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Kill him.

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Yes, yes.

Teed up for you today is we're, taking a trip down I-75 to the Great village of ton targeting.

That's right.

This is notably the home of two of not just our favorite, viewers and listeners, but two of my favorite people in the entire world.

And not to say that it isn't, Mayor Matt Shanahan or Hannah Housekeeping are going to be joining us on the program, but it is.

Also saying that.

It is, well, they're great too, but I still put above them on my list.

Grammar, moose and pop.

That's right.

Super fun.

Is there a plaque there in the town, I think.

Where?

The village.

That's what we're here to talk about.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Not to put the mayor on the spot.

And be like a historical marker.

I think that's a good idea.

Yeah, I think so, too.

Yeah.

I was going to make an age joke that you could just stand next to the marker.

Hey, did you see.

Speaking of historical.

Yes.

Did you guys see the news that last week?

Our friends at.

We got an Emmy nomination.

It's so cool for a collaborative program that they did with, Washington local with Whitmer High School on different career exploration kind of videos that they put together.

Congratulations to them.

That was great.

Yeah.

It's really it's really cool.

I mean, that's Shane and Caleb and the team that work on this program also worked on that program.

Did an incredible job.

It's unfortunate that they're not doing Emmy nomination level work on this show.

Well, the talent in the show, the got the Emmy was high school students.

Oh, that's so.

Difference right.

There.

That's there's there's real talent there.

Yeah, that's that's great.

That's a real honor.

I wonder we'll have to talk to them about whether they're going to go to the thing and do they get to dress up and all that.

And also thank think after Caleb, who must have come over the top of a disastrous and nightmare producer and production really of shame.

Well, so this is so to be fair, Shane was involved, but Tina, did this was sort of her idea.

I mean, she wrote the script.

That's so cool.

That's that's how you.

Know, that's the less sheen, the more hardware you bring home.

Maybe we need more Tina on our show.

We need.

Yes.

And less shame.

Yeah, well, I mean, we don't have Sheen on the show.

I don't.

I don't endorse mess with.

The amount of sheen we have on the show right now, which is too much.

I've.

I've said this before, and I. I would love it so much if Shane wasn't a real person.

Yeah.

Like, if he didn't.

Accidents.

That's far from the truth.

I think we need Shane on the show because the audience is going to want to know.

But like if if this is just a person that Matt made up right at the start of the show, that just this mythical.

We're going to rag on.

Yeah, but Shane is indeed a real person and is a real nice person.

Let me tell you what the staunch difference between what you're describing, and the like, the duality of in it's fitting and Snuffleupagus is relationship is Snuffleupagus was a beloved loyal friend.

With nice eyelashes.

That's right.

And Shane is none of those.

Yeah.

I've never really paid attention to his eyelashes.

Snuffleupagus looks this whole time insane.

Oh.

Those are.

I'd be delighted.

All right.

Let's just.

Let's take a break.

It's mayor Monday.

We're going to dive in.

Coming up after the break, we'll have mayor Matt Shanahan join us here on the 419.

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It's a mayor Monday edition and we've got my friend, Mayor Matt Shanahan from the Village of Ten to Anthony joining us.

Mayor, thank you so much for being here.

Thanks for having me.

I do have to.

I said I'm going to throw you guys under the bus as soon as we start here.

When, they asked, where is Mayor Shanahan from?

I said, from town targeting, and they had no idea the, the town tag knew existed.

Mr.

mayor, first of all, those two things are not true about that.

I don't talk to Kevin outside of the state.

I did ask if it was in Michigan this.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's it.

Yeah.

So why don't you catch us on the show?

I, I somebody referred is because I, I visit there all the time because that's where my wife's grandparents live.

Oh, nice.

But talk to me about where is.

That's where I think the schools are.

Right?

That is correct.

That is correct.

That school night.

Yeah.

So time tagging is, just kind of northwest of Bowling Green.

We're kind of in the middle of Grand Rapids and Haskins.

So at Sego Schools is made up of four communities.

Grand Rapids targeting Haskins and Weston.

Oh, I never knew that.

So it's about a 20 minute, 28 minute drive from here.

Okay.

What, what got you to land in town, Anthony?

So I guess let's let's let's go back to childhood.

Where are you originally from?

Toledo.

Yeah, I'm originally from the old South End Broadway, eastern area, and grew up there.

Spent about 35 years there before I got married.

And I was a a late bloomer in a lot of things in life.

So I didn't go to college until I was 28.

Okay.

I made a goal after high school, I went to central.

I went to central.

Really?

Yes.

What year?

Yep.

96 is when I graduated.

I am a class of 90 and the Bishop's Cross winner.

Yeah.

Okay.

So good for you.

That was not.

Yeah.

Yes.

Well, I don't know yet.

Yeah, I was waitlisted.

Yes, I graduated, and, I had some really influential friends that I worked up at camp DeSales up in Brooklyn, Michigan.

And, I decided to go try to visit all 50 states before I turned 30.

And, I just kind of worked at summer camps, and then I did side trips.

And.

Did you make it, too?

I didn't, I'm at 47.

Okay.

What's left?

Alaska, Hawaii and New Mexico.

You've left three really good.

Ones, I know.

Yeah, yeah.

I didn't want to do them without my wife.

Yeah, yeah.

I didn't know that at the time, but that's what I'm saying.

That.

Yeah.

So yeah.

Well played.

I can see the politics coming out now.

Yeah.

So do you have a favorite before Gretchen asks her insipid question.

What do you have a favorite state that you've visited so far?

