(bright gentle music) (bright bluesy music) (film whirring) (lively percussive music) [Announcer] Recorded live, it's the Nebraska ETV Network's "33rd Street Sessions", with the alternative rock sound of Mercy Rule from Lincoln, Nebraska.

Featuring Heidi Ore on vocals and bass, Jon Taylor, guitars and vocals, Ron Albertson, drums and vocals.

Mercy Rule began in Lincoln, Nebraska in 1991.

Their name comes from the 10-run rule in Little League, showing mercy for the defeated team.

Recently, Mercy Rule signed a recording contract with Relativity Records, after being spotted by record executives at CBGB's in New York.

And now, here's Mercy Rule.

-(upbeat rock music) -(audience cheering) Thanks.

(drumsticks clicking) ♪ Down the middle of my street ♪ ♪ Down the middle of myself ♪ ♪ Down the middle of my tongue ♪ ♪ Down the middle of my brain, yeah ♪ ♪ Everybody divides my head in two ♪ ♪ Everybody hates me through to you ♪ ♪ Everybody reminds me what I see ♪ ♪ Everybody reminds me of you too ♪ ♪ And it won't be soon, what I got for you, no ♪ ♪ Down the middle of my day ♪ ♪ Down the middle of my way ♪ ♪ Down the middle of my song ♪ ♪ Down the middle of right and wrong ♪ ♪ Everybody divides my head in two ♪ ♪ Everybody hates me through to you ♪ ♪ That reminds me of each, what I'd say ♪ ♪ Everybody reminds me of you too ♪ ♪ And it won't be soon, what I've got for you ♪ ♪ And won't be, I don't know what to do ♪ ♪ I'm impatient, I'm impatient, oh ♪ (heavy indie rock music) ♪ You cut me up, you cut me down ♪ ♪ You cut me up, you cut me down ♪ ♪ You cut me up, cut me down ♪ ♪ And cut me down ♪ ♪ Down the middle, down the middle ♪ ♪ Down the middle, down the middle ♪ ♪ Down the middle, down the middle ♪ -♪ Down the middle ♪ -(audience cheering) Thank you.

♪ 1000 years gonna go by, baby ♪ ♪ Nothing's gonna change ♪ ♪ 'Cause it's on and it's off and it's on again ♪ ♪ And it's off ♪ ♪ 1000 years gonna go by, baby ♪ ♪ Nothing's gonna stay the same ♪ ♪ 'Cause it's wrong and it's right ♪ ♪ And it's wrong again, oh but it's right ♪ ♪ 1000 years gonna go by, baby ♪ ♪ Bye bye, bye baby ♪ ♪ He said something, she said something ♪ ♪ And now they are somewhere ♪ ♪ He said something ♪ ♪ And now they are somewhere ♪ ♪ He said ♪ ♪ Bye bye, bye bye baby ♪ ♪ 1000 years gonna go by, baby ♪ ♪ Nothing's gonna break your heart ♪ ♪ Fear, and break down and cry ♪ ♪ 1000 years gonna go by, baby ♪ ♪ And all those tears ♪ ♪ They dried up, what's in my brain, anyway ♪ ♪ 1000 years gonna go by, baby ♪ ♪ Bye bye, bye baby ♪ ♪ He said something, she said something ♪ ♪ Now, now they are somewhere ♪ ♪ He said something ♪ ♪ Now, now they are somewhere ♪ ♪ She said, oh bye bye ♪ (lively indie rock music) ♪ Bye bye ♪ ♪ Bye bye ♪ ♪ Bye bye ♪ ♪ Bye, bye bye, bye bye baby, bye bye ♪ ♪ Bye, bye bye, bye bye baby, bye ♪ -♪ Bye bye ♪ -(audience cheering) -Thank you.

-(bright flourish music) Jon: Mercy Rule happened after our previous band, 13 Nightmares, exploded, like bands do.

So bands break up and then bands form, and we were all in 13 Nightmares, and just one person left and we decided to keep going.

Heidi: What was important about it was that we had a van.

We had already been playing outside of the city.

We had already started touring or going and playing.

We all lived in the same home, so we had a practice place.

And so we had all the equipment, we had everything.

And because Ron agreed to play with us, we then had, we had everything.

Ron: That's what was so great about these guys, is they just wanted to play live.

It just did not matter.

They would play anywhere, everywhere.

And I was like, "Man, that's me too.

I wanna be just playing live."

You wouldn't consider yourself a musician if you weren't playing live gigs.

Jon: Yeah, an unusual thing is that we were a little bit, a few rungs older than your typical young, aggressive band.

You know we actually, we were in a band together, and it kind of broke up a little bit, 'cause Heidi and I, we moved away so I could start my news-writing job and decided to just put that aside.

