>> A MIDWEST SHOWDOWN FOR SECOND IN COMMAND.

[ MUSIC ] >> WELCOME TO COLUMBUS ON THE RECORD.

MIDWESTERNERS HAVE CORNERED THE MARKET ON PRESIDENTIAL RUNNING MATES.

FIRST IT WAS OHIO'S JD VANCE WHO GOT THE NON-TIPPY FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP'S A VP NOMINEE THEN THIS WEEK MINNESOTA GOVERNOR TIM WALZ WILL SERVE AS VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS RUNNING MATE.

WALZ BRINGS SIMILAR CREDENTIALS TO THE RACE WORKING-CLASS ROOTS, PARTISAN STANCES, THEY BOTH NEIGHBOR CRUCIAL BATTLEGROUND STATES.

GEOGRAPHY THAT DICTATED THESE CHOICES BECAUSE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF THE UPPER MIDWEST THIS ELECTION?

>> I THINK THE VICE PRESIDENT WAS ALWAYS ABOUT GEOGRAPHY BUT IT COULD'VE BEEN FROM THE WEST, IT COULD'VE BEEN FROM THE MIDWEST AND FROM PENNSYLVANIA BECAUSE THAT IS A KEY STATE.

I THINK THE WALZ PICK IS INTERESTING.

HE IS A SALT OF THE EARTH KIND OF GUY, FOOTBALL COACH, 24 YEARS IN THE MILITARY AND THE NATIONAL RESERVE GUARD.

HE HAS A PRETTY PLAINSPOKEN WAY OF TALKING ALMOST HARRY TRUMAN ASK KIND OF WAY OF SPEAKING.

MOST EXCITING FOR ME IS HE IS A MIDDLE-AGED MAN WITH WHITE HAIR AND DRESSES IN A WAY SO WE ARE IN.

YOU KNOW?

>> YOU THINK YOU WOULD'VE BEEN THE RUNNING MATE HAD NOT JD VANCE BEEN THE RUNNING MATE?

HE SORT OF COUNTERS JD VANCE MIDWESTERN ROOTS, WORKING-CLASS, NEAR A BATTLEGROUND STATE.

>> I'M NOT SO SURE.

I DON'T KNOW THE THINKING OF THE DEMOCRATS BUT THE LAST TIME I WAS ON THE SHOW TWO MONTHS MINNESOTA THERE WOULD BE BLANK STARES IN THE ROOM.

AT THE END OF THE DAY THIS APPEASED ONE GROUP AND IT'S THE VOTERS IN MICHIGAN.

EVEN THE GOVERNOR OF MICHIGAN SAID THEY ARE IN TROUBLE WITH VOTERS WITH THE PRO-PALESTINIAN VOTERS IN MICHIGAN.

THE CLEAR ANSWER WOULD'VE BEEN SCHAPIRO IN PENNSYLVANIA.

IT TELLS YOU SCHAPIRO IS YOUR NOMINEE BUT HE WAS JEWISH, YOU CAN IT TAKE IN.

>> HE'S AN EAST COASTER SO YOU WOULD'VE HAD WEST COAST SAN FRANCISCO AT THE TOP, PENNSYLVANIA BUT IT'S PHILADELPHIA.

>> IS A FIRST-TERM GOVERNOR AND DOESN'T HAVE FOREIGN POLICY EXPERIENCE WHERE WALZ HAS THAT.

THERE WERE PROBABLY DIFFERENT CALCULATIONS ON WHY YOU WOULD PICK WALZ OVER SCHAPIRO.

WE HAD PROFESSOR DEVINE ON OUR SHOW THAT HAS WRITTEN TWO BOOKS ABOUT VP PICS AND HE SAYS THE IDEA YOU PICK SOMEBODY TO BRING A SWING STATE LIKE PENNSYLVANIA DOESN'T WORK.

>> HE WON HIS DISTRICT IN 2016 TRUMP ONE THAT DISTRICT REALLY BIG.

HE SHOWED HE COULD SPLIT THE VOTE WHICH DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET BACK TO SINCE DONALD TRUMP ONE IN 2016.

>> I THINK MINNESOTA HAS AN INDEPENDENT STREAK.

IT MAY NOT BE AS PART OF OTHER STATES.