You know, I get that question a lot, and it depends on the part of the country.

Okay.

Because East Coast is so different than West Coast.

Midwest is different than everything else.

I'm not much of a beach person.

Same.

So I will take the mountain states.

Okay.

The hiking, just the beauty.

Yeah.

Just the peacefulness of it all.

Give me a couple, then.

What?

East coast.

Which one is your favorite?

East coast?

Vermont.

Maine?

Yeah.

Awesome.

I'm going to Maine for the first time, this September.

Maine is beautiful.

And this is me saying it first.

Not you, Mr.

Mayor, but the people of real Mainers are different folk.

Yeah, you can tell you're in Maine once you meet the first individuals from Maine there.

It's beautiful country, though, for sure.

And Vermont is equally lovely.

What about the West Coast?

West coast was, Kind of my first experience was Cody, Wyoming.

Yeah, just a beautiful.

Yes.

Stay at a Koa.

Just about 40 minutes from Yellowstone.

Yeah.

You really have access to so much out there.

If that was your first trip west.

My first trip west was to Montana, and we're both from the same town.

It is, the scale.

You can't believe.

Yeah, yeah, I Montana's big sky, right?

That is what they call it, but.

Right.

But you get there, you like.

Oh, I had no idea.

And it's funny because you as you drive out there, it's flat.

Yeah.

And then 50 miles out, all of a sudden the mountains start to show and they just get bigger and bigger and bigger as you get closer.

It's almost storybook.

Yes.

Where did this idea come from?

Yeah.

To to to hit all 50 states.

Not intimidating either.

I mean that you are, a kid from the the city.

You went to a, a a Catholic school, which is really a good size, but that is a daunting task.

Yeah.

So, as I said, a friend of mine, Dean, I worked with.

I came to sales.

Yeah, Dean had done the goal already.

Okay.

And my parents had kind of encouraged us to take a trip out of Toledo once we graduated.

Then I didn't know where I wanted to go.

And, Dean and another good friend of mine, Mike, were heading out west.

Dean's from West Jordan, Utah.

He was headed home for a baptism for his niece and we were at Cedar Point.

He's okay.

You want to go and sure.

I don't want to put a dark cloud over this, but if I had the amount of children that your parents had, I would also encourage them to leave.

You're the youngest of seven.

I am the youngest of seven.

What was that like?

It was great.

We're close.

Yeah.

All my siblings and I were close.

We, I could see my siblings 4 or 5 times a day, and it's always a hug.

It's always, I love you.

It's be safe when we leave my parents, my parents are great.

True blue collar.

And my dad worked at lion store and.

And suits.

Yeah.

My mom was a nurse at Mercy and Saint Charles, and they just valued family.

Yeah.

Regardless of what happens, we support each other.

And we've done that.

Like every family, there's.

Yeah, there's challenges.

Of course, there's, health issues that come down, but, yeah, it's it's really great.

Now they'll tell you that I was spoiled and I was a typical.

Jamie always.

Is.

That's right.

Yeah.

That's right.

Yeah, yeah.

They did send some notes ahead to a stable spot to cover it.

Growing up, I mean, if you had to pick one of your siblings to eventually become mayor, would it would it have been, you know.

No, I'm.

I'm not a political person.

I'm not a legislative person.

I am a customer service type mayor or dictator.

That's no.

No, no, not at all.

Not at all.

But, you know, of the seven of us, I would not have picked me to be in this spot.

Sure.

So let's talk a little bit of how you got to that spot.

You were in Toledo area until you were about 35 ish.

Yep.

Get married at that point.

What's your wife's name?

Katie.

And then was she from that area?

No, she's from, Michigan City, Indiana.

Okay.

Went to Indiana State.

Okay.

Sycamore.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And then found her way to Toledo.

Worked at the old Saint Albert's.

Yeah.

And, that's where I met her.

She brought her sixth grade class up to to sales for outdoor education.

Yeah, and, we just we just clicked, and.

The rest is.

History.

The rest is history.

And then I. When I did graduate from college, I went to University of Toledo.

I've got a degree in recreation and resource management.

Okay.

I immediately went to work for the Boy Scouts of America.

Was never in the program as a youth.

But I worked for Erie Shores Council.

They brought me in because of my camping background, and I was a camp director out at Pioneer Scout Reservation for the first four years.

And then I ended up spending ten years with them.

But part of the deal was they asked me to live in the area I was servicing, which was Wood County.

And I had hired a girl from town tagging to get camp to sales when I was the director, and so I was familiar with the village.

And so my wife and I went down, visited town, the house, in fact.

The progress of this just for a second, camp played a really big role in my sisters lives.

They would be still attending camp if they hadn't aged out of it.

Can you just before we get into your, your ascension, and more about Anthony, can you talk a little bit about the importance of camp, in kids lives and and growing up?

Yeah.

So, I was I was blessed to be able to go to camp to sales in 1979.

Our elementary Immaculate conception is now queen of apostles.

I believe.

Principal there get five free one week passes.

There are five Shanahan boys.

And so they gave them to my parents.

Mom's like, please get.

The best gift that I've ever received.

That's right, that's right.

Yeah.

So we went, like I said, it's 79 and we continued to go year after year.

I ended up staying till 98.

Yeah, I went through all the ranks.

Junior counselor, counselor, executive director.

And so that's a that's a lot of years.

And just the, the importance of being able to take kids out of the city, give them experiences that they don't get just riding a horse, sailing on a sailboat, water skiing.

Archery.