We go, "I think this rock and roll thing will work out."

"This will pan out."

"This is probably a solid"- -"That's a good idea."

-"Life decision."

So we all lived in the same horrible house and we practiced in the basement, and that way the band could help out with rent, or we would split rent.

And that was our normal, you know, screen printing a hundred T-shirts in the living room, you know, and then making, writing your own music, and then making your own records, that was normal.

Our friends were doing it, we did it.

Everybody that we ran into on the road was doing it.

It was fun and weird and perfect and wrong.

♪ I woke up this morning, and I ♪ ♪ Looked into my mirror, and I ♪ ♪ I started to cry, but I... ♪ ♪ I just laughed out loud ♪ ♪ 'Cause it's all that I know ♪ ♪ It's all that I've ever been ♪ ♪ It's all that I have ♪ ♪ It's all I know to be ♪ ♪ As God is my witness, I ♪ ♪ I wanna be strong but ♪ ♪ The little things come along ♪ ♪ And I get blown away ♪ ♪ And it's all that I know ♪ ♪ It's all that I've ever been ♪ ♪ It's all that I have ♪ ♪ It's all I want to be ♪ ♪ I think that's all the living ♪ ♪ That I have done, I know something ♪ ♪ Just one thing that I ♪ ♪ Know nothing at all ♪ ♪ And it's all that I know ♪ ♪ It's all that I've ever been ♪ ♪ It's all that I have ♪ ♪ It's all I want to be ♪ (heavy indie rock music) ♪ Just one more minute, one more hour ♪ ♪ One more day and one more year and ♪ ♪ One more fight and one more fááá you ♪ ♪ One more laugh and one more ♪ ♪ All that I know, it's all that I've ever been ♪ ♪ It's all that I have, it's all I want to be ♪ ♪ It's all that I know, it's all that I've ever been ♪ ♪ It's all that I have, it's all I want to be ♪ (heavy indie rock music) (audience cheering) -Thank you very much.

-(bright flourish music) Jon: A lot of bands were getting, like us were getting signed at that time, because every label was desperate to find- Ron: It was a feeding frenzy Jon: Because of Nirvana's success, every label figured there'd be another Nirvana out there.

Heidi: They were caught with their pants down, 'cause all of a sudden, 'cause overnight, and I remember watching MTV, this is also the advent of MTV.

So it's hair band, Poison.

♪ Pour some sugar ♪ You know, it's all, all those bands.

And then that video of "Smells like Teen Spirit" and it happens overnight, the hair bands are out and Seattle is in.

And so whatever that sound is, is in.

So Bernie McGinn, who signed us to Caulfield Records, that's a local label, he would, you know, do-it-yourself label.

He recalls getting calls from A&R people going, -"Who you guys got?"

-See, that's- -"Who's out there?"

Ron: That's what was great about getting home, right?

Our answering machine would have like 15 labels on it, Like, "Hey, we'd like it, we're from blah blah blah."

Heidi: So we played at CBGBs in New York.

Jon: New York City is different, in that there are bands that play before the headlining band, and there's bands that play after the headlining band, so that you could go on at 1:00, 2:00 or 3:00 in the morning.

Ron: So The Fluid was the one that headlined.

So about three-quarters of the way through it was Fluid, they were a kind of grunge band.

Jon: We were on, it was a great bill- Heidi: It was.

Jon: ...that we really didn't have anything to do with, because we played last.

And so by the time all the bands got done- Ron: It was packed, right?

For Fluid, right?

So we're all thinking, "Oh, we're gonna get to play -for all these guys."

-"This is it."

-Guaranteed full house.

-"This is it."

And then by the time we played, it was like 15 Nebraskans there and that's about it, right?

We had a bunch of friends that happened to be there- -So- -At the same time.

Jon: And the sound guy came up and did tell us, you know, "I'm gonna turn it, if you suck, I'm gonna turn this off."

Heidi: But in the audience, out of the 10 people that are there, the couple people from Nebraska who live in New York, is an A&R guy, Mark Attenberg, who heard about us, 'cause we played in Columbia, Missouri, who's, he was the student radio station.

He probably called them and said, "Who you got?"

We ended up signing.

But you know, that show at CBGBs, and the reason that the sound man did not turn us off, is because we just really like playing.

We're like, "Oh, it's New York, and da da da."

We were derps, absolute dorks.

(low rhythmic music) Seattle grunge, right here in Nebraska.

Nikki, what in the world would you call it?

I don't know, maybe no-coast rock or corn-fed grunge?

I'm not sure.

There's prairie grunge.

-Whatever it is, it's good.

