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REMEMBERING GEORGE FLOYD
Today marks two years since a former Minneapolis police officer murdered George Floyd. His shocking death compelled the world to stand up, speak out, and educate themselves to mobilize in the fight against racism. In tonight’s special rebroadcast, we welcome George Floyd’s family, aunts Angela Harrelson and Mahalia Jones, as they remember their late nephew.
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Metrofocus: May 25, 2022
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Today marks two years since a former Minneapolis police officer murdered George Floyd. His shocking death compelled the world to stand up, speak out, and educate themselves to mobilize in the fight against racism. In tonight’s special rebroadcast, we welcome George Floyd’s family, aunts Angela Harrelson and Mahalia Jones, as they remember their late nephew.
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I'M JENNA FLANAGAN.
TOMORROW NIGHT WE'LL BE BRINGING YOU SPECIAL COVERAGE OF THE HORRIFIC MASS SHOOTING IN UVALDE TEXAS, WHERE 19 CHILDREN AND TWO TEACHERS WERE TRAGICALLY MURDERED.
COMING DAYS AFTER SHOOTINGS IN BUFFALO, HOUSTON, MILWAUKEE AND NEW YORK CITY.
SO FAR THIS YEAR, OVER 200 MASS SHOOTINGS IN THE UNITED STATES, AND IT'S ONLY MAY.
TONIGHT FOCUSING ON GROILD, AND CHANGES IN LEGISLATION ACROSS THE COUNTRY AS TODAY MARKS THE TWO-YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF FLOYD'S TRAGIC MURDER AT HANDS OF DEREK CHAUVIN.
DISCUSS WITH HIS AUNTS WHO SAT DOWN TO DISCUSS UNFINISHED FIGHT FOR RACIAL JUSTICE.
"METROFOCUS" STARTS RIGHT NOW.
♪♪ >> THIS IS "METROFOCUS" WITH RAFAEL PI ROMAN, JACK FORD AND JENNA FLANAGAN.
"METROFOCUS" IS MADE POSSIBLE BY -- SUE AND EDGAR WACHENHEIM III, THE PETER G. PETERSON AND JOAN GANZ COONEY FUND.
BERNARD AND DENISE SCHWARTZ, BARBARA HOPE ZUCKERBERG, THE AMBROSE MONELL FOUNDATION, AND BY -- >>> JOINING US TO HONOR AND REMEMBER GEORGE OR PERRY AS HIS FAMILY KNEW HIM ARE HIS AUNTS, ANGELA HARRELSON AND MAJALIA JONES.
THEY'LL TALK ABOUT THE MAN THEY KNEW AS A LITTLE BOY, THE WORK THEY'RE DOING TO PRESERVE HIS MEMORY AND HOW THEIR FAITH HAS NOURISHED THEM IN THEIR LOSS AS WELL AS THE IMPACT FLOYD HAS HAD ON THE WORLD.
WELCOME BACK TO "METROFOCUS."
THANKS FOR JOINING ME.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> VERY QUICKLY FOR OUR AUDIENCE SO THEY KNOW, CAN YOU JUST SAY HI TO THE AUDIENCE?
>> HI.
>> AND ANGELA?
>> HI.
>> OKAY.
SO WITH THAT OUT OF THE WAY, I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT YOUR HAPPY MEMORIES, OR AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, THE LITTLE BOY AS I SAID IN THE INTRO YOU BOTH HAD A CHANCE TO KNOW, SO FREQUENTLY WE ONLY KNOW THE TRAGIC END BUT CAN YOU GIVE US A FULLER PICTURE OF PERRY AS YOU KNEW HIM?
>> I MET PERRY WHEN HE WAS 4 YEARS OLD, WHEN MY SISTER CAME TO LIVE WITH US THROUGH HARD TIMES.
PERRY WAS AN ADVENTUROUS KID.
