SURVEYED LET THE NOSE RELY SOCIAL MEDIA SITES LIKE TIKTOK AND WHATSAPP FOR THEIR NEWS AND INFORMATION MAKING THEM THE LARGEST DEMOGRAPHIC TO DO SO.

THAT'S ACCORDING TO A PEW RESEARCH STUDY ON AMERICAN SOCIAL MEDIA USAGE.

THIS HAS ALLOWED FOR THE SPREAD OF MISINFORMATION AND DISINFORMATION AMONG LATINOS.

WE'RE FACT CHECKING IN SPANISH IS LESS AVAILABLE HERE TO BREAK THAT DOWN BOMB AND A LOT BROADCAST JOURNALISM AND MEDIA LITERACY, TEACHER EQUITY STILL TODAY, JESUIT HIGH SCHOOL IN FORMER REPORTER AT ON THE CHICAGO AND JIM WARREN, EXECUTIVE EDITOR OF NEWS GUARD WHICH ANALYZES AND RATES THOUSANDS OF NEWS AND INFORMATION SITE.

HE'S ALSO THE FORMER MANAGING EDITOR AT THE CHICAGO TRIBUNE.

THANK YOU BOTH FOR JOINING US I WANT TO START WITH YOU.

YOU CREATED AN ENTIRE CURRICULUM AROUND MEDIA LITERACY AND WORK WITH HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS.

WHAT HAVE YOU LEARNED ABOUT HOW STUDENTS CONSUME NEWS AND FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

AND YOU LIKE I WOULD NOT BEING ABLE TO DO IT WITHOUT THE NEWS LITERACY PROJECT.

>> RESOURCES.

AND AND THAT IS WHAT I WANT.

ALL THE TEACHERS TO KNOW.

FIRST OF ALL, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THERE IS A LAW IN ILLINOIS.

THEY JUST STARTED THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE MANDATED TO HAVE A UNIT OF MEDIA LITERACY IN THEIR CURRICULUMS.

ALL THE HIGH SCHOOLS.

SO SOMETIMES A TEACHER YOU FEEL STRESSED LIKE, WHAT AM I GOING TO TEACH THIS WEEK AND THE MEDIA LITERACY WHERE TO FIND OUT INFORMATION.

SO THE NEWS YOU PROJECT HAVE IT.

THEY HAVE A WEB SITE, COACH, ECOLOGY.

YOU CAN GO IN AND FIND A LOT OF LESSONS AND RESOURCES FOR FREE TRADE.

AND YOU'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A COUPLE YES, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR ALL.

BUT TEACHING BROADCAST JOURNALISM AND I DO A LANGUAGE FOR ABOUT 4 YEARS.

BUT I'VE BEEN TEACHING FOR 7 YEARS.

ALSO, AP SPANISH, ALL THAT'S CREATED.

HOW WOULD YOU ASSESS ABILITY TO DISTINGUISH REAL NEWS FROM FAKE?

YEAH, IT IS WE SEE THAT.

LIKE YOU MENTIONED TIKTOK.

IT IS THE MAIN SOURCE OF INFORMATION FOR THEM AND THEY NEED IDENTIFY WHAT NEWS AND WHAT IS AN I ALWAYS TELL THEM IF YOU THINK.

WHEN YOU SEE THINGS IN 18 IN SOCIAL MEDIA.

IT'S NOT THE SAME BEING SOMEBODY WHO WAS JUST TELLING YOU SOMETHING RIGHT BESIDE ITSELF, SOMEBODY THAT FOR ME.

YOU SO I WAS TELL THEM YOU WANT TO BE INFORMED OR YOU WANT TO BE INFLUENCED BECAUSE INFLUENCERS OUT THERE AND AND HAVE THEIR OWN AGENDA.

AND IS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE GENERATIONS LIKE THE YOUNGER GENERATION AND OLDER LATINOS ON THE THEY CONSUME EXACTLY.

