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>> LIKE THE CICADAS, WE ARE HERE.

GR.. LOTS TO TALK ABOUT.

LET'S MEET THE PANELISTS.

THERE'S WENDY WIESE FROM THE BIG 550 KTRS.

ALONG WITH BILL MCCLELLAN FROM THE ST. LOUIS POST DISPATCH.

FROM THE RIVERFRONT TIMES AND ITS SISTER PUBLICATIONS, SARAH FENSKE, AND ALVIN REID FROM THE ST. LOUIS AMERICAN.

WELL, YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN ON THIS WASH-U PRO PALESTINIAN PROTESTER STORY FOR A WEEK OR SO.

ALL OVER LIKE A BAD SUIT.

WHAT'S HAPPENED LAST WEEK.

PRO PALESTINIAN PROTESTERS ASKED COOLIDGE NOT SPEAK, AND WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY HAS SURROUNDED ITS CAMPUS WITH A BIG FENCE, AND YOU HAVE BEEN REPORTING THAT WASH-U ASKED STUDENTS OR OTHERS TO ACT AS THE TATTLETALES TO BE INDIVIDUAL I DON'VIDEOGRAPHERS.AND AT LEAST ONE GRAD ST UDENT IS BEING DENIED A DIPLOMA DURING GRADUATION CEREMONIES NEXT MONDAY.

WHAT ARE..

THIS?

IS WASH-.. OR IS IT MAKING A MISTAKE?

>> THERE'S A LOT OF TENSION ON THE WASH-U CAMPUS.

I FEEL LIKE ANY TIME YOU HAVE TO PUT A WALL UP TO KEEP PEOPLE IN OR KEEP PEOPLE OUT, IT'S A BAD SIGN.

THERE'S .. LOVE A WALL.

THIS IS AGAINST THE HUMAN NATURE THAT WE WANT THE FREEDOM WE WANT TO FEEL.

I THINK IT'S KIND OF SAD.

I FEEL BAD FOR THE STUDENTS WHO CAME UP DURING COVID WHEN THEY STARTED THEIR COLLEGE CAREER AND ENDING ON THE FENCED IN CAMPUS WHERE PEOPLE HAVE TO SHOW IDS TO GET IN AND OUT.

I REMEMBER BEING A COLLEGE STUDENT, FREELY WALKING THROUGH THE FIELDS, GO TO THE BAR, WALK HOME.

.. OF A FORTRESS UNTIL WE GET THROUGH COMMENCEMENT.

>> I WOULD SAY POOR WASH-U.

THEY SHOULD BE MORE PART OF THE COMMUNITY, AND THEIR 13 FESTIVAL GOT CANCELED BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY CAME IN AND STARTED BRAWLING.

AND I HAVE SYMPATHY .. NOT WANTING ALL THE NONSTUDENTS TO COME ON AND PROTEST.

>> I'M SORRY.

WHAT WERE THE NUMBERS?

OUT OF 100, THERE WERE 24 STUDENTS, MAYBE FOUR FACULTY MEMBERS AND THE REST WERE OUTSIDE AGITATORS.

>> THOSE WERE THE PEOPLE THAT GOT ARRESTED, AND A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DISPERSED IN VARIOUS POINTS AFTER WARNINGS WERE GIVEN.

.. CLEAR LINE THAT THE VERY WORST PEOPLE GOT ARRESTED AND EVERYONE WHO DIDN'T GET ARRESTED WOULD LAWFULLY OBEY.

THERE WERE ALSO A LOT OF ALUMNI THERE.

THIS CITY AND CARE ABOUT WASH-U AND SHOWED UP FOR THAT PROTEST.

I DON'T KNOW.

SOME OF .. AN E-MAIL THAT WENT OUT TO THE LAW SCHOOL THAT SAID WHEN YOU SHOW UP FOR GRADUATION, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO UNZIP, AND BASICALLY SHOW THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ANY POLITICAL MESSAGES IS WHERE WE THINK THIS WAS HEADED UNDERNEATH THE ROBE.

>> I WENT TO MARC MARYVILLE'S GRADUATION ON SATURDAY.

YOU HAD TO EMPTY YOUR POCKETS.

AND DON'T YOU THINK THAT WASH-U DOESN'T WANT TO HAVE TO CANCEL ITS GRADUATION, AS SOME HAVE, AND DOESN'T WANT ENCAMPMENTS ON CAMPUS FOREVER AND A DAY.

