(MUSIC) >> Mike Braun exes move for governor.

The Senate approves a same-sex marriage measure.

Plus, abortion polymers and more.

From the television studios are WFYI, as Indiana Week In Review for the week ending December 2, 21 two.

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Should make this week, Indiana US Senator filed paperwork with the state to and for governor in 24.

--2022.

Brown is in his first term in the U.S. Senate.

Out of this, he was a legislator for three years and served for a decade on a scoreboard.

The races an open one in 24, pulled a goal scientist Andrew down south on leading a safe Southsea and was likely to be a primary seems like an odd move, but given Brian's profile it is a likely step.

-- Brauns when you are a senator you are 100 in not the boss, so this is his chest to return back to a hierarchy.

>> Brown will make an announcement officially about his candidacy very soon -- Braun >> Democrat Ann DeLaney, Republican Chris Mitchell.

Those of Indiana Lawmakers Jon Schwantes, and Niki Kelly of the Indiana Capital Chronicle.

Chris is on >> It is a hard question, we do not expect three or four more people to throw their hats in the ring.

But given the individuals they are, I think he has to.

District we offer name idea along, I don't for Wayne, I have talking to a lot of officials from that area and he has done a lot of good work up there -- talked.

When you look at Senator Brown, in 2018 he ran a very competitive centre race where he defeated, in terms of Indiana popular senator, and not just that but all the fans that were not there or ID and things.

I think this could pay a lot of dividends in 20 why --Braun.

For I'm interested in the assets for 24.

Of course we have seen Mike Braun donate thousands of dollars into his campaign in 2018, so this creates barriers for others, saying that if you want to play you have to bring the same assets.

>> For the frontrunner, we are not sure who will get in.

But to Chris's .2, Mike Braun said recently he does not want to sell wind in the primary this time around.

But we know that he can.

It is that going to be a very poor some who otherwise would be in this race?

>> I mean if you have Suzanne Crouch and three guys, I put my money on Suzanne Crouch.

Even in the Republican Party, if they ever get past the glass ceiling on women, this would be the time because she is a popular governor and she has at least as much recognition as he does.

I don't I mean he is giving up the sexy obviously.

Of course he has not done anything in Washington so I guess it does not matter and that point of view.

He is an election denier.

He voted against the very popular program in the fire for Urdu and chips which means the paint jobs for Indiana.

-- big paying jobs for Indiana.

I don't know, I think U-boats against things that are popular.

For example, is he going to say there should be an absolute down on abortions in Indiana?

Is he going to propose a ban again on a marriage equality?

Of these questions he will have to answer come back and running again for governor.

He could have.

These, and upper of them before coming, but he is not going to do that now.

>> He did not just be a popular US Senator, he also got to the primary beading to others, And master.

-- Messer.

No one has ever accused Todd of being that, and so Mike has found this line in the middle to say, "I'm not an outsider ."

He was running a little bit of the Donald Trump playbook in that sense.

You cannot do this again if you just spent six years in Washington DC, can you?

>> Now, and I think he will need to show some highlights for a record of what he did in the last six years.

In addition to this, he needs some goes for the future -- No, in my history covering this, no one has proposals for what they want to do when they become governor.

I am early hoping we have some actual concrete action as we get into 23 that candidates start to talk about.

>> We have heard of other cadets potentially throwing their hats in the ring, I have mentioned Crouch, and Todd repeater potentially.

Todd Daniels has not said an absolute no, but I will go back to the first question I asked.

Even with all these other names, is Mike Braun given the pocketbook the frontrunner?

>> I would think someone who has an incumbent US Senator would have to be given the edge.

In terms of fundraising not just in Indiana, but this opened deep pocketed funders throughout the country.

And I presume that he could pull those strings and get dollars from those groups of individuals.

That is a significant factor!

Especially when you are younger someone like Eric Dowden, who has a sizeable chunk of change going into this.

I think Dowden was hoping that he could scare away people, but is hard to scare away someone who also has deep pockets and access to more.

>> Odin has more than two on hand -- Eric Dowden >> But money went.

