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It's a special Presidents Day edition of the 419, a may or Monday Presidents Day edition of the 419th century.

Yeah.

Yeah, absolutely.

I'm Kevin Mullen, alongside.

Gretchen Debacker.

And I kill them.

So we want to do something a little a little different today i celebration of President's Day.

We've, you know one of our recurring segments.

Every Monday, we welcome o a mayor from around the region, and get a chance to kind of take a tour of different cities through the eyes of their elected leader.

And so we're going to do a kind of throwback and go back and revisit some of our favorite conversations with some of our favorite mayors.

And we're doing it because, you know, it's it's President's Day.

So what better way to do that?

And also a sort of a darkhorse, if you will, in terms of segment favorites, I've had multiple people tell me tha that is actually their favorite.

Maybe there is anything else positive about the show, but they are enjoying that.

And having a group of passionate people come in and talk about anything is relatively contagious, but people talking about their hometow is, yeah, pretty, pretty nice.

Doing a great job setting those up.

Yes.

Thank you.

Well, we talked about thi like the the mayor role is not is not one that someone takes for themselves.

Yeah.

Right.

Mayor Will and that being a mayor of the city and the police chief of the city, I think are probably two very difficult non chosen jobs.

A lot of.

Times you said well thought out, kind of like yeah sure, sure.

Filibuster.

Yeah.

Really nailed it.

Hey.

Curious as we celebrate President's Day.

Yeah.

Who's the president that you're celebrating most today?

Like who's who's your favorite?

Former president.

Probably Barack Obama.

I'm not surprised by that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

If you had to go, like old school president, who's the, The New Deal guy.

But a story?

Yeah.

FDR.

There you go.

Yeah, there it is.

Oh my.

Goodness.

Matt.

Matt, how about you?

Gil Smith.

He's ahead of the enemy.

He's the president of the Anime Association.

Okay.

Yeah.

Let's.

If we had to limit it to the US president.

Oh.

Taft.

Yeah, I like my leaders.

Big, and and.

We're short names.

That's right.

Yeah.

Thank you.

And easy.

He's a husky guy.

I like the idea of leaders being in office.

Okay.

Yeah, and I don't imagine that guy was, you know, wandering around.

Wasn't, wasn't seemed.

Lik a sedentary president or, like.

And right there in the chair.

Perfect.

Yeah.

What about you, Kevin?

I so I remember, girl, like, the first time I really paid attentio to a presidential election was, was George Bush.

1 or 2?

Two.

Okay.

Now, George Bush one I paid attention to because my great aunt, growing up won Barbara Bush lookalike contest.

You're kidding.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Wow.

I can't believ we've got this deep in the show and not mentioning.

Where are you?

Why isn't she.

Yeah.

Why is she leadin the show?

Well, she passed away.

Thanks, Gretchen.

Still no excuse?

Yeah, we've.

Got it right here in the, The van.

Oh, my.

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Hey, welcome back to the 419 and we are talking with Waterville Mayor Tim Pedro.

I've got a quick question for you, mayor, is you, can you tell me your favorite fictional mayor in the history of fictional mayors?

I can't think like I can't think of a fictional name.

The mayor of Gotham.

Mayor.

Mickey's mayor.

Mickey.

Oh, that's a real person, too.

Well, you got me.

You stumped me on that.

I could I. Got 17 minutes to feel, brother, so.

I can deviate a little bit for that.

Do it.

My, recollection when I decided to run for village council.

Young, And got involved, I got a hold of our mayor at the time, Dave Michaels.

And, gave he gave me some some tips, but then as I got into the campaign I remember him telling me, Tim, you were new to the community.

He said, don't run for one issue.

Sometimes people get involved.

There's just one thing that really, are excite about, positive or negatively.

And they run.

They get in there and the realize they're one vote, right?

And so Dave said, just run with, the idea you're going to have a lot of opportunity.

And that stuck with me over these years.

Dave Meyer.

I have to tell you that, if I can expand upon that jus a little bit, it is refreshing.

Any time anyone starts out a conversation and discriminative the core of it, they talk about what they ar as opposed to what they are not.

There's sort of the essence of the show, right?

When you ask people what they're interested in or things of that price, sometimes they talk about things are not interested in.

I'm like, that's not what I asked you.

So, that that resonates with me.

But I also when Tim, when you and I met, you know, it was through the Orego Economic Development Foundation.

In your work out there, I was working at a Cardinal Stritch at the time, and, people referred to Tim as the mayor of Waterville.

And I did not, like, realize that that was actually his title.

Like, I just thought that was more of a a term of respect or just the way he carried himself.

You know, here' a guy that lives in Waterville that knows every represented.

Naturally, he' the mayor of Waterville.

Yeah.

And then it was years later, I mean, I an entire an embarrassing amount of time.

Oh my gosh.

That's the kind.

Of cutting edg thinking that made this.

Show.

Yeah.

And.

You know, you talk about, you know, you don't run for a single issue.

And I think it's because you realize that, you know, communitie are more complicated than that.

But obviously at various times, in your tenure as mayor, different issues are going to pop up and be the hot button issue that everybody wants to know about that everybody has an opinion on.

And right no it seems like that that moment, that conversation right now is around data centers.

Admittedly, somebod who doesn't live in Waterville.

I feel fairly confident that they're not going to put make plans to put a data center in West Toledo.

And so there's some of the out of sight, out of mind for me, that I don't pay as much attention to it.

Can you can I explain to me what is the conversation?

What is the you know what what's what's going on?

Right.

I'd like to take a step back because the kind of a cycle, when was, first moved to the village, the, topic then was the 24 bypass.

That was very, very, much in the center of news.

A lot of meetings, a lot of ideas.

And they came t some resolution, and we have 24.

The next one was a, development just outside the village limits and there was a lot of, issues with that very, much in the news.

And we they talked about it and they got through it.

We had an amphitheater a couple of years ago.

I'd say the market played itself out.

We have no, we have no data center or.

