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AMERICAN RECKONING; CO-STARS OF “COMPANY”
Filmmakers Yoruba Richen and Brad Lichtenstein, who together directed and produced Frontline: "American Reckoning," join us to discuss the unsolved murder of a civil rights activist and the legacy of racist killings in America. Also, we honor the late Stephen Sondheim with two of the stars from “Company," Christopher Fitzgerald and Nikki Renée Daniels, who join us tonight.
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MetroFocus: February 15, 2022
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Filmmakers Yoruba Richen and Brad Lichtenstein, who together directed and produced Frontline: "American Reckoning," join us to discuss the unsolved murder of a civil rights activist and the legacy of racist killings in America. Also, we honor the late Stephen Sondheim with two of the stars from “Company," Christopher Fitzgerald and Nikki Renée Daniels, who join us tonight.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship>>> TONIGHT, THE UNSOLVED MURDER OF A CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVIST.
"METROFOCUS" STARTS RIGHT NOW.
♪♪ >> THIS IS "METROFOCUS" WITH RAFAEL PI ROMAN, JACK FORD AND JENNA FLANAGAN.
"METROFOCUS" IS MADE POSSIBLE BY -- >>> I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MORE TIME WE HAVE TO DO THIS.
FRANKLY, YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY.
ALL MR. JACKSON WAS GUILTY OF, HE WANTED A JOB TO MAKE IT BETTER FOR HIS WIFE AND FIVE CHILDREN.
AND YET THEY SAID NEGROS, PLEASE, BE PATIENT.
HOW LONG DO YOU WANT US TO BE PATIENT?
THEN YOU WONDER, WHAT KIND OF JUSTICE ARE WE HAVING?
WHAT KIND OF COUNTRY IS THIS?
♪♪ >> GOOD EVENING.
WELCOME TO "METROFOCUS."
I'M JACK FORD.
THAT WAS A PREVIEW OF "AMERICAN RECKONING," A NEW DOCUMENTARY THAT RE-VISITS THE MURDER OF AN UNSUNG HERO OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT.
JACKSON WAS KILLED BY A CAR BOMB IN MISSISSIPPI IN 1967, SHORTLY AFTER HE ACCEPTED A PROMOTION AT HIS JOB, A MOVE THAT ANGERED MANY OF HIS WHITE CO-WORKERS.
THE FBI CAME IN TO INVESTIGATE.
THERE WERE NO ARRESTS.
JACKSON'S KILLERS WERE NEVER BROUGHT TO JUSTICE.
IT'S MORE THAN ONE OF 100 COLD CASES DATING BACK TO THE CIVIL RIGHTS ERA.
THROUGH DOCUMENTARY FOOTAGE, "AMERICAN RECKONING" TELLS THE STORY OF BLACK RESISTANCE AND THE LEGACY OF RACIAL VIOLENCE DURING THE CIVIL RIGHTS EAR ARE A.
IT ASKS THE QUESTION, WHAT DOES JUSTICE LOOK LIKE FOR THE VICTIMS AND THEIR FAMILIES HALF A CENTURY LATER?
JOINING US NOW TO TALK ABOUT THE FILM AS PART OF OUR CHASING THE DREAM INITIATIVE ON POVERTY, JUSTICE AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY IN AMERICA ARE THE FILMMAKERS.
WELCOME TO THE BOTH OF YOU.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
LET ME BRING YOU IN HERE TO OUR CONVERSATION.
IT'S A FABULOUS FILM.
I KNEW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS STORY COMING INTO IT.
I LEARNED SO MUCH WHEN I WATCHED THIS.
LET ME ASK YOU, THE FIRST QUESTION IS ALWAYS, SO HOW DID THIS FILM COME ABOUT?
BRAD, LET ME START WITH YOU.
YOU ARE IN MISSISSIPPI.
YOU HAD AN EVENT ABOUT THIS LAST NIGHT.
YOU START OFF, IF YOU WOULD, WHAT WAS THE GENESIS OF THE FILM?
>> HI.
I AM IN MISSISSIPPI.
WE HAD AN EVENT TEN MINUTES AGO AT THE COFFEE SHOP.
I APOLOGIZE FOR THE NOISE.
THE FILM CAME ABOUT REALLY IN 2014.
I HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH CONGRESSMAN JOHN LEWIS.