Yep.

Shooting a gun for the first time or just taking a nature hike?

That's right.

You know, we would do what we called swamp stamps.

Yeah.

And we would just find the swamp.

We'd jump in, we have mud fights, we cover ourselves.

It was great.

We.

I would do a camp store.

I remember the swamp.

Yes.

Stop as.

Well.

And DeSales is right down the street, sir.

Yeah.

From store.

That's where we got our horses.

We rented them from store and just the.

Not just the experiences, but the friends that I made there.

I still keep in touch with it.

And it's like a second family.

Yes, absolutely.

The experience is a it doesn't just teach you how to enjoy the outdoors.

It it taught me how to speak in front of people, how to understand people, how to just be relaxed and and open minded to people from all different backgrounds.

What's your favorite camp song?

Oh, welcome to the Jungle by definition.

There's so many that we would sing at our camp.

I don't know.

I'll tell you what, one thing about camp two is, you don't get to pick.

Usually the school you go to, right?

Either in your neighborhood or there's, so, for kids that, might not be fitting in their already preset, school for a couple of weeks out of the summer, you get to be somebody else.

I get to be a place that accepts you.

Right?

And again, not to take too much time, but it's certainly an important part of your life.

It is important.

Part of one of the loves of my life, my two sisters.

And it's been, sense of, place for them.

And also where they learned leadership.

They were.

Absolutely.

So, but back to your ascension into the powerful position, of marriage and talking to your words, we coming from, a resident to political office, and I'm that based on how you started this up, it wasn't in the background saying, I cannot wait to to.

Rule this place.

That now.

So can you talk a little bit about, the, this decision making?

We always asked the mayor's, where did the conversation happen?

It was you and Katie is your your bride?

That's correct.

Was around like the kitchen table or did you slink in and say, Will you be the first to sign this, position?

Yeah, yeah, touch us about that.

Yeah.

So we it's funny, like I said, mean, we'll.

Decide if it's funny.

Yeah.

Yeah, I guess that's.

I guess that's.

True.

Yeah.

So we got a letter in the mail one day, said new sidewalks and in inviting the community to a meeting to discuss it.

That was on a Friday.

And meeting was the following Monday.

But the Saturday in between, they had so, yards being dug up before the meeting started and, and got some of the neighbors upset.

So I went to the meeting on that Monday because I kind of wanted to know the process of why are we starting before we discuss and, it was the most attended meeting I've ever seen at a council.

We're polarized about sidewalks.

And, and it became such a hot topic.

And the the meeting just didn't go well.

And about an hour into it, I just started to walk out and somebody said, where are you going?

And I said, you know, we're running in circles here.

There's a baseball game and a beer at home that can keep my attention.

And right.

And as I was walking out, I heard somebody yelled and do something about it.

And I just kept walking.

Yeah, I went home.

I watched the ball game.

And who's your.

Team?

Minnesota Twins.

Well, that's the end of the show.

It was a nice time to get to know you.

Good.

So, Yeah.

So I'm at the post office two days later.

One of the township trustees is there, and we were kind of rehashing the meeting and I said, hey, did you did you hear somebody say do something about it?

He said, yeah.

Said, I don't know what that means.

So what?

What am I gonna do about it?

He said, run for mayor.

Yeah.

I said, no, I am not a political person and I don't understand legislation.

So I go home and I was telling Katie about it, and on two weeks later, I'm filling out a petition.

It just kind of happened.

And so I was on the ballot.

I lost by seven in that election.

And how big is the electorate?

There is about 450 people.

Okay, now, the census will tell you if you look it up on line 387.

Okay.

But I am a firm believer that doing a census in the middle of Covid was not the smartest thing to do.

Sure, people didn't want to talk to people, and, so there was a council member who was leaving that got a seat open and council and, I got appointed to that seat.

And so it was right at the start of their terms, which is a four year term.

And so I got appointed to finish this four year term and two years into it, the sitting mayor took a new job, resigned.

And so I threw my hat in the ring again.

I actually ran against another sitting council member.

Won that election, and here I am.

Can you tell us a little bit about that for our audience, what the government structure is, there's obviously is there is it a mayor, city manager, is it a strong mayor and council.

So I got myself and mayor.

As mayor, I have six we, I don't like to use term.

I, we have six city council members.

Village administrator, which has been empty for really the majority of my term.

I don't know if that says something about me.

But, I think we're we're in a process where we've got a candidate to fill that role.

But how.

Long is your term?

In my term?

Is there a four year term?

Yes, I'm in my second term coming years seven.

I would be on the ballot in November of 27 if I choose to run again, which is yet to be decided.

My goal was always two terms, and it was both of my boys out of high school, and then my wife and I and kind of see where life takes us.

Three states left.

Yeah.

And then what's the what's the village's relationship to either the township or the county?

Yeah.

So we've got Washington Township that we sit in.

And three trustees, and we have a great relationship, there we really use their maintenance people, and they plow our roads, and we just kind of work hand in hand together.

So, we do a lot of our, like, if it's general maintenance or hanging up our veteran banners, you know, council myself, we'll go out and do that stuff ourselves.

So we don't really have a, a large group of employees.

Right?

We have, someone that sits in the office and does our utilities and runs, day to day operations.

We're talking with Mayor Matt Shanahan from the village.

And, Anthony, we're gonna take a break.

When we come back, I want to talk about, that first campaign.

Okay.

Right.

What were the goals when you ran office the first time?

Now, in your second term, as you wrap this up, what what are the goals for Anthony and and what do you what he kind of hopes and dreams for the future of the village?

