>> COMING UP NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON: SEVERAL BIG RETAILERS HAVE ANNOUNCED PRICES CUTS.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE IMPACT ON INFLATION.

RESEARCH SHOWS THAT PEOPLE BORN IN THE '50S AND '60S ARE HAVING MORE TROUBLE GETTING A GOOD NIGHT'S SLEEP.

AND HEAR ABOUT A FORMER PHOENIX DETECTIVE'S TRILOGY OF TRUE CRIME BOOKS.

THAT'S NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

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STEVE: GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.

I'M STEVE GOLDSTEIN IN FOR TED SIMONS.

FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP WILL BE IN PHOENIX FOR A CAMPAIGN STOP THURSDAY, ONE WEEK AFTER HIS CONVICTION ON 34 FELONY COUNTS IN HIS HUSH-MONEY TRIAL.

TRUMP WILL APPEAR AT THE DREAM CITY CHURCH IN PHOENIX FOR A TOWN HALL EVENT HOSTED BY TURNING POINT U.S.A., A PHOENIX-BASED CONSERVATIVE GROUP.

AT THE EVENT TRUMP WILL TAKE QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE.

THE FOCUS WILL BE ON IMMIGRATION AND THE ECONOMY.

PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN HAS CALLED FOR A QUICK CEASE-FIRE AND END TO THE FIGHTING BETWEEN ISRAEL AND HAMAS IN THE GAZA STRIP, SAYING THE MILITANT GROUP IS NO LONGER CAPABLE OF LAUNCHING AN ATTACK ON ISRAEL LIKE THE ONE ON OCTOBER SEVENTH.

ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER BENJAMIN NETANYAHU AND FAR-RIGHT MINISTERS DISAGREE, SAYING THAT DESTROYING HAMAS WILL REQUIRE CONTINUED ISRAELI MILITARY OPERATIONS IN THE STRIP.

DR. ANTHONY FAUCI, THE TOP U.S. INFECTIOUS DISEASE EXPERT UNTIL 2022, WAS BACK BEFORE CONGRESS TODAY, CALLING REPUBLICAN ALLEGATIONS THAT HE TRIED TO COVER UP COVID-19'S ORIGINS “SIMPLY PREPOSTEROUS.” THE REPUBLICAN- LED SUBCOMMITTEE HAS SPENT OVER A YEAR PROBING THE NATION’S RESPONSE TO THE PANDEMIC AND WHETHER U.S.-FUNDED RESEARCH IN CHINA MAY HAVE PLAYED ANY ROLE IN HOW IT STARTED.

DEMOCRATS SAID THE INVESTIGATION HAS FOUND NO EVIDENCE THAT FAUCI DID ANYTHING WRONG.

AND ARIZONA FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN ON THE NATIONAL FREE LUNCH PROGRAM AND WHO RECEIVE FOOD STAMP BENEFITS WILL GET 120 EXTRA THIS SUMMER TO HELP FEED THEIR KIDS.

THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC SECURITY AND THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION WILL BE DISTRIBUTING THE FEDERAL FUNDS TO QUALIFYING FAMILIES THROUGH A PROGRAM CALLED "SUN BUCKS."

THE MONEY WILL PROVIDE FOOD FOR 600,000 ARIZONA CHILDREN WHO OTHERWISE MAY NOT HAVE THE MEALS PROVIDED BY THE PROGRAM.

SEVERAL BIG RETAILERS HAVE ANNOUNCED THEY ARE CUTTING PRICES, INCLUDING TARGET WALGREENS AND AMAZON.

ALSO, GAS PRICES ARE DOWN.

WE TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND IT'S IMPACT ON INFLATION WITH ASU ECONOMIST DENNIS HOFFMAN.

DENNIS.

TEE, GREAT TO BE WITH YOU.

STEVE: COME ON, DENNIS, WHAT IS INFLATION INDENNIS: TOO MUCH MONEY CHASING TOO FEW GOODS.

THIS IS WHERE IT BEGAN.

IT WILL CONTINUE AS LONG AS THAT'S THE CIRCUMSTANCE.

