MUCH.

>> HEADING UP NORTH, THE STORY AND HISTORY OF OPPRESSION AND RESISTANCE OF NATIVE TRIBE ALONG LAKE SUPERIOR IS TOLD IN A NEW DOCUMENTARY CALLED BAD RIVER.

THE FILM TRAVELS CENTURIES BACK IN TIME CHRONICLING BROKEN TREATIES, LAND LOSS AND ATTEMPTS TO WIPE OUT THEIR IDENTITY.

BUT DEFIANCE AND RESILIENCY REMAIN THE COMMON THREAD TO OVERCOMING STRUGGLE.

THE BAD RIVER BAND IS FIGHTING THE EXISTENCE OF A 70-YEAR OLD PIPELINE FROM ENBRIDGE FROM CANADA.

LINE 5 IS ON LAND LEASED BY THE BAND IN A LEGAL AGREEMENT LONG EXPIRED.

MOREOVER, EXPERTS FEAR THE IMMINENT RUPTURE OF THE AGING INFRASTRUCTURE.

WANTS THE LAND FOR THEIR OWN PROFIT.

THE LAST AUTHORITY OF DENIAL FOR US.

THE TRIBE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOUR MANAGER.

>> IT'S OUTRAGEOUS THAT ENBRIDGE CONTINUED TO PUMP.

>> YOU HAVE A VITAL RESOURCE AND EFFECTIVELY YOU HAVE TRIBAL COMMUNITY SAYING WE WANT TO SHUT ALL OF THAT DOWN AND WE DON'T CARE ABOUT THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE DEPENDENT ON 540,000 BARRELS OF OIL THAT ARE GOING THROUGH THAT PIPELINE ON A DAILY BASIS.

>> MY LITTLE TRIBE IS STANDING UP AND SAYING, WE'RE PROTECTING THE WATER, NOT JUST FOR US, WE'RE PROTECTING WATER FOR THE PLANET.

>> FILMMAKER, MARY MAZZIO AND FORMER CHAIRMAN OF THE BAD RIVER BAND, MIKE WIGGINS, JOINS US NOW.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.

>> FIRST TO YOU, MIKE.

WHEN YOU FIRST SAW THIS FILM, WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION?

>> MY FIRST REACTION WAS ACTUALLY I HAD A VERY POWERFUL EMOTIONAL REACTION.

THE CHRONICLING OF THE BAD RIVER HISTORY, SOME OF IT NOT BEING THE EASIEST TO LISTEN TO AND WATCH, CULMINATING WITH THE EXPRESSION OF VALUES AS IT PERTAINS TO THE SEVENTH GENERATION, OUR CHILDREN THAT ARE STILL ON THE WAIT AND ALSO OUR LANDSCAPES AND OUR WATERS.

IT JUST WAS A VERY, VERY POWERFUL KIND OF REACTION FOR ME WAS BASICALLY TEARS.

>> WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSE TO ENBRIDGE SAYING THAT THE TRIBE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO DEPEND ON THE 540,000 GALLONS OF OIL GOING THROUGH THAT PIPELINE EVERY DAY?

>> WELL, THAT'S A CHARACTERIZATION FROM A CORPORATION, A PRIVATE CORPORATION BEING OPERATED FOR PROFIT AND OBVIOUSLY THE REST OF THAT STORY IS WE HAVE OUR SET OF VALUES AND OUR CONCERNS THAT DRINKING WATER, AQUIFERS, THE ABILITY FOR OUR PEOPLE TO STAY IN OUR FOREVER HOME NOW AND INTO THE FUTURE, AND SO I REALLY THINK IT'S PART OF THE LOW BROW BOOK OF TACTICS THAT ENBRIDGE HAS UNLEASHED ON OUR PEOPLE TRYING TO CHARACTERIZE US IN A NEGATIVE WAY WHEN REALLY THERE ARE OPTIONS, THERE ARE OTHER PIPELINES THAT ARE RUNNING TO THOSE PARTICULAR PEOPLE AND AREAS AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT ENBRIDGE SPOKESPERSON IS REALLY TALKING ABOUT HIS VERY OWN CORPORATE PROFIT.

>> MARY, WHY WAS THIS FILM IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO MAKE?

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING US, FREDERICA.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A STORY THAT HAS NOT HERETOFORE HAD VERY MUCH ATTENTION AND IT'S ABOUT THIS SMALL NATIVE COMMUNITY THAT, WITH MONUMENTAL EFFORT, IS LOOKING TO PROTECT A RESOURCE, AND AS FARM FORMER CHN HAS SAID, IT'S THE FRESH WATER OF AMERICA.

HERE ARE PEOPLE FIGHTING TOOTH AND NAIL TO PROTECT THE RESOURCE, TURNING DO DOWN $80 MILLION AT LAST CHECK TO SETTLE THE CASE AND THEY'RE DOING IT NOT FOR THEMSELVES, THEY'RE DOING IT FOR ALL OF US.