Sure.

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It's a major Monday and we are in the village of Haggerty.

What do I do?

I'm running up to you, Kevin.

Just for a second.

Based on, our audiences wishes, I want to apologize to Matt because, it is raining today, and you can tell the mood of my two co-host is down, down, down.

I'm talking about, for those of you that don't know why you would know this, we work with, we just count up and down to ten all morning.

And I can tell by how the two of you are counting.

Yeah, the attitude is on display.

It is.

It's a low.

It's a I disagree with.

To be fair.

Yes.

I've got Caleb in my ear.

Yeah.

Counting ten, nine, eight, ten, nine, eight trying to interrupt you, but you're not listening, so.

All right, so here we are.

So.

So let's let's go back in time.

Yeah.

Your first successful campaign for mayor.

What was the campaign slogan?

Right.

You're putting signs up around town talking to you.

What did it what did it say to me?

Or I'm going to rip up the new sidewalks tonight.

Okay.

So it's the campaign was again, I mentioned that I'm not a legislative guy.

I'm I'm a customer service guy.

And so I was thinking about what does a campaign look like with that mentality.

And so I spent zero money on a campaign.

I went door to door, knocked on doors, talked to the residents, and I said, look, I'm going to run for mayor.

I'd like to tell you a little bit about myself, but before I do that, I want to know your top three issues.

You want to then in about the village, what are some you kind of like a start stop continue evaluation mentality.

What are we doing that we should stop?

What aren't we doing?

We should start.

And what are we doing?

Well, that you you want us to continue.

And I think it really kind of made people happy that I was I wanted to listen to them first before I talked about myself, because everybody goes out on a campaign trail and all they want to do is tell you about themselves for sure.

And, and there really there wasn't a lot for me to say other than, hey, I, I was a baseball coach in the village for 15 years.

I was PTO president, I live on North Street.

Really?

There wasn't it wasn't right there to town.

So I went through and I just had this notebook and I just wrote down the things that people said, and, and I won the went and won the election.

I sit down and that what I went out and that was council members one on one before our first meeting.

And the patterns arise from it must be 200 doors roughly.

Yeah.

So the patterns must have come out of that.

Yeah.

So it's funny, one of the biggest things I heard was we want a Christmas tree back in the middle of the road.

Yeah.

So for decades, right in the middle of our four corners, there's a square hole.

They put a Christmas tree up, and it became a roundabout.

And, the story goes that somebody hit it one night, fell over.

Council said that's a huge liability, and now we're not going to do it anymore.

And so we used a tree next to Village Hall.

And so the first three years of my first campaign, I was trying to figure out, yeah, how do we get this tree back?

I talked to insurance.

They kept talking about the liability.

Come on.

So then, lawyer, three.

Years into it, I'm downtown.

I'm kind of looking around and I'm like.

This is a two stop sign intersection.

What if I put two more stop signs and make it a four way stop, and I'd pitch that to Insurance Center?

Like, yes.

What did it took me three years to come up with it.

Right.

Spend it a couple hundred dollars on two more stop signs.

You put those signs up yourself.

We did, I knew it, we did.

We did it in one of the other, council members put it up.

And I just want make sure I understand the sequencing of the these questions.

The signs went up after you talked to insurance or after.

Yeah.

I think probably we'll cover your story.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So for Lucas County too and there's a lot of things I do.

And then later.

And then later we did this.

Yeah.

Mr.

mayor is the, is the mayor position a full time job?

And if not, what else do you do for a living?

No, it's it's part time.

It's what with gas prices now, it's not a I get paid about enough to.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay.

Thanks for finishing that that I can it can I finish?

Yeah.

So my full time job is I'm a warehouse supervisor for principal business enterprises.

We make adult incontinence products, right off, 75 as you go south.

And so I've been there about five years.

So when you said that you are a process person and, that it the day, the day job to organizing that.

Yep.

Is no joke.

Yep.

I manage, 17 forklift drivers over three shifts, and we are responsible for getting all the raw material to the lines to produce our product and then taking all the finished product away.

And.

Yeah, and keeping the machines fed.

How much product comes out of that facility.

Yeah.

So we, we make we move about 300,000 cases of product a. Month a month.

That's so that goes out all over.

Yeah.

Because all over the country or Canada.

And we're in the process of adding two new production lines or growing, over the next 12 to 15.

Months, family owned businesses.

It is it's a, it's a third generation started in 1961.

By the mom of Carol stocking.

And then Carol and Chuck took it over.

I served on the of board with, with Chuck stocking went to.

Chuck is a personal friend.

We we're we're working together on a couple things with Mitch.

Purchased by the great guy.

Wonderful family.

And that story is a great story.

The two of them.

He talks about his mother in law.

Yeah.

And, And what a brilliant woman.

She, I presume, was.

Forgive me if she's still with us.

And, just a smart guy, smart family and great people.

Yeah, they are, they are.

And Andy, who is the CEO now?

Chuck son.

And he's awesome to work for.

Yeah.

Chuck and Carol still come into the building often?

Nothing but handshakes and smiles and, yes, just really good, good hearted people.

Yeah.

I mean, and to work for people that serve the community in such a selfless, consistent way has got to be, you know, some somewhat, you know, a of an inspiration and a challenge to all the employees as well.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

So after I left the Boy Scouts, I went to Home Depot in their warehouse, for five years.

And, and it was I mean, they're $1 billion company, and they're, they were good to work for.

It just it just wasn't a good deal.