WE DIDN'T HAVE RUNNING WATER, HAD OUTDOOR TOILETING, SO WHEN MY SISTER BROUGHT PERRY AND OTHER TWO KIDS TO LIVE WITH US, HE WAS ADAPTABLE.
I REMEMBER HIM STAYING ON TOP OF THE LITTLE TREE STUMP TRYING TO PUMP THE WATER, TRYING TO TEACH HIM.
HE FELL RIGHT INTO IT.
USED OUTHOUSE.
WE SHOWED HIM HOW TO USE IT, HE NEVER COMPLAINED, JUST DID IT.
AND HE ADAPTED REALLY, REALLY WELL.
AND FAST FORWARD ON, YOU KNOW, AS HE GOT OLDER AND PLAYING SPORTS AND STUFF, 6'8", TOO BIG FOR US TO PLAY WITH AND TELL WHAT TO DO, YOU KNOW, HE WAS A VERY HUMBLE GUY.
WOULD DO ANYTHING, WOULD GIVE YOU THE SHIRT OFF HIS BACK.
THAT'S HOW PERRY WAS.
AND ONE OF HIS FAVORITE SAYINGS WAS RIGHT ON, RIGHT ON, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING?
PERRY, WE GOING TO DO THIS TODAY, NO, I DON'T WANT TO, OKAY, RIGHT ON, RIGHT ON.
I MISS HEARING HIM SAY THAT, HE WAS SO FUNNY.
IT WAS SO FUNNY.
WHEN HE WAS A LITTLE BITTY BOY, WE THOUGHT HE LOOKED LIKE FLIP WILSON, THE FAMOUS COMEDIAN, JUST LIKE HIM.
ONE PARTICULAR MOMENT I TOLD MY SISTER, HAVE HIM DO THE FLIP WILSON ACT, USED TO SAY WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET, HIS TAGLINE.
JUST PUT A WIG ON HIM AND HAVE HIM DO IT.
>> MY GOODNESS.
>> SISTER SAID NO, NOT GOING TO DO THAT TO MY BOY.
AND YOU KNOW, GOT OLDER, TEASE HIM, PERRY DO YOU REMEMBER ME -- I THINK I REMEMBER SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
GOOD, AT LEAST YOU DON'T REALLY REMEMBER IT.
ANYWAY, WHEN HE GOT -- SO FUN.
WHEN HE GOT OLDER, JUST THE FACT BEING HERE, JOKING WITH, HOW YOU DOING AUNTIE, WHAT YOU GOT GOING ON TODAY.
LET'S DO THIS TODAY, THAT TODAY.
I MEAN IT WAS JUST -- JUST FOND MEMORIES.
EVEN WENT TO HIS MOTHER'S FUNERAL TOGETHER, WE ALL DID.
THAT WAS A TOUGH ONE BECAUSE IT WAS A TURNING POINT FOR HIM.
PERRY LOVED CHURCH, READ THE BIBLE ALMOST EVERY DAY.
LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT, HE WAS VERY SPIRITUAL.
LITTLE BIT MORE SO.
OUR SHOW AIRS IN THE NEW YORK METROPOLITAN AREA, AND STORIES, PERRY WASN'T THAT OLD, NOT OVER 100, I SAY THAT TO SAY THAT STORIES THAT INCLUDE NO RUNNING WATER AND OUTHOUSE AND THINGS LIKE -- WHERE DOES THIS TAKE PLACE SO PEOPLE FULLY UNDERSTAND.
>> THIS HAPPENED IN NORTH CAROLINA.
OUR PARENTS WERE SHARECROPPERS.
I MEAN THERE'S 12 YEARS AGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US, TEND TO THINK WE'RE PERRY'S SISTERS BUT WE'RE HIS AUNTS.
>> WE'RE THE YOUNGEST.
THE YOUNGEST AUNTS.
