>> BONNIE: THIS WEEK ON TO THE CONTRARY: FIRST, WILL WOMEN'S ANGER DECIDE THE MIDTERMS?

THEN, AMERICANS' CHANGING VIEWS OF THE #METOO MOVEMENT?

>> BONNIE: HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE.

WELCOME TO TO THE CONTRARY, A DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL TRENDS FROM DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES.

UP FIRST, ELECTION DAY IS UPON US.

YET MORE THAN 20-MILLION AMERICANS HAVE ALREADY CAST BALLOTS THROUGH EARLY VOTING.

ACCORDING TO CNN AND THE DATA COMPANY CATALIST WOMEN ARE MORE LIKELY TO VOTE EARLY THAN MEN.

56% IN GEORGIA, 54% IN TEXAS, FLORIDA AND TENNESSEE AND 53% IN NEVADA.

AND SOME ANALYSTS SAY REPUBLICANS ARE VOTING AT HIGHER RATES THAN DEMOCRATS.

LATE THIS WEEK OPRAH WINFREY CAME OUT TO CAMPAIGN FOR STACEY ABRAMS WHO COULD BECOME THE FIRST FEMALE AFRICAN AMERICAN GOVERNOR.

AND WITH 256 WOMEN RUNNING FOR THE SENATE OR HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES THERE ARE MORE THAN A FEW RACES WHERE WOMEN ARE RUNNING AGAINST OTHER WOMEN.

THE SENATE RACE IN ARIZONA BETWEEN MARTHA MCSALLY AND KIRSTEN SINEMA IS ONE.

DEMOCRATIC POLLSTER CELINDA LAKE SAYS THE SUBURBAN VIRGINIA HOUSE RACE BETWEEN INCUMBENT REPUBLICAN BARBARA COMSTOCK AND CHALLENGER JENNIFER WEXTON IS ALSO ONE TO WATCH.

>> CELINDA: THAT WILL BE A REAL BELLWETHER FOR AN UPSCALE SUBURBAN DISTRICT, ALSO A WOMAN-WOMAN RACE; BECAUSE IN THE PRIMARIES, WHERE A WOMAN RAN AS A DEMOCRAT, 71% OF THE WOMEN WON.

WHERE A WOMAN RAN AS A REPUBLICAN, ONLY 29% WON THEIR PRIMARIES.

AND I THINK IN THE END, THE REPUBLICANS ARE GONNA CONCLUDE THAT ONE OF THE BIGGEST MISTAKES THEY MADE IS NOT NOMINATING MORE WOMEN CANDIDATES.

SO THESE WOMAN-WOMAN RACES ARE GONNA BE VERY, VERY INTERESTING >> ASHLEY: IT'S CERTAINLY GOING TO BE THE YEAR OF THE WOMAN, IT'S BEEN THE YEAR OF THE FEMALE CANDIDATE, >> BONNIE: REPUBLICAN POLLSTER ASHLEY STEPHENSON BELIEVES BARBARA COMSTOCK HAS A GREAT SHOT AT WINNING AGAINST WEXTON DESPITE THE DISTRICT LEANING BLUE.

SHE ALSO WANTS TO SEE MORE REPUBLICAN WOMEN CANDIDATES.

>> ASHLEY: I THINK THAT REPUBLICANS HAVE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB, RECRUITING EXCELLENT FEMALE CANDIDATES.

ONE RACE THAT I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN IS FLORIDA 27.

THE ILEANA ROSS LEHTINEN.

FOR A LONG TIME WE TALKED ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE OF THE ISLE, WHO'S GOING TO RUN, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A FORMIDABLE CANDIDATE AND NOW WE DO WITH MARIA SALAZAR >> BONNIE: SALAZAR IS RUNNING AGAINST FORMER HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICE SECRETARY AND UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI PRESIDENT DONNA SHALALA.

BUT STEPHENSON SAYS WOMEN VOTERS ARE CONCERNED WITH MORE THAN GENDER WHEN THEY VOTE.

>> ASHLEY STEPHENSON: I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S EVER SAFE OR FAIR TO ASSUME THAT MORE FEMALE CANDIDATES ARE GOING TO RESULT IN MORE INTEREST FROM FEMALE VOTERS.

I THINK IT ALL COMES DOWN TO BEING A REALLY GOOD CANDIDATE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHO HAS A MESSAGE THAT'S GOING TO APPEAL TO THE VOTER.

>> BONNIE: AND LAKE SAYS WATCH THE PRESIDENT'S APPROVAL RATING OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS.

THAT NUMBER GIVES CLUES ABOUT THIS YEAR'S WOMEN'S VOTE.

LAKE SAYS THE PRESIDENT'S APPROVAL RATING WILL INFLUENCE ELECTION RESULTS ESPECIALLY FOR WOMEN.