Right.

And so then I come over to principal business and it does feel right.

That's right.

It's it's great to walk away every day and know you're making a difference to somebody.

And I tell people all the time when they say, how do you say to community through PB it's, you know, I know that people are going to church where in our products, they feel comfortable.

They're standing outside talking to their neighbors.

They're not embarrassed.

They can take business trips.

We have caregivers who are now using a product that allows who they're caring for to sleep through the night, let them get rest and sleep through the night.

We're just making a difference.

Absolutely.

And it's it's a great feeling.

What are some of the, goals?

Back to Kevin's, question aspirations.

Your hopes for, your village.

Yeah.

So I when I, when I first came into office, I had three goals.

Get that Christmas tree back, which is I'm back now for about four years.

Check it was get us through our 150th celebration, which was last year.

Which Hannah, as you're going to talk to you, Hannah was the chair and she.

We haven't decided if we're gonna bring it on or not.

Yeah.

That's fair, that's fair.

Yeah.

We'd be lost without her.

Yeah, and it seems like it.

Yeah.

You know, she can talk more about that.

And then, downtown revitalization.

And so when my wife and I moved into the village in 2004, and at the time, we had a nice little carry out and a restaurant, and we had a gentleman who's an auctioneer had his office there, but there were 4 or 5 other buildings that were empty, and they continue to be empty.

And so we got the 150 year celebration, which again, Hannah can talk about those activities because they were awesome.

We got through that and now we have this downtown revitalization, and it's more than just the downtown.

We really focus on turn tag and revitalization.

So we got a gentleman who just put a golf simulator in his little pole barn, and it's not downtown, but it's adjacent.

Yeah.

And he's bringing people into the village.

And he, he teams up with our restaurant dogs to do, a nine and dine.

So go golf nine holes and run over to the parks.

And, we have a and mosaic artist, Gail.

She has animal house glass.

Gail is nationally known.

She has done projects, at the Nashville airport at Franklin Park Mall.

Yeah.

She's awesome.

She's brought a lot of life downtown, opening her studio for any event that we have.

And so our corner cherry out that I mentioned had closed and has been sitting empty, that it got sold on Christmas Eve.

And now we have that renovated apartments upstairs.

We have a couple other people interested now in bringing some type of business to the village.

And, and it's great just to start to see because as we heard through our 150th celebration, we heard about all this history of what used to be here.

And then it just kind of all went away and it's kind of been quiet.

And we're never going to we're never going to compete with Grand Rapids.

You're right.

It's a beautiful setting.

They've got great shops.

I got the river right there.

And that's not our goal is to compare ourselves, honey.

So just getting a little bit of life back downtown and, just to a spark.

We have, the mayors that come in, to walk us through some can't miss spots.

So at the if somebody was coming in for the day, and you wanted to keep them within the village, walk us through some can't miss things, or at least things that you wouldn't want them to leave town without experiencing.

The rooms at docks.

All right.

Dax has had multiple owners throughout the years.

Pork?

Yes.

And so it's out of the twin family assets.

But, But you are right.

So with the.

Twins, how did this happen?

Yeah.

So that's that's a great story, too.

So I get that all the time.

You're from Ohio.

Why not Cleveland or Detroit?

Well, Kirby Puckett did play.

For the Mud Hens.

And the Mud Hens used to be the farm team of the Minnesota Twins.

And so early 80s.

Yeah, I'm in second, third grade.

My best friend Ralph, his family had season tickets to the mud hands.

Yeah.

And old, Red Skelton.

And so I'd go to games with him.

Well, Ralph is the youngest of six, five sisters.

And then Ralph, well, one of his sisters started dating one of the players, Dave Ingle.

Dave then got called up to the twins.

And so now I'm going up to Detroit with them to watch the twins play.

And I got to know this baseball player.

And then in the mid 80s, the twins made a trade with the California Angels.

They brought over a rookie, Tom Vernadsky.

Tom and Dave got to be really good friends.

And the next thing you know, Tom's marrying another one of Ralph's sisters.

Okay.

And, Ralph's family is also from the Old South, and.

Yeah, off of long me.

And, so here I am growing up, and I'm talking to these Major League Baseball players, and I'm going to games and and then I'm after the games.

I'm standing outside the locker room and I'm meeting players like Kirby Puckett and Gary Gary and.

And, this is a real, blind left behind her back.

Time.

Yeah, yeah.

And so I'm standing there in awe and and it was great because it wasn't just a kid in a candy store seeing all his favorite baseball players.

Tom and Dave taught me what it what it meant to be respectful to players when asking for autographs or, yeah, having conversations and, Boundaries in space.

Yeah.

So, and it's great.

So if you remember, this is one of my favorite twin stories.

Dave Winfield used to play for the twins.

Yeah.

And, if you remember the old Mean Joe Green commercial, Coca-Cola commercial, he throws the jersey.

So I'm, a little bit older now, and I'm up at Detroit with some friends, and I'm standing outside the locker room after the game.

I've got my original jersey I get signatures on and Dave Winfield comes out and he just gets swarmed.

Yeah, people ask him for autographs and I'm kind of in the back waiting my turn.

And I hear him talk about he had family at the game and he wanted to visit with them, and then he would come back and I thought, oh, you know, give him a space.

So I go, I signed a bathroom and do what I need to do, and come back out.

And everybody's gone as I thought, all right, I missed my opportunity.

And as I'm walking away, Winfield comes out of the locker room and he says, hey, were you waiting for an autograph?

And, I turned and I said, yeah, but you said you had family.