THEY ELECTED JESSE VENTURA AS THE EVAN HER.

I THINK TIM WALZ IS AN INTERESTING PICK.

HARRIS AND BIDEN STEPPING ASIDE HAS INJECTED ENTHUSIASM AMONG THE DEMOCRATS AND NOW THEY HAVE TO REBUILD THAT BLUE WALL AGAIN AND MAKE SURE THEY WIN KEY STATES LIKE MICHIGAN, MINNESOTA, WISCONSIN, ET CETERA.

>> WILL KAMALA HARRIS REGRET NOT PICKING JOSH SHAPIRO?

>> THAT WILL BE A BATTLEGROUND STATE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

INTERESTING PICK EVEN THOUGH HE'S NOT WELL-KNOWN BECAUSE OF THE WAY HE HANDLES HIMSELF QUITE FRANKLY.

HE KIND OF SPEAKS OFF THE CUFF.

HE CAME UP WITH THAT WEIRD LINE WHICH MIGHT BE THE MOST EFFECTIVE I'VE HEARD ABOUT DONALD TRUMP.

IT DOESN'T OFFEND SUPPORTERS BUT AT THE SAME TIME THERE ARE WEIRD THINGS GOING ON THERE.

HE'S JUST A PLAINSPOKEN PERSON THAT CAN RELATE TO A LOT OF THOSE FOLKS AND I THINK AS PEOPLE GET TO KNOW HIM BETTER FROM MY TIME WHEN I WAS IN MICHIGAN I SAW THAT.

AS FAR AS MICHIGAN HE KNOWS THE LATEST POLLS HAVE COME ALL HARRIS I JUST SAW MORNING CONSULT HAD NOT ONLY HER UP, BUT UP IN EVERY SWING STATE RIGHT NOW.

>> THIS MOMENTUM HAS SWUNG A LITTLE BIT BACK AFTER JOE BIDEN LEFT AND KAMALA HARRIS IS THE NEW ENERGY.

NOW THE VP PICK WITH CONVENTIONS COMING UP HOW DOES DONALD TRUMP AND THE PARTY COUNTERACT THAT?

>> WE DO WHAT WE ARE DOING.

AND WALZ IS THE VP PICK.

THE COST OF GROCERIES ARE MORE EXPENSIVE, CAN'T AFFORD A MORTGAGE OR HOME.

NOTHING CHANGED FOR THE LIVES OF MIDDLE-CLASS AMERICA.

STILL BAD OUT THERE.

THAT'S WHAT WE REMIND THE VOTERS.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO SHE PICKED WHO THE NOMINEE IS, IT'S HARD TO LIVE IN AMERICA UNDER THE BIDEN HARRIS ECONOMY.

>> GDP IS HIGHER THAN IT WAS UNDER DONALD TRUMP AND THE STOCK MARKET --JUST THIS PAST WEEK.

>> AT THE END OF THE DAY WHEN ALL OF US GO TO THE GROCERY STORE FOR OUR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES LOOK AT YOUR BILL.

LOOK WHAT IT WAS HONORED DONALD TRUMP.

>> IT HAS SLOWED.

>> MIDWESTERNERS IN THE IMPORTANCE IN THIS RACE OR HOW MUCH OF IMPORTANCE IT HAS AND HOW DOES IT REFLECT IN THE CHOICES YOU THINK?

>> IT WAS A CHOICE TO WITH THE MIDWESTERN GUYS.

A LOT OF IT HAD TO DO WITH THE CHEMISTRY OF HOW THEY INTERACTED WITH THE TOP OF THE TICKET.

>> BOTTOM LINE, TWO MONTHS FROM NOW YOU ARE DEVOTING FOR TIM WALZ OR JD VANCE PROBABLY?

>> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND.

THEY GET A LOT OF ATTENTION.

I HATE TO USE THAT IN THIS ELECTION CYCLE, BUT THE ONLY THING YOUR VP CANDIDATE CAN DO FOR YOU IS HURT YOU.

AS LONG AS NEITHER DOES SOMETHING SPECTACULARLY STUPID I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY WE WILL BE VOTING FOR HARRIS OR TRUMP.

>> DO YOU THINK THESE CANDIDATES PARKED THEMSELVES IN THE MIDWEST?

