIMIT TUITION.

I HAVE RECOMMENDED TO LEGISLATORS ALONG THE WAY THAT PERHAPS YOU COULD PUT IN THE BUDGET PROCESS THAT WE WILL AGREE TO THIS BUDGET IF TUITION IS AT A CERTAIN NUMBER BUT IT WILL BE A LEGISLATIVE BUDGET ITEM DECISION ON HOW THEY DEMARCATE HOW THEY CAN SPEND THEIR MONEY.

>> DO YOU ALL HAVE THIS DISCUSSION?

I SEE IT AS AN INHIBITOR TO LOW AND MIDDLE INCOME KIDS AS IT GETS HIGHER.

>> WE CERTAINLY HAVE THAT EVERY YEAR.

WE HAVE A MEETING WHERE THAT'S ALL WE TALK ABOUT IS HOW SUPPORT WE ARE.

WE GET GREAT SUPPORT FROM THE STATE AND TALK ABOUT THE HIGH PRICE OF TUITION.

THE COMMUNITY COLLEGES ARE A BARGAIN AND THEY HAVE BEEN GOOD ABOUT MAINTAINING A GOOD TUITION RATE.

BUT THE UNIVERSITIES, AS A WHOLE, HAVE BASICALLY -- REALLY DIDN'T DO ANY REDUCTIONS LIKE OTHER STATES HAD TO DO DURING THE RECESSION BECAUSE THEY HAD THE ABILITY TO WRITE THEIR OWN CHECK.

>> ONE WAY TO COMBAT THAT IS FEDERAL STUDENT AID.

THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR THE FAFSA APPLICATIONS WERE REQUIRED FOR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS.

WE SAW AN UPTICK IN THAT, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YES.

WE ARE ACTUALLY AHEAD.

MORE STUDENTS FILLED IT OUT THIS YEAR THAN ANYTIME BEFORE.

CLOSE TO 60% HAVE FILLED OUT THE FAFSA THAT WENT TO PUBLIC SCHOOLS, 55% COUNTING PRIVATE WANE HAVE MADE GREAT PROGRESS.

WE RANKED IN THE MID-20s AS PEOPLE WHO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE FAFSA.

WE ARE IN THE TOP EIGHT RIGHT NOW.

WE DID A 30% INCREASE SINCE LAST YEAR OVER WHAT WE NORMALLY DO IN PARTICIPATION IN THE FAFSA.

THAT WILL MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE FOR PEOPLE GOING TO A COMMUNITY COLLEGE OR UNIVERSITY NEXT YEAR.

>> WASN'T THERE THE THOUGHT THAT WE ARE LEAVING MONEY ON THE TABLE BY NOT APPLYING.

MILLIONS ARE LEFT ON THE TABLE BY PEOPLE NOT FILLING THEM OUT.

>> WE WANTED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE SOLUTION.

THERE WAS A LOT OF WORK AND WE HELPED WITH THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION SO WE CAN IDENTIFY WHICH STUDENTS HAVE AND HAVEN'T FILLED OUT THE PELL AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OR THE CAREER COACHES AND ALSDE WE ALL WORK TOGETHER TO TRY TO HAVE GOOD CONVERSATIONS WITH PARENTS AND STUDENTS ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF GETTING SOME MONEY FOR COLLEGE.

>> IS THAT -- I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS ANY DATA ON THIS, BUT I COULD SEE IT BEING AN INHIBITOR, RIGHT, FOR A STUDENT THINKING COLLEGE ISN'T AN OPTION BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY FOR IT.

NOT CONSIDERING THAT AS AN OPTION WHEN MAYBE THERE ARE SOME FINANCIAL RESOURCES AVAILABLE.

IS THAT PART OF WHY THIS IS SO IMPORTANT?

>> IT IS VERY IMPORTANT.

ONE, A LOT OF THE DATA THAT YOU GET OR THE AID YOU GET FROM A UNIVERSITY IS DEPENDENT ON HAVING A PELL GRANT APPLICATION FILLED OUT.

IT IS USUALLY THE FOUNDATION FOR ALL AID PACKAGES.

IT IS NOT JUST NEED-BASED STUDENTS BUT ANY STUDENT THAT WANTS SUPPLEMENTAL AID THAT IS THE FOUNDATIONAL POINT THAT THE INSTITUTIONS START TO LOOK AT.