I HAVE BEEN BLESSED TO HAVE MET HIM WHEN I WAS 15.
I WORKED FOR HIS CAMPAIGN.
WE BECAME LIFE LONG FRIENDS.
WHEN I WAS IN HIS OFFICE IN 2014, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT FILM IDEAS.
HIS PRESS SECRETARY, BRENDA JONES, POINTED ME IN THE DIRECTION OF THE TILL ACT, WHICH IS THE EMMITT TILL ACT, WHICH IS A PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT REOPENED A LOT OF THE CASES.
THIS WAS ONE OF THE CASES.
THE FILM STARTED THIS WAY WITH MR. LEWIS.
HE IS IN THE FILM AS WELL.
>> ONE OF THE FASCINATING PARTS OF THAT IS THE EXTRAORDINARY WEALTH OF DOCUMENTARY FOOTAGE THAT YOU HAVE, ACTUAL FOOTAGE FROM THE TIME FRAME.
IT STARTS OFF IN 1965 AND TAKES US THROUGH TO THE MURDER OF WARLESS JACKSON IN 1967.
I'M JUST ASTONISHED BY THE VALUE OF THIS FOOTAGE.
HOW DID YOU OBTAIN IT ALL?
>> WELL, I CAME ON THE PROJECT A FEW YEARS AFTER BRAD HAD STARTED DEVELOPING IT.
HE WAS THE ONE WHO DISCOVERED THAT BLACK NACHES TOLD PART OF WARLESS' STORY.
HE CAN TELL YOU ABOUT THE ARCHIVE HOUSE THAT HE CREATED A RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT PRODUCED -- THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET MORE FOOTAGE, IN FACT, AS WELL.
I CERTAINLY -- WHEN I CAME ON THE FILM AND HE SHOWED ME THE INITIAL TRAILER, I WAS ASTOUNDED BY THIS FOOTAGE THAT WAS SHOWING THE STORY OF WARLESS' MURDER AND THE BLACK RESISTANCE IN REAL TIME.
I HAD NEVER BEEN ABLE TO WORK ON A FILM THAT HAD THIS KIND OF FOOTAGE.
>> BRAD, LET ME ASK YOU FOR OUR VIEWERS, GIVE US A QUICK CAPSULE OF THE FACTS SURROUNDING WARLESS JACKSON AND HIS MURDER.
>> SURE.
WARLESS JACKSON WAS MURDERED IN 1967.
HE WAS MURDERED BY A SUBSET OF THE KLAN CALLED THE SILVER DOLLAR GROUP AND RED GLOVER WHO PLANTED A BOMB UNDER HIS CAR THAT WAS SET TO GO OFF WHEN HE WOULD USE HIS LEFT TURN SIGNAL.
WHICH HE WOULD HAVE DONE ON HIS WAY HOME FROM WORK.
AND SHORTLY BEFORE HIS MURDER, HE HAD RECEIVED A PROMOTION AT THE EMPLOYER, ARMSTRONG TIRE & RUBBER.
HE HAD GOTTEN A PROMOTION THAT WAS CONSIDERED A WHITE MAN'S JOB.
IT WAS ALSO KIND OF THE LAST STRAW FOR THIS GROUP, THE SILVER DOLLAR GROUP.
HELPED TO MOTIVATE THIS KILLING.
THIS GROUP WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR FIVE EARLIER MURDERS AND THE ATTEMPTED ASSASSINATION OF WARLESS' COLLEAGUE, GEORGE METCALF.
THE TWO OF THEM HAD RESTARTED THE NAACP IN 1965 HERE.
WERE CENTRAL AS WELL AS WARLESS' WIFE TO THE MOVEMENT HERE, WHICH INCLUDED A BOYCOTT THAT BROKE THE BACK OF THE WHITE POWER STRUCTURE HERE TO GET DEMANDS MET, INCLUDING THE DEACONS FOR DEFENSE, WHICH I'M SURE WE WILL GET INTO.
>> WHEN YOU WATCH THE FILM, STRUCK BY SO MANY THINGS.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK WAS SIGNIFICANT TO ME IN WATCHING IT IS THE JUXTAPOSITION OF THE CHILDREN OF WARLESS JACKSON, THE VICTIM HERE, AND CONVERSATIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE WITH CHILDREN OF KLAN MEMBERS.
TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT AND THE SENSE OF THAT RELATIONSHIP.