>> YOU SAY THEY DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO LOOK IN.

MAYBE THEY DON'T WANT PEOPLE INSIDE TO LOOK OUT AT THE PROTESTERS.

THAT'S W..

FENCE.

>> THAT WOULDN'T BOTHER ME AS FAR AS ME GRADUATING.

I REALLY WISH THAT THAT FENCE WASN'T THERE.

IF I WERE PRESIDENT OF ANY UNIVERSITY, I WOULD THINK TO MYSELF WHATEVER IS GOING TO GO DOWN IS GOING TO GO DOWN.

I'M NOT FENCING OFF MY PROPERTY, HOWEVER, THIS IS A PRIVATE SCHOOL AS OPPOSED TO I'M MORE IN TUNE WITH PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

YOU MADE A GOOD NOTE AND REMINDED ME OF SOMETHING LAST WEEKEND.

..

THE GRADUATING ATHLETES, AND I REALLY THOUGHT IT WAS COOL.

I SERIOUSLY HAD NOT BEEN ON CAMPUS NEAR GRADUATION SINCE GRADUATION.

Z YOU KN.. OF EVERYBODY WHO IS GRADUATING JUST WANTS TO GRADUATE AND HAVE THE SPECIAL DAY.

I DON'T BLAME WASH-U FOR PUTTING UP A FENCE BUT I REALLY, REALLY, WISH THEY DIDN'T.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THEM HOLDING, IF THE SCHOOL DECIDED YOUR BEHAVIOR WAS SUCH, WE WILL MAIL YOUR DIPLOMA.

I WOULD THINK GOOD, I WILL HAVE TO GO TO JAIL.

MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE RIGHT ADDRESS.

>..

INVESTIGATING.

THEY SAI.. OF IT WILL HAVE TO BE INVESTIGATED BEFORE YOU GET YOUR DIPLOMA.

.. RECORD.

BU.. AND ALL THE SECURITY, SOME OF THESE KIDS ARE DECEDENTS OF THE 6 MILLION WHO PAR ISSUED IN THE HOLOCAUST.

THEI.. REAL.

AND I THINK IT I.. IS JUSTIFIED.

THAT FEAR IS JUSTIFIED IN MY OPINION.

AND WASHIN..

THEM TO ACT ON THAT FEAR, THEY ARE DOING WHAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING.

&g.. SCOTT FITZPATRICK, WENDY.

HE HAS ASKED PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIND THE FORMER CIRCUIT ATTORNEY FOR THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS, KIM GARDNER, TO CALL THE HOTLINE OR E-MAIL HIM OR CALL THE 800 NUMBER, BECAUSE HE'S TRYING TO WRAP UP AN AUDIT OF HER OFFICE THAT WAS ACTUALLY STARTED BY THE PREDECESSOR, NICOLE GALLOWAY.

HE CALLED THE LAWYER IN THIS TOWN, AND THE LAWYER SAID THEY ARE NOT WITH HER ANYMORE.

AND THEY GAVE THE NUMBER FOR THE LAWYER IN WASHINGTON, D.C.

THEY WOULDN'T RETURN ANY PHONE CALLS.

IS THAT GOING TOO FAR?

>> IT SOUNDS REMINISCENT OF DOG THE BOUNTY HUNTER, WE SHOULD PUT HER FACE ON A POSTER AND PUT IT UP ON TELEPHONE POLES.

BUT I KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S DOING, BECAUSE IF YOU ASK THE FAMILY OF JANELLE EDMONDSON ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE CIRCUIT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND DANIEL RILEY, AND 100 BOND HEARINGS OR WHAT HAVE YOU THAT WERE NOT TAKEN CARE OF, THEN I THINK, YEAH, IT'S WORTHY OF AN INVESTIGATION.

>>..

POLITICAL.

AND IT'S LIKE ..

GIFT THAT DOESN'T STOP GIVING, AND THE REPUBLICANS CAN'T BELIEVE THEIR BAD FORTUNE THAT KIM GARDNER IS GONE AND GABRIELLE GORE IS DOING A GOOD JOB, AND SO ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY HAVE TO DIG UP KIM GARDNER AND POKE AT IT AND SEE IF IT MOVES.

>> NOTHING YOU CAN DO.

ALL YOU COULD DO IS PROBABLY TRY TO REMOVE HER FROM OFFICE.

YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A TOUGH TIME DOING THAT.

SHE RESIGNED.

SHE'S GONE.

THIS IS POLITICAL.

HOW MUCH HAVE YOU SPENT ON THIS INVESTIGATION?

I WOULD .. YOU COULD HAVE OFFERED ME HALF OF IT AND I WOULD HAVE CALLED WITHIN A WEEK AND SAID RIGHT THERE.

AND YOU CAN FI.. WANT TO FIND IF YOU ARE SERIOUS.

>> YOU SERIOUSLY DON'T THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE ANY FURTHER INVESTIGATION OF WHAT WENT WRONG IN THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

I KNOW SHE'S GONE.

>> SHE WAS A HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE.

>> AUDITOR, LIKE IT OR NOT, SHE WAS A PUBLIC OFFICIAL.

WHY ARE YOU CUTTING HER SOME SLACK?

>> IF YOU ARE AN.. KIM GARDNER TYPE IS NOT THE PERSON THAT HAS THE DETAILED FINANCIAL INFORMATION.

YOU SHOULD BE COMBING TH.. THOSE RECORDS.

YOU SHOULD BE TRACKING DOW.. PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE INVOICES AND PAID THE BILL.

HOW MUCH YOU WANT TO BET KIM GARDNER DOESN'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THESE QUESTIONS?

SHE'S NOT IN THE WEEDS WHICH IS WHERE HE SHOULD BE.

>> SHE WILL SAY AS MUCH.

SHE WILL TELL THEM.

I DIDN'T HANDLE THIS OR THIS.

>> THEY WILL DRAG THAT TESTIMONY ON FOREVER.

>> DON'T FORGET IT WAS THE CITIZENS OF ST. LOUIS CITY, AND I THINK YOU ARE THE ONLY PANELIST THAT LIVES IN THE CITY, WHO ASKS FOR THE AUDIT.

>> I'M ALL FOR THE AUDIT CONTINUING.

I WOULD LOVE T.. WRAP UP.

THERE ARE FREQUENTLY AUDITS WHERE PEOPLE WHO ARE KEY PEOPLE COOPERATE BECAUSE THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR CHARGES OR PUSH BACK OR WHATEVER.

THE THIN.. IS GET TO THE BOTTOM OF ITS BOOKS.

JOB, NOT HOLD A PRESS CONFERENCE.

>>..

IN T.. ARE TALKING ABOUT SETTING ASIDE $350,000 TO HELP PEOPLE WHO ARE RUNNING AROUND, DRIVING AROUND WITH EXPIRED TEMPORARY TAGS TO PAY THEIR SALES TAX AND THEIR INSURANCE, SOMETHING THAT MOST PEOPLE PAY OUT OF THEIR OWN POCKETS.

SH..

SALES TAX AND INSURANCE ON CARS THAT DON'T HAVE CURRENT REGISTRATIONS?

>> ABSOLUTELY NOT.

BECAUSE A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THOSE FOLKS, I'M SORRY, WOULD NEVER PAY THE CITY BACK.

IT'S THROWING GOOD MONEY AFTER BAD.

THEIR CARS COULD NOT PASS THE INSPECTION TO GET THE STICKER.

SO HOW DOES THAT WORK?

THAT'S A QUESTION I WOULD HAVE ABOUT IT, TOO.

BUT THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH IT IS.

>> PEOPLE WOULD ..

IT'S A STATE PROBLEM.

THE STATE HAS TO MAKE IT SO THAT WHEN YOU BUY A CAR, YOU PAY THE TAX WHEN YOU BUY THE CAR.

I HAVE LIVED IN OTHER STATES AND NEVER HAD A SITUATION LIKE THIS WHERE YOU BUY THE CAR AND OH, YOU OWE US 2800 ON TAX.

WELL, I DON'T HAVE THAT.

HERE IS YOUR CAR ANYWAY.

THIS IS A STATE PROBLEM.

>> WHAT'S REALLY CRAZY IS IT'S BEEN REMEDIED.

BUT IT'S STILL IN THE PIPELINE.

THEY ARE TRYING TO GET THE COMPUTER PROGRAMS THAT THEY NEED TO MAKE IT WORK.

>> WHEN YOU SAY REMEDY, THEY CAST A BILL SAYING THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS, BUT THEY CAN'T GET IT TOGETHER.