>> YOU MENTIONED COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND THERE'S BEEN SUCH AN INCREASED FOCUS IN RECENT YEARS ON WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND RIGHTLY SO FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE, THE LEGISLATURE, FROM THE TWO-YEAR COLLEGES GETTING STUDENTS INTO TRADES AND GETTING THEM INTO TRADE SCHOOLS.

A HUGE INITIATIVE.

MY QUESTION IS -- BECAUSE THAT'S NO DOUBT IMPORTANT BUT HAS IT TAKEN ANYTHING AWAY FROM THE PURSUANT OF ACADEMY EXCELLENCE IN SCHOOLS AND THE PURSUIT OF THE COLLEGE DEGREE, WHICH WE KNOW CAN BE A TICKET IN LIFE?

>> FOR THOSE THAT WENT THROUGH COLLEGE 20, 30 YEARS AGO.

I GRADUATED IN THE '80s, CERTAINLY IT MADE A BIG DIFFERENCE TO HAVE A COLLEGE DEGREE BUT THE WORLD CHANGED.

AUTOMATION KICKED IN, TECHNOLOGY KICKED IN.

ALL OF US THAT GO TO THE WORKPLACE HAVE TO HAVE TECHNICAL SKILLS OR PROFICIENCIES IN SOMETHING.

WE HAVE ENCOURAGED THE COMMUNITY COLLEGES TO IDENTIFY SOME PARTICULARLY SKILLS OF IMPORTANCE IN THE MARKETPLACE AND FOR THE UNIVERSITIES TO GO THAT ROUTE.

WE HAVE ENCOURAGED MICRO CREDENTIALS AND LOOK TO THE NEEDS OF THE STATE.

AND I WILL SAY THE STATE'S ECONOMY HAS GROWN SO MUCH IN ADVANCED MANUFACTURING THAT A LOT OF THE JOBS ARE BACHELOR'S OR MASTERS.

WHEN THE GOVERNOR MADE A TARGET OF 500,000 CREDENTIALED INDIVIDUALS NEEDED THE WORKPLACE, TWO-THIRDS OF THOSE ARE BACHELORS OR HIGHER.

THEY ARE NOT ALL ASSOCIATE DEGREE CERTIFICATES BUT TWO-THIRDS THAT WE NEED ARE ACTUALLY A LOT MORE ORIENTED TOWARD SPECIFIC WORK SKILLS.

WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO COMMUNICATE TO THE COMMUNITIES THEY NEED TO HAVE SOME PROFICIENCY AND SOME SKILL THAT GETS THEM INTO THE PLACE.

THE DATA DOES SHOW IF YOUR FIRST JOB IS OUT OF YOUR MAJOR OR YOU WILL BE UNDER EMPLOYED FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE.

THE SPECIFICITY OF THE SKILL THAT IS MARKETABLE WILL MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE, NOT ONLY IN THEIR LIVES BUT IN THE LIVES OF THEIR CHILDREN AND OUR SOCIETY.

>> THAT'S INTERESTING.

SO, ARE WE SEEING COLLEGES PUT MORE EMPHASIS ON PRACTICAL SKILLS, THINGS THAT CAN -- OPPOSED TO THEORETICAL ONLY?

>> WELL, THERE'S CERTAINLY A PUSH BY MY OFFICE AND OTHERS THAT THAT'S THE CASE.

CERTAINLY THE ALABAMA WORKFORCE COMMISSION HAS COMMUNICATED THAT.

WE DO KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS.

WE BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE ARE PROMOTED BASED ON CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS AND THEIR ABILITY TO WRITE GOOD PARAGRAPHS AND SPEAK WELL.

WE KNOW THERE IS AN IMPORTANT MATTER IN THE CAREER TRACK FOR SOMEBODY THAT HAS A BACHELOR'S DEGREE EDUCATION BUT THE FIRST JOB OUT THERE, THEY ARE HIRED BASED ON WHAT THE BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY NEEDS AND THEY NEED SPECIFIC SKILLS IN THE BEGINNING.

>> LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT AFTER COLLEGE.

IT'S BEEN A PROBLEM FOR MANY YEARS.

THEY CALL IT THE BRAIN DRAIN WHERE OUR GREAT UNIVERSITIES, PROUD UNIVERSITIES, GRADUATE PEOPLE WITH WONDERFUL DEGREES AND THEN GO OUT OF STATE.