>> YEAH.
BRAD AND I WERE REALLY -- THOUGHT IT WAS -- FROM THE MOMENT WE STARTED WORKING ON THIS FILM AND REALLY THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO BRING OUT THE VOICES OF THE WHITE PERPETRATORS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
YOU DON'T -- I THINK YOU DON'T GET TO SEE THAT ENOUGH.
HOW ARE THOSE STORIES TOLD IN THEIR FAMILY ABOUT WHAT THEY DID AND WHO THEY WERE?
I DON'T THINK -- GENERALLY, UNTIL WE START SEEING -- HEARING THOSE STORIES AND HEARING FROM THOSE DESCENDENTS, IF NOT THE ACTUAL PEOPLE, THEN WE ARE REALLY NOT GOING TO RECKON WITH OUR HISTORY.
I AM DEEPLY APPRECIATIVE.
I THINK WE ARE DEEPLY APPRECIATIVE THAT THOSE CHILDREN OF THE KLAN MEMBERS SPOKE WITH US AND SHARED WHAT THEY KNEW.
>> WERE THEY EASILY WILLING TO TALK WITH YOU ABOUT THIS?
DID YOU HAVE TO CONVINCE THEM TO BECOME PART OF THIS?
>> IT WAS A MIXTURE OF BOTH.
WE WERE REALLY INDEBTED TO STANLEY NELSON, A REPORTER WHO HAS BEEN WORKING ON THESE CASES SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE TILL ACT IN 2008.
HE IS BASED ACROSS THE RIVER IN LOUISIANA.
HE HAD ALREADY BEGUN TALKING WITH SOME OF THE CHILDREN.
SO HE MADE THE INTRODUCTIONS.
IN THE CASE OF DEBORAH TAYLOR, IT WAS VERY PAINFUL FOR HER.
HER FATHER WAS NOT ONLY A RACIST MURDERER, HE WAS A TYRANT AT HOME.
SHE REALLY SUFFERED AS A CHILD.
SO THAT WAS A DIFFICULT THING FOR HER TO TALK ABOUT.
THEN LELAND BOYD, I THINK, HAD A DIFFERENT STRUGGLE THAT HE HAD TO GO THROUGH TO AGREE TO AN INTERVIEW, WHICH WAS THAT IT WAS HIS FATHER, SOMEONE HE RESPECTED, SOMEONE WHO TAUGHT HIM TO PLAY BASEBALL.
HE ENDED UP PLAYING BASEBALL IN THE MINOR LEAGUES.
EVERYBODY -- I THINK EVERYBODY IN THIS FILM, BECAUSE IT'S SUCH -- IT'S A DRAMATIC AND DIFFICULT STORY -- HAD TO WRESTLE WITH THINGS BEFORE SAYING YES TO BEING PART OF IT.
WE'RE GRATEFUL.
>> IT'S INTERESTING YOU COULD HEAR AND SENSE THE PAIN IN THE VOICES OF BOTH THE CHILDREN OF THE VICTIM AND THE CHILDREN OF THE PERPETRATORS HERE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SEE HERE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU TALKING TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY, THEY TALK ABOUT THE NOTION OF WHITE DENIAL.
A CONTINUING NOTION OF WHITE DENIAL.
WHAT'S MEANT BY THAT?
>> YEAH.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DISCOVERED.
WHEN YOU MAKE A FILM, YOU ARE DISCOVERING THESE THEMES.
RIGHT?
AS YOU ARE MAKING THEM.
WHEN CHERYL SAID THAT, IT WAS REAL -- IT RESONATED WITH ALL OF US, BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING THAT TODAY.
THE DENIAL OF OUR HISTORY, EFFORTS TO OUTLAW HISTORY THAT MAKES PEOPLE FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE.
WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?
THE DENIAL OF MASSACRES AND ATTACKS THAT HAD HAPPENED ALL TO BLACK COMMUNITIES ALL THROUGH HISTORY.
WE SAW THE LAST YEAR WITH THE ANNIVERSARY OF TULSA.
PEOPLE EVEN IN TULSA NOT KNOWING WHAT HAPPENED.
TO THEIR FAMILY.
SO I THINK IT'S A REALLY POWERFUL THEME THAT IS IN THE FILM AND THAT IS ALSO A PART OF WHAT WE'RE RECKONING WITH.