Excuse me, no amphitheater.

Today.

We have the data centers.

I mentioned this to the community.

I believe Waterville does not have the space to house a data center.

A few of us, including the fellow council member and our administrator, we went to New Albany.

There's other places that have data centers and talk to the city leaders there and get.

I got a feel for what's there.

So we're trying to bring information back to citizens.

We're talking about 4 or 500 acres.

Yeah, that that was that.

That's even even, like six and 700 acres.

We just don't have that in our community.

So a lot of folks think that that could be a data center.

And and honestly, I don't think industry would support that.

Now, having said that, we are aware in our neighborhood, Waterville Township, my Clover and my Clover township, rather there is some talk about a data center there.

So actually, as we sit here today, there's no plans to have a data center in Waterville, Ohio.

We did pass a moratorium back in December for six months.

And the reason for that was just to give all of us a chance to go to New Albany or wherever and learn about them.

But honestly, I just I don't see it happening.

What you mentioned, you know, 24 and obviously you're going to have people that you know, are see i and say, hey, I'm excited about, you know, helpin move people through our region.

And folks say, I don't wan a highway in my backyard, right.

And so all of these issues and you say that you've gotten through all of them.

What has been consistent for you in in your process of approaching something like this?

You mentioned you know, visiting New Albany.

I mean, is it is it community meetings?

Is it, you know, hang out at Biggby coffee and and chat with, you know, the folks in your community.

I think it's a combination of all those things.

But at the end of the day, we got to talk about things.

These things.

And one of the reason why the moratorium was passed was there was so much, controversy and noise.

We just couldn't hav a conversation, and and I'm okay if someone wants a data center or doesn't want it, but we need to be respectful of how you communicate it.

And I think those, folks know who they are, and they've crossed the lin and you lose some credibility.

On the other hand, we got some, solid people that don't want.

And they give factual information.

We gotta deal with the facts.

My predecessor, Lauri Brody, told me on her way out.

Tim, there's going to be a lo of lot of, items on your agenda.

You got to separate the motion and deal with the facts.

And I try to do that.

I'm human.

Sometimes I, bust, myself, but recognize it, own it, and then move on.

It's a good mantra.

What?

As you look to the future of Waterville.

What are your som some of your big plans and goals for that community?

So, I'm glad you brought that up, because I'm preparing my remarks for our meeting, January 20th with the Chamber of Commerce.

But you provide all of them right now.

Right now, I going to.

Get to a. Very early.

But I can tell you just take again, take a step back.

Our community.

If you go back to the bypass and now you go with the Gordie Howe Bridge, which is going to open up momentarily.

You got traffic coming down 75 to Toledo and then me down to Findlay o over to defiance, to Fort Wayne.

We are at the hub of that development.

We need to be prepared for that kind of activity.

And I think we are with a land use plan.

We, we, partnered with totally a look at the county port authority recently, a couple years ago.

They purchased some land and ou adjacent to our business park, where our friend Nick Kaufman has a business and Surface Combustion and others.

And they are helping to develop that.

We have, some other space on 24 and 64 that will probably become, developed soon.

And we've had Meyer, grocery store bought property probably 20 years ago.

They just announce they broke ground, if you will.

In November, I believe.

And that's going to be happening.

And so that intersection is going to grow.

We got great housing.

We got great stock.

We got builders, developers that do a quality project.

Pride, pride homes for for our community.

And, I believe that, we we have balance.

We try to balance things.

So back to circl back to your original question.

We got to sit down, talk about these things.

And, the land us plan is one of those, outlines where if we're going to have some industrial businesses, they're turned over in this corner.

If we're going to have homes or short over in this corner.

Now, they're all it'll be exceptions.

But we got to talk about it.

I like the idea that, you know, at the end of the day, we're going to be neighbors.

Right?

It's, you know, we ca we can disagree on this thing, but the reality is in in 18 months, in 18 years, we're going to see each other, you know, walking down the aisle of a grocery store.

And we've got to live together, so.

Well, that's the good news is, based on your leadership, there's not going to be two major grocery stores.

That it.

Will cut down on the potential running into.

You know, one other segue in that.

Again, it goes back, you you got to do a scorecard.

But we in the community, we have a cooperative effort with, white House, our neighbor down the road, Waterville Township.

During Covid of all times, we started a fire co-op.

Basically, it was the two communities, including Waterville, had.

All of your arsonists together.

Yeah.

Got together and say, how can we plan this?

Because we don't.

Do we need two ladder trucks, right?

We need three of this and the training.

So that's well on its way.

Additionally, we have a cemetery district.

And we came together as, the region of communities to work together, and it's very successful.

So we are doing those things already.

I've been talking with our community members, and Waterville Township and the village went out.

How could we be more cooperative?

Well, I don't just mean I don't.

We are going to do an entire show to cemetery district, so I don't want to talk too much about that.

But you have brought in true Tim Pedro passion.

Yes.

You have brought a cornucopia.

Yes.

Of, We also demand.

Gifts of items from your beloved, of Waterville.

So walk us through what you brought up and the story behind it.

First of all I want you to know we have great coffee shops at Waterville, and I'm drinking out of the Waitrose coffee cup.

But in here is Biggby Coffee.

Great family business right in the water.

I'm gonna take a sip right now.

Okay, good.

Just take a minute.

I noticed you didn't bring any from for us.

Well, easy, Gretchen.

Additionally.

Foreign liquids.

I want you to know that I brought along some items that, we're proud.

And then we have Buffalo Rock, which is a brewery, owned by, two brothers and their friend that started this.

This was an old, gas station.

Excuse me?

An old car wash that was dilapidated for many years.

These guys rehabbed it.

I've never I've never been more excited for more ca washes in our region than I am.

Yeah, we've seen buffalo.

Rocks transitioned into.

That's right.

Very nice.

And and I brought some samples of Buffalo Rock, brewery beer.

I know you can't have it till noon, but.

It's there for the.