>> CELINDA LAKE: IT ALWAYS GOES DOWN AFTER MAJOR EVENTS WHERE THEY THINK THE COUNTRY NEEDS TO COME TOGETHER.

NO MATTER WHAT HE DOES PEOPLE THINK, PARTICULARLY WOMEN VOTERS, THINK HE'S NOT THE UNIFIER THAT WE NEED IN THESE TIMES OF CRISIS.

THE KEY IN MANY DISTRICTS IS GOING TO BE THE WHITE, NON-COLLEGE EDUCATED, BLUE-COLLAR, WOMAN VOTER, PARTICULARLY MARRIED AND "DOES SHE VOTE DIFFERENTLY FROM HER HUSBAND?

WE COULD HAVE A RECORD GENDER GAP BETWEEN MARRIED WOMEN AND MARRIED MEN AROUND THE ISSUES AND AROUND THE CANDIDATES AND WE'RE GONNA NEED THAT TO WIN.

>> BONNIE: SO CONGRESSWOMAN, WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL DECIDE THE MID TERMS, WILL IT BE WHITE SUBURBAN COLLEGE-EDUCATED WOMEN OR WOMEN OF COLOR?

>> ELEANOR: WELL, CHANGE IS IN THE AIR, BONNIE.

UNLESS THEY BREAK RANKS, WHITE WOMEN HAVE TENDED TO FOLLOW THEIR HUSBANDS AND VOTE REPUBLICAN AND BLACK WOMEN THINK FOR THEMSELVES AND VOTE DEMOCRAT.

>> AS A WOMAN OF COLOR I HAVE TO SAY IT IS THE FORMER.

IT IS THE WHITE EDUCATED -- YOU KNOW, THE WEALTHIER WOMAN.

I'M THINKING OF GEORGIA WHEN I THINK OF WOMEN WHO CAN ESSENTIALLY DECIDE.

THEY LIKE PRO--BUSINESS POLICIES AND DON'T LIKE TRUMP'S RHETORIC.

>> I THINK IT IS GOING TO BE THE WHITE SUBURBAN VOTER THAT MAKES THE DIFFERENCE.

THEY HAVE TO TURN OUT THOUGH AND THAT IS THE BIG QUESTION.

>> ALL THE WHITE WOMEN I KNOW DON'T NECESSARILY VOTE THE WAY THEIR HUSBAND SAYS.

I DISAGREE RESPECTFULLY HILLARY WHO SAID THE SAME THING.

I THINK THEY COULD MAKE THE DECISION JUST LIKE THEY DID IN 92.

THE BUSH ELECTION.

>> BONNIE: DO YOU THINK THE DEMOCRATS WILL TAKE THE HOW ELSE AND WILL IT BE BECAUSE OF WHITE COLLEGE-EDUCATED WOMEN WHO DESERTED HILLARY.

TRUMP WON THE WHITE WOMEN'S VOTE.

USUALLY REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEES HAVE WON WHITE MARRIED WOMEN.

HE WON ALL WOMEN WHICH WAS -- >> BECAUSE I THINK THEY ARE THE SWING, I THINK THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT A RACE LITERALLY THE NEXT FEW DAYS WILL DECIDE IT IS BIZARRE.

IT IS NOT DECIDED ALREADY.

BUT IT IS SO VOLATILE I THINK IT COULD BE A 3 TO 4 SEAT SWING EITHER WAY.

>> FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS I HAVE BEEN GIVEN THIS ANSWER AND I STILL STAND BY IT.

HILLARY WAS NOT FOR EVERY WOMAN.

AND MYSELF INCLUDED THOUGHT SHE WAS OUT OF TOUCH WHAT THE AVERAGE AMERICAN WOMEN'S PLIGHT IS.

I THINK IT WAS ABOUT THE CANDIDATE.

WOMEN WANTED CHANGE AND THEY WERE WILLING TO TAKE A RISK ON TRUMP.

>> OH, PLEASE.

>> THEY WERE.

>> OH, PLEASE.

HOWEVER YOU THOUGHT ABOUT HILLARY AND THIS -- >> I ADMIRE WHAT SHE DID.

SHE WAS NOT FOR EVERYONE.

SHE'S BEEN LIVING A HIGH-LIFE FOR DECADES.

>> LOOK, TRUMP SHOWED HIS TRUE COLORS REPUBLICAN WOMEN WAY BEFORE HE GOT INTO OFFICE.

IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CLEAR WHAT KIND OF A JERK HE WAS WHEN IT CAME TO WOMEN HOW HE HAD TREATED WOMEN.

ENOUGH TO MAKE YOU -- >> I AGREE.