AGAIN, I USE RECKONING.
WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH TODAY IN TERMS OF -- THE EFFORTS TO PAPER OVER PAINFUL PARTS OF OUR HISTORY.
>> I THINK RECKONING WORKS ON SO MANY LEVELS AS A TITLE AND AS A THEME THAT'S WOVEN THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THIS.
BRAD, I HAVE GOT A MINUTE AND A HALF HERE.
LET ME COME TO YOU FIRST WITH THIS.
THAT IS, WE HEAR EARLY NONE THE FILM, HOW DO WE GET JUSTICE?
THE QUESTION IS HERE, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A HALF CENTURY LATER, THE GOVERNMENT JUSTICE DEPARTMENT IS LOOKING AT THESE COLD CASES.
THEY LOOKED AT EMMITT TILL.
WE KNOW BYRON BILLIBECKWORTH WAS CONVICTED.
WE ARE NOT SEEING REALLY THE OPENING UP OF THE CASES.
WHAT DOES JUSTICE LOOK LIKE FOR THE FAMILY OF, LET'S SAY, WARLESS JACKSON?
>> NONE OF THE CASES RESULTS IN ANY KIND OF LEGAL ACTION OR CERTAINLY NOT A CONVICTION, AND THEY WON'T.
IN THE CASE OF WARLESS JACKSON, THE MURDERER HAS BEEN DEAD AND HAS BEEN FOR A LONG TIME.
THAT WAS TROUBLING FOR THE FAMILY, TOO, TO SEE SO MUCH FANFARE AROUND THE TILL ACT AND NOTHING WAS GOING TO COME OF IT.
HOWEVER, WHAT DOES JUSTICE LOOK LIKE?
I THINK PART OF WHAT JUSTICE LOOKS LIKE IS SHARING A STORY AND HOPING THAT THAT STORY MAKES A DIFFERENCE.
WARLESS AND DENISE WERE AT AN EVENT HERE AND WHAT DENISE SAID, SHE HOPES THE STORY WILL INSPIRE PEOPLE TO WORK FOR CHANGE IN THEIR LIVES AND ALSO TO NOT RUN AWAY FROM THIS HISTORY, THIS PART OF US.
>> I THINK IN ANY RECKONING, OBVIOUSLY, IT REQUIRES SOME KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD.
BRAD, IT'S A FABULOUS FILM.
I'M URGING PEOPLE TO SEE IT.
I THOUGHT I KNEW SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
I KNOW SO MUCH MORE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
"AMERICAN RECKONING" ON PBS.
LOOK AT METROFOCUS.COM.
STAY WELL.
>> YOU TOO.
>>> GOOD EVENING.
WELCOME TO "METROFOCUS."
I'M JACK FORD.
IT HAS BEEN MORE THAN 50 YEARS SINCE "COMPANY" OPENED ON BROADWAY.
NOW THE TONY AWARD WINNING BEST MUSICAL IS BACK ON THE GREAT WHITE WAY.
IT IS STILL BRILLIANT.
LET'S TAKE A LOOK.
♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ >> WE ARE DELIGHTED TO HAVE TWO OF THE STARS OF "COMPANY" JOINING US NOW.
BROADWAY VETERANS CHRISTOPHER FITZGERALD AND NIKKI RENE DANIELS.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.
>> LOVELY TO BE HERE.
>> AS I SAID IN THE INTRODUCTION, THE SHOW WAS BRILLIANT.
THE TWO OF YOU ARE MARVELLOUS.
YOU PLAY AN INTERESTING COUPLE.
WE WILL GET TO SOME OF THE DETAILS IN A MOMENT.
I FEEL LIKE I HAVE TO START BY ASKING YOU ABOUT THE SPIRIT OF STEPHEN SONDHEIM.
HE WAS AT YOUR OPENING PRODUCTION IN NOVEMBER.
IT WAS, SADLY, LITERALLY LESS THAN TWO WEEKS BEFORE HE SUDDENLY PASSED AWAY.
MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, AS ACTORS, WHAT DID IT MEAN TO YOU TO HAVE THE CREATOR OF YOUR SHOW -- NOT JUST ANY CREATOR, STEPHEN SONDHEIM, THE CREATOR, IN THE AUDIENCE FOR THAT PERFORMANCE?
NIKKI, START WITH YOU, IF I COULD.