WE LIVED THAT LIFESTYLE BECAUSE OUR PARENTS MOST OF THEIR LIVE WERE SHARECROPPERS, UNEDUCATED AND IT WAS BEST LIFE THEY COULD PROVIDE FOR US AT THAT TIME.
UNTIL OUR FATHER GOT A JOB AS A COOK.
>> OF COURSE.
OF COURSE.
I WOULD LOVE TO GET YOUR MEMORIES OF PERRY AND WHAT HE WAS LIKE.
>> LIKE ANGELA SAID, WE HAD MOMENTS WE DID TEASE HIM ABOUT FLIP WILSON, HIS MOTHER, MY SISTER, LOOKING LIKE FLIP WILSON, ONE OF THE FUNNIEST THINGS, LAUGH AND JOKE ABOUT THAT BACK THEN.
AND HE WAS HUMBLE.
YES, SIR, YES, MA'AM, VERY RESPECTFUL, MY SISTER RAISED HIM VERY WELL.
VERY RESPECTFUL.
AND VERY KIND.
ALWAYS TALKED WITH HIM.
>> THE STORIES YOU BOTH TELL PAINT A PICTURE OF, SOUNDS LIKE, ALL-AMERICAN KID, PERHAPS NOT IN THE SITUATION THAT EVERYONE WOULD THINK OF, BUT SOUNDS VERY MUCH LIKE ALL-AMERICAN KID.
BUT THERE WAS SO MUCH FOCUS, HE WAS AS A MAN, ET CETERA.
YOU BOTH HAVE BEEN VERY CLEAR ABOUT THE FACT THAT YOU FOUND HIM TO BE A VERY GOOD PERSON WHO WASN'T PERFECT.
AND THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF FOCUS ON WHETHER OR NOT HE WAS GOOD ENOUGH TO BE THE RIGHT EXAMPLE TO PERHAPS LEAD A MOVEMENT.
YOU'RE NODDING, COULD YOU SPEAK TO THAT?
>> COULD YOU REPEAT THAT?
>> SO MUCH FOCUS ON THE FACT HE WASN'T PERFECT WE HEARD FROM MEDIA PUNDITS.
AS I UNDERSTAND, THE FAMILY'S INSISTENCE WAS HE WASN'T PERFECT BUT THAT WASN'T THE POINT.
>> NO, HE WASN'T PERFECT.
BATTLING ADDICTION AND ONGOING, BUT STILL A HUMAN BEING WHO TREATED PEOPLE KIND.
WE ALL HAVE OUR MOMENTS, BUT HE WAS A GOOD GUY.
HE REALLY WAS.
AND WHAT HAPPENED -- >> I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE WHAT THAT'S BEEN LIKE FOR THE FAMILY.
WHAT I DO WANT TO ASK YOU IN REGARDS TO THE WAY THAT HE WAS LOST WAS HOW DID THE FAMILY THEN TRY TO REACT?
THIS ISN'T JUST DIGESTING THE LOSS OF A LOVED ONE, THIS IS ALSO DIGESTING MEDIA INQUIRIES AND BECOMING LIKE -- YOUR NEPHEW SUDDENLY BECAME IN DEATH ALMOST A GLOBAL CELEBRITY, LEADING THIS MOVEMENT.
HOW DID YOU GUYS BEGIN TO EVEN ABSORB THAT?
AND NAVIGATE IT?
>> IN THE BEGINNING IT WAS VERY OVERWHELMING.
I THINK FOR THE FAMILY, BECAUSE WE WERE ALL EXPERIENCING THE PAIN OF LOSING HIM DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE WE ALL HAD A DIFFERENT RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM.
SO IT WAS KIND OF SURREAL FOR US.
AND SO -- BUT THROUGH UNITY AND HOLDING STRONG TOGETHER, THAT'S REALLY HOW WE ALL MADE IT.
I THINK THE FACT IS WE ALL CAME FROM HUMBLE BEGINNINGS.