THEY GO TO ATLANTA OR NASHVILLE OR DC OR TO NEW YORK.

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE CITIES AND METROS OFFER BETTER JOBS AND CAREERS AND LIVES THEY ARE AFTER.

I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A REAL EFFORT IN RECENT YEARS TO KEEP THOSE FOLKS HERE, KEEP THEM HOME IN ALABAMA.

KEEP THE SKILLED WORKERS PART OF OUR ECONOMY AND GROWING HERE BACK HOME.

HOW HAVE YOU ALL BEEN INVOLVED IN THAT?

>> IT IS A BIG ISSUE.

FORBES MAGAZINE RANKED ALABAMA THIRD WORST IN KEEPING GRADUATES.

WE KEEP 50% AFTER FIVE YEARS.

THE LEGISLATURE FUNDED US WITH MONEY TO TRY TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE.

SOME OF IT IS UNDERSTANDING WHY STUDENTS ARE MAKING THAT DECISION.

WE DID A SURVEY.

ACTUALLY THE FIRST YEAR, AND WE DISCOVERED -- WE ASKED THE SOPHOMORE, JUNIORS AND SENIORS AT OUR UNIVERSITY BECAUSE THIS IS A UNIVERSITY ISSUE, WHY ARE YOU CONSIDERING TO LEAVE?

WE HAD A THIRD THAT SAID WE ARE DEFINITELY LEAVING.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO STAY IN ALABAMA.

ANOTHER THIRD SAID MAYBE AND THEN A THIRD SAID YES.

WE HAVE TWO-THIRDS THAT ISN'T TOTALLY BOUGHT IN ON STAYING AND WE ASKED THEM WHY.

ONE OF THEM WAS, REPUTATION OF THE STATE.

THEY FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE ABOUT THAT.

THE OTHER IS THE RESPECT OF OTHERS, DIVERSITY, RESPECT OF OTHER INDIVIDUALS.

AND THEN THE THIRD WAS THEIR PERCEPTION THAT ALABAMA WOULD NOT PAY WELL, THAT THE SALARIES WOULD BE LOWER IN THIS STATE EVEN THOUGH IT IS A SIMILAR JOB AND THAT IS THE CASE.

SO, THEIR PERCEPTION OF THAT, I THOUGHT WAS MUCH MORE INFORMED THAN WE THOUGHT.

I WILL SAY THEY DID LIKE OTHER ASPECTS OF THE STATE AND OUR EFFORTS BY LOOKING AT THIS SURVEY IS DESIGNED TO HIGHLIGHT THE THINGS WE THINK ARE BENEFICIAL AND INFORM THE POPULATION WE NEED TO BE MORE ACCEPTING AND TOLERATING AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO KEEP MORE GRADUATES ONE OF THE FUNNY THINGS IN THE SURVEY ALL OF THE WOMEN WHO WERE INTENDING TO GO TO GRADUATE LOVE THE BEACH.

BUT THE MEN LOVED THE MOUNTAINS WILL.

SO HOPEFULLY THEY WILL COME TO MONTGOMERY AND SOCIALIZE.

SO THERE WERE INTERESTING THINGS ABOUT THEIR PREFERENCES OR THINGS THEY DID LIKE ABOUT THE STATE.

THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN RELIGIOUS ACTIVITIES WAS IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE THAT WERE INTERESTED IN STAYING IN THE STATE.

THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS WE DO BRING.

THE FRIENDLINESS OF THE PEOPLE IN GENERAL WAS RATED REAL HIGH.

>> I KNOW YOU SAID THE LEGISLATURE WAS FUNDING THIS INITIATIVE BUT I THINK WHEN YOU SAY PERCEPTION OF THE STATE AND DIVERSITY AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THE LEGISLATURE IS ALSO PASSING LAWS THESE STUDENTS ARE SEEING AS DIVISIVE AND REASONS NO TO SAY.

>> YES.

WE COMMUNICATE WHAT THE RESEARCH SAYS.

WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT.

THE OTHER THING WE DO IS TRY TO HAVE STUDENTS TO HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO INTERACT WITH BUSINESS LEADERS ON THEIR CAMPUS.

WE ARE PROMOTING OPPORTUNITY TRACKS, WHICH IS A WAY TO HAVE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE INCENTIVES FOR GREATS TO MOVE TO THEIR COMMUNITIES, TO HAVE OPEN HOUSES AND BRING THEIR BUSINESSES THERE.