STEVE: WHATS THE FED BEEN DOING TO COOL THE EXTREMES OF INFLATION?

>> DENNIS: ONE TOOL THE FED HAS.

THE INTEREST RATES.

THE INTEREST RATES HIT SEVERAL SECTORS VERY HARD.

SO THEY RAISE INTEREST RATES SO IT HILTS HOUSING HARD, MORTGAGE RATES IN THIS ENVIRONMENT WHEN SO MANY ARE LOCKED INTO LOW RATES BUT HIGH MORTGAGE RATES.

HIGH AUTOMOBILE LOAN RATES, AND WHY?

WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO IS COOL THE CHASE.

RIGHT?

TOO MUCH MONEY.

CHASING TOO FEW GOODS, SO THEY ARE TRYING TO SLOWDOWN DEMAND.

DEMAND DESTRUCTION AND HOPEFULLY BRING ABOUT AN EASING IN THE RATE OF INFLATION.

>> HOW MUCH MORE HE IS THE IMPACT OF INFLATION FELT BY THE SIMPLE FACT, IT SEEMS, THAT WE ARE CONSUMER-DRIVEN ECONOMY.

IT IS ONE OF THOSE THAT CONSUMERS, THEY ARE OUT BUYING THINGS AND SO CONSUMERS EVEN THE PERCEPTION, NO QUESTION INFLATION HAS BEEN ROUGH, BUT HAS PERCEPTION OF IT MADE IT SEEM WORSE BECAUSE CONSUMERS ARE SEEING CERTAIN GOODS LIKE GAS, LIKE FROSHRIES, GOING UP AND SAYING, WAIT A SECOND, THIS MEANS THE ECONOMY IS NOT DOING WELL?

>> HE IS PAINFUL, STEVE.

BUT PART OF THE PAIN IS THE UNEVENNESS.

OF THE IM FACT.

IF YOU OWN YOUR OWN HOME, OR IF YOU HAVE A FIXED MORTGAGE RATE AT 3 OR 3.5%.

A BIG PIECE OF THIS IS SHELTER.

YOU ARE SHELTERED FROM THE THINGTIVE IMPACTS OF INFLATION.

IF YOU ARE A RENTER, A COMMUTER, YOU KNOW, GETTING IF BY PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK, THEN GOING TO THE GROCERY STORE AND SEEING HIGH PRICES.

IT IS VERY PAINFUL.

SO IT IS UNEVEN IMPACT THAT IS REALLY DIFFICULT FOR SOME.

>> WHY DID INFLATION HILT PHOENIX HARDER THAN MANY OTHER COMMUNITIES?

WELL, A COUPLE OF REASONS, FIRST MUCH ALL.

WE WERE MORE OPEN THAN OTHER, WE DIDN'T SHUT DOWN AS MUCH AS OTHER, OTHER PLACES DID AND THAT SHUTDOWN, YOU OH, CURTAIL DEMAND AND YOU HAD LESS DEMAND.

BUT SO, OUR DEMAND KEPT PACE, AND PEOPLE DECIDED BOTH LOCALLY HERE AND FROM AFAR THAT FEE NEXT IS A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE.

AND WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, SO THAT, SHELTER COMPONENT THAT RENTAL COMPONENT, THE HOUSE PRICE COMPONENT WENT BANG.

THAT REALLY FUELED A LOT OF IN NATION, OR A BIG COMMUTER TOWN, PEOPLE TRIED TO BUY CARS.

YOU KNOW?

USED CAR PRICES WERE UP.

GASOLINE WAS UP.

PHOENIX WAS THE EPICENTER FOR AWHILE.

GOOD NEWS IS HERE.

WE ARE IN THE TWOS.

>> OK. >> IT IS GOING TO GET BETTER.

STEVE: I WILL GET TO THIS A MOIN MOMENT.

SPECIFICALLY WITH GAS PRICES.

HOW MUCH DO WE GET GAS HERE, SUMMER BLEND, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE OUR OWN PIPELINE.