Like a river fog, I love it.

It's.

And then the other thing is we we have a very, cool business in Waterville.

It's really cool.

Craft studio.

Yes.

Now, George and Deb, they have moved on, but the, current ownership continues to make products like this.

It's really a tourist attraction.

It is.

It is a destination, for sure.

And, we've got a showroom.

You can buy them online, but, crew studio.

There is a radio portion of this, of course.

Tim.

So can you talk a little bit about what they make and what they're known for?

So, George Carruth and his wife started the business many years ago, and they have, various stones, if you will.

George will commission 1 or 2 pieces of the year.

But if you go out there, there's all kinds of, memorabilia like this for your homes in the sundials and it's it's it's a great they're all.

Right.

All over the country.

And in no relatio to the murdering wide receiver.

No, I don't know.

You're righ that you're.

Right that we know.

That's right.

We don't.

Yeah.

Allegedly.

Am I using that right?

This Carruth, is is a destination.

And it is a big part of gift ideas.

It's truly doin all.

Kinds of unnecessary thing.

Yeah.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

It's incredible.

Additionally.

Oh, boy.

Additionally, we have, I didn't bring the whole cigar box, but 33 cigars in downtown Waterville.

Now, in itself it's just a great place to go.

Buy some cigars or enjoy some refreshment.

But John Henry and his team they give back to our community.

So often, they help run the, th various festivals in downtown, with rotary and roots and blues and and Oliver Hazard.

We have a great we have a great program.

Back.

There on tour to go on.

Yes.

To Europe.

Yeah.

So that's another piece of our rock.

I got a couple more okay.

Oh my.

Goodness.

All right.

We got it.

We got to mov because I also want to get you with our 419 quick right.

In front was a cocktail lounge.

I brought you something for there.

And I can look you.

Can go right from Carrut and then have lunch or dinner.

You can.

And the other thing is they just announced, I was with Josh yesterday.

They just announced a brand new menu that they're going to be, put down as of yesterday.

And I want you to have that.

Thank you.

Additionally.

Kevin, you're the lead here.

Cut this guy off.

We can spend that.

We could spend all day talking about our.

But.

But we got to put you on the hot seat.

We got great chamber cameras.

Come out and enjoy Waterville.

I love it, I love it.

Mayor Tim Pedro from Waterville.

Thank you.

All right, it's time for Gretchen's wacky quiz.

I'm going to ask you for rapid fire questions.

All right?

Gretchen's going to ask you your favorite thin in the region.

And Matt's going to have you describe the region in nine words.

What's your favorite Halloween costume, Bozo.

Love it.

What was the worst purchase you've ever made?

My second Bozo costume.

Pair of shoes.

That I thought fit.

But they don't.

Don't.

That's not too bad.

What's something you would not do for $5 million?

Nothing.

If I had money.

That's a lot of money.

Yeah, we said off camera.

Yeah, yeah.

I think I'm, I think I do about anything.

Put the five money aside.

I'm willing to take a chance or risk.

I would study it.

I would try and analyze it.

So I don't have an answer for you in there.

You've already answered.

You could be born.

Are you more of a morning person or a night owl?

Morning.

What is your number one favorite thing about, northwest Ohio region or Waterville?

Honestly, the Waterville, River, mommy River and the peace when I get, rallied up with a lot of noise, sir, I go down to the river.

I might tell my wife I'm going down the river this summer.

I thought the water was so low.

I would walk out into the river with my little stool from the LPGA, tournament.

I sit there and just chill out.

I love it.

Brought to you by your Metroparks.

All right, nine words to describe Waterville or your region.

We've got to roll through and fast.

All right, so you do tell me the words that describe the region to you.

We need nine.

Safe.

Good.

Keep going.

Education system.

Good.

Third community.

Spirit.

Yes.

Willingness to succeed.

Yep.

Volunteers.

Great.

Community members step up to, to do the job.

No.

Whether these are one words.

Keep going.

All right.

I think we hav we have, decent we have these.

We have a good governance.

Good governance.

Step two more.

We're a welcoming community.

Absolutely welcoming.

Love it And it's a desirable community.

Desirable thing That's nice.

Mayor, thank you.

So much for being.

Here from Waterville, Ohio.

Mayor, thank you so much for taking the time with us.

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Welcome back into the 419.

It's a mayor Monday edition, and we're talking with the mayor of defiance, Mike McCann.

As we were getting ready for this program, Mike, I had the opportunity to talk to, Erica from, economic development, with defiance.

I talked with the team at the chamber.

I talked to the, director of the Defiance Community Foundation.

This prep.

I talked to folks from Defiance College.

And every single one of.

Them resigned after that conversation.

Every single one of them said the same thing.

You're going to love talking to mayor McCann.

And so there must be two is.

Yes.

Is there a different one?

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You've got a great team.

Not just within the city, but but kind of surrounding you in the community.

What are the things that you're, as you look to the future of defiance?

What are the things, you know next year, the year after that, you're you're most excited about that, that you're working on?

We have spectacular people in our community.

And all those folks you just outlined are people.

At any time I can pick up the phone or or my assistant can make an arrangement for me to go sit down and say, hey, I've got this idea or this idea, or I should say, this idea was presented to me there in all my ideas.

There's a lot of people and, you know, you just.

The good.

Ones.

Yeah.

You plagiarize, you visit a city and you say, that's pretty cool, we need to do that.

And then you hear about things, but they all are good.

And, you know, I got to go in there.

I forgot what the question was.

What you're most excited about, things that are coming down the pike that you guys are working on.

Yeah.

So we completed a, a, comprehensive plan for our city a few years ago with that comprehensive plan called for us.

And you're going to like this.

Matt called for us to do a Parks and Riverfront master plan.

So we have three rivers in defiance.

The Miami, the all glaze, which is the council on for Anthony Wayne build for it.

And then we have the tiffi that comes down from the north.

So we have those three rivers and we've done nothin to capitalize on those rivers.

Nothing.

