TIME FOR A 2-STATE SOLUTION IN THE MIDEAST NON-COMPETE CLAUSES KEEP WAGES LOW •SO SHOULD NEW YORK BAN THEM?

AND GOOD WORK IF YOU CAN'T KEEP IT-- A COACH GETS $77 MILLION DOLLARS TO LEAVE.

STAY TUNED, IVORY TOWER IS NEXT.

GOOD EVENING.

WELCOME TO IVORY TOWER.

I'M DAVID CHANATRY, FROM UTICA UNIVERSITY.

I'M JOINED AROUND THE TABLE TONIGHT BY TY SEIDULE FROM HAMILTON COLLEGE, TARA ROSS FROM ONONDAGA COMMUNITY COLLEGE BEN BAUGHMAN FROM GANNON UNIVERSITY AND RICK FENNER FROM UTICA UNIVERSITY.

ISRAEL MAY BE SUCCEEDING IN ITS BATTLE TO REMOVE HAMAS FROM GAZA, BUT AT TREMENDOUS COST TO ITS REPUTATION AND TO PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS.

BENJAMIN NETANYAHU SAID THIS WEEK ISRAEL WILL CONTROL GAZA INDEFINITELY.

WHAT IS THE END-GAME FOR ISRAEL, AND THE UNITED STATES IS IT TIME NOW FOR THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION TO AGGRESSIVELY PUSH FOR A PALESTINIAN STATE?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

THIS CAN ONLY HAPPEN WITH THE UNITED STATES LEADING.

I DON'T THINK IT WILL HAPPEN WITH BENJAMIN NETANYAHU IN POWER BUT A TWO-STATE SOLUTION MEANS THAT HAMAS IS DEFEATED.

IT MEANS THE PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY CONTROLS BOTH THE WEST BANK AND GAZA.

ISRAEL HAS TO STOP BUILDING ON THE WEST BANK AND THE PALESTINIANS HAVE TO ACCEPT THEY HAVE NO RETURN.

THERE IS NO RIGHT OF RETURN.

AND IF IN FACT, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THAT'S THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION PLAN.

THAT WAS THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION'S PLAN WHICH BENJAMIN NETANYAHU AGREED TO.

SO THERE IS A BASIS FOR BEGINNING.

BUT THEY'VE ALREADY GOTTEN VERY CLOSE TO THAT AND NO ONE SIGNED OFF ON IT 20 YEARS AGO WHEN THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION TRIED IT.

SO I DON'T SEE IT HAPPENING QUICKLY BUT THE U.S. HAS TO LEAD.

>> THE RIGHT TO RETURN HAS ALWAYS BEEN A NON-STARTER, HASN'T IT, FOR THE PALESTINIANS?

>> IT HAS BEEN A NON-STARTER BUT THE ONLY WAY-- THAT WAS REALLY THE THE REASON WHY IN 1990 IT DIDN'T GET DONE THE FIRST TIME BUT YOU HAVE GOT TO HAVE THAT.

THERE IS NO WAY THAT ISRAEL CAN ACCEPT THE RIGHT OF RETURN.

>> NOW, IF WE DON'T GET THAT, IF THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN, WHERE DOES IT GO FROM HERE, RICK?

>> WELL, I AGREE WITH TY, I DON'T SEE HOW YOU CAN HAVE ANY KIND OF LASTING PEACE WITH A PERMANENT MILITARY PRESENCE IN TERMS OF REALLY CONTROLLING THE PALESTINIANS THERE.

I THINK YOU NEED TO HAVE A SITUATION IN WHICH YOU HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE TO HAMAS AND I THINK ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS THE PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY WILLING TO BE AN ALTERNATIVE AS OPPOSED TO A COMPLEMENT?

WHILE THEY CERTAINLY ARE NOT HAMAS, YOU KNOW, THEY STILL TEACH HATRED OF JEWS AND ARE PAYING MONEY TO PEOPLE WHO GO AND DO HARM.

SO THEY NEED TO MAKE SOME COMPROMISES IN ORDER TO, FOR ISRAEL, I THINK, TO BE COMFORTABLE WITH THEM, CONTROLLING AND GOVERNING IN THAT AREA.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO EXPECT THAT THERE WILL BE ANY LONG-TERM PEACE THERE.