>> I THINK THEY WILL BE IN ALL THE SWING STATES ONLY.

WE WILL GET TO THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE SENATE RACE.

I DON'T THINK WE WILL SEE MUCH OF THEM HERE.

I DID NOTICE HARRIS HAS BEEN RUNNING NATIONAL BUYS LIKE ON THE OLYMPICS THAT ARE RUNNING IN OHIO.

>> THE RACE IS HEATING UP AS WE ENTER THE DOG DAYS OF AUGUST.

HE'S TRAVELING THE STATE ON HIS DEFEND AMERICA BUS TOUR.

SHERROD BROWN CONTINUES TO CRITICIZE THE PRACTICES AS A CAR DEALER.

THIS WEEK SENATOR BROWN SOLD CNN HE WOULD NOT ATTEND THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION READER THIS MONTH IN CHICAGO.

SINCE BEING ELECTED SENATOR BROWN HAS ONLY LISTED ONE DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION THAT WAS IN 2020.

HE SAID IT WAS BECAUSE OF COVID CONCERNS.

THE BIG PARTY FOR THAT PARTY EVERY FOUR YEARS, A SIGN HE WANTS NOTHING TO DO WITH DEMOCRATS?

>> I THINK HE IS IN A TIGHT RACE.

THERE WAS AN AARP OHIO POLE THAT SHOWED KEYNOTE WEST THAT SHOWED BROWN UP FOUR POINTS OVER MARINO.

THIS WILL BE A TIGHT RACE AND I THINK EMBRACING HARRIS DOESN'T REALLY SERVE HIM WELL.

HE WANTS TO RUN HIS OWN RACE AND MAYBE PICK UP SOME OF THOSE VOTERS.

HE MIGHT VOTE FOR TRUMP BECAUSE HE'S SEEN AS SOMEBODY PRO-WORKER AND MY VOTE FOR SHERROD BROWN AS WELL BECAUSE HE SEEMED SOMEBODY THAT IS PRO-WORKER.

>> I CAN SEE NOT EXPECTING A SPEAKING ROLE THAT WHITE NOT JUST GO IN FOR A DAY OR TWO?

>> A LOT OF CANDIDATES AREN'T.

JACKY ROSEN ISN'T.

THE SENATE CANDIDATE IN MONTANA ISN'T.

YEAH.

BUT, IN THE CASE HE'S BEEN RUNNING HIS OWN RACE ANYWAYS WITH BIDEN NOT BEING HERE.

IT'S REALLY NOT LIKE HE WILL BE APPEARING WITH BIDEN, BIDEN WON'T BE IN THE STATE.

HIS WHOLE GOAL AS YOU HAD SAID IS I'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO PEEL OFF SOME VOTERS THAT MIGHT VOTE FOR TRUMP AND MIGHT VOTE FOR ME BECAUSE THAT'S HAPPENED IN THE PAST AND IT WILL HAPPEN IF HE FOCUSES ON THEIR ISSUES AND NOT >> WHAT DO YOU THINK?

PEOPLE SIT THROUGH THE COMMERCIALS.

IT'S NOT ON DEMAND AS MUCH.

BOTH CANDIDATES WHAT I SAW WERE RUNNING ADS PRETTY HEAVILY DURING THE OLYMPICS.

THE MESSAGING IS MARINO DID BAD THINGS AS A BUSINESS PERSON AND BROWN IS TOO CLOSE TO KAMALA HARRIS.

>> IT'S OHIO SO I CAN'T SPEAK BUT IN OHIO THAT MATTERS.

BROWN DIDN'T EVEN SHOW TO EAST PALESTINE WHEN BIDEN FINALLY CAME TO VISIT THOSE UNFORTUNATE PEOPLE THAT LIVED THERE AFTER WHAT HAPPENED BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY HE CAN SEPARATE HIMSELF GEOGRAPHICALLY AS MUCH AS HE WANTS BUT HE VOTED 84% OF THE TIME WITH KAMALA HARRIS WHEN SHE WAS IN CONGRESS WITH HIM.

THAT WILL BE HIGHLIGHTED BY BERNIE AND HIS TEAM.

