WANT YOUR TAX DOLLARS BEING SPENT, IS IT HAVING THE INTENDED EFFECT?

>> RESULTS OF THE MAIN CHOICE ON THE BALLOT LEFT A JUBILANT WINNER AND AN ANGRY LOSER.

THIS SHIFTS THE BALANCE OF THE COURT TO A LIBERAL MAJORITY.

MUCH WATCHED RESULT WITH POLITICAL IMPLICATIONS GOING FORWARD.

FOR MORE, WE CHECK IN WITH OUR POLITICAL PANELIST DEMOCRAT SCOTT ROSS AND REPUBLICAN BILL McCOSHEN AND THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US.

>> GOOD TO BE HERE.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.

>> FIRST, I WANT TO ASK ABOUT DANIEL KELLY'S CONCESSION SPEECH.

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT, BILL?

>> WELL, YOU WANT TO WIN WITH GRACE AND HUMILITY AND LOSE WITH CLASS AND HUMILITY AND HE DID NOT DO THAT.

I MEAN, WHEN YOU LOSE BY 11 POINTS, THAT'S A LANDSLIDE IN THE STATE OF WISCONSIN.

YOU NEED TO BE A LITTLE MORE HUMBLE.

I THINK IT WAS INSULTING TO ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WORKED SO HARD FOR HIM, FOLKS THAT DONATED TO HIM.

I MEAN, THAT'S A REPRESENTATION ON THEM, TOO, AND HE DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT.

YOU'VE GOT TO LOSE WITH CLASS.

>> WHEN YOU SAW THAT, WHAT DID YOU THINK?

>> I THOUGHT IT'S THE FACE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN DECISIVE AND EXTREME.

HE IS THE EMBODIMENT OF WHERE THE REPUBLICAN HAS GONE.

IT'S NOT WHERE BILL'S AT.

IT'S THE TRUMP, THE DeSANTIS, THE DIVISION, JUST THE REJECTION OF WHAT HAVE BEEN NORMS IN BOTH POLICY AND POLITICS.

>> SO, BILL, THIS WAS AN 11-POINT WIN, AS YOU POINTED OUT.

THAT WAS A TROUNCING.

WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED?

>> WELL, IT WAS TWICE AS BAD AS HIS LAST RACE IN 2020.

HE LOST BY ABOUT 110,000 VOTES A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND THIS ONE WAS MORE LIKE 225,000.

I THINK MONEY WAS A FACTOR AND THERE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES OF MONEY.

THE MONEY THAT JANET PROTASIEWICZ WAS ABLE TO RAISE IN HER CAMPAIGN GOES FURTHER BUYING MORE CAMPAIGN ADS.

SHE HAD WAY MORE POINTS THAN HE DID.

HE ALWAYS STRUGGLED TO RAISE MONEY.

JOHN RAISED TWICE AS MUCH MONEY AS HE DID IN THE PRIMARY AND HE NEVER PICKED IT UP IN THE GENERAL, SO SHE HAD A HUGE ADVANTAGE ON THE TYPES OF ADS SHE COULD SEE BUY AND AT WHAT RATE.

THINGS SEEMED A LITTLE BIT EQUAL AS IT RELATED TO THIRD PARTIES, BUT THOSE ADS ARE FAR MORE EXPENSIVE AND THE CANDIDATE DOESN'T CONTROL THOSE MESSAGES, SO HE WAS OUTMANNED AND OUT-MONEYED.

>> WAS IT ABOUT THE MONEY?

>> I THINK IT'S FOUR THINGS.

LET ME SAY THAT BILL REMINDS US, YOU KNOW N-TALKING ABOUT KELLY'S LAST LOSS, THAT SINCE 2016, DEMOCRATS HAVE WON 15-OF-18 STATEWIDE ELECTIONS.

THIS IS A TREND.

THEY WON THE 2018 SUPREME COURT SEAT, 55-TO-45, AND THEY WON THE ONE IN 2020, THE SAME.