HOW MUCH DOES THAT AFFECT GAS PRICES HERE CALIFORNIA NEEDS A PLANE BLEND.

WHY CAN'T WE USE THE CALIFORNIA BLEND RIGHT, THIEF?

IT IS TOUGH WHEN YOU HAVE A SCARCE UNIQUE BLEND.

GAS PRICES ARE DOWN A BUCK A GALLON.

THIS IS EVIDENCE WHAT WHAT HAPPENS.

STEVE: LET'S COME BACKING TO THE WALMART TARGET PRICES.

>> I GOT COSTCO THERE.

90.

I HAVEN'T PAID LESS THAN $200 FOR CHLORINE IN YEARS.

>> ALL RIGHT.

WHEN IT COMES DOWN TON THE BIG RETAILERS, AT WHAT POINT, I GUESS YOUR FEELING WITH CHLORINE, AT WHAT POINT DO CONSUMERS START TO FEEL THE DOWN TREND IN PRICES?

>> WELL, IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

YOU KNOW, NOT HAVING THE STUCKER SHOCK ALL THE TIME WHEN YOU GO TO THE STORE WILL BE PART OF IT.

BUT, STEVE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ASKED ME.

HOW, HOW IS YOUR PRICES GONE UP SINCE 2019.

ON THE ORDER OF 30%.

OH, THAT IS TERRIBLE.

PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD 30%.

WAGES ARE UP ON THE ORDER OF 25%.

AND REMEMBER THIS UNEVENNESS.

I SUSPECT THAT THERE IS A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE AHEAD TODAY PAUSE THE WAGES HAVE GONE UP FASTER THAN THEIR PRICES.

OTHERS ARE BEHIND, OF COURSE.

STEVE: DIDN'T SAY 2021.

WAS THIS ISSUE BEFORE JOE BIDEN CAME TO OFFICES?

DENNIS: EN FLATION WAS KICKING UP IN 17, 16 AND 19.

I AM QUOTING PHOENIX NUMBER HERE.

INFLATION RATE 19 WAS HIGHER THAN IT IS RIGHT NOW.

I AM TALKING IN 24.

ON THE ORDER OF 4% IN 201 HERE.

JUST LOOKING AT PHOENIX CPI.

STEVE: WE HAVE TIME TO FLUSH THIS OUT.

WHAT ARE YOU ANTICIPATING GOING FORWARD THE END OF THIS YEAR AND GOING INTO 2025?

DENNIS INNOCENT.

PRICES ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO MODERATE.

MOST OF THE CONCERNS NOW WHEN YOU HEAR CONCERNS ON WALL STREET OR YOU HEAR THE FED TALKING, CONCERNING ABOUT, THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ECONOMY SLOWING, PERHAPS, SLOWING A LITTLE BIT TOO FAST, SO EXPECT INTEREST RATES WILL EASE A LITTLE BIT.

INFLATION WILL COME DOWN.

AND THEN WHEN WE COMPARE NEXT BRING, WHEN WE COMPARE THE LITTLE BUMP THAT WE HADED THIS SPRING WITH NEXT SPRING'S LOWER PRICES, I THINK INFLATION IS GOING TO, YOU KNOW, BE AT OR BELOW THE FED'S TARGET HERE IN PHOENIX IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY NEXT SPRING.

STEVE.

HOW MUCH INFLATION FACTOR INTO YOU WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE HEALTH AND THE ECONOMY AS OPPOSED TO UNEMPLOYMENT LEVEL, STOCK MARKET, THAT SORT OF THING?

>> RIGHT.

INFLATION IS IMPORTANT.

IT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IS UNEVEN.

IT REALLY HURTS SOME PEOPLE REALLY, REALLY TOUGH.

BUT YOU KNOW, UNEMPLOYMENT IS IMPORTANT.

STOCK K TY IS IMPORTANT.

IT IS A WHOLE ARRAY OF THINGS IN.

WE HAD TOO LITTLE IN FLAKES I WOULD ARGUE IN 2019, 2019, 2015.

PEOPLE TALKED ABOUT STACK FACT ECONOMIES.