>> ENOUGH TO MAKE YOU ABIDE WHATEVER COMPUNCTIONS YOU HAD FOR A WOMAN THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN FOR A WOMAN AND VOTE FOR A MAN WHO SHOWED HOW ANTIWOMAN AND WHAT A -- A TERRIBLE -- HOW TERRIBLE WHEN HE BE FOR WOMEN AND HE'S BEEN THAT WAY IN OFFICE AS WELL E REPUBLICAN WOMEN GOT WHAT THEY DESERVED.

>> I THINK ELEANO ENCAPSULIZES THAT PART OF THE ELECTORATE THAT IS VERY ANGRY.

THE FEMALE ELECTORATE.

BUT I KNOW A LARGE PART OF THE FEMALE ELECTORATE THAT DOES ADMIRE HIS BUSINESS POLICIES AND SEE HE HAS CREATED JOBS THAT THEY AND THEIR SONS AND THEIR HUSBANDS HAVE AND THEY FEEL HE'S DONE A LOT OF GOOD.

WOMEN HAVE GENERALLY TENDED IN PAST ELECTIONS TO VOTE FOR CANDIDATES THAT CAN GIVE THEM SECURITY BOTH ECONOMIC AND NATIONAL SECURITY AND THEY STILL SEE THAT WITH HIM.

SO -- BUT THERE ARE ENOUGH THAT FEEL LIKE ELEANOR DOES, IT IS VOLATILE.

>> I FEEL LIKE ELEANOR DIDN'T AND I AM MAD -- >> YOU TELL US DEBORAH.

>> I AM.

WOMEN EDUCATED VOTERS THAT VOTED FOR TRUMP AROUND I'M ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE AND OF COURSE I DID NOT VOTE FOR TRUMP.

>> BONNIE: ARE YOU MAD ENOUGH IF YOU CAN GET INTO THE HEADS OF THE WHITE REPUBLICAN WOMEN WHO DID VOTE FOR TRUMP, ARE THEY MAD ENOUGH OVER THE KAVANAUGH HEARINGS TO SWITCH PARTIES AND TO GET OUT AND VOTE?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

I DON'T KNOW.

IT IS HARD FOR ME TO GET INTO THEIR HEADS BUT I CAN'T GET INTO -- I CAN GET INTO HEADS OF DEMOCRAT WOMEN MUCH MORE EASILY AND INDEPENDENT WOMEN.

I THINK THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE WOMEN WHO DIDN'T COME OUT AND VOTE BEFORE FOR TRUMP THAT WERE DEMOCRATS.

WHO DIDN'T COMES OUT FOR HILLARY ARE GOING TO COME OUT AND VOTE AGAINST TRUMP.

>> YOU HAVE THE MAMA GRIZZLIES COMING OUT OF THE KAVANAUGH HEARINGS AND MAMA GRIZZLIES ARE THE ONES THAT LOOKED AT KAVANAUGH AND SAW THEIR SON AND SAW HE WAS BEING PICKED ON AND THERE IS A VERY LARGE GROUP OF WOMEN THAT DEMOCRATS MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET BUT THEY WERE MAD.

I CAN'T BELIEVE THE CALLS I GOT FROM PEOPLE THAT HAD BEEN ON TRUMP'S CASE FOR OTHER STUFFER AND THEY SAID, THIS IS DISGUSTING.

WHAT ARE THE DEMOCRATS DOING.

PICKING ON THIS GUY.

HE'S TRULY A GOOD GUY.

THESE ARE TRUMPED UP CHARGES.

MAMA GRIZZLY.

GRRRRRR.

>> I'M NOT SURPRISED.

>> THAT WAS THE MOST CREDIBLE ACCUSER YOU WILL EVER HAVE.

>> I'M SAW HIS IT WAS ALL -- WAIT.

WAIT.

>> BONNIE: LET HER TALK.

>> THIS CAME DOWN TO POLITICS ONLY.

IT NEVER CAME DOWN TO HER.

IN FACT, IT REALLY -- I'M SURE IT TURNED WOMEN OFF AND MAY IN FACT EM BOLDEN THEM TO GO TO THE POLLS BECAUSE SHE HAD THE GOODS ON THEM.

SHE ACTUALLY HAD WITNESSES AND YET THE POLARIZED POLITICS -- THAT PEOPLE NEVERTHELESS -- >> LET'S NOT RELITIGATE.

>> OKAY.

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE KAVANAUGH AFFECT BUT I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK AND REDO THE HEARINGS.

BUT I WANT TO -- ELEANOR, YOU'RE ONE OF WHAT, 78 WOMEN IN THE HOUSE NOW?

PLAINTIFF IS THAT THE NUMBER?

>> ABOUT THAT.

REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT.