IT'S GONE FROM 110,000 TO 250,000 TO 200,000.

THE TRENDS ARE NOT RIGHT FOR THE REPUBLICANS BOTH IN THE TURN-OUT IN PLACES LIKE DAN COUNTY AND MILWAUKEE COUNTY, INTLOW IN THE WOW COUNTIES.

JANET PROTASIEWICZ WON THE CITY OF WAUKESHA, THE PLACE WHERE SCOTT WALKER HAD 73% IN 2014.

BUT, AGAIN, THE DEMOCRATS, THEY HAVE THE MONEY, THEY HAVE THE MESSAGE, THEY HAVE THE MACHINE, AND THEY HAVE THE MOTIVATION AND THAT'S GOING TO WIN ELECTIONS.

>> WHAT KIND OF A WAKE-UP CALL IS THIS FOR REPUBLICANS?

ARE REPUBLICANS NOW ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE BARK ISSUE PLOTICAL?

>> THEY'RE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE ISSUE.

THERE WERE THREE STATE REFERENDUM ON THE BALLOT TWO.

RELATED TO BAIL, CASH BAIL.

ONE PASSED WITH 67%.

THE OTHER HAD 68%.

THEN THERE WAS A REFERENDUM QUESTION ADVISORY ON ABLE-BODIED CHILDLESS ADULTS WORKING.

THAT PATH WITH 80%.

ALL 72 COUNTIES VOTED FOR THOSE THREE REFERENDUM, INCLUDING DANE AND MILWAUKEE.

WE'RE RIGHT ON THE ISSUES.

WE HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB ON CANDIDATE SCREENING.

>> YOU'RE NOT GOING TO WIN A STATE-WIDE ISSUE ON ANY OF THE THREE THINGS HE'S TALKING ABOUT, BUT ON ABORTION IT'S GOING TO BECAUSE IT HITS PEOPLE HARD.

IT'S NOW A DISQUALIFY -- TO BE ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE IN STATEWIDE ELECTIONS IS DISQUALIFYING.

IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, SAVE FOR ONE.

SAVE FOR RON JOHNSON.

NOT ONLY IS IT TOXIC IN PLACES LIKE DANE COUNTY AND MILWAUKEE, BUT JANET WON THE THIRDS CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT, THE FIRST CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT SOUNDLY.

SHE WON IN PLACES LIKE THE FRENCH QUARTER, EAU CLAIRE AND LACROSSE, 64% IN BOTH OF THOSE COUNTIES.

REPUBLICANS ARE IN A LOT OF TROUBLE IF THEY DON'T CHANGE.

I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO.

>> KELLY LET PROTASIEWICZ DEFINE HIS POSITION ON ABORTION.

VOTERS NEVER KNEW WHAT HIS POSITION WAS ON ABORTION IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE PRO-LIFE, THAT'S FINE, BUT YOU HAVE TO BE PROACTIVE.

YOU CAN'T LET YOUR OPPONENT DEFINE YOU ON ISSUES SUCH AS THAT AND IT WAS A HUGE PROBLEM FOR KELLY, NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.

>> SCOTT, DOES THIS KIND OF SPELL THE TURN FROM THE SCOTT WALKER ERA?

>> WITHOUT A DOUBT, ABSOLUTELY, 100%.

GIVEN WHERE THE REPUBLICANS ARE ON ABORTION, AND GIVEN WHERE THE PUBLIC IS AND HOW THEY SEE THE SUPREME COURT BEING THAT A TO B LINE, BECAUSE THE OVERTURNING OF THE 1849 BAN WHEN IT HAPPENS, THAT'S GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN THE SUPREME COURT ELECTIONS FROM NOW UNTIL THE NEXT 10 YEARS SO WE'VE GOT ONE'S UP IN 25, TWO REPUBLICANS UP IN 26 AND 27.

AFTER 27, DEMOCRATS COULD IN THEORY HAVE SIX OF THE SEVEN SUPREME COURT SEATS.