>> I MEAN, YOU KNOW, HE IS THE SHAKESPEARE OF MUSICAL THEATER.
I WATCHED "WEST SIDE STORY" LAST NIGHT.
WATCHING IT, I COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT THIS PERSON WHO WROTE THESE LYRICS 60 YEARS AGO WAS THERE FOR OUR REHEARAL PROCESS, WAS AN INTEGRAL PART OF US TWEAKING LITTLE TWEAKS IN THE SCRIPT AND LYRICS.
TO HAVE HIM IN THE REHEARAL ROOM AND IN THE AUDIENCE WHEN WE DID THE SHOW IS AN AMAZING THING.
IT'S AN HONOR TO PERFORM FOR HIM WHILE HE WAS HERE WITH US.
>> CHRIS, HOW ABOUT YOU?
>> BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, WE HAD BEGUN PREVIEWS.
HE HAD COME SEVERAL TIMES DURING THAT PROCESS TO SOME REHEARSALS.
WE HAD A RECEPTION AFTER ONE OF THE PREVIEWED.
NIKKI, I DON'T REMEMBER IF YOU WERE THERE.
YOU PROBABLY WERE.
WE HAD DRINKS.
>> YEAH, YEAH.
>> HE PARKED HIMSELF AT A SEAT.
ALMOST ONE AT A TIME, WE WENT OVER AND HAD TIME JUST TO SPEND WITH HIM ONE ON ONE.
IT WAS REALLY -- HE ALWAYS LOVES TO TALK ABOUT HIS COLLABORATORS.
GEORGE FIRTH WAS IN HIS MIND AS HE WAS SPEAKING.
TALKING ABOUT HIS BRILLIANCE AND WHAT HE BROUGHT TO THE SHOW ITSELF.
THEN COMING OUT OF THE PANDEMIC, THE IDEA THAT HE WAS STILL ABLE TO COME AND BE A PART OF THE EXPERIENCE AGAIN.
HE WASN'T ABLE TO COME TO REHEARSALS.
BUT HAVING HIM THERE AT THAT FIRST PREVIEW, IT WAS -- IT'S SO INTERESTING TO TALK ABOUT IN HINDSIGHT BECAUSE TWO WEEKS LATER HE PASSED AWAY.
I CAN SAY THAT THE ENERGY AND THE ELECTRICITY FROM THE CAST, FROM THE AUDIENCE, IT WAS SUCH A MOMENTOUS MOMENT ANYWAY, BUT TO HAVE HIM PRESENT JUST MADE IT KIND OF ALMOST LIKE THEATER LORE.
THE IDEA HE WAS THERE TWO WEEKS OR SO THAT HE PASSED.
I JUST REMEMBER, WE WERE SO NERVOUS.
>> I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU ABOUT THAT.
I SAW A VIDEO -- SOMEBODY TAPED IT OF HIM COMING INTO THE THEATER AND EVERYBODY IS STILL.
THEY REALIZED WHO HE WAS AND THEY STAND UP AND A STANDING OVATION.
THE CAST COMES OUT AND SAYS, THIS IS DEDICATED TO YOU.
I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU ABOUT THAT.
YOU ARE VETERANS.
THE TWO OF YOU HAVE DONE A LOT OF STUFF, A LOT OF HIGH-QUALITY WORK.
DO YOU GET NERVOUS?
DO YOU LOOK OVER AND SAY, IS HE LAUGHING?
WHAT'S HE DOING OVER THERE?
>> THAT'S LITERALLY ALL I WAS THINKING ABOUT WAS HIM THAT NIGHT.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, NIKKI.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
JUST THE IDEA THAT HE IS SITTING HERE SIX ROWS BACK WATCHING US.
>> I CAN'T IMAGINE FOR HIM WHAT IT MUST FEEL LIKE TO HAVE SUCH REVERENCE PLACED UPON YOU.
I MEAN, HE HAD SO MANY WAYS OF DEFLECTING IT WITH JOKES AND WITH STORIES AND ANECDOTES.
BUT IT WAS -- TO SEE HIM AFTER THAT EVENING AT THE PREVIEW, HE CAME BACK INTO THE LOBBY.
WE HUNG OUT WITH HIM THERE.
>> WHAT A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
>> WE ALL SURROUND HIM.
WE'RE ALL, YOU KNOW, STARING AT HIM, WAITING FOR THE NEXT WORDS HE SAYS.