AND THAT IS A REMARKABLE ACT OF SELFLESSNESS, OF LONG-TERM THINKING, AND FOR ME AS A NONNATIVE, WHAT A ADJOURN THIS HAS BEEN AND IF ONLY I CAN START THINKING IN A MORE GROUP-ORIENTED WAY WHAT IS BETTER FOR COMMUNITY, WHAT IS BETTER FOR SOCIETY, HOW AMAZING WOULD THAT BE IF MORE OF US COULD DO THAT.

>> MIKE, BACK TO YOU.

A FEDERAL JUDGE GAVE ENBRIDGE THREE YEARS TO REMOVE THE PIPELINE.

THAT?

>> WELL, THE VERY -- THE ELEPHANT IN THE CORNER ON NOTIONS OF REMOVAL CENTER AROUND ENBRIDGE'S DESIRE TO REROUTE, STAYING WITHIN THE WATERSHED.

THE REROUTE IS GOING TO BE CATASTROPHIC.

MINNESOTA THE BREACHING OF AQUIFERS AND WATER TOXICITY.

THE REROUTE AS IT PERTAINS TO BAD RIVER IS IN A REALLY SENSITIVE AREA OF THE UPPER WATERSHED WHERE GROUNDWATER AND SURFACE WATER INTERACT.

AND THEN THERE'S THE TOPIC THAT'S NEVER BEEN DISCUSSED, WHICH IS THE DECOMMISSIONING AND SAFE REMOVAL OF THE PIPE AND ALL OF ITS BEGGED BEC BEDDING BECAUE BEDDING IS NOT VERY GOOD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT, BUT THE DECOMMISSIONING AND REMOVAL FROM THAT RESERVATION IS GOING TO BE A JOURNEY, TOO, AND THERE'S NOBODY TALKING ABOUT THAT IN TERMS OF IMPACTS AND COSTS.

>> I WANTED TO ASK YOU, YOU SPOKE TO THE REROUTE.

IN AN OPINION PIECE IN THE SENTINEL THIS WEEK, A BAD RIVER TRIBAL MEMBER SAID THAT SOME TRIBAL MEMBERS, HE SAID PERHAPS MANY, WANT THAT PIPELINE, THAT REROUTE OF THE PIPELINE BECAUSE IT REPRESENTS CONSTRUCTION JOBS FOR THEM.

WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT?

>> WELL, THAT PARTICULAR OPINION PIECE, I'VE SEEN THE TRADEMARK FINGERPRINTS OF ENBRIDGE'S PUBLIC RELATIONS ARM IN THAT LETTER, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WITH THAT TRIBAL MEMBER SIGNING THAT AND TAKING OWNERSHIP, I THOUGHT THE OVERALL LETTER BASICALLY CENTERED AROUND MONEY, IT'S CENTERED AROUND SELF-INTEREST IN TERMS OF -- HE TALKED ABOUT MONEY AND GOING DIRECTLY TO PEOPLE, AND IT'S HARD TO FAULT FOLKS FOR THEIR DESIRE IT OFF MONEY IN THEIR POCKET.

NATION-BUILDING ISSUE THAT HAS RIPPLE EFFECTS THAT GO DECADES AND PROBABLY CENTURIES INTO THE FUTURE, SO OUR GOVERNING BODY HAS CONTINUED TO TAKE A UNIFIED STAND AGAINST THESE TYPES OF CORPORATE ACTIVITIES IN THE WATERSHED AND PART OF THE ENBRIDGE STRATEGY HAS BEEN TO TRY TO USURP THE TRIBAL GOVERNMENT, TO GO DIRECTLY TO PEOPLE, TO PUSH FOR ESSENTIALLY THE TAKEOVER AND/OR THWARTING OF THE TRIBAL GOVERNANCE STANCE.

THAT LETTER WAS PER THE SCRIPT.

>> MARY, HOW HAS THIS FILM BEEN RECEIVED?

>> WELL, WE OPENED WITH AMC THEATRES ON MARCH 15th IN 12 CITIES.

WE NOT ONLY EXTENDED BUT EXPANDED TO 25 LOCATIONS, ACTUALLY, MOSTLY IN WISCONSIN, CHICAGO, MINNESOTA.

E CONTINUE TO PLAY TODAY IN MADISON AND MANY OTHER LOCATIONS.

IF YOUR VIEWERS GO TO BAD RIVER FILM.COM, THERE'S ON-LINE TICKETING.

THEATRES, PARTICULARLY THE ASHLAND THEATRE, WAS THAT THE FILM HAD OUTPERFORMED DUNE, GHOSTBUSTERS AND GODZILLA, WHICH IS JUST UNHEARD OF FOR A DOCUMENTARY FILM.

AND SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS EXTRAORDINARY REACTION TO THE PROJECT, A LOT OF LEARNING BY NONNATIVES THAT GO IN TO SEE THE MOVIE AND WERE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE ADJOURN AHEAD.

>> ALL RIGHT.

WELL, WE WANT TO THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US TO TALK ABOUT THIS IMPORTANT PROJECT.

MARY MAZZIO AND MIKE WIGGINS, MARY MAZZIO AND MIKE WIGGINS,