-(Nikki laughing) And you are watching it right here, on "33rd Street Sessions," on Nebraska Public Media.

We'll be back with more Mercy Rule in just a moment.

Hi, I am Steve Graziano, here with the producer of the program, Nikki Bates.

That's me.

I actually owned a Mercy Rule album, Steve.

Wow.

(laughing) I'll tell ya more about that in a moment.

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So Nikki, you owned a Mercy Rule album?

I did.

My brother was, and still is, a huge local music fan.

He is always goin' out to concerts or introducing me to new music, he's great.

So when I was younger, this was my older brother, he was the coolest and he knew all the cool music.

So one Christmas, I asked him, I said, "I would like a CD of some cool local music."

And the cool music that he bought me was Providence, which was the Mercy Rule album.

So they recorded that album the same year that this concert was recorded, 1994.

And I think you'll agree, this music, it's pretty cool.

-I like it, I like it.

-(Nikki laughing) So, do you remember any of the songs?

I do a little bit.

I'm not sure where that CD is now, or even if I would have a way to play it, but it's been really fun to rediscover Mercy Rule and discover some other cool local music through "33rd Street Sessions."

When I was down digging through our archive, this one, this was the first tape that I pulled out and played.

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Now, Steve, when I interviewed the bands for this series, they probably talked just as much about traveling to all of these different gigs as they did about the actual playing of the music.

Heidi, who is the singer and the bass player for Mercy Rule, she almost talked about their van as a fourth member of the band.

(laughing) But you know, I gotta think the travel was just grueling on these kids.

You know, maybe for some of them, but she loved it.

(Steve laughing) She talks about their Chevy Beauville van, and they laughed about, they had a no ketchup packet rule in the van.

Gotta keep that van clean.

And it actually served them really well, like to keep it very clean.

Ooh?

Do you know why?

Yes.

I'm gonna guess like, if they get pulled over?

That is exactly what happened!

Because they're working late nights, you know?

Yeah.

They were coming back from a gig at 3:00 AM, and a cop pulled 'em over and said, you know, "What are you guys doin' in there?"

You know, rockers, musicians, they have the the reputation of trashin' hotel rooms and gettin' into trouble.

But he took one look in there and she had her meticulously filed license and registration and the van was super clean, and he went, "Nevermind, get that headlight fixed and be on your way."

-Wow, lucky them.

-(Nikki laughing) You see, cleanliness, remember that.

(laughing) It comes in helpful.

(laughing) But how about everybody else in the band, did everybody like traveling so much?

Well Ron, Ron was the drummer, and he said he really had not traveled much -before he was in the band- -Oh, cool.

He had maybe been as far as Denver.

But because of the band, he got to see New York, Seattle, Los Angeles.

So this really opened up his world for him.

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(low rhythmic music) (rock guitar) ♪ You call me on the telephone and I ♪ ♪ I pick up that piece ♪ ♪ You talk, talk, talk, talk ♪ ♪ I send myself down the line and ♪ ♪ I have to hear your voice say ♪ ♪ It's gonna be all right now ♪ ♪ The world can't get you here ♪ ♪ But even now, even then ♪ ♪ I should have known should have been ♪ ♪ Should have known and should have been ♪ ♪ Should have been like a machine ♪ ♪ And turned it off, but you don't know how ♪ ♪ And so you go through it anyhow ♪ ♪ Thank you God, you love too much ♪ ♪ Stop, listen to me now ♪ ♪ 'Cause this is all I ask of you ♪ ♪ To please, please, please, please ♪ ♪ Don't let this stop you ♪ ♪ Don't bring the smile down, 'cause you're on fire ♪ ♪ Burning bright now ♪ ♪ We're gonna burn this whole place down ♪ ♪ But even now, but even then ♪ ♪ I should have known, what should have been ♪ ♪ I should have known, I should have seen ♪ ♪ Should have been like a machine ♪ ♪ And turned it off, but you don't know how ♪ ♪ So you go through it anyhow ♪ ♪ Thank you God, you love too much ♪ (heavy indie rock music) ♪ If this is a sin, turn me in ♪ ♪ I'm not changing my ways ♪ ♪ If this is a sin, turn me in ♪ ♪ This is where my heart stays ♪ ♪ If this is a sin, then God himself ♪ ♪ Is gonna have to come and drag me off again ♪ ♪ 'Cause there's a smile on my face ♪ ♪ Nobody there that I can tell ♪ ♪ And even now, and even then ♪ ♪ Should have known I had my friend ♪ ♪ Should have known, should have seen ♪ ♪ Should have been like a machine ♪ ♪ And turned it off, but you don't know how ♪ ♪ So you go through it anyhow ♪ ♪ Thank you God, you love too much, love too much ♪ ♪ Oh, oh, oh ♪ (heavy indie rock music) (audience cheering) (bright flourish music) Ron: We did what, 15 years of touring, and we rented I think three motel rooms that whole time.

