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Migrants from Nicaragua, Venezuela Make a Home in Whitewater
Clip: Season 2200 Episode 2229 | 5m 43sVideo has Closed Captions
Migrants have made their way to Whitewater, drawn by hopes and facing legal limbo.
Upwards of a thousand migrants from two countries in Latin America have made their way to a southern Wisconsin college town, drawn by hopes of safety and facing legal limbo in their search for work.
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Migrants from Nicaragua, Venezuela Make a Home in Whitewater
Clip: Season 2200 Episode 2229 | 5m 43sVideo has Closed Captions
Upwards of a thousand migrants from two countries in Latin America have made their way to a southern Wisconsin college town, drawn by hopes of safety and facing legal limbo in their search for work.
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>> IN OTHER NEWS, WHITEWATER MADE NATIONAL HEADLINES LAST MONTH AFTER A BREITBART NEWS STORY CLAIMED A THOUSAND MIGRANTS HAD BEEN DROPPED ON THE CITY.
BUT OFFICIALS SAY THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS MUCH MORE COMPLICATED.
DENZIN, HAS MORE.
>> OUR CASE HERE IN WHITEWATER DENZIN, HAS MORE.
>> OUR CASE HERE IN WHITEWATER >> OUR CASE HERE IN WHITEWATER >> I STARTED NOTICING THE WAY IS VERY UNIQUE.
>> I STARTED NOTICING THE WAY THE MIGRANTS PROBABLY -- IT WAS DURING THE PANDEMIC.
THE MIGRANTS PROBABLY -- IT WAS DURING THE PANDEMIC.
>> WHITE IMMIGRANTS IMMIGRATE TO PLACES IS BECAUSE AS HUMANS, WE >> WHITE IMMIGRANTS IMMIGRATE TO PLACES IS BECAUSE AS HUMANS, WE ARE LOOKING FOR A BETTER LIFE.
>> Reporter: WHITEWATER HAS ARE LOOKING FOR A BETTER LIFE.
>> Reporter: WHITEWATER HAS SEEN A WAVE OF MIGRATION FROM THE SOUTHERN BORDER WITH MEXICO SEEN A WAVE OF MIGRATION FROM THE SOUTHERN BORDER WITH MEXICO OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS, BUT THIS CASE IS NOT LIKE RECENT OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS, BUT THIS CASE IS NOT LIKE RECENT HEADLINES WHERE IMMIGRANTS ARE BEING CHARTERED TO NORTHERN HEADLINES WHERE IMMIGRANTS ARE BEING CHARTERED TO NORTHERN COMMUNITIES LIKE CHICAGO.
>> I'VE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE ASK, COMMUNITIES LIKE CHICAGO.
>> I'VE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE ASK, COLLEGE EXPERIENCE, TO BE ABLE MAINTAINING THE WHOLE KIND OF OKAY, WHERE ARE THE BUSES DROPPING PEOPLE OFF.
OKAY, WHERE ARE THE BUSES DROPPING PEOPLE OFF.
THAT'S NOT HAPPENING HERE.
>> IT WAS LIKE 50 AT FIRST AND THAT'S NOT HAPPENING HERE.
>> IT WAS LIKE 50 AT FIRST AND THEN IT WAS LIKE ANOTHER 50 AND SO IT WASN'T LIKE A MASSIVE THEN IT WAS LIKE ANOTHER 50 AND SO IT WASN'T LIKE A MASSIVE SO IT WASN'T LIKE A MASSIVE >> BUT NOW CITY OFFICIALS RUSH.
>> BUT NOW CITY OFFICIALS SUSPECT THAT THERE ARE ABOUT 800 TO A THOUSAND MIGRANTS FROM SUSPECT THAT THERE ARE ABOUT 800 TO A THOUSAND MIGRANTS FROM NICARAGUA AND VENEZUELA IN WHITEWATER.
NICARAGUA AND VENEZUELA IN WHITEWATER.
CITY.
THE 2020 CENSUS INDICATED THAT CITY.
THE 2020 CENSUS INDICATED THAT ABOUT 15,000 PEOPLE LIVE THERE.
NEARLY 8 TO 10,000 OF THOSE ARE ABOUT 15,000 PEOPLE LIVE THERE.
NEARLY 8 TO 10,000 OF THOSE ARE STUDENTS AT THE UNIVERSITY.