HERE HE IS TRYING TO KIND OF THROW IT OFF.
HE WAS JUST SO GENEROUS.
I JUST -- MY MEMORY IS THAT HE WAS SO HAPPY THAT NIGHT.
>> WHAT GREAT MEMORY TO HAVE OF HIM.
I HAVE INTERVIEWED HIM IN THE PAST.
HE WAS ALL OF THOSE THINGS YOU SAID.
LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE SHOW ITSELF.
I MENTIONED, IT'S MORE THAN 50 YEARS OLD.
WE HAVE NOT SEEN IT BEFORE LAST WEEK.
I HAD SEEN CLIPS OF IT.
WE KNEW THE MUSIC.
BUT I WAS STRUCK BY A COUPLE OF THINGS.
ONE WAS, IT SEEMED TIMELESS.
IT DIDN'T SEEM DATED.
SOMETIMES WHEN YOU SEE A SHOW FROM A HALF A CENTURY AGO, YOU SAY, THIS IS WONDERFUL, BUT I CAN TELL IT WAS WRITTEN HALF A CENTURY AGO.
WHY DO YOU THINK THIS REMAINS SO TIMELY?
NIKKI, YOU FIRST.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> WELL, I THINK ANY WELL-WRITTEN PIECE CAN WITHSTAND THE TEST OF TIME.
I REFERENCED SHAKESPEARE BEFORE.
WE RELATE TO THOSE PLAYS FROM HUNDREDS OF YEARS AGO.
I THINK THAT IT'S A WELL-WRITTEN PIECE, NUMBER ONE.
ALSO, NUMBER TWO, WE MADE A FEW TWEAKS TO MAKE IT MORE 2020 WITH A FEMALE BOBBY INSTEAD OF A MALE.
WITH THE CELLPHONES AND THINGS WE DID TO BRING IT INTO TODAY.
WE REALLY DIDN'T CHANGE A HUGE AMOUNT AS FAR AS THE WORDS ON THE PAGE.
I THINK THE WRITING IS JUST SO GOOD THAT WE ARE ABLE TO MAKE IT WORK FOR TODAY.
>> I SAW THAT YOUR CHARACTER -- THE TWO OF YOU IS A LITTLE TWIST FROM THE FIRST ONE.
NIKKI, YOU ARE OUT THERE WORKING PART OF THE COUPLE.
CHRIS, YOU ARE THE HOME.
YOU HAVE YOUR SHORTS ON AND POLO SHIRT.
YOU DO A FUNNY THING WITH YOUR SHORTS.
I WILL JUST LEAVE IT OUT THERE AT THAT.
CHRIS, LET ME ASK YOU THIS.
I WAS STRUCK BY HOW FUNNY THIS SHOW IS.
I DON'T KNOW WHY -- WHAT I EXPECTED.
BUT I WAS STRUCK BY HOW FUNNY IT IS.
HAVE YOU GOTTEN THAT REACTION FROM PEOPLE?
>> YES.
I MEAN, AUDIENCES SEEM -- ARE LAUGHING FROM THE MOMENT WE START, ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
TO THE HOME RUNS FROM PATTY LAPONE AT THE END.
YOUR CLEANUP HITTER AT THE END OF THE SHOW KNOCK THE AUDIENCE JUST INTO THE STREET IN A DAZE OF GOODNESS.
IT IS SO FUNNY.
GEORGE FIRTH, I THINK, WAS A BIG PART OF THAT.
JUST SUCH -- THE STORY -- I FEEL LIKE IT'S TIMELESS BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS, ABOUT FRIENDSHIPS, IT'S ABOUT FINDING, YOU KNOW, YOUR COMMUNITY, FINDING HOW YOU FIT IN THE WORLD, IN THIS CONTEMPORARY WORLD.
SO ALL OF THOSE THEMES ARE JUST SO PRESENT NOW.
I MEAN, THERE ARE THINGS WE TALK ABOUT ALL THE TIME.
WE'RE ALL STILL GOING THROUGH.
MY CHARACTER WAS PLAYED BY A WOMAN.
THERE'S TROPES IN THERE.
SOME OF THE FEMALE CHARACTERS JUST KIND OF -- THE WAY THEY WERE WRITING, WERE KIND OF -- THEY WERE DITSY, STANDARD SUBURBAN TROPE CHARACTER.