YEAH.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT MANY OF THE THE OLDER GENERATION OF LATINO, THEY STILL SEE DO LIKE GO TO THE LOCAL IN TELEVISION, BUT THAT THE NEW GENERATION, THEY'RE THEY DON'T WATCH THE NEWS THAT THE WAY WE WE DID IT RIGHT.

SO THERE'S IT'S IT'S ALL ABOUT IN IN THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA.

THAT'S INTERESTING.

AND JIM, I WANT TO GO TO YOU WORK FOR NEWSGUARD.

CAN YOU TELL ME MORE ABOUT THE WORK THAT YOU DO?

YEAH, FOR SURE.

AND FORGET JUST WANT.

>> SO FOLKS KNOW WHAT YOU JUST HEARD ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN CRYSTAL RAE IS A RARITY.

IT HAPPENS VIRTUALLY NOWHERE IN THE COUNTRY.

MEDIA LITERACY IS JUST NOT EVEN THE STATE LAW THAT WAS JUST MENTIONED IN ILLINOIS.

THE FIRST OF ITS KIND IS AN UNFUNDED MANDATE.

IT HASN'T REALLY BEEN PUT INTO EFFECT.

THERE IS NO CURRICULUM STANDARDS THAT HAVE BEEN SET UP.

THERE'S BEEN NO MONEY GIVEN TO THE LEGISLATURE BY THE LEGISLATURE TO AFFECT THAT LAWN.

SOMETHING CONFIRMED THAT A RECENT CONVERSATION HAD WITH GOVERNOR PRITZKER.

WE DECIDED 5 YEARS AGO THAT WE DO WANT TO LEAVE TO THE ALGORITHMS GOOGLE AND FACEBOOK.

THE DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT SOURCES OF INFORMATION TO RATE HIGH IN WHICH TO RATE LOVE, PARTICULARLY SINCE GOOGLE AND FACEBOOK WILL NOT TELL YOU WHAT GOES INTO THEIR ALGORITHMS AND WHY WHEN YOU GOOGLE SOMETHING, YOU GET THESE STORIES FROM A CERTAIN ORGANIZATION AND NOT ANOTHER.

SO WE DECIDED WE WOULD USE TRAIN JOURNALIST.

WE CAME UP WITH A 9 NON IDEOLOGICAL CRITERIA.

SOME OF THE MOST SIMPLE AS DOES IT TELL YOU THIS?

I TELL YOU WHO THE OWNER IS.

DO THEY TELL YOU WHO THE EDITORS ARE?

DO THEY HAVE A CORRECTIONS POLICY?

DO THEY RUN CORRECTION?

SO DONE THAT NOW FOR 10,000 WEBSITES IN THE U.S. EUROPE, CANADA, AUSTRALIA, AND ALSO NOW, WOULD YOU BELIEVE WE'RE DOING IT FOR SPOTIFY AND APPLE WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR VERY OWN PODCAST, THEY'VE COME TO US TO TELL THEM WHETHER THEIR PODCAST CREDIBLE AND WE'RE ALSO DOING FOR BIG AD AGENCIES WHEN IT COMES TO TV NEWSCASTS AROUND THE COUNTRY.

>> AND, JIM, THIS IS MOSTLY FOR ENGLISH LANGUAGE INFORMATION.

BUT YOUR OVEN IS A SHUN HAS BEEN ABLE TO ANALYZE SOME SPANISH NEW SITE.

ARE THOSE GOOD SOURCES FOR SPANISH SPEAKERS TO GO TO?

>> YOU KNOW, I HAD TOTALLY FORGOTTEN ABOUT THAT UNTIL THIS AFTERNOON.

YES, WE RATED THE SORT OF MAYBE THAT THE 2 BIGGEST THAT TV WEBSITE, UNIVISION TELEMUNDO AND THEY BOTH GETTING 100 FROM US NOW.

THOSE ARE LOCAL NEWSPAPERS WHICH DON'T DO NEARLY AS WELL IN THE IN THE MINORITY COMMUNITIES, LATINO AND AFRICAN-AMERICAN.