They're just there.

In fact, since I've been mayor, we cleaned off the riverbanks a little bit.

So people, when they're going down the road, can can see the rivers and they're going, wow, that's pretty cool.

I didn't even know there was a river there.

Yeah.

So, we've completed a parks and riverfront master plan.

It was almost a two year deal and a lot of input from the community, which I really appreciated people input.

And when I say the community I think, Kevin, it's important to to note that we encourage people from around the city, the suburbs, if you will, to to offer input because they're there.

They may not live in the city, but they're part of our city.

They shop there, they work there, and they do all those things.

So there are there are contributor and they deserve some input.

So we really want to get going on this Parks and Riverfront master plan.

But as I mentioned a minute ago, we're sort of pausing things right now until this propert tax deal works its way through.

We just it would be irresponsibl out of the budget or why would you go for a property tax levy to help do things in your parks if property taxes are going to be eliminated?

So until we work through that in November.

Not to mention that devastating effect you would have t your police fire all of those.

911 Sheriff's office, library, public school.

That's exactly right.

And the city would lose eight $900,000 in in property tax inside millage ourselves.

That's not devastating.

We can overcome that.

But while we don't dominates 911 right.

So who's going to answer the phone when you need fire rescue all those things.

So that that that's one of the that's really what keeps me up worrying about that.

And I think it'll work out because because I have to say, when people stop me in the grocery store or wherever and say, Mr.

McCann, would you explain to me this property tax thing and the impact and you, you talk through it with them They go, oh, I don't want that.

You know, it's right that.

Nobody likes paying those taxes.

Nobody does.

Yeah.

But you're going to pay for it.

They want the police to come when they, when they're called to.

Meet.

Lucas County defiance and a lot I, I one of these days I'm gonna get a map out all the all the counties that border another state Michigan, Indiana, Kentucky, West Virginia, Pennsylvania you know, all around the state.

You live in a border state, and we raise sales tax to 17% or whatever, right?

I'm gonna go to Fort Wayne right.

And other people are gonna do the same thing.

You know, they're just going to run across the border to buy whatever and get that break on taxes.

So speaking of of that issue in particular, and, and working with our, our friends and in the Ohio Legislature, what what do you do with your neighbor mayors to, to approach the legislature?

Are you involved in the U.S.

Conference of Mayors?

Is there a local Ohio mayor group like ho how do you guys all coordinate, what your messages and lobbying on issues like Ohio municipally?

Oh, MLL, has great groups for mayors.

They have great groups for law directors.

They have great group for administrators.

And they, they you go to that when you talk.

And, you know, we've got good legislators from our area, not only the ones that that I vote for that are in our area, but even the ones that are around us.

You can talk to them even though they don't represent you, you can talk to them.

I think we all get it.

We do.

If if it makes it to the ballot, we're just going to have to talk more about it like we're talking today.

And I talked to the Rotary Clu and different things like that.

This is about hearkening bac to our conversation about facts.

Information is at the core of it.

People don't have an understanding of what all of this funds.

And there isn't.

Okay.

Then what?

Right, right.

There isn't a cogent plan replacement of it.

And, you know, I think everybody is it doesn't want to pay more taxes.

We've got we've got an old school building in defiance, right, right at the end of Main Street the 1918 building built in 1980.

And it was going to get torn down and it I didn't want to se that happen, at least not now.

And so we took ownership of it, which I don't know that maybe it would be a little bit of a Seward's Folly type thing, but but that all worked out I guess.

So it might work out, but I just say that people say, Mike why don't you just tear it down?

And I say, okay, then what?

Come after we tear that building down?

What are we going to do.

Because too often and I've seen where things have gone away and you say to yourself man I wish we had that back.

That back.

Yeah.

We desperately need more hotel space in the city.

The more hospitality that school would make.

A neat little boutique hotel.

And we just got to find the right developer.

We, we trying to do that during Covid which was I like that thought process though.

Like if you needed that land for something right then let's use it.

Right.

If the thing we're going to do with it is better than what we have, but if we don't have a plan for it, just getting rid of it for the sake of getting rid of it right?

Doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

We don't need it.

We don't know the cost to maintain.

It's minimal.

We have to mow.

We have to shovel sidewalks.

But we'd have to do that when the building was there or not.

I don't do that.

My house.

Don't think that's a mess.

Mayor, tal to me a bit about the college.

Defiance College?

I 400 students is my understanding.

You know, a little over that, you know, struggling, like a lot of small schools.

Great leadership present.

Maggie.

She and I actually took office on the same day.

Oh.

You're kidding.

No, no.

So she's become a good friend.

I'm actually on the board of trustees at the college.

I suppose in the interest of full disclosure, we'll.

Brag about wha Defiance College is known for.

I know about a little bit.

Well, you know, they've alway produced great school teachers.

Many of them taught me when I was in school and taught our kids, and now our teaching our grandkids.

And they're not to blame for what you become.

No.

Absolutely not.

I, I, I credit them for all the good things.

So.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But so I this this year, not last year, 2025 was my 50th high school.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

For that ten year.

Two years.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But, you know.

So great school teachers, law enforcement.

That's right.

They, they, they produce people in law enforcement.

They're there to look, accountants, they, social workers.

And we need social workers.

Yes, sir.

And so, that's what they do.

And it's a great libera arts school, and people get all hair on fir when they hear the word liberal.

But that's not what a liberal arts school is necessarily.

So they they do a great job educating young people out there.

It's a it's a wonderful, safe campus.

It's fun to go on campus.

It is because it's such a neat environment.

And all the young folks are enthusiastic, love taking a college kid, with my wife to a lunch or dinner and just talk to them about their experience.

And that liberal arts.

Obviously, it means a full, pantheon of, of courses and things that you have to take.

So there is a, there's a law enforcement, part that is certainly something to be proud of.

And there is a good music theater in front of it, too.

So truly a spectrum of things.

And one of my favorite Defiance College alums, keeps a little looks kind of beautiful is Adam.