-Yeah, that whole- Heidi: That's true.

Jon: And so we would go to a place and we'd ask from stage, you know, "Does anybody have a floor for us?"

And we'd show up at the house, and more often than not, there'd be a big party.

Heidi and I would take our Thermarest and our sleeping bags and go find a quiet corner or go upstairs.

And the genius of Mercy Rule, is that Mercy Rule had a designated partier.

His name's Ron, he played drums.

Ron was on a completely, he got to stay on the rock schedule.

And in addition to being a brilliant drummer, he's a brilliant artist.

And he would typically go and tour the town on his own.

You know, him, you know a notebook and two feet, and sketch and draw everything.

But he'd also stay up all night and party with whoever our hosts were.

And so in the morning, we come off as the really cool band that partied all night, yet we got a good night's sleep, and are able to get right back on the road.

Ron: They would shut down so many parties.

We would shut, yeah.

They would just unroll their sleeping bags right in the living room, and all these kids would just be going, "Aw."

And they'd all just have to leave, right?

Jon: If they had a big enough dining room table, you know, if you're the house with a lotta roommates, you could move the chairs and you could like, we would squeeze underneath the dining room table a lotta times, it worked out great.

-(film whirring) -(audience cheering) ♪ Today was just like every other day ♪ ♪ It was me in front of my TV ♪ ♪ I said, well tell today it sucked ♪ ♪ And I'm not gonna live like this anymore ♪ ♪ And I said, well tell tomorrow ♪ ♪ That I've been thinking about ♪ ♪ What I got and what I need, yeah ♪ ♪ Tell tomorrow what I'm looking for ♪ ♪ A simple reason to be alive ♪ ♪ Tell tomorrow what I've been dreaming about ♪ ♪ Tell tomorrow, not today ♪ ♪ Today makes a sad life and I'll never ever love again ♪ Oh today, yeah ♪ ♪ Today is just another day ♪ ♪ I can't wait to forget ♪ ♪ So nothing's gonna break my heart ♪ ♪ She said, ooh, ooh, ooh ♪ ♪ Said nothing's gonna touch me inside ♪ ♪ Ooh, ooh, oh ♪ ♪ Well tell tomorrow, well here's my problem ♪ ♪ Nothing seems to go my way ♪ ♪ Tell tomorrow what my name is ♪ ♪ 'Cause I think that I have forgotten ♪ ♪ Today makes me sad now ♪ ♪ I'll never ever love again, I ♪ ♪ Well today yeah, today it's another day ♪ ♪ I can't wait to forget ♪ ♪ Said nothing's gonna break my heart, she said ♪ ♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh ♪ ♪ Said nothing's gonna touch me inside ♪ ♪ Ooh, oh, oh ♪ ♪ Well, tell tonight that I'm not very happy ♪ ♪ And tell today it sucked like nothing else has ever done ♪ ♪ Tell tonight that I'm not really like this ♪ ♪ Tell today that I'm looking for tomorrow ♪ ♪ Tell tomorrow if the sun has come up ♪ ♪ That I've been looking for something to happen in my life ♪ ♪ Tell tomorrow I've been thinking ♪ ♪ Tell tomorrow I've been dreaming ♪ ♪ Tell tomorrow I'll be right here ♪ -(audience cheering) -(guitar feedback buzzing) We're Mercy Rule, thank you very much for coming.

(audience cheering) (upbeat music) [Nikki] Did that take you back to the '90s, Steve?

Absolutely.

That was Mercy Rule performing right here in the Ron Hull Studio in 1994.

I'm Nikki Bates, here with Steve Graziano.

Now, what a blast it was to go back to way back in the 1990s, just transport you, there was so much going on then.

I looked up the music scene, and some of the music that was charting, Soundgarden.

Oh, yeah.

With "Black Hole Sun," that was released back in '94.

Green Day's "Basket Case."

Weezer, Loser.

So much great, great stuff there.

Oh, yeah, "The Sweater Song," I remember that.

And Pearl Jam released "Vitalogy" too.

-That's right.

-This was a big year for alternative music.

So much great music in 1994, and that includes the local music in Nebraska.

You just heard Mercy Rule, and The Millions are coming up next.

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Heidi and John are married.

So, what was that like performing together?

Yeah, they're still married, and I got to interview them together with the drummer, Ron, and Heidi talked about playing with the band -through her pregnancies.

-Oh, no.

So, yeah, she got pregnant with her first child just a couple years after this concert that we're watching.