>> BONNIE: AND 256 ARE RUNNING FOR FEDERAL OFFICE NOT ALL OF THEM FOR THE HOUSE.

HOW MANY MORE WOMEN DO YOU PREDICT WILL BE IN THE HOUSE COME JANUARY?

>> ELEANOR: I BELIEVE WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THAT THERE HAVE BEEN WOMEN HAVE BEEN SO EMBOLDEN BY TRUMP AROUND BY THE REPUBLICAN CONGRESS.

REMEMBER WE HAVE A REPUBLICAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND IN THE CONGRESS THAT THERE ARE A SURPLUS OF WOMEN RUNNING.

SO I DO THINK YOU WILL SEE AN AFFECT BUT WHEN EVERY WOMAN IN THE COUNTRY VIRTUALLY AND OBVIOUSLY I'M EXAGGERATING WHEN MANY, MANY WOMEN GET IN THE RACE, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOME MEN WIN BECAUSE THEY ARE SOME -- SO MANY WOMEN IN THE RACE.

BUT WHAT HAS BEEN ENCOURAGING IS HOW MANY HAVE BELIEVED THEY HAD TO GET IN THERE AND DO IT FOR THEMSELVES RATHER THAN LEAVE IT TO THE MEN.

>> BONNIE, I HAVE TO TELL YOU THIS IS WHY YOUR SHOW IS SO WONDERFUL.

THE DISCUSSION THAT YOU'RE HEARING REALLY DOES REFLECT THE DEBATE IN THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF HAVING MORE WOMEN I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT ON THE DEMOCRAT SIDE COULD BE AS MANY AS 25 TO 30 MORE WOMEN WHO ARE ELECTED THAT ARE NOT INCUMBENT -- >> BONNIE: IN THE HOUSE OR -- >> IN THE HOUSE.

IN THE SENATE I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE REPUBLICAN WOMAN AND PROBABLY TWO -- >> BONNIE: WHO IS THAT?

>> MARCIA BLACKBURN AND POSSIBLY McSALLY AS WELL AND OF COURSE THAT IS REPLACING -- SO THERE IS ONE NET GAIN OF A WOMAN, NET GAIN FOR REPUBLICANS.

ON THE DEMOCRAT SIDE I'M NOT SURE THAT THERE WILL BE.

>> YOU -- >> BONNIE: YOU TOLD ME A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO AND I THOUGHT WAS FASCINATING THAT YOU THOUGHT DEMS WOULD DO BETTER IN THE SENATE THAN THEY WOULD IN THE HOUSE.

>> I DID.

>> BONNIE: EXPLAIN THAT.

YOU STILL BELIEVE THAT?

>> NO, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT ANY MORE.

BUT I DID AT THE TIME.

AND ONE OF THE REASONS HAD TO DO WITH THE GERRYMANDERING OF THE DISTRICTS THAT WE HAVE NOW IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES THAT MAKES IT SO HARD TO FLIP A SEAT.

SO THAT WAS MY REASONING BEHIND THAT.

TO WOMEN AND MEN IN THE HOUSE, I MEAN, HERE IS AN EXAMPLE.

I AM SUPPORTING A MAN RIGHT NOW WHO IS RUNNING AGAINST A WOMAN IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES IN MISSOURI'S SECOND DISTRICT.

AND, SO, MY POLITICS AREN'T NECESSARILY BASED ON ARE YOU A WOMAN AND I WANT TO SEND A WOMAN TO THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES BECAUSE THE CURRENT MEMBER THERE IS SO ANTI-WOMEN.

IN MY OPINION IN HER POLICIES.

SO I WANT TO SEND A YOUNG MAN WHO IS A PROGRESSIVE AND SUPPORTIVE OF WOMEN TO THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.

>> AND ALWAYS FOR REPUBLICAN WOMEN.

>> BONNIE: I WANT TO ASK OR I WANT TO CORRECT SOMETHING MY EXECUTIVE PRODUCER SAID.

MY 78 DEMOCRATIC WOMEN IN THE HOUSE, 29 ARE REPUBLICANS.

WHAT DO YOU SEE THE NUMBERS AT OF WOMEN IN THE HOUSE WHEN THIS ELECTIONOVERS?

>> WELL, I HATE PREDICTING.

I DON'T LIKE IT BECAUSE THIS ERA IS JUST NO GOOD FOR NUMBERS.

I WANT TO GO TO THE POLLSTER THAT WAS FEATURED IN THE PACKAGE BEFORE THIS DISCUSSION.

SHE'S A REPUBLICAN POLLSTER AND I DISAGREE WITH HER VEHEMENTLY.

THE REPUBLICANS HAVE DONE A TERRIBLE JOB RECRUITING WOMEN.

TERRIBLE.