>> THEY CAN'T GET ALL THE PARTS MOVING AT THE SAME TIME.

>> THEY DO IT RIGHT AT THE DEALERSHIP.

>> WHAT I THOUGHT .. UNBELIEVABLE WAS THE SPOKESPERSON FOR THE TISHAURA JONES ADMINISTRATION, SOMEBODY IN CITY HALL SAID THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO TAKE A HOLISTIC APPROACH.

I THOUGH..

COLD.

THIS.. YOU DON'T TAKE A HOLISTIC APPROACH, IN MY OPINION, TO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

>> YOU COULD, BUT ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT IS GIVING A LOAN TO PEOPLE.

AUTOMATICALLY THERE'S A PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE IN AMERICA THAT HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME OR NEVER REPAY A LOAN, SO YOU KNOW BY DOING THIS, YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE COSTING YOURSELF MONEY BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET ALL THE MONEY BACK.

>> NOT JUST NOW, BUT IN THE FUTURE.

BECAUSE .. PEOPLE, YOU KNOW WHAT?

IT'S ALL RIGHT.

>> I HAVE A LOT OF DOUBTS THAT THE CITY CAN COMPETENTLY EXECUTE THIS PROGRAM.

BUT I DO LIKE THE INTENTIONS HERE.

THIS METRO AREA TO GET AROUND WITHOUT A CAR.

IT IS SO HARD TO BE A MEMBER OF THE WORKING POOR IN ST. LOUIS, BECAUSE YOU ARE TRYING TO GET A CAR, TRYING TO GET ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY SALES TAX.

IT'S VERY HARD TO GET AN AFFORDABLE CAR THESE DAYS.

THOSE PRICES SKYROCKETED.

YOU CAN'T ROLL THAT INTO A LOAN, WHICH YOU COULD DO IF YOU WERE PURCHASING IT FROM A DEALER.

IT'S A PROBLEM.

>> WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DELINQUENT ARE INDIGENT.

>> IN OTHER STATES THEY ENFORCE IT LOCALLY.

FOR EXAMPLE, I..

THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A TEMPORARY TAG IN MANY STATES.

BUT AFTER TWO YEARS OR WHATEVER IT IS, THAT PLATE EXPIRES, AND YOU HAVE TO RENEW IT WITH YOUR PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX PAYMENT OR BY SHOWING PROOF OF INSURANCE, THAT SORT OF THING.

TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE IN COMPLIANCE, CITIES LIKE NEW YORK CITY PUT BOOTS ON CARS, AND YOU GET THE BOOT OFF WHEN YOU HAVE EVERYTHING PAID UP.

>> I WANT TO ADD THIS IS A THING WHERE THE HEART IS IN THE RIGHT PLACE.

ADDRESS A PROBLEM AND TRY TO COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF YOUR MAIN WAY OF DOING IT.

I JUST DON'T THINK THIS WILL WORK TO THE POINT THAT IT WILL BE A FINANCIAL SETBACK.

BUT I DO APPLAUD THEM FOR AT LEAST TRYING.

>> I LIKE CHARLIE'S INHUMANE WAY.

>> IF YOU BELIEVE THEY ARE ALL POOR AND I SEE EXPIRED PLATES ON WHITE OUT AND NOT GENERALLY IN POOR NEIGHBORHOODS.

>> TOWN AND COUNTRY MINI VANS.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CLAYTON POLICE GET ON THAT, CHARLIE.

TH..

THE DIFFERENT POLICE DEPARTMENTS THAT WE HAVE.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS, I THINK A LOT OF THESE CASES ARE VERY MUCH POVERTY CASES.

I THINK THE COPS COULD SORT THAT OUT IF THEY WANT TO TICKET SPORTS CARS WITH TEMPORARY TAGS.

>> SOMEHOW THEY MANAGED TO PAY FOR THE PLATES.

BUT THE PROBLEM IS THE SALES TAX IN THE STATE ON SO HIGH.

YOU GO TO FLORENCE, 5, 6%, BUT HERE IT'S AROUND 10%, WHICH BRINGS ME TO SOME OTHER ISSUE, I THINK.

OH, YEAH.

SHOULD WE RAISE THE SALES TAX IN ORDER TO PAY FOR EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION?

THAT.. LOUIS WANTS TO DO.

>> I THINK IT'S A BAD BILL.