So it was in '96.

And she talked to her doctors, she said, "I play in a really loud rock band."

And they said, "You know what?

I think that it's fine, it's safe.

The amniotic fluid, that's gonna be enough of a buffer for the sound.

The baby's safe, you can keep performing."

But she said it was a bit of a trick to keep playing bass with that baby bump in the way.

She kind of had to shift to the side and find a new way to play.

And once the baby was born, I bet it was even harder.

Oh.

Oh, yeah.

They talked about a time that they were playing in New York City and they had a nanny who was traveling with them, and they remember him watching the baby out in the van while they were playing.

(Nikki laughing) They're in New York playing a gig and they've got the nanny watching the baby in the van.

And Steve, you just think about all of the equipment involved, too.

Like, first of all, you've got your guitars, you've got all the musical instruments, you've got the amps and everything, and then you add all of the baby stuff on top of that.

You've got the car seat and all of the things that come along with the baby.

That's a lot of stuff to travel with.

No kidding.

And although I wonder how musical she is now, the baby.

Oh, the babies.

Oh, I don't know if the babies are playing.

Maybe they'll be old enough to start a band now.

So, when their second child came along in 2000, they did decide, John and Heidi thought it's time to take a break.

So they took a short break from music then, but they are still playing today.

-Oh, man.

-So, yeah.

Crazy, crazy stuff going on behind the scenes that we don't know about, but it's fun sharing all this.

Now, I want you to think for a moment what you would pay for a live concert with or without a little baby.

The ticket price, the fees, the gas, the parking, what you'd pay at the concession stand.

And of course, if there is a baby involved, you gotta pay for the babysitter who is gonna be at home, not in the car, hmm.

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(uplifting music) (bright bluesy music) -(filmstrip whirring) -(bright percussive music) [Announcer] Recorded live, it's the Nebraska ETV network's, "33rd Street Sessions" with the music of The Millions, featuring Lori Allison, vocals, Marty Amsler, bass, Harry Dingman III, guitar, -(audience cheering) -and Greg Hill drums.

-Now here's The Millions.

-Thank you.

It's gonna be fun.

♪ I would've followed you anywhere ♪ ♪ Upside down, and became your thoughts and your fears ♪ ♪ Oh ♪ ♪ How can you prove something to nothing ♪ ♪ How can you prove nothing to yourself ♪ ♪ How can you prove something to nothing ♪ ♪ How can you prove nothing to yourself ♪ ♪ I'd follow you anywhere, I followed you too far ♪ ♪ Upside down, I became your thoughts and fears ♪ ♪ Upside down, I lost my cares to you ♪ ♪ To you, whoa ♪ ♪ How can you prove something to nothing ♪ ♪ How can you prove nothing to yourself ♪ ♪ How can you prove something to nothing ♪ ♪ How can you prove nothing to yourself ♪ (instrumental) ♪ How can you prove something to nothing ♪ ♪ How can you prove nothing to yourself ♪ ♪ I would've followed you anywhere ♪ ♪ Upside down, I became your thoughts and fears ♪ ♪ Upside down, I lost my cares to you ♪ ♪ How can you prove something to nothing ♪ ♪ How can you prove nothing to yourself ♪ ♪ Now I'm wearing these away ♪ ♪ Come away, but not with me ♪ ♪ Now you're wearing me away ♪ ♪ Come away, but not with me ♪ ♪ How ♪ (audience cheering) Thanks.

Thanks for coming, all of you, however you got here.

-Thank you.

-(bright flourish music) The Millions went the farthest of anything that I worked with, any group I was with.

And we, you know, started out in like '89, like I said, two of us coming from the New Brass Guns, two of us coming from a band called Four Against.

-And it was like- -♪ How can you prove ♪ -♪ Nothing to yourself ♪ -Kinda super groups.

We played a lot, we all had a lot, we were popular groups.

And so that was kind of a big deal, very interesting and exciting to meld, and start writing songs together.

First it was Marty and Harry, and then I come in, and I can remember being in Marty's room in the Russian Bottoms, his college-like house, you know, and we're writing some weird music together and I'm like, "Turn down the guitar," you know, 'cause I can't hear the vocals, you know?

I'm like, "I need some space.

You guys are all over the place."

I'm like, "You love me."

So we just started writing music together, and Greg joined us, and it was turning out great.

And we had opportunities and we took them, and of course, just like I said, the strengths of everyone, we ended up making demos and sending them out, and getting signed and touring around, and doing all the stuff.

I am really into gratitude these days.

And one thing I'm super grateful for is that opportunity, because what would I have done with that energy, (laughing) if I didn't have this, like a rock and roll band to play in?