THE FED TRIED TO STIM LATE INFLATION AT 2% THEN COVID CAME ALONG, IT WAS LIKE JET FUEL ON A FIRE.

>> SO MUCH TO TALK.

THANKS FOR PECK HERE.

>> STEVE, THANK YOU.

♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ RESEARCH BY ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY PROPROFESSOR PROFESSOR SHOWS THAT PEOPLE BORN IN THOSE DECADES HAVE TEN PERCENT HIGHER INSOMINIA SYMPTOMS THAN THOSE OLDER THAN THEM.

HERE TO TALK ABOUT HIS RESEARCH IS DR CONNOR SHEEHAN, AN ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR IN THE T. DENNY SANFORD SCHOOL OF SOCIAL AND FAMILY DYNAMICS.

I BARELY ESCAPED THIS.

TELL ME WHY PEOPLE BORN IN THE ''S AND '6'S WAS INTRIGUING TO YOU AND YOUR PARTNERS?

AUTOS I WELL, I HAVE BEEN INTERESTED IN HOW DIFFERENT GENERATIONS ACT DIFFERENTLY, BEHAVE DIFFERENTLY, SO WITH MY COAUTHOR WHO STUDIES MID LIFE HEALTH, WE WANTED TO SEE ARE THEY SLEEPING DIFFERENTLY.

ARE WE SEEING DECADE-BASED DIFFERENCE IN SLEEPING PATTERNS.

STEVE: DID YOU MEASURE BASED ON ETHIC BACKGROUND, GENDER, THESE SORT OF THINGS?

>> WE HAVE DONE THAT IN THE PAST.

WE FOUND THAT MEN, MEN BORN IN THE '60'S THEY ARE WORST COMPARED TO PREVIOUS FENRATIONS.

STEVE: YOU WERE ABLE TO LOOK AT FACTORS OR MAKE ED CALL ITED GUESS ON THAT INTO WE THINK THERE ARE THREE MAIN REASONS THAT ARE DRIVING THIS.

THE FIRST IS THAT THIS COHORT WAS DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTED BY THE GREAT RECESSION.

SUDDENLY OUR RESEARCH HAS SHOWN THIS.

OTHERS HAVE SHOWN THAT PACIFIC STRESSORS RELATED TO THE GREAT RECESSION NEGATIVELY INFLUENCED PEOPLE BORN IN THAT COHORT PACIFICALLY THOSE IN THE 196'S, THE SECOND REASON WHY WE THINK IS THAT PEOPLE BORN IN THE 19 60'S ARE INCREASINGLY INVOLVED IN CAREGIVING, THEY ARE NOT ONLY TAKING CARE OF THEIR OLDER ADULT PARENTS, BUT INCREASINGLY WHAT IS UNIQUE TO THIS COHORT IS THAT E ARE TAKING CARE OF THEIR CHILDREN AND HELPING THEM GET LAUNCHED INTO ADULTHOOD.

TAKING CARE OF THE OLDER ADULT PARENT ORCHID THAT TAKES TIME, THAT TACKS MONEY, IT IS STRESS, IT GETS IN HE WAY OF SLEEP.

>> THE GENERATION THING.

>> OK.

THE SANDWICH GENERATION INFLUENCING THE SLIP.

THEN THE THIRD REASON IS SMART PHONES IN.

SO GENERATION, OR THE GENERATION ABOUT 90% OF THEM HAD A SMARTPHONE IN 2019 ABOUT 70% OF BABY BOOMERS IN 2019 BUT 90% OF DEN RAKES X HADED A SMART PHONE.

SMART PHONES ARE INCREDIBLY ADDICTIVE, TECHNOLOGIES THAT YOU CAN SCROLL ALL NIGHT, HOLD A PHONE UP TO YOUR FACE AND YOU BRING WORK TO BED TO YOU.

FOR ALL OF THESE REASONS, THOSE THREE MAIN REASONS WE THINK THEY ARE SLEEPING WORSE.