TO RAISE IT HIGHER AND REGRESSIVE TAX AND HITS PEOPLE HARDEST.

AN.. FUND.

THE MENT.. ADMINISTER IT AND GIVING GRANTS, PEOPLE WHO DO EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION.

THESE AR.. NONPROFITS AROUND THE CITY PROVIDING THIS CHILD CARE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT IT MAKES SENSE TO START GETTING TAX DOLLARS TO THEM WHEN WE ARE GOING TO BE TAKING TAX DOLLARS OUT OF THE POCKETS OF SOME OF THE POOREST CITIZENS.

>..

SALES TAX PARTY.

AND 20 YEARS AGO YOU WANTED TO DO THIS, AND IT WAS AT 6%.

AND MAYBE THE VOTERS COULD CONSIDER IT.

I DON'T THINK IT WOULD PASS, BECAUSE IT'S JUST TOO HIGH.

PLUS BEFORE I DID THIS, I MEAN, EVERY EARLY CHILDHOOD CENTER IN THE CITY WOULD BE TO BE INSPECTED FROM TOP TO BOTTOM.

A LOT OF THEM ARE SKIRTING BY ANYWAY, AND I THINK BEFORE YOU GAVE OUT A DIME IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM YOU HAVE TO BE UP TO A CERTAIN STANDARD.

>> LOOKING AT A FUTURE SERIES BY THE ST. LOUIS AMERICAN OR SOMETHING?

I DO.. >> WE LIKE HAVING THE ST. LOUIS AMERICAN.

BILL, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF.. PLAN BECAUSE THEY CAN'T FIND ENOUGH SCHOOL BUS DRIVERS IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS?

THEY ARE GOING TO GIVE FAMILIES 75-DOLLAR WEEKLY GIFT CARDS TO DRIVE THEIR OWN KIDS TO SCHOOL.

>> I THINK THAT SOUNDS LIKE A FINE PLAN.

I REALLY DO.

IF THE KIDS CAN'T GET TO SCHOOL ON THE BUS, THEY HAVE GOT TO GET THEM SOMEWHERE.

THEY HAVE TO GET THERE SOMEHOW AND TO ENCOURAGE THE PARENTS TO GET THEIR KIDS THERE AND PRESUMABLY THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MONEY, AND PAYING THEM TO TAKE THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.

MAYBE THEY CAN.. MONEY AND GET THEIR PLATES UP-TO-DATE.

YOU HAVE TO GET THE KIDS TO SCHOOL.

>> WE AL.. YOU ARE TOO YOUNG TO REMEMBER.

WE ALL WALKED TO SCHOOL, WITH HOLES IN OUR SHOES IN THE SNOW.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

FOR SOME REASON, I'M WORRIED ABOUT LIABILITY.

COULD THAT COME BACK TO BITE THE CITY?

>> YOU W..

LIABILITY, BEFORE THEY TURNED TO THE PARENT PLAN, THEY WERE ACTUALLY PUTTING THESE KIDS IN TAXIS, AND I KNOW PARENTS WHO THAT HAD ST. LOUIS PUBLIC SCHOOL CHILDREN PUT IN TAXIS TO BE DRIVEN ACROSS TOWN.

TO ME, IT'S SUCH AN IMPERFECT SOLUTION.

>> KIDS IN..

IN AFTER SCHOOL ACTIVITIES, THEY TOOK TAXIS FOR 30 YEARS.

>> THESE ARE 5 YEAR-OLDS.

HAVE YOU TALKED TO TAXI DRIVERS?

SOME ARE LOVELY.

BUT I DON'T KNOW I WANT MY FIVE-YEAR-OLD RIDING IN A TAXI TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE TO GET OFF.

SHE'S NOT SMART ENOUGH TO BE IN THE SITUATION.

>> HOW ABOUT THE P.. >> MAKES SENSE.

>> HIRE A NEW FLEET OF DRIVERS, AND IT WOULD HAVE TO BE LIKE A BOOMER PERSON AND PASS SOME TYPE OF SCRUTINY.

ALSO, HOW DO YOU VERIFY THAT THE PARENT DROVE ENOUGH TO WARRANT THE $75, BUT I THINK YOU COULD FIGURE THAT OUT.

GET A PUNCH CARD, BUT I THINK YOU COULD FIGURE IT OUT.

>> CERTAINLY THE CHILD HAS TO BE AT SCHOOL.