>> WE SORT OF RUN THROUGH WALKER-BACKED CANDIDATES WITH REBECCA CLAY FISH AND NOW DANIEL KELLY, BUT NOW HIS POLICIES ARE GOING TO BE UP FOR GRABS IN THE NEW SUPREME COURT.

WHEN JANET PROTASIEWICZ GETS INVESTED IN AUGUST, THERE'S TWO YEARS WHERE PROGRESSIVES WILL HAVE FULL CONTROL OR THE MAJORITY ON THE WISCONSIN SUPREME COURT AND A LOT OF HIS POLICIES MIGHT BE ON THE LINE.

>> BILL, SCOTT WALKER SAYS THAT UW MADISON HELPED DANE COUNTY'S NUMBERS BECAUSE HE SAYS, QUOTE, LIBERALS ARE INDOCTRINATING YOUNG PEOPLE AND TURNING THEM OUT TO VOTE.

WHAT'S YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT?

>> MY RESPONSE IS DANE COUNTY HAS BEEN A PROBLEM FOR REPUBLICANS FOR 20 YEARS.

WE FINALLY HAVE NEW LEADERSHIP.

NAPOLI IS GOING TO DO A VERY GOOD JOB.

I'M ENCOURAGED BY THE NEW LEADERSHIP IN DANE COUNTY, BUT WE'RE A WAYS BEHIND WHERE DEMOCRATS ARE.

THEY HAVE FIGURED OUT THAT THEY CAN HARVEST MORE VOTES HERE IN DANE COUNTY THAN ANY OTHER COUNTY IN THE STATE AND BUILD UP A MASSIVE ADVANTAGE.

JANET PROTASIEWICZ HAD 153,000 VOTE ADVANTAGE JUST IN DANE COUNTY.

IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME TO FIX IT FOR REPUBLICANS.

MESSAGE MATTERS, CANDIDATES MATTER, AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME.

>> JANET WON 12 COUNTIES THAT HAVE UW CAMPUSES.

THE REASON THAT PEOPLE AREN'T VOTING IS BECAUSE SCOTT WALKER WANTS TO RAISE MONEY FOR ITS NEW OPERATION.

IT'S BECAUSE REPUBLICANS ARE WRONG ON THE ISSUES OF ABORTION, TRANSGENDER, RIGHTS, VOTING, EDUCATION ALL ACROSS THE BOARD.

>> A MINUTE LEFT.

WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS FOR 2024?

>> THE IMPLICATIONS ARE THAT WHAT'S HIS NAME DERIC VAN HORTON AND BRIAN STYLE BETTER WATCH OUT BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY MIGHT BE GOING OUT IF D.C.

INVESTS IN WISCONSIN ELECTIONS, WE'RE GOING TO WIN.

WE'VE PROVEN IT TIME AND TIME AGAIN.

YOU PUT THE MONEY IN, WE GET THE RIGHT CANDIDATES, WE WIN THE ELECTIONS.

>> TOO SOON TO TELL.

WE NEED A DIFFERENT CANDIDATE AT THE TOP OF THE TICKET OTHER THAN DONALD TRUMP IF WE WANT TO WIN IN THE SUNBURNS.

YOU EVER TO WIN THE BOW AND THE WOW COUNTIES.

JANET PROTASIEWICZ WON ALL THREE OF THE BOW COUNTIES AND SHE CUT THE 345R7B8GS IN THE WOW SIGNIFICANTLY.

WE NEED A DIFFERENT CANDIDATE AT THE TOP OF THE TICKET.

AT THE LEGISLATIVE LEVEL, JUST KEEP PASSING PROACTIVE POLICIES THAT VOTERS RESPOND TO AND I THINK THAT FORMULA WORKS.

>> 27 COUNTIES SHE WON INCLUDING SOUTHWEST AND SOUTH CENTRAL PART OF THE STATE, 27 COUNTIES.

>> WE NEED TO LEAVE IT THERE.