>> I THIS THINK IS PROBABLY MORE CONVERSATION GENERALLY ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT SLEEP IS FOR OVERALL HEALTH.

DO YOU THINKS THAT THE CASE?

ARE WE MORE END LIGHTENED IN ON THAT THINKING ABOUT, OK. LET ME TRY TO RELAX BEFORE I GO TO SLEEP.

MAYBE NOT USE THE PHONE AS MUCH.

THAT SORT OF THING.

>> WELL, THINK PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF HOW IMPORTANT SLEEP IS FOR THEIR WELL-BEING.

BUT ALSO, I MEAN, WE HAVE THE MOST ADDICTIVE ALGORITHMS IN HUMAN HISTORY AT LITERALLY IN THE PALM OF OUR HAND AND WE CAN WATCH FACEBOOK, TIKTOK, STAIN PROGRAM, SO THAT WILL KEEP US UP.

THINK THAT KIND OF OUTWAYS WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT SLEEP THEN THE OTHER THING FIS ARE WORRIED ABOUT SLEEP, RITE IS HARDER TO SLEEP.

>> WELL, OBVIOUSLY, I WOULD ASK YOU IF THERE IS A MEASUREMENT OF WHETHER ONE GETS CONSISTENT CONTINUOUS SLEEP.

ONE WOULD WERE TO GET SEVEN HOURS BUT IT ITS STRAIGHT THROUGH.

IT IS BETTER THAN BEING IN BED FOR EIGHT AND A HALF.

YOU ARE STILL ON THE PHONE.

IT IS NOT RESTLESS WHEN YOU START AND PEOPLE GET OLDER AND HAVE TO GO TO THE PATH ROOM.

ARE THOSE FACTORS LIKE AGAIN, HOW IMPORTANT IS IT CONTINUOUS SLEEP AS OPPOSED TO OTHER ASPECTS IN.

SO I HAVE NOT LOOKED INTO THIS, BUT, BUT I THINK, WHATEVER IS WORKING FOR YOU IS BEST.

LIKE, YOU KNOW, SLEEP AS MUCH AS YOU CAN.

IF YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE PATH ROOM.

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO TO?

>> ALL RIGHT.

WHAT ADVICE IF SOMEONE WERE TO COME TO YOU AND SAY I AM ADDICTED TO THE PHONE BUT I WANT TO SLEEP MORE?

ANY OBVIOUS ADVICE AUTOS WELCOME TO THE CLUB.

I AM ADDICTED TO MINE.

IT KEEPS HE M UP AT MIGHT.

THE ADVICE THAT HAS BEEN SO HARD FOR ME TO TAKE IS NOT LEAP WITH THE PHONE IN YOUR BETTED ROOM.

YOU CAN SLEEP WITH IT IN ANOTHER ROOM.

YOU HAVE IT, YOU ARE GOING TO GET THE MOTE IF IATION, YOU ARE YOU GOING TO READ E-MAILS THAT ARE STRESSFUL.

YOU WILL FALL ASLEEP WATCHING SOCIAL MEDIA, SO IF YOU CAN, YOU CAN PUT IN ANOTHER ROOM.

KNOW PEOPLE WILL SAY I USE MY PHONE AS ALARM CLOCK.

YOU CAN BUY AS ALARM CLOCK.

>> WHAT IF SOMEONE IS MORE STRESSED.

WAIT A SECOND IF I GET AN EMERGENCY CALL IN THE NIGHT THE PHONE IS THE ANOTHER ROOM.

WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO.

HAVE IT ON LOUD.

MAKE SURE YOU CAN FELT THE ENGINE NOTIFICATIONS BUT YOU DON'T WANT THE E-MAILS OR TO FALL ASLEEP WATCHING TIKTOK.

>> AS WE CLOSE YOU WERE NOT BORN IN THE ''S OR '6'S DO YOU FOON THE SAME THING.

DO YOU FIND THAT YOU SLEEP PRETTY WELL OR THE STREETSORS GETTING TO YOU SOMETIMES, TOO?

>> WELL, APPRECIATE YOU ASKING.