AND PEOPLE ALWAYS SAY PERRY'S HUMBLE, VERY COMMON WORLD.
WE WERE RAISED FROM HUMBLE BEGINNINGS, IT WAS LOVE AND UNITY AND HUMBLE BEGINNINGS KEPT US GROUNDED, HELPED US SEE CLEARER PICTURE WITH WHAT WAS GOING ON, WITH THE MEDIA AND PEOPLE PULLING YOU HERE AND THERE, YOU HAVE TO STAY GROUNDED AND FOCUSED.
WITH THAT WE WERE ABLE AS A FAMILY TO STAY FOCUSED ON THE CAUSE.
WE HAVE TO BE HIS VOICE.
WE HAVE TO LEAD THE WAY FOR HIM.
AND IN SOME WAYS WE'RE HUMBLED BY THE SUPPORT WE'VE GOTTEN FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD.
WE'RE SOMETIMES IT'S UNREAL KNOWING HE IS A GLOBAL CELEBRITY.
>> YES.
WE DID NOT EXPECT -- >> DIDN'T EXPECT LIKE THAT.
>> -- TO HAPPEN, LIKE BITTERSWEET, AS I WILL PUT IT.
IT SADDENED ME AND THE WHOLE WORLD WHAT HAPPENED, HOW HE DIED, BUT TO HAVE THE MOVEMENT, PEOPLE FELT WHAT WE FELT, LIKE IT MEANT INJUSTICE, THIS IS REAL.
OTHER THAN THAT, DO THE RIGHT THING.
BUT IT WAS JUST OVERWHELMING, EVERYBODY FELT LIKE WE FELT.
AND IT'S TOUCHING.
YOU KNOW WHAT, IT STILL IS.
IT STILL IS.
>> THE SUPPORT THAT PEOPLE HAVE SHOWN US IS VERY MOVING.
>> REALLY IS.
AND THERE'S NOT A DAY I WALK BY SOMEBODY DOESN'T SAY I'M SO SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS.
GOES BACK AGAIN.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
BUT THE MOVEMENT COME OUT OF THIS IS SO POSITIVE, YOU KNOW, PUSHING FOR EQUALITY, JUSTICE, AND EVEN REFORM BILLS AND THINGS THAT HAPPENED, PEOPLE COMING TOGETHER.
AND WE'RE STILL WORKING TOGETHER AND PUSHING IT.
RECOGNIZE THAT RACIAL POLICE BRUTALITY IS NOT -- IT'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE PEOPLE AWARE AND LET THEM KNOW WE GOT TO FIX THIS.
WE GOT TO FIX IT.
MAYBE NOT FIX EVERYTHING, BUT WE CAN WORK ON IT, WORK HARD AND SEE PEOPLE, DON'T PACIFY WRONGDOING, DON'T PACIFY.
SAY HEY, MAN, THIS IS WRONG.
YOU KNOW.
MAKE THEM RESPONSIBLE AND ACCOUNTABLE.
>> I UNDERSTAND ALSO THAT THE FAMILY AND QUITE UNDERSTANDABLY THROUGH SOMETHING THIS SHOCKING, EARTH SHATTERING AND DEEPLY TRAGIC, DREW ON YOUR FAITH A LOT TO BE ABLE TO SURVIVE ALL OF THIS.
I WAS WONDERING IF YOU BOTH COULD SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT.
>> DEFINITELY OUR FAITH, WE WAS RAISED, MOTHER WAS A PRAYING WOMAN, GRANDMOTHER WAS A PRAYING WOMAN.
>> MY GOD.
>> FROM A PRAYING FAMILY.
AND SOMETIMES IN DARKEST MOMENT FAITH IS ALL THAT WE HAVE.
HOLDING ON TO THAT FAITH AND, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU CAN'T -- FAITH IS SOMETHING YOU'RE HOLDING ON TO IT, DON'T KNOW THE FUTURE YET BUT HOLDING ON TO IT.