>> YOU KNOW, I WISH I COULD DISAGREE BUT I ABSOLUTELY AGREE, UNLESS THERE IS A TWO-STATE SOLUTION, THERE WON'T BE ANY PEACE CERTAINLY IN GAZA ITSELF.

AND REALLY NOT EVEN WITHIN THE REGION AND WHAT IS SO SAD ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED HERE IS THAT DID YOU HAVE VARIOUS LEADERS IN THE AREA WHO HAVE OPPOSED ISRAEL BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T AGREED TO A TWO-STATE SOLUTION.

THEY BASICALLY HAVE BEGUN TO RECH A POINT WHERE THEY SAID, OKAY, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW WHAT WOULD BE THE OPTIMAL SOLUTION, WHICH IS THE TWO-STATE SOLUTION.

BUT WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT ISRAEL IS NOT GOING AWAY.

THE BEST WE CAN GET TO IS A DECENT STATUS QUO.

AND, YOU KNOW, WITH PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY AND A CERTAIN LEVEL OF IN CHARGE OF GAZA AND WE ARE GOING TO-- THEY HAVE OPENED UP RELATIONS IN SOME CASES OR AT LEAST WERE INGOING THE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT OPENING RELATIONS.

AND SO REALLY THIS HAS BEEN A MAJOR SETBACK WITHIN THAT ENTIRE REGION IN TERMS OF THE VARIOUS ARAB COUNTRIES INTERACTING WITH ISRAEL, ET CETERA.

AND SO I DON'T SEE ANY SOLUTION UNLESS THERE IS A TWO-STATE SOLUTION BUT ALSO I DON'T SEE ANY SOLUTION UNLESS YOU CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET BENJAMIN NETANYAHU OUT OF ISRAEL IN TERMS OF BEING IN CHARGE.

>> THE ISRAELI PEOPLE MAY TAKE CARE OF THAT IN THE NEXT TIME THEY HAVE AN ELECTION BECAUSE I THINK HE IS QUITE UNPOPULAR NOW AFTER OCTOBER 7.

THE SETTLEMENTS IN THE WEST BANK HAVE BEEN-- THEY GO BACK TO THE TIME OF BEGIN SINCE THE EARLY 70s.

HAS THE GAIN JUST LEFT THE STATION ON THIS, BEN?

>> A LONG TIME AGO-- THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON TO SAY DECADES WOULD BE AN UNDERSTATEMENT.

THE CONFLICT IN THAT REGION HAS BEEN NOTED ANYTHING NOT ANYTHING NEW.

THE IDEOLOGY OF HAMAS, OBVIOUSLY, IS THE CONCERN, WHERE THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A TWO-STATE SOLUTION.

IT IS A NON-STARTER.

IT'S NOT EVEN A PROPOSITION.

SO THAT'S A PROBLEM.

RIGHT NOW THOUGH IT IS STILL CRISIS THERE AND WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS WE NEED TO GET THROUGH THE EMOTIONS TO GET TO THE STORY AND COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS THAT WOULD WORK.

THE PROBLEM WITH THAT THOUGH IS EVERYTHING THAT HAS COME OUT TO PUBLIC IS THAT HAMAS IS NOT IN A POSITION THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO NEGOTIATE ANYTHING BEYOND WHAT THEY WANT.

>> SO IT APPEARS THAT ISRAEL DOESN'T REALLY HAVE A PLAN FOR WHAT COMES NEXT, WHICH, TY, REMINDS ME OF AFGHANISTAN OR IRAQ.

>> EXCEPT THE DIFFERENCE IS IS THAT ISRAEL IS RIGHT FLEX TO THAT.

AND HAVING BEEN TO ISRAEL, IT'S SO SMALL, THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE THE LIBERTY OF JUST LEAVING.

BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, IT CANNOT GOVERN FIVE MILLION PALESTINIANS AGAINST THEIR WILL INDEFINITELY OR ELSE IT BECOMES AN APARTHEID STATE, SO IT HAS NO CHOICE, EITHER-- IF IT TAKES CONTROL OF THESE FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME AND THEY HAVE NO SAY IN THEIR LIFE, IT ISN'T GOING TO WORK.

THAT'S THE GREAT THING ABOUT THE PALESTINIAN ISRAELIS, THEY HAVE MORE RIGHTS THAN ANYBODY ELSE IN THE MIDDLE EAST BUT THAT WON'T BE THE CASE FOR THOSE ON THE WEST BANK AND GAZA.