AT THE END OF THE DAY WHEN TRUMP WENT OHIO, WHICH IS GOING TO, IF IT'S ANYWHERE BETWEEN EIGHT, 10, 11 POINTS IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR SHERROD TO MAKE THAT UP.

BERNIE IS IN A GREAT POSITION TO RUN A CAMPAIGN SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.

>> IS MENTIONED HE WANTS TO RUN HIS OWN RACE.

CAN HE REALLY DO THAT IN A PRESIDENTIAL YEAR?

HE RAN IN 2012 WHEN BARACK OBAMA WAS FACING MITT ROMNEY.

CAN HE RUN HIS OWN RACE?

>> TECHNICALLY THE ODDS ARE NOT ON HIS SIDE SO WHAT I FOUND FASCINATING IS CNN DID THIS DEEP DIVE ON HOW MANY TIMES A U.S. SENATE CANDIDATE HAS ONE IN A STATE WHERE THE OPPOSITE PARTY WON THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

TRUMP TAKES UP OHIO, THE SENATE GOES FOR BROWN.

THERE'S ONLY THE ONE SENATOR, ONE IN THE LAST SEVERAL DECADES.

HE WOULD BE THE SECOND SENATOR I THINK IN THE LAST 50 OR 60 YEARS TO PULL THIS OFF.

IT IS VERY DIFFICULT AND I AGREE WITH MIKE IF TRUMP CARRIED OHIO BY THREE, FOUR, FIVE AND I CAN SEE SHERROD DOING IT.

IF IT'S SEVEN, EIGHT OR NINE >> YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT BLUE- COLLAR VOTERS POLITICS NUMBERS, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FLIPPING A VOTER SIMILAR TO HOW TRUMP FLIPPED BLUE-COLLAR MALES IN 2016 WHEN YOU GET ONE VOTE THAT WAS FOR TRUMP TO MOVE OVER TO ONE VOTE FOR BROWN IT'S SWING INTO VOTES WHEN IT COMES TO BERNIE MARINO.

IT IS IMPACTFUL, THE FACT THEY HAVE DIFFERENCES AND BERNIE MARINO HAS A COUPLE ISSUES THAT ARE REALLY GOING TO BE PROBLEMATIC.

ONE OF THEM IS THE BUSINESS ASPECT OF IT.

HE'S GOT A BIT OF THAT ROMNEY ASK.

THEY ARE CHASING HIM WITH A BALLOON RIGHT NOW.

I DIDN'T EVEN SEE THAT.

YOU CAN'T, HE'S SO TIGHT AT THE HIP WITH TRUMP AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TRUMP IS GOING TO DO AND THAT'S A PROBLEM.

>> DO YOU EXPECT THEM TO DEBATE?

I HEARD PEOPLE WERE TRYING TO ORGANIZE DEBATES BUT THEY WILL PROBABLY DO IT AT LEAST ONCE RIGHT?

>> I HAVEN'T HEARD WHAT THE STATUS IS.

THE DEBATE REQUIRES ALL KINDS OF BACKDOOR NEGOTIATIONS OVER ALL THE DETAILS AND IT'S VERY ARDUOUS.

>> IS THERE A RISK FOR GAIN MORE THAN THE OTHER SHOULD THEY DEBATE?

>> I GUESS THEY HAVE TO.

>> GIVEN HOW BIDEN PERFORMED ANYTHING HARRIS DOES, SHE'S GOT --YEAH.

BROWN AND MARINO.

I DON'T KNOW TRADITIONALLY THEY MATTER OTHER THAN SOMEBODY MAKES A MISTAKE.

>> BASED ON THE LATEST CAMPAIGN FILING THE GROUP PUSHING THE ANTI-GERRYMANDERING AMENDMENT IS OUT OF MONEY.

IT DOES A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN IT'S IN FINANCIAL TROUBLE.

THE GROUP CITIZENS NOT POLITICIANS WANTS VOTERS TO ALLOW INDEPENDENT GROUPS TO DRAW LEGISLATIVE MAPS THAT ARE NOW DRAWN BY ELECTED LEADERS.

IT HAS RAISED $23 MILLION SINCE JANUARY.

IT HAS SPENT ABOUT $24 MILLION INCLUDING A LOT OF MONEY ON TV ADS THAT HAVE NOT RUN YET.