FAITH GIVE US THAT HOPE, YOU KNOW.
CAN'T HAVE FAITH WITHOUT HOPE.
>> UH-HUH.
>> THAT'S WHAT FAITH DID FOR US, IT GAVE US THAT HOPE THAT WE NEEDED TO PULL US THROUGH THIS TRAGEDY.
>> YES.
>> PERRY HUNG IN 9:29 MINUTES.
HE WAS FIGHTING TO LIVE.
AND THINGS DIDN'T WORK OUT FOR HIM.
BUT HE FOUGHT THAT BATTLE FOR US.
AND WHEN I LOOK BACK ON IT, BECAUSE HE FOUGHT TO LIVE, THAT WAS HIS BRAVERY.
HE MAY NOT HAVE DIED OF DIGNITY BUT CERTAINLY DIED OF BRAVERY.
>> YES, HE DID.
>> BECAUSE OF HIS DEATH, HE'S OPENED A DOOR FOR CHANGE AND CHANGES I NEVER THOUGHT THAT WOULD HAPPEN HERE.
LOOK AT POLICE BRUTALITY MORE INTENSELY AND CLOSELY, OPENING UP OLD CASES THAT PEOPLE JUST THREW AWAY.
POLICE REFORM LIKE MY SISTER SAID.
BANNING CERTAIN CHOKE HOLDS AND NOW LOOK AT GEORGE FLOYD JUSTICE IN POLICE ACT THAT WE KNOW WILL BE PASSED.
GOOD THINGS HAS HAPPENED BECAUSE CHANGE IS HERE.
>> MAHALIA, I SEE YOU NODDING YOUR HEAD THROUGH ALL OF THAT.
>> I'M JUST HERE.
>> NO, I BELIEVE IT, IT'S STILL GOT TO BE SO INCREDIBLY EMOTIONAL.
I'M WONDERING, RELYING ON FAITH TO GET THROUGH SOMETHING THAT'S AGAIN SO UNIQUE AND SO UNIQUELY TRAUMATIZING, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S ALLOWED A LOT OF THE FAMILY MEMBERS, YOURSELVES INCLUDED, TO SORT OF FIND YOUR OWN VOICE.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU BOTH HAVE DEDICATED YOURSELVES TO SOCIAL JUSTICE, BUT OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS AS WELL.
>> YES.
>> YES.
>> YES.
ACTUALLY OUR -- GARY, A NAVY, IN THE NAVY, JUST STEPPED UP.
GARY JONES, IN -- SAN DIEGO CALIFORNIA?
HE'S STEPPED UP TO BE ACTIVIST, WE'RE SO PROUD OF HIM.
MY NIECE, ALSO THE COCHAIR OF GEORGE FLOYD GLOBAL MEMORIAL, SHE'S OUT THERE HITTING THE PAVEMENT.
WE HAVE OF COURSE THE BROTHERS, RODNEY, PJ, YOU GUYS KNOW, WE CALL HIM PJ.
BRANDON, TERRENCE, BRIDGET.
MY BROTHER SELWIN IN SOUTH DAKOTA, ALL PUTTING IT DOWN.
CAN'T OFTEN BE EVERYWHERE TOGETHER BUT ALWAYS CHEERING EACH OTHER ON.
CHERITA, TARA IN HOUSTON.
THERE'S SO MANY MORE, HOPE I DON'T FORGET ANYONE, BUT EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE SAY I SAW SOMEONE OVER THERE, CAN'T ALL BE TOGETHER BUT WE'RE FAMILY, KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, DO OUR BEST TO KEEP IN TOUCH, CHEERING FOR EACH OTHER BECAUSE WE ALL WANT THE SAME GOAL, THE SAME THING.
>> HAS THE SOCIAL JUSTICE WORK HELPED WITH THE PROCESSING OF THE TRAUMA?