I've thought that since.

So yeah, I'm full of it, you know, I was really full of it then, especially pretty young.

I think what?

I'm 24, 23, something like that.

So, no it's, I love, I liked this.

It was really fun, the music was fun.

That was a great dress.

(laughing) (film whirring) (guitar intro) ♪ Easily through the trees, I can see what he is missing ♪ ♪ Gentle wind pulls on my head ♪ ♪ Easily through the trees I can see what he is feeling ♪ ♪ Oh breathe, breathe in clean sweet air ♪ ♪ Tell me what you once were ♪ ♪ Why are you this way ♪ ♪ Tell me if you're mind hurts ♪ ♪ Shall I go away ♪ ♪ Is he always guilty ♪ ♪ Is he always ♪ ♪ Is he always ♪ ♪ Please don't drive me mad ♪ ♪ Love me all you can ♪ ♪ I'll be the one you pray for and serve my faith ♪ ♪ Let me hear your reason ♪ ♪ I need to be strong ♪ ♪ Please don't drive me mad ♪ and serve my faith ♪ ♪ (guitar) ♪ ♪ Carved in stone, left alone, so many troubled faces ♪ ♪ I see them out my window ♪ ♪ Tumble down, roll around, wrestle with the demons ♪ ♪ All the sun turns into rain ♪ ♪ Tell me what you once were ♪ ♪ Why are you this way ♪ ♪ Tell me if your mind hurts ♪ ♪ Shall I go away ♪ ♪ Is he always ♪ ♪ Please don't drive me mad ♪ ♪ Love me all you can ♪ ♪ I'll be the one you pray for, and serve my faith ♪ ♪ Let me hear your reason ♪ ♪ I need to be strong ♪ ♪ Please don't drive me mad ♪ love me ♪ ♪ Trust me, love me ♪ ♪ I can't tell you anything ♪ ♪ I can't tell you any, anything ♪ (bright indie rock music) ♪ Please don't drive me mad ♪ ♪ Love me all you can ♪ ♪ I'll be the one you pray for, and serve my faith ♪ ♪ Let me hear your reason ♪ ♪ I need to be strong ♪ ♪ Please don't drive me mad, love me, my faith ♪ (bright indie rock music) -(audience cheering) -Thanks.

(bright flourish music) So the first record we made was "M Is for Millions."

And the songs that we were playing were from "M Is for Millions", here at the "33rd Street Sessions."

And the second record we made in like '93, '94, was called "Raquel", and a German record company, Four Against had a lotta ties with Europe, and somehow Harry and Greg had this connection and this guy, Ollie, Oly, put out our record and he actually also got us on tour with Sheryl Crow for two and a half weeks in Europe.

(laughing) Before her "Tuesday Music Club" record came out.

Sheryl would always be off, so we wouldn't really see her, but their band and our band got along together and we even had to use some of their equipment, because our stuff didn't really work.

And some of it wasn't as cool as what they had.

You know, those gear guys get together and they share stuff.

And one time in Vienna, everybody's at their tables far back from the stage, and I just hopped down on the dance floor, and singing at them and stuff.

And in between the changing of the things, a rare visit from Sheryl Crow, and she came over to me and said, "I might have to do that."

I'm like, "You won't have to do that.

They're here to see you."

(laughing) So you know, but we talked about rollerblading, and she's short as I am, you know, and it was cool.

But that was a great experience, probably the highlight.

The "33rd Street Sessions" just seem to be, when you think about it, an outcrop of the atmosphere of the time, you know, and the engagement, the excitement, the impetus, you know, "Let's do this.

There's so much great music, let's document it."

Guess who's in the audience?

My grandmother, and she passed in '92.

And I think I talk about her on here, about a song called "Other Crimes."

And then they might pan over to my sweet grandma.

So I remember this night, I remember being in the bathroom putting on my lipstick.

I remember, you know, saying, "God, why can't I wear my glasses," you know?

"I'm gonna look," you know.

So I remember it.

It was a great thing.

It was fun.

I'll say it again, it's one of my favorite documents of my youth, of the time before the band got jaded, my grandma, you know, just the songs, I loved those songs, the energy of the time.

It's like who gets to have that documented, of a really pretty neat part of their life?

That's neat, it's one of my favorites.

-(film whirring) -(audience applauding) Now I have a little story.

The next song's called "Other Crimes", it's about my grandma, she's right back there.

Well yeah, it's about my grandma, and her brother too, this one part.

Her brother, they lived in Germany during the war.

They were all from Latvia, but they moved to Germany.

He drove a bus full of these people.

The Nazis made him drive this bus full of people that were undesirable people.

And he drove into this forest and he just let them off, and then he just drove off.