THERE ARE THREE MONTHS TO GO BEFORE ELECTION DAY.

WHY ALL OF THIS ADVANCE SPENDING?

PERHAPS BECAUSE OF A NEW STATE LAW THAT BANS FOREIGN CONTRIBUTIONS TO ISSUE CAMPAIGNS.

A BILLIONAIRE KNOWN TO BE A DONOR OF A GROUP SUPPORTING REDISTRICTING SO HIS GIFT COULD BE ILLEGAL.

HERE'S THE CATCH, THE LAW DOES NOT GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL AUGUST 31st.

UNTIL THEN, STATE LAW DOES NOT PRECLUDE SUCH DONATIONS.

COMPLICATED BUT TRUE.

>> THE GENEROUS READING HERE IS THAT LOTS OF CAMPAIGNS IN HIS CHEAPER TO BUY FILE AS IN THE SUMMER THAN IT IS IN THE FALL.

I THINK WE HAVE CLOSE TO HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS IN ADS RESERVED FOR THE CAMPAIGN FROM MORENO AND BROWN'S CAMS IT IS NOT UNUSUAL TO BUY A LOT OF ADS YES.

GETTING ALL THOSE OUT OF PURCHASE AHEAD OF AUGUST 31st ALLOWS I THINK 6 MILLION OF THAT DOLLARS CAME FROM THE 1630 FUND.

WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF THAT IS FROM IT.

WE KNOW THE 1630 FUND GETS MONEY FROM THEM.

TRACING ALL OF THAT BACK WOULD BE PART OF THAT NEW LAW.

>> HOW IS IT FOR A CAMPAIGN TO DRAIN ITS ACCOUNT FOR A NOVEMBER ELECTION?

>> IT'S NOT UNCOMMON.

NOT UNCOMMON TO BUY TV TIME WHEN IT'S CHEAPER IN THE SUMMER.

DURING THE ACCOUNT, YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW WHERE YOUR NEXT MONEY IS COMING FROM.

HAVING SAID THAT, THIS REALLY GETS AWAY FROM THE TRUTH WHICH IS THEY DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT REDISTRICTING.

THERE IS A FOUNDATION, THEY HAVE MANY DIFFERENT DONORS THAT GIVE MONEY TO THAT FOUNDATION.

IT ALL GOES INTO THIS ONE FOUNDATIONAL ACCOUNT AND THEY GIVE OUT GRANTS.

IT WOULD BE LIKE SAYING THE $900,000 THEY GAVE PRO-LIFE GROUPS THAT THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH GAVE PRO-LIFE GROUPS YOU WOULD HAVE TO PROVE THAT SOME OF THE MONEY CAME FROM THE VATICAN BANKS NECESSARILY OR WHERE THAT MONEY CAME FROM FROM ALL THE DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT GAVE MONEY.

IT IS SO STICKY AND IT'S GOING TO GET TO BE A PROBLEM FOR BOTH PARTIES OVER TIME.

>> WHERE IS THE MONEY COMPANY OPPONENTS OF THIS?

>> I HAVE NO IDEA.

>> REALISTICALLY, IT DOES NOT HAVE THE SAME PASSION BEHIND IT THAT YOUR FOLKS DID WHEN IT CAME TO TRYING TO DEFEAT THE REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS AMENDMENT.

>> REDISTRICT DOES NOT HAVE THE SAME PASSION FOR THE SAME ORGANIZATION BEHIND IT.

NOT MAKING AS IT STANDS NOW.

>> IF THIS PASSES I HOPE IT DOESN'T I WILL VOTE NO.

I WOULD LOVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT IF WE GET A CHANCE.

LOOK AT MICHIGAN.

WE ARE NOT THE SAME STATE.

THERE'S ONLY WAYS YOU CAN DRAW A MAP.

WE HAD A MAP THAT JUST PASSED.

THE VOTERS FIVE, SIX YEARS AGO BY 70% NOT ONCE BUT TWICE CHANGED IT TO THIS CURRENT SYSTEM NOW.

WE HAVE OUR INITIATIVE AND THEY BOTH PASSED A 70% VOTE AND WE HAD A BIPARTISAN MAP.