AN EXAMPLE, I HOPE OUR FIRST ONE WILL BE IN DECATUR.

THEY HAVE A THING FOR THE BEST AND BRIGHTEST.

SO, THEY HAVE A LOAN FORGIVENESS PROGRAM FOR PEOPLE WITH MATH AND SCIENCE CREDENTIALS IF THEY LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS.

THE CRITERIA IS YOU HAVE TO BE ACTIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY SERVICE ORGANIZATION.

SO, WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS BUILDING A FUTURE POPULATION THAT IS ENGAGED IN LOCAL COMMUNITY EFFORTS.

I THINK THAT IS AN EXCITING INITIATIVE AND I HOPE OTHER COMMUNITIES DO THAT.

I WILL SAY, WE'RE NOT ONLY STOPPING THERE ON JUST TRYING TO KEEP THE PEOPLE GRADUATING IN THE STATE BUT ALSO ENCOURAGING PEOPLE FROM OUT OF STATE THAT HAVE GONE TO COME BACK.

WE HAVE RECENTLY IDENTIFIED NEW ADDRESSES AND CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THE GRADUATES WHO HAVE GONE IN THE LAST TEN YEARS, FROM MANY OF OUR UNIVERSITIES AND GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN OF OPPORTUNITIES IN THE SAME FIELD THAT ARE IN ALABAMA TO SEE IF THEY COME BACK.

YOU HAVE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH TO SNOW THAT BRYANT USED TO SAY MAMA IS CALLING.

HE CAME BACK FOR THAT REASON AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED.

PEOPLE WILL SAY I COULD HAVE THE SAME JOB IN THE PLACE BUT CLOSER TO WHERE MY FAMILY, MY ROOTS AND MY INTERESTS WERE WHEN I WAS A YOUNG PERSON.

I THINK THAT WILL MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE.

>> IS OUT OF STATE STUDENT A FACTOR?

I KNOW SOME UNIVERSITIES, INCLUDING THE UNIVERSITY OF ALABAMA SPECIFICALLY HAVE MADE A HUGE PUSH TO RECRUIT OUT OF STATE STUDENTS TO GET INCREASED TUITION.

MAYBE IT IS GOOD FOR THEM AS AN INSTITUTION IN SPREADING THEIR INFLUENCE BUT ARE THOSE STUDENTS MORE LIKELY TO GET EDUCATED IN ALABAMA AND LEAVE?

>> YEAH, THEY ARE.

I WILL SAY, CERTAINLY THE DATA OVERALL FOR ALL OF OUR UNIVERSITY GRADUATES AT THE BACHELOR'S LEVEL, ONLY 15% OUT OF STATERS WILL STAY.

IT VARIES WIDELY BY INSTITUTION.

UNIVERSITY OF ALABAMA DOES STUDIES ON THIS AND THEY FOUND 30% STAY, WHICH I THINK IS GOOD.

AUBURN, YOU KNOW, HAS A LOT OF GEORGIA GRADUATES.

SOMETIMES THOSE GEORGIA PEOPLE THINK THAT AUBURN IS CONVENIENTLY LOCATED UNIVERSITY THAT THEY GO BACK HOME A LOT QUICKER.

AUBURN -- ALABAMA DOES A GOOD JOB RECRUITING FROM SEVERAL STATES UP NORTH.

THEY LIKE OUR WEATHER.

WE HAVE SURVEYS AND ASKED STUDENTS WHAT THEY LIKE ABOUT THE STATE AND THE PEOPLE UP NORTH LIKE THE WEATHER.

IT WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE THOSE FROM ALABAMA DON'T LIKE OUR WEATHER.

>> IT IS STARTING TO GET A LITTLE WARM.

>> LITTLE TOASTY.

>> WHILE I HAVE GOT YOU, I WANT TO GET IN THE TOPIC OF SCHOOLTEACHERS BECAUSE THERE WAS A FASCINATING REPORT ON THE ALABAMA COMMISSION ON SERVICES, THE WONKIEST NAME IN THE WORLD.

IT SHOWED 50% OF ALABAMA TEACHERS LEAVE THE CLASSROOM AFTER THE FIRST FIVE YEARS.

WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?

THAT SEEMS LIKE A CONCERNING STATISTIC.

>> THE WHOLE TEACHER PROFESSION IS HAVING ISSUES.

WE ACTUALLY DID RESEARCH.