And you could hear gunshots, sometimes he said, she told me.

He didn't tell me.

♪ (rock intro) ♪ ♪ The passport came from Latvia ♪ ♪ The Nazis stamped it once ♪ ♪ She scratched out the swastika ♪ ♪ But she couldn't see the watermark ♪ ♪ You know I love you ♪ ♪ You're from another time ♪ ♪ You've done things I'll never do ♪ ♪ I live with other crimes ♪ ♪ Her brother, dear brother ♪ ♪ Your brother drove, he drove into the forest ♪ ♪ And let them out ♪ ♪ They were people who never came home ♪ ♪ You know I love you ♪ ♪ You're from another time ♪ ♪ You've done things I'll never do ♪ ♪ I live with other crimes ♪ ♪ If I were there, would I have fought against ♪ ♪ She just tried to live ♪ ♪ And forget what she was in ♪ ♪ Ah ♪ ♪ You know I love you ♪ ♪ You're from another time ♪ ♪ You've done things I'll never do ♪ ♪ I live with other crimes ♪ ♪ Other crimes, other crimes ♪ ♪ You end in line ♪ ♪ She hates to stand in line ♪ ♪ During the war, and there were lines of every kind ♪ ♪ You know I love you ♪ ♪ You're from another time ♪ ♪ You've done things I'll never do ♪ ♪ I live with other crimes ♪ ♪ Other crimes, other crimes ♪ ♪ (fading rock music) ♪ (audience cheering) Thank you, this was pretty fun.

(audience cheering) (rock music) That was The Millions on "33rd Street Sessions."

I'm Nikki Bates here again in the studio reminiscing with Steve Graziano.

Oh, boy.

How cool would it have been to be on tour with Sheryl Crow?

-Very, very cool.

-Wow.

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So, Nikki, who's up next?

Floating Opera is next.

This band has been around since the early '90s.

-You remember them?

-Oh, I do.

Okay.

You'll hear from Charles and Richard from the band in just a moment, but they've had over 50 members since they've been playing -50?

-Yeah, 50 members.

-Not all at once.

-Oh, good.

They float through.

-Do you get it, Floating Opera?

-Yeah, okay.

All right, fine, I'll give it to you.

So actually, you've already seen a couple of the members in this show already from Floating Opera.

Heidi from Mercy Rule, who is the bassist and the front woman, and then Lori, whom we just saw with The Millions, also performing with Floating Opera on our "33rd Street Sessions" stage.

In fact, there's a handful of musicians that we encountered during this in the community of Nebraska musicians that actually performed with a couple of different bands for "33rd Street Sessions."

So, another example is The New High Flyers that's available on Passport.

They performed with jazz violinist Claude Williams from Kansas City.

Yeah, so that was a separate one, they performed as The Lightning Bugs, but all of those are available on Passport if you wanna check those out.

So, Heidi and Lori, did they perform in the next concert?

Yeah, yeah.

They actually performed together with Floating Opera for this recording.

And you'll see Lori in this, but if you wanna see Heidi, that's another one.

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Go to nebraskapublicmedia.org/passport Now, these concerts have been sitting in the basement of our studios and our building here at 33rd Street in Lincoln, hence the name.

(Nikki laughing) But they're still...

They really sound so good.

I wish I could take credit for that part, but that is due to the musicians, and we have a very talented team of audio engineers here.

So, they spent quite a bit of time restoring and remastering the recordings and doing what we call audio sweetening, made them a little sweeter.

Werner is the one who manages that team and they did a lot of the work, so here's a peek into that process.

My name Werner Althaus, I am a audio production supervisor at Nebraska Public Media here in Lincoln.

Today, I'm going to be working on a mastering process for the "33rd Street: From the Vault" series that we are doing currently.

We are looking at dubs from shows that are 30, sometimes 40 years old, and the media and the technology has changed quite a bit.

What we have is dubs from digital sources back in the mid-'90s on forward, but we also have dubs that predate that that are analog, where the entire production process might have been analog.

The recordings don't sound like they did to my ears back in '98, and I'm just trying to bring a little bit of that back.

(gentle guitar music) So that's what that sounds like.

It's a good performance, it sounds fine, but in my opinion, it can be made better.

If I look at... the different elements, and you can see there's some similarities in the curve that always looks the same, but they are different from each other and tuned to this particular act.

This is what that sounds like.

(gentle guitar music) Which is maybe not what the intent was back in 1990, but it's closer to what the intent was because I don't have a way of knowing what the intent was in 1990.

(gentle guitar music) I am just trying to bring back a little bit of what got lost.

That's the way I at it.

(gentle guitar music) ♪ Now I cry ♪ Big thanks to Werner and the audio team for all their work on these.