And we understand the shy Jay of trying to have big dollars.

I guess the point is, the more that people get into this, the less predictable it becomes.

If you had one or two candidates, maybe three, then you could go to Vegas in place but with some sense that you will come out ahead.

If you get five, six, seven candidates, all of a sudden things start to splutter.

>> This is me of the U.S. Senate race which should be interesting.

I know you wanted to say that -- something on this?

>> We note the deep pockets of Eric and Braddon.

You could argue that an crutch has the best fundraiser out of all three of them.

>> To distinguish yourself out of a pack of suits >> With a record of giving ulcers you -- giving >> Time now for viewer feedback for stoppage week, we pose a nonscientific viewer poor question.

The question was is Mike Braun the frontrunner to be the next Republican governor?

Either yes or B now.

-- B, no?

If you'd like to take part in this poll, go to wfyi.org/iwir >> The U.S. Senate this week passed the respect marriage act.

Indiana Senator split, Todd Young voted in favour, Mike Braun opposed it.

>> Same-sex marriage is currently legal in many states only because of a 20 is currently legal in many states only because of a 2015 US Supreme Court ruling -- tooth - try 15, the respect for marriage act ensures that the federal government was still recognised same-sex merge even if the Supreme Court takes away the right, and it would force since we are same-sex merge would be illegal to recognise marriages that are performed elsewhere.

In a statement, Todd Young says the bill treats both same-sex couples and those who oppose same-sex couples with the can the address bar.

Mike Braun's office did not respond to comments.

>> Marriage rights so hang on a panel of judges.

Should they?

Should Mac I don't think so.

It helps from the fullface credit product.

That part is good.

But when you have a Supreme Court has put go and as trancelike as that Supreme Court is, then there is no such president -- Trump like and as soon as a state passes a restriction on same-sex marriage, this can happen, it could even happen here in Indiana, once this passes they will overturn it.

Just like they did with Roe v. Wade, and we will go right back to riding the cultural worse because Republicans cannot stop themselves!

They cannot stop themselves.

>> In terms of the votes we have seen on this, is this kind of vote Exactly why Todd Young just one the real action so easily?

>> I think you can argue this, huge basis of his campaign he just said was, "look at me.

I just brought the Secretary of State to Indiana and took photos with him."

And you know, the whole nine yards.

I think the conversation around this bill is strictly ideological.

I think the side that is offset with the passage of the -- upset with the passage of it, I think it is just so ideological that you are voting against what they believe in.

I think Mike Braun did a good job in his editorial he has, contextually bring it back to the context of the bill, that this will really not impact anything.

Going back to as point, we are still protecting Civil Liberties, but politics is a crazy game -- An's point.

But with that in six years, and the pace you are saying, this could be a memory.

>> I want to focus on Todd Young for one more second John.

Before the election, I got to sit down with him for election like -- to talk like many dead.

He said first this is a distraction, no one is trying to overturn same-sex marriage rights, which is untrue.

Then he said, "I don't know the federal government should be emerging in all ."

So at this point he think that should just be a religious ceremony and the government should get out of entirely cut then he voted though for the spell, and he had a very clear reason why.

If this vote came out before the election, is there a different result for Todd Young?

>> You know Maybe not, he has read the Glacier and the local sentiment for some We have talked many times over the years on the show about marriage equality and equal treatment of people regardless of their sexual preferences and lifestyle choices.

This has gone from one end of the spectrum nationally and in Indiana, to Well not overnight but in the scheme of things >> Has been incredibly fast!

>> Yes, incredibly fast.

And any student of politics, or anyone who has a finger on the pulse of the electorate as you would hope any cover U.S. Senate would, you can see there is no gain in being on the other side of the issue.

>> Well I was just going to say Let me We just talked about Mike Braun potentially being very competitive primary as a governor and 25 four.

So this is about and I asked that primary?

>> Probably, but I think this is the way Mike Braun would have voted in regardless -- regardless whether or not he was running for governor.

I think this is where he stands on the issue and he has made this clear over the years.