Cassie.

Yeah.

Oh, that's right.

How about that?

There you.

Go.

All right, we've got, about five minutes left.

Perfect time.

Which means it's the perfect time for us to launch and do Gretchen's wacky quiz.

That's not the name that we're.

We're.

It's not.

The man.

I don't know why they keep saying that.

Yeah.

That's not.

We've tried to workshop several other names.

Workshop is.

Generous.

Oh, that's.

That's the one that.

See, there we go.

You got an endorsemen from the mayor.

We'll take it.

All right.

All right, I'm going to fir for rapid fire questions at you.

Gretchen's going to ask you for your favorite thing.

And we say in the region, but we're talking about defiance.

What's your favorite thing in defiance?

And then Matt is going to as you to describe your community in nine words.

You can just list them off, but I'll work with you.

Don't panic.

Or you could do haiku, whatever.

That's right.

All right.

You don't have to do that.

All right, her we go.

For rapid fire questions.

What's a word that you have a hard time pronouncing?

You know, I didn't used to, But just yesterday.

What was it?

We were in a meetin talking about water and sewer.

Exciting meeting.

I don't know.

You know, I don't do too bad.

All right.

Well, I can't pronounce it.

Yeah, so we'll skip that one.

Okay.

So.

Where will you be one year from today?

At work in the mayor's office.

Usually get there about seven.

Meet with Ryan Mack, city administrator Kim Sprague, the finance director.

Law director comes in a little bit later.

Yeah.

All right.

Enjoying every minute of it.

If you could be any superhero, who would you be and why?

Buck Rogers.

Buck Rogers.

Great answer.

I read a lot of his those comic books when I was in school.

So, yeah, that's the one I remember.

I mean, Spider-Man's cool, Superman's cool.

That's cool.

Yeah, yeah.

What's the last question?

What's the one thing you've always wanted to do?

Oh.

You know, everything I've ever wanted to do, I've always tried to do.

When I was a young kid, I used to go out to the airpor and clean air, clean airplanes.

And, I always wanted to learn to fly one, so I did.

I've never had a desire to jump out of one skydive my granddaughter did recently, and I was a mess until it was over.

Yeah, she had fun.

Yeah, sure.

Not been to Europe yet?

Italy.

Some of our kids have gone, and they rave about it.

We did go to Irelan once, and, had a had a Guinness at McCann pub on the.

They pronounce McCann McCann over there.

And we didn't.

Bring that.

Up.

No.

Yeah, yeah.

What's your number one favorite thing or most special thing about defiance.

Just the fact that I know, you know everybody and everybody knows you, and they're not afraid to come up and talk to me.

And, you know sometimes they don't always have the greatest things to talk about.

But that's my job to deal with the bad, with the good.

But it's mostly good.

Good.

All right.

Nine words.

Great place to live.

There's five right there.

Yeah.

Work.

Play, raise a family.

Then we'll take them all.

Take them off.

Yep, yep.

Well done.

You know what a place so great you had to give it ten.

That's right.

Nine is not a nine.

Gretchen, you know, has has had a, some, some work in the political space, and cosmetic surgery.

I noticed that she scribbled down.

What I did.

Make a note.

Needs to be your next.

This is your slogan.

I would be interested to kno what your campaign slogan was, but mine is Mike McCann.

Can.

My first campaign was McCann.

Can.

McCann will see.

And that's the one that didn't work.

No, that.

No, I didn't have anything.

Matt.

I mean, I like I said nobody told me about yard signs.

Yeah.

You just think, well you throw your name out there and people say, yeah, I know that guy.

We'll vote for him.

But it didn't.

Work.

When I ran for student government in college at mine was back or back her.

I like that.

So this was a good thing.

This has been.

Going on for.

30 years.

Was the show.

That was my first one.

I don't know what my second.

Oh goodness.

Gracious.

Third, I don't I don't remember.

This is winning.

You got so.

Much.

Thank you I appreciate the time.

Everybody who said we'd enjoy the time with you was.

It was really, really.

Fun.

Anyway, thanks.

To Mike McCann, the mayor of defiance.

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Welcome back into a mayor Monday edition of the 419.

We're talking with the mayor of Fremont, Ohio, Mayor Danny Sanchez.

Mayor, right before the break, you had said that you you had a conversation with your kids and asked the about spending a day in Fremont.

I'm curious what, what their answer is.

Actually, let me jump in.

The other question you you mentioned during the brea it was your son and girlfriend, based o when you had your first child, one of the rule of the household is everything.

Is everything well lit?

You have to sit in front of, you know, doors.

Yeah.

Is there not a door lock in the house?

So a lot of a lot of a lot of, what I would say, real conversation.

Yes, sir.

I bet.

I believe in, you know, I live my life the same way home as I do in the public.

We live in a glass house.

Like I always say.

Listen, I got to tell you the ugly truth.

And not a pretty lie, you know?

And, yeah, doors are open.

No one's allowed over one.

We're not one.

One.

We're we're not.

Oh, you're armed.

Yeah.

Know.

Yeah.

You know, you.

Know the.

Judge.

And you need to always treat her with respect.

Yes, sir.

Yeah.

And, and if you don't respect yourself you're not going to respect her.

So you gotta respect yourself.

So just real just, you know, you just try to morals and values and things.

And I had those things growing up.

But, you know, we all make choices and and, at the.

Side, it was a choice.

The sweater was a choice Yeah.

It's a beautiful sweater.

In fact, this this pink jacket was a choice.

Yeah.

And it's also very.

It's both good ones.

Yeah.

That's right.

But I do want to talk about their answer for it.

So tell me about that from their view a day in Fremont.

So, they said you know, we, that he said that, but winter or the summer, I said, whatever you want.

People love that first.

What's your boy's name?

His name is Daniel.

We call them boogie, though.

All right.

Boogie.

Yeah, I love it.

How come I don't?

Well, he never walked out.

Never.

When he was a kid, his first steps were running.