HAS THAT HELPED KNOW THAT YOU'RE AT LEAST DOING SOMETHING SO THAT THIS WASN'T JUST ANOTHER INCIDENT IN YET ANOTHER NAME ADDED TO INCREDIBLY TRAGICALLY LONG LIST?
>> IT HAS HELPED ME QUITE A BIT.
I WAS HERE IN MINNEAPOLIS WHEN ALL THIS WENT DOWN, AND WHEN THE FAMILY COME, THEY GOT TO GO AWAY, SO I DIDN'T HAVE A SISTER OR BROTHER HERE.
PERRY WAS LIKE THE CLOSEST FAMILY THAT I HAD HERE.
AND SO THAT WAS REALLY DIFFICULT, SO I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
BUT AS I GO BACK TO HIS BRAVERY, SEEING HIM MUSTER THE WORDS OUT, I CAN'T BREATHE AND THAT PAIN.
I SAID IF HE CAN DO THAT, I CAN TRY TO FIND A WAY TO HAVE A VOICE FOR HIM.
>> OH, YES.
>> YOU KNOW, IF HE CAN SAY THE WORDS I CAN'T BREATHE, HAVING A VOICE, TELLING MR. CHAUVIN I NEED HELP, HE WAS TRYING TO SAY I NEED HELP.
I GOT TO FIND A WAY.
SO THAT'S WHAT I DID.
SO I JUST WENT OUT THERE AND GOT INVOLVED WITH THE COMMUNITY HERE IN MINNEAPOLIS.
AND WE STARTED THE GEORGE FLOYD GLOBAL MEMORIAL.
>> IT'S NICE.
>> IT'S NICE AND SACRED PLACE.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF I WAS GOING THE RIGHT THING, IF I WAS DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY, JUST KNOW I GOT TO DO IT.
THIS IS FOR PERRY, THIS IS FOR -- JUSTICE FOR ALL.
AND I SAID, AND USED TO -- I WASN'T REALLY SURE, BUT WHEN WE GOT THAT VERDICT, NOW I WALK OUT WITH A DIFFERENT WALK.
>> OH, YEAH.
>> I WALK OUT WITH A DIFFERENT WALK.
PERRY, YOU KNOW, WE ALL CAME TOGETHER.
>> WE DID IT.
>> WE DID IT, THE COMMUNITY DID IT, MINNESOTA DID IT, THE COUNTRY DID IT, THE WORLD DID IT, AMERICA GOT IT RIGHT THIS TIME.
>> YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THAT NEITHER ONE OF YOU SAW A GLOBAL MEMORIAL BEING THE RESULT OF PERRY'S TRAGIC DEATH, AND I'M WONDERING, JUST WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE STUFF THAT THE MEMORIAL IS DOING.
FOR ONE THING, PRESERVING SOME OF THE AMAZING, IMPASSIONED ARTWORK THAT'S BEEN LEFT AT THE MEMORIAL.
>> YES, SINCE THE UPRISING, THE UPRISING.
FLOWERS AND PAINTINGS, MURALS, ARTWORK, DRAWINGS, TEDDY BEARS, RECORDS.
ALL TYPES OF THINGS THAT COME, AND WE PRESERVE THEM.
NOW WE PUT A LOT OF -- OVER 300 OF THE ITEMS IN A POP-UP GALLERY.
AND WE'RE HOPING TO BUILD UPON THAT AND HAVE A MUSEUM FOR THAT.
WE HAVE PEOPLE WITH SCULPTURES THEY WANT TO SEND US.
>> BEAUTIFUL.
>> WOW.
>> BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE SPACE FOR IT.
HAD CLOSE TO 3,000 OR 4,000 THINGS WE HAVE PRESERVED.
A CONSERVATION, PRESERVATION TEAM THAT'S HELPING, VOLUNTEERED TO HELP US.