>> THE EARLIEST WE REALLY STUDENTS AT THE UNIVERSITY.
>> THE EARLIEST WE REALLY NOTICED IT WAS, I WOULD SAY, EARLY 2022.
NOTICED IT WAS, I WOULD SAY, EARLY 2022.
>> Reporter: DAN MEYER IS THE CHIEF OF POLICE FOR THE CITY OF >> Reporter: DAN MEYER IS THE CHIEF OF POLICE FOR THE CITY OF WHITEWATER.
>> WE HAD A FAMILY THAT WAS WHITEWATER.
>> WE HAD A FAMILY THAT WAS FOUND IN A 10X10 SHED DURING THE WINTERTIME, SO JANUARY OF 2022, FOUND IN A 10X10 SHED DURING THE WINTERTIME, SO JANUARY OF 2022, SO VERY COLD TEMPERATURES.
>> Reporter: HE SAYS THAT SO VERY COLD TEMPERATURES.
>> Reporter: HE SAYS THAT >> Reporter: HE SAYS THAT MANY OF THE MIGRANTS LIKELY HAD BEFORE THEY GOT TO WISCONSIN, MANY OF THE MIGRANTS LIKELY HAD CONTACT WITH BORDER PATROL.
>> THE WAY THE BORDER POLICIES CONTACT WITH BORDER PATROL.
>> THE WAY THE BORDER POLICIES WORK CURRENTLY IS THAT WHEN WORK CURRENTLY IS THAT WHEN WORK CURRENTLY IS THAT WHEN SOMEONE CROSSES, CUSTOMS IDENTIFIES THEM AND ASKS THEM IF THERE IS A SPONSOR FAMILY THAT IDENTIFIES THEM AND ASKS THEM IF THERE IS A SPONSOR FAMILY THAT CAN TAKE THEM IN.
SO IF SOMEBODY IS ABLE TO CAN TAKE THEM IN.
SO IF SOMEBODY IS ABLE TO IDENTIFY THAT SPONSOR FAMILY AND THEY CAN CONFIRM THAT, THEY'RE IDENTIFY THAT SPONSOR FAMILY AND THEY CAN CONFIRM THAT, THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY PROVIDED TRANSPORTATION TO THAT SPONSOR ESSENTIALLY PROVIDED TRANSPORTATION TO THAT SPONSOR FAMILY.
FAMILY.
FAMILY.
THE U.S., THEY'RE TECHNICALLY IN DEPORTATION PROCEEDINGS, BUT WITH A SPONSOR FAMILY, THEY'RE DEPORTATION PROCEEDINGS, BUT WITH A SPONSOR FAMILY, THEY'RE RELEASED UNTIL THEIR FIRST COURT DATE.
RELEASED UNTIL THEIR FIRST COURT DATE.
SEVERAL YEARS IN THE FUTURE DUE TO A HUGE BACKLOG OF CASES.
SEVERAL YEARS IN THE FUTURE DUE TO A HUGE BACKLOG OF CASES.
THEY CAN THEN SPONSOR OTHER FAMILIES THAT THEY KNOW.
THEY CAN THEN SPONSOR OTHER FAMILIES THAT THEY KNOW.
THE RESULT IS A PYRAMID EFFECT WHERE MANY FAMILIES FROM A SMALL THE RESULT IS A PYRAMID EFFECT THE RESULT IS A PYRAMID EFFECT AREA IN CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA HAVE COME TO WHITEWATER.
AREA IN CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA HAVE COME TO WHITEWATER.
>> BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO GET OUT OF REALLY UNSAFE SITUATIONS >> BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO GET OUT OF REALLY UNSAFE SITUATIONS AND THERE'S WORK TO BE HAD.
THERE'S SPICE FACTORIES, SOD AND THERE'S WORK TO BE HAD.
THERE'S SPICE FACTORIES, SOD THERE'S SPICE FACTORIES, SOD >> Reporter: BRIENNE IS A FARMS, CHICKEN FARMS.
>> Reporter: BRIENNE IS A >> Reporter: BRIENNE IS A MEMBER OF THE WHITEWATER MEMBER OF THE WHITEWATER COUNCIL.