I DON'T BLAME THEM FOR WRITING THOSE CHARACTERS AT THAT TIME.
WE HAVE EVOLVED SO MUCH.
IT'S FUN TO FLIP IT ON ITS HEAD AND LOOK AT THAT TIME THROUGH THOSE ANGLES NOW WHERE THE IDEA THAT YOU COULD SEE IT AND KIND OF SAY, I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS WAS WRITTEN AT THAT TIME.
IT ALL SEEMS SO -- IT ALL MAKES SENSE.
>> I WENT BACK TO LOOK AT THE 1970 PRODUCTION.
I WANTED TO SEE HOW DIFFERENT IT WAS AFTER I SAW YOU ALL PERFORMING.
I WAS STRUCK BY YOUR CHARACTERS.
THERE'S SOME OTHER COUPLES THAT THINGS HAVE BEEN FLIPPED AROUND A BIT, AGAIN, TO MAKE THEM MORE TIMELY AND MEANINGFUL FOR US.
LET ME COME BACK TO SOMETHING YOU MENTIONED WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE AUDIENCE.
WHAT HAVE YOU SEEN IN TERMS OF THE AUDIENCE'S REACTION, GETTING BACK INTO LIVE THEATER AND SEEING THIS?
NIKKI, WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN SEEING?
>> I WAS PRETTY SURPRISED.
I THOUGHT WITH AN AUDIENCE FULL OF PEOPLE MASKED, ARE THEY GOING TO NOT RESPOND AS MUCH?
ARE THEY GOING TO SCREAM AND CLAP?
IT'S BEEN PRETTY NORMAL AS FAR AS PERFORMING AND GETTING THE REACTION FROM THE AUDIENCE, WHICH HAS BEEN REALLY GREAT.
WE HAVE HAD -- WE HAVE BEEN LUCKY TO HAVE FULL HOUSES LATELY.
THEY SEEM TO REALLY BE ENJOYING IT.
WE HAVE BEEN GETTING POSITIVE FEEDBACK ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
BROADWAY IS BACK AND WE FOUND A WAY TO SURVIVE IN THIS PANDEMIC.
>> CHRIS, I MENTIONED TO YOU WHEN WE WERE TALKING BEFORE WE STARTED THIS, THE PERFORMANCE THAT WE SAW LAST WEEK, IT WAS A MATINEE, AND AS THE CURTAIN CAME UP, THE CROWD WENT CRAZY.
NOBODY HAD DONE ANYTHING.
THE CROWD JUST WENT CRAZY.
THE SENSE WAS, IT'S BACK.
WE ARE BACK.
YOU ARE ALL BACK.
>> THERE'S AN IMPLIED -- I BELIEVE THERE'S -- IT FEELS LIKE THERE'S THIS IMPLIED DIALOGUE BETWEEN THOSE OF US WHO ARE PRESENTING THE EVENING OF ENTERTAINMENT AND THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING IT, THAT WE ARE DOING SOMETHING IN SPITE OF.
WE ARE ALL KIND OF -- THERE'S THIS MOMENT ALMOST THAT WHEN THE -- WHEN WE START I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A CELEBRATION OF THE FACT THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY DOING THIS THING TOGETHER.
THAT'S THE THEATER.
THE THEATER IS TOGETHER.
IT'S LIVE.
IT'S NEVER THE SAME ON ANY GIVEN NIGHT.
YOU MAKE THIS CONTRACT WITH EACH OTHER THAT WE'RE GOING TO SIT HERE FOR TWO AND A HALF HOURS, MAYBE LONGER, JUST A TAD LONGER, AND WE'RE ALL GOING TO KIND OF MAKE THIS CONTRACT TOGETHER THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS EXPERIENCE TOGETHER.
REALLY, YOU DO -- YOU ARE HAVING AN EXPERIENCE.
THE AUDIENCE IS HAVING AN EXPERIENCE.
AND YOU SHARE IT.
>> IT HAPPENS.
I WISH WE HAD MORE TIME TO TALK.
THEATER IS WHAT WE LOOK TO WHEN WE NEED MEANING AND HELP.
IT'S "COMPANY."
IT'S BRILLIANT.
THANK YOU, NIKKI AND CHRIS, FOR SPENDING TIME WITH US.
YOU BE WELL.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
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