AS MONEY COME AND WE GET MORE MONEY AND WE'RE ABLE TO GET A MUSEUM OUT THERE AT THE SQUARE, SO WE CAN PUT THIS BEAUTIFUL ARTWORK UP PRESERVING CONDOLENCES IN THERE.
EVERY ARTWORK HAS A VOICE AND A MESSAGE.
>> BEAUTIFUL.
>> OF COURSE, OF COURSE.
HAVE YOU GUYS BEEN ABLE TO, I GUESS, SECURE ENOUGH RESOURCES FROM THE CITY TO INVEST IN LOCAL COMMUNITIES AS WELL?
IS THAT ALSO PART OF THE GOAL OF THE GLOBAL MEMORIAL FUND?
>> SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE -- WORK WITH THE MAYOR, WITH THE CITY, TO HELP US MEET CERTAIN DEMANDS WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN.
QUITE A FEW HAVE BEEN MET, LIKE REST OF THE POLICE OFFICERS, CONVICTION, A LOT OF THINGS HAVE TAKEN PLACE OUT THERE.
BUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS SEE RESTORATIVE CARE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
>> UH-OH.
>> PROGRAMS TO HELP US.
INVEST BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY, HELP PEOPLE GET JOBS, GET PEOPLE A SENSE OF VALUE FOR THEMSELVES, TO GO ON TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
BECAUSE YOU KNOW, SYSTEMIC RACISM IS MUCH DEEPER THAN WHAT WE SAW HAPPEN WITH GEORGE FLOYD.
THERE'S SYSTEMS WE WANT TO HELP PUT IN PLACE.
TO RESTORE THAT COMMUNITY, AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD FOR THE CITY TO HELP US WITH THAT.
BECAUSE I BELIEVE THEY WANT THAT, TOO.
THEY WANT THAT, TOO.
>> MAHALIA, DO YOU SEE THAT ALSO AS PART OF THE GOAL?
I UNDERSTAND THERE'S ALSO IN ADDITION TO INVESTING IN THE COMMUNITY A RENEWED FOCUS ON LEGISLATION ABOUT POLICE MISCONDUCT.
ARE THOSE ALL THINGS THAT ARE DEFINITELY GOALS OF THE FOUNDATION?
>> OH, YES, MOST DEFINITELY.
BECAUSE WHAT HAS HAPPENED, IT WAS GLOBAL, AND YOU CAN'T DO NOTHING BUT WANT TO DO MORE.
HOPE TO DO MORE.
BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER.
>> UH-OH.
>> PUSH, PUSH, PUSH, KEEP VOICING BECAUSE WE NEED THESE THINGS.
COME TOGETHER.
>> AND PEOPLE COME FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD.
WONDER WHAT CAN I DO, WHAT CAN I DO, HOW CAN I HELP.
>> YEAH.
>> WE GET SO MANY VOLUNTEERS OUT THERE.
THEY VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME, SOMETIMES THEIR MONEY.
I MEAN THEY'RE JUST OUT THERE.
SOMETIMES BEING GATEKEEPERS, KEEP THEM FROM VANDALIZING.
PEOPLE COME IN AND MAKE SURE NOTHING IS BEING STOLEN.
WE DO THAT.
>> SO MUCH LOVE OUT THERE, YOU FEEL THE LOVE.
SO MUCH LOVE.
>> IT'S A COMMUNITY, THEY HELP EACH OTHER.
PEOPLE HUNGRY, NEED FOOD, SOMEONE GO OUT THERE AND BRING OUT A GRILL, AND COOK UP RIBS AND STUFF.
YOU KNOW.
HELP FEEDING THE COMMUNITY.
THERE'S BOOK SHELVES TO COME OUT AND READ, SOMEONE STARTED A BOOK DRIVE OUT THERE, A CLOTHING DRIVE OUT THERE.
THEY HAVE A FOOD DRIVE OUT THERE SOMETIMES.
THEY HAVE A CHURCH ACROSS THE STREET THAT VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME FOR US.