THERE IS NO GERRYMANDERING WHEN YOU HAVE A BIPARTISAN MAP.

>> IT'S COMPLICATED.

>> WHEN THEY COME TOGETHER AND VOTE UNANIMOUSLY ON A MAP THAT'S GERRYMANDERING?

MICHAEL.

>> AND IF IT'S FROM GERRYMANDERING THEY RUN THE DISTRICTS.

THERE IS AN INCENTIVE FOR DEMOCRATS TO PICK A MAP.

>> WHAT WILL HAPPEN THEN FEDERAL COURT WITH THE CITIZENS MAP UP THERE VIOLATED THE CIVIL RIGHTS.

AFRICAN-AMERICANS ARE GOING TO GO AWAY BECAUSE YOU'LL HAVE MORE AND UPPER ARLINGTON AND LESS IN MANY WAYS TO DRAW MAP.

OKAY.

THEY JUST DROP THE MAP.

THEY VIOLATED THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET ELECTED.

>> YES THE PROBLEM IS BOTH SIDES WILL HAVE MUCH MORE COMPETITIVE RACES.

WHO WINS IN THE END?

THE PEOPLE IN OHIO BECAUSE THERE AREN'T GOING TO BE THE 60% REPUBLICAN, 60% DEMOCRATIC THINGS.

WILL THERE BE COURTS THAT COME IN AND HAVE TO ARE BUT SOME OF THESE ISSUES?

THEY WILL.

ARE THERE MINORITY SEATS AND PLENTY IN MICHIGAN?

THERE ARE PLENTY IN THE LEGISLATURE IN MICHIGAN, PLENTY IN CONGRESS TWO.

BOTH PARTIES BY THE WAY.

>> MICHIGAN FOR 30 YEARS REPUBLICANS HAD A SUPER MAJORITY LEGISLATURE BECAUSE THEY CONTROLLED MAPMAKING BUT ON THE STATEWIDE IT WAS DEMOCRAT TRADITIONALLY.

FOR THE MOST PART.

>> JOHN ENGLER WOULD PROBABLY DISAGREE.

>> REPUBLICANS HAD A SUPER MAJORITY IN THE LEGISLATURE.

YEAH.

BOTTOM LINE, FINANCE.

THERE'S ALWAYS A WAY AROUND THEM.

>> YES.

IT'S INTERESTING HE SAID HOW MANY DRAIN THEIR ACCOUNT.

IT IS A LITTLE UNUSUAL HOWEVER THE BULK OF WHAT YOU SAID IN THE CAMPAIGN IS SET ON TV.

THEY RESERVE $16.8 MILLION IN TV TIME THAT HAS YET TO AIR.

I THINK THEY WILL CONTINUE TO RAISE MONEY, THEY WILL FIND MONEY TO PAY THEIR STAFF AND MAILERS ET CETERA.

>> AND YOU THINK THE CAMPAIGN WILL TAKE SHAPE?

MIKE DeWINE CAME OUT LAST WEEK.

>> STATE AUDITOR I BELIEVE SECRETARY OF STATE.

I WONDER WHO BUYS THE ADS FOR WHAT'S INTERESTING IS EVERYBODY YOUR MENTIONING ARE ALL INCUMBENT REPUBLICANS.

THEY'RE THE ONES OPPOSED TO THIS AND I THINK IF WE DO SEE ADS BEING PURCHASED I WONDER IF IT'S GOING TO COME FROM DARK MONEY GROUPS THAT WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHO'S BEHIND THEM.

>> JUST LIKE 1630.

WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM.

MONEY FROM VIRGINIA, WASHINGTON, D.C., MASSACHUSETTS, SWITZERLAND.

IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING.

THE ONLY WAY I THINK WITHOUT THE INFUSION OF CASH IS FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP, JD VANCE TO COME OUT AND PUBLICLY TALK ABOUT THIS LEADING UP TO NOVEMBER.

>> FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY OHIO WAS OVER THE AGE OF 21 CAN WALK INTO A STORE AND BUY MARIJUANA FOR NO REASON.

NO MEDICAL CARD REQUIRED.

CLOSE TO 100 DISPENSARIES OPENED THEIR DOORS TO ADULTS THIS WEEK AS MARIJUANA FOR FUN SALES BEGAN.