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(uplifting music) (bright bluesy music) -(film whirring) -(bright percussive music) [Announcer] Tonight on "33rd Street Sessions", a one-time only event, the Lincoln-based critically acclaimed Floating Opera performs before a studio audience.

Tonight, Floating Opera finally becomes a band, as the musicians play on stage together for the first time.

Lori Allison sings lead vocals on "Merseyside."

♪ Danny and me, we wrecked our lives ♪ ♪ Hard up for sights unseen ♪ ♪ Danny and me, we pricked our thumbs ♪ ♪ We swore we'd tell no one ♪ ♪ All along the wall at Merseyside ♪ ♪ I sweat and watch the bobbies passing by ♪ ♪ Scrape the ground for clues and signs ♪ ♪ They walk by, what's on my mind ♪ ♪ Daddy and me, we never got along ♪ ♪ We ate in silence like a Christmas card ♪ ♪ Daddy and me, we're disappointed ♪ ♪ He doesn't say that we're both cornered ♪ ♪ All along the wall at Merseyside ♪ ♪ I sweat and watch the bobbies passing by ♪ ♪ Scrape the ground for signs and clues ♪ ♪ I never know what's eating you ♪ ♪ Danny and me, we wrecked our lives ♪ ♪ Cut our opportunities down to size ♪ ♪ (strings and piano) ♪ ♪ Danny and me, we gave it up ♪ ♪ But we can't seem to tell them enough ♪ ♪ Children walk the tracks at night ♪ ♪ Hit the oil cans with metal pipes ♪ ♪ Children walk the tracks at night ♪ ♪ Hit the oil cans with metal pipes ♪ (audience applauding) (bright flourish music) I was messing around with Floating Opera for a long time.

They had a...well, Why it's called Floating Opera, is because they have a variety of musicians from the town.

I think I was there from the very beginning, when Charles and Richard were writing songs.

And so they're like, "Come and play with us, and do this stuff, you know," so.

♪ I sweat and watch the bobbies passing by ♪ Charles' words, you know, and Richard's music.

I think I enjoyed singing in this group because of the lyrics, the emotive lyrics that Charles Laurence wrote.

Remember that skirt, it's like a big witchy skirt that I never had an opportunity to wear.

I'm like, "I'm wearing that witchy skirt," (laughing) you know, and see-through stuff, it's like '97.

I'm like, classic.

(laughing) The Millions broke up in '95.

I didn't really play music for two years.

So this is '97, this is me just kinda starting to play music again.

(film whirring) [Announcer] "Frankenstein" is the signature song on Floating Opera's latest CD, "Everybody's Somebody's Monster."

♪ Waiting for somebody to change ♪ ♪ You could easily die waiting ♪ ♪ If the black walls and stomach pains are real ♪ ♪ I have got to be going ♪ ♪ Shivering, face to the glass ♪ ♪ Is it the winter, or is it the past?

♪ ♪ Everybody's somebody's monster ♪ ♪ (drums, guitar) ♪ ♪ I sketched you out in charcoal black ♪ ♪ One night in the winter ♪ ♪ But the parts were disproportionate sizes ♪ ♪ Just keep them from showing ♪ ♪ Shivering, face to the glass ♪ ♪ Is the winter, or is it the past?

♪ ♪ Everybody's somebody's monster ♪ (thoughtful indie rock music) ♪ Oh, oh ♪ ♪ Oh, oh ♪ ♪ You called from the land of ice ♪ ♪ I was happy to hear your voice ♪ ♪ I guess the peasants haven't destroyed you yet ♪ ♪ Waiting for somebody to change ♪ ♪ You could easily die waiting ♪ ♪ You forgot you made them that way ♪ ♪ I've got to be going ♪ ♪ Shivering, hands to the glass ♪ ♪ Is it the winter, or is it the past ♪ ♪ Everybody's somebody's monster ♪ ♪ Everybody's somebody's monster ♪ ♪ Everybody's somebody's monster ♪ ♪ Everybody's somebody's monster ♪ ♪ Am I your monster?

♪ ♪ Oh, oh ♪ (audience cheering) ♪ I can't make you come into daylight ♪ ♪ I can't walk you through the fire in my head ♪ ♪ I can't stay away from sleep just to hide you ♪ ♪ I can't talk you through the fire in my bed ♪ ♪ I can't come into daylight ♪ ♪ I can't walk you through the fire in my head ♪ ♪ I can't stay away from sleep just to hide you ♪ ♪ I can't talk you through the fire in my head ♪ ♪ In my bed ♪ ♪ In my head ♪ ♪ In my bed ♪ ♪ In my head ♪