I HAVE BEEN IN TRENCHES WITH THEM FOR A LONG TIME.

WE DON'T PLAY IDENTITY POLITICS.

THAT'S WHY.

THAT'S WHY IT IS HARD TO GET WOMEN OUT OF REPUBLICAN PRIMARIES BECAUSE THE IDENTITY POLITIC IS NOT THERE.

VOTE FOR HER BECAUSE SHE'S A WOMAN?

NO.

MOST REPUBLICAN WOMEN REJECT THAT.

WHAT I DO LOVE IS WOMEN ON WOMEN RACES.

I TRIED TO DO ONE IN FLORIDA SEVENTH WORKED TO UNSEAT THE INCUMBENCIED STEPHANIE MURPHY BUT SHE WAS UNSUCCESSFUL COMING OUT OF THE TRY MARY.

SHE WAS FIRST-TIMER.

IF YOU PIT WHITE VERSUS WHITE AND WHAT SEE IN COMSTOCK IT IS GOING TO BE -- >> BONNIE: COMSTOCK IS GOING TO LOSE RIGHT?

>> NOT NECESSARILY.

>> PLEASE P >> LAST POLL I SAW SHE WAS 12 POINTS BEHIND.

>> SHE'S THE MOST ENDANGERED REPUBLICAN OUT THERE WOMAN OR MAN.

>> BONNIE: STACEY ABRAMS, REALLY IMPORTANT RACE FOR DEMOCRATS BECAUSE SHE WOULD BE A HISTORIC FIRST I THINK BLACK GOVERNOR IF NOT FEMALE BLACK GOVERNOR.

>> FIRST -- THAT IS TRUE.

>> BUT SHE -- SHE IS FACING IN HER OPPONENT WHO IS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL THE WORST AND MOST UNFAIR SET OF RULES I HAVE EVER SEEN WHERE HE IS -- HAS MADE IT SO BECAUSE HE HAS THE POWER TO DO SO THAT -- >> BONNIE: YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT VOTER SUPPRESSION, KNOCKING 800,000 PEOPLE OFF THE ROLLS.

>> BY INSISTING YOUR NAME BE PRECISELY WHAT IT IS.

MY PEOPLE LIKE ME, ELEANOR HOLMES NORTON, I HAVE NO HYPHEN.

IF YOU -- SOMEBODY PUT A HYPHEN IN THERE, HOWEVER, ON THE ROLLS, THEN OF COURSE I COULDN'T VOTE.

AND THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT ARE EASILY OVERCOME.

THEY MAY MAKE YOU STEP ASIDE AND VOTE SEPARATELY AND PUT DOWN WHY YOU'RE VOTING SEPARATELY.

BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THAT.

IN THIS RELATION.

>> BONNIE: IS IT TIME TO REINSTATE ANY OF THOSE BEFORE THE ELECTION IS THERE A MECHANISM -- >> IT IS ALL UP TO THE DEMOCRAT TO SAY EDUCATE THESE WOMEN ABOUT THESE PEOPLE ABOUT -- >> BONNIE, I WORK THE ELECTION POLLS EVERY YEAR.

THEY HAVE PROVISIONAL BALLOTS.

ANYBODY THAT SHOWS UP THAT MAY HAVE BEEN KNOCKED OFF FOR THAT REASON THEY CAN FILE A PROVISIONAL BALLOT AND IT WILL BE COUNTED.

>> BONNIE: IF THEY HAVE BEEN KNOCKED OFF AND THEY DON'T KNOW -- THAT IS A FEMALE BLACK GOVERNOR MICHAEL THING TO KNOW ABOUT.

>> I WORK THE POLLS, TOO, AND I HAVE SEEN WHAT GOES ON AND YOU DON'T NECESSARILY SEE -- SAY TO EVERYBODY HERE IS A PROVISIONAL BALLOT.

>> I HAVE SEEN EDUCATION HAPPEN.

THIS YEAR MORE THAN ANY OTHER YEAR THAT PEOPLE ARE SPREADING THE PENCIL YOU'RE NOT TO LEAVE A POLLING PLACE UNLESS YOU ASK FOR PROVISIONAL BALLOT AND YOU ARE GIVEN ONE.

>> BONNIE: YOU HAVE TO GET THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE IF YOU THINK YOU'RE OFF THE ROLLS AND YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT PROVISIONAL BALLOTS WHICH IS A TECHNICAL THING TO KNOW ABOUT.

>> MY GRIPE WITH THE SITTING SECRETARY OF STATE.

I'M WITH FORMER PRESIDENT JIMMY QUARTER WHO A FEW DAYS AGO WROTE A BEAUTIFUL PIECE ASKING HIM TO STEP OUT OF THAT.