THERE WERE LINES, MODEST ONES.

PRICES WERE A BIT HIGH SAY THOSE IN THE KNOW.

THAT IS LIKELY DUE TO SUPPLY CONSTRAINTS.

IT'S EARLY.

IT SEEMS TO HAVE GONE OFF WITHOUT A HITCH AND THE WORLD CONTINUES TO SPIN.

WILL IT CONTINUE TO SPEND A YEAR FROM NOW, 10 YEARS FROM NOW WHEN THIS IS HERE?

>> WE WILL SEE IF THE BUSINESSES GO UP IN SMOKE.

YEAH.

IT'S CHEAPER APPARENTLY ACCORDING TO THE ARTICLES TO BUY IN MICHIGAN.

I'M SURE ON THE STREET IS CHEAPER.

THE VOTERS SPOKE AND THEY WANTED THIS AND I WILL RESPECT THE DECISION OF THE VOTERS.

NOW WE HAVE IS LEGAL I'M SURE OF FEW PEOPLE A MONTH AGO WERE BUYING IT.

IN THE ARTICLES WE SAW LEADING UP TO OUR SHOW A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE SAYING THIS IS EXPENSIVE.

>> MICHIGAN WAS HIGH AND CAME DOWN.

WE WILL SEE.

IT'S A BUSINESS.

HAVE TO HAVE CUSTOMERS, SELL YOUR PRODUCT LIKE ANY BUSINESS AND WE WILL SEE IF IT WORKS.

>> YOU ARE IN MICHIGAN WHEN THIS WAS LEGALIZED.

>> A BIG YAWN.

CONSUMERS OF CANNABIS HAVE BEEN USING IT ANYWAYS SO NOW IT'S LEGAL SO THEY CAN GO THERE AND DO IT.

THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE INFREQUENT LIKE IF YOU'RE NOT REALLY A GAMBLER YOU MIGHT GO TO THE CASINO ONCE A YEAR AND DO IT LIFE GOES ON.

I'M NOT SURE MANY OHIOANS EVEN NOTICED OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT THE MEDIA IS DOING ARTICLES ABOUT IT TO BE HONEST.

>> OTHER STATES HAVE SEEN IT YEARS AGO.

>> I WAS LATE TO THE PARTY ON THIS BEHIND OTHER STATES THAT ADOPTED IT EARLIER.

THERE WERE SOME LINES, NOTHING CRAZY LIKE FREE DONUTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

A COUPLE PEOPLE I THINK SOMEBODY SLEPT IN THEIR CAR OVERNIGHT SO THEY CAN BE THE FIRST ONE IN LINE.

THERE WAS A CELEBRATORY AIR AT THESE PLACES.

>> CUT THE RIBBON AT THE PLACE.

A BIG SUPPORTER OF LEGAL MARIJUANA.

WILL STATE LAWMAKERS DO ANYTHING ELSE?

>> THAT'S A HARD ONE.

NOW THAT IT'S GETTING OFF THE GROUND I THINK IT WOULD BE RESPONSIVE IF THEY WERE ISSUES.

I KNOW MIKE DeWINE HAS WANTED MORE CONCRETE AROUND ADVERTISING AMOUNTS, SMOKING ON THE STREETS, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT TO EIGHT WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT LIKE A STATION.

THE TROUBLING THING FOR THE MOST PART HAS BEEN THEY TRIED TO PUT ALL OF THAT INTO A SINGLE PIECE OF LEGISLATION.

BREAKING IT APART MAY BE THE MORE REALISTIC WAY TO RATHER THAN TO TRY TO DO ALL MARIJUANA AND TO EIGHT IN ONE PACKAGE.

>> CIGARETTE TAXES GO UP A LOT.

IT'S 10% NOW I BELIEVE.

>> I DON'T THINK LEGISLATURE WILL COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON THAT BASED ON WHAT THE VOTERS DECIDED BUT I AGREE WITH ANNA.

WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT IN OUR PARKS AROUND OUR SCHOOLS.

WE CAN DO THINGS THAT ARE COMMON SENSE AND STILL RESPECT THE WILL OF THE VOTERS AND I HOPE THAT'S WHAT LEGISLATION DOES.