THINK ABOUT SLEEP ALL THE TIME WHICH MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO SLEEP BUT PI AM WORRIED ABOUT YOUNGER PEOPLE SLEEPING PATTERNS PARTICULARLY PEOPLE IN THE COLLEGE GENERATION, 16-20 THEY ARE INCREASINGLY WORKING IN THE ECONOMY.

THEY ARE ON THE PHONES MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE.

THEY ARE DRINKING ENERGY DRINKS.

THEY ARE VERY STRESSED.

SO I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR SLEEPING PATTERNS.

OK. CONNOR, THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME, STEVE.

♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ STEVE: DARREN BURCH MAY BE A FAMILIAR NAME.

THE RETIRED PHOENIX POLICE SERGEANT SPENT YEARS TALKING ABOUT SILENT WITNESS CASES ON T.V.

AND RADIO IN HOPES OF CATCHING CROOKS.

HE'S TURNED ALL THAT KNOWLEDGE INTO A TRILOGY OF TRUE CRIME BOOKS CALLED "TWISTED BUT TRUE, BOOKS ONE TWO AND THREE.

THE TRUE STORIES COME FROM HIS DAYS AS A PATROL OFFICER, SEX CRIMES DETECTIVE AND HOMICIDE DETECTIVE.

HERE NOW TO TALK ABOUT HIS BOOKS IS DARREN BURCH.

WELCOME.

THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME, STEVE.

STEVE: I HAD A CHANCE TO READ A FEW OF THEM.

THESE ARE SOME PRETTY INTERESTING STORIES.

HOW MANY WERE TAKEN FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE AS AN OFFICER INSOME OF THE EXPERIENCE OF THE COLLEAGUES HAVE INTO YEAH.

100%.

WHEN I WAS AT THE END OF MY TEN YEAR AS A COP FOR 30 YEARS.

I WITH AS SERGEANT LIKE YOU SAID.

I WAS DOING A RADIO SHOW AND WE WOULD TALK ABOUT THE CRIMES OF THE WEEK AND SO FORTH.

BUT THEY WANTED KNOW GO TO STORIES AFTERWARDS WHICH IS A WIN-WIN FOR THEM.

DIDN'T TRUST INTERNET SO I WENT TO TELL MY OWN STUPID SUSPECT TORRES.

THERE WAS MORE DUMB DOWN DILEMMAS SO I THATTED A BLACK CLOUD THAT FOLLOWED ME.

THERE WAS A LOT OF FUNNY STORIES.

I KIND OF BULLET POINTED ONE DAY TY AM COMING OUT OF THE RADIO STATION AND A GUY SAY, OH, YOU ARE SERGEANT, I LOVE YOUR TALE.

BLAH BLAH BLAH.

YOU SHOULD WRITE A BOOK.

AFTER I MADE A JOKE, YOU KNOW?

THERE IS NOT ENOUGH CRAYONS IN THE WORLD FOR KNOW WRITE A BOOK.

I THOUGHT ABOUT IT.

I LIKED THE IDEA OF WHEN I RETIRE GIVING BACK TO A SILENT WITNESS SO I USE THE POINTS AS PLACE FORM FOR THE STORIES SO EACH BOOK HAS STORIES.

THE FIRST BOOK WAS PREDOMINANTLY THE PATROL YEARS FOR THE PERIOD THEN THE SECOND PACK WAS DETECTIVE YEARS THEN THE LAST TEN YEARS IF YOU WILL THE SERGEANT.

IT IS SPECTRUM.

A LOT OF STUPID CRIMINALS OUT THERE.

WE ALL WORRIES ABOUT THE MASTER CRIMINALS WHO WILL DO THINGS.

HAVE YOU FOUND THEY ARE THE MOST COMPELLING TO THE READERS, THE WITHINS TO SOME EXTENT THEY ARE BUT YOU CAN MAKE THEM LAUGH A LITTLE BIT.

>> EXACTLY RIGHT.

STUPID SUSPECTS HELP COPS DO THEIR JOB.

WE CATCH THEM SO MUCH EATS WHERE I.