And so I yeah, he's like, throw me your jersey.

And I felt like me, Joe, and I'm like.

Come on, kid.

And Winfield is enormous.

He's like six.

Also, I think if I get this right and we will quickly rotate, I will see you and I nerd out.

I think Dave Winfield is one of the only people who had three varsity letters, in college, does that does that resonate with you?

It doesn't, but I think you could be making stuff up.

I, I hear you do that.

Yeah, and I do.

That's right.

Okay.

Let's just.

It's not.

My.

Gretchen's.

Wacky quiz.

I'm going to ask for rapid fire questions.

Gretchen, can you describe Times Haggerty in one word?

And then you and Matt are going to describe the nine best things in or around town, talking to the other region.

All right, here we go.

Question number one.

If money was not a factor, where would you live?

Out west, probably in the Cody, Wyoming area.

What's the first thing you do when you get up in the morning?

Keep in mind, this is PBS.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I open, Pepsi.

All right.

Pepsi.

Nice.

Favorite summer activity?

It's really year round.

I am a huge disc golfer.

So I enjoy going out and throwing around a disc, which was the plan today before the rain came in.

Yep.

All right.

Do you enjoy spicy food?

I do, I do, but not overly spicy.

I don't like the flavor of the food to be taken away.

So, you know, a good jalapeno, maybe a little bit more.

Would you do well on hot wings?

I mean, hot ones that show.

No.

Okay.

What should the.

What's the one word you would use to describe the village?

Anthony.

Yeah, I put a lot of this is.

It's a tough one, but the one word homework.

Yeah.

And I say that because when we put the tree up and it's snowing and we've got all the community events going on, people have taught us over and over, this is like a hallmark movie in the aspect of when you watch a hallmark movie, you feel good.

Yeah, people are good.

And that's the feeling that we bring in the tent.

We love it.

All right.

We're going to do an equally difficult task.

Nine of your favorite things have been talking to you or even the region.

Well.

Dax.

Items.

Yeah, I'd say good schools.

Schools for.

Sure.

We have an outdoor living laboratory, the fox shank property.

And, so it's a nice little walk, and I'm sure, I, I'm biased on this one, but I did build a disc golf course in the village.

The nine hole course.

Neither part.

That's cool.

I'd say good schools.

Certainly.

Yeah.

And.

Pretty good athletics, too.

So we're going to get you there.

Yep.

And kind of knowing how this ends up, I mean, my wife and my two boys.

Yes.

So and just to people in general.

Yep.

That does it.

Oh, so nice to meet you.

Thank you for having me here.

This was great.

Appreciate you guys.

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We take a break, we come back, we're joined by Hanover Houseki, who is the chair of the 150th celebration in the village of Not Talking.

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We're joined now by the past chair of the 150th celebration, now chair of Agony Fest, Hannah Gorski.

Hannah, thank you so much for being here.

Thank you all for having me.

What, yeah.

Tell me about.

Are you are you from, the village or are you a transplant?

Have you snuck in to take over?

For Shanahan?

It's just a cool.

So this is going to sound a lot like your last story.

I am not from time to agony, and I have no political aspirations.

So you'll be the next mayor?

Yeah.

No.

So, no, actually, I am from the area.

I grew up in the area, but, my husband and I, when we were house searching in 2013, just happened to look at a house in tiny, and we were like, hey, love, we like this house.

Yeah.

And honestly, we just kind of chilled there, and just.

That was our house.

You know?

Yeah.

Where do you move from?

So we were living in Montclair at the time.

Again, because we're from the area.

But we were young.

I mean, we were just starting out.

That's a, you know, it's the first home we purchased.

Oh, fun.

But we really actually ended up not getting involved in the village until almost.

I think it was 2020.

So we just spent some time there.

Yeah.

And I've heard, the mayor used the term a couple of times.

You've already used it once that you've said targeted E. Is that often targeted?

Is that the way to sound like we're from there?

Like, if I want to be an insider, you just drop the drop.

For the first syllable.

Yes.

Yeah.

Makes it a little a little shorter.

Okay.

That's how you know, if somebody doesn't want, you can.

Identify the outsiders, because.

They use that phrase that repeatedly executed by the tree.

So, they're you just off a giant celebration.

And the three of us certainly know that those things don't happen.

By themselves, or by accident.

And it's easy to talk about the wins and losses afterwards.

The largely wins, it sounds like, but talks about the build up to 150th and all the things that, I've, we've heard that we just went so well.

So the number one thing I want to highlight is pun intended.

It took a village, right?

Like this did not happen in a vacuum.

There were so many people he mentioned.

Who's the least helpful person in the village?

I'm just kidding.

The people who didn't attend.

How about that?

Yeah.

Look right into that camera and give me the address.

Yeah.

No.

So he had mentioned Gil earlier who owns animal House glass.

Yeah.

She actually also started out with me.

She was, a co-chair.

She helped get a lot of things off the ground.

Yeah.

So we started that work in 2022 into 23, a lot of 24.

And we started out with this broad list of things that we wanted to do.

Is event planning something that's natural to you?

Is that what your day job is, or is this a little bit of a leap into a new, new space?

Event planning is a bit new.

That is not my day job.

But but being able to, you know, kind of organize things and think about the future.

Does that comes a little bit more naturally?

Yeah.

What is your day job?

So I actually work for the Toledo Lucas County Public Library.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Big friends of the show.

We have, Jason Hazzard is a dear friend of mine.

Okay.

And my colleague Allison was on a few weeks ago when.