I LOVE WORKING WITH THOSE GUYS.

THEY ARE BRILLIANT MINDS.

I THINK THEY ARE ACTUALLY RECOMMENDING THE RIGHT THING FOR HOW TO MOVE FORWARD.

WE FOUND OUR SURVEY MIRRORED THAT.

50% OF THE PEOPLE SAID THEY WERE THINKING OF LEAVING WITHIN FIVE YEARS.

WE ASKED THEM WHY AND SOME OF IT WAS THE WORK ENVIRONMENT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

A GOOD CHUNK SAID THEY WERE RETIRING.

SO WE ALREADY KNEW WE HAD AN AUDIENCE THAT WAS GOING AND WE COULDN'T CONVINCE THEM TO STAY, BUT WE DID FIND THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE STUDENTS WERE UNRULY, THE PARENTS WERE DISRESPECTFUL.

THE COMMUNITY DIDN'T RESPECT TEACHERS ANYMORE.

SOME OF IT WAS PERSONAL ISSUES.

A LOT WERE BURNT OUT BUT THE BURNOUT WAS PEOPLE WHO SAID THEY WERE GOING TO STAY AND SOME THAT SAID THEY WEREN'T.

THE LEGISLATURE DID A GREAT JOB ADJUSTING THE PAY SCALE AND THE PAY STRUCTURE AND RESPONDED TO THE CONCERNS AND ISSUES IN OUR SURVEY.

THEY HAVE INCREMENTAL PAY INCREASES TO ADDRESS THE SALARY CONCERNS AND EXTRA BUMPS FOR PEOPLE NEARING OR RIGHT BEYOND RETIREMENT AGE AND I THINK THAT WAS THE MOST CLEVER, BEST POLICY, BEST LEGISLATION IN RESPONSE TO DATA AND INFORMATION.

I WAS REALLY PROUD OF THE LEGISLATURE'S EFFORT ON THAT.

>> THAT'S INTERESTING.

I AGREE.

EVERYBODY SEEMED PLEASED WITH THE PAY RAISES, THE STEP RAISES AND ALL OF THAT, BUT IT CONCERNS ME ABOUT THE REASONS WHY THEY ARE LEAVING.

YOU COULD PAY -- INCREASE PAY ALL YOU WANT BUT IF THERE IS A CULTURAL PROBLEM IN TERMS OF BEHAVIOR AND PARENTS, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU CAN'T LEGISLATE AROUND THAT.

>> YES.

THOSE THAT WORK IN EDUCATION WE HAVE ACTUALLY MET.

-- WE MET WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT AND SOME FOLKS FROM K-12 ADVOCACY GROUP AND STARTED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION OF HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT THE WORK ENVIRONMENT IS BETTER FOR STUDENTS -- I MEAN FOR STUDENTS AND TEACHERS SO THEY DON'T HAVE THOSE FEELINGS AND CONCERNS ABOUT THEIR PERSONAL SAFETY OR RESPECT IN THE PROFESSION, IN THE WORKPLACE AND OUTSIDE OF THE WORKPLACE.

SO, THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS.

>> CAN THERE BE ANYTHING DONE AT THE INSTITUTIONAL LEVEL TO PREPARE TEACHERS FOR THE NEW REALITY OF THE CLASSROOM?

>> YES.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT MORE EFFORT ABOUT CLASSROOM MANAGEMENT AND HOW TO DO DISCIPLINE APPROPRIATELY.

AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE VERY INTO LITIGATION NOW DAYS.

SO THAT'S A LOT OF IT.

HOW DO YOU DISCIPLINE WITHOUT THE CONCERN THAT SOMEBODY WILL SUE YOU FOR SOMETHING THAT YOU SAID OR DID TO TRY TO DISCIPLINE THE STUDENT.

SOME IS VALID BUT OVERALL THERE IS THAT CONCERN.

THOSE TYPE OF TRAINING WHERE WE SPECIFICALLY GO THROUGH THAT.

I WILL SAY, THERE ARE VIGNETTES AND TRAINING ACTIVITIES THAT SHOW HOW TO CONTROL THE CLASSROOM AND KEEP IT SUSTAINED.

IF WE CAN HELP INCORPORATE THAT THIS OUR CURRICULUM THAT WILL HELP.

>> WE'RE OUT OF TIME.

JIM, WE HAVE COVERED SO MANY TOPICS.

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>> IT WAS FUN.

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