>> WE CAN HAVE GUNS IN PARKS AND SCHOOLS?

>> WE CAN'T HAVE -- >> WE SHOULD HAVE GUNS EITHER.

>> YEAH.

>> WALK AROUND AND SPELL IT.

>> THAT GETS TO THE POINT OF LOCAL CONTROL.

SOME COMMUNITIES HAVE SAID NO SALES IN OUR COMMUNITY.

WILL WE SEE MORE OF THOSE?

OR WILL THEY SAY IT'S NOT THAT BAD?

>> YOU GRADUALLY SEE MORE AND MORE COMMUNITIES AND ASKED THAT FOR DIFFERENT REASONS.

I THINK IT HAD TO DO WITH EITHER TAX MONEY OR THEY WERE OPTING OUT OF IT BECAUSE OF OTHER ISSUES THAT WERE MORE POLITICAL ON THEIR COUNCILS.

>> YOU WILL SEE THE RICH WHITE SUBURBS EMBRACING IT.

NEW ALBANY JUST BANDIT.

SO YOU'LL SEE IN THE BIG CITY.

>> ANY DIFFERENT THAN A LIQUOR STORE AT SOME POINT?

>> NOT NOW.

MAYBE IN THE FUTURE.

>> WE HAVE A LOT OF STADIUMS.

>> IT WENT ON SALE TUESDAY, THE TAX HOLIDAY ENDED ON WEDNESDAY.

IT WASN'T AFFECTED BY THE SALES TAX HOLIDAY.

>> IT WAS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THE TAX.

IT WAS NOT ALLOWED.

YEAH.

>> ARE FINAL OFF THE RECORD IS UP NOW.

YOU'RE UP FIRST.

>> IT'S TIME FOR POLITICAL CONSULTANTS AS WELL AS CANDIDATES I KNOW IN THE AGE OF TRUMP YOU CAN SAY ANYTHING YOU WANT BUT I HEARD A REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE SAY HE WAS GOING TO UNLEASH A CAN OF ON HIS OPPONENT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS OR WHAT A CAN OF IT IS BUT IT'S ENOUGH.

LET'S TALK ABOUT ISSUES.

>> THIS WEEK NUMEROUS SCHOOL ANNOUNCED THEIR CELL PHONE POLICY ILLUMINATING AND RESTRICTING THANK YOU TO THOSE SCHOOL BOARDS AND ADMINISTRATORS.

I WILL WHACK MY FINGER AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT ARE SLOW WALKING THIS WHERE MY DAUGHTER AND SON GO.

EVERY SCHOOL NEEDS TO ADOPT THIS POLICY.

THEY LEAD TO BULLYING AND SO MANY OTHER PROBLEMS.

>> WE ARE LAUNCHING THE THIRD SEASON OF UNTANGLED.

IT STARTS MONDAY AUGUST 26 AND IT'LL BE ALL ABOUT THE REDISTRICTING AMENDMENT AND QUICK TEASER IF YOU THINK RIGHT NOW IS VICIOUS, IN 1842 THE WHIG PARTY THAT PRECEDED THE REPUBLICAN PARTY RESIGNED FROM THE LEGISLATURE AND A QUORUM TO STOP.

IT WAS AT MASS RESIGNATION BAD.

>> I WAS GOING TO NOTE THAT THIS WEEKEND IS THE 50th ANNIVERSARY OF THE RESIGNATION OF RICHARD NIXON.

I WAS REMEMBERING ABOUT HOW MY MOM MADE A SPECIAL BREAKFAST THAT MORNING OF EGGS BENEDICT SO I KNEW IT WAS BIG NEWS.

>> THAT'S ALSO THE 30th ANNIVERSARY OF THE SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION.

IF YOU'RE A FAN OF THAT MOVIE YOU KNOW IT WAS IN MANSFIELD.

IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO THAT PRISON AND YOU LIKE THE MOVIE CHECK IT OUT.

THERE MIGHT BE A BIG CROWD WITH THE CELEBRATION BUT IT'S WORTH THE TRIP UP TO SEE WHERE THE FILM WAS SHOT.

IT'S A GREAT TRIBUTE TO NORTHERN CENTRAL OHIO.

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