The worst shows we've ever had.

She was just a regrettable.

And then more people want to do away with property taxes now as a result of her membership.

That's.

A tough pill to swallow.

But, Yeah.

So you and Gail were having at it, and.

So we just came up with this broad list of ideas, and then we started employing people from the village of all different ages.

I mean, truly, we have people who are approaching their 90s participating all the way down to people who were in their 20s, you know.

And so some of the.

Actually, you're outside of the range.

Right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Some of the ideas that came forward that really came to fruition that we want to highlight is we worked very closely with Bgsu to do like an oral documentary.

Yes, we.

Are.

Smart.

We have what if we built quite a few people in the village who are in their late 80s, 90s?

We even have one person that's up over 100.

Okay.

Interviewed them, put a documentary together.

We have a unsolved murder from 1895.

Made national news at the time.

And.

We did you solve it on the 150th?

We didn't, but we turned it into an interactive murder mystery event.

People love murder mysteries.

They sure do.

That's so clever.

Especially when it's a real life.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's a macabre.

True.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Are you a true crime?

I'm not.

Okay.

But it was.

We had a cast, and we kind of wrote an outline and ad libbed the entire show.

Yeah.

And it grew.

So attraction, actually, we're getting ready to do a second show.

Not related to that, but it just.

That's such that's such a huge undertaking.

Oh my gosh.

Where did you put one playing this actually solved.

Yeah.

That's what I was going to say too.

Our show is going to solve I'll say, yeah, we're going to solve that mystery.

It resulted in an indictment.

Yeah, sure.

Yeah.

Where.

Did that skit perform?

We ended up doing it at our, American Legion.

Post tour.

Because they would give us some space.

We did that.

We did, of course, the festival in August, we did a, tour.

You could get on, like, a little trolley, and we made a tour.

We did in, December, we brought back a tradition called Hymns and Brews, where we bring docs and we bring in somebody play the piano.

Everybody has some sort of beverage that is so fun.

There's like a book, and you yell out, like, let's say you wanted to hear, you know, Hark, the Herald Angels sing, and it's number 83, and someone to be like 83.

And they're belting out welcome to the jungle.

That's his favorite camp song.

Christmas music or holiday musical?

Actually, welcome to the jungle was also his favorite Christmas song.

His words, you know, the it was there, a part of the history that you had learned through this process and that you were learning about the village alongside planning it.

Is there a particularly interesting part of this or something that, resonated with you that you learned during this process.

So much about the way that our village has contributed to Wood County?

Tell us a. Little bit about that.

It's.

Come on.

Yeah.

So, you know, we used to be a very much a main thoroughfare for trains.

You know, train travels a little bit different now, you know, but we also are a very agricultural community.

Yep.

Which was a big which is a big factor.

You know, we were actually slated to be a lot more like Bowling Green.

In the 1860s or, you know, or so.

But ultimately, needless to say, Bowling Green ended up being the larger entity.

But that was really interesting to learn about in the 1860s and into the early 1870s.

And the Wood County Fair was hosted in town.

Talk.

Okay.

You know, we don't actually become a municipality officially until 1875, but the property where the Wood County Fair was hosted is now actually the functioning property.

So you are now so you off of your success with 150th, you now become the chair of Agony Fest.

What?

What is this?

So.

Have you done.

Yourself?

Yeah.

to let you stop doing this now.

Yeah.

So Agony Fest is an on grouping, ongoing group of individuals.

They put on a festival every year long before 150th.

But we end up collaborating on a number of things.

And there were some people who said, you know, we've been doing this a long time.

We like to step away.

Are you interested in and joining this group so that we can kind of, you know, that's.

How they get you.

And, yeah.

Yeah.

They're like, we're leaving.

And I said, well, I'm certainly open to this conversation, but I want you to know that I also have a really enthusiastic group of people.

Yeah.

And I would like to bring some of them with me.

And they said, by all means.

And so what a wonder.

I mean, we all have, some experience and things just like this.

Although nothing I've ever done.

But is this successful?

No.

But, that doesn't always mean that I'm sure there's some bumps in there that we don't need to highlight, but that is the welcoming experience to the mayor's comment about hallmarking.

And, this is a really positive, wonderful thing.

And it isn't always that easy.

So I'm going to testament to your town.

To even Gail's leadership.

Certainly the mayor's, attitude is probably contagious, meaning this is a village of 400 people, applicants protesting the census.

I don't know if you heard that.

But that's a wonderful.

That's a wonderful part of the story.

That shouldn't be just, blown over.

Yeah.

That's wonderful.

When is Tiny Fest?

It's an annual event.

It is?

Tell me about this year's.

When is it?

And what can be excited about.

So it's like August 14th through 16th.

I think it's usually mid August.

To be honest, we just had our large fundraiser towards the end of March and we've.

Taken a break.

Yeah, we have our bands lined up.

We're doing, north of Nashville as our primary band on Saturday night.

They're great.

Yes.

And then, we're doing Arctic Clam on Friday night as well.

But other than that, we're still kind of working out a lot.

Details.

But, you know, it's always a fun event.

And is it in the downtown area?

Sort of like on the streets?

Yeah.

That's cool.

Aside from that, the other project that we're working on, not in conjunction with the festival and again, the 150th, I'll call it Commission, if you will, has kind of wrapped up we because our first show became so popular, we decided to come back with a second show.

I love this.

And, we're calling it.

But what if it it's kind of this revision of what if some of these things had happened?

And so we talked about bowling Green.

Right.