THAT'S THE FIRST THING.

>> PARENT ALSO HAS TO BE AT WORK.

>> CHILD HAS TO BE O..

ARRIVE AT LEAST FOUR DAYS THAT WEEK.

>> SHOULD BE FIVE OUT OF FIVE FOR SURE.

>> THEY ARE STILL LOOKING AT CONTRACTS WITH VARIOUS BUS COMPANIES.

MAYBE .. >> THIS SHOULD LIGHT A FIRE UNDER THE BUS COMPANIES, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN PARENTS SAY IT WAS NICE TO JUST TAKE LITTLE SAM OUT HERE AND HAVE HIM GET ON THE BUS, BUT I'M GETTING PAID NOW.

>> ALVIN REID, MIKE FLOOR I I FLORIO SAYS BECAUSE OF THE GREAT NUMBER OF FANS ATTENDING BATTLEHAWKS GAMES, ST. LOUIS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR AN N.F.L.

FRANCHISE.

>> I LIKE FLORIO.

AND IT'S ON SIRIUS RADIO, AND I'M NOT GOING TO SUBSCRIBE TO PEACOCK.

I THINK HE MAY BE ON TO SOMETHING.

IT SHOWS.. FOOTBALL IN ST. LOUIS.

HOWEVER, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT TRANSLATES TO THE BIG MONEY AND TICKET PRICE AND ALL OF THAT.

I REALLY, REALLY WANT A TEAM HERE, BUT THERE'S SOME KIND OF A NOPHENOMENA.

NOBODY IS REALLY WATCHING ON TV.

I JUST KIND OF DON'T GET IT.

>> THEN THERE'S THE OR PESKY PART OF THE NEWLY $1 BILLION THAT ST. LOUIS TOOK FROM THE N.F.L.

THAT PRO..

CHANCES.

AS.. WILL ALWAYS HOPE THAT SOMETHING WONDERFUL LIKE THAT COULD HAPPEN AGAIN.

>> I L.. YOU CAN HAVE THAT TEAM.

>> ONE OF OUR WRITERS AT THE RFT COINED THE TERM THIS IS THE FIRST FAN EMPOWERED ENTIRELY BY DESPITSPITE.

WOULD THEY COME BACK IF THE NSM WOULD TAKE THEM BACK?

THEY PROBABLY WOULD.

WE NEED MORE RED AND CIRCUSES, AND WE LIKE TO GET ROWDY.

IT CAN GIVE YOU A GREAT EXCUSE TO DO IT.

WE DON'T CARE IF THE FOOTBALL IS GOOD OR BAD.

WE WANT AN EXCUSE TO GET OUT AND GET ROWDY.

>> LOOK WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THE CARDINALS?

>> THEY ARE SACRED.

>> THEY ARE NEVER BEEN AS ROWDY.

>> TO GET A FOOTBALL TEAM, WE WILL HAVE TO SPEND ABOUT $2 BILLION FOR A NEW STADIUM.

N.F.L.

OWNERS DON'T PAY IT FOR THEMSELVES AND BASEBALL DOESN'T EITHER.

AN.. SUPPORT FOR THE RENOVATIONS OF THE BUSCH STADIUM.

I THINK THEY ARE SO BIG THEY WILL GET WHAT THEY WANT.

>> READ THE ROOM.

SO MANY PEOPLE ARE ANGRY AT THE CARDINALS RIGHT NOW.

WHEN WE PUT THE STORY OUT THERE INITIALLY THE GROUNDSWELL SAYING HECK NO, WHAT ARE THEY THINKING?

GIVE US A WINNING TEAM FIRST.

THEY HAD TO BACK AWAY FROM IT.

THEY GAVE A STATEMENT FROM THE BUSINESS JOURNAL DISTANCING THEMSELVES FROM THE WHOLE IDEA AND BACK IN A WEEK FLOATING THE TRIAL BALLOON WITH THE POST DISPATCH.

IT'S C.. YOU HAVE A PROGRESSIVE ADMINISTRATION AT CITY HALL THAT ISN'T NECESSARILY GOING TO WANT TO GIVE A LOT OF MONEY TO STADIUMS, AND YOU HAVE A VERY ANGRY FAN BASE.

>> AND THEY ARE LIVING IN THE 20th CENTURY WHERE YOU COULD KIND OF DEMAND BUT WERE NICE ENOUGH TO PRETEND TO ASK FOR THE CITIZENS TO HELP PAY FOR THIS.