Yeah.

So, we just called him.

We call him Boogie.

Ever since he's a little.

I have a nickname, too, if you're interested in it, but it's, Is it can we say with FCC regulation?

Absolutely.

It's, it's beef.

So people know me as bee mayor Danny or Officer Sanchez.

So I was fat when I was a baby, and growing up, I was really thin.

And, the Wendy's commercial.

Where's the beef?

Yeah.

Apparently, whenever that commercial came on I would just take off running.

So I was scared of that.

Of, of.

The lady.

Of the lady.

Yeah.

And, so growing up, if you come to Fremont and you talk to anyone around 40 and you say, hey, you know, beef, they'd be like the mayor.

So I remember when I was in court and I was arresting people, and the judge would say, well, who will beef.

Beef with my professional.

My, my football coaches, my my sports kosher.

So it speaks.

Where's the beef?

Yeah, yeah.

So he's boogie.

Boogie and.

Beef.

Boogie and beef.

So, so boogie is, he's a senior and he's.

And he runs track.

How ironic.

Because he never quit.

He never quit running.

And also you have, we talked, during the break.

Not does he?

Not only does he run track, but he must run as well because he will be attending Tiffin University.

Yeah.

All right.

Yeah.

We're super excited.

Yeah.

He's going on a partial scholarship.

He's a 800 runner, and he's, just a great kid.

Yeah, well, congratulations to both him and all of you.

Yeah.

Thank you.

So, So.

Tiffin.

Yeah.

Here we are.

So, he says, we're going to get up and we're going to go to breakfast at, either Whitey's, Billy's or Kiki's.

We have, amazing local restaurants as, as a lot of communities do around us.

Right.

And, and it's always hard to name one.

Yeah.

Over the other, because you don't want to.

Leave anyone out, and you need the votes.

And you need.

The vote.

It's all right.

So I go to all of.

Yes.

You know, if you can't go wrong with that, you got to keep up with the nickname I got.

Yeah, I got to go.

I got to, you know, we got, Ace Cafe.

They got a, they got somebody named after me.

I was going there.

So what is it?

It's it's like a mix.

I would call it, like the mess.

It's got like eggs, sausage, potatoes, bacon.

It's just all together.

That's what the drive for.

And the.

But the only thing is, is my wife and my dad.

You're not allowed to eat in public, so I. So I got to really be careful.

I can't tear it up, you know.

Yeah, sure.

That's right.

So I got busy.

Yeah.

So.

But anyways, he says he'd go to one of these places, and, he said the would go to the Spiegel Grove, the Hayes Presidential Center.

So it's one of the first Hayes and, the Hayes are there's presidential libraries in United States, and it's a 25 acre, block of our community.

And, it's just a beautiful facility.

It's very peaceful.

He said.

I just you can walk through there and you can take tours.

And, after that he said I'd come back downtown.

I'd get lunch.

Yeah.

Or go to, you know, there's several places to go get lunch out of town.

And after you just burned off your 3200 calorie breakfast.

Yeah.

Now, see, he can.

Do that because he.

Yeah, he's.

Going to run.

Yeah, he's got a book.

He says, dad, you got you can't keep doing that.

Yeah, yeah.

I still can't get out of that chair.

I hear you I got help getting in, so I understand.

Yeah, that's right It's the chair I said.

So, yeah.

All right, so we're at lunch.

Where are we at?

So we're downtown somewhere.

We're doing some shopping, and, he, his girlfriend job.

So she's like, oh, I love going downtown with my my 17.

You know, I love going downtown with my mom, my sisters and some boutique shop.

And we have great stores downtown.

And and he's like, dad, you know, if I had some, he goes what's, Sabrina and I are with, you know, my granddaughters, we can go down to pottery perfection and we can paint and do some art column, and we could, you know, hang out down there and and he goes, but, you know, if it's warm out, it's really nice out.

We can go out to the reservoir.

We have a nice reservoir and 1.8, 1.9 mile walk around there.

That's nice.

We, we have a beautiful Sandusky River.

He said, that I might take someone kayaking or canoeing.

So fun.

We, I really I helped get that going.

That was one of my big accomplishments that I helpe one of our local business guys, get that going a few year ago.

Was the name of business.

Google, Google, kayak and rentals.

So Bob Turner, they owned the used to own the Haunted Hydro.

They, which was a haunted hydro attraction park.

They sold that off.

They started this business.

And, we, you can go kayaking, canoeing down the river.

It's a beautiful historic.

And he said, well, dad, how do you want me to come into Freemont?

And I said, what do you mean?

He was like, well, don't forget, you can come in by boat.

That's right.

I said, yeah, I said, you know what?

We had wave runners who said, we sold those.

But he said, dad, you can come in by boat.

And if that's the case I'm gonna take you and Fremont through the river and the tackle box, get off tackle box you know, get something to eat, maybe go downtown again.

Hang out.

Get out to the reservoir.

It is a beautiful paddle.

What you're gonna do to, kayakin in that part of where we live.

It's a great paddle.

Oh, it's just it' just fall.

Yes, sir.

You know, the last time I did it, the kayak started to tip over.

Some of them were faulty.

Well, so here's a lot of yourself.

Well, yeah I started having a panic attack.

Yeah.

And I'm like, help, help.

And they were like, well, just put your thing down.

I'm like, no, you got to get me.

I had a Yeti in my.

And I was trying to hold this.

And, after about a minute o about going into a panic attack, I stood up and I was like, in that much, I don't know.

Oh, my gosh, like the red band couldn't let that occur.

I was playing that terrifying thing.

So so we.

Got a bit of a tour of kind of Fremont, some of the things, but like, what are the industries kind of what makes up, Fremont that people would.

Be familiar with?

Yeah.

So, Crown Batter is one of our largest employers, as we celebrate our nation's birthday this year, Crown battery celebrating a big milestone is their 100th anniversary.

About that.

It's, you know, and, the business owners and our communit is just so wonderful to Fremont.