But what if the Wood County Fair had never left and Haggerty would probably be a lot more like Bowling Green.

Kind of.

Who is creating this.

And it's a lot of work and an overwhelming amount of creativity.

Is it improv?

Is it scripted?

Is a combination of both.

Wow, this is brilliant.

This is a team effort.

We have a really creative group of individuals.

Sounds like it.

We don't have that on this show.

How do we.

How do we embrace that sentiment?

Harsh.

Yeah.

You're right.

Yeah.

Come watch the show for sure.

You know, it's.

Moses.

But truly.

Yeah.

You know, we just.

It was an idea.

Takes off and we start talking about it.

You know, I'm not in the show.

They kind of tease me, the producer, because I'm the person.

That line I do like.

Can we have you produce our show?

Our producer Shane.

I wish was the.

I wish he was the person murdered in the murder mystery.

Matthew.

I wish the mystery was good.

He's.

Or he could be the murderer and be in prison.

I'm okay with it.

Can you help producers?

What if you know what?

But what if.

What if that would be.

What if dreams come true, right?

If he was.

Murdered.

So, Hannah, obviously, you know, we're spending the day in to Anthony kind of talking about the village.

What, what's something that people that.

I mean, whether you learn 350th or just from having lived there.

What's something that people don't understand about that question?

That that you you want to say, let me let me sort of set the record straight, or maybe make sure people really understand what is or who is the village.

So one of the things that I thin people often don't think about is the true sense of community that we have.

You know, you hear people talk about their community in in positive ways, right?

You know, but this is the only place that I've ever lived where I truly know.

I'm not kidding when I tell you that I could pick up my phone and call.

I don't know how many people four, five, six, seven people and say, hey, I don't have an egg.

Can I walk to your house and get an egg?

Yeah, I'm out of flour or, you know, we don't want to think about these days, but the even worse day.

You know, I had an incident with my dog, and he ended up passing and it was sad, but I. I picked up my phone, and I called one of my friends, and I said, can you please help me?

My husband is not home.

And that person was at my door.

Yeah.

You know, and I just think what an incredible experience to be able to live in a place where I can truly pick up my phone and say, I need help, but but it's returned, right?

Because we've gotten calls.

My husband's gotten calls.

Can you help me with this?

I'm stuck.

You know, and you get to know so many people we know.

You know, we know a plumber and we know the fire chief, and we know an auctioneer like we, you know, you know, all these people.

And it just I think it's something that often gets lost in a very, fast paced metropolis.

Like connected but not connected.

Reality.

I'm trying to think about what kind of tragedy would would happen that you would need.

The fire chief, a plumber and an auctioneer.

That's the new play right there.

Yeah.

Well, you're not far off.

Yeah, because most of them are involved.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

And so there you go.

But, But I've heard that I've heard the term casserole community, right?

That like, a tragedy happens and everybody shows up at you over the casserole, right?

Like, that's.

Kind of the that's it.

We're we're here to help.

That's a very popular thing.

That's right.

Thank you.

But I think that's I mean, certainly I've had that experience with my wife's grandparents, living there that, you know, they'll tell the story all the time about.

They'll see something, you know, out of the ordinary across the street or whatever, or some of you see some of their house pick up the phone and call, and everybody's just there for each other.

Absolutely.

What?

You know, obviously, maybe a. Little bit about the.

But what can you.

Yeah, sure.

Without without telling us too much.

But what if can you tell us a little bit about what people can, be looking forward to?

Sure.

So it's a series of shorter skits.

So last year it was more like a traditional.

You had a first act and a second act, and it was like one continuous show.

Yeah.

And but this year it's six shorter skits, still about the same run time.

But we kind of again, take this like almost alternate reality.

This is awesome.

The first one is kind of a brief but entertaining rehashing of our history.

Just because we do feel like you need some knowledge, you know?

Yes.

Understand?

Yeah.

So then we, you know, what if.

Well, we probably would have a university.

So we are the Haggerty State University Skeeters, after all the blacks.

Yes.

Yes.

So there's a whole of it.

This is really.

Cool.

Yeah.

You're coming with that?

Yes.

What if, then we look at our founding fathers in 1875 as their building laws, because we do know that a couple of the ordinances that they passed.

Right.

So there's a series of guys that are debating these laws and, but will these laws matter in the future?

You know, because they're things like, you know.

500 women can't live in this house.

Kind of.

Yeah.

Just very.

Like, you know.

And then we have a couple more truly just ad libbed things of this.

Yeah.

This is fascinating to me.

But then, we have a more formalized sketch.

So in 1984, Ronald Reagan came through on his whistle stop tour for his campaign, and he did not stop and hunt horny.

But he came through.

With a trickle down to you.

Yes.

Yeah.

Nice one.

Yeah.

Thank you.

A quick plug for the library.

Tell us something great is happening.

What branch are you at?

We're so proud of, we just kind of library, as I'm sure you are as well.

Give us a quick plug.

Yes.

So I am actually based out of the Holland branch.

So what is exciting is that we are getting to be getting ready to be renovated.

Yes.

Yes.

Doing a massive renovation.

All right.

And I love.

Thank you for being here.

People want more information on Target Fest or on.

But what if where can they find it?

So, Targeting Fest is actually just called tagging fest.

Ontogeny Fest on Facebook.

Okay.

And then tent Agony Revitalization is also on Facebook.

And that's where you can find information on our but what if show.

Sweet awesome I will I'm coming to this.

It's fantastic.

You can't be in so much.

You're welcome.

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