IT'S NOT A SUSTAINABLE SOLUTION.

>> I'M GLAD YOU MADE THAT POINT ABOUT THE PALESTINIAN-ISRAELIS, THE ARABS LIVING WITHIN ISRAEL BECAUSE YOU HEAR THAT TERM, APARTHEID STATE, BEING TOSSED AROUND A LOT AND IT HAS BEEN MENTIONED ON THIS PROGRAM.

AND IT ALWAYS STRUCK ME AS BEING A BIT OVER THE TOP FOR WHAT WE HAVE THERE.

>> IN ISRAEL, BUT IF YOU TAKE THE PALESTINIANS IN THE WEST BANK AND GAZA AND PUT THEM UNDER ISRAELI CONTROL, THEN YOU DO HAVE THAT.

BUT NOT FOR THOSE THAT ARE IN ISRAEL ITSELF.

IN FACT, THEY HAVE MORE RIGHTS THAN ANY OTHER ARABS IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

>> AND THE CURRENT ISRAELI GOVERNMENT IS THE MOST RIGHT WING IN ITS ROCHESTER HISTORY AND THEY HAVE BEEN PUSHING AND BUILDING SETTLEMENTS AND THEY'RE NOT PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN THE SOLUTION WE HAVE COME UP WITH HERE.

>> THAT'S ONE OF THE POINTS THAT I WAS GOING TO MAKE.

YOU SAID THAT ISRAEL DOESN'T HAVE A PLAN.

ISRAEL HAS A PLAN.

IT'S JUST NOT A GOOD PLAN BECAUSE ISRAEL'S PLAN IS WE ARE GOING TO OCCUPY GAZA AN WE ARE GOING TO PUSH OUT AS MANY OF THE PALESTINIANS LIVING THERE AS WE CAN AND HOPE THEY UNDERSTAND, WE REALLY DON'T PLAN ON THEM COMING BACK, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT SAYING THAT BUT IT'S VERY CLEAR.

THEY DON'T PLAN ON THEM COMING BACK, SO THAT THE NUMBER OF PALESTINIANS THAT ISRAEL IS IN CHARGE OF, IF IT TAKES COMPLETE CONTROL OF OVER GAZA IS MUCH, MUCH SMALLER.

>> WE MISSED ONE THING.

NOT ONLY IS NEW LEADERSHIP ON ISRAEL'S SIDE BUT PALESTINE AS WELL IS WHAT IS NECESSARY.

>> THE BOSS IS IN HIS LATE 80s, HE IS CORRUPT.

THIS IS A TERRIBLE SITUATION.

BUT THE ONLY WAY IT'S GOING TO GET BETTER IS WITH U.S.

LEADERSHIP.

>> WE'LL LEAVE THAT THERE FOR THE TIME BEING THE NEW YORK STATE LEGISLATURE HAS PASSED A BILL BANNING NON-COMPETE CLAUSES IN EMPLOYMENT CONTRACTS.

THESE AGREEMENTS HAVE BECOME QUITE COMMON, IN ALL SORTS OF INDUSTRIES, AND NOW BANS ARE BECOMING COMMON, TOO.

THE TWIST HERE, IS NEW YORK IS THE CENTER OF FINANCIAL AND MEDIA INDUSTRIES WHICH SAY THEY CAN'T ALLOW SPECIALIZED KNOWLEDGE TO GO TO THE COMPETITION.

SUPPORTERS OF BANS SAY NON-COMPETES SUPPRESS WAGES.

SHOULD GOVERNOR HOCHUL SIGN THE BILL?

AND BAN NON-COMPETE CLAUSES?

>> ACTUALLY, I THINK SHE SHOULD BECAUSE THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS IN THE BILL.

THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS FOR FIXED PERIOD OF SERVICE CONTRACTS, THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS PROHIBITING DISCLOSURE OF TRADE SECRETS, WHICH IS OFTEN WHAT IS MENTIONED IN NEW YORK STATE ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, THE TYPES OF INDUSTRIES AND BUSINESSES WE HAVE HERE.

THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS FOR CONFIDENTIAL OR PROPRIETARY INFORMATION, SOLICITING CLIENTS.

SO I THINK SHE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND SIGN THE NON-COMPETE LEGISLATION.

BUT AND SHE SHOULD BECAUSE IT'S NECESSARY, TOO.

YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE WORKERS AT FAST FOOD PLACES BEING TOLD THAT THEY CAN'T COMPETE, THEY CAN'T GO TO ANOTHER FAST FOOD PLACE.

YOU KNOW, IT BOGGLES MY MIND TO IMAGINE, OKAY, WHAT ARE THEY LEARNING IN THAT SORT OF, YOU KNOW, ASSEMBLY LINE FLIP THE BURGER THAT IS GOING TO BE SO DANGEROUS THAT THEY MIGHT GO FROM McDONALD'S TO BURGER KING.

>> BURGER KING IS FLAME BOILED.

WHAT IS THE SPECIAL SECRETS.

BUT AND IT IS IN THE LEGISLATION.

THERE IS A RECOGNITION THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT BANKERS, WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT CERTAIN SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH THAT'S BEING USED TO ENHANCE A BUSINESS, THEN THERE NEEDS TO BE AN EXCEPTION AND THAT'S THERE.

>> RICK, ONE OF THE COMMENTS ABOUT THESE CLAUSES IS THAT THEY SUPPRESS ENTREPRENEURSHIP.

IS THAT... FROM AN ECONOMIC POINT OF VIEW, ARE THESE... >> IT CAN.

WELL, HERE'S THE ISSUE WHY IN SOME STATES HAVE EXCLUDED BUSINESS TRANSACTIONS FROM THIS.

SAY I'VE RUN A PIZZERIA IN CLINTON NEW YORK FOR THE LAST 20 OR 30 YEARS AND IT'S THE MOST POPULAR PIZZERIA OUT THERE AND I WANT TO WIND DOWN AND GO SOUTH FLORIDA AND TY DECIDES THAT HE WANTS TO BUY MY PIZZERIA, SO WE SIT DOWN TO NEGOTIATE THE PRICE.

AND TY SAYS, WELL, RICK, YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO GO TO FLORIDA, ALL RIGHT.

I'M WILLING TO PAY YOU $2 MILLION FOR YOUR PIZZERIA, BUT I HEARD THE OTHER DAY THAT YOU WANDERING AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU WERE LOOKING IN THIS EMPTY STORE FRONT A COUPLE OF FEET DOWN FROM HERE AND YOU EVEN TOOK A TOUR OF IT.

I'M AFRAID MAYBE YOU ARE GOING TO SELL YOUR PIZZERIA AND THEN OPEN UP ANOTHER ONE A COUPLE BLOCKS DOWN.

IF THAT'S THE CASE, I'M ONLY WILLING TO PAY YOU A MILLION DOLLARS.

I SAID DON'T WORRY, I'M LEAVING AND TY SAYS ARE YOU WILLING TO PUT THAT IN WRITING?

YES.

WELL, IN SOME STATES, WE ARE PRECLUDED FROM HAVING THAT GO INTO THE CONTRACT.

SO TY SAYS I'M SORRY, THE MOST I'M WILLING TO PAY YOU FOR YOUR PIZZERIA IS A MILLION DOLLARS.

I'M REALLY GOING TO FLORIDA AND THAT NON-COMPETE, SINCE I CAN'T PUT THAT NON-COMPETE CLAUSE IN THERE, THAT'S GOING TO COST ME A LOT OF MONEY.

>> RICK IS BRINGING UP A REALLY GOOD POINT.

THERE ARE TWO BRANCHES.

THE BUSINESS ONE THAT IS VERY WELL ESTABLISHED.

IF YOU HAVE A BUSINESS, SELLING YOUR BUSINESS, THAT THERE IS A YEAR, TWO YEARS, UP TO FIVE YEARS THAT YOU CAN'T OPEN UP A SIMILAR BUSINESS.

AND AGAIN, IT'S STATE BY STATE.

THEN WE HAVE THE INDIVIDUAL ONE, WHICH, I BELIEVE CALIFORNIA IS ONE OF THE STATES THAT HAS ALREADY TAKEN A LEAD IN THIS AND DOES NOT ALLOW FOR NON-COMPETE CLAUSES IN EMPLOYERS.

SO I MEAN WE DO HAVE THE TWO DIFFERENT BRANCHES, JUST SO IT'S CLEAR.

>> BUT THERE ARE 30 MILLION AMERICANS, ONE FIFTH OF ALL THE LABOR FORCE HAS TO SIGN THESE NON-COMPETE.

IT'S RIDICULOUS, UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICE.

AS A FORMER CHEF OF KENTUCKY FRID CHICKEN.