YOU NEWSROOMS JUST WIPED OUT THE STANDARDS OF DECLINE AND THEY DON'T DO VERY WELL.

BUT HELEN, DO AND UNIVISION WEBSITES GET 100 FROM US AND JUST TO PUT THEM IN CONTEXT CHICAGO WHEN IT COMES THINGS LANGUAGES, ICED TEA TO W CHECKED WE GIVE IT 100.

THE SUN-TIMES GETS 100 BLOCK CLUB.

CHICAGO GETS 100 WHICH IS RARE FOR US.

CHICAGO DEFENDER FAILS.

THEY GOT A 57 HAPPENED.

FINALLY INTRIGUINGLY, THE CHICAGO TRIBUNE DOES NOT GET 100.

IT 92.5 BECAUSE IT REFUSES TO DISCLOSE ITS OWNERSHIP, WHICH IS A SOMEWHAT NOTORIOUS NEW YORK HEDGE FUND, WHICH PERHAPS THEY'RE EMBARRASSED BY.

BUT IF COMING TO THAT SITE, YOU CAN FIND OUT OWNS THE TRIBUNE.

THAT'S REALLY INTERESTING IN ALL WAY TO LIFT THE NOSE, RELY SO HEAVILY SOCIAL MEDIA FOR THEIR NEWS AND INFORMATION.

>> WELL, LET'S LET'S PUT IT THIS WAY.

MANY, MANY OF THE LATINOS WERE BORN HERE.

YES, THEY FOLLOW THEIR THEY CARE FOR WHAT THE?

>> ISSUES ARE HERE.

BUT MANIA COME FROM OTHER LATIN AMERICAN COUNTRIES IN THEY KEEP.

YOU KNOW, CHECKING WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THEIR COUNTRY.

SO WHEN THEY CHECKED THAT SOCIAL MEDIA IS THE BEST WAY TO DO IT.

AND WHAT ARE SOME TIPS OR ADVICE TO YOU GIVE YOUR STUDENTS AND ALSO TO THE PARENTS AND HOW THEY SHOULD BE FACT CHECKING THEIR SOURCES BECAUSE IT'S SO EASY TO GO ON FACEBOOK.

MY MOM HAD DONE IT TO ME.

SHE'S LIKE, HEY, JOIN A LOOK AT THIS WEBSITE LIKE MOM.

REALLY LOOK RIGHT.

EXACTLY.

AND I HAVE SEE THAT ALL THE TIME LIKE STUDENTS COMING IN SHOWING ME IS THIS TRUE?

>> SOMETIMES NOW WITH THAT DEEP FAKES RIGHT BANK, THEY THAT YOU SEE THE REPORTER'S VOICE AND YOU SEE LOOKS LEGITIMATE.

BUT IT'S NOT.

YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TRYING TO SELL YOU SOMETHING.

SO, I MY BEST ADVICE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LITTLE LIKE A HEALTHY DOSE OF 6 GUESTS SKEPTICISM, RIGHT?

LIKE IS IT TRUE?

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, JOURNALIST, YOU HAVE TRAINED BUT NOT EVERYBODY IS SAID SO THEY NEED TO LEARN HOW TO HOW TO CHECK.

ONE IS TRUE OR NOT.

>> ANOTHER GO AHEAD.

YEAH, WE GO AHEAD.

JUST QUICKLY, ADD THAT WHAT CRYSTAL RAE IS DOING I HAD NOT KNOWN ABOUT HIS AMAZING IN THE CHICAGO PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND 62, YOU BE MINDFUL OF THAT.

>> WE HAVE A DEAL WITH THE AMERICAN FEDERATION TEACHERS, THE PARENTS OF THE CTU.

WE WOULD OFTEN WE GIVE THEM FREE OUR CTU.

DO YOU KNOW THAT?

I DON'T THINK THEY DO CPS.

DO KNOW THAT.

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