NICARAGUA AND VENEZUELA ARE IN VIOLENT UPHEAVAL, DRIVING THOSE NICARAGUA AND VENEZUELA ARE IN VIOLENT UPHEAVAL, DRIVING THOSE PEOPLE INTO AMERICA.
>> WHAT THEY WERE MOST CONCERNED PEOPLE INTO AMERICA.
>> WHAT THEY WERE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT IS IF THEY WALK DOWN THE STREET, THEY HAD TO HAVE A STACK ABOUT IS IF THEY WALK DOWN THE STREET, THEY HAD TO HAVE A STACK OF CASH IN THEIR POCKETS BECAUSE THEY WERE ALWAYS HAVING TO PAY OF CASH IN THEIR POCKETS BECAUSE THEY WERE ALWAYS HAVING TO PAY SOMEBODY OFF TO STAY SAFE.
>> Reporter: THEIR LEGAL LIMBO SOMEBODY OFF TO STAY SAFE.
>> Reporter: THEIR LEGAL LIMBO SOMEBODY OFF TO STAY SAFE.
>> Reporter: THEIR LEGAL LIMBO MAKES LIFE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT.
>> AND MOST OF THEM ARE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO WORK.
CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO WORK.
>> Reporter: BROWN HAS TALKED TO MANY MIGRANTS WHO ARE NOT >> Reporter: BROWN HAS TALKED TO MANY MIGRANTS WHO ARE NOT ALLOWED TO WORK FOR THE FIRST HUNDRED DAYS THAT THEY ARE IN ALLOWED TO WORK FOR THE FIRST HUNDRED DAYS THAT THEY ARE IN HUNDRED DAYS THAT THEY ARE IN ARE FOLLOWING THE RULES AND ONLY AMERICA.
ARE FOLLOWING THE RULES AND ONLY ONE PERSON IS WORKING AND EVERYBODY ELSE IS NOT.
ONE PERSON IS WORKING AND EVERYBODY ELSE IS NOT.
>> WE ARE GOING TO WORK TO MAKE MONEY AND TO HELP OUR FAMILIES.
>> WE ARE GOING TO WORK TO MAKE MONEY AND TO HELP OUR FAMILIES.
>> JORGE IS AN IMMIGRANT ADVOCATE AND A FIRST GENERATION >> JORGE IS AN IMMIGRANT ADVOCATE AND A FIRST GENERATION IMMIGRANT FROM MEXICO.
HE HAS LIVED IN WHITEWATER FOR IMMIGRANT FROM MEXICO.
HE HAS LIVED IN WHITEWATER FOR NEARLY 30 YEARS.
>> I LIKE TO PROMOTE EDUCATION.
NEARLY 30 YEARS.
>> I LIKE TO PROMOTE EDUCATION.
I LIKE TO HELP OTHERS HELP SPEAK ENGLISH.
I LIKE TO HELP OTHERS HELP SPEAK ENGLISH.
I LIKE TO HELP OTHERS HELP SPEAK IS AVAILABLE HERE IN WHITEWATER FACE NUMEROUS CHALLENGES WHEN THEY GET TO WISCONSIN: GETTING A FACE NUMEROUS CHALLENGES WHEN THEY GET TO WISCONSIN: GETTING A JOB, SPEAKING THE LANGUAGE, AND GETTING TRANSPORTATION IS ALL JOB, SPEAKING THE LANGUAGE, AND GETTING TRANSPORTATION IS ALL TOP OF MIND.
>> I KNOW HOW IT FEELS TO BE IN TOP OF MIND.
>> I KNOW HOW IT FEELS TO BE IN THIS COUNTRY AND NOT KNOWING THE LANGUAGE.
THIS COUNTRY AND NOT KNOWING THE LANGUAGE.
RURAL FOLKS WANT TO STAY WHERE TO GRAPPLE WITH.
IT IS HARD.
EVERY SINGLE HUMAN HAS A RIGHT EVERY SINGLE HUMAN HAS A RIGHT TO SUCCEED, WHATEVER YOU ARE, EVERY SINGLE HUMAN HAS A RIGHT TO SUCCEED, WHATEVER YOU ARE, YOU HAVE THAT RIGHT.
>> Reporter: BUT FINDING A JOB YOU HAVE THAT RIGHT.