WE'RE HELPING EACH OTHER.
IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, A FIGHT HAPPENS, WE HAVE THE AGAPE MOVEMENT, STRONG BLACK MEN THAT HAVE BEEN THROUGH IT, THAT HAVE BEEN FORMER GANG MEMBERS, MEN THAT STEP UP AND ARE ABLE TO TALK AND COMMUNICATE TO THE GANG MEMBERS AND SAY HEY, THIS IS NOT THE WAY.
SO WHAT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE JUST TAKING CARE OF EACH OTHER AS A COMMUNITY.
THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.
AND THIS HAS HAPPENED BECAUSE OF THE UPRISING AND BECAUSE -- NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS AS I GREW UP.
>> UH-OH.
>> TRULY TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER.
>> WE'VE COME TO THE END OF OUR TIME, ABOUT A MINUTE LEFT.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO TRULY TAKING CARE OF EACH OTHER, WHAT I FIND SO AMAZING AND INSPIRING IS THAT -- BOTH YOU AND MAHALIA HAVE COMMUNICATED YOU DON'T HATE DEREK CHAUVIN AND THAT FORMER MINNEAPOLIS POLICE OFFICER DEREK CHAUVIN, AND THAT YOU BOTH SEE HATE AND SEEING PEOPLE AS LESS THAN HUMAN IS WHAT LED TO PERRY'S DEATH IN THE FIRST PLACE.
SO IF YOU COULD BOTH JUST QUICKLY TALK ABOUT HOW YOU'RE ABLE TO NOT HOLD ON TO THAT HATE.
SO MANY OF US WHEN WE SAW THAT, ESPECIALLY THOSE OF US WHO MAY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SEE OUR OWN FAMILY MEMBERS IN THAT POSITION, TO NOT HOLD ON TO THAT HATE SEEMS ALMOST INSPIRATIONAL, MAYBE EVEN SUPER HUMAN.
>> WE WERE RAISED NOT TO HATE PEOPLE.
COMES FROM OUR BACKGROUND.
HATE KEEPS YOU IN A DARK PLACE.
I DON'T HATE MR. CHAUVIN.
I DON'T HATE HIM.
I DON'T LIKE WHAT HE DID TO MY NEPHEW, BUT I DON'T HATE HIM.
I SEEN WHAT HATE HAS DONE.
WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE BLACK MEN THAT WERE KILLED, LIKE EMMETT TILL BECAUSE OF HATE, AND JESSE WASHINGTON, HATE CREATED -- SOME OF THESE PEOPLE, MOCKING THESE PEOPLE AND LEAD TO THINGS THAT SHOULDN'T LEAD TO.
IF YOU FOCUS ON HATE, IT BECOMES -- >> THERE'S NO ENDING.
>> THERE'S NO ENDING.
IT CAN BECOME A MOCKING.
WE'RE NOT HERE TO MOCK MR. CHAUVIN.
OR MOCK HIS FAMILY.
THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.
THIS IS ABOUT CHANGE FOR BETTER, FOR EQUALITY FOR BETTER FOR ALL.
SO YOU DON'T WANT TO GO TO THAT DARK PLACE BECAUSE IF YOU DO THAT, GO TO HATRED, THEN I'M NO BETTER THAN HE IS.
>> THAT IS A BEAUTIFUL NOTE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LEAVE IT ON.
LADIES, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU BOTH SO MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME FOR THIS INTERVIEW.
FOR THE AUDIENCE SPEAKING WITH ANGELA HARRELSON AND MAHALIA JONES, AUNTIES OF PERRY, KNOWN AS GEORGE FLOYD TO THE WORLD.
THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US, REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
>> THANK YOU.
>> GOD BLESS YOU.
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BERNARD AND DENISE SCHWARTZ, BARBARA HOPE ZUCKERBERG, THE AMBROSE MONELL FOUNDATION, AND

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