YOU SHOULD HAVE NO HAND IN THIS.

THIS IS SO UNFAIR AND SO RIDICULOUS.

REPUBLICANS ARE SCARED DOWN THERE.

THEY KNOW THAT WOMEN, THERE IS WEALTHY, EDUCATED WOMEN IN GEORGIA WHO ARE WHITE CAN CROSS OVER AND VOTE FOR STACEY ABRAMS.

THAT IS SCARY ACTUALLY.

>> BONNIE: WHAT ABOUT THE OPRAH EFFECT.

SHE GOT OBAMA ELECTED AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.

>> I WOULDN'T SAY THAT.

>> POWERHOUSE.

>> BONNIE: SHE CAME OUT EARLY.

SHE CAME OUT EARLY AND SHE -- >> DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE HER.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NOTICED BUT ALL OF THE CABLE NETWORKS CARRIED HER WHEN SHE SPOKE.

>> OF COURSE.

>> MSNBC, ALL CARRIED HER AS IF SHE WAS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

>> SHE IS MORE POWERFUL THAT REASON THE PRESIDENT.

>> SHE NEEDS FOR COME TO MISSOURI FOR CLAIRE MACK CASTE.

>> BONNIE: FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER@BONNIEERBETOTHECONTRARY.

NEXT KEEPING TABS ON THE ME MOVEMENT.

A NEW NPR/IPSOS POLL RELEASED THIS WEEK FINDS AMERICANS ARE MORE INFLUENCED BY PARTY THAN GENDER IN FORMING THEIR BELIEFS ON SEXUAL ASSAULT OR SEXUAL HARASSMENT.

EIGHTY PERCENT OF MEN AND 73% OF WOMEN BELIEVE THOSE ACCUSED OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT SHOULD BE GIVEN THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE A 7-POINT DIFFERENCE.

BUT THE PARTISAN GAP IS 16 POINTS WIDE AND IT'S BEEN WIDER SINCE THE PSALM POLL WAS TAKEN LAST YEAR.

AMERICANS ALSO SEEM TO BE UNCLEAR ON THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SEXUAL HARASSMENT AND ASSAULT.

56% OF REPUBLICANS VERSUS 39% OF DEMOCRATS AGREE IT IS SOMETIMES DIFFICULT TO TELL WHAT CONSTITUTES SEXUAL ASSAULT THE #METOO MOVEMENT DIVIDES AMERICANS ALONG PARTY LINES.

THREE-QUARTERS OF REPUBLICANS BELIEVE THAT THE MOVEMENT HAS GONE TOO FAR WHILE ONLY 1-5TH OF DEMOCRATS SAY THE SAME.

THERE IS A GENDER GAP, TOO, BUT IT IS NOTICEABLELY SMALLER.

SO MORE PARTISAN IN GENDER IN TERMS OF WHERE YOU COME OUT ON THE #METOO MOVEMENT.

HOW COULD AMERICANS IN THIS DAY AND ANAL NOT KNOW THAT SEXUAL HARASSMENT IS VERBAL, AND ASSAULT INVOLVES SOME PHYSICAL CONTACT.

>> SEX STILL EXISTS.

EDUCATED MEN OF ALL RACES OF ETHNICITY THINK IT IS TOTALLY FINE TO TALK TO A WOMAN IN A CERTAIN WAY.

I HAVE HAD NEIGHBORS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD SAY THINGS TO ME THEY DON'T REALIZE ARE OFFENSIVE BECAUSE THEY HAVE CERTAIN PRIVILEGE AND MEN ENJOY THAT PRIVILEGE.

THEY HAVE FOR SO LONG DON'T TO HAVE WHY ARE BIABOUT WHAT THEY SAY AND HOW THEY TREAT WOMEN.

WE DON'T RAISE OUR BOYS UP IN SOCIETY TO THINK ABOUT HOW THEY TREAT WOMEN.

WE RAISE OUR GIRLS TO BE MORE GUARDED.

DON'T WEAR THAT SHORT SKIRT.

DON'T WEAR THAT TOP.

WE'RE MORE AT BLAME ALWAYS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN.

I'LL BE VERY HONEST I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN THAT PARTISAN DIVIDE.

I WILL SAY I WAS PRETTY DISAPPOINTED IN OZZIE ARGENTO WHO FEELS ONE OF THE LEADERS OF THE #METOO MOVEMENT BEING INCREDIBLY ACCUSED OF HARASSING A YOUNG MALE ACTOR.

IT IS JUST A MESS OUT THERE.

WOMEN ARE STILL -- WE'RE EMPOWERED, YOUNGER WOMEN, MILLENNIAL WOMEN WE KNOW WHEN WE STEP INTO CERTAIN ARENA HOW TO BE COGNIZANT WHAT IS AROUND US.