I KNEW THE SECRET RECIPE.

ITER MEANS I COULDN'T GO TO ANOTHER-- AS I MADE MY WAY UP THE FOOD SERVICE INDUSTRY, I COULDN'T GO AND DO THAT?

THAT'S RICKRY DICK LEWIS.

WASHINGTON STATE AND CALIFORNIA HAVE PASSED IT.

I HOPE KATHY HOCHUL CAN SIGN THAT TOMORROW SO MORE CHEFS CAN MOVE ON AND MAKE MORE MONEY.

>> CAN YOU PUT THAT RECIPE RIGHT THERE?

>> CALIFORNIA HAS NOT ENFORCED THESE FOR JUST ABOUT EVER AND SILICON VALLEY HAS HAD NO PROBLEM FLOURISHING SO I AGREE FOR THE VAST, VAST MAJORITY OF CASES... >> THERE IS TALK OF A FEDERAL BAN, THE FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION WITH PRETTY AGGRESSIVE COMMISSIONER RIGHT NOW.

IN TRYING TO TO KEEP BIG COMPANIES, CERTAINLY FROM INSTITUTING THESE AGREEMENTS.

SO I'M NOT SURE I HAVE YOU ON THE RECORD.

ARE YOU IN FAVOR?

SHOULD HOCHUL SIGN THIS BILL?

>> WITH THESE EXCEPTIONS, SHE CERTAINLY SHOULD.

IF AN EMPLOYER PAYS YOU TO DO SOMETHING, IF YOU DON'T WANT ME TO DO SOMETHING LIKE BE IN A SIMILAR INDUSTRY, THEN PAY ME SOME KIND OF SEVERANCE, BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST TELLING SOMEONE THAT I'M PAYING YOU $10 OR $15 AN HOUR AND FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS, YOU CAN'T GO IN A SIMILAR TRADE, I DON'T THINK, IS DEFENSIBLE.

I THINK SHE SHOULD SIGN IT WITH THE EXCEPTIONS.

>> IT'S EXPLOITIVE.

>> AND IT SUPPRESSES WAGES, RIGHT?

>> RIGHT.

>> BECAUSE IF YOU CAN'T GO TO THE COMPETITION TO GET A BUMP, YOU ARE SORT OF STUCK.

>> IT'S PART OF WHAT THE LONG-TERM, WHERE THE ONES AT THE VERY TOP GET THE MOST MONEY AND THE 50% AT THE BOTTOM GET 1% OF G.D.P.

AND THIS IS A WAY OF RIGHTING THAT SHIP.

>> SO THE ECONOMIC INEQUALITY THAT HEAR ABOUT FREQUENTLY.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE COACH OF THE TEXAS A&M AGGIES HAD A NON-COMPETE IN HIS CONTRACT, BUT HE GOT FIRED THIS WEEK.

THE UNIVERSITY PAID JIMBO FISHER ALMOST 77 MILLION DOLLARS TO GO AWAY.

UP IN MICHIGAN, THE ESTEEMED PUBLIC UNIVERSITY WENT TO COURT TO OVERTURN THE SUSPENSION OF ITS COACH FOR CHEATING-HIS SECOND SUSPENSION THIS YEAR.

THAT CASE WAS SETTLED YESTERDAY AND THE UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN DROPPED ITS OBJECTION.

BUT WHAT DO RECENT DECISIONS IN THE NCAA TELL IS US ABOUT HIGHER EDUCATION, SNRIK.

>> IN MY OPINION, DIVISION 1 FOOTBALL AND BASKETBALL ARE INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE ACADEMIC MISSIONS OF HIGHER ED THESE DAYS.

IT'S BECOME BIG BUSINESS THAT MAKES A LOT OF MONEY FOR COACHES AND ADMINISTRATORS AND FEEDS THE EGO OF WEALTHY DONORS AT THE EXPENSE OF STUDENTS, ATHLETES AND TAXPAYERS.

BY THE WAY, I SEPARATED STUDENTS AND ATHLETES.

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT STUDENT ATHLETES BECAUSE THEY ARE, FOR THE MOST PART IN BASKETBALL AND FOOTBALL NOT STUDENT ATHLETES ANYMORE.

IT'S INTERESTING.

NCAA RELEASED FIGURES, 2021 THERE WAS ABOUT $13.3 BILLION OF REVENUE FOR DIVISION 1 ATHLETICS.