TIMES IS HAVE CHANGED.

>> PEOPLE SEE THE FORBES REPORT AND PAY SOME ATTENTION TO IT ABOUT VALUE OF FRANCHISE, AND THAT BOTTOM LINE IS SUCH THAT -- THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED REALLY IN KANSAS CITY.

WE LOV.. WE LOVE THE ROYALS.

BUT THE CHIEFS MADE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

>> EVEN MORE AFTER TAYLOR AND TRAV, WHATEVER IT'S CALLED.

AND I'M GOING TO INVOKE THE WORDS OF RAY HARTMANN.

ANCIENT RUINS OF BUSCH STADIUM TOO.

VINYL SIDING.

WE CAN KNOCK THEM DOWN.

>> I DON'T THINK YOU GUYS ARE READING THE ROOM, BECAUSE THIS IS A SPORTS SOCIETY WHERE COLLEGE FOOTBALL COACHES ARE MAKING $3 MILLION, BUT THE LINEMEN ON THE TEAM ARE MAKING TENS OF THOUSANDS.

HOW MUCH IS MIZZOU THROWING INTO THEIR NEW STADIUM RIGHT NOW?

>> THAT'S A LOT OF DONATION WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT COLLEGE.

QUITE FRANKLY THREE OF US WENT TO THE GAME FRIDAY, AND DIAMOND SUITE TICKETS, AND VERY MUCH REDUCED PRICE.

>> WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT RIGHT NOW PEOPLE AREN'T FLOCKING DOWN THERE LIKE THEY USED TO.

>> THE GOLDEN DAY WHEN THE FANS BOOED.

&g.. >> OPENING DAY IS A DAY OF OPTIMISM.

>> IN 1926 THEY BOOED THE OWNER SAM WHEN THEY TRADED WAGNER.

>> WENDY, WES WESTMINSTER PLAYS CITY OF ST. LOUIS.

>> WHY ARE YOU YELLING?

>> I DON'T KNOW.

>> WESTMINSTER PLACE, THERE'S A WOMAN WHO IS RENOVATING HER BUILDING, HER HOME.

LOCAL GUIDELINES SAY YOU HAVE A SLATE ROOF.

SHE PUT ON A MUCH LESS EXPENSIVE ROOF.

..

IT DOWN.

WHOSE SIDE ARE YOU ON?

>> I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M GOING TO SAY THIS.

THE PRESERVATION BOARD.

YOU HAVE TO DO THE DUE DILIGENCE.

I HA.. WAY.

TO LEARN THE HARD WAY.

WHEN YOU BUY IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT, THERE ARE STRINGS ATTACHED.

I FEEL HORRIBL..

BUT RULES ARE RULES.

>> $250,000 FOR A ROOF?

I HAVE A FRIEND.

HE'S GONE NOW.

HE'S LIVING IN UNIVERSITY CITY IN ONE OF THE FANCY NEIGHBORHOODS.

HE WAS.. LOOK AT MY ROOF.

HE WOULD GO THAT'S WHAT YOU PUT ON A FISHING SHACK.

I THINK $250,000 FOR A ROOF IS TOO MUCH TO ASK ANYBODY TO DO.

>> 10 SECONDS TO GO.

>> WHAT DO YOU SAY TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE PAID WHAT THEY NEEDED TO PAY FOR THE ROOF?

>> IF THEIR ROOF GOES BAD.

>> I AGREE WITH WENDY.

I'M AFRAID WE ARE OUT OF TIME.

>> LET'S GO TO THE OLD MAILBAG AND SEE WHAT THE VIEWERS SAY ABOUT LAST WEEK'S SHOW.

WHATEVER HAPPENED TO YOUR NEXT UP PROGRAMMING?

I REALLY MISS THAT.

SO DO WE, ANDREW.

THANK YOU.

MELISSA IN SOUTH COUNTY WROTE MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS IN YOUR COFFEE CUP?

WHEN DID SLU STUDENTS' RIGHTS TO SHUT DOWN PUBLIC ROADS TAKE PRECEDENCE OVER THE PUBLIC RIGHT TO USE THE ROADS.

IN THE 1970s I REQUESTED PERMITS FOR THE STUDENTS TO MARCH FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA TO ST. PAUL AND THEY APPROVED DESPITE SHORT NOTICE.

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