THEY STAND OUTP THEY ARE FUNNY.

THINK WITH THE HUMANIZE IT AND HAVE FUN OURSELF AND EVEN THE SUSPECTS AT TIMES.

LOGICAL ME ASK A QUESTION BASED ON THE EXPERIENCE THAT YOU HAD?

I KNOW I SAY IT WAS THE MOST AWARDING BUT FEELS LIKE SILENT WITNESS WAS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE INCREDIBLE BECAUSE IT WAS CONNECTING TO MAYBE FOLKS WHO WERE NOT QUITE OFTEN THINKING ABOUT LAW ENFORCEMENT BUT SAY, HERE IS YOUR CHANCE TO HELP THE COMMUNITY.

YEAH.

IT IS PERFECT BASED POLICING PROGRAM.

WE THINK ABOUT IT.

IT IS REALLY THE COMMUNITY HELPING SOLVE CRIMES THEN THE MONEY WHICH IS NONPROFIT PROVIDES THAT REWARD MECHANISM AND GOES OUT.

SO ONE OF THOUGH PROGRAMS THEN HELPS KEEP COLD CASES ALIVE.

SOMETIMES COLD CASES REALLY BECOME AND WE START LOSING POLICE OFFICERS IN TERMS THE ECONOMY.

SILENT WITNESS NEED MORE THAN EVER.

>> YEAH.

HOW IMPORTANT IS THE COMMUNITY CONNECTION FOR OFFICERS TO DO THEIR JOBS WELL INWE THERE ARE CERTAIN COMMUNITIES THAT ARE NOT AS TRUSTING AS THEY CAN BUT BECAUSE OF BACK GROUND THEY HAD.

OTHERS OBVIOUSLY THINK, BOY, THE FIRST THING I WANT TO DO IS CALL THE POLICE BECAUSE THEY WILL DOLL THE JOB.

HOW IMPORTANT IS IT TO FINDS THAT BALANCE IN ANDY VERSE COMMUNITY AS OUR MOOSE GREAT QUESTION.

THE COMMUNITY-BASED POLICING IS THE KEY TO SUCCESSFUL POLICING.

AND OUR PARTNER HAS TO BE THE COMMUNITY.

CAN'T BE US AGAIN THEM.

-11 DID A LOT OF PAD THINGS OXLEY.

POLICE BECAME A LITTLE BIT TACTICAL AND MORE OF US AGAIN THEM.

NOT THAT IT WAS ANY ONE'S FAULT.

WE REBACK TO A GOOD PLATES P. A PAR DIME SHIFT LIKE WE HAD IN THE'S 80'S SO FOOD THINGS GOING AHEAD.

>> WE BLT A MINUTE LEFT.

>> WHAT IS NEXT?

I MEAN TRILOGY OF BOOKS BUT I AM SUSPECTING YOU MADE OTHER STORIES YOU HAVE NOT TOLD YET.

IT IS FUNNY.

BECAUSE PI AM SO FLAD YOU ASKED THAT.

WE ARE NOW MAKING A FILM FEATURE FILM WHERE THE MAJOR STUDIO.

I CAN'T TALK BUILT.

I WILL IN THE FUTURE AND I HAVE BEEN DOING TV I.D.

CHANNEL AMERICAN DETECTIVES, SNAPS, SO IT HAS BEEN A FANCY DISCOVERED IN MY RETIREMENT YEARS IN.

WELL, YOU HAVE DONE PODCASTING.

YOU ARE A FAN OF PODCASTS?

>> I HAVE.

I MET DAVE PRATT.

IT IS MORE INSPIRATIONAL MAN ON THE PLANET AND DID A PODCAST FOR FIVE YEARS AND BECAME A TV SHOW.

THAT PROMPTED THE HOLLYWOOD LOOK AT MY PACK, YEAH, IT IS A BLESSING.

FOOD LUCK.

THANKS.

>> THANKS.

THAT IS IT FOR NOW ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

AM STEVE GOLDSTEIN IN FOR TED SIMONS.

ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR EVENING.

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