BUT EXPENSE IS $13.7 BILLION.

EVEN AMONGST THE TOP 65 POWER FIVE CONFERENCE UNIVERSITIES, ONLY 25 OF THEM MADE MONEY.

45 OF THEM LOST MONEY.

SO THIS ARGUMENT THAT SOMEHOW ATHLETICS IS PROVIDING ENOUGH MONEY TO RUN NOT ONLY ATHLETICS BUT HAVE A SPILLOVER TO THE MAIN UNIVERSITY AND IT'S FUNCTIONS IS NOT TRUE AT ALL.

>> SO THE WAY TO PERHAPS STEM THESE HUGE BUYOUTS AND JIM BOW FISHER, WHILE IT'S THE BIGGEST IS NOT THE ONLY ONE BY ANY MEANS, IS MAYBE TO PAY FOR THE LABOR?

>> IT'S EXPLOITIVE ISSUE.

OUR SECOND ISSUE OF EXPLOITIVE LABOR TODAY AND THIS IS ANOTHER ONE AND IT EXEMPLOYEDS AFRICAN-AMERICAN MEN TO HELP PAY FOR THESE COACHES AND IT PAYS FOR THE UPPER MIDDLE CLASS WHITE KIDS TO PLAY TENNIS, GOLF, HOCKEY, LACROSSE AND OTHER ONES.

IT'S EVEN WORSE.

FOOTBALL IS SUCH A DANGEROUS INDUSTRY.

THE REASON THEY CALL THEM STUDENT ATHLETES GOES BACK TO THE 1960s WHEN SOMEONE WAS PARALYZED AND THEY SUED FOR WORKER'S COMPENSATION BECAUSE THEY WORKED MORE THAN 40 HOURS A WEEK AND THEY SAID NO, THEY'RE STUDENT ATHLETES.

IT WAS TO PREVENT THEM FROM BEING PAID WORKER'S COMPENSATION.

I THOUGHT I WOULD QUOTE WHAT BRETT KAVANAUGH SAID ABOUT THIS.

"FOR NOT PAYING STUDENT ATHLETES IN INNOCUOUS LABELS BUT THE LABELS CANNOT DISGUISE THE REALITY.

THE NCAA'S BUSINESS MODEL WOULD BE FLATLY ILLEGAL IN ALMOST ANY OTHER INDUSTRY IN AMERICA."

>> I'M GOING TO-- I AGREE.

THIS IS A SILLY RIDICULOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY, A BROKE E SYSTEM AT THAT PART BUT I WILL PUSH BACK ON IT NOT BEING PART OF THE UNIVERSITY EXPERIENCE, THAT ATHLETICS NOT ONLY BRINGS A COMPETITIVE ASPECT TO YOUR UNIVERSITY AND HELPS YOU FEEL PROUD THAT YOU ARE A GOLDEN KNIGHT OR THAT YOU ARE A MOOSE, WHATEVER OR WHOEVER IT IS.

THAT BRINGS YOU TOGETHER.

THAT TOGETHERNESS AND BEING COMMUNITY AND THAT PART IS HUGE.

THAT'S A BIG PART OF BEING A UNIVERSITY IN A COLLEGE.

THE OTHER PART IS THE PEOPLE ON THE TEAM LEARN TO WORK TOGETHER.

THEY LEARN HOW TO SYNERGIZE AND THEY LEARN HOW TO BE PART OF A COMMON GOAL AND THAT'S HARD TO TEACH IN A CLASSROOM BUT IT'S JUST AS IMPORTANT AS WHAT WE TEACH IN THE CLASSROOM.

>> OKAY, BUT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS PART OF AN ACADEMIC I GOES?

>> YES, I DO THINK IT SHOULD BE.

WE ARE PREPARING YOUR STUDENTS TO BE THE BEST VERSION OF THEMSELVES, NOT ONLY JUST FROM A SCIENTIFIC STANDPOINT, BUT ALSO FROM A LIBERAL ARTS STANDPOINT AND THE SOFT SKILLS THAT PEOPLE NEED TO LEARN WHEN THEY GO INTO THE WORKFORCE.

SO IT'S NOT ABOUT TEACHING PEOPLE JUST TO BE ABLE TO COMPUTE QUICKLY AND TO BE SUCCESSFUL AS A MACHINE, LIKE A.I., BUT IT'S ALSO TO BE A FULL HUMAN BEING.