So I think he would have voted for this if he was up for Senate next year, or in two years, so I was not surprised by his vote at all.

>> May help him in the primary, but it will not help in the general election.

>> Indiana still technically banned same-sex marriage, it is unenforceable the Supreme Court.

But if this ever changes, this may be a composition that Indiana may have to have at least a level, and if he runs for governor this is a question he may have to enter.

>> And Nicky but over the last segment, what concrete examples?

Give when he runs for senator?

-- concrete examples can Mike Braun give?

>> More than 80% of teachers believe that any abortion ban should have at least some exceptions, and more than half that portion should be legal in most cases -- abortion should be legal in most cases.

This is a result from the Indiana survey.

>> About 80% of those polled said that abortion should be legal in cases of rape or incest, and 62% they should be legal if the foetus is likely to be born with severe disability or health problems.

Indiana Republican lawmakers passed a law this year that allows abortion only in some cases of rape or incest, and there is a ban on abortion if - and abortion is only allowed if the foetus cannot survive outside the womb.

Given the poor numbers, this is it.

>> Could be a political mainline.

-- given the poor numbers, this is a hard sell.

>> Nearly half of those polled said they would not vote for a candidate whose abortion views were different from theirs.

>> Niki Kelly, do #this make it less likely that was -- that we will see major abortion legislation into outright?

>> No, because lawmakers had those numbers last summer.

They still no what those numbers are, and they still passed the abortion ban, so I do not think this impacts the debate at all and 21 three.

>> Last week or Two weeks ago, I don't remember.

Has a metre - has no meaning my time has no meaning, we talked to Republican legislators and asked, " hey, we see more entire abortion legislation coming ?"

Todd Young, the speaker of the house said that now, we would say on path.

McStay on Pat.

Mike Braun said the same thing, adding that there is a Supreme Court case they are hearing in January.

We can wait for that to see whether or not they say it is or not OK under Indiana's constitution.

So yes they did have phone numbers and did not really care.

-- Paul numbers.

But now that leadership wants to stand pat, is this the kind of thing where they can go to leadership and say that they want us to lay off a little longer?

>> Now, because just as leadership had this information No, before they have carved out restrictions, and there is a faction of the carcass that ignored that.

And there is a action of the carcass -- caucus if it is delivered with any play, whether it is delivered with honey or with a hammer over the head, that there will be bill after bill introduced.

>> The difference between and introduced a bill and a hearing >> This is not mean that it will not get attention now and cause headaches, because I'm sure that there will be news coverage, and the backers of these bills will make sure and see to it that, " you know why isn't this bill being heard? "

I can just write the script now.

And so there is a group that does not care.

>> So to that point, Rob and Tom Houston saying that we are going to stay pack or the 2002 session, can they get away with that?

>> I think so, just due to leadership and the way they have it, you guys are absolutely right when you say push comes to shove and with a built in front of you, Republicans will vote yes on this.

Can this impact the leadership and saying a Supreme Court case is absolutely valid for similar Braun to site, but this may impact the vigour of leadership saying that we have to do something, versus the upper and the numbers being high enough to where they know they have to do something.

>> With the numbers in the general assembly to 23, we had both against abortion for rape and incest in both chambers!

I calculate it, it was exactly 31% in both the House and Senate who voted in favour of those things.

The neighbours have not changed that much, so are we likely to get Certainly things will be filed -- the numbers >> I think it all depends on how quickly things happen with this rancour.

This court says that there is a remedy in Indiana that allows choice for certain amount of time.

They will lose their minds, OK?

Then they will try to draft a constitutional amendment to ban abortion.

The irony I think is that abortion played a part in the selection, but not as much, and this is because everything has been freeze-frame!

This is because everyone does not understand the process and they think that this is okay.

If that changes, then you can bar the doors!

>> The abortion ban, that Republicans has probably been the best that could have happened to them.

Because people have not been denied, we have not seen those headlines >> Is really made a difference at the Indiana and at the same wide level, but Democrats picked up a seat in the house, and here when publicans had a very good year in Indiana.