MOST OF US ARE PRETTY SELF-WEAR BUT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE.

I'M PROUD OF THE MOVEMENT FOR WHAT IT HAS ACCOMPLISHED BECAUSE IT HAS TOUCHED A LOT OF INDUSTRIES.

LET'S BE HONEST.

BUT, YEAH.

>> BONNIE: ELEANOR, COULD IT HAVE EVOLVED IN A WAY THAT WOULDN'T HAVE TURNED -- THE #METOO MOVEMENT COULD IT HAVE EVOLVED IN A WAY THAT WOULDN'T TURN OFF ALL THESE REPUBLICANS OR IS IT LIKE -- >> ELEANOR: PROBABLY NOT IN THIS ATMOSPHERE BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS FUNNELED REALLY INTO WORSE PARTISAN DIVIDE SINCE THE CIVIL WAR.

IT IS NOT VIOLENT.

#METOO HAS NOT GONE FAR ENOUGH.

WITNESS YOU HAVE THE GOOGLE WOMEN STEP FORWARD AND WE TALKED ABOUT THEM PREVIOUSLY IN THIS SHOW.

WE HAD NOT HEARD FROM THEM BEFORE.

THINK ABOUT HOW MANY WOMEN YOU HAVE NOT HEARD FROM.

THE REASON IS, HOW DO YOU STEP FORWARD TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT OCCURRED THAT WAS HORRIBLELY OFFENSIVE MAYBE EVEN BE TOUCHING BUT IT OCCURRED IN PRIVATE.

SEXUAL HARASSMENT DOES NOT OCCUR WITH WITNESSES AROUND.

SO IT MAKES IT PERHAPS THE MOST DIFFICULT OFFENSE TO PROVE IT WILL ALWAYS BE THAT WAY AND THAT IS WHY WE HAVE TO BE WILLING TO ACCEPT WOMEN WHEN -- WITH WHAT THEY SAY AND NOT DOUBT THEM AND TO USE ESSENTIAL EVIDENCE.

>> BONNIE: DO YOU THINK IT IS EVOLVING TO BE MORE DIVISIVE THAN UNITING?

>> RINA: I THINK IT IS BLOSSOMING AND IT WILL TAMP DOWN A LITTLE BIT AND PEOPLE WILL COME AROUND.

BUT IN THIS COUNTRY TODAY YOU STILL HAVE PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE WOMEN WHO HAVE BEEN SUBJECTED TO DOMESTIC AABUSE AND HAVE THE SCARS TO PROVE IT OR BLAME FOR THEIR OWNER ABUSE.

THERE IS STILL A MINDSET CHANGE THAT HAS TO BE UNDERGONE IN THIS COUNTRY.

BUT THE #METOO MOVEMENT HAS BEEN A CRITICAL PART IN GETTING THAT CONVERSATION STARTED AT A MUCH HIGHER LEVEL.

I HAVE HOPES FOR THE FEWER IT WILL.

>> BONNIE: WHAT IMPACT IN THIS ELECTION DO YOU SEE FOR THE #METOO MOVEMENT?

>> RHINA: I THINK IT JUST GALVANIZES PEOPLE WHERE THERE IS CHARGES OF ABUSE, KEITH ELLISON I THINK IT COST HIM THE AG RAISES IN THAT CASE AND THERE HAVE BEEN SOME OTHER CASES, TOO, THERE HAVE BEEN CREDIBLE WITNESSES OF ABUSE AND THOSE CANDIDATES ARE LIKELY GOING TO GO DOWN AND THEY SHOULD.

I THINK THAT WILL HELP SEND A MESSAGE.

>> I THINK ALSO IN THESE ELECTIONS THAT THE #METOO MOVEMENT AND THE GOOGLE WALK OUT HAS REALLY ENERGIZED WOMEN.

AND I SEE THIS EVERY DAY WHEN I'M OUT THERE.

AND THEY ARE FIRED UP.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO THE POLLS AND THEY'RE RUNNING THE PHONE BANKS.

>> BONNIE: ARE THEY DEMOCRATS THAT DIDN'T USE TO VOTE OR -- DIDN'T VOTE IN THE LAST FUMELESS -- BUT ARE THEY -- OKAY >> NEWLY REGISTERED VOTERS, MILLENNIALS, VERY, VERY INVOLVED AND VERY FIRED UP.

>> BONNIE: BUT YOU KNOW WHEN OBAMA RAN, EKEDLY THE SECOND TIME, WE SAW ALL THESE RECORDS THAT ALL THESE MILLENNIALS WERE FIRED UP AND THEY DIDN'T TURN OUT.

SO WHAT MAKES IT DIFFERENT THIS TIME?