We have green Bay packaging.

We have style crafts.

They're one of the largest, vinyl siding manufacturing distributors in the country.

Who's the largest employer in the area?

On a manufacturing base, I'd say Crown battery.

Okay.

ProMedica, we have a we have a, a nice local hospital.

That's also in this little area, you know, but our Fremont City schools, you know, just your typical.

Yeah, your you your hospitals or your schools.

I shouldn't say typical We're blessed to have.

Schools.

And we have great leaders in our school systems and just it's really just a phenomenal community.

One of our largest employers, you know, we have a lot of tier two manufacturing, pretty much really a strong it's an interesting community.

It's very diverse, culturally diverse manufacturing diverse farming, diverse.

And, just, you know that's where we generate income.

How many employees does do you manage at the city?

We have approximately 160 employees.

Who's your least favorite?

Say, right into that camera.

Not just.

Just got to read the paper.

Oh, tell me about, I probably early.

Yeah.

What do you think?

Well we don't care about there.

Yeah.

Tell me, when you think of a free man, or if you're traveling for a mayoral conference.

Something like that.

When?

When you describe Fremont, how do you describe it?

You know, it's funny, I just I really think our people, we have great people, I see.

Yeah.

Because as your castle I don't speak much Spanish, but, you know, our home is your home.

When we.

When people come to Fremont, we just.

I think our community really welcomes people.

But they're kind of like my family.

They're also just as hard on me.

Yeah.

You know, so it's like I could be, you know, like, I could do you just.

They.

They're really hard on me sometimes.

But when I need them, they come together.

So that to me and we we've had a great pleasure having some other mayors on the floor.

And it probably is true, indiscriminate the size of your town, but there's no anonymity for Danny Sanchez.

Right.

So there's no escaping conversat Talk to m a little bit about that balance.

Not that you seem to have one based on your mental illness.

But.

You're either crazy, you know, you're crazy.

You don't.

That's right.

Yeah.

And this is not that show.

We think you're doing fine.

Yeah.

But talk to me a little bit about, access to you and, how you do plan some downtime or how do you have time with your bride and family?

You know, I, to me, it's funny.

I'm just going to tell yo a couple things here, but one, can we have a Kroger storm in one of our grocery stores, and I can go on a Kroger's, dressed like this, or sweatpants and a hoodie.

And, to me, when I quit I've always said this to my wife when I quit wantin to go get groceries and Kroger's and I should probably step out of this position.

I really enjoy it.

You know, the grocery store trips get long.

Sometimes I, have to run in an get, you know, my wife's need.

Sometimes I got a trip.

Can take a little longer.

So she's got to give me a little more of a heads up.

Yeah.

You know, but I, I go an I just enjoy talking to people.

Yeah.

You know, always have, always have, always have.

I think that's how I ended up here.

I go into Kroger's and sometimes I hear the ugly truth and not pretty lies either.

But it's part of the job.

Sure, I've always been able to just treat people with respect, deal with difficult situations and not escalate things, and I just think that my staf complains that I give the public too much access to me.

I, my my cell phone number, I ran for office.

I put my cell phone number out.

It's been the same.

Sure.

I respond to social media after my personal page, my mayor page, my city email.

Or you can call the office.

Yeah.

I'm social.

Media page is very active.

It is.

I try to keep it, you know, I live in a glass house, and I just think when you're in public service, you know, you got to be prepared to deal with.

Sure.

With that, you know?

So, you know, certainly in the time that you've been in office at a, at a national level, politics have become more and more divided.

Yeah, I know it's different at a local level.

Kind of.

Right, right.

But I'm but you know, when you were mayor, I mean, you were elected mayor in your early 30s.

Yeah.

32.

I was the youngest mayor in the city's history.

I mean how do you step into that role and kind of how have things changed for you in the in the ten years?

Well, you know, I think with me, it's, it's kind of unique.

I think our city probably would lean more Democra and independent than Republican.

I think I'm one of the first Republican mayors elected, and, I don't know, maybe 4 or 5 decades.

I didn't know that when I ran.

I just I had no idea, you know, but I have my beliefs and my values, and I'm proud of of who I am.

But I just, you know, we've been through a lot.

I think I read an article that 60% of mayors, sinc Covid, are no longer in office.

But I'm like, man, I don't know, how do we get through that?

But we went through we've gone through these these racial tensions and these the pandemic.

And, you know, we're criticizing how we're dealing with that.

I remember getting calls saying, hey, you know, does your rec center have the ability to to house bodies?

If, you know, if our facilities are full and you can't tell a public that, but you still have to, you have to you have to be strong.

You gotta have thick skin and but you got to be you can't let your you can't show your emotions.

That emotion is you gotta just let people know who you are.

That, to me, is fascinating.

And at the risk of again and not to put you on the spot, but you're a human being made of the same molecules we all are.

So you have feelings, right?

Yeah.

And their ego is is a i a healthy and important thing.

But the balanc between managing your feelings, your moods and the job is incalculable to me.

Well I listen to a lot of podcasts, and one of the guys I listen.

To as we have a podcast.

He do you have a great podcast.

And and I've watched it.

Yeah.

So, many Scott and his theme was, I just want to cry too.

Yeah.

And he just goes on as a man.

But you got to have big shoulders.

But it's okay to cry.

You know when I've cried better times.

Yeah.

So a wise man once said we'll see.

Yeah.

Right.

So what do you do with or what relationship do you have with the other regional mayors?

Who's your best mayor friend?

You know, I would be your best mayor.

My best friend is probably, not probably.

I would say Mayor Kevin Stryker from Bellevue.

Okay.

We got a lot to do at the same time.

Now, my friend from, Gibson Burg, Mayor Fall, also a great guy.

We tease each other all the time.

Yeah, I just was in a meeting with Mayor Snyder from Port Clinton last week.

He's going through a safety service director change.

Okay.

I, mayor, former mayor, lots of tiffin.