>> And effectively see with entire abortion activists too.

>> And they lost a seat in the Senate >> And that was due to gerrymandering.

>> Gerrymandering as I was the answer.

>> Holidays!

One way rate -- when we write 90% of all districts are gerrymandered, and we are really good at it.

>> Is what they're good at.

>> Exceptionalism.

>> To address the state housing crisis, and of the debate the sooner Maxton body network proposed a discussion to help renters.

>> Indiana is one of the five states that does not have an school row -- rent as growth.

For renters with serious issues that landlords are not fixing, Greater for Indianapolis, and organisation for those in Indiana facing homelessness.

She has worked with families >> Families are not able to pay due to getting sick from the mould in the home, and having to miss work to recover from the sickness.

>> The deductions were taken from the right.

Under escrow, the family could ask a judge to put the payments into 1/3 party account and it will be without the landlord until the repairs to the housing is made.

>> In a bipartisan recognition of just how bad it is being such a major issue in the upcoming election, is this the sort of thing that can get these proposals over the hump?

>> One would think so But And this is going to sound like the answer I just gave, and that answer we were talking about poor numbers and the sentiment of the population of Indiana.

- poll numbers, and now we are talking about actual significant threats to the lives and livelihoods of people in Indiana.

Among some individuals there is such an ideological version to seeming to confront landlords, that there is almost a presumption that Keep in mind Indiana and is one of five or six states that does not have this kind of escrow mechanism, that is no accident!

Keep in mind a few years ago, Indiana had legislation that would have given renters a greater levity And they took it away, pre- emption I guess is what I'm trying to say.

And even over the objections of their own party and their own governor.

This does not happen by accident!

You said the sentiment earlier about how the lineup has not changed a great deal, while with 31%, the lineup has not changed a great deal.

And with this getting more attention with many people unable to pay their bills, many people ideological are Saudi, but all that is not my job " >> It is really, " not my pocketbook !"

That is really what is going on here!

>> For the reporting on the tax that like on the housing tax forms, I don't think that was an accident -- housing task force.

They could theoretically fall under that overall thing.

But I agree with John.

I don't think that the political landscape has changed at all in the house or senate.

The crisis has worsened, and so it will be able harder for them to explain why they do not want to give renters any options to fight bedding -- to fight back against these >> Argument I have heard in the past are, " we have substandard rental laws" But they are not being enforced!

I mean there are lots of examples where people are living in substandard conditions, and landlords are doing nothing, and they don't seem to have any remedy!

To Nikki's point, is it getting harder to say no?

>> Oh yes, especially when there pocketbooks are concerned.

This is me of the nursing home tobacco if you your cigar.

-- nursing home tobacco a few years ago.

I understand this is an legislator will have conflicts, but when this turns into people living in multifold houses needing to be hospitalised due to it, and the landlord does not have to do anything, and they want to victimise them further because they cannot pay the rent.

I think this is an agreement that they need to look at searchlight.

-- a grievance that they need to look at seriously.

>> Will have trouble attracting businesses to the state to either grow or expand.

We will have more trouble attracting people that we need to come to this state to fill the jobs that we need filled.

Is that going to be enough to motivate something like this?

>> Yes, you can sign the big report right?

When you see big manufacturers chirping about how their employee cannot come to work because they do not have a place to live, that can absolutely move the needle.

And I like how we have moved from abortion, to the nursing homes.

They are not going to adopt a bill in this session, that is not going to happen, but can an outcry like that need to be explicitly discussed in the committee?

And even it being introduced in a hearing?

Like I think these baby steps could be good >> So in 10 years they could do something?

>> They did propose to extend that housing passports another year So >> At the end of the day, that task force, likely with a bunch of regulations, why don't they?

>> I was impressed with the task force so I am hoping for some good legislation >> Alright.

That is Indiana week -- Week In Review for this week.

Our panel is Democrat Ann DeLaney, Republican Mike OBrien, Jon Schwantes of Indiana Lawmakers and Niki Kelly of the Indian Capital Chronicle.

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