>> WELL, BECAUSE, I THINK THEY RELATE MORE TO LIKE #METOO MOVEMENTS AND THINGS THAT THEY'RE SEEING IN THE WORKPLACE AND NORMS AND ATTITUDES THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT THEY DON'T WANT FOR THEMSELVES AND THEY DON'T WANT THIS FOR THEIR GENERATION.

THEY'RE IDENTIFYING WITH THAT.

THEY DIDN'T HAVE THAT TO IDENTIFY WITH BECAUSE OF OBAMA.

>> THE OVERWHELMING SENTIMENT I HEAR FROM YOUNGER REPUBLICANS WHO DON'T LIKE TRUMP IS HE'S LAME.

HE JUST REALLY IS.

AN OLDER WHITE DUDE THAT MADE A LOT OF MONEY AND GETS TO BE CORRUPT AS HECK.

THEY SEE WHAT HAPPENED.

WHEN THEY DIDN'T GET OUT AND VOTE THEY SEE WHAT WE GOT.

WE GOT TRUMP.

HE'S NOT A PROBLEM BUT A SYMPTOM.

LOOK, I THINK THE #METOO IS TOUCHED BY -- >> BONNIE: LAME?

I'M SITTING HERE THINKING ABOUT LAME.

>> JUST LAME.

>> BONNIE: THERE ARE A LOT OF WORDS THAT ONE COULD USE TO DESCRIBE -- >> I HAVE CALLED HIM LAME.

>> BONNIE: BUT LAME SEEMS SO MELLOW.

I MEAN HE'S -- >> BUT THINK OF THE YOUNGER REPUBLICANS WHO ACTUALLY WERE EXCITED ABOUT WHERE THE PARTY WAS GOING AT SOME POINT.

I HAVE BEEN A PART OF THOSE MOVEMENTS.

WHEN WE SAW THIS GUY TURN UP WE KNOW HE'S CORRUPT.

HE'S PULLING THE WOOL OVER OUR EYES IN A WAY THAT HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE.

HE'S OFFENDING OUR SENSIBILITIES.

WE DON'T WANT SOMEBODY HIM IN OFFICE BUT WE WANT SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO TRY TO BE PATRIOTIC AND NOT WOMANIZE -- >> BONNIE: NOW FOR -- >> I WAS GATHERING LAST NIGHT IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA AND I WAS GRATIFIED THAT I KNEW NOBODY THERE.

THESE WERE PEOPLE THAT WERE NOT PARTISAN POLITICAL.

BUT THEY WERE THERE BECAUSE SOMEBODY THAT WAS SPEAKING THAT REALLY LIKES TRUMP AND THEY WANTED TO GO.

I HEARD TIME AND AGAIN FROM THE WOMEN IN THE ROOM ESPECIALLY THEY WERE SO GRATIFIED TO BE THERE BECAUSE THEY DID NOT FEEL THEY COULD SPEAK IN PUBLIC OR EVEN TO THEIR NEIGHBORS FOR FEAR OF BEING CHASTISED FOR BEING FOR TRUMP.

SO I THINK YOU MAY HAVE A CIRCLE OF FRIENDS THAT FEELS ONE WAY REPUBLICAN AND I HAVE ANOTHER CIRCLE THAT DOESN'T FEEL THAT WAY.

>> THEY FEEL THE SAME WAY BECAUSE ULTIMATELY DIDN'T WARRANT TO SHOUT IT TO THE HILL AND GENEVA -- THEY'RE NOT SHOUTING TO THE HILLTOPS AND SOME OF THEM WE GET OUT HERE BECAUSE THIS RACE IS CLOSER THAN IT SHOULD BE.

I WONDER WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE?

WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE?

I THINK THERE ARE MANY REPUBLICANS THAT FEEL LIKE YOU DO.

THEY MAY VOTE FOR HIM OR STAY HOME.

THEY FEEL THEIR PERIOD HAS BEEN TAKEN OVER BY SOMEBODY WHO DOES NOT REALLY REFLECT THEM.

>> BUT THERE ARE WOMEN OUT THERE SEE THAT HE'S GETTING RESULTS AND THAT IS WHAT THEY FIND IS IMPORTANT.

NOT THAT -- >> THEY HATE HIS WORDS BUT LOVE HIS ACTIONS.

>> BONNIE: IS IT ALL ABOUT THE TAX CUTS?

>> NO.

THE TAX CUT -- >> HIS ACTIONS HAVE NOT DONE IT.

>> THE BEST THING ABOUT TRUMP HE'S MAY HAVE HAD IT CLEAR THAT ANYBODY COULD RUN FOR THE HIGHEST OFFICE IN THE LAND.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A SCHOLAR.

>> BONNIE: THAT'S IT FOR THIS EDITION.

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