>> SCHOLARSHIPS FOR BASSOON PLAYERS.

THAT'S WHAT I'M AFTER.

>> WELL, THERE ARE SOME ARTS SCHOLARSHIPS THAT ARE OUT THERE BUT I THINK IT'S INTERESTING TO KNOW, THAT I MENTIONED $13.3 BILLION, WELL, 22% OF THAT, A FULL QUARTER OF THAT MONEY GOES JUST TO PAY COACHES SALARIES.

ANOTHER 18% IS FOR ADMINISTRATION SALARIES, A.D., ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT.

AND SEVERANCE PACKAGES I.I.E., THE $7 P MILLION THAT FISHER IS GOING TO GET SO 40% OF THAT MONEY IS GOING TO A VERY, VERY SMALL NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS.

20% GOES TO STUDENT AID AND YOU ARE RIGHT, MUCH OF THAT IS A GOOD DEAL.

THAT COMPENSATION IS A GOOD DEAL FOR ATHLETES IN NON-REVENUE PRODUCING SPORTS.

>> IN TERMS OF STUDENT AID, JIM BOW FISHER'S $77 MILLION COULD PAY FOR 1666 FULL TUITION SCHOLARSHIPS THAT TEXAS A&M.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY IN RESPONSE TO BEN, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE, IT TEACHES THOSE COMMUNICATION SKILLS, WORKING TOGETHER SKILLS.

IT DOES TEACH THOSE SKILLS FOR A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE COLLEGE POPULATION.

THE REST OF THE COLLEGE POPULATION ONLY BENEFITS PERIPHERALLY FROM THAT.

AND AS, YOU KNOW, A NERD FROM SCHOOL, YOU KNOW, HOW OFTEN DID I REALLY ATTEND, YOU KNOW, SPORTS EVENTS?

HOW OFTEN DID I REALLY FEEL CONNECTED TO THOSE SPORTING EVENTS?

SO I THINK YOU ARE CONNECT.

IT DOES PROVIDE ALL THOSE THINGS.

BUT FOR ME THE QUESTION ALWAYS IS FOR WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE STUDENT POPULATION?

AND UNLESS YOU GO TO ONE OF THE BIG 10 SCHOOLS THAT IS CONSTANTLY WINNING, YOU KNOW, LIKE AN OHIO STATE OR MICHIGAN STATE, HOW MANY STUDENTS ARE REALLY A PART OF THAT, TRULY FEEL A PART OF IT UNLESS THEY HAPPEN TO GET LUCKY AND IT HAPPENS TO BE A WINNING SEASON FOR THEIR TEAM?

>> GREAT POINTS BUT I WILL ALSO SAY FOR BRANDING, A REVENUE STREAM DOES HELP THE STUDENTS.

>> DONORS GIVE MONEY FOR THE FOOTBALL TEAM.

IT WOULD BE INTERESTING WHETHER THEY WILL CONTINUE TO GIVE MONEY IF THERE WEREN'T A TEAM.

>> THAT'S A TRANSACTIONAL GIFT.

I GET BETTER SEATS.

OTHER PHILANTHROPY... >> AND THEY'RE IN CONTROL AT THAT POINT.

WE NEED TO GO TO OUR AS AND Fs.

TY, YOUR F. >> MY F GOES TO DONALD TRUMP AND THOSE ENABLING HIM.

HE CALLED HIS OPPONENTS VERMIN.

COMPARED MIGRANTS TO SILENCE OF THE LAMB HANNIBAL LECHTER.

HE SAID IMMIGRANTS WERE POISONING THE BLOOD OF OUR COUNTRY.

STRAIGHT OUT OF THE 20th CENTURY FASCISM BOOK.

REPUBLICANS MUST STOP ENABLING THIS VIOLENT LANGUAGE.

IT LED TO JANUARY 6 AND NEXT TIME IT COULD BE WORSE.

>> TARA.

>> MY F GOES TO THE SUPREME COURT FOR ITS ALLEGEDLY NEW CODE OF ETHICS FOR GOVERNING ITSELF.

THE POLICY BARELY MOVES BEYOND THE CODE OF ETHICS FOR ALL FEDERAL JUDGES AND FURTHERMORE, THERE IS NO OVERSIGHT IN DETERMINING WHO IS GOING TO POLICE THIS CODE AND WHAT THE PENALTIES WILL BE IF SOMEONE VIOLATES THIS CODE.