>> Reporter: BUT FINDING A JOB IN RURAL WISCONSIN REQUIRES A CAR, AND IN WISCONSIN, IN RURAL WISCONSIN REQUIRES A CAR, AND IN WISCONSIN, CAR, AND IN WISCONSIN, ALLOWED TO EARN A DRIVER'S UNDOCUMENTED MIGRANTS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO EARN A DRIVER'S LICENSE.
TRANSPORTATION.
LICENSE.
TRANSPORTATION.
HAVE IS THE TAXI, THE TAXI ONLY IS AVAILABLE HERE IN WHITEWATER FROM 7:30 IN THE MORNING UNTIL 5:00.
FROM 7:30 IN THE MORNING UNTIL 5:00.
ISSUE.
PEOPLE ESPECIALLY DRIVING IN ISSUE.
PEOPLE ESPECIALLY DRIVING IN SNOW FOR THE FIRST TIME, THAT IS NOT A GOOD SITUATION.
SNOW FOR THE FIRST TIME, THAT IS NOT A GOOD SITUATION.
>> IT'S SAFER FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE DRIVER'S LICENSES.
>> IT'S SAFER FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE DRIVER'S LICENSES.
LANGUAGE.
TEST TO MAKE SURE THEY CAN CLASSES, THEY HAVE TO TAKE A TEST TO MAKE SURE THEY CAN DRIVE, THEY HAVE TO HAVE INSURANCE.
DRIVE, THEY HAVE TO HAVE INSURANCE.
YEARS, BUT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I DIDN'T LEARN TO DRIVE YEARS, BUT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I DIDN'T LEARN TO DRIVE UNTIL I CAME TO THE UNITED STATES.
UNTIL I CAME TO THE UNITED STATES.
UNTIL I CAME TO THE UNITED >> I THINK WE HAVE TO LEARN HOW I LEARNED WHAT THE YELLOW LINE MEANS, I LEARNED WHAT THE WHITE I LEARNED WHAT THE YELLOW LINE MEANS, I LEARNED WHAT THE WHITE LINE MEANS, I KNOW WHAT THE BROKEN LINE MEANS.
LINE MEANS, I KNOW WHAT THE BROKEN LINE MEANS.
I LEARNED HOW I CAN PASS A CAR.
I DID NOT KNOW THAT IN MY I LEARNED HOW I CAN PASS A CAR.
I DID NOT KNOW THAT IN MY COUNTRY.
HERE AND TAKE ALL OF THE COUNTRY.
HERE AND TAKE ALL OF THE TESTING, THE WRITTEN TEST, PHYSICALLY DO THE DRIVING TEST TESTING, THE WRITTEN TEST, PHYSICALLY DO THE DRIVING TEST SO THAT THEY ARE SAFER AS A DRIVER, I'M ALL FOR THAT.
SO THAT THEY ARE SAFER AS A DRIVER, I'M ALL FOR THAT.
MAINTAINING THE WHOLE KIND OF DOESN'T IT MAKE SENSE TO >> NEARLY 20 STATES ALREADY FOR THE CAMPUSES THAT ARE >> NEARLY 20 STATES ALREADY ALLOW UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS TO >> NEARLY 20 STATES ALREADY PROBLEM IS REALLY LOW ALLOW UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS TO INCLUDING ILLINOIS.
DOESN'T IT MAKE SENSE TO UNIVERSITY SYSTEM?
>> I THINK THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY REALLY NEED TO LOOK >> IT MAY MAKE SENSE IF THERE'S NOT A WILLINGNESS TO INVEST IN HARDER AT IN OUR LEGISLATURE, IS JUST GIVING THOSE RIGHTS BACK SO THAT EVERYBODY IS SAFER.
>> ALONG WITH DRIVER'S LICENSES, >> IT MAY MAKE SENSE IF THERE'S STATE LEVEL, YES, IT CAN BE AN >> IT MAY MAKE SENSE IF THERE'S BUDGETS.
CITY OFFICIALS SAY MORE NEEDS TO BE DONE TO HELP WHITEWATER'S TO HELP EACH OTHER.
I THINK WE HAVE TO LEARN THAT WE TO GRAPPLE WITH.
ARE WE WILLING TO FUND PLACES ARE HUMANS, WE ARE IMMIGRANTS, AND WE HAVE FEELINGS.
>> FOR "HERE AND NOW," I'M >> FOR "HERE AND NOW," I'M
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