Was is, still good friend, but was, he was he was the first elected official that I want to talk to about.

When I ran for office, I didn't know him.

He was a young man, and, I really respected him.

And he gave me advice.

And, Terry Obermeyer, the former mayor of Fremont, was there for 20 years before the mayor that I, defeated.

I still call him for advice.

Yeah.

Do you participate, like, in the U.S.

Conference of Mayors or in the Mayor's Alliance or any of those?

Do you call the person in defeat and remind them that he's lost?

You know, he didn' he didn't talk to me for, like, the first couple of years.

Yeah, years.

First couple of years.

And, he says hi to me today.

It was it was just the most uncomfortable positio because just just 30s on this.

I was working for the city.

Technically, you can't run for mayor if you work for the city, but I was an unclassified, appointed employee of the court, which is separate from the city.

And I happen to be a city resident.

So I had to get a legal opinion from a wonderful attorney named Andy Miley.

From from the from what?

His wife's now on this Court of Appeals.

She is.

Yes.

And, and they tried to stop me fro running and I was able to run.

And then, it was just an interesting campaign.

I never said anything negative.

I don't believe that you should run against anyone.

Negative.

I think you should run for yourself, and, Yeah.

And.

But anyways, you know, I have, so one of the smartest decisions I ever made.

They say surround yourself with good people.

I hired my former ninth grade basketball coach, Kelly Meyers, to be my safety service director.

When I came back, I knew nothing about, really what it took to run a city.

I just felt like I had the skill set to be able to learn.

And you cared.

And I cared, and I hire Kelly Meyers, and I said, man, you know how cool is that?

To hire my former coach.

Kenny Meyers is is sent this ahead of time.

So we're going to put you on the spot, okay?

Yeah.

It's now time for Gretchen's wacky quiz.

Yeah.

We're going to.

Be for rapid fire questions.

Gretchen's going to ask you for your favorite thing in the region match.

And have you describe your community in nine words.

All right, here we go.

How many countries have you visited?

Two.

How d you feel about pets and animals?

I have a dog, and he's a pug.

His name is blue.

I love him blue.

Go blue, big red, blue.

And be.

If you had to delete all but three apps from your phone, which ones would you keep?

Facebook, TikTok, and my, oh.

Only ESPN.

Yes.

My man.

Name a song that makes you happy.

The working class Lee Brice.

Yeah.

All right.

Was that for okay?

What's your number one?

Favorite thing or best thing about the region or Fremont?

Going to high school football games?

Yeah.

When?

High school football games.

Very fun.

Yeah.

All right, all right.

Fremont Speedway.

You only get one.

Final.

Piece.

All right, nine things.

We'll put Fremont Speedway at the top.

We'll give that to you.

I need eight more words to describe.

What are your favorite things about the region?

We're doing it together.

Yeah.

So I would say, the Google kayaks, Kayak I love it.

And running, our downtown Fremont farmers markets, farmers market, our manufacturing base community, just our people, people and our civic organizations are amazing partners.

Our state community college sheriff.

Absolutely.

Proud of them.

I am, yeah, I technically transfer to Tiffin, so I just have to do my internship there.

I keep going, we got two more.

My family.

Yes, sir.

Absolutely.

And, my number one would be my wife.

Without her, I couldn't.

Have that.

Blessed to be able to.

Do.

Smart man.

So great list.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

Are you.

One of our requirements is even if you're, as important as a mayor, we still require you to bring gifts.

Oh, yeah.

And you did.

You brought, Looks like we've got some.

Gifts.

We did here.

I was able to, It's just a small gift, but I love it.

It means a lo because it has our name on it.

Yes, sir.

This is going to go on.

For those of you who cannot see this, this is, a plaque that says the City of Fremont, established in 1849.

Perfect.

Gretchen, one of you were there?

I was there, it was a proud day.

Last, last question, last question for you.

What's your what's your dream for?

Fremont?

My my dream for Fremont is to stay the way we are.

I think our city is united.

We're not divided.

Despite what's going on across the country and across the nation.

I just I really take pride i just keeping our community tight and representing everyone fairly and letting everyone feel loved and cared about and just treat people with respect.

Mayor thank you so.

Much for the call.

Thank you.

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You know, Richard, it's just so fun to kind o see the city and see the vision through the eyes of, of our local mayors.

I think it's good to know our neighbors.

Good to know the peopl that are running the cities that that are in and around Toledo.

So it was exciting to get to talk to them again.

It's really I enjoy hearing their vision and sort of the professional side of of what they do, but also getting to know some of the background.

I'm I'm a big believer in, you know, I' a huge Simon Sinek fan.

Right.

So start with why the kind of why behind these individuals of of you know, why they do what they do and how they got there.

I think matters.

I think that helps us figure out kind of where they're where they're planning on going.

Yeah.

A group of passionate people.

I'm the opposite.

I put the people in front of at first, like, having their nicknames.

Bring on the people from their communit that we're, like, kind of.

But.

Yeah, well we went to high school together.

Yeah, of course you did.

But that says something, right?

There's not a lot of people that, to both of your points, sign up for this sort of thing.

And the idea that people have known them their whole lives and then want them to lead their community.

Right.

Right, right.

Well, and we've got, you know, every single person that said, not every single person that sat in that seat on May or Monday is somebody that, you know, politically.

I will agree with everything that they stand for.

Right.

But but to a person, we can have a conversation and we can take the time to get to know each othe and we can respect each other's, you know, positions.

And I think that's, you know, hopefully one of the for me, one of the takeaways of this.

And that's why I like Taft because I can get behind his dietary choices seven out of seven times.

Right.

I bet he's stabbing a which he's after the show every.

Day as well.

Yeah, right.

So we're not supposed to be doing that.

But, you know, we can.

We can.

He was a leader.

Huge thanks to Tim Pedro, the mayor of Waterville, for joining us on the program, as well as well as mayor Mike McCann from defiance and Mayor Danny Sanchez from Fremont, Ohio.

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