>> AND BEN, YOUR F. >> MY F GOES TO SENATOR MOLIN FOR CHALLENGING TO FIGHT A UNION BUST DURING A SENATE HEARING THIS WEEK ON TUESDAY.

ALTHOUGH THE OKLAHOMA REPUBLICAN IS A FORMER MMA FIGHTER AND WAS RESPONDING TO INSULTING REMARKS THAT HE RECEIVED ON X FORMERLY KNOWN AS TWITTER, MOST WOULD AGREE A SENATE HEARING IS NOT THE TIME OR PLACE FOR AN MMA MATCH.

>> AND RICK, YOUR F. >> MY F GOES TO THE SUPREME COURT BUT FOR SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT REASONS THAN TARA.

I BELIEVE THE RECENTLY RELEASED CODE OF ETHICS IS A DISPLAY OF ARROGANCE AND DISMISSIVENESS, PARAPHRASING, THE ABSENCE OF A CODE HAS LED TO A MISUNDERSTANDING THAT THE JUSTICES OF THIS COURT REGARD THEMSELVES AS UNRESTRICTED BY ANY ETHICS RULES TO DISPEL THIS UNDERSTANDING MISUNDERSTANDING WE ARE ISSUING THIS CODE.

THEY SEE NO PROBLEM WITH THE BEHAVIOR OF JUSTICES LIKE CLARENCE THOMAS TAKING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF GIFTS.

THEY'RE THE VICTIMS OF AN UNINFORMED PUBLIC THAT JUST DOESN'T UNDERSTAND.

>> LET'S GO TO OUR As.

>> MY A GOES TO THE 852 U.S. ARMY GENERALS AND ADMIRALS FOR NEARLY A YEAR SENATOR TUBBERVILLE HAS STOPPED THEIR PROMOTIONS UPENDING THEIR LIVES CAREERS AND FAMILIES.

THEY HAVE NOT SAID A WORD IN PUBLIC.

THEY CONTINUE TO SERVE SELFLESSLY EVEN THOUGH THEY DO TWO OR THREE JOBS SIMULTANEOUSLY.

OUR MILITARY REMAINS APOLITICAL AND EVEN THOUGH TUBBERVILLE HAS MADE THEM POLITICAL PAWNS.

>> MY A GOES TO THE U.S. ARMY FOR FINALLY OVERTURNING THE CONVICTIONS OF 110 BLACK SOLDIERS CONVICTED FOR PARTICIPATING IN THE 1917 HUGHES AN RIOTS.

THOSE MEN, MEMBERS OF THE THIRD BATTALION, 24th INFANTRY REGIMEN HAD ENDURED RACIAL AND PREJUDICIAL TREATMENT BEFORE THE RIOTS OCCURRED.

THEY FINALLY REACHED A POINT WHERE THEY COULD NOT TAKE ANYMORE AND I'M ALSO GIVING AN A TO THEM BECAUSE THEY TOOK IT SO THAT OTHERS WOULD NOT HAVE TO.

>> BEN.

>> MY A IS GOING TO Dr. MUZATAZUNA.

WHILE FORGING AN ADDITIONAL CONNECTIONS AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR STUDENTS IN HAVE I ENA, HE UNEXPECTEDLY PASSED AWAY.

HE HAD AN UNWAVERING COMMITMENT AND LOVE FOR HIS STUDENTS.

FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF HIS STUDENTS WROTE ON LINKEDIN THAT WHILE HE ACHIEVED NUMEROUS PROFESSIONAL GOALS, HE WILL BE REMEMBERED FOR HIS KINDNESS, GENEROSITY OF SPIRIT AND IMPACT ON HIS COLLEAGUES AND FRIENDS.

I CANNOT EXPRESS THAT ANYMORE.

HE WILL BE DEEPLY MISSED BY ALL OF US.

HE IS A BEACON OF LIGHT AND WISDOM AND CONTINUES TO SHINE BRIGHT.

>> RICK, YOUR A.

>> TO THE SCHOOL BOARD OF SHERMAN TEXAS THAT OVERRODE THE SUPERINTENDENT AND THAT IT CANCEL THE PRODUCTION OF OKLAHOMA AFTER A TRRG STUDENT WAS CAST IN THE ROLE.

THEY KEPT THE PRODUCTION AND APOLOGIZED TO THE STUDENT AND CONSIDERING ACTION AGAINST